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| [2009/03/26 01:18:06] <gepetto> feed trac had 12 updates, showing the latest 3 | ||
| [2009/03/26 01:18:06] <gepetto> ::trac:: Indirection Reference edited by trac @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/IndirectionReference | ||
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| [2009/03/26 06:37:08] <JD> Volcane: was I talking to you about doing security updates? | ||
| [2009/03/26 06:37:55] <jenza> I'm going to start doing that shortly | ||
| [2009/03/26 06:38:00] <jenza> Will be fun | ||
| [2009/03/26 06:38:11] <JD> Volcane: seems it was | ||
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| [2009/03/26 06:39:02] <JD> Volcane: I did a slightly modified method. I tried execing a script for every package, but you have a problem with versioned dependancy | ||
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| [2009/03/26 06:40:10] <JD> package a-1.2 depends on b-1.2, which depends on a-1.2 | ||
| [2009/03/26 06:40:19] <JD> and neither gets installed | ||
| [2009/03/26 06:40:46] <JD> so I changed puppet to create a file for each package with the version number as the contents | ||
| [2009/03/26 06:41:15] <JD> and then notify a script to run which runs through all the files and builds a command to install them all in one go | ||
| [2009/03/26 06:41:45] <JD> has the advantage that you only run the install script when you've updated the security info | ||
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| [2009/03/26 06:48:26] <Peanut> Hi, a question on installing Puppet in Etch: Now that Etch has become 'oldstable', should I use pinning to 'stable' for apt-get? Or is it better to pin to 'lenny' ? | ||
| [2009/03/26 06:50:02] <Peanut> So, what should I put in /etc/apt/preferences now, and should the wiki be updated for that? | ||
| [2009/03/26 06:59:06] <tim|imac> i. hate. java. | ||
| [2009/03/26 06:59:15] <tim|imac> sorry, just had to vent some frustration. | ||
| [2009/03/26 07:00:51] <jenza> tim|imac: Concur | ||
| [2009/03/26 07:01:42] <JD> nowt wrong with java | ||
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| [2009/03/26 07:36:12] <nasrat> anyone seeing test failures in spec/unit/network/handler/fileserver.rb? | ||
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| [2009/03/26 07:37:54] <nasrat> looks like git show 33d3624c breaks how fileserver wraps fileset | ||
| [2009/03/26 07:40:34] <nasrat> ah patch is already on list | ||
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| [2009/03/26 07:41:58] <Volcane> JD: interesting, i hope you'll make a wiki recipe for that | ||
| [2009/03/26 07:42:41] <JD> Volcane: it's very apt-get specific | ||
| [2009/03/26 07:42:53] <Volcane> JD: still, might give others some hints | ||
| [2009/03/26 07:43:15] <JD> still, you'd just need to use a slightly different script | ||
| [2009/03/26 07:43:21] <JD> which you can pick | ||
| [2009/03/26 07:43:29] <JD> based on os | ||
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| [2009/03/26 07:44:22] <Volcane> yeah | ||
| [2009/03/26 07:50:57] <nasrat> issue #1834 | ||
| [2009/03/26 07:50:59] <gepetto> nasrat: #1834 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/1834 "Puppet - Bug #1834: Failing tests in master - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
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| [2009/03/26 08:40:16] <rgsteele||work> Is there an automated way yet to restore a filebucketed file's contents? | ||
| [2009/03/26 08:41:46] <rgsteele||work> E.g., if Puppet replaces it, but I want to restore the old copy? Are we basically forced to comb the logs to determine the hashed directory path from the hash string therein? | ||
| [2009/03/26 08:42:35] <rgsteele||work> I see there's a restore option to the filebucket command, but it seems to require combing the logs for the hash. | ||
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| [2009/03/26 08:55:58] <Volcane> i seem to remember there bieng some script on the wiki | ||
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| [2009/03/26 08:56:17] <Volcane> oh | ||
| [2009/03/26 08:56:29] <Volcane> filebucket --help | ||
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| [2009/03/26 09:08:39] <rgsteele||work> Volcane: For some reason, I don't seem to have the standalone filebucket client | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:08:45] <rgsteele||work> Was it there as of 0.24.6? | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:08:56] <rgsteele||work> As part of the puppet package? | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:09:23] <Volcane> might not be in 0.24.6, let me see | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:09:46] <Volcane> puppet-0.24.8/bin/filebucket puppet-0.24.6/bin/filebucket | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:09:50] <Volcane> thats from the tarballs | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:09:54] <Volcane> what OS do you use? | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:10:13] <rgsteele||work> Ubuntu. Looks like it didn't make it in to the official Puppet package until Jaunty. | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:10:17] <rgsteele||work> I'm only running Hardy. | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:10:26] <Volcane> http://pastie.org/427611 thats the helpfile :) | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:10:49] <Volcane> I'll act surprised that something in debian isnt working if that helps? :) | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:11:14] <rgsteele||work> Volcane: It's not that it doesn't work, it's just not in the version I'm running. | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:11:44] <rgsteele||work> I suppose I can upgrade to 0.24.8 - if I'm lucky, I can just upgrade with uupdate... | ||
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| [2009/03/26 09:12:07] <giles_> lo puppetiers | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:12:17] <Volcane> I'd consider a package to be "working" when it deploys all its supposed to deploy in a reasonable sound way :) | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:12:42] <giles_> I just ran puppetd with debug and I got this error | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:12:44] <giles_> err: Could not apply complete catalog: Invalid tag "autoapply,pam" | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:12:44] <Volcane> rgsteele||work: i went from 0.6 to 0.8 without hassles, didnt need to update my master to do the clients either which is nice | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:12:58] <Volcane> 0.24.6 to 0.24.8 i mean | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:14:16] <rgsteele||work> Volcane: Cool, yeah that's my goal. Did you upgrade the clients or server first? | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:14:56] <Volcane> rgsteele||work: clients first without hassle | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:15:26] <rgsteele||work> K. Bah, I don't have my old Puppet source - I accidentally deleted my build environment VM a few weeks ago. | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:15:45] <rgsteele||work> Bummer - guess that means the easy uupdate path is out of the question :-/ | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:15:49] <Volcane> heh | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:16:57] <rgsteele||work> Volcane: The RH/Cent folks have it easy, Puppet still ships with the spec file for you guys ;) | ||
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| [2009/03/26 09:17:42] <Volcane> rgsteele||work: contributed by the rh guys actually | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:17:45] <avleen> hey folks, i've run into a problem with my puppet install. for some reason, it's stopped overwriting files that exist on the target hosts :( It gives this error: | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:17:46] <avleen> HTTP-Error: 500 Internal Server Error | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:17:53] <avleen> does anyone know what that is? | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:18:20] <Volcane> avleen: does your master run in mongrel or webrick mode? | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:18:54] <avleen> um, i'm not sure :) i just start it with '/etc/init.d/puppetmaster start'. whatever the default is. | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:19:04] <avleen> (this is ubuntu) | ||
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| [2009/03/26 09:19:35] <giles_> hrm nasty | ||
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| [2009/03/26 09:19:43] <avleen> webrick | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:19:48] * avleen just found the http.log | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:19:49] <giles_> puppet hasn't been running fully | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:20:02] <giles_> but has been failing silently | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:20:19] <avleen> oh? | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:20:22] <giles_> because a module has a tag in it that doesn't exist | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:21:00] <giles_> or it might be the comma it's not happy with | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:21:20] <avleen> heh, i found my error: "not authorized to call puppetbucket.addfile" | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:21:25] <z00dax> is anyoneone running puppetmaster on linux/sparc ? | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:24:28] <avleen> Volcane: any idea where i can get a list of the puppet namespaces? | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:24:40] * avleen wnats to allow all hosts access to all namespaces | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:25:18] <z00dax> although I suspect my issues to be ruby specific | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:25:20] * z00dax digs | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:26:10] <avleen> z00dax: what's the problem? | ||
| [2009/03/26 09:27:06] <rgsteele||work> Hm, I wonder how unsafe it is to use the 0.24.6 conf/debian directory to build 0.24.8.... | ||
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| [2009/03/26 09:32:09] <rgsteele||work> Ah, nevermind. I'll just grab the old source, build, and use the new tarball to uupdate. | ||
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| [2009/03/26 10:07:14] <ch> hi! | ||
| [2009/03/26 10:07:30] <ch> is there a howto/guide for using the naginator types with exported ressources? | ||
| [2009/03/26 10:08:04] <Volcane> ch: the exported resource page | ||
| [2009/03/26 10:09:32] <ch> Volcane: thanks. so the service_description/namevar needs to be unique, and there is no way to have a uniformly called "PING" service for each host? | ||
| [2009/03/26 10:09:47] <ch> (so each check must be named PING_$fqdn or something?) | ||
| [2009/03/26 10:10:29] <Volcane> ch: its lame yes | ||
| [2009/03/26 10:10:41] <Volcane> unusable if u ask me | ||
| [2009/03/26 10:10:43] <ch> Volcane: is there "a better way"? | ||
| [2009/03/26 10:10:45] <Volcane> anyway, lunch calls | ||
| [2009/03/26 10:10:46] <ch> mkay. | ||
| [2009/03/26 10:10:48] <ch> thanks | ||
| [2009/03/26 10:13:25] <ashp> that compression thread is interesting | ||
| [2009/03/26 10:13:38] <ashp> i like the idea of a device that transparently compresses stuff | ||
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| [2009/03/26 11:06:38] <rgsteele||work> Volcane: Did you hit any issues after the upgrade? Just curious (building the .rpm's now, just got done building the .deb's) | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:07:11] <rgsteele||work> Any changes in behavior on the clients or server? Any new bugs? | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:08:55] <jenza> One thing I've nnoticed so far is that the spec file is forcing puppet user/group to 52 | ||
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| [2009/03/26 11:16:34] <SyTonnerre> Hm, is there some way to inherit multiple nodes? | ||
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| [2009/03/26 11:29:08] <mconigliaro> anyone know what md5lite is? | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:29:33] <mconigliaro> http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/1881 | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:29:56] <mconigliaro> looks like it was closed with no explanation | ||
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| [2009/03/26 11:32:06] <sigmonsays> heh | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:32:20] <sigmonsays> got me | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:32:26] <sigmonsays> i wondered that when i read it too | ||
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| [2009/03/26 11:35:29] <nasrat> mconigliaro: http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference#checksum | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:35:43] <nasrat> "There are a number of checksum types available including MD5 hashing (and an md5lite variation that only hashes the first 500 characters of the file." | ||
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| [2009/03/26 11:36:36] <mconigliaro> nasrat: thanks | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:37:21] <nasrat> the fix to the bug added that to the puppetdoc | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:37:53] <mconigliaro> wait, i see why i missed that | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:38:07] <mconigliaro> i was looking at this: http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference#file | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:38:31] <mconigliaro> no, wait | ||
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| [2009/03/26 11:39:37] <mconigliaro> ok, i have this same page open twice in my browser | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:39:58] <mconigliaro> somehow, the pages are different | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:40:09] <mconigliaro> im baffled | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:40:14] <nasrat> mconigliaro: what does the top say (it gives the generation time) | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:40:28] <mconigliaro> (last generated on Wed Dec 17 01:21:05 +0100 2008) | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:40:29] <nasrat> eg This page is autogenerated; any changes will get overwritten (last generated on Thu Mar 26 05:17:57 +0000 2009) | ||
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| [2009/03/26 11:40:36] <mconigliaro> ok, that makes sense | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:40:51] <mconigliaro> need to clear my cache! | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:40:52] <mconigliaro> thanks | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:41:03] <nasrat> if that doesn't fix it let us know | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:41:17] <nasrat> it may be there is a webserver with stale content | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:41:33] <mconigliaro> ok | ||
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| [2009/03/26 11:43:32] <sigmonsays> nice, that's a good idea | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:43:38] <sigmonsays> but very tricky | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:43:40] <sigmonsays> (md5lite) | ||
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| [2009/03/26 11:44:58] <nasrat> sigmonsays: not sure how much it's being used atm | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:45:03] <lludwig> OT question: hey all how do you get iptables enabled on ubunut/debian? I've never enabled it on that distro and seems bassackwards compared to RH/centos | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:45:25] <lludwig> any reference online I can look at? | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:45:34] <sigmonsays> !google debian etch iptables | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:45:35] <erm__> Results for debian etch iptables on Google: | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:45:35] <erm__> -- | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:45:35] <erm> Results for debian etch iptables on Google: | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:45:36] <erm> -- | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:45:48] <sigmonsays> sorta worked. didn't even know that existed | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:46:26] <lludwig> ah I see one on slicehost | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:46:26] <sz> http://tinyurl.com/dh95fr | ||
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| [2009/03/26 11:46:30] <sz> there we go! | ||
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| [2009/03/26 11:46:31] <lludwig> thanks | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:46:52] <lludwig> yea yea I previously didn't see any useful results/docs | ||
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| [2009/03/26 11:47:11] <sigmonsays> I always use dpkg -L and -l w/ grep to figger that junk out | ||
| [2009/03/26 11:47:31] * sigmonsays can't remember since it's been so long since i used debian :) | ||
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| [2009/03/26 12:15:33] <JD> anyone got an example puppet report? | ||
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| [2009/03/26 12:24:43] <JD> has freenode decided to settle down yet? | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:24:59] <JD> anyway, anyone got some example reports from puppet? | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:25:14] <JD> I'm not sure I see what you'd want to graph with puppet | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:25:25] <gwar9999> on RHEL, if a user is logged in via ssh and stops the sshd service, existing sshd connections remain alive however, new ssh connections can't be established. In this scenario, the puppet sshd Service which has ensure => running fails to start sshd. In looking at the debug log it reports that is found sshd at some PID. The PID is one of the current connections. That is, the PID test isn't useful. "/etc/init.d/sshd status" correctly states that sshd i | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:25:49] <jenza> It's probably looking for a sshd process | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:26:13] <JD> set hasstatus? | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:26:19] <gwar9999> yes, but that doesn't accurately describe the state of sshd. It's not running. | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:26:52] <gwar9999> JD: what's hasstatus? Is that part of the service attribute? | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:27:05] <JD> gwar9999: service {"sshd": hasstatus => true, ensure = running } | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:27:19] <rgsteele||work> Bah, uupdate didn't create my 0.24.8 deb properly - I'm missing some things, like the filebucket standalone. | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:27:32] <rgsteele||work> I didn't think I'd manually have to add that to debian/puppet.files | ||
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| [2009/03/26 12:27:39] <JD> gwar9999: http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference#service | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:28:20] <gwar9999> JD: perfect, thanks. That does the trick. | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:28:44] <JD> gwar9999: reading documentation often has that effect :P | ||
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| [2009/03/26 12:29:38] <JD> nope, freenode still aint happy | ||
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| [2009/03/26 12:29:45] <gwar9999> JD: ouch! I've been reading too much documentation, I just don't remember everything. Actually, I was just copying an example from the recipe section that didn't have a hasstatus. | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:30:36] <JD> gwar9999: :) sorry, just in a bitchy mood :) | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:31:02] <gwar9999> JD: no worries, I found it amusing. I'm not easily insulted. :) | ||
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| [2009/03/26 12:35:15] <gwar9999> JD: also, thanks for the link. I hadn't looked at that page yet and there are lots of useful service options I didn't even know existed (must recipes I've seen so far just use ensure and enabled). | ||
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| [2009/03/26 12:39:05] <JD> gwar9999: the TypeReference is the most useful page on the entire wiki | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:39:40] <JD> now, who's actually using reporting? | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:39:44] <gwar9999> JD: looks useful already and I haven't read it all yet. | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:43:06] <Volcane> JD: i use it | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:43:18] <JD> Volcane: what for? | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:43:39] <JD> the only thing I can currently see useful is tagmail with err | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:43:43] <Volcane> JD: http://www.devco.net/pubwiki/Puppet/PuppetView | ||
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| [2009/03/26 12:44:06] <Volcane> JD: though that code of mine probably needs some patching to work with > 0.24.4 | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:45:37] <JD> Volcane: what would be nice is if puppetd stored the report locally too | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:45:45] <JD> then I could use munin to graph stuff | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:46:35] <Volcane> yeah | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:46:44] <tim|imac> i think it does? | ||
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| [2009/03/26 12:47:29] <JD> although, I'm not sure how useful graphs of puppet is | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:47:29] <jenza> not really | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:47:30] <Volcane> do a feature request, it cant be too hard | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:47:30] <jenza> it stores rrdgraphs on the server if so required | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:47:30] <jenza> I use them, a little bit but not really | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:47:30] <tim|imac> ah yeah | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:47:30] <Volcane> JD: its useful, compile time, runtime etc | ||
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| [2009/03/26 12:47:56] <jenza> JD: you can see a preview of the graphs at http://www.devco.net/pubwiki/Puppet/PuppetView | ||
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| [2009/03/26 12:48:10] <JD> suppose it would be useful to see how the timing changes, but still, not too convinced | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:48:21] <JD> I think I'd rather just get the errors emailed to me | ||
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| [2009/03/26 12:48:33] <JD> which is probably more useful | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:48:40] <JD> time to go turn that on | ||
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| [2009/03/26 12:55:03] <rgsteele||work> Ah, fresh new Puppet packages. Still have the new car smell. | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:56:52] <jenza> Yeah I'm about to roll out .8 | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:57:10] <jenza> getting lazy and patching it so it pushes out my mongrel puppetmaster settings too now :x | ||
| [2009/03/26 12:57:20] * SyTonnerre wonders if his patches were pulled up | ||
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| [2009/03/26 13:08:38] <rgsteele||work> Hrm, I can't get filebucket to work :-/ | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:08:52] <rgsteele||work> I wonder if the puppetmaster has to be .8 as well | ||
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| [2009/03/26 13:09:20] <rgsteele||work> I wouldn't think so, but the proof is in the pudding. | ||
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| [2009/03/26 13:10:51] <rgsteele||work> http://pastie.org/427854 | ||
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| [2009/03/26 13:13:09] <rgsteele||work> Though it strikes me as strange that the log of the thing being filebucketed says "Filebucketed to with sum a8a9551bcd0f46b792a0ad276067e28e". Looks like the hostname is missing. | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:14:06] <SyTonnerre> Well, it's the default bucket | ||
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| [2009/03/26 13:14:49] <rgsteele||work> SyTonnerre: What, if there's a blank space there? | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:15:39] <rgsteele||work> Check the paste again: http://pastie.org/427854 | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:16:04] <rgsteele||work> I'm defining a bucket | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:16:41] <rgsteele||work> Perhaps the puppetconf class isn't getting evaluated before the other classes which are doing the bucketing or something... | ||
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| [2009/03/26 13:21:43] <rgsteele||work> Hm, how would one go about making sure one class is defined before ANY other classes? It would be a PITA to manually set each file type's 'require' attribute to 'Class["puppetconf"]'. And the reverse is true as well - it'd be insane to have the filebucket use a 'before' attribute to specify every single file in my manifests. | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:22:00] <rgsteele||work> There's got to be a better way to ensure that one class gets run before every other class. | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:22:33] <Volcane> rgsteele||work: cant do atm :( | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:22:54] <rgsteele||work> Oh, that's a pretty severe hamstring. | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:24:02] <rgsteele||work> How can I set a default filebucket for all file types then, if I can't be guaranteed that the class which defines the filebucket gets run before the files which need bucketing? | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:24:08] <rgsteele||work> Seems like a pretty serious design flaw. | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:24:22] <plathrop> rgsteele||work: Put it at the top level, outside of classes, in your site.pp | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:24:34] <plathrop> Works like a charm | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:25:11] <rgsteele||work> plathrop: Cool - I can still stick it inside a class, right? Doesn't have to be explicitly in the site.pp? | ||
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| [2009/03/26 13:25:20] <duritong> rgsteele||work: have a look @ how DavidS is doing it in his manifests: http://git.black.co.at/?p=manifests;a=summary | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:25:20] <rgsteele||work> E.g, include the class in site.pp | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:25:35] <duritong> rgsteele||work: yes | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:25:45] <plathrop> rgsteele||work: I don't think so. I think it has to be top level actually. But I haven't tried | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:26:05] <duritong> plathrop: it can, you just have to import not include it | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:26:17] <plathrop> cool | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:26:18] <duritong> so don't put in a class, rather in a simple file | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:26:55] <duritong> @ davids' you have in site.pp import common.pp and in common.pp you just have all the defaults | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:27:03] <duritong> I do it the same way for a lot of things | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:27:12] <rgsteele||work> I thought import just kinda made Puppet aware of all your classes? | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:27:42] <rgsteele||work> E.g., in my site.pp, I import all the directories which contain my classes. | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:27:49] <duritong> rgsteele||work: yes, but things don't hae to be in a class | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:28:47] <rgsteele||work> duritong: Granted, but I still don't see why you *must* import. An include should work too, right? | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:29:11] <rgsteele||work> Perhaps I don't understand the distinction between the two clearly enough. | ||
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| [2009/03/26 13:31:42] <duritong> rgsteele||work: no it won't work | ||
| [2009/03/26 13:31:54] <duritong> import is different than include | ||
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| [2009/03/26 13:36:22] <rgsteele||work> Ah, okay, thanks for the tip. | ||
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| [2009/03/26 15:42:56] <jc3`> I'm a little confused about the --nonodes argument... | ||
| [2009/03/26 15:43:29] <jc3`> from the doc, "If you are trying to write a config that works for both puppet and puppetd then you should create the config without nodes and use the --nonodes argument." | ||
| [2009/03/26 15:44:30] <jc3`> My config has no nodes -- just updates dhclient.conf and restarts network -- and it works for both puppet and puppetd | ||
| [2009/03/26 15:44:41] <jc3`> so what does --nonodes buy me? | ||
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| [2009/03/26 16:12:54] * sigmonsays is almost tempted to make a dsl for a dsl :) | ||
| [2009/03/26 16:13:12] <sigmonsays> i take notes in psudeo manisfest | ||
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| [2009/03/26 16:58:53] <joe-mac> hey calling all sys admins, you know how you can g+s a directory and all files underneat will have group opwnership the same as the parent dir, is that possible with the user who owns the parent dir? either through acl's or something? | ||
| [2009/03/26 16:59:05] <joe-mac> cause i am about to have to do a convoluted process for this dev to push his webapp out | ||
| [2009/03/26 16:59:33] <joe-mac> and it would just be a lot easier if i could add a magic acl to do it for me | ||
| [2009/03/26 16:59:47] <ch> you can't do that on linux with standard unix permission model, don't know about acl stuff though. | ||
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| [2009/03/26 17:03:34] <Volcane> joe-mac: you mean you want new files to inherit the ownership and perms of the parent? | ||
| [2009/03/26 17:04:27] <joe-mac> yes | ||
| [2009/03/26 17:04:33] <joe-mac> ownership specifically | ||
| [2009/03/26 17:04:36] <Volcane> thats what the +s is for | ||
| [2009/03/26 17:04:39] <joe-mac> i already know how to inherit masks and wahtnot | ||
| [2009/03/26 17:04:43] <Volcane> ownership? | ||
| [2009/03/26 17:04:45] <Volcane> probably harder | ||
| [2009/03/26 17:04:47] <joe-mac> +s on the first octal doesn't do it | ||
| [2009/03/26 17:04:53] <joe-mac> yea | ||
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| [2009/03/26 17:05:01] <Volcane> yeah +s will do modes, not ownership | ||
| [2009/03/26 17:05:09] <Volcane> on freebsd +s ownership too if i remember | ||
| [2009/03/26 17:05:12] <Volcane> alas, not linux | ||
| [2009/03/26 17:05:25] <joe-mac> yea, i figured facls would make up for that shortcoming, but for some odd reason they don't | ||
| [2009/03/26 17:05:41] <joe-mac> sio ui am going to have to write a one liner and give this guy sudo access to run the one liner, only thing i can think of | ||
| [2009/03/26 17:05:54] <Volcane> heh | ||
| [2009/03/26 17:06:09] <Volcane> why cant he create files as the user? | ||
| [2009/03/26 17:06:21] <joe-mac> cause the data should be owned by www-data | ||
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| [2009/03/26 17:06:27] <Volcane> ah | ||
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| [2009/03/26 18:09:07] <sigmonsays> what does puppet do in /tmp ? | ||
| [2009/03/26 18:09:11] <sigmonsays> I just saw a flood of stuff go by | ||
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| [2009/03/26 18:10:36] <Hmz> how does one go about doing something like AllowGroups/DenyGroups in sshd_config. Where sometimes you use one and sometimes you use the other, in 0.24.4? | ||
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| [2009/03/26 18:25:13] <jsm> i'm trying to write a function that use's the server's hostname as a variable in the template | ||
| [2009/03/26 18:25:19] <jsm> i got the part of creating the template | ||
| [2009/03/26 18:25:37] <jsm> just struggling with how i tell the function to use the hostname of the system as the variable | ||
| [2009/03/26 18:25:51] <jsm> i think it has something to do with facter | ||
| [2009/03/26 18:26:45] <Hmz> you ned to pass the function the hostname from your invocation | ||
| [2009/03/26 18:27:03] <Hmz> erm nm | ||
| [2009/03/26 18:27:10] <Hmz> thats what i would do at least :p | ||
| [2009/03/26 18:28:12] <jsm> those no way for the function to automatically pick up the hostname via facter? | ||
| [2009/03/26 18:28:20] <jsm> there's | ||
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| [2009/03/26 18:30:55] <Hmz> i think there is | ||
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| [2009/03/26 18:33:53] <jsm> "In addition to user-defined variables, the facts generated by Facter are also available as variables. To use a fact as a variable prefix the name of the fact with $. For example, the value of the operatingsystem and puppetversion facts would be available as the variables $operatingsystem and $puppetversion." | ||
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| [2009/03/26 18:39:54] <Volcane> $fqdn is set automagically | ||
| [2009/03/26 18:40:39] <Volcane> as is $hostname and all other facts | ||
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| [2009/03/26 18:57:25] <mfoster> using rpm package provider is there a way to pass --force, --nodeps or other args? | ||
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| [2009/03/26 19:38:22] <chu> holla | ||
| [2009/03/26 19:38:34] <chu> nowait kolla .. nm | ||
| [2009/03/26 19:40:44] <kolla> :) | ||
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| [2009/03/26 19:51:21] <lak> my baby's home from the hospital, where i had 'net access but not irc, so now i can rejoin the irc hordes | ||
| [2009/03/26 19:51:22] <lak> *whew* | ||
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| [2009/03/26 19:54:44] <gepetto> feed trac had 6 updates, showing the latest 3 | ||
| [2009/03/26 19:54:44] <gepetto> ::trac:: Indirection Reference edited by trac @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/IndirectionReference | ||
| [2009/03/26 19:54:44] <gepetto> ::trac:: Report Reference edited by trac @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ReportReference | ||
| [2009/03/26 19:54:44] <gepetto> ::trac:: Type Reference edited by trac @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference | ||
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| [2009/03/26 20:19:00] <cfreeze_> Has anyone updated the shorewall recipe from Aqueos for version 4.x? | ||
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| [2009/03/26 20:46:31] <gepetto> ::trac:: Puppet Continuous Integration edited by jamtur01 @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetContinuousIntegration (by james@lovedthanlost.net) | ||
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| [2009/03/26 23:01:03] <maxagaz> hi | ||
| [2009/03/26 23:04:09] <maxagaz> i can't generate a puppet doc, because of an error message: Could not generate documentation: Syntax error at ','; expected '}' at /etc/puppet/modules/dell/manifests/debian.pp:26, my file is here: http://pastebin.com/d4d58f2a4 | ||
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| [2009/03/26 23:05:44] <maxagaz> can't figure out where does the error come from | ||
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