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| [2009/12/08 00:11:19] <cwebber> if the mysql database that the storedconfigs is pointed at goes away for 30 mins or so... what bad things may happen? | ||
| [2009/12/08 00:11:46] <Djelibeybi> cwebber: puppet will stop delivering catalogs | ||
| [2009/12/08 00:11:59] <cwebber> ok | ||
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| [2009/12/08 00:34:01] <nevyn> this may be acceptable. | ||
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| [2009/12/08 01:15:42] <cwebber> anyone having issues getting to the reductive labs site | ||
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| [2009/12/08 02:30:03] <LinuxCode> hmmmm | ||
| [2009/12/08 02:31:04] <LinuxCode> I want to create some keys, if they are lets say 60 days old, and they have to be transferred to a few machines | ||
| [2009/12/08 02:31:41] <LinuxCode> not all machines should get the same keys, was pondering to have the puppet master, connect to itself and make them and then dump them into a .pp | ||
| [2009/12/08 02:31:55] <LinuxCode> which then would get imported by site, for use by nodes | ||
| [2009/12/08 02:32:06] <LinuxCode> anyone got a better idea for a solution > | ||
| [2009/12/08 02:32:07] <LinuxCode> ? | ||
| [2009/12/08 02:32:54] <suchu> hey | ||
| [2009/12/08 02:33:08] <suchu> is Bug #2803 listed on the reductivelabs site fixed? | ||
| [2009/12/08 02:33:09] <gepetto> suchu: #2803 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/2803 "Puppet - Bug #2803: Issue with permissions with 0.25.1 -> 0.25.1 setup - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
| [2009/12/08 02:34:17] <LinuxCode> problem i see with one master making them, is that if one tries to upscale puppet infrastructure into multiple masters, not all masters will know the keys | ||
| [2009/12/08 02:34:19] <LinuxCode> ;-| | ||
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| [2009/12/08 02:34:44] <Avlaiz> hey | ||
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| [2009/12/08 02:36:52] <Avlaiz> I m getting this error on my puppet client http://fr.pastebin.ca/1706581 | ||
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| [2009/12/08 03:33:22] <suchu> f3ew: any clue ? | ||
| [2009/12/08 03:36:25] <LinuxCode> suchu, why dont you check the changelog in the source ? | ||
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| [2009/12/08 04:51:12] <danielbln> "Failed to retrieve current state of resource: SSL_connect SYSCALL returned=5 errno=0 state=SSLv2/v3 read server hello" | ||
| [2009/12/08 04:51:20] <danielbln> I get this error from different clients from time to time | ||
| [2009/12/08 04:51:34] <danielbln> could this be a sign that the server is at capacity? | ||
| [2009/12/08 04:51:58] <danielbln> I can't really reproduce the error, but it spams tagmails | ||
| [2009/12/08 04:58:04] <ohadlevy> danielbln: yeah that could be if you are using webrick | ||
| [2009/12/08 05:01:51] <danielbln> I guess I'll have to look into mongrel then | ||
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| [2009/12/08 05:14:00] <GioGio> hi everyone | ||
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| [2009/12/08 05:15:13] <GioGio> how can i check the configuration with puppet before apply it to my node ? | ||
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| [2009/12/08 05:21:33] <danielbln> I usually just run puppetdoc which parses all manifests and fails when syntax errors are present | ||
| [2009/12/08 05:23:11] <GioGio> danielbln: i just have to type puppetdoc on my prompt ? | ||
| [2009/12/08 05:25:04] <masterzen> GioGio: you can puppet --parseonly. This validates the syntax. Or you can use "manitest" | ||
| [2009/12/08 05:25:42] <masterzen> GioGio: manitest == http://github.com/ohadlevy/manitest/tree/ | ||
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| [2009/12/08 05:28:25] <[newbie]> "manitest"? <groan> | ||
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| [2009/12/08 05:29:06] <nico> masterzen: \o_ | ||
| [2009/12/08 05:29:24] <masterzen> hey nico! | ||
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| [2009/12/08 05:31:43] <GioGio> thanks, i will try that | ||
| [2009/12/08 05:34:54] <gepetto> ::trac:: Function Reference edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/FunctionReference?version=26 | ||
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| [2009/12/08 06:03:20] <TheAvatar> Hello, I need an onlyif/unless on a 'file', but I get the following error: "Invalid parameter 'onlyif' for type 'File'". Any ideas? Im using 0.24.8 | ||
| [2009/12/08 06:07:35] <jamesturnbull> TheAvatar: wiki:TypeReference | ||
| [2009/12/08 06:07:42] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: TheAvatar: wiki:TypeReference is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference | ||
| [2009/12/08 06:08:09] <jamesturnbull> TheAvatar: onlyif and unless are attributes of the exec type not the file type | ||
| [2009/12/08 06:08:40] <kjetilho> jamesturnbull: onlyif as metaparam is in the pipeline for 0.25.2, isn't it? | ||
| [2009/12/08 06:08:53] <jamesturnbull> kjetilho: Rowlf probably | ||
| [2009/12/08 06:08:56] <kjetilho> ok | ||
| [2009/12/08 06:09:03] <jamesturnbull> kjetilho: .2 is a maintenance release | ||
| [2009/12/08 06:09:24] <TheAvatar> I figured it wasn't possible - but I was hoping for an idea of what direction to go to | ||
| [2009/12/08 06:09:45] <TheAvatar> I just need to make sure a "File" doesnt execute, if a given file is present | ||
| [2009/12/08 06:09:57] <kjetilho> TheAvatar: use an exec of "true" which does notify ;-p | ||
| [2009/12/08 06:10:59] <TheAvatar> so, I make an exec, that checks the file, if its not there, it notifies 'File', which will do whatever I put in 'File'? | ||
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| [2009/12/08 06:11:37] <kjetilho> if it's not there, it runs the command, and notifies File afterwards | ||
| [2009/12/08 06:11:58] <kjetilho> you need notifyonly in the File | ||
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| [2009/12/08 06:13:21] <TheAvatar> notifyonly => true you refer to, right? | ||
| [2009/12/08 06:13:26] <TheAvatar> was just about to ask :P | ||
| [2009/12/08 06:14:36] <TheAvatar> Invalid parameter 'notifyonly' for type 'File' - great | ||
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| [2009/12/08 06:22:19] <gepetto> ::trac:: Function Reference edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/FunctionReference?version=27 | ||
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| [2009/12/08 06:30:30] <kjetilho> TheAvatar: ok, sorry, I wasn't sure about notifyonly being a metaparam, clearly it isn't either | ||
| [2009/12/08 06:30:45] <kjetilho> TheAvatar: sounds like you should make a bootstrap environment to do initial configuration | ||
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| [2009/12/08 06:45:04] <TheAvatar> hm yer - but the system is already up running | ||
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| [2009/12/08 06:45:48] <TheAvatar> now I tried some exec, and then an if Exec[...] == true around my File[...] - but then the Exec complains about the return value, which I use to check whether it should evaluate the if to true or false | ||
| [2009/12/08 06:46:26] <TheAvatar> then I tried using returns => [0, 1], but that's a 0.25.0 feature as it seems (returns using an array) | ||
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| [2009/12/08 07:10:29] <jamesturnbull> newpupp: no idea - what's the error you're getting? | ||
| [2009/12/08 07:10:29] <jamesturnbull> newpupp: what ruby version? | ||
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| [2009/12/08 07:10:29] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac1: you're a CentOS user right? | ||
| [2009/12/08 07:11:23] <newpupp> just "random" complaints about parsing things like: "Invalid parameter :owner at /u02/puppet/modules/puppet/manifests/service.pp:22" ... not always the same and the module works fine on other non Centos 4.5 (solaris / redhat / centos 4.4 and 5) - I have "ruby 1.8.1 (2003-12-25) [i386-linux-gnu]" | ||
| [2009/12/08 07:11:43] <LinuxCode> jamesturnbull, we have got 0.25.x in epel-testing, if you want to know if 0.25 is available | ||
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| [2009/12/08 07:13:46] <newpupp> ok .. I'll look at our YUM repo and see if I can't push for something else ... what rub is recommended ? | ||
| [2009/12/08 07:13:46] <newpupp> note also ... I use the same ruby on other machines and it's fine ... | ||
| [2009/12/08 07:13:46] <newpupp> so must be a complex interaction between ruby 1.8.1 and puppet 0.25.0 on Centos 4.5 only | ||
| [2009/12/08 07:13:46] <jamesturnbull> newpupp: I'd aim for 1.8.5+ | ||
| [2009/12/08 07:13:52] <newpupp> hmm .. might well be an aim for :-) ... but I'll do what I can | ||
| [2009/12/08 07:14:08] <jamesturnbull> newpupp: but someone here who uses CentOS might know what's a good upgrade path | ||
| [2009/12/08 07:14:30] <jamesturnbull> LinuxCode: I know it's available - in fact isn't 0.25.1 in EPEL now? | ||
| [2009/12/08 07:14:47] <LinuxCode> in epel-testing yeh | ||
| [2009/12/08 07:14:54] <LinuxCode> let me double check | ||
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| [2009/12/08 07:18:15] <jamesturnbull> newpupp: de nada | ||
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| [2009/12/08 07:57:42] <Whoop> Does anyone have any clues to why my 0.25.1 client daemons keep dieing randomly? Nothing is logged except the last catalog run, no signs to why it died - nothing | ||
| [2009/12/08 07:57:53] <Whoop> its getting very annoying having to loop through 10's of machines daily to start it again | ||
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| [2009/12/08 08:08:21] <duritong> Whoop: there is a bug report about that | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:08:28] <duritong> Whoop: and it have (nearly) been fixed | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:08:39] <Whoop> Do you know which one? | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:09:16] <duritong> Whoop: #2661 | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:09:17] <gepetto> duritong: Whoop: #2661 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/2661 "Puppet - Bug #2661: puppetd exits if the master is unreachable. - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:10:06] <Whoop> Thanks duritong | ||
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| [2009/12/08 08:34:03] <ohadlevy> Whoop: you can use a cron to check if puppet is running :) | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:34:10] <ohadlevy> or better, just use puppet from cron | ||
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| [2009/12/08 08:34:31] <fzzzt> Morning | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:34:45] <fzzzt> Is it considered success if an exec doesn't need to run due to an unless statement? | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:35:31] <SyTonnerre> That means it was successful but doesn't trigger any dependencies afaik | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:35:33] <fzzzt> e.g. if i have "create user": unless => "user exists" and "set password": unless => "password correct", require => "create user", if it later runs and the user already exists, would "set password" run? | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:37:33] <fzzzt> hmm | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:39:11] <eventi> fzzzt: yes | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:41:14] <fzzzt> great | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:41:17] <fzzzt> thanks | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:41:21] <ohadlevy> jb:ping | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:42:12] <Whoop> I could do ohadlevy - but that kinda avoids the point of having a daemon :P | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:42:27] <Whoop> *voids the point | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:42:46] <ohadlevy> Whoop: i guess you like the memory sucking daemons ;) | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:43:04] <Whoop> 80mb isn't really memory sucking | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:43:08] <Whoop> I can live wit that, it saves me time | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:43:13] <SyTonnerre> fzzzt, a notify relation however would not be triggered | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:43:26] <ohadlevy> Whoop: in my setup, it would sit around 200-300mb | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:43:39] <Whoop> yuck | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:43:54] <ohadlevy> and just for puppetrun, it didnt make a lot of sense | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:44:40] <Whoop> bah, i'll switch to cron if that ever happens | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:44:54] <Whoop> but until then, its not really logical adding an extra strep into the process | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:45:51] <ohadlevy> Whoop: how do you detect if its not running? | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:45:54] <duritong> recently a reason have been found for the over-memory consumption | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:46:00] <Whoop> nagios | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:46:02] <ohadlevy> duritong: yeah I know | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:46:07] <duritong> it should be fixed some day | ||
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| [2009/12/08 08:46:17] <Whoop> Monitor the puppet state file age | ||
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| [2009/12/08 08:52:35] <fzzzt> testing now... | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:53:03] <fzzzt> I think I have a pretty solid MySQL module finally | ||
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| [2009/12/08 08:55:04] <danielbln> is there a way to change the tagmail mail format, by using a template of some sort for example? | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:58:09] <danielbln> the man just told me to pretty up the puppet messages | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:59:15] <ohadlevy> danielbln: what would like to have instead? | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:59:22] <Whoop> pretty up? lol | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:59:35] <Whoop> Just run it through a script to add some random colours in | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:59:42] <Whoop> make each letter a different colour or something | ||
| [2009/12/08 08:59:48] <danielbln> well, line breaks would be nice | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:00:07] <danielbln> maybe some sort of custom header | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:00:11] <ohadlevy> danielbln: why dont you use one of the web interfaces for puppet? | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:00:32] <ohadlevy> danielbln: you can change the code | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:00:38] <ohadlevy> I guess it wont be too much of work | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:00:52] <danielbln> sure, I just thought there might be something similar in there already | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:00:56] <danielbln> I'll get to a patch then | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:01:00] <arj> web interface? | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:01:07] <danielbln> foreman for example | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:01:17] <danielbln> @arj | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:01:40] <ohadlevy> danielbln: the next version of foreman will support assigning users to hosts, and then the mail will be sent to the relevant users | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:01:49] <ohadlevy> probably once a day or some sort of an interval | ||
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| [2009/12/08 09:18:06] <ashp> oh that reminds me to go see if the foreman puppet module has updated | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:18:13] <ashp> to use lib instead of whatever it was using so puppet stops bitching at me :) | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:19:00] <ashp> it hasn't! ohadlevy, you need to update your module at some point :) | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:19:31] <ohadlevy> well, when people wont be using 0: | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:19:35] <ohadlevy> 24 | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:20:19] <ohadlevy> :) | ||
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| [2009/12/08 09:21:48] <ashp> can you use lib/ at all on 0.24? | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:22:12] <ashp> man, moving to 0.25 was hard for me, turns out I had some nagios stuff that worked because of a bug in 0.24 | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:22:19] <ashp> when i moved to .25 it was fixed and everything broke | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:22:31] <ashp> also a couple of my defines had the same variable twice for some reason, and it broke on those | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:22:49] <ohadlevy> lib wont work on .24 | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:22:50] <ashp> it's amazing how many of my manifests are garbage :D | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:22:59] <fzzzt> Hmmm is it possible to access a given object's properties within a definition? e.g. define asd($blah) ... $blah->hostname, if $blah is Computer["foo"] with a hostname parameter? | ||
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| [2009/12/08 09:23:33] <kjetilho> fzzzt: no | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:23:43] <komitee> fzzzt oo puppet manifests ftw. | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:23:57] <fzzzt> ok | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:24:12] <kjetilho> *possibly* a Rowlf feature | ||
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| [2009/12/08 09:33:44] <ashp> err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: Mysql::Error: MySQL server has gone away: SELECT * FROM `hosts` WHERE (`hosts`.`name` = 'hlslinutil1.law.harvard.edu') LIMIT 1 | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:34:00] <ashp> Hmm, anyone had issues with puppetmaster losing its mind and not reconnecting to mysql? | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:36:12] <ohadlevy> rails 2.1? | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:36:22] @ Quit: Mick27: "This computer has gone to sleep" | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:46:05] <ashp> yes, i think so | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:46:14] <ashp> rubygem-rails-2.1.1-2.el5 | ||
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| [2009/12/08 09:48:05] <ohadlevy> there is a fix in 0.25.2 or upgrade rails | ||
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| [2009/12/08 09:53:20] <ashp> ohadlevy: I'll wait for .2, I don't want to start drifting away and adding yet more custom packages | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:53:31] <ashp> dear redhat, for the love of god release RHEL 6 so we can get out of the dark ages, love ashp | ||
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| [2009/12/08 09:57:03] <fzzzt> ok added a ticket for the memory/cpu issue we ran into | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:59:08] <joe-mac> is my email on the list not clear? it seems like people think i am talking about preseeding d-i, i am talking about a .seed for the puppet/puppetmaster package itself | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:59:26] <joe-mac> eliminate the late-command hackery to set the proper vars | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:59:39] <joe-mac> beyond that, you can use it as a responsefile when installing a new version | ||
| [2009/12/08 09:59:51] <joe-mac> or retro-fitting (puppetizing) old boxes | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:00:50] <zahna> templates are evaluated on the server, right? | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:01:11] <fsweetser> zahna: yes | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:01:22] <zahna> like, i could include a file that resides in the same directory as the template itself, right? | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:01:25] <zahna> ok | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:01:47] <KarlHungus> anyone doing clever stuff with iptables rules? like having services store their required rules, then collecting them in an iptables modules? | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:01:57] <KarlHungus> the idea of that makes me a little nervous | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:02:01] <fzzzt> yeah | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:02:14] <fzzzt> well, modules have their rules | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:02:28] <fzzzt> an iptables type sorts them out and applies them | ||
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| [2009/12/08 10:02:46] <fzzzt> only in testing right now but it works | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:02:58] <fzzzt> clever though, not really :) | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:03:00] <KarlHungus> fzzzt: right, so common header for all that set policies. as well as a common footer, then collect the per module rules and concat the file | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:03:23] <fzzzt> well, i have "common" RHEL rules in my rhel class, i dont have a header or footer | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:03:23] <KarlHungus> how do you handle sorting the per-module rules out? | ||
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| [2009/12/08 10:03:37] <fsweetser> KarlHungus: I'm keeping the iptables rules in a single class, but otherwise yeah | ||
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| [2009/12/08 10:03:51] <KarlHungus> fzzzt: i take it you run your own iptables.sh script and not sysconfig/iptables? | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:04:16] <fzzzt> iirc it uses the commands, and runs iptables save to save them | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:04:24] <KarlHungus> fzzzt: cool | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:04:24] <fzzzt> though i haven't tested that part yet | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:04:31] <fzzzt> i knwo it runs service iptables save | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:04:41] <KarlHungus> fsweetser: yeah, i think that will probably be my first iteration of this module too | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:04:54] <fzzzt> I use this one: http://github.com/camptocamp/puppet-iptables | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:04:54] <KarlHungus> but i'd love to have it handle rules based on the modules a node is including | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:05:11] <fsweetser> oh, I do that as well | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:05:35] <fsweetser> I have the main iptables module, which has a couple of useful defines, and holds all of the iptables fragments | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:06:00] <fsweetser> then, in all of the various other classes (http, ssh, etc) I pull in the relevant rules | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:07:06] <fsweetser> fzzzt: I haven't been able to use any of those simple native types, as I have a few machines with some funky iptables requirements that they can't model | ||
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| [2009/12/08 10:11:39] <masterzen> duritong: regarding mem consumption, Luke is working on it :-) | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:11:48] <ashp> i am so glad we use a real firewall | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:11:49] <duritong> masterzen: jep | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:11:57] <ashp> as the idea of dealing with iptables makes me grimace | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:12:35] <masterzen> ashp: using an iptables "wrapper" like firehol makes the thing really easy and nice | ||
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| [2009/12/08 10:13:09] <ashp> I'll have to check that out, never heard of it :) | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:13:19] <fzzzt> real firewall? | ||
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| [2009/12/08 10:14:22] <KarlHungus> iptables is pretty simple =) | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:14:24] <ffrank> hi. is there a "right" way to restore files from the clientbucket? | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:14:36] <KarlHungus> pf is even nicer =) | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:14:37] <duritong> shorewall! | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:14:38] <fzzzt> I prefer pf but iptables is workable | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:14:40] <fzzzt> ;) | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:14:42] <silfreed> trying to set up the ssh_authorized_key type on puppet 0.24.8; the authorizied_keys file keeps getting recreated | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:14:48] <masterzen> ffrank: use filebucket (the app) | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:14:54] <fsweetser> KarlHungus: too simple, even | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:15:01] <masterzen> duritong: firehol | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:15:04] <KarlHungus> however, i'd love to have a dedicated hardware firewall | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:15:12] <ffrank> masterzen: ah, that's it - thanks | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:15:16] * fsweetser would be happy if it supported an iptables.d/ config directory natively.... | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:15:35] * masterzen would love to have an hardware firewall | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:15:36] <KarlHungus> fsweetser: meh, it does what i need. i'm not trying to run a gigabit of udp traffic through tc and a bunch of iptables rules though | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:16:08] <fsweetser> oh, I'm not commenting on its operational performance - merely management overhead | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:16:40] <KarlHungus> i have a handful of old load balancer appliances. i could probably drop bsd onto them and stick them in between my core switches and our uplink | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:16:57] <fsweetser> at least on RH boxes, the single flat file setup is a pain to manage in puppet without doing your own config fragment tricks | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:17:22] <KarlHungus> fsweetser: yeah, but doesnt the latest iptables support includes from iptables.d, or similar? | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:17:24] <fzzzt> We use both a network firewall and host firewalls | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:17:44] <silfreed> I've tried setting up ssh_authorized_key types as virtual resources and real resources, both do the same thing | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:17:59] <fsweetser> KarlHungus: not that I've noticed, though I haven't looked lately | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:18:07] <KarlHungus> fsweetser: not the version in the repos | ||
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| [2009/12/08 10:19:42] <beelzebob> silfreed: fwiw, that used to happen to me all the time, but sees to have stopped since 0.25 | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:19:49] <beelzebob> s/sees/seems/ | ||
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| [2009/12/08 10:21:47] <ffrank> masterzen: filebucket --local claims not to be able to find file w/ the given checksum, yet it's positively present (already located it in /var/lib/puppet/...) | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:22:33] <masterzen> ffrank: strange | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:22:39] @ Quit: bug: | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:22:42] <masterzen> ffrank: what version are you using? | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:22:58] <ffrank> 0.24.5 >< | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:24:02] <ffrank> ah - strace says... :) | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:24:06] <ffrank> wrong path | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:24:37] <gpled> has anyone tried to set wakeonlan settings with puppet? | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:25:57] <ffrank> tries /var/lib/puppet/bucket/ instead of /var/lib/puppet/clientbucket/ | ||
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| [2009/12/08 10:33:21] <silfreed> looking at my .ssh/authorized_keys file, it looks like the header it generates includes the time it was created, so it ends up re-writing the file every time b/c the md5 keeps changing | ||
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| [2009/12/08 10:33:41] <silfreed> is there a way to have the master cache that file so it only re-generates it when the config changes? | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:34:28] <kjetilho> silfreed: what? are you using the ssh_authorized_keys type? | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:34:41] <silfreed> kjetilho: yes | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:35:07] <silfreed> puppet keeps re-creating the file (0.24.8) | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:35:09] <kjetilho> works for me... but it is very picky about extra whitespace in the values | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:35:36] <kjetilho> (fixed in 0.25.x I believe) | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:35:44] <kjetilho> but I'm running 0.24.8 too | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:37:23] <[0x100]> I want to make a decision in puppet based on a subnet, but I don't see an easy way to do that... | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:37:35] <[0x100]> something like a case statement, but with subnet compare | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:37:46] <[0x100]> 192/24: {something} | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:37:49] <kjetilho> [0x100]: do it in a template... | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:38:22] <[0x100]> or even 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0: {something} | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:38:26] <fzzzt> i use regexes | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:38:28] <kjetilho> in 0.25.x you can use a regular expression for it | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:38:42] <ffrank> silfreed: http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/2124 | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:38:48] <kjetilho> but it's grotty if it's not /24 or /16 | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:39:01] <[0x100]> kjetilho: yeah, i was just going to say that | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:39:09] <silfreed> ffrank: nice, thanks for the bug link | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:39:13] <[0x100]> there are /28, /23, etc on this network, | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:40:52] <fzzzt> we have a /26 :) | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:40:56] <fzzzt> among others | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:41:03] <fzzzt> cidr fun | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:41:47] <[0x100]> so does anyone have a good solution for network compares that don't meet on 8 bit boundaries? | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:42:03] <kjetilho> [0x100]: define a function, or use template code. | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:43:20] <[0x100]> ok, i will give that a try | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:43:45] <kjetilho> look for the Ruby module ipaddr | ||
| [2009/12/08 10:45:53] <[0x100]> not a ruby programmer here, but I'll dig into the docs | ||
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| [2009/12/08 11:06:57] <ccaum> Hello all. At puppetcamp we discussed having meta data in modules' root directories to define module dependencies. Is there a syntax and filename that's been decided upon? | ||
| [2009/12/08 11:07:20] <duritong> ccaum: don't think so yet | ||
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| [2009/12/08 11:07:36] <duritong> ccaum: there is a proof of concept, but nobody really stood up to finish it | ||
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| [2009/12/08 11:10:01] <ccaum> Is the proof of concept up on a wiki somehwere? | ||
| [2009/12/08 11:10:25] <ccaum> I'm writing a puppet manager that will need to build a dependency tree | ||
| [2009/12/08 11:10:56] <ccaum> I'd rather not write my own if it's already being done somewhere else since I someday want to contribute my modules | ||
| [2009/12/08 11:11:24] <duritong> ccaum: on the -dev list | ||
| [2009/12/08 11:11:35] <ccaum> duritong: sweet, thanks | ||
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| [2009/12/08 11:24:46] <groove> is there a more comprehensive list anywhere of what exactly is and isn't stored when using thin stored configs? | ||
| [2009/12/08 11:25:35] <bitfield> a little OT but has anyone ever tried to access a checkpoint vpn from linux? any ideas how to do it? checkpoint themselves don't seem to have a client | ||
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| [2009/12/08 11:30:58] <barn> bitfield: admining it, or IPSEC style? | ||
| [2009/12/08 11:31:17] <bitfield> ipsec style. just setting up a tunneled connection so i can sshfs over it | ||
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| [2009/12/08 11:32:31] <bitfield> from what i can see, the only linux client available is for redhat 7.2, and its functionality is limited to just panicking the kernel | ||
| [2009/12/08 11:34:52] <barn> if it's pure ipsec, then mumbleswan or vpnc should do it | ||
| [2009/12/08 11:35:03] <barn> it's been a long time since I'd had to deal with chuckpoint | ||
| [2009/12/08 11:35:06] <bitfield> there's a thing called 'ssl network extender', which supposedly runs from your browser. how's that supposed to work on a headless server? | ||
| [2009/12/08 11:35:18] <bitfield> ah, i'll look at those then, thanks :) | ||
| [2009/12/08 11:35:48] <barn> openswan I think is the more acceptable version over freeswan | ||
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| [2009/12/08 11:35:57] <barn> but then linux went all /etc/ipsec.conf and KAME | ||
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| [2009/12/08 11:46:34] <fsweetser> what's the best output that an external nodes script should return if it can't find the requested host? | ||
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| [2009/12/08 11:47:44] <fsweetser> the wiki implies to me that it should return nothing, but I wanted to be certain | ||
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| [2009/12/08 11:49:22] <gepetto> ::trac:: Recipes/ModuleSSHAuth edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/Recipes/ModuleSSHAuth?version=2 | ||
| [2009/12/08 11:49:22] <gepetto> ::trac:: auth.pp attached to Recipes/ModuleSSHAuth @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/attachment/wiki/Recipes/ModuleSSHAuth/auth.pp | ||
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| [2009/12/08 12:26:18] <danielbln> wow, it took me 5 minutes to set up mongrel/apache load balancing | ||
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| [2009/12/08 12:34:11] <diranged> can i have one module require another module? | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:34:23] <diranged> ie ... 'svn_server' module requires 'apache' module? | ||
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| [2009/12/08 12:35:34] <joe-mac> diranged: thre is a keyword called 'require' in newe rversions | ||
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| [2009/12/08 12:35:49] <kjetilho> you can also simply include it | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:35:54] <joe-mac> so your svn_server instead of "include"-ing tyou would "require" | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:36:04] <joe-mac> well, i assumed he meant for order dependency | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:36:13] <joe-mac> include is sufficient if order does not matter | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:36:13] <diranged> yeah i did.. but either would 'work' | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:36:18] <diranged> im running 0.25.1... | ||
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| [2009/12/08 12:36:41] <kjetilho> cross module order dependencies? sounds bad... | ||
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| [2009/12/08 12:36:50] <joe-mac> kjetilho: yea, i know | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:36:50] <joe-mac> lol | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:37:00] <diranged> ok lemme try to clarify just a bit.. | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:37:08] <joe-mac> i';ve only had one or two weird dependency infinite loops | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:37:12] <joe-mac> didn't get too hectic but i could imagine | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:37:23] <diranged> ive got a 'apache' module that im workling on that will setup basic apache, and let a user specify one (or more) custom .conf files to include... | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:37:45] <diranged> in addition, i have an svn-module that sets up repositories, config files, etc... and i want to pull out the httpd-specific code and leave that only in the apache module | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:38:51] <diranged> so one server could just say include svn-server and get the svn-server module (Which thus included the apache module)... another server might say : include apache ("conf.a","conf.b") AND ALSO do a include svn-server... and it would first get the apache module with custom config files... and then also get the svn module... | ||
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| [2009/12/08 12:41:33] <KarlHungus> can you set a source that concatenates two files? | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:41:52] <KarlHungus> on the server side, not the client with concatenated_file from the common module | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:43:32] <kjetilho> KarlHungus: template(file1, file2) | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:44:56] <KarlHungus> wow. | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:47:13] <diranged> hmm so the 'require' seemed like it worked.. but if i have 'Service { httpd }' in say svn_server as a notify... but that service is defined in apache... do i need to notify it differently | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:47:16] <diranged> like apache.httpd? | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:47:53] <BB|Work> diranged, you can have apache include a conf.d directory, then for those things setup a custom type to push one extra config.d/$name.conf file. each of those other things can then include however many you want | ||
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| [2009/12/08 12:56:31] <KarlHungus> kjetilho: i'm working on a very simplistic iptables module. i've got content => template("iptables/common-header","iptables/nodes.d/${fqdn}-rules","iptables/common-footer") | ||
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| [2009/12/08 12:56:47] <KarlHungus> it works great as long as the ${fqdn}-rules file is present | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:57:08] <kjetilho> *nod* | ||
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| [2009/12/08 12:57:24] <KarlHungus> and if it isn't present i get an error =) | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:57:40] <KarlHungus> i'm not sure how to set that up like i would with source | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:57:50] <kjetilho> I guess you need to hardcode the file reading in Ruby code... | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:58:03] <KarlHungus> hmm | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:58:36] <KarlHungus> is there a way to do ${fqdn:"common"} ? | ||
| [2009/12/08 12:58:48] <KarlHungus> so i pull common-rules if $fqdn isn't set? | ||
| [2009/12/08 13:00:28] <KarlHungus> well, hmm. fqdn would always be set, so i need to test if the file exists | ||
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| [2009/12/08 13:29:35] <diranged> how do i say 'if this variable was passed in, run this define?' | ||
| [2009/12/08 13:30:03] <kjetilho> if $var { define { "": } } | ||
| [2009/12/08 13:31:21] <rocket> is there anyone here who has worked with creating custom types and providers? | ||
| [2009/12/08 13:32:25] <diranged> ok.. now lets say i have : class apache { blablabla } ... | ||
| [2009/12/08 13:33:18] <diranged> if someone just calls 'include apache', i want it to run through and ignore a function.. but if someone passes in $var, i want it to run that define. now the if statement works.. but whats the syntax for the class apache { line to check for a variable being passed in? | ||
| [2009/12/08 13:33:31] <diranged> or perhaps more simply put.. whats the default name of a variable if its passed into a clasS? | ||
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| [2009/12/08 13:44:00] <BB|Work> diranged, you don't really pass a variable to a class, varaibles can be looked up in a higher scope tho | ||
| [2009/12/08 13:44:10] <BB|Work> diranged, hang on a sec i'll show you an example of exactly what you want to do | ||
| [2009/12/08 13:49:09] <BB|Work> diranged, i'm pretty sure this is the kind of thing you want to do http://pastie.org/734013 | ||
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| [2009/12/08 13:49:28] <BB|Work> but big note here. in the httpd.conf you need to have a line include conf.d/*.conf | ||
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| [2009/12/08 13:49:42] <BB|Work> but almost every default install has that | ||
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| [2009/12/08 13:54:37] <diranged> thanks thats very close to what im doing and confirms how im trying to do it now | ||
| [2009/12/08 13:54:46] <diranged> whats wrong with this statement? | ||
| [2009/12/08 13:54:46] <diranged> default : { | ||
| [2009/12/08 13:54:46] <diranged> err ( "Unknown ensure value: '$ensure'" ) | ||
| [2009/12/08 13:54:46] <diranged> } | ||
| [2009/12/08 13:55:10] <BB|Work> perhaps the space between default and : but otherwise nothing | ||
| [2009/12/08 13:55:23] <BB|Work> whats the things surrounding it | ||
| [2009/12/08 13:55:26] <BB|Work> or the error you are getting? | ||
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| [2009/12/08 13:56:53] <diranged> err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: Syntax error at 'Unknown'; expected ']' at /etc/puppet/modules/apache/manifests/init.pp:66 on node sdc01svn01.idc.logitech.com | ||
| [2009/12/08 13:57:24] <|Mike|> what's on line 66 ? | ||
| [2009/12/08 13:58:03] <diranged> ack nevermind.. 3 lines earlier, missing quote | ||
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| [2009/12/08 13:58:15] <|Mike|> hehe | ||
| [2009/12/08 13:58:53] <diranged> ok ... now its close to working, but im making it more complicated... | ||
| [2009/12/08 13:59:07] <diranged> is there a variable in a class that returns the name of that class? | ||
| [2009/12/08 13:59:29] <diranged> ie... class myclass { } and some variable like $_ would return 'myclass' | ||
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| [2009/12/08 14:01:17] <diranged> (i want to say in class svn { apache::site{$myclass/templates/svn.conf} } for example, and have $myclass return 'svn' so that it pulls the template from the svn/templates dir... | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:03:34] <diranged> actually... sorry thats wrong | ||
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| [2009/12/08 14:04:18] <diranged> i want to say.. class svn { apache::site{svn.conf} } and then in class apache { define site { }} i want to know the name of the class that called it | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:04:45] <|Mike|> typereference => source | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:06:17] <diranged> can you elaborate? im a bit unsure how to use that.. | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:07:10] <|Mike|> I have totally no clue about what you're trying to achieve | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:08:01] <diranged> ok so if class 'svn' says apache::site{svn.conf} ... i want apache::site to know that it should look for svn.conf in the /svn/templates dir.. so it needs to know that class 'svn' is what called apache::site | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:10:09] <zahna> a define can't be referenced like a regular resource, right? | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:11:15] <diranged> im stealing a good bit from http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/Recipes/DebianApache2Recipe... and its mostly working. | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:13:01] <BB|Work> diranged, variable lookups can go up | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:13:13] <|Mike|> diranged: aha, now i got you. | ||
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| [2009/12/08 14:13:49] <BB|Work> diranged, you might want to make them seperate modules | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:14:02] <BB|Work> cause then the template dir would be modules/svn/templates/ automatically | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:14:27] <diranged> really? everywhere i've called a template, ive manually specified /modulename/template.erb.. | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:14:37] <diranged> could i have just done "template.erb" without anything else? | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:14:39] <BB|Work> oh i could be mistaken | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:14:46] <BB|Work> let me check again | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:15:17] <BB|Work> yeah just call template.erb | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:15:21] <BB|Work> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ModuleOrganisation | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:15:31] <BB|Work> oh | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:15:34] <BB|Work> no i guess it is modulename | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:15:41] <BB|Work> content => template("autofs/auto.master.erb") | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:15:42] <BB|Work> bummer | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:15:44] <BB|Work> didn't realize | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:16:04] <BB|Work> diranged, you could just pass in the source into the type | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:16:19] <diranged> haha that worked | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:16:38] <BB|Work> sweet | ||
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| [2009/12/08 14:18:04] <BB|Work> diranged, you could always also do a hack like this. but i think you got it already http://pastie.org/734079 | ||
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| [2009/12/08 14:18:14] <mxmasster> hello | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:18:27] <mxmasster> i'm looking for an example to install perl modules via cpan with pupet | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:18:44] <BB|Work> heh | ||
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| [2009/12/08 14:19:38] <BB|Work> mxmasster, you can probably use a nicely constructed exec to do it. but i would recommend using cpan2rpm on a vm to build a package and install that | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:19:48] <ccaum> mxmasster: Wow, that's a loaded task actually. The problem exists in that CPAN sucks at managing modules. Most modules in CPAN aren't versioned which makes it very difficult for external tools, like puppet, to manage. | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:20:31] <mxmasster> cpan2rpm thanks - i'll check that out | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:20:48] <ccaum> I finally gave up on doing CPAN in puppet and just build my own RPMs/debs/etc | ||
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| [2009/12/08 14:21:59] <ccaum> mxmasster: I recommend looking at Dag Weirs' yum repo. Thousands of prebuilt perl modules in there: http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/ | ||
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| [2009/12/08 14:22:45] <mxmasster> yeah unfortunately not available | ||
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| [2009/12/08 14:24:05] <fsweetser> mxmasster: also check out cpanspec - I believe that's what the fedora project is currently using | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:24:14] <mxmasster> thanks | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:24:21] <fsweetser> no prob | ||
| [2009/12/08 14:25:26] <diranged> hmm how do i make puppet not care if it cant back up a file before changing it | ||
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| [2009/12/08 14:28:00] <diranged> bah i had a typo earlier... its not working as i had hoped | ||
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| [2009/12/08 14:35:57] <diranged> ok i got it i guess ... crappy, but i manually pass it the sourceClass to get the template from.. not ideal, but it works | ||
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| [2009/12/08 15:00:57] <jrojas> can you specify an alternate report server ? | ||
| [2009/12/08 15:03:25] <jrojas> ah reportserver setting. awesome. | ||
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| [2009/12/08 15:09:38] <zahna> can i relate defines to regular resources? | ||
| [2009/12/08 15:10:32] <zahna> i want to make sure my gem sources are set before any gems are installed | ||
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| [2009/12/08 15:22:57] <diranged> well thanks for the help guys... everything is working as-needed right now.. | ||
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| [2009/12/08 16:19:09] <himanshu> Is there some way where we can set prerference on yum repository, say I have created some local repository and I want yum install to hit external centos repo only if package is missing from my local repo? | ||
| [2009/12/08 16:20:01] <himanshu> say some rpm exists on my external centos repo and customized version on my local repo, I want first hit to be always on local repo | ||
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| [2009/12/08 16:25:19] <gpled> looking for input on my module making code: http://linux-coders.pastebin.com/d35589131 | ||
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| [2009/12/08 16:31:57] <david415> miah: sup | ||
| [2009/12/08 16:38:04] <dan__t> argh I need to start looking at external nodes | ||
| [2009/12/08 16:38:12] <dan__t> I have way too much data to not be using that :/ | ||
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| [2009/12/08 16:39:17] <dan__t> I can use LDAP nodes in much the same way, yes? | ||
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| [2009/12/08 16:41:46] <neek> hrm. the virtual users users module doesn't by chance use home directory existence to determine if a user exists already, does it? | ||
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| [2009/12/08 16:45:27] <dan__t> Anyone using LDAP nodes out of MS Active Directory? | ||
| [2009/12/08 16:46:46] <dan__t> Doesn't look like its possible. | ||
| [2009/12/08 16:48:12] <agaffney> it should be possible if you add the proper schema bits | ||
| [2009/12/08 16:50:43] <dan__t> Yea that's what I was thinking. | ||
| [2009/12/08 16:50:51] <dan__t> Just had a chat with my friendly Windows admin. | ||
| [2009/12/08 16:50:55] <jrojas> himanshu: that is more of a yum issue not a puppet issue, if you did any customizations to an rpm in your local repo and you want it to be installed versus the base repo, then you need to bump the version number of the rpm you made so it looks like a newer version than the one that is in the centos repo | ||
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| [2009/12/08 16:51:16] <dan__t> I don't want to replicate ALL of our AD to Production, just the bits pertaining to Puppet. | ||
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| [2009/12/08 17:03:29] <neek> so fun virtual user stuff. | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:03:53] <neek> I have some users that I want to create system accounts for, but the box is using ldap and these users exist in ldap. | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:04:11] <jrojas> useradd -r | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:04:14] <jrojas> :) | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:04:18] <neek> puppet realizes the users exist even though they're not in /etc/passwd, and throws errors when it tries to update them. | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:04:18] <himanshu> Are there any puppet manifest for installing Jetty server? | ||
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| [2009/12/08 17:05:09] <neek> jrojas: and how do I translate that into a realize User / @user statement? :) | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:05:12] <jrojas> neek: the issue is, your system is ldap aware, puppet knows nothing about ldap, only the libs that talk to the underlying auth module | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:05:36] <jrojas> neek: sec | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:05:39] <jamestur1bull> himanshu: try Google | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:05:55] <himanshu> i did but couldn't find something useful | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:06:11] <jamestur1bull> himanshu: http://github.com/puzzle/puppet-jetty | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:06:20] <jrojas> neek: provider => useradd | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:06:25] <jamestur1bull> himanshu: 1st entry for "Puppet module jetty" :) | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:06:34] <neek> jrojas: cool thanks | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:06:38] <jrojas> jamestur1bull: can you google some stuff for me too? | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:06:41] <jrojas> ;) | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:06:41] <himanshu> Awsome james...!!!Thanks | ||
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| [2009/12/08 17:06:55] <jamestur1bull> jrojas: I charge a small fee | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:07:05] <jrojas> jamestur1bull: damnit, i knew there was a catch... | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:07:31] <jamestur1bull> jrojas: though seriously I do consider myself a bit of a Google power user ... a large part of my career is dependent on my ability to use my brain and Google answers to stuff :) | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:07:45] <jrojas> hehhee | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:08:31] <himanshu> hehe | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:08:47] <jamestur1bull> I shared an office with a woman whose WHOLE career was based on answering queries based on what results she got from Google | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:08:59] <jrojas> wow... | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:09:03] <himanshu> awesome | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:09:19] <Volcane> jamestur1bull: we ran a service where u could call up ppl in indonesia and ask them anything at 1.50/minute - that they would then google | ||
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| [2009/12/08 17:09:54] <jamestur1bull> Volcane: yeah I am amazed by the number of questions i get asked that could be solved with 10 seconds typing in Google :) | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:10:25] <himanshu> why specifically Indonesia? | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:10:26] <jamestur1bull> Volcane: though Indonesia? Would have thought it's Internet would maximise 1.5 a minute too | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:10:38] <jamestur1bull> perhaps that's why | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:11:07] <himanshu> haha | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:11:31] <neek> jrojas: no dice. ;/ | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:11:41] <neek> worst case I can just ignore these. | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:12:07] <jrojas> neek: you sure? i use it all the time,...well then again, its not for adding users its only for their pw hashes.. | ||
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| [2009/12/08 17:13:03] <neek> jrojas: yep, same complaint from usermod that they're not in /etc/passwd | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:13:20] <jrojas> try luseradd as a provider. | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:13:47] <jrojas> if that doesnt work, i found an old define i made to fix this issue. | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:13:53] <jrojas> or maybe i downloaded it from somewhere.. | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:13:55] <jrojas> either way | ||
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| [2009/12/08 17:14:39] <neek> heh | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:14:48] <neek> Invalid user provider 'luseradd' | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:15:09] <jrojas> neek: http://pastie.org/734409 | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:15:25] <jrojas> i think i found that somewhere... | ||
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| [2009/12/08 17:16:05] <neek> try another pastebin? we block pastie apparently. at least 90% of the time... | ||
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| [2009/12/08 17:17:29] <neek> nevermind got through | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:17:49] <neek> it's funny. 10% of the time you'll get through, other 90% you get websensed. | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:17:50] <jrojas> k | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:18:14] <jrojas> my company has a button that says "proceed anyway, its work related" | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:18:22] <jrojas> whenever one of the websense type things come sup | ||
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| [2009/12/08 17:22:16] <neek> jrojas: that goes where? user/manifests/init.pp inside the user class, then use provider=> useradd ? | ||
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| [2009/12/08 17:27:34] <gepetto_> ::trac:: Recipes/ModuleSSHAuth edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/Recipes/ModuleSSHAuth?version=3 | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:27:56] * neek wants an 'uninclude' so I can inherit a shared config but exclude for the rare case an include from the inherit. | ||
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| [2009/12/08 17:35:41] <z00dax> so, how do you guys monitor your lvm setups ? | ||
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| [2009/12/08 17:37:24] <jrojas> neek: that goes wherever it will be included, and instead of user { "blah":... } you do useradd { "blah":... } | ||
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| [2009/12/08 17:37:58] <neek> ahh gotcha | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:38:04] <neek> will try that in a few. | ||
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| [2009/12/08 17:38:24] <neek> so other than those borken users, how do I add a user to a group other than their gid? | ||
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| [2009/12/08 17:41:53] <neek> and is there actually any documentation for virtual users beyond the small snippits I've been able to find? | ||
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| [2009/12/08 17:54:14] <neek> ok found that. now how do I put crypyed passwords in for the users with puppet? password => doesnt do it. | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:54:33] <Volcane> install ruby-shadow | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:55:00] <neek> on client or master? | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:55:22] <ezekiel> client, at least. Which is were the shadow file will be modified. | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:55:28] <neek> yuk. ok. | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:55:55] <neek> ah, it's there already (at least on this one box I care about right now) | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:55:59] <neek> so no dice. | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:56:27] <Volcane> works for me | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:56:47] <neek> sure would be nice if there were any sane docs for the user module. :( | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:57:11] <ezekiel> what are you using to crypt the password? | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:57:27] <Djelibeybi> neek: don't put the password in double-quotes " as it'll try to replace the $ in the hash | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:57:33] <ashp> hey volcane, do you have a doc on how you handle facter, i know you have files on each node that control certain facts, right, like classes.txt or something? | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:57:34] <Djelibeybi> neek: use single quotes ' instead | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:57:41] <ezekiel> definitely needs single quotes. | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:57:51] <ashp> i am slowly plotting my vast overhaul and i was thinking of a /puppet/ on each node with various files that facter will drag in | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:57:52] <neek> ah that might be it. | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:57:59] <Volcane> ashp: i just have a facts.txt with key=val in it | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:58:01] <neek> though the actual passwords that get set are null. | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:58:08] <Volcane> ashp: and a few automated ones | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:58:29] <ezekiel> null would be a predictable outcome of an interpolated variable that didn't exist. | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:58:49] <ashp> i thought about that, but /puppet/factname with the contents being val seemed easier as i can just echo "blah" > /puppet/fact to update them | ||
| [2009/12/08 17:59:43] <Volcane> /anything, gringeworthy | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:01:22] <ashp> it's true, i guess i could use /etc/puppet/facts/ | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:01:25] <ashp> or something | ||
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| [2009/12/08 18:07:34] <neek> singlequotes did it. thx | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:09:56] <dan__t> I can't store variables and stuff in LDAP when I use LDAP nodes, can I? | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:10:06] <dan__t> Or are "LDAP Nodes" simply that - just node definitions? | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:10:32] <Volcane> did u read the wiki page? | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:11:04] <dan__t> Man I don't know what's wrong with me today. | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:11:21] <dan__t> I'm sorry for acting like a retard today. | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:11:27] <Volcane> :) | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:11:40] <dan__t> puppetVar | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:12:10] <dan__t> I'm very green with LDAP, and I've never used Puppet with it before. | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:13:33] <dan__t> Right now, as I think you know, I use facts that dissect $fqdn to find out where the machine is (production, qa etc etc) based on hostname. | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:14:04] <dan__t> I wouldn't have to do that with LDAP nodes. I could assign an 'environment' attribute to a node. | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:14:27] <Volcane> except then it would be a manual assignment instead of automagic | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:14:40] <Volcane> more work, more to forget, mor to get wrong | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:15:27] <dan__t> Exactly, that's what makes me wary about even going this route. | ||
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| [2009/12/08 18:16:48] <dan__t> What about having like another OU or something that defines variables that can be used in those attributes... | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:18:57] <dan__t> You usually have something very interesting to say about things like this haha | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:19:46] * Volcane 's internet is too rubbish in this hotel | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:19:48] <Volcane> going to sleep | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:21:04] <xmslack_> has anyone seen truncated catalogs in 0.25.1? | ||
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| [2009/12/08 18:22:46] <dan__t> Thanks, have a good one! | ||
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| [2009/12/08 18:25:40] <dan__t> How would I distinguish a node to be of a certain business unit type? Say I have 4 machines that should be identical, but one of them needs a special configuration in one class. Can I define $special_configuration = 1 in nodes.pp or something, for that node? | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:26:31] <neek> so I have 1 box that's kicking back a fail to realize for 1 group and 1 user, regardless of if they exist or not. it's a hard break, too, that stops puppetd. | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:26:51] <neek> err: Could not retrieve catalog: Failed to realize virtual resources Group[domain_users], User[ffallateuf] on node tibtwo-blaze.tib.ad.ea.com | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:26:51] <neek> warning: Not using cache on failed catalog | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:27:10] <neek> the group, at least, works fine everywhere else. | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:27:34] <neek> and debug output seems useless. | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:27:46] <jrojas> does User[ffallateuf] require => Group[whatever] ? | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:28:50] <neek> not a specific require, though that group is it's GID. but the same applies to the other 20 nearly duplicate users. | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:29:05] <neek> and the group already exists. | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:29:14] <neek> (removing it doesnt help, nor does putting it bacl) | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:29:55] <neek> mm, the group looks like a scope issue. | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:30:24] <neek> moved out out of virtual_groups directly into the class it's being realized in and it worked ok. | ||
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| [2009/12/08 18:30:55] <neek> and the user, come to think of it, has a differently crypted password. it's about 4 times a long (and came from a differnt server). | ||
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| [2009/12/08 18:31:06] <neek> though works fine on that box using useradd. | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:31:09] <neek> by hand. | ||
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| [2009/12/08 18:32:33] <neek> oh. | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:32:34] <neek> haha. | ||
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| [2009/12/08 18:32:38] <neek> the user isn't defined. | ||
| [2009/12/08 18:33:27] <neek> I even know why. (I somehow managed to delete the bottom half of my class, but recovered it from the original scripted output that generated most of it. that was the 1 added by hand.) | ||
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| [2009/12/08 18:43:56] <neek> thanks guys. :) | ||
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| [2009/12/08 19:25:59] <dan__t> So on my client, I specified --environment=dev. I've also specified a [dev] in puppet.conf, with a different module path. When the client runs, it doesn't act as if it has no modules to use. It acts as if --environment didn't do anything. | ||
| [2009/12/08 19:28:18] <ezekiel> It's the puppetmaster that uses "modulepath", not the puppet client, right? | ||
| [2009/12/08 19:29:37] <dan__t> "...The environment Puppet is running in. For clients (e.g., puppetd ) this determines the environment itself, which is used to find modules and much more." | ||
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| [2009/12/08 19:32:20] <dan__t> Its just not working as I had expected. | ||
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| [2009/12/08 19:40:18] <dan__t> Deleting the client's catalog seemed to work. | ||
| [2009/12/08 19:40:41] <dan__t> The modules that were being applied were those containing crons. I believe Volcane mentioned this as being a bug. | ||
| [2009/12/08 19:42:08] <dan__t> Well, not really. Almost. | ||
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| [2009/12/08 19:46:39] <dan__t> Which is really annoying :/ | ||
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| [2009/12/08 20:07:53] <jrojas> dan__t: ive seen that happen on a few 0.24.8 clients too | ||
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| [2009/12/08 20:31:42] <ohadlevy> morning | ||
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| [2009/12/08 20:39:29] <sebas891> hi folks, you already know that puppet rocks! | ||
| [2009/12/08 20:39:45] <jrojas> so do unicorns. | ||
| [2009/12/08 20:39:54] <sebas891> now, I've a question, can I set a default provider globally? | ||
| [2009/12/08 20:40:00] <jrojas> yes | ||
| [2009/12/08 20:40:24] <sebas891> where should I do that? | ||
| [2009/12/08 20:40:54] <jrojas> usually in a class that would be included into all hosts. or in a global.pp file that gets imported on all hosts | ||
| [2009/12/08 20:41:38] <ajf-> I put it in my site.pp | ||
| [2009/12/08 20:41:51] <sebas891> because, sometimes puppet thinks the provider is freebsd... and sometimes it's debian. and I use ubuntu. | ||
| [2009/12/08 20:42:10] <jrojas> ive never heard of a freebsd provider | ||
| [2009/12/08 20:42:13] <ajf-> if $operatingsystem == "Ubuntu" { Package [ provider => "apt" ] } | ||
| [2009/12/08 20:42:35] <ohadlevy> sebas891: you should consider upgrading your puppet, a lot has been fixed since that version you are using (I assume 0.24-5) | ||
| [2009/12/08 20:42:55] <sebas891> ajf-: thanks for the clue. | ||
| [2009/12/08 20:43:46] <sebas891> ohadlevy: yes, I know but I would like to wait until, I roll out the next version of ubuntu. | ||
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| [2009/12/08 20:50:10] <ajf-> are there any screenshots of this puppet-dashboard thing? | ||
| [2009/12/08 20:58:20] <jrojas> ajf-: people have been requesting some, but it doesnt seem like anyone is trying to install it | ||
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