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| [2009/12/28 05:00:51] <Rejo> http://pastie.org/758598 <- Did I run into a bug here? Basicaly, when using a variable in the user definition, the execution fails when the variable is referencing an array. Using the array directly works fine. | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:08:20] <Volcane> "${group}" | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:08:27] <Volcane> tells it "please make this array into a string" | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:09:16] <tim|macbook> what are allowed characters for a class name? I can't seem to find it on the wiki... | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:09:57] <Volcane> tim|macbook: its in wiki:LanguageTutorial but basically stick to a-z,A-Z,1-9,_ | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:09:58] <gepetto_> Volcane: tim|macbook: wiki:LanguageTutorial is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/LanguageTutorial | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:10:12] <tim|macbook> grr... apparantly, I'm blind... thx Volcane | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:10:46] <Volcane> using a "-" works but docs doesnt list it as valid, have a ticket open for clarification | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:11:27] <tim|macbook> and dots aren't allowed either, i see | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:12:34] <Rejo> Volcane: Ok. I will look into that in a second. Some urgent issue came up. Of course. | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:27:24] <gepetto_> ::trac:: Recipes/ModuleSSHAuth edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/Recipes/ModuleSSHAuth?version=7 | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:27:25] <gepetto_> ::trac:: auth.pp attached to Recipes/ModuleSSHAuth @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/attachment/wiki/Recipes/ModuleSSHAuth/auth.pp | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:31:18] <tim|macbook> does anyone have an simple little program with which to try out regexes for puppet's regsubst? i usually use sed for this, but it needs more escaped tokens than the ruby one, i guess | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:34:01] <Rejo> Volcane: Aah. Removing both the curly brackets as well as the quotes makes it work. Thanks. | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:34:18] <Volcane> tim|macbook: you can probably just use irb from ruby? | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:34:34] <Volcane> puts "matched" if "foo" =~ /o/ | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:34:53] <Volcane> ah wait regsubst, let me see how that works, but you'd def be able to do it in ruby :) | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:35:07] <tim|macbook> time to really start learning ruby then :/ | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:35:28] <|Mike|> you or me ? :-) | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:35:32] <Volcane> ah thats a bit harsh to test in ruby | ||
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| [2009/12/28 05:37:17] <tim|macbook> hm... ok, I'll figure something out then | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:38:31] <Volcane> not sure how to call puppet parser fnctions from normal ruby | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:39:30] <tim|macbook> well, i'd be happy just to test if the regex does what i want it to do | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:39:36] <gepetto_> ::trac:: Recipes/ModuleSSHAuth edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/Recipes/ModuleSSHAuth?version=8 | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:40:26] <tim|macbook> doesn't have to be syntax compatible in the actual call, three seperate strings and all... just being able to do something like "/^.*$/\1/" would be enough | ||
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| [2009/12/28 05:41:15] <Volcane> ah, yeah then probably irb can do it if you just want to know if your regexes will match | ||
| [2009/12/28 05:42:28] * tim|macbook checks out irb | ||
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| [2009/12/28 06:02:03] <monachus> morning, all - having a weird issue with one of our puppet clients | ||
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| [2009/12/28 06:02:25] <monachus> after its disks vanished on 12/15 (iscsi issue with our fileserver), it started reporting this: | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:02:27] <monachus> err: Could not prefetch cron provider 'crontab': Could not parse line " #fcron || dcron:" at root:2 | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:02:37] <monachus> and it installs crippled crontabs | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:03:26] <monachus> i'm unable to find that line it's complaining about (it's not in our manifests anywhere, and find/fgrep on the entire puppet installation in /usr/lib/ turns up nothing) | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:03:32] <monachus> any thoughts on where else i can look? | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:09:22] <tim|macbook> I'm making a confession here: I really have a love-hate relationship with regexp... I hate it when I'm designing them, but I love 'em when they work. | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:10:20] <tim|macbook> monachus: seems to me that you cron provider is corrupted on disk | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:10:42] <tim|macbook> you might want to try reinstalling that file (or at least checksumming it and comparing it with a working installation) | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:10:55] <monachus> ah - so it's not a puppet thing but an fcron thing? | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:11:07] <monachus> b/c i can't find the file it refers to | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:11:22] <Volcane> i think its when puppet tries to figure out if you have cron/fcron/etc it fails, perhaps cos some puppet files got corrupted | ||
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| [2009/12/28 06:12:06] <tim|macbook> I meant this file: /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/puppet/provider/cron/crontab.rb (under Debian, that is) | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:12:20] <monachus> aha | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:12:29] <tim|macbook> checksum it and see if it's the same on another, working installation | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:12:41] <tim|macbook> or reinstall puppet | ||
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| [2009/12/28 06:12:46] <Volcane> what OS is it? | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:12:48] <monachus> "root" refers to the actual root crontab file. cool - i'll | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:12:53] <tim|macbook> which might be the easiest solution | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:13:02] <monachus> i'll prob reinstall puppet and fcron | ||
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| [2009/12/28 06:13:06] <monachus> volcane: gentoo | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:13:21] <tim|macbook> or indeed, the root crontab might be corrupted | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:13:35] <Volcane> ah, rpm has a tool to verify checksums of files on disk from wat they was when first isntalled, helpful in cases like this, not sure if gentoo has that | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:13:35] <tim|macbook> which should easily be fixed by emptying it out and starting a puppet run :) | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:13:41] <monachus> figures - i'm all looking for complicated solutions, and it's the obvious one. | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:13:41] <monachus> :) | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:14:13] <tim|macbook> debian has debsums, which can check those checksums too | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:14:21] <monachus> looks like everything got a single space inserted | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:14:34] <monachus> so # isn't at the beginning of the line, and it's making fcron cranky. | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:14:47] <Volcane> time to reinstall that mchine I'd say | ||
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| [2009/12/28 06:16:33] <monachus> tx, guys | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:19:14] <tim|macbook> I want to add some syntax checks to my defined type, to make sure it doesn't create broken resources... is there any way besides a large if/else-construction with which I can stop the execution of the defined type if a certain test fails? | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:19:49] <Volcane> i guess u can do fail("foo") | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:20:08] <Volcane> which will basically stop processing the defined resource and mark it as failed so relationship/dependencies will fail too | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:20:34] <tim|macbook> ah! fail | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:20:41] <tim|macbook> thx | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:20:43] <tim|macbook> so obvious | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:21:04] <Volcane> oh wait no thats not it | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:21:15] <Volcane> that'll parse error out the whole run | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:21:39] <Volcane> no sorry | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:21:50] <Volcane> if blocks i think :( | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:22:34] <tim|macbook> i don't mind it bailing out of the whole run, as long as it doesn't create the faulty resources :) | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:22:36] <Volcane> well i guess parse error abort the whole run might be wht u want - then fail is useful :) | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:22:43] <tim|macbook> exactly :) | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:22:59] <Volcane> but a way to bail out of a class/define would be useful | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:23:10] <Volcane> might file a feature request for that | ||
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| [2009/12/28 06:27:32] <tim|macbook> yet another question, is there a way to count the items in an array? I want to check if the end result is exactly three items, no more, no less... (splitting a string at its spaces) | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:28:23] <Volcane> not natively but u can hack it with inline_template | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:28:38] <Volcane> $size = inline_template("<%= arr.size %>") | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:30:21] <tim|macbook> ah cool | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:30:44] <tim|macbook> thanks yet again, o ye fountain of puppet knowledge! | ||
| [2009/12/28 06:31:04] <Volcane> heh kewl | ||
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| [2009/12/28 07:04:03] <xerxas> Hi all | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:04:30] <xerxas> how do you people manage users / groups / ssh keys for admins on your server ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:05:45] <xerxas> Admins already have keys, should I do sth like this: file { content = "AAA.content.of.id_dsa.pub" } ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:06:44] <henk> there is a type for keys iirc | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:06:56] <xerxas> ok | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:07:07] <xerxas> so I'm supposed to write my own module ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:07:47] <samppah> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference#ssh-authorized-key | ||
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| [2009/12/28 07:08:17] <henk> xerxas: if you like... | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:08:32] <xerxas> ok | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:08:32] <xerxas> thanks | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:08:38] <xerxas> also, I have another question | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:08:52] <xerxas> I'm building a geographical redundant architecture | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:09:15] <xerxas> I want to do "mutliple inhertiance" on nodes | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:09:20] <xerxas> I think this is not possible | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:09:39] <henk> so everything will continue working when one geography fails? | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:09:40] <xerxas> but what I want would be that w1-site1 inherits for www-server AND site1 | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:09:46] <xerxas> henk: yep | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:10:06] <xerxas> how should I architecture my nodes so I can inherit from both | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:10:15] <henk> ah, sounds interesting... i always thought there was only one geography and that it could hardly fail. good luck... | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:10:34] <xerxas> node site1 {} sets the global variables for all hosts in site1 site | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:11:14] <xerxas> node www-server {} is found on both site, with the same configuration , but not the same global (let's say the local syslog and ntp server) | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:11:29] <Volcane> xerxas: you should use something like 'extlookup' for that rather - google it | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:11:46] <xerxas> is this a node classifier ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:12:15] <xerxas> Volcane: thanks | ||
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| [2009/12/28 07:13:17] <Volcane> xerxas: http://www.devco.net/archives/2009/08/31/complex_data_and_puppet.php | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:14:53] <xerxas> nice | ||
| [2009/12/28 07:16:00] <Volcane> someone is working on making the backend pluggable if CSV isnt to your liking. but csv is everywhere and easy | ||
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| [2009/12/28 08:07:02] <gepetto_> ::trac:: Recipes/ModuleSSHAuth edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/Recipes/ModuleSSHAuth?version=9 | ||
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| [2009/12/28 08:55:35] <nexx> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/UsingMongrel - point "Apache Configuration" -> is this the apache2.conf file?! | ||
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| [2009/12/28 08:59:37] <nexx> or just a new .conf which i load with starting apache? e.g. "apach2 -f /etc/apache2/puppetmongrel.conf"? | ||
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| [2009/12/28 09:01:53] <|Mike|> nexx: no | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:03:00] <|Mike|> you need to configure your apache so it uses those mongrels with proxy / proxy_balancer / http_proxy to load balance :) | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:04:42] <nexx> correc | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:04:43] <nexx> t | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:04:51] <nexx> and for this, i need a new config-file, right? | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:04:57] <|Mike|> no you don't :) | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:05:10] <|Mike|> i've written a document about it, but never finished it :p | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:05:12] * |Mike| pastebins | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:06:50] <xerxas> can I use function created with the "define" keyword in my nodes descriptions ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:07:09] <|Mike|> http://pastebin.com/m2518f672 | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:07:11] <xerxas> err: Could not retrieve catalog: Could not parse for environment production: Unknown function account at /etc/puppet/manifests/nodes.pp:34 | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:08:01] <xerxas> but I have a define account($user, $key) { […] } somewhere in my code that I think is correctly included | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:08:39] <nexx> |Mike|: finish it, now! :-P | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:10:19] <|Mike|> it's finished ;) | ||
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| [2009/12/28 09:17:01] <|Mike|> nexx: You get it working? | ||
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| [2009/12/28 09:21:40] <nexx> |Mike|: dont know yet | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:23:06] <nexx> problem is the ssl stuff | ||
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| [2009/12/28 09:23:30] <nexx> oh, maybe i should enter the correct puppet/ssl path :D | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:23:45] <|Mike|> that would help. | ||
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| [2009/12/28 09:28:35] <nexx> |Mike|: i got no files in the ssl-dir, do i have to generate the certs myself? | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:28:52] <nexx> per puppetca --generate domain? | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:29:37] <xerxas> I follow what's written in this mail: | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:29:38] <xerxas> http://osdir.com/ml/puppet-users/2009-11/msg00068.html | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:29:58] <xerxas> and I get this: "err: Could not retrieve catalog: Could not parse for environment production: Syntax error at '('; expected ')' at /etc/puppet/manifests/nodes.pp:3" | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:30:29] <xerxas> the line 3 of my nodes.pp is: users::add ("myusername") | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:30:47] <xerxas> can anyone explain me what am I doing wrong ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:31:32] <tim|macbook> ghe... there's a split function, but no combine function... | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:32:10] <tim|macbook> xerxas: if it's a type, it should be users::add { "myusername":; } | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:32:53] <tim|macbook> s/type/resource/ | ||
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| [2009/12/28 09:39:31] <xerxas> tim|macbook: err, right ! ;) | ||
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| [2009/12/28 09:41:42] <|Mike|> xerxas: tim|macbook is always right ;) | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:41:58] <tim|macbook> well, i wouldn't say that, really :P | ||
| [2009/12/28 09:42:16] <tim|macbook> (nice way to publicly kiss up to the boss, though, mike :P) | ||
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| [2009/12/28 09:51:28] <tim|macbook> Volcane: any chance you know a inline_template syntax that will combine every item of an array and adds a , in between (except for the last one)? :) | ||
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| [2009/12/28 10:02:52] <nexx> aww.. "Address already in use: make_sock: coult not bind to address 0.0.0.0:8140" <-- whatever row in my vhost causes this, i dont like it!" | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:05:32] <nexx> |Mike|: in the rows with "balancermember" i wrote the ip that i entered to the /etc/hosts file. serveradmin/-name/-alias is the name i entered to /etc/hosts. right? | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:06:38] <|Mike|> did you change /etc/defaults/puppetmaster ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:07:07] <nexx> there is no /etc/defaults/ | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:07:26] <|Mike|> ehm okay, what os/distro are you using? | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:07:40] <nexx> kubuntu9.04 | ||
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| [2009/12/28 10:11:05] <|Mike|> etc/default then? | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:12:21] <nexx> yes, and i didnt change the puppetmaster file | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:12:32] <nexx> oh | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:12:50] <nexx> never head of that file | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:12:51] <|Mike|> *kuch* | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:13:13] <nexx> is it enough to change from webrick to mongrel in this file? | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:13:29] <nexx> and i have to edit the instances of course | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:13:49] <|Mike|> you want mongrel, webrick stinks (nofi) | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:15:34] <nexx> so i changed: servertype=webrick->mongrel, puppetmasters=1->3, ports=8140->18140 | ||
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| [2009/12/28 10:17:52] <nexx> okay, i got 3 puppetmasterd instances | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:19:49] <|Mike|> ps aux | grep mongrel | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:20:17] <nexx> as i said, 3 | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:20:31] <nexx> on ports 18140,18141,18142 | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:20:34] <nexx> so this looks nice | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:20:56] <|Mike|> As it should, yes. | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:21:07] <nexx> but the vhost config is still buggy as hell | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:21:23] <|Mike|> Or it's just you ;) | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:21:34] <nexx> i'm sure that it is me | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:21:54] <nexx> i got several howtos now, maybe i mixed them, dunno | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:22:40] <nexx> do you have some minutes to look at my vhost? | ||
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| [2009/12/28 10:30:42] <nexx> hm, |Mike|? | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:31:50] <Volcane> tim|macbook: arr.join(",") | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:32:09] <tim|macbook> Volcane: you're awesome, thx yet again :) | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:32:16] <Volcane> :) | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:32:35] <tim|macbook> nexx: the |Mike| has left the building | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:33:26] <nexx> mh, okay...then i guess my little vhost has to wait | ||
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| [2009/12/28 10:39:13] <tim|macbook> sometimes I do miss the option to loop through an array from within puppet | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:39:52] <tim|macbook> or even do something simple as "if 'myvalue' in $myarray" | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:43:55] <Volcane> you'd usually just loop arrays to create resources though right? | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:44:36] <tim|macbook> not in my case | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:45:18] <Volcane> yeah? | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:45:28] <tim|macbook> I'm working on a http::redirect resource that takes Apache-style RewriteRule options (like QSA,R,L) and I'd like to 'translate' them in my nginx implentation to nginx stanza | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:45:44] <tim|macbook> so I could always use the Apache options, whichever httpd I'm running | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:46:10] <tim|macbook> so I was hoping to be able to do something like: | ||
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| [2009/12/28 10:46:37] <tim|macbook> http::redirect { "www.example.com /redirect-me /to/here": options => ["QSA","R"]; } | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:47:15] <tim|macbook> and for nginx 'translate' those options to whatever needs to be done on that platform | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:47:26] <tim|macbook> (nothing, actually, in this example, but you get the idea, i hope) | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:47:31] <Volcane> nods | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:47:42] <Volcane> in this example a - probably over complex - template would do the job | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:47:45] <Volcane> but yeah can see the need | ||
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| [2009/12/28 10:49:54] <nexx> can i be sure that the change from webrick to mongrel worked, if there are multiple puppetmasterd instances with mongrel and 1814* ports? | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:49:58] <tim|macbook> I think I'm going to solve it by simply implementing a verbose option for each... like 'rewrite => true, query_string_append => true' etc. | ||
| [2009/12/28 10:51:03] <tim|macbook> another usage would be, if I use the P option (proxy), it would automagically include apache::module::proxy::http (or something simpler) | ||
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| [2009/12/28 11:24:44] <xerxas> how can I defined resource instances from a resource description that is in a module | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:24:46] <xerxas> ? | ||
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| [2009/12/28 11:27:42] <xerxas> err: Could not retrieve catalog: Could not find class admins at /etc/puppet/manifests/nodes.pp:62 on node mynode | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:28:18] <xerxas> in mynode description I have : include admins | ||
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| [2009/12/28 11:28:41] <xerxas> admins {"an-admin-username", x => …} | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:29:27] <xerxas> my define is in /etc/puppet/modules/admins/manifests/init.pp and in this file I have only a define {} | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:30:29] <Volcane> admins/manifests/init.pp should have class admin { ....} | ||
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| [2009/12/28 11:31:49] <xerxas> ok | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:32:07] <xerxas> and then I can use the resource I created with define in this file, right ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:32:13] <xerxas> my class can be empty ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:32:31] <xerxas> or this class needs to call this resource ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:32:37] <Juzzy> I have: exec { "/usr/bin/apt-key add /etc/apt/famc.gpg": subscribe => File["/etc/apt/famc.gpg"] } yet the first time it downloads the file, it doesn't call the add | ||
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| [2009/12/28 11:33:10] <Volcane> xerxas: resources should be in the class | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:33:23] <Juzzy> is there an exec option to make it do that? | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:33:24] <xerxas> Juzzy: usr notify maybe ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:33:26] <xerxas> use | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:33:55] <Juzzy> hrm? not sure I follow | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:33:55] <xerxas> Volcane: ok | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:34:08] <Juzzy> exec { notify => true } ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:34:24] <xerxas> the file notify the exec command | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:34:30] <xerxas> but maybe notify exists only for services ... | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:34:49] <Juzzy> hrm, any idea what refreshonly => true does in exec {} ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:35:19] <xerxas> Juzzy: I think I told you some wrong things, sorry | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:35:20] <Juzzy> I see alot of people using it, google has yet to lead me to what it actually does | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:37:26] <Volcane> Juzzy: it makes it so the exec wont run *everytime* just when it gets a notify | ||
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| [2009/12/28 11:46:35] <xerxas> Volcane: am I right ? if the file notify the exec , than when the file changes, the exec command is executed | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:47:19] <Volcane> yes | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:47:36] <xerxas> Volcane: I cannot pass any argument to my admin class, right ? So my admin users should be in my class wich is in my module, right ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:47:59] <Volcane> yeah, not sure what u want to do but sounds about right | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:48:14] <xerxas> If I would like to have my admin users in my nodes.pp or site.pp … ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:48:26] <xerxas> I need to create the define in my nodes.pp ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:48:46] <xerxas> but my nodes.pp is not intended to contain code, for me it's just nodes descriptions | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:49:42] <Volcane> yes, nodes hsould just do includes and maybe set a few vars | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:49:49] <Volcane> modules should have your classes, defines etc | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:50:48] <xerxas> Volcane: so my admin class should be an iterator against an array of admin users defined in my node, that is defining resources I defined with the "define" in my admin module ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:51:38] <xerxas> actually, puppet doesn't have hashtables, and I need hashtables to do this because an admin for me is a pair of username <=> ssh public key | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:52:32] <Volcane> yeah usualy people make a class per user | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:52:45] <xerxas> wow | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:52:56] <xerxas> that's very verbose | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:53:00] <xerxas> isn't it ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:53:15] <Volcane> you can also make a class called adminusers or something | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:53:18] <Volcane> pop them all in there | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:53:24] <xerxas> actually, I want all admins on all systems to have the same setting | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:53:25] <Volcane> then you can refer to them as a group, include them as a group etc | ||
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| [2009/12/28 11:53:52] <xerxas> Volcane: but for me my modules directory shouldn't contain any usernames from my infrastructure | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:54:13] <xerxas> everything should be in /etc/puppet/manifests, does this sounds logic ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:54:23] <Volcane> modules are manifests | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:54:46] <Volcane> but if all your admin users are identical then u can just make a define admin_user | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:54:50] <xerxas> I have /etc/puppet/modules and /etc/puppet/manifests | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:54:55] <Volcane> do admin_user{$adminusers: } | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:55:07] <xerxas> in my node definition ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:55:49] <Volcane> in a class, lets say adminusers | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:56:26] <xerxas> I'm lost :( | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:57:16] <xerxas> I want every admin user to have a group called by it's username and home directory in /home called by it's username , and have his public deployed through puppet | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:57:52] <Volcane> something like this http://pastie.org/758921 | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:57:58] <Volcane> ok | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:57:59] <Volcane> hold | ||
| [2009/12/28 11:58:05] <xerxas> and then, I want to specify what admin users should be created on a per node basis | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:00:48] <Volcane> http://pastie.org/758921 | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:00:49] <xerxas> managehome | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:00:49] <xerxas> Whether to manage the home directory when managing the user. Valid values are true, false. | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:00:58] <xerxas> this means that it will create the home directory ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:01:18] <Volcane> yes | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:02:12] <xerxas> ok, nice | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:02:18] <xerxas> thanks for the pastie, I'm looking at it | ||
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| [2009/12/28 12:07:04] <xerxas> Volcane: what if I have 2 arguments to my adminusers function ? | ||
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| [2009/12/28 12:08:25] <xerxas> this would be $adminusers = [ "john": username => "user01", key => "thekey", "jack": username => "user02" … ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:10:17] <Volcane> that would be a hash, puppet doesnt have hashes | ||
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| [2009/12/28 12:11:37] <xerxas> so you advise my to put keys in files rather than in "code" ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:12:00] <xerxas> Volcane: rather than in my configuration description ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:12:19] <Volcane> no i advise you make classes per user and do each user that way | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:12:22] <Volcane> but u think its too much work | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:13:13] <xerxas> the point is I don't think it's too much work, I somehow find it ugly and unreadable, but I might be wrong | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:13:30] <xerxas> I can use the conv_passwd script to do that ... | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:13:43] <Volcane> each user reource has all the properties a user needs. name, password, groups etc | ||
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| [2009/12/28 12:13:57] <Volcane> and you would maybe have files or keys for each user too | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:14:13] <Volcane> a class is a grouping of resources so u can group users, files, keys etc per user in a simple named class | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:14:30] <xerxas> ok | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:14:45] <xerxas> I'm trying to create a module, but I'm wrong with that | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:14:46] <Volcane> then whenever u need user foo, you just include that and u end up with the user, keys, directories, maybe dotfile etc all done | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:14:52] <xerxas> a module is for a generic configuration | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:15:03] <xerxas> a class is for a specific configuration to my infrastrcture | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:15:13] <Volcane> a modle is a group of classes is all | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:15:27] <xerxas> ok | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:15:34] <Volcane> in my case, i have no standalone classes at all, everything is a module | ||
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| [2009/12/28 12:15:43] <xerxas> so my module directory is supposed to be in /etc/puppet/manifets/module ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:15:53] <xerxas> right now for me it's int /etc/puppet/modules | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:15:58] <Volcane> it can be anywhere | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:16:14] <xerxas> ok | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:18:00] <xerxas> I would rather not mix let's say configuration for syslog or syslogd that just needs variables to be set for hosts and that I check out from git or whatever and my own very specific configuration classes | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:18:07] <xerxas> should I use two module path ? | ||
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| [2009/12/28 12:18:24] <Volcane> xerxas: i make my modules configurable using extlookup | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:18:57] <xerxas> learning curve too steep for me ;) | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:19:46] <xerxas> I read your link about extlookup, sounds interesting to me but I need to see how things are working together | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:19:54] <xerxas> I need to learn a bit more of puppet before I think so | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:20:18] <Volcane> sure, but what you're trying to do - serperating configuration and module code - puppet sux at that | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:20:21] <Volcane> and thats why extlookup exist | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:20:39] <xerxas> ok | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:20:42] <xerxas> nice | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:20:58] <xerxas> I need to understand why it sucks in puppet than ;) | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:21:11] <xerxas> is chef better at it ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:21:57] <Volcane> puppet doesnt (yet) have hashes which is hte main hassle | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:22:06] <Volcane> 0.26 apparently will have hashes | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:23:04] <xerxas> ok | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:23:14] <xerxas> Volcane: do you contribute to puppet ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:23:33] <Volcane> not to the core, i wrote extlookup | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:23:39] <Volcane> and write lots of blog posts and such | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:24:26] <xerxas> which blogs ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:24:35] <Volcane> www.devco.net | ||
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| [2009/12/28 12:24:41] <xerxas> k | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:24:47] <xerxas> I read on article from you today ;) | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:26:20] <xerxas> nice stuff on your blog, don't understand much of it ;) | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:26:29] <Volcane> heh | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:26:35] <xerxas> anyway, thanks for your help | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:27:10] <Volcane> np | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:27:15] <bodepd> xerxas: the learning curve can be steep. we will have an open training in SF in Feb. | ||
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| [2009/12/28 12:32:17] <xerxas> Volcane: http://www.semicomplete.com/blog/geekery/puppet-manage-homedirectory-contents.html | ||
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| [2009/12/28 12:32:28] <xerxas> is this a good example of what I'm supposed to do ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:33:11] <xerxas> actually I think I didn't need of dotfiles synchronization but It might be a good thing | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:33:56] <xerxas> also, how can I mix this with sudo ? | ||
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| [2009/12/28 12:38:57] <joe-mac> not hacving the same environment on all you8r boxes is thoroughly annoying | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:39:03] <joe-mac> to each his own i guess | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:39:15] <joe-mac> but things like vim settings, gah i'd go insane if they weren't all in sync | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:40:28] <xerxas> I get used to use default vi ;) | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:41:05] <xerxas> also I'm rarerly work on server … | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:41:36] <xerxas> I prefere to work on my workstation let's say mofiy my dns zone files, version it and check it out on the server from the vcs | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:42:04] <xerxas> s/mofiy/modify/ | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:44:50] <joe-mac> yea | ||
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| [2009/12/28 12:54:25] <themurph> I'm trying to do the same thing as xerxas and everything works great except the password setup. Its a Centos 5 x86_64 client. I put the passwords in single '' and I don't see anything in the puppetmaster logs that says there's an error. But the passwords are not getting set. | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:55:00] <Volcane> themurph: do you have ruby-shadow? | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:55:16] <themurph> Oh yeah, let me check... | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:55:45] <themurph> yes, 1.4.1-7, probably out of the epel repos | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:56:51] <themurph> Looking at the type reference. I haven't set provider => useradd, do I need to do this? | ||
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| [2009/12/28 12:59:22] <xerxas> can resource be nested ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:59:25] <BarnacleBob> blargh. is there an easy way to get the target of a symlink | ||
| [2009/12/28 12:59:30] <xerxas> err, that makes no sense ? | ||
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| [2009/12/28 13:02:42] <themurph> Here's an example of the users.pp http://pastie.org/758984 , pgroup gets translated to gid in the init.pp | ||
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| [2009/12/28 13:09:04] <themurph> googling it more... ruby-shadow is installed but "ruby -rpuppet -e 'puts Puppet.features.libshadow?'" gives "false" as the output. So there must be something wrong with the package. | ||
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| [2009/12/28 13:25:02] <xerxas> themurph: how do you use your test user then ? | ||
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| [2009/12/28 13:26:17] <xerxas> how do you tell a node to include that user ? | ||
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| [2009/12/28 14:16:27] <ashp> i am reading this review on slashdot | ||
| [2009/12/28 14:16:35] <ashp> and i'm thinking 'hmm, andrew shafer sounds familiar' | ||
| [2009/12/28 14:16:38] <ashp> and then i realize why :D | ||
| [2009/12/28 14:16:50] <WALoeIII> ashp: link :o | ||
| [2009/12/28 14:17:13] <ashp> http://books.slashdot.org/story/09/12/28/1424255/Ruby-In-Practice?art_pos=1 | ||
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| [2009/12/28 14:50:24] <themurph> xerxas: http://pastie.org/759135, I took it from a public recipe but I can't remember who's. | ||
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| [2009/12/28 14:57:35] <bodepd> xerxas: define just creates a resource definition, the syntax for declaring them is the same as for resources (like file or user). | ||
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| [2009/12/28 15:09:18] <joe-mac> i should write a haiku, about why whiteboxes suck; too long | ||
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| [2009/12/28 17:14:42] <joe-mac> say i want to load a .pp file programatically so i can access resource attributes, what is the best way tod o that? | ||
| [2009/12/28 17:15:03] <Volcane> but u cant access resource attributes? | ||
| [2009/12/28 17:15:10] <Volcane> unless i just dont get what u mean | ||
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| [2009/12/28 17:15:38] <joe-mac> Volcane: i basically want to be able to figure out the comment field of ssh_authorized_key types and send out an email to the comment | ||
| [2009/12/28 17:16:15] <joe-mac> i figured i could somehow hook into the puppet code in a ruby script and use actionmailer for it. or i might be over th inking it and should do it with a shells cript | ||
| [2009/12/28 17:16:52] <Volcane> yeah | ||
| [2009/12/28 17:17:30] <joe-mac> which one do you think ? | ||
| [2009/12/28 17:18:43] <Volcane> shell :) | ||
| [2009/12/28 17:18:50] <joe-mac> k | ||
| [2009/12/28 17:20:25] * joe-mac yearns for imap | ||
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| [2009/12/28 18:06:19] <ashp_> argh i am so tired of hacked up 'if $hostname ==' statements in my puppet confs | ||
| [2009/12/28 18:06:35] <ashp_> but everything this week is emergency work and so i have to keep littering them in | ||
| [2009/12/28 18:06:46] <nevyn> beware. | ||
| [2009/12/28 18:07:41] <nevyn> emergency work can become the routine | ||
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| [2009/12/28 18:33:05] <danielbln> oh boy, does it :/ | ||
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| [2009/12/28 18:37:16] <daMaestro> how would i do: $var = '<LocationMatch ^/someregex$>'? ... I'm getting: Could not parse for environment production: Syntax error at '<'; expected '}' | ||
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| [2009/12/28 18:53:24] <\ask> hi everyone -- I can't get recursion to work; this is my config: http://gist.github.com/265040 | ||
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| [2009/12/28 18:53:37] <\ask> the directory is created, but the files I have in it are not copied over. | ||
| [2009/12/28 18:54:30] <Volcane> you're not setting recurse on the inner file resource | ||
| [2009/12/28 18:54:44] <\ask> Volcane: doh! thank you. | ||
| [2009/12/28 18:59:16] <whack> puppetd doesn't flock state/puppetdlock? | ||
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| [2009/12/28 19:04:13] <daMaestro> and, i am able to do that | ||
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| [2009/12/28 19:44:26] <eric0> whack: no it just tests for existence | ||
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| [2009/12/28 19:49:56] <whack> eric0: there's code to use flock(2) but it doesn't actually use it when checking for the lockfile | ||
| [2009/12/28 19:50:00] <whack> fail :( | ||
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| [2009/12/28 21:02:51] <Clint> http://projects.reductivelabs.com/projects/puppet/repository/revisions/5ed2e2619fc366a9ea1e1b9866da055ba0cd57aa | ||
| [2009/12/28 21:03:00] <Clint> ^ doesn't seem to fix the passenger problem for me | ||
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| [2009/12/28 21:22:13] <gusx> creating a recipe in which the puppet clients create trac files with their information, all those files will held in the trac server | ||
| [2009/12/28 21:22:44] <gusx> the only way to this appropiately is creating a nfs partition mounted on all the clients | ||
| [2009/12/28 21:22:48] <gusx> any other clue ? | ||
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| [2009/12/28 23:09:16] <PaulWay[w]> Hi all! | ||
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| [2009/12/28 23:09:45] <PaulWay[w]> I've got RHEL4 and RHEL5 boxes - is there a way I can put something in a class that only gets deployed on the RHEL4 boxes? | ||
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| [2009/12/28 23:11:58] <PaulWay[w]> I suppose I can check $operatingsystemrelease... can I say something like $operatingsystemrelease ? { 4 => file { 'foo': ...}, 5 => file {'bar': ...} } | ||
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| [2009/12/28 23:14:37] <PaulWay[w]> And is there a way of saying "After updating this file, run this command?" | ||
| [2009/12/28 23:14:42] * PaulWay[w] goes and reads the manual... | ||
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| [2009/12/28 23:19:59] <gepetto_> ::trac:: Release Notes edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ReleaseNotes?version=51 | ||
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| [2009/12/28 23:35:03] <Cyis> PaulWay[w], I believe that's what notify or subscribe should do... not 100% but somewhere to start | ||
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