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| [2010/01/12 00:03:23] <Bevo> aargh this exported tag is getting to me: i have a collected resource: @@file {"/path/to/file/$hostname": content => "${ipaddress}\n" tag => "exportedfile1"} then in the node that collects this: File <<| tag == "exportedfile1" the collected resource is in the database but the node never doesnt seem to attempt at getting the resource, however if i change it to File <<| title == '/path/to/file/server1' |>> it works fine | ||
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| [2010/01/12 02:04:14] <johnw> i've been noticing puppet 0.25.2 to be very flaky about SSL certificates recently | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:04:33] <johnw> some hosts fail to verify ever another connect attempt | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:04:43] <johnw> and hosts that I know were connecting suddenly have invalid certificates | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:04:55] <johnw> i find myself regenerating certs and restarting master daily now | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:05:54] <johnw> I get this: "Retrieved certificate does not match private key" | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:05:57] <johnw> then I run it again, and it works | ||
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| [2010/01/12 02:06:03] <johnw> run it again, it fails, then again, it works | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:06:07] <johnw> this never used to happen before | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:07:20] <ohadlevy> johnw: any chance for clock sync issues? | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:07:27] <johnw> hmmmmm | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:07:39] <johnw> never thought of that one | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:08:05] <johnw> the server that was failing just now was 82 secs behind the master | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:08:19] <ohadlevy> hmm.. thats not enought | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:08:30] <johnw> the puppetmaster was dead on | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:08:35] <johnw> and i'm running ntpd on every machine | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:10:34] <johnw> now it's failing again | ||
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| [2010/01/12 02:10:43] <johnw> and I just regenerated its certificate 5 mins ago | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:10:46] <johnw> i'll regen again | ||
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| [2010/01/12 02:14:43] <johnw> it just rejected the newly generated certificate | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:15:19] <ohadlevy> are you running as root? or as normal users? | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:15:21] <johnw> root | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:15:40] <ohadlevy> double check where it creates the certificate etc | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:15:58] <johnw> this works for several other machines in the same goup | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:16:01] <johnw> all configured identically | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:16:08] <johnw> ssl certs are in /var/lib/puppet/ssl | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:16:30] <johnw> i just signed ca/signed/abc-p1-ws-1.corp.smartceg.com.pem | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:16:38] <johnw> then I run puppetd --test on that server | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:16:49] <johnw> and then the master reject the certs I just signed | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:17:56] <johnw> maybe i didn't restart the service on the client | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:18:21] <johnw> but what puzzles me is why it went "bad" in the first place | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:19:52] <johnw> i think that was it | ||
| [2010/01/12 02:19:59] <johnw> the service in memory had a different cert cached | ||
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| [2010/01/12 03:18:57] <masterzen> johnw: hm, it is possible #2890 has introduced a subtle issue... | ||
| [2010/01/12 03:18:57] <gepetto> masterzen: johnw: #2890 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/2890 "Puppet - Bug #2890: Puppetd: signed certificate retrieval "Retrieved certificate does not match private key" - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
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| [2010/01/12 03:19:07] <johnw> ah, that sounds like it alright | ||
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| [2010/01/12 04:58:35] <fonk> hi! i'm using version 0.24.5 from debian lenny and have the problem, that my exported resource gets not realized on the host that creates this resource (host a gets resource from host b, and host b from a - but none gets both) is this a bug (couldn't find a report) or desired behaviour? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 05:31:11] <fluxdude> it appears that when using ssh_authorized_keys in puppet, it regenerates the authorized_keys file every single time?? | ||
| [2010/01/12 05:32:58] <fluxdude> is it supposed to behave like this? | ||
| [2010/01/12 05:33:36] <Volcane> you probably have the format wrong | ||
| [2010/01/12 05:33:40] <Volcane> so it gets confused | ||
| [2010/01/12 05:33:59] <fluxdude> can you please explain? | ||
| [2010/01/12 05:34:10] <Volcane> pastie one of yours | ||
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| [2010/01/12 05:35:38] <duritong> fluxdude: the key shouldn't contain 'ssh AAA' | ||
| [2010/01/12 05:35:52] <duritong> fluxdude: it should start directly with 'AA...' | ||
| [2010/01/12 05:36:07] <fluxdude> it does | ||
| [2010/01/12 05:36:17] <duritong> the behavior described happens usually if somebody adds the keytype as well into the key | ||
| [2010/01/12 05:36:23] <fluxdude> i put ssh-rsa in type => and the bit after == at the end in name => | ||
| [2010/01/12 05:36:24] <duritong> or any other string | ||
| [2010/01/12 05:36:35] <duritong> fluxdude: hmm then it should be correct | ||
| [2010/01/12 05:36:44] <fluxdude> key => starts "AAA.... and ends ==" | ||
| [2010/01/12 05:40:11] <fluxdude> using 0.24.8 | ||
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| [2010/01/12 06:02:21] <fluxdude> why does 0.25 want /modules/ in the source => path? | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:02:25] <fluxdude> surely that idea sucks | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:02:39] <fluxdude> and is pointless? | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:02:59] <fluxdude> can we get the requirement taken out from future versions? | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:03:02] <fluxdude> any devs in here? | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:03:04] <kjetilho> it simplifies the code ... | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:03:13] <fluxdude> what the ruby code? | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:03:18] <kjetilho> yeah | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:03:19] <fluxdude> who cares, it worked before... | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:03:35] <fluxdude> why re-write it to be pretty at the expensive of operability | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:03:42] <fluxdude> when the work had already been done | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:03:47] <kjetilho> it used to do loads and loads of stat(2) to find the correct path | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:03:52] <fluxdude> surely maintaining a stable interface for usage is more important? | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:04:06] <kjetilho> see first digit of version | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:04:11] <henk> lol i strongly doubt that... | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:04:13] * Volcane agrees its a pretty bad idea | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:04:44] <fluxdude> it must still do stat calls since paths will work without /modules, it will just waste cycles and storage logging warnings... | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:04:50] <duritong> the reason lays in the new rest way | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:04:56] <henk> fluxdude: what use is a stable user interface if the software behind it sucks, needs loads of processing power unnecessarily and even makes mistakes? great to have a stable user interface, right? :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:04:58] <fluxdude> henk: doubt which bit? | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:05:13] <duritong> fluxdude: without will be removed in 0.26 | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:05:32] <fluxdude> but why does it need to make lots of stat calls to make this work? | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:05:48] <fluxdude> surely it should just check module, then fileserver.conf for mount there... | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:05:54] <fluxdude> that's like 2 stat calls | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:06:05] <fluxdude> with /module it makes sure it's only 1 stat call | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:06:05] <kjetilho> fluxdude: it needs to look inside all directories in modules/* | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:06:07] <duritong> this is out of my scope | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:06:14] <kjetilho> fluxdude: fileserver?! | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:06:25] <fluxdude> but since most source => in a module oriented puppet world lands on the first, surely mostly it would stop at 1 stat call anyway? | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:06:33] <kjetilho> are anyone using fileserver still? | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:06:37] <fluxdude> nope | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:06:40] <fluxdude> exactly | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:06:49] <fluxdude> kjetilho: that's dumb. | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:07:04] <kjetilho> so it needs to check for modules/puppet/files/PATH modules/mysql/files/PATH ... | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:07:07] <fluxdude> it should only do 1 stat call to /modules/modulename/files/filename | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:07:20] <Volcane> kjetilho: i dont get it, you look if the fileservr has a matching entry (no stat needed), then you know you're looking in a module | ||
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| [2010/01/12 06:07:33] <kjetilho> eh, I'm confused | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:07:34] <kjetilho> sorry | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:07:36] <fluxdude> yeah so 1 stat call | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:07:39] <Volcane> kjetilho: and if you're looking in a module its only one place it can be | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:07:49] <kjetilho> yeah. someone send a patch! | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:07:50] <fluxdude> I thought this path was well defined | ||
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| [2010/01/12 06:08:15] <Volcane> and since it still works in the old way, it can be done | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:08:17] <fluxdude> so 1 stat call and a consistent interface with no code re-writes for newer versions and no annoying warning messages... | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:08:18] <kjetilho> but I heard it's for the REST router or something like that | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:08:35] * kjetilho didn't pay too much attention | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:08:55] * fluxdude thinks someone should watch for a dev and badger them about it when they appear | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:09:07] <duritong> fluxdude: or write a mail to -dev | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:09:25] <kjetilho> duritong is a dev! let's gang up on him! | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:09:38] <duritong> fluxdude: if you want to deprecate the old way and get rid of it, you need to introduce a warning message | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:09:44] <duritong> kjetilho: I wouldn't call me a dev | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:10:07] <Volcane> duritong: we're saying its a terrible idea to get rid of it | ||
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| [2010/01/12 06:11:12] <duritong> Volcane: getting rid of the fileserver? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 06:11:34] <kjetilho> no, the implicit "/modules" | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:11:54] <duritong> ahhh | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:12:27] <Volcane> fileserver is needed, lots of use for it | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:12:31] <fluxdude> docs says fileserver takes precedence... perhaps it's to make modules more explicit | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:12:52] <fluxdude> that way there is no clash if you drop in a module for which someone had previously define a fileserver mount | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:13:06] <fluxdude> still, I'm not sure it's worth it in a module centric world | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:13:13] <duritong> Volcane: you can do everything you do with fileserver in modules | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:13:18] <Volcane> nope | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:13:23] <duritong> what not? | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:13:56] <Volcane> if you have a multi tennant system - where a group of people manage the code and another group has the ability to modify config file for example | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:14:03] <Volcane> you want to seperate those from each other | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:14:16] <Volcane> now you could give each 3rd party a module by their name and manage it that way | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:14:17] <kjetilho> use snippet system to generate fileserver.conf :/ | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:14:48] <duritong> Volcane: you can use multiple modules and module paths | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:14:56] <Volcane> i mean as in source => ["puppet:///$client/apache.conf", "puppet:///apache/apache.conf"] etc | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:15:09] <Volcane> and what you achieve is to just give the client write access in svn whatever to their own space | ||
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| [2010/01/12 06:15:26] <Volcane> $clientc ould be a module naturally but it doesnt really always work ell | ||
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| [2010/01/12 06:16:11] <duritong> what kind of problems did you encounter? | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:16:26] <duritong> I'm just curious as switching over to a complete module based solution worked fine for me | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:17:04] <duritong> but yeah if it is a problem it should be addressed. | ||
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| [2010/01/12 06:17:11] <Volcane> companies who host 50 or 100 or 1000 clients on teh same master really run into a whole different sphere of problem than the typical single use sites | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:17:14] * duritong just wonders why nobody haven't brought it up yet | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:17:31] <Volcane> and the fileserver just makes it simpler to structure things | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:17:43] <Volcane> duritong: no1's brought it up since no1's said the fileserver is being deprecated | ||
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| [2010/01/12 06:18:45] <n0ts> Hi | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:19:02] <n0ts> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference#file is "Inline literal start-string without end-string." error. | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:20:25] <duritong> Volcane: well that's what I read out of the discussion about switching to REST, but I don't have more insights than the mailinglist | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:21:21] <Volcane> erm no i am pretty sure the fileserver will remain - it is the fileserver serving files from modules still, do you have a link? | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:21:47] <duritong> nah, pointer lost | ||
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| [2010/01/12 06:25:47] <duritong> but I think one should really better ask some real devs, not so called devs ;) | ||
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| [2010/01/12 06:56:27] <gilesw> heya puppetiers | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:57:11] <gilesw> I've just updated rubygems on some of our servers via a package update but I've got a problem with sarge | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:57:26] <gilesw> puppet runs throw this error :- undefined method `verify_mode' | ||
| [2010/01/12 06:58:27] <gilesw> ah i think it's a ruby ssl package that's on some boxes | ||
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| [2010/01/12 07:04:45] <gilesw> bit of a long shot but have any of you used the postgres-pr gem? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 07:10:06] <fluxdude> what's the best way of managing sysctl settings? How do you do yours? | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:10:21] <fluxdude> I used to have sysctl.conf and just copied that over | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:10:37] <fluxdude> it does require setting up the sysctl for each system if it differs though | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:10:56] <fluxdude> just looked at the sysctl provider and type as well | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:11:04] <henk> fluxdude: debian supports /etc/sysctl.d/ so i just drop files in there. | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:11:35] <fluxdude> henk: using centos here | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:12:39] <fluxdude> is that a debian patched modification or can you get stock sysctl to include /etc/sysctl.d or something? | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:13:05] <fluxdude> can't see that in man sysctl.conf | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:13:20] <Volcane> new versions have it | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:15:53] <fluxdude> hmmm, centos 5.4 doesn't have it yet debian stable does... | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:15:55] <fluxdude> how odd | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:16:10] <fluxdude> debian has gone stable after 5.x CentOS... | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:16:19] <fluxdude> hmmm | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:16:29] <Volcane> whats the versions? | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:16:31] <fluxdude> wonder what I should do with my CentOS boxen then... | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:16:43] <henk> fluxdude: upgrade to debian :-p | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:17:01] <fluxdude> henk: thanks, that's exactly the advice I needed ;-) | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:17:11] <fluxdude> now, back to redhat.... | ||
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| [2010/01/12 07:17:27] <henk> hrhr thought so :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:17:27] <Volcane> what version procps on the debian? | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:17:35] <fluxdude> Volcane: CentOS 5.4 initscript-8.45.30-2.el5.centos | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:17:42] <henk> Volcane: 1:3.2.7-11 | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:18:02] <fluxdude> Debian stable procps 1:3.2.7-11 | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:18:14] <ffrank> hi. i would prefer puppet to not log "info:" type messages during --test runs. can i tell puppetd to hide them? | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:18:16] <fluxdude> so not exactly comparable | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:18:32] <fluxdude> its's 2.6.18 vs 2.6.26 kernel | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:18:45] <Volcane> same versions | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:18:51] <Volcane> on redhat procps-3.2.7-11.1.el5 | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:19:05] <Volcane> so might be some debian tweak then? not sure | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:19:24] <fluxdude> hmmm, on my centos box /etc/sysctl.conf is owned by initscripts-8.45.30-2.el5.centos | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:19:24] <henk> grep sysctl.d /etc/init.d/procps? | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:20:04] <fluxdude> grep sysctl.d /etc -R returned only /etc/selinux matches | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:20:24] <henk> then it's probably a debian patch... | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:20:32] <fluxdude> Volcane: you're a centos guy, what do you do for your sysctl? | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:20:45] <Volcane> not much i hardly touch it | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:20:56] <Volcane> so copying files out is sufficient | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:21:04] <fluxdude> I would just copy the file but I think I am giong to get a range of different builds requiring different sysctls | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:21:04] <Volcane> if i had to do anything else Id just use snippets | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:21:09] <Volcane> and gain the .d functionality | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:21:20] <fluxdude> snippets? how? | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:21:53] <Volcane> http://nephilim.ml.org/~rip/puppet/concatfile/ | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:22:16] <fluxdude> I could template it, perhaps with m4 or something but the real problem is that I am going to have bunches of servers requirinnnnnngsame sysctl settings and I don't want to make copies of the files to use in source => "....sysctl.conf.$hostname" | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:22:38] <fluxdude> perhaps class inheritance and overrides for those servers to set the source differently... | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:23:06] <kjetilho> or a define with a bajillion parameters | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:24:13] @ Quit: skiold: Read error: 113 (No route to host) | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:24:22] <fluxdude> i prefer to avoid bajillion... | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:25:32] <kjetilho> better than 3 bajillion files :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:26:57] <fluxdude> oh hang on, I did this with source => ".....sysctl.conf.$machine_role" and then set $machine_role = something at top of node template | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:27:00] <fluxdude> seems ok | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:27:12] <fluxdude> will do that for now unless anyone has any better ideas | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:27:26] <kjetilho> sounds like a bajillion parameters to me ;) | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:29:00] <Volcane> u snippets as above :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:34:47] <fluxdude> ok this brings up an interesting question in terms of organization | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:34:56] <fluxdude> you have a bunch of different stuff under /etc | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:35:07] <fluxdude> do you manage it from an etc module or a module or each thing | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:35:12] <fluxdude> what about little things | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:35:15] <fluxdude> like /etc/service | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:35:22] <fluxdude> if you just want /etc/services file | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:35:31] <kjetilho> you actually add stuff to it? | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:35:35] <fluxdude> should you put it in a manifest or a module with the /etc/services | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:35:37] <fluxdude> yes | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:35:51] <Volcane> my motd for example is a motd module and other modules can call motd::register to add to it | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:36:03] <fluxdude> that's a good idea | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:36:07] <ohadlevy> volcane: yeah, i do that too | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:36:08] <fluxdude> what does motd::register do though | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:36:21] <fluxdude> why don't the other modules just include motd? | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:36:25] <ohadlevy> fluxdude: every module should have a unique meaning, not just stuff or etc | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:36:35] <Volcane> fluxdude: http://pastie.org/672499 | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:36:46] <kjetilho> I don't like snippets since they leave cruft on the node (?) | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:36:46] <Volcane> fluxdude: look at the bottom of the pastie | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:37:12] <Volcane> kjetilho: beats the alternatives and you can put that cruft all in one place easily | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:37:22] <fluxdude> oh I see what you are doing, that's quite clever | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:37:27] <kjetilho> isn't it possible to use the collect mechanism instead somehow? | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:37:34] <Volcane> doubt it | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:38:19] <Volcane> i was just going to move all the snippets to /some/dir/etc_named.conf/* for example | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:38:33] <Volcane> for /etc/named.conf so at least they're all in one place out of the way | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:38:38] <Volcane> easy now tht we have regex | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:40:04] <fluxdude> Volcane: did you basically write your own concat or did you get it from somewhere? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 07:40:24] <Volcane> fluxdude: i pasted the url above | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:40:36] <Volcane> fluxdude: http://nephilim.ml.org/~rip/puppet/concatfile/ | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:41:19] <fluxdude> yeah I saw that, ok what I mean is did you write that or just find it and think it was a good idea? | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:41:28] <fluxdude> seems like a workaround to something that is missing from puppet | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:41:41] <fluxdude> not sure I want to venture off the beaten track and introduce dependencies | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:42:18] <Volcane> i wrote it | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:42:25] <fluxdude> I did this one with custom defines to set commonly used things in configfiles and then found out when I was porting my code to a new environment that I didn't like the lack of portability and undid it all back to the standard way | ||
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| [2010/01/12 07:43:14] <fluxdude> it prevents modules from being droppable into a new puppet environment because you have to take the custom extension as well which lives outside of the puppet module, making the module no longer self contained | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:43:24] <Volcane> would be nice if it was a puppet type to do t, but this was quicker anyway | ||
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| [2010/01/12 07:47:32] <metabaronen> hi all :-) Just a question... is there any way to get puppet to run faster on the clients | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:47:56] <metabaronen> it takes around 30 seconds if the clinent is in sync | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:48:29] <FiXion> metabaronen: which version? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 07:48:45] <FiXion> metabaronen: 0.25.* has seen significant performance improvements in some regards | ||
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| [2010/01/12 07:48:55] <metabaronen> puppet --version 0.24.8 | ||
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| [2010/01/12 07:49:11] <metabaronen> distributed in Kamic | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:49:14] <kjetilho> 30 seconds? I *dream* of quick runs like that | ||
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| [2010/01/12 07:50:18] <metabaronen> Well... I have had some slower timings before I reconfigured the puppetmaster with a loadbalancer ;-) | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:50:30] <ohadlevy> metabaronen: do you know what takes the most time? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 07:50:55] <kjetilho> file {} with recurse is *really* slow, esp. in 0.24 | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:51:16] <metabaronen> it seems random... it can be loading custom facts (I have 4) | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:51:30] <ohadlevy> try running with --summarize | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:51:34] <metabaronen> not complicated... 5 rows each | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:52:38] <ffrank> heh. lines of code != complexity | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:53:11] <ohadlevy> ffrank: yeah, esp with a nice language like ruby | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:53:21] <metabaronen> well... reading a files contants and and returning the value | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:54:26] <metabaronen> humm... File: 31:49 when running with summarize | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:54:49] <metabaronen> and config retreival is 17.53 | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:56:17] <ohadlevy> metabaronen: you might use some tags or schedules not to run everything every run | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:56:50] <metabaronen> humm?... got link? | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:57:53] <ohadlevy> wiki: typereference | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:58:03] <metabaronen> thanks | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:58:11] <ohadlevy> wiki:TypeReference | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:58:16] <gepetto> ohadlevy: wiki: wiki:TypeReference is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/TypeReference | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:58:36] <fluxdude> yeah look at fixing your puppetmaster to be quicker or load balancing the file serving bit out or something | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:59:16] <ohadlevy> fluxdude: it might also be something like latency (which is a bit hard to fix) | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:59:29] <metabaronen> I have configured the puppetmaster with mongrel and apache loadbalancer | ||
| [2010/01/12 07:59:53] <ohadlevy> fluxdude: I saw you were asking about other external nodes classifier, any issues with Foreman? | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:01:08] <fluxdude> no, I was just wondering what people were using | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:01:26] <fluxdude> I am using cobbler at the moment so I don't need foreman as much as it's a provisioning tool as well | ||
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| [2010/01/12 08:01:33] <fluxdude> just wanted to know what the options are | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:01:37] <fluxdude> for external node tools | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:01:49] <ohadlevy> fluxdude: many people use it for reports | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:01:53] <ohadlevy> and inventory | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:02:01] <fluxdude> hmm, it's on the todo list | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:02:06] <fluxdude> will look at it when I get time | ||
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| [2010/01/12 08:03:17] <mapa3m> Hi | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:03:25] <mapa3m> Is there a way to use regex in puppet case statements? | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:04:06] <ffrank> wiki:LanguageTutorial | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:04:07] <gepetto> ffrank: wiki: wiki:LanguageTutorial is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/LanguageTutorial | ||
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| [2010/01/12 08:04:23] <ffrank> mapa3m: it should be in there | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:05:23] <mapa3m> Thanks | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:05:32] <fluxdude> mapa3m: note 0.25 only though | ||
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| [2010/01/12 08:10:43] <ohadlevy> telmo:ping | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:12:26] <ohadlevy> volcane: any news on extlookup integration ? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 08:14:52] <Volcane> no not sure whats up with Julian afaik he's been distracting sending in a talk proposal for velocity | ||
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| [2010/01/12 08:18:13] <robinbowes> Hey ohadlevy | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:18:18] <ohadlevy> hey | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:18:31] <metabaronen> Btw... does anyone know if its possible to add custom variables from a database for each client? | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:18:48] <robinbowes> Not sure if this is a foreman issue... | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:19:00] <robinbowes> I'm using a script to query the puppet DB | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:19:07] <robinbowes> And it's stopped working. | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:19:27] <ohadlevy> puppet DB == foreman db? | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:19:31] <robinbowes> Yes | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:20:00] <robinbowes> puppet 0.25.3 ??? | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:20:14] <ohadlevy> what does your script do? | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:20:43] * robinbowes will pastebin... | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:20:45] <Volcane> robinbowes: fixes regression on old ruby | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:20:53] <robinbowes> CentOS 5.4? | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:21:02] <Volcane> no | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:21:05] <robinbowes> OK | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:21:08] <robinbowes> Not urgent then | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:21:23] <robinbowes> Gah, no pastebin url in /topic | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:21:27] <ohadlevy> use pastie.org or gist I hate the lack of syntax highlighting with pastebin :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:21:34] <Volcane> +1 | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:21:48] <robinbowes> Put pastie.org in /topic please | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:22:13] <robinbowes> I get into the habit of looking in /topic to see which pastebin is preferred in #channel | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:22:33] <robinbowes> http://pastie.org/774772 | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:23:13] <robinbowes> Working fine for ages; now no workie | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:25:16] <robinbowes> Hmm, foreman doesn't list any classes either | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:25:26] <robinbowes> (under YAML) | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:25:51] @ rsquared-out is now known as rsquared | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:28:15] <ohadlevy> robinbowes: foreman has a simple puppetclass table | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:28:20] <ohadlevy> try running the script/console | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:28:27] <ohadlevy> and type Puppetclass.count | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:30:24] @ Quit: danielbln: "Leaving." | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:30:26] <robinbowes> => 0 | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:30:29] <ohadlevy> btw: you can do it in a oneliner ;) | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:30:43] <robinbowes> I did RAILS_ENV=production ./script/console | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:30:47] @ Quit: alban2: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:30:56] <robinbowes> So, no classes. | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:31:51] <ohadlevy> what are you trying to do with this script? | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:32:15] <robinbowes> I use it to enumerate hosts in various deploy scripts | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:32:32] <robinbowes> eg. sc_hosts.rb --class profile::partition | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:32:38] <robinbowes> List all partition servers | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:32:45] <robinbowes> sc_hosts.rb --class profile::partition::master | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:32:55] <robinbowes> List just partition masters | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:32:56] <ohadlevy> did you see the query interface? | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:33:08] <robinbowes> For Foreman? | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:33:10] <ohadlevy> maybe would simplify it for you (and you can also uses facts) | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:33:13] <ohadlevy> yes | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:33:16] <robinbowes> No | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:33:37] <ohadlevy> http://theforeman.org/wiki/foreman/Query_Interface | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:33:44] <robinbowes> I'm not desperately looking to re-facter this right now - just want to get the script working | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:34:18] <ohadlevy> in the same console, can you type: | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:34:50] <ohadlevy> Resource.find_by_restype_and_title("Class","yourclassname") | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:35:05] @ Quit: jab_doa: "Verlassend" | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:35:12] <robinbowes> nil | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:36:05] <ohadlevy> so you dont have values in your db :( | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:36:13] <robinbowes> Hmmm | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:36:19] <ohadlevy> Resource.count? | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:36:31] <robinbowes> 84 | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:36:37] <ohadlevy> thats not too many | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:37:25] <ohadlevy> Resource.find_all_by_restype("Class").count | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:37:44] <robinbowes> NoMethodError: undefined method `count' for #<Array:0x2b5b97443b58> | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:37:44] <robinbowes> from (irb):2 | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:38:00] <ohadlevy> s/count/size | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:38:12] <robinbowes> 21 | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:38:30] <ohadlevy> so you have 21 classes in the db | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:38:45] <robinbowes> I would expect more than that | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:39:58] <ohadlevy> Resource.find_all_by_restype("Class").map{|r| r.host.name} | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:40:29] <ohadlevy> those would be the hosts that has values | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:40:55] <robinbowes> That pretty much lists all my hosts | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:41:01] <robinbowes> ie. I have 21 hosts | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:43:01] <ohadlevy> and you have one class per host? | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:43:14] <robinbowes> no | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:43:21] <ohadlevy> ah, did you switch to thin_storeconfigs? | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:44:19] <robinbowes> I don't think so - not deliberately | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:44:30] <ohadlevy> foreman does not update this part of the db, its purely puppet storeconfigs | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:44:45] <robinbowes> I have two puppet hosts - one still works, the other doesn't | ||
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| [2010/01/12 08:47:47] <Telmo> morning | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:47:57] <robinbowes> Can I re-import the classes, etc? | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:48:36] <ohadlevy> yes | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:49:15] <ohadlevy> rake puppet:import:puppet_classes RAILS_ENV=production | ||
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| [2010/01/12 08:49:42] <ohadlevy> robinbowes: but it does not assign them to nodes | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:49:57] <robinbowes> Can I reimport that too? | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:49:58] <robinbowes> :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:50:03] <ohadlevy> are you using external nodes? | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:50:09] <robinbowes> Yes - from cobbler | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:50:15] <ohadlevy> then yes :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:50:34] <ohadlevy> http://theforeman.org/wiki/foreman/External_Nodes#Import-your-external-node-setup-from-an-older-external-node-setup | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:50:50] <Telmo> Ohadlevy: I couldn't get flomatic to work without breaking half the functionality in foreman | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:51:06] <ohadlevy> telmo: what did it break? | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:51:14] <ohadlevy> telmo: did the audit fix was working? | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:51:22] <Telmo> everything JS related lol | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:51:44] <Telmo> I didn't try the audit fix yet | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:52:16] <Telmo> also Flomatic is similar to google charts, just JS | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:52:31] <ohadlevy> i thought it can do zoom in and stuff | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:52:34] <ohadlevy> highlight etc | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:52:57] <robinbowes> Damn, still not working | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:53:37] <ohadlevy> ronbinbowes: that will just import the data to foreman, it will not fill in the resource table (which is what storeconfig is about) | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:54:00] <robinbowes> OK, so should things get fixed when puppet runs? | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:54:03] <ohadlevy> if you use foreman query interface, it might work for you, but I guess you should find out why storeconfig stopped working :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:54:13] <Telmo> Ohadlevy: that you can do | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:54:26] <ohadlevy> telmo, so what are you missing? | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:54:59] <Telmo> in OFC when you mouse over a dot it gives you the exact value of that dot instead of having to figure out by the grid :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:55:06] <Telmo> its just a preference I guess | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:55:10] <Telmo> I find it more usefull | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:55:57] <robinbowes> Hmm, I wonder if this is relevant: | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:55:58] <robinbowes> rake puppet:import:external_nodes script=/path/to/old_external_node_script RAILS_ENV=production | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:56:00] <robinbowes> Ooops | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:56:06] <robinbowes> 2010-01-12_13:36:01.90551 warning: Value of 'preferred_serialization_format' (pson) is invalid for report, using default (b64_zlib_yaml) | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:57:25] <ohadlevy> telmo: according to the docs its possible | ||
| [2010/01/12 08:57:44] <ohadlevy> telmo: http://www.reynoldsftw.com/2009/02/6-jquery-chart-plugins-reviewed/ | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:01:22] <fsweetser> ohadlevy: just got a foreman crash trying to view a report | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:01:26] <fsweetser> http://pastebin.ca/1748262 | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:02:20] <ohadlevy> fsweetser: I've seen it before, but couldnt not understand the cause of it, mainly because i think the report arrived without those parts in it :( | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:02:44] <fsweetser> an incomplete report would be consistent with that crash | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:02:54] <fsweetser> let me dig into the db and see if there are obvious chunks missing... | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:03:03] <ohadlevy> fsweetser: do you use store as well? | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:03:19] <ohadlevy> if you do, you might be able to see the yaml file | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:03:28] <Telmo> http://www.ejschart.com/examples/basics/lineChart.html <-- this is cool... too bad is not foss | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:04:12] <fsweetser> ohadlevy: yes | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:04:54] <ohadlevy> fsweetser: maybe that can provide a bit of a clue where the problem is | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:05:16] <fsweetser> the reports table looks good, with a chunk of yaml content in the log column | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:05:33] <ohadlevy> fsweetser: the missing values are the metrics | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:05:39] <ohadlevy> according to your error | ||
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| [2010/01/12 09:06:31] <fsweetser> where should I look for the report yaml? | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:06:41] <robinbowes> Volcane: you told me something about the serialization format warning? | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:07:01] <ohadlevy> /var/lib/puppet/reports/hostname/timeindex | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:07:18] <ohadlevy> robinbowes: I dont think its related | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:07:26] <ohadlevy> Telmo: so back to flash? :( | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:07:33] <Telmo> no | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:07:42] <Telmo> I am looking into a few alternatives right now | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:07:48] <Telmo> promising ones | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:08:13] <fsweetser> ohadlevy: that's empty for me... | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:08:42] <ohadlevy> fsweetser: in your puppetmaster puppet.conf, do you have report= store,..foreman? | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:09:19] <fsweetser> I don't have store in the list, no | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:09:33] <fsweetser> I was able to pull out the yaml from the db, though, if that helps at all | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:09:44] <ohadlevy> ah, so we dont have a report to compare :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:10:22] <ohadlevy> fsweetser: I suspect that the report arrived to foreman without some of the fields... so what ever is in the db is simply missing those fields | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:10:29] <fsweetser> aha! | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:10:45] <fsweetser> the last line of the yaml from the db is "- !rub", which looks to me like something is truncating the field | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:10:52] <ohadlevy> hmm | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:11:04] <ohadlevy> what is the size of the text field? | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:11:26] <fsweetser> 65536 chars | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:11:35] <robinbowes> Aha! Fixed it | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:11:48] <fsweetser> sounds supicious, doesn't it? =) | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:12:14] <ohadlevy> yep :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:12:27] <ohadlevy> i guess thats the db size limit for text column | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:12:38] <fsweetser> looking that up now | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:12:40] <ohadlevy> now there are two options | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:12:57] <ohadlevy> if we have so many reports, do we really want to store everything? (maybe the metrics would be enough) | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:13:17] <fsweetser> personally I prefer storing the full reports | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:13:38] <ohadlevy> fsweetser: did you see my work on the playaround branch? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 09:13:44] <fsweetser> nope | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:16:06] <ohadlevy> fsweetser: the text field depends on the db backend you use... | ||
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| [2010/01/12 09:16:58] <fsweetser> that would explain why so far, all I can find is that a limit exists, but nothing about what that limit actually is | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:17:37] <fsweetser> ah, here we are | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:17:46] <fsweetser> yep, a simple text column is 64k | ||
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| [2010/01/12 09:18:03] <fsweetser> alternatively, mediumtext is 16M, or longtext is 4G | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:18:11] <ohadlevy> on mysql? | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:18:45] <fsweetser> yep | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:19:06] <fsweetser> let me try making the column a mediumtext, and see if that helps with other large reports | ||
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| [2010/01/12 09:21:38] <ohadlevy> fsweetser: I actually started with that, but a few people complained about it with sqlite and oracle | ||
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| [2010/01/12 09:21:49] <ohadlevy> fsweetser: now i remember why i did that - http://theforeman.org/issues/show/11 | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:21:50] <joe-mac> anybody know when the .25.anything debs will be available on ftp.ubuntu? | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:22:10] <robinbowes> So, the problem was that puppetmaster had b0rken. | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:22:16] <joe-mac> i actually want a dsc file that will build it cleanly | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:22:42] <robinbowes> It was still running, but reporting: | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:22:42] <ohadlevy> robinbowes: that is a problem :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:22:45] <robinbowes> Jan 12 14:08:38 b001 puppetmasterd[20834]: Compiled catalog for b001.private.b.statcounter.com in 0.01 seconds | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:23:08] <robinbowes> As opposed to the more correct: | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:23:10] <robinbowes> Compiled catalog for b001.private.b.statcounter.com in 5.87 seconds | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:23:18] <ohadlevy> robinbowes: its not broken, it sounds like you external node is broken | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:23:40] <robinbowes> So, puppet on the nodes was getting an empty catalogue, and reporting that the node had no classes | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:24:05] <robinbowes> It starts working again when I restart puppetmaster | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:24:08] <fsweetser> ohadlevy: ah, the joys of almost-but-not-quite-standard mysql SQL =) | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:24:31] <fsweetser> anyway, making it mediumtext does indeed fix it for me - regenerating the same report worked this time | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:24:33] <robinbowes> I've seen this before, but have no idea what's causing it | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:25:13] <ohadlevy> fsweetser: restart foreman and make sure it does, I think you'll get an error on the serialzation | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:25:57] <ohadlevy> robinbowes: does your external nodes work? | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:26:04] <fsweetser> okay, any particular operation I should try to test it? | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:26:31] <ohadlevy> import a new report :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:27:16] <fsweetser> okay, kicking it off now | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:27:24] <robinbowes> Hmm, it should return a list of classes, right? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 09:28:46] <fsweetser> ohadlevy: looks like everything worked | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:28:49] <robinbowes> OK, that's working | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:29:10] <fsweetser> maybe it's dependent on ar version? | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:30:04] <ohadlevy> fsweetser: as far as i can remember, rails would not save the report into non text fields, maybe it just reads from db/schema.rb and dont care about the db | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:30:17] <fsweetser> wouldn't surprise me | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:30:19] <ohadlevy> so it might fail if db/schema.rb is modified | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:30:56] <fsweetser> I need to run right now, let me know if you need me to do any testing on this | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:31:32] <ohadlevy> fsweetser: thanks for your help so far :) if you have time, I would be happy for some feedback about the playaround branch | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:31:51] <fsweetser> will it require any db modifications? | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:32:23] <ohadlevy> dont think so | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:32:29] <ohadlevy> do you use edge or master? | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:32:35] <fsweetser> uh, edge, I think | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:32:43] <ohadlevy> than 99% no changes | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:33:12] <fsweetser> cool | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:33:18] <fsweetser> I'll try to get some time and let you know | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:33:21] <ohadlevy> thanks | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:33:26] <fsweetser> no prob | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:34:34] <ohadlevy> yeah, I just double checked and no db is changed :) | ||
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| [2010/01/12 09:42:58] <Telmo> Ohadlevy: is there a way to change Foreman to use group of classes instead of individual classes in the drag and drop? I have a default node that includes 12 classes, and I have to assign those manually to every hosts in Foreman :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:43:27] <ohadlevy> telmo: you mean the hostgroup ? ;) | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:43:59] <Telmo> that may work :D | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:43:59] <ohadlevy> http://theforeman.org/wiki/foreman/External_Nodes#Host-Groups | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:44:39] <Telmo> humm... but if a hosts is part of a host group.. the individual classes are still listed right? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 09:45:11] <ohadlevy> you can have a mix if thats what you are asking? | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:45:15] <Telmo> that's what I am trying to avoid... we have some... "thick" people and I would rather avoid any chances of screwing up | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:46:10] <Telmo> I guess that what I am asking for is Foreman to be smart enough to realize that this hosts belongs ot this hostgroup so this classes should not show in the class list | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:46:13] <ohadlevy> that means you want to disallow some people from editing hosts? | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:46:30] <ohadlevy> ah, to remove the hosts which are already included in the group? | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:47:03] <Telmo> to remove the classes that are already in the host group form selection by the members of the host group | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:48:00] <ohadlevy> telmo: yeah, that will happen once i start to add the logic to the edit form, other stuff as well.. e.g. only the classes which are in your env | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:48:21] <Telmo> hostgroup "prod" has class puppet, a member of hostgroup "prod" shouldn't have puppet shown as one of the classes that can be added to it | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:48:24] <Telmo> ok | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:49:30] <ohadlevy> telmo: thats one of my main motivations to get rid of AS | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:50:33] <Telmo> yay! no more AS | ||
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| [2010/01/12 09:59:14] <fluxdude> I've just realized, when using service enable => true... what runlevels does it enable it at?? | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:59:16] <fluxdude> default? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 09:59:33] <fluxdude> cos on rhel systems this may include 2 which you don't really want for a lot of services... | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:59:47] <Volcane> whatever the rc script specifies | ||
| [2010/01/12 09:59:54] <fluxdude> maybe just the current runlevel would be best | ||
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| [2010/01/12 10:01:32] <fluxdude> nope | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:01:47] <fluxdude> I disabled xinetd, ran puppet, it renabled it at 2345 even though init script says 345 | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:02:16] <Volcane> ah thats not right then | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:02:56] <Volcane> though looking at the code it doesnt specify runlevels | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:03:00] <Volcane> it just relies on chkconfig to do the right thing | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:03:06] <fluxdude> but then chkconfig xinetd off; chkconfig xinetd on; chkconfig --list xinetd | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:03:11] <fluxdude> also results in 2345 | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:03:18] <fluxdude> so maybe this isn't puppet's faul? | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:03:20] <fluxdude> fault | ||
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| [2010/01/12 10:03:29] <fluxdude> interesting | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:03:33] <Volcane> my centos 5.4 does the right thing with xinetd | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:03:40] <Volcane> xinetd 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:03:55] <fluxdude> did you do the chkconfig line above? | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:04:04] <Volcane> puppet | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:04:11] <kjetilho> I seem to recall some grumbling about Puppet should be doing chkconfig --add first | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:04:27] <fluxdude> yeah but it might have already been set to 345 | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:04:40] <fluxdude> what it the output of chkconfig xinetd off; chkconfig xinetd on; chkconfig --list xinetd | ||
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| [2010/01/12 10:05:20] <Volcane> xinetd 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:05:21] <Volcane> hmm | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:05:26] <fluxdude> exactly | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:05:32] <kjetilho> Volcane: did you try --remove and then --add | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:05:33] <kjetilho> ? | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:05:44] <fluxdude> so if it was off and puppet came along, you now have it in runlevel 2 | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:05:44] <fluxdude> which is a mistake | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:05:45] <kjetilho> --del it is | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:05:53] <Volcane> yeah thats not good | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:05:56] <Volcane> chkconfig is broken | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:06:25] <kjetilho> "By default, the on and off options affect only runlevels 2, 3, 4, and 5," | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:06:25] <fluxdude> --del/--add sets it to the right thing | ||
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| [2010/01/12 10:06:59] <fluxdude> so the grumbles about --del/--add might be justified | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:07:36] <fluxdude> combination of chkconfig defaulting to 2345, not respecting the levels set in init script and puppet not being able to specify levels leaves this a bit imperfect | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:07:59] <kjetilho> it seems you should use --add instead of "on", but "off" to disable. | ||
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| [2010/01/12 10:08:03] <Volcane> reset fixes it, thats not great | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:08:21] <fluxdude> reset? you mean --del/-add? | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:08:28] <Volcane> chkconfig xinetd reset | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:08:41] <ctso> is there a way to grab the latest 0.25.x branch from github for development? | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:09:00] <fluxdude> oh | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:09:00] <kjetilho> chkconfig's behaviour is certainly not *intuitive* | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:09:19] <fluxdude> chkconfig needs fixing, puppet needs the ability to specify levels | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:09:58] <fluxdude> puppet should get the ability to specify runlevels anyway | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:10:04] <fluxdude> it may be useful | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:10:19] <fluxdude> can't believe nobody ever thought to add this? | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:10:54] <fluxdude> can't believe I've written so many puppet manifests using this and not stopped to think about which runlevels it was setting it at as long as it was set to start at boot | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:11:14] <Volcane> there's a ticket asking for it i think | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:13:15] <kjetilho> fluxdude: I think most people just stick to using two run-levels: single-user and the other one (which could be 2 or 3, it doesn't matter) | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:13:32] <fluxdude> yeah | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:14:02] <fluxdude> it's only a problem if you boot in to runlevel 2 on any redhat style machine, there is no network and all these services fail horribly | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:14:25] <fluxdude> still, would be nice to say, start only on runlevel 3 or 2 or whatever you use | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:14:28] <kjetilho> it would be nice to have a run-level with host networking and ssh but no services. but that'd need a lot of retooling of distro init scripts | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:14:30] <fluxdude> not a bit deal I guess | ||
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| [2010/01/12 10:25:03] <fluxdude> is it possible to unset a resource that has been set? | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:25:23] <fluxdude> i'm inheriting a class and want to remove a resource from that class... (it's a tidy) | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:27:23] <joe-mac> fluxdude: Tidy["name"] { ensure => "absent" } | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:28:30] <fluxdude> joe-mac: will that actually prevent the tidy from the parent class from working? | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:29:00] <joe-mac> it should | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:29:28] <fluxdude> I can't see that in the metaparameter or type references | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:29:40] <fluxdude> didn't know tidy had an ensure attrib | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:29:50] <fluxdude> type reference doesn't seem to think so... | ||
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| [2010/01/12 10:30:55] <fluxdude> joe-mac: thanks will try it out | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:31:01] <FiXion> can I make a client run f.ex. ldap::client - even though it's not assigned to it? | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:31:02] <joe-mac> ensure is a metaparameter | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:31:19] <FiXion> something like running puppetd -t --loadclasses ldap::client ? | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:31:39] <joe-mac> actually it isn't, i just assumed it was | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:31:57] <joe-mac> if that doesn't work fluxdude, try overriding and setting noop to true | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:32:46] <fluxdude> ah yes I was looking at noop just this morning, thanks for the reminder! | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:33:28] <joe-mac> np | ||
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| [2010/01/12 10:34:58] <fluxdude> joe-mac: that ensure seemed to work | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:35:01] <fluxdude> thanks! | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:35:09] <joe-mac> np | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:36:21] <fluxdude> ah, even when I comment out the tidy override, it doesn't tidy it... interesting... | ||
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| [2010/01/12 10:39:58] <joe-mac> probably the wrong type, like ctime whatever | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:41:15] <fluxdude> interesting, when including both the class with the tidy and the inheriting class, Tidy.. ensure => absent allows tidy and creation to keep cycling and flipping from one run to another, but noop actually suppresses this and prints a message about it being a noop every time | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:41:56] <fluxdude> I wonder if there is a way to do it without generating a log on every run, something like 'del Tidy["blah"]' in the subclass... | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:43:32] <fluxdude> maybe that's just because of --test which enables --verbose | ||
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| [2010/01/12 10:50:46] <fluxdude> doesn't get output normally it seems... | ||
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| [2010/01/12 10:59:09] <ashp> hmm, my boss likes throwing in complicated requirements to puppet that require me to redo everything | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:59:19] <ashp> previously i kept our development servers as identical to production as possible | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:59:36] <Volcane> sounds like all the problems you have is related to th tail wagging the dog | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:59:37] <ashp> but now suddenly that's all changed and i have to be able to deploy both production and development boxes with radically different configurations :( | ||
| [2010/01/12 10:59:49] <ashp> also apparently we have to be able to offer every application as a 'service' | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:00:00] <ashp> we're a university, why do we get involved in these nightmares | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:00:15] <ashp> so i have to be able to deploy multiple nagios servers on a whim, as well as multiple splunk servers | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:00:27] <ashp> i don't think my boss understands just how fundementally different this is | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:01:35] <Volcane> welcome to my world :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:02:01] <Volcane> hosting/building startups like i do i tend to need each module be a building block and every box tend to have a weird mix of blocks | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:02:48] <ashp> yeah, that's basically the shift i'm going to have to take | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:03:04] <ashp> i guess eventually i'll have to ditch including classes on nodes but do almost everything in defines | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:03:26] <Volcane> erm, why? | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:03:29] <ashp> and have stuff like splunk::server{"type": owner => "hls"} or something | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:03:31] <ashp> to make life easier for me | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:03:52] <ashp> otherwise I end up with like 19 classes i can potentially include and it gets messy | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:03:59] <ashp> i mean we have 6 ldap server 'types' already | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:04:18] <Volcane> need to write your modules with configurable knobs to turn them into different types | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:04:30] <Volcane> and set those knobs through a node classifer as variables or through something like extlookup | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:04:38] <ashp> hmm, I had been moving away from that towards using defines | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:04:46] <ashp> that's probably because i'm still living in the past with nodes.pp | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:04:52] <ashp> i don't even know what extlookup is | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:05:22] <Volcane> ashp: http://www.devco.net/archives/2009/08/31/complex_data_and_puppet.php | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:05:54] <ashp> right now i'm fistfighting 'rhythmyx' after my boss made me move the server to a subnet that cannot access any of the resources it relies on, like nfs and ldap | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:06:19] <ashp> Volcane: oh this looks nice, I DO have a ton of case or if statements littered around | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:06:39] <Volcane> integrating into foreman | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:06:49] <Volcane> ohadlevy's done his bit already | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:07:01] <ashp> that's cool as I want to move towards using foreman as well, so that's handy :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:07:03] <Volcane> well i doubt there's UI for it yet | ||
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| [2010/01/12 11:07:29] <Volcane> but all my service style modles just load variables from extlookup | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:07:31] <ashp> I eventually hope to use foreman as my node classifer, it's on the list of stuff | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:07:47] <Volcane> so i can configure the module behaviours using the flexibility of extlookup | ||
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| [2010/01/12 11:08:48] <ashp> I think I'll test that out on the module that I now have to change significantly due to this move to another subnet | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:08:54] <ashp> so I don't have to turn it into a define | ||
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| [2010/01/12 11:14:38] <Telmo> Ohadlevy: ping | ||
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| [2010/01/12 11:17:28] <Tormentum> anyone here using suse? looking into using puppet, just curious what you guys were using, like do you use a combo of autoyast and puppet when deploying new servers? | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:18:25] <Volcane> donno autoyast but the basic approach most ppl take is to use a provisioning tool to build a barebones base box on the lan | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:18:28] <Volcane> and then puppet for the rest | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:18:40] <Volcane> this ensures evertying you change is in puppet and can be managed late on | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:19:02] <Tormentum> so just build a "Standard" image and clone that and then use puppet to make any changes? | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:19:52] <Volcane> yeah well it seems mostly people build from scratch with pxe boots and their Distro installer | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:19:55] <Volcane> but cloning works too | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:20:31] <KarlHungus> i switched to cloning. it works well | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:20:34] <Tormentum> ok yeah, that's what i was wondering, if I was going to build the sytems then I'd want to incorporate autoyast | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:21:15] <Tormentum> KarlHungus: do you just give all of the servers the same size system disks or something? | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:21:54] <KarlHungus> Tormentum: i have an image for 32 and 64 bit installs using smp and non smp. so i have 4 base images. | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:22:06] <KarlHungus> each has a 12G disk, but i can resize in vmware before the first boot | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:22:27] <Tormentum> oh, lvm i guess? | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:22:29] <KarlHungus> so i just clone and set the hostname then run puppet once | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:22:36] <KarlHungus> just ext3 | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:23:03] <Volcane> i like kickstarting, its really quick and you can include your updates repo etc at install time but i guess had i a single big virtual environment cloning would be the way to go | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:23:38] <KarlHungus> Volcane: yeah. if i had a large network that was spread out i would use kickstart/cobbler/etc | ||
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| [2010/01/12 11:31:55] <Volcane> `. | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:32:32] <Volcane> oops | ||
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| [2010/01/12 11:43:25] <nDuff> Has behavior regarding puppetdlock changed in recent-ish versions? I'm seeing it empty (not containing a PID). | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:43:54] * nDuff vastly prefers flock or ioctl-based locking to traditional pidfiles, but has some code which assumed puppetdlock to be the latter. | ||
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| [2010/01/12 11:44:23] <Volcane> afaik puppetd --disable puts it there without a pid | ||
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| [2010/01/12 11:50:06] <nDuff> hrm; the way I read Puppet::Util::Pidlock and Puppet::Agent::Locker, locks are now unconditionally anonymous -- thus, no PIDs | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:50:35] <Volcane> observing my puppetd behaviour tells me 1) run in progress - locked with pid 2) disabled locked without pid | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:51:09] <nDuff> WORKSFORME. | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:52:10] <KarlHungus> ok. this is getting really annoying =) i need to be able to specify mode/owner/group for exported nagios resources using target | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:53:05] <KarlHungus> the refreshonly exec i have written simply doesn't work as expected because it isn't always the last resource processed. often this makes the nagios service refresh fail because it cannot read all of its conf files. | ||
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| [2010/01/12 11:53:57] <fsweetser> can you set default file properties in the right context? | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:54:22] <KarlHungus> fsweetser: not that i'm aware of | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:54:30] <fsweetser> it might be worth a try | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:54:56] <KarlHungus> how would i do that? i must be misunderstanding what you are saying | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:55:20] <fsweetser> are you familiar with how to set default parameters for a type? | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:55:25] <Volcane> KarlHungus: refreshonly execs will run after al things thats going to notify it | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:56:34] <KarlHungus> Volcane: right. so if my files notify=>[Exec["fix_nagios_perms"], Service["nagios"]], then half the time the service tries to restart before the perms are repaired | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:56:54] <Volcane> KarlHungus: set the exec before => Service["nagios"] | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:57:12] <Volcane> KarlHungus: notifying doesnt respect the order of notifies, it just ensure that it happens after the thing that notified | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:57:29] <KarlHungus> Volcane: right, i wasn't aware i could specify the order | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:57:44] <Volcane> u have before/require/notify/subscribe | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:57:50] <KarlHungus> fsweetser: the nagios_* types don't have a param to set mode/owner/group | ||
| [2010/01/12 11:57:57] <Volcane> those are the only ways to influence order | ||
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| [2010/01/12 12:08:48] <dbristow> How does "ensure => running" work for a service? Does it just ps -ef and grep? | ||
| [2010/01/12 12:08:50] <ashp> Volcane: hmm, where'd you have those activemq rpms again? | ||
| [2010/01/12 12:08:57] <ashp> it's time to start rolling this out | ||
| [2010/01/12 12:09:12] <dbristow> Does it do /etc/init.d/{service} status"? | ||
| [2010/01/12 12:09:23] <fsweetser> dbristow: it depends | ||
| [2010/01/12 12:09:35] <fsweetser> check out the type reference page in the wiki, it talks about it there | ||
| [2010/01/12 12:09:39] <dbristow> Ahh. | ||
| [2010/01/12 12:10:22] <Volcane> ashp: http://www.marionette-collective.org/activemq/ plenty of reference on how to setup activemq on my blog and the wiki pages | ||
| [2010/01/12 12:10:46] <ashp> aha, got the link | ||
| [2010/01/12 12:10:49] <ashp> do i need the tanukiwrapper? | ||
| [2010/01/12 12:10:53] <ashp> i don't even know what tanuki is | ||
| [2010/01/12 12:11:23] <Volcane> its used by the rc scripts | ||
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| [2010/01/12 12:21:38] <ashp> quick question | ||
| [2010/01/12 12:21:47] <ashp> i installed mcollective and there is no client.cfg, just server.cfg | ||
| [2010/01/12 12:21:51] <ashp> should I just make one? | ||
| [2010/01/12 12:21:58] <ashp> as it says 'tweak some confs in client.cfg' | ||
| [2010/01/12 12:22:10] <ashp> and all that stuff is in server.cfg :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 12:22:24] <Volcane> you didnt install the client rpm | ||
| [2010/01/12 12:23:34] <ashp> oh, server needs both? | ||
| [2010/01/12 12:23:57] <Volcane> nope | ||
| [2010/01/12 12:24:10] <Volcane> where does it say tweak confs in client? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 13:00:21] <sebas891> hi folks, I've a bug that I don't know how to debug. on the puppet client I get a "Error 400 on SERVER" | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:00:47] <sebas891> on the server, I get puppetmasterd[1944]: Could not find resource type modules_dir at /etc/puppet/modules/login_themes/manifests/init.pp | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:01:20] <sebas891> i'm running the debian package of puppet squeeze on both client and master. | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:01:36] <teyo> code? | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:02:24] <sebas891> modules_dir { ["login_themes"]: } | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:02:42] <sebas891> in the init.pp of the module login_themes | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:03:12] <BarnacleBob> did you define modules_dir? | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:03:38] <BarnacleBob> teyo, fyi i'm trying to duplicate that but of mine from yesterday in some vms using a simple manifest | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:03:39] <sebas891> yes, in common/manifests/defines/modules_dir.pp | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:03:53] <BarnacleBob> in init.pp did you include that file? | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:04:01] <BarnacleBob> or | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:04:03] <BarnacleBob> import i guess | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:04:52] <sebas891> in the common/manifests/init.pp I do have import "defines/*.pp" | ||
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| [2010/01/12 13:05:43] <BarnacleBob> hrm | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:06:17] <sebas891> is there a way on the master to see which module are taken into account by the puppetmaster when it starts? | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:06:20] <BarnacleBob> well the way i would debug that error is to run a server instance on another port with debug and no daemonize, then have the client connect to that port to look for import errors | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:06:26] <BarnacleBob> sure | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:06:27] <BarnacleBob> so | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:07:00] <teyo> sebas891: or you could just debug it using the puppet executable. | ||
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| [2010/01/12 13:07:23] <BarnacleBob> do a puppetmasterd --confdir=/etc/puppet --pidfile=foo --masterport=8145 --debug --no-daemonize | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:07:35] <BarnacleBob> oh yeah you could do that | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:07:48] <teyo> I always develop with the puppet executable first. | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:08:17] <sebas891> teyo, it seems to be a good avenue :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:08:17] <teyo> and I never manually import .pp files in modules. | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:08:32] <sebas891> what would be the command line? | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:08:59] <BarnacleBob> well you would have to use the magic autoloading stuff | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:09:24] <sebas891> in that case, I would like to test the common module. | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:09:25] <BarnacleBob> i think if you call it common::defines::modules_dir{"asdf": } | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:09:35] <BarnacleBob> it would auto load the file | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:09:52] <teyo> puppet --modulepath=/your/module/path testfile.pp | ||
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| [2010/01/12 13:10:35] <teyo> where the testfile.pp includes whatever class or define you are testing. | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:11:04] <sebas891> ok I try that, I also like the idea of running the master instance on a another port to test. | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:11:23] <BarnacleBob> yeah i used that a bunch when i was creating my environments | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:11:37] <teyo> the autoloading convention requires that defines and classes are prefixed with the name of the module. | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:11:51] <sebas891> I'll have to do that soon, to easy up my dev... | ||
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| [2010/01/12 13:16:33] <sebas891> I don't get any output... it just sticks there. | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:17:00] <sebas891> maybe it doesn't make sense, what I'll doing... puppet --modulepath=/etc/puppet/modules/ /etc/puppet/modules/login_themes/manifests/init.pp | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:17:17] <teyo> no. | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:18:16] <teyo> you would need to have a second file that tests your class by including it or your define by using it. | ||
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| [2010/01/12 13:39:16] <BarnacleBob> teyo, is this a valid fact? not sure on the just set to a string part | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:39:17] <BarnacleBob> http://pastie.org/775228 | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:39:45] <teyo> yup | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:40:45] <teyo> you can test facts by setting $RUBY_LIB. | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:41:01] <teyo> and place the facts in $RUBY_LIB/facter/ | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:41:24] <teyo> then you just need to execute facter. | ||
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| [2010/01/12 13:41:54] <BarnacleBob> doesn't show up | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:42:04] <BarnacleBob> man i had so much problems ever getting facter to load the facts puppet does | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:42:15] <BarnacleBob> oh wait | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:42:16] <BarnacleBob> user error | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:42:28] <BarnacleBob> ah yeah | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:42:29] <BarnacleBob> so it loads | ||
| [2010/01/12 13:42:33] <BarnacleBob> sweet | ||
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| [2010/01/12 14:02:12] <himanshu> how can I see the puppet logs on client side? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 14:03:15] <himanshu> I have started puppet client using following command: /etc/init.d/puppet once -v --debug --server <puppetmaster-server> | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:03:34] <himanshu> but cannot see logs on puppet client | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:03:46] <BarnacleBob> uh | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:03:56] <BarnacleBob> init.d scripts usually don't take args like that | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:04:14] <BarnacleBob> you can just tail -f /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages to see the daemon doing things | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:04:16] <BarnacleBob> or you can run | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:04:29] <BarnacleBob> puppetd --once -v --debug --server=<server> | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:04:44] <BarnacleBob> i prefer | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:04:49] <BarnacleBob> to just use puppetd --test tho | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:05:19] <himanshu> but will above command you mention will retrive puppet certificte also when it run for first time | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:05:29] <BarnacleBob> yes | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:05:50] <BarnacleBob> it will exit because the cert is not signed, but it will create the cert request and download the puppetmaster ca cert | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:06:31] <himanshu> so am I supposed to rub above command twice even if my puppetmaster signs certifcate automatically? | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:07:24] <himanshu> Actually I am executing this from python scipt so just installed puppet and executing/etc/init.d/puppet once -v --debug --server <puppetmaster-server> but this way cannot access logs | ||
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| [2010/01/12 14:11:12] <jb> like barnaclebob said, init scripts typically do not accept arguments like that | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:11:42] <himanshu> ohk thanks | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:11:55] <BarnacleBob> himanshu, what distro are you using? | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:12:02] <himanshu> centos 5.3 | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:12:05] <BarnacleBob> ok | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:12:14] <BarnacleBob> do you have a cname setup for puppet in your dns? | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:12:32] <himanshu> yes | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:12:36] <BarnacleBob> great | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:12:38] <BarnacleBob> on the client | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:12:39] <jb> run puppetd directly | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:12:40] <BarnacleBob> to setup a new one | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:12:43] <BarnacleBob> puppetd --test | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:12:45] <BarnacleBob> will be fine | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:12:48] <BarnacleBob> then once the cert is signed | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:12:53] <BarnacleBob> do /etc/init.d/puppet start | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:12:57] <himanshu> so should I run it twice? | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:13:19] <BarnacleBob> i can't remember. its been so long since i did autosign | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:13:21] <BarnacleBob> but you might need to | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:13:31] <himanshu> ohk thanks..let me try that | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:17:35] <KarlHungus> anyone have a facter script or link to one that reports the disks in the system? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 14:43:53] <BarnacleBob> teyo, ok after much beating on virtualbox i finally got my stripped down client/server reproducing the problem | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:44:09] <BarnacleBob> but it looks like even if the facts load that one first time they are not available to be used | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:44:24] <BarnacleBob> and i'm pretty sure that was a bug fixed in 25.2 | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:44:38] <BarnacleBob> so this whole problem might have got fixed in any case | ||
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| [2010/01/12 14:47:53] <giraffe> KarlHungus: why not take something like "fdisk -l|awk '/Disk/ {ORS=":"; print $0}'" and create a facter from it? | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:48:25] <teyo> BarnacleBob: what is your factpath? | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:48:39] <BarnacleBob> default... | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:48:58] <teyo> so $vardir/facts | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:48:58] <BarnacleBob> one sec | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:49:07] <BarnacleBob> let me pastebin all my stuff | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:49:16] <teyo> cool. | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:50:37] <KarlHungus> giraffe: yeah. i can =) wasn't trying to reinvent the wheel though =) | ||
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| [2010/01/12 14:55:19] <BarnacleBob> teyo, http://pastie.org/775370 | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:57:00] <BarnacleBob> going to work on building 25.2 package | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:57:38] <teyo> k. | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:59:19] <teyo> BarnacleBob: try with --factsync. | ||
| [2010/01/12 14:59:44] <BarnacleBob> but isn't that deprecated? | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:00:14] <teyo> yes but you are not syncing plugins using modules. | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:00:17] <BarnacleBob> well now i get this | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:00:32] <BarnacleBob> http://pastie.org/775383 | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:00:36] <BarnacleBob> cause i have no fact mount | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:00:44] <BarnacleBob> well | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:00:54] <BarnacleBob> so if i stuffed all these plugins into a single module | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:00:59] <BarnacleBob> they would just sync over? | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:01:11] <teyo> yup. | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:01:31] <teyo> make a module called myfacts or something. | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:01:32] <BarnacleBob> hrm | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:01:42] <BarnacleBob> well i already have a shared class one | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:01:48] <BarnacleBob> i'll just put them in there | ||
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| [2010/01/12 15:02:12] <z00dax> just wondering if anyone has puppet manifests or a module for openvpn ( specially if it has client deployments automated ) | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:02:25] <z00dax> and even more so if they are using a shared cert with puppet | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:02:33] <teyo> myfacts/lib/facter/{factfoo, factbar, factbaz} | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:02:54] <teyo> z00dax: sounds like a useful module. | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:03:04] <BarnacleBob> you know what teyo | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:03:09] <BarnacleBob> i bet its cause i don't have that structure | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:03:16] <BarnacleBob> the facter/puppet/* | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:03:56] <z00dax> teyo: yeah, just wondering if anyone has done one | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:04:01] <explody> so how does everyone go about managing their actual puppet/facter installs, for example if you start customizing code a lot. Are you packaging it up and handling it via the OS pkging system or maybe using git or pushing out tarballs, etc.? | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:04:13] <BarnacleBob> oh guess not | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:04:28] <BarnacleBob> explody, build a package | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:04:31] <BarnacleBob> then with puppet | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:04:39] <BarnacleBob> do a package{"puppet": ensure=>latest} | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:04:40] <explody> yeah that's what I've done so far | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:05:01] <BarnacleBob> you would need a custom repository for your own packages for that to work well tho | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:05:16] <explody> I was just thinking about moving to git instead and pulling from a central repo | ||
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| [2010/01/12 15:05:36] <explody> so I can avoid having to repackage so much | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:05:41] <teyo> yeah. I never used factsync so I looked at the docs and they didn't see to be clear. I would suggest using the module method anyway. | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:06:19] <BarnacleBob> yeah i'm going to try that and see if it works | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:06:24] <teyo> you could try setting factsource to puppet://$server/myplugins | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:06:38] <BarnacleBob> yeah but then i'm using deprecated stuff | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:06:41] <BarnacleBob> which is frowny face | ||
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| [2010/01/12 15:06:45] <explody> I'm using factsync and a module called "facts", if that's helpful | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:07:09] <BarnacleBob> well i also have real plugins and stuff | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:07:14] <BarnacleBob> might as well figure out the proper way | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:07:45] <teyo> BarnacleBob: +1 and let me know if you get stuck. | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:07:49] <teyo> bbl. | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:08:29] <explody> well, I have modules "facts" and "plugins", and custom stuff in both with factsync turned on on all the clients, along with multiple environments and it's all working perfectly | ||
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| [2010/01/12 15:14:06] <BarnacleBob> haha damn | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:14:16] <BarnacleBob> good thing i didn't build my 25.2 package *yesterday* | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:14:27] <BarnacleBob> 25.3 is out! | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:14:46] <explody> ooh | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:14:47] <jb> oh | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:14:48] <jb> hah | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:14:51] <jb> i deployed 0.25.2 yesterday | ||
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| [2010/01/12 15:23:02] <gpled> have three exec's that i need to run. how can i make sure they run in order? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 15:23:33] <kjetilho> gpled: a chain of require | ||
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| [2010/01/12 15:24:10] <BarnacleBob> oh damnit i need to upgrade facter too | ||
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| [2010/01/12 15:25:43] <BarnacleBob> oh man | ||
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| [2010/01/12 15:25:53] <BarnacleBob> i have 5 different versions of facter out there | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:27:49] <jb> eek : | ||
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| [2010/01/12 15:52:28] <gpled> what would the syntax for requiring a module look like? | ||
| [2010/01/12 15:54:54] <Volcane> a module is just a class | ||
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| [2010/01/12 15:55:01] <Volcane> so same way it looks for a class | ||
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| [2010/01/12 15:56:58] <ohlolohlol> anyone using the new dashboard? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 16:01:33] <danielbln> <- | ||
| [2010/01/12 16:01:50] <danielbln> well, testing is the more appropriate term | ||
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| [2010/01/12 16:03:44] <ohlolohlol> danielbln, have you experienced issues with the jquery graphs being too wide? | ||
| [2010/01/12 16:03:49] <ohlolohlol> in ff, specifically | ||
| [2010/01/12 16:04:32] <danielbln> yeah, they normalize when more reports come in though | ||
| [2010/01/12 16:04:43] <danielbln> having multiple nodes also helps | ||
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| [2010/01/12 16:05:36] <ohlolohlol> i have about 200 | ||
| [2010/01/12 16:05:44] <ohlolohlol> right now | ||
| [2010/01/12 16:05:56] <ohlolohlol> and have had well over 20k reports | ||
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| [2010/01/12 16:06:11] <ohlolohlol> what i'm talking about is a display issue | ||
| [2010/01/12 16:06:30] <ohlolohlol> http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/3020 | ||
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| [2010/01/12 16:16:47] <jb> ohlolohlol: i have seen that issue.. | ||
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| [2010/01/12 16:57:28] <pheezy> The type reference wiki page formatting is all kinds of screwy | ||
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| [2010/01/12 17:00:50] <jb> ? | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:00:52] <jb> looks fine here | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:01:08] <jb> oh, you are right | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:02:23] <Volcane> I have a mirror http://nephilim.ml.org/~rip/puppet/historical/ | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:02:38] <Volcane> no new features since 0.25.0 so that versions fine | ||
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| [2010/01/12 17:09:50] <zahna> wow, who do i thank for regex node matching? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 17:11:02] <Volcane> masterzen: | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:11:03] <eric0> brice | ||
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| [2010/01/12 17:32:37] <zahna> has anyone extended puppet to manage pecl packages (for php)? | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:33:01] <z00dax> zahna: no, most people i know dont do that - they rpm'ise or deb'ise their bits | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:33:22] <z00dax> inclding gems, eggs, pecls, cpan modules etc | ||
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| [2010/01/12 17:33:51] <Volcane> hmm, thats pretty cheap | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:33:53] <Volcane> oops | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:33:55] <zahna> yeah, i tried managing my gems using the native puppet type. i almost wish i had rpm'ized them. | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:34:26] <whack> zahna: I started doing that until I had 'mysql' as both gem and rpm | ||
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| [2010/01/12 17:34:31] <whack> now I gem2rpm everything. | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:35:35] <zahna> i'll have to move to that model eventually | ||
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| [2010/01/12 17:40:58] <whack> zahna: I have a script that builds gems and dependencies into rpms, which I should open source, but ENOTIME currently | ||
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| [2010/01/12 17:52:54] <hardwire> how would I use the node name in a template content filename? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 17:53:39] <kjetilho> template content filename? | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:53:44] <kjetilho> no, you don't | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:53:57] <kjetilho> template(file1, file2) will concatenate file1 and file2 | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:54:02] <hardwire> that's right | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:54:12] <hardwire> well, sort of | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:54:40] <hardwire> I would still need template.erb to be template.nodename.erb | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:54:50] <hardwire> concating files won't help there | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:55:14] <Volcane> template("foo.${fqdn}.erb") | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:55:25] <kjetilho> that's useless | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:55:38] <hardwire> Volcane: awesome.. where the heck is variable substitution documented? | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:55:47] <hardwire> I'm having a bugger of a time dealing with it | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:55:47] <kjetilho> if there's one file per node anyway, why bother with a template :-p | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:55:52] <Volcane> hardwire: probably in the language tut :) | ||
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| [2010/01/12 17:56:04] <Volcane> kjetilho: yeah well, just answering the q :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:56:06] <hardwire> kjetilho: centralizing things. | ||
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| [2010/01/12 17:56:21] <hardwire> less places to SSH to. | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:56:31] <kjetilho> Volcane: ok, I guess I read too much into the question :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:56:43] <hardwire> and when I bring up a new node I won't have to create that file | ||
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| [2010/01/12 17:56:53] <kjetilho> hardwire: you do, that's my point | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:57:05] <hardwire> I'm talking about reinstalls | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:57:06] <kjetilho> since you can't specify a default template | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:57:07] <hardwire> not new installs | ||
| [2010/01/12 17:57:07] <Volcane> anyway, here's a template that works like file for selecting sources: http://pastie.org/666728 | ||
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| [2010/01/12 18:14:32] <gepetto> ::trac:: Module Organisation edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/ModuleOrganisation?version=50 | ||
| [2010/01/12 18:14:32] <gepetto> ::trac:: Language Tutorial edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/LanguageTutorial?version=101 | ||
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| [2010/01/12 19:03:50] <ashp> weird question but can anyone see an error here: http://pastebin.com/m32a722f6 | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:04:05] <ashp> it's giving me: | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:04:06] <ashp> err: Could not apply complete catalog: Could not retrieve dependency 'File[/var/log/openldap/]' of File[/var/log/openldap/slapd-write-replica.log.lock] at /etc/puppet/modules/testing/ldap/manifests/servertype.pp:145 | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:04:17] <ashp> but the dependency is right there | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:04:25] <Volcane> its the trailing slash on the directory | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:04:42] <Volcane> just get rid of trailing slashes | ||
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| [2010/01/12 19:09:20] <ashp> ahhh | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:09:35] <ashp> i didn't think that mattered, maybe it changed in 0.25 | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:10:31] <Volcane> its a bug | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:10:57] <ashp> ahhh | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:11:10] <ashp> while i'm trying to fix this my 18 month old is sobbing because 'baa baa black sheep' finished on youtube | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:11:13] <ashp> very distracting :) | ||
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| [2010/01/12 19:15:14] <Volcane> backups of users files is most often not about disaster | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:15:18] <Volcane> oops | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:16:19] <whack> ashp: that's why windows media player has the 'loop' checkbox | ||
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| [2010/01/12 19:38:07] <DrHouseMD> Volcane: the users ARE a disaster :P | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:38:29] <DrHouseMD> "omg i accidentally deleted a file please restore it ong the company will go out of business if we dont" etc | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:38:39] <DrHouseMD> s/ong/omg | ||
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| [2010/01/12 19:40:06] <Volcane> yeah thats what i was saying | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:40:09] <ashp> I don't know if this is another bug but boy is this annoying: | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:40:10] <ashp> [root@hlsproxy1 ~]# /etc/init.d/puppet start | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:40:10] <ashp> Starting puppet: Could not prepare for execution: Could not create PID file: /var/run/puppet/puppetd.pid | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:40:12] <Volcane> its re mail on apps for domains | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:40:16] <ashp> it then makes the file just fine :/ | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:40:27] <Volcane> and how if a luser deletes his inbox good luck with the opening a ticket to google | ||
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| [2010/01/12 19:42:56] <whack> Volcane: rip? | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:43:00] <whack> small world. | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:46:52] <explody> anyone seen this before? I'm getting it on my sol9 test box after upgrading to 0.25.3: err: Could not request certificate: Neither PUB key nor PRIV key:: header too long | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:47:27] <explody> I cleaned out the cert entirely on both ends, and regenerated it, and it worked once. subsequent runs do the same thing | ||
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| [2010/01/12 19:49:24] <explody> nvm I think I found it | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:52:06] <jamesturnbull> ashp: RHEL? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 19:53:14] <ashp> jamesturnbull: yes | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:53:17] <ashp> 5.4/5.3 | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:53:31] <jamesturnbull> ashp: puppet version? | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:53:55] <ashp> puppet-server-0.25.1-1.el5 | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:54:06] <ashp> I didn't move to .2 because I figure .3 is hot on its heels! | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:54:08] <jamesturnbull> ashp: I think it's a packaging issue with teh init scrupt | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:54:13] @ Quit: alfism: "http://opensolaris.com/" | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:54:13] <jamesturnbull> ashp: it's out :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:54:22] <ashp> it is but I was waiting for it to hit EPEL :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:54:30] <jamesturnbull> ashp: I'd raise that one with Todd and the EPEL guys | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:54:46] <ashp> i'm sure they are on it :) | ||
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| [2010/01/12 19:54:56] <jamesturnbull> ashp: I meant the init script thing | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:57:40] <ashp> oh, i just assume it'll be fixed by the next version, it was probably just a packaging error | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:57:58] <jamesturnbull> ashp: best to confirm they know about it | ||
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| [2010/01/12 19:58:54] <z00dax> so, back to openvpn - anyone tried doing a shared cert setup with puppet/openvpn ? | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:59:01] <ashp> will do | ||
| [2010/01/12 19:59:04] <z00dax> if so - comments, notes, gotcha's ? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 20:00:45] <Volcane> z00dax: clients/server auth with certs and no psk etc? | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:01:13] <z00dax> yeah | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:01:29] <Volcane> thats like the default in version 2.x its pretty easy to setup | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:01:51] <Volcane> talk morrow though | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:01:53] <Volcane> bed calls | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:01:57] <z00dax> :) ok | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:02:22] <z00dax> I've got an openvpn setup - and i've got a puppet setup, and i have a func setup. each with its own set of certs. trying to unify the lot | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:02:26] <z00dax> nite | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:02:29] <z00dax> i am off as well | ||
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| [2010/01/12 20:14:47] <Diranged> hmm anyone manage grub menus or sysctl configs with puppet? | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:15:10] <Djelibeybi> Diranged: I do sysctl stuff with Augeas | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:15:14] <bitmonk> i'm overriding /etc/grub.d/40_custom for grub2/karmic machine | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:16:06] <Diranged> ive got a somewhat wide array of linux hosts.. and i want to say 'for linux 2.6 hosts, make sure these two options are in menu.1st for the default boot item' | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:16:18] <Diranged> other than that, theyll likely be different distros, different kernel versions, etc.. | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:17:33] <BarnacleBob> Diranged, both | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:18:15] <BarnacleBob> oh i just managed the one menu.list using exec's for 8.04 ubuntu | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:19:32] <eshamow> anyone have experience managing package catalogs using Puppet? I'm looking for a way to determine if RPMs not managed by Puppet have been installed in between runs | ||
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| [2010/01/12 20:19:51] <peiriannydd> Diranged: you might want to look at the sysctl recipe http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/Recipes/sysctl | ||
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| [2010/01/12 20:21:10] <Diranged> peiriannydd: does that also write the change using the sysctl command at the same time, so its active? | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:21:37] <peiriannydd> Diranged: Yep | ||
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| [2010/01/12 20:22:00] <ashp> time to try plugins for mcollective! | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:22:30] <ashp> i assume i have to distribute these to each node running the server :) | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:27:04] <ohadlevy> eshamow: i tell puppet to keep track of the mtime of the rpm db, you can use it to trigger a diff | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:27:19] <eshamow> ohadlevy: beautiful, that's a great solution | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:27:26] <eshamow> thank you. you are all kinds of helpful! | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:28:30] <z00dax> its only the Packages file in /var/lib/rpm that you need to track | ||
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| [2010/01/12 20:33:54] <eshamow> z00dax: good point, thx | ||
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| [2010/01/12 20:34:50] <eshamow> ohadlevy: one question on your solution -- how do you tell if the change in the RPM db was forced by Puppet? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 20:35:15] <eshamow> in other words, puppet installs an RPM, the mtime changes -- but that new package, and maybe 2-3 prereqs were required by puppet itself | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:35:22] <eshamow> need to distinguish this from manual changes | ||
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| [2010/01/12 20:44:29] <BarnacleBob> eshamow, there are probably better tools like tripwire or logwatch and parse the difference between what puppet installed from puppets logs and what else was installed | ||
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| [2010/01/12 20:47:47] <Diranged> sweet thanks i finished implementing the sysctl module.. works like a charm | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:47:48] <peiriannydd> eshamow: logwatch would be my preference as it already does it for you | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:48:04] <peiriannydd> eshamow: What are you actually trying to gain from monitoring the RPM database? | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:48:47] <eshamow> i may end up using an alternate tool. peiriannydd: the issue is that we have some users with admin privileges who can get sloppy...we need to enable them to do what they need, but also to track changes | ||
| [2010/01/12 20:49:51] <peiriannydd> eshamow: Ah...yes, all too familiar with that kind of thing. Why not use SNMP + Zenoss or the like? The default MIB set should provide you with all installed RPMs for any given query (as well as a bunch of other useful junk). | ||
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| [2010/01/12 20:56:13] <diranged_> ok... now back to menu.1st... | ||
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| [2010/01/12 20:56:47] <diranged_> ther than manually managing that file, any ideas? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 21:03:12] <ohadlevy> volcane: the ui part for extlookup is also working | ||
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| [2010/01/12 21:10:12] <Volcane> kewl will check it out and chase julian to see whats up | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:10:27] <Volcane> might have to jsut do it myself | ||
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| [2010/01/12 21:12:27] <ohadlevy> volcane: its in the edge branch - waiting since last year ;) | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:12:40] <Volcane> k | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:12:49] <Volcane> he's been writing tests for weeks so he can make a code change | ||
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| [2010/01/12 21:12:52] <Volcane> awesome | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:13:02] <Volcane> soon the code will exist to validate the test suite | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:13:54] <ohadlevy> will you create a cache layer? | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:14:23] <Volcane> if there's a need i guess | ||
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| [2010/01/12 21:31:25] <tessier> Is facter pretty much the only way to know something about the machine you are running on? I want to put certain iptables rules in place to protect ssh if we have a public IP. And I want to echo certain values into things in /proc if we are a xen domU etc. | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:33:10] <Volcane> yes | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:33:37] <agaffney> tessier: that's the *point* of facter :P | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:33:45] <Volcane> the virtual fact will help with the domU case | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:34:22] <tessier> And why does facter --help require me to have RDoc::usage installed? Why can't it just print out a paragraph of text for me like every other app? | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:34:42] <Volcane> the ipaddress ones could be used for the public ip though how to determine if its pub/pri would be a bit harder | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:34:46] <Volcane> lazy devs | ||
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| [2010/01/12 21:35:01] <tessier> and ruby-rdoc requires ruby-irb...which might require something else. | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:35:28] <agaffney> tessier: because that's not "the ruby way" | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:35:28] <Volcane> less `which facter` | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:35:40] <agaffney> heh | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:35:52] <agaffney> poor man's ruby `man`? :P | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:36:06] <Volcane> yeah rdoc usually top of the file in human readable form :P | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:37:19] <tessier> Looks like the virtual fact might be something extra I have to install. | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:37:41] <Volcane> nah its there by default | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:37:46] <Volcane> if u run a recentish facter | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:38:02] <tessier> 1.5.0 | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:38:20] <Volcane> might be new enough, needs to run as root to gain access to tht info | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:38:39] <tessier> Yeah, I'm running as root. Not there. | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:39:14] <Volcane> http://pastie.org/775966 | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:39:30] <Volcane> gives u those kinds of values for various type of machine | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:39:58] <tessier> What version of facter is that? | ||
| [2010/01/12 21:40:07] <Volcane> 1.5.6 | ||
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| [2010/01/12 21:47:43] <tessier> Sweet. Found a facter 1.5.7 rpm. Now I have virtual and other useful stuff. | ||
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| [2010/01/12 22:06:21] <tmz> tessier: If you're using rhel or centos, there's an up 3 date facter package in epel. (apologies if I didn't read enough scrollback. ;) | ||
| [2010/01/12 22:08:51] <tessier> up 3 date? | ||
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| [2010/01/12 22:09:12] <Volcane> s/3/2 | ||
| [2010/01/12 22:09:29] <agaffney> s/up 3 date/updated/ | ||
| [2010/01/12 22:09:36] <agaffney> seriously people :P | ||
| [2010/01/12 22:09:36] <tmz> Heh, that's so up to date it's from the future apparently. | ||
| [2010/01/12 22:10:14] <tmz> That's what I get for not walking away from the keyboard after a few rums. | ||
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