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| [2010/01/25 00:06:31] <qweqweqwe> hiyas :-) | ||
| [2010/01/25 00:06:53] <qweqweqwe> how do you set the update time for puppet clients? (i'd like to make it faster than 30 minutes for testing) | ||
| [2010/01/25 00:15:50] <qweqweqwe> *or do changes get pushed out everytime a .pp file is altered? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 00:30:06] <qweqweqwe> anyone know hot to speed up updates to clients from 30 mins to 5 or ten? (for testing) | ||
| [2010/01/25 00:31:28] <ohadlevy> qweqweqwe: check the runinterval option | ||
| [2010/01/25 00:31:33] <qweqweqwe> thanks | ||
| [2010/01/25 00:36:32] <qweqweqwe> ohadlevy: that goes in the client's puppet.conf correct? | ||
| [2010/01/25 00:40:17] <ohadlevy> yes | ||
| [2010/01/25 00:41:10] <qweqweqwe> thanks very much :-) | ||
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| [2010/01/25 05:45:35] <ffrank> hi, i'd like to define abstract classes along the lines of http://pastie.org/793299, which doesn't work. any thoughts? | ||
| [2010/01/25 05:46:56] <Volcane> "doesn't work" is really helpful | ||
| [2010/01/25 05:47:26] <Volcane> but I'd guess you might not be able to inlude both forms of it on the same node | ||
| [2010/01/25 05:48:03] <ffrank> you can, the problem is with making a class "abstract" using some fail() construct | ||
| [2010/01/25 05:48:24] <ffrank> i want to force myself to override say, File[$x] { content }, or anything else | ||
| [2010/01/25 05:48:50] <ffrank> but fail cannot be used to that purpose | ||
| [2010/01/25 05:48:57] <Volcane> ah, didnt even see the fail there (which is why you should add error messages, the puppet compiler is much beter at parsing puppet code than humans) | ||
| [2010/01/25 05:49:37] <ffrank> right - Function 'fail' does not return a value at /home/ffrank/puppet/overriding.pp:4 on node ... | ||
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| [2010/01/25 05:51:25] <ffrank> so i've been wondering if anyone did something like that somehow | ||
| [2010/01/25 05:54:48] <Volcane> nah, cant see a way, anything that raises any kind of exception there causes grief | ||
| [2010/01/25 05:58:00] <ffrank> yea, i feared so. i guess i'll stick with defines then, they sort of do what i need here.. | ||
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| [2010/01/25 06:01:38] <Volcane> ffrank: http://pastie.org/793314 horrible :P | ||
| [2010/01/25 06:01:49] <Volcane> ffrank: if you include it works, if not it fails | ||
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| [2010/01/25 06:10:01] <ffrank> Volcane: what's horrible about it? :) | ||
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| [2010/01/25 06:10:55] <ffrank> even though, in most situations the class can be skipped, and the param made mandatory | ||
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| [2010/01/25 06:57:40] <ohadlevy> i know i can build from git, but does anyone have a 0.25.3 debs? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 07:17:58] <danielbln> jamesturnbull: ping | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:18:34] <danielbln> jamesturnbull: you pushed a revision into master branch, but it doesn't seem to be in 0.25.4rc3 - http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/2841 | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:18:41] <danielbln> just wondering if I got something wrong | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:28:07] <danielbln> masterzen: there is a small bug with puppetdoc's realize function parser | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:28:25] <danielbln> masterzen: would you like a new issue or an update of #2841 ? | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:28:26] <gepetto> danielbln: masterzen: #2841 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/2841 "Puppet - Feature #2841: puppetdoc should parse realize functions - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
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| [2010/01/25 07:29:26] <masterzen> danielbln: only bug fixes gets into interim release. This was a feature, so it is queued for Rowlf. | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:29:32] <masterzen> danielbln: what bug? | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:29:36] <danielbln> oh, I see | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:30:04] <danielbln> Nfs::Mount["foobar"] will be translated to Nfs::mount["foobar"] | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:30:08] <danielbln> which breaks back-links | ||
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| [2010/01/25 07:34:06] <ohadlevy> masterzen: any plans to support environments in puppetdoc? | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:34:30] <masterzen> ohadlevy: it's already there (at least in master) | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:34:41] <masterzen> danielbln: I see. Can you file a new bug? | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:34:58] <ohadlevy> masterzen: so it generates one html tree for all envs? | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:35:12] <danielbln> masterzen: will do | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:35:31] <masterzen> ohadlevy: no. It generate on tree for a given environment. If you call it multiple times with several docroots you get what you want :-) | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:35:41] <masterzen> *generates | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:36:04] <ohadlevy> masterzen: yeah, thats what I've meant, if it makes sense to generate one big docroot for all envs? | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:36:44] <masterzen> ohadlevy: it's more difficult | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:37:02] <masterzen> ohadlevy: I'm not sure it is worth the trouble on my side :-) | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:38:23] <ohadlevy> masterzen: I guess you are right, do you know if many people use puppetdoc? | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:39:18] <masterzen> ohadlevy: I think several people in this channel are using it. I'm not sure it has a lot of success :-) | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:39:59] * masterzen is wondering if Chef is using straight RDoc as a way to produce documentation | ||
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| [2010/01/25 07:41:23] <ohadlevy> it make sense | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:42:12] <ohadlevy> masterzen: its hard with open source, you never know how many people use your code :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:42:23] <danielbln> II like it, documentation which auto-updates is always welcome | ||
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| [2010/01/25 07:42:50] <masterzen> ohadlevy: that's correct, that's why Debian and other OS project have some kind of popularity metters built-in. | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:43:14] <masterzen> I assume some people are using it, because I got some bug reports and features requests... | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:43:15] <ohadlevy> masterzen: I'm guessing that a lot of people dont turn it on | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:43:43] <danielbln> especially in enterprise environments | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:43:47] <masterzen> ohadlevy: sure, but if only 10% do it, then it's still a base on which draw conclusions | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:43:48] <danielbln> I know we don't | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:43:54] <masterzen> I don't either | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:44:48] <ohadlevy> for example, there are about 1500 users in the puppet-users, do you think that only 1500 companies are using puppet? | ||
| [2010/01/25 07:45:43] <masterzen> no, but I guess you can apply some kind of reasoning like they do in polls (ie take only 1500 people in France and draw conclusion about the habits of 60 millions people :-)) | ||
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| [2010/01/25 08:20:57] <danielbln> does the cron resource support minute statements like "*/5" ? | ||
| [2010/01/25 08:21:18] <danielbln> if so, does it need to be escaped somehow? | ||
| [2010/01/25 08:21:25] <ptman> danielbln, http://reductivelabs.com/static_files/TypeReference.html#cron | ||
| [2010/01/25 08:21:36] <ptman> it goes straight to the cron daemon, support depends on it | ||
| [2010/01/25 08:21:52] <danielbln> darn, the one time I don't open the docs :D | ||
| [2010/01/25 08:21:53] <danielbln> ty | ||
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| [2010/01/25 08:22:17] <ptman> =) | ||
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| [2010/01/25 09:23:18] <ashp> err: /File[/var/lib/puppet/lib]: Failed to retrieve current state of resource: Error 400 on SERVER: Too many open files - /etc/puppet/modules/production Could not retrieve file metadata for puppet://puppet/plugins: Error 400 on SERVER: Too many open files - /etc/puppet/modules/production | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:23:23] <ashp> That's a new one. | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:24:57] <KarlHungus> increase your fd limits | ||
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| [2010/01/25 09:43:17] <Volcane> not sure now, but i think so | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:43:18] <Volcane> oops | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:44:12] <ashp> KarlHungus: i've never had to before, however, so I guess puppetmaster was holding files open | ||
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| [2010/01/25 09:45:25] <KarlHungus> ashp: you probably have a default max of 1024 files open, which is really low if you have aseveral nodes connect in at once | ||
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| [2010/01/25 09:46:05] <ashp> -sh-3.2# cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:46:05] <ashp> 356854 | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:46:12] <ashp> Assuming it's still file-max and not something else :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:46:14] <KarlHungus> sure =) | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:46:19] <KarlHungus> but what does ulimit -n say | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:46:32] <ashp> oh, that says 1024. I assumed proc wouldn't lie to me :/ | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:46:47] <KarlHungus> it isn't fd_max and file-max are differenct | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:46:59] <KarlHungus> proc cannot lie =) | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:47:02] <ashp> ah, so 1024 is per process and 356854 is per system | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:47:10] <ashp> I've never had to muck with fd limits on linux before, surprisingly | ||
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| [2010/01/25 09:48:50] <jb> hey volcane? | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:48:50] <ohadlevy> ashp: how many manifest files do you have? | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:48:54] <jb> sup ohad | ||
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| [2010/01/25 09:49:10] <ashp> ohadlevy: 112 | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:49:11] <ohadlevy> jb: yo | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:49:20] <jb> ohadlevy: did I miss the docs on how to enable the email alerts? | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:49:24] <ohadlevy> ashp: hmm thats not so many.... I wonder why did you get that | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:49:31] <ohadlevy> jb: i guess :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:49:39] <ohadlevy> jb: you need to add a line into settings.yaml | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:50:24] <ohadlevy> :failed_report_email_notification: true | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:50:24] <ashp> ohadlevy: i wish i had spent more time in lsof to find out what it was doing | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:50:34] <ashp> sadly i needed puppetmaster right then to get two machines up so i couldn't muck around | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:50:40] <jb> hrm, when puppet "refreshes" httpd, it stops responding until I do a "service httpd restart" .. anybody noticed this? | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:50:53] <jb> ohadlevy: thanks.. | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:50:53] <ohadlevy> ashp: well, just reduce the fd ;) | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:51:15] <ohadlevy> jb: and restart foreman | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:51:23] <jb> alright | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:51:36] <ohadlevy> jb: let me know if thats what you had in mind :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:51:52] <jb> k, i'll check it out | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:52:22] <jb> hrm, i don't know whats going on with apache here.. | ||
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| [2010/01/25 09:52:46] <ohadlevy> jb:anything in the logs? | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:52:51] <jb> nope, its like it just dies | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:52:59] <jb> parent process is still running | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:53:04] <jb> i wonder if hasrestart is messing with it? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 09:54:04] <jb> notice: //apache::linux::service/Service[httpd]: Triggering 'refresh' from 1 dependencies | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:54:05] <jb> hrm | ||
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| [2010/01/25 09:54:46] <jb> apache 18853 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? Z 08:54 0:00 [httpd] <defunct> | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:56:08] <ohadlevy> jb:anything in lsof|grep 18853 | ||
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| [2010/01/25 09:57:13] <jb> nope | ||
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| [2010/01/25 09:57:42] <jb> odd | ||
| [2010/01/25 09:58:35] <jb> its like an "apachectl restart" makes all of the httpd processes defunct, but completely restarting the service fixes it | ||
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| [2010/01/25 10:04:08] <jb> when puppet "refreshes," is it just HUPing the process? | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:05:44] <ptman> by default I think it does /etc/init.d/service stop /etc/init.d/service start | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:05:50] <ptman> at least on debian | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:05:59] <ptman> but you can customize it | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:06:08] <rocket> wq | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:06:23] <jb> wrong window? :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:06:26] <ptman> http://reductivelabs.com/static_files/TypeReference.html#service | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:06:35] <rocket> yes .. focus didnt follow mouse .. ;p | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:06:36] <jb> ptman: its doing something up, because its making apache pretty much crash.. | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:06:45] <jb> and a /etc/init.d/httpd stop ; /etc/init.d/httpd start does not do that | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:07:06] <ptman> interesting | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:07:24] <rocket> jb which os? | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:07:29] <jb> "Specify that an init script has a restart option. Otherwise, the init script's stop and start methods are used. Valid values are true, false." | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:07:32] <jb> centos 5.4 | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:07:44] <ptman> jb, not hasrestart, check out restart | ||
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| [2010/01/25 10:08:41] <jb> yeah, i can manually specify it, but according to the docs, it should either use "service httpd restart" (if hasrestart is true), or stop/start | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:08:47] <jb> both of which work fine when executed locally on the box | ||
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| [2010/01/25 10:08:53] <jb> but when puppet "refreshes," it kills apache | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:09:26] <rocket> jb: any apache error logs? | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:09:47] <jb> nope, the processes just go defunct :/ | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:10:20] <rocket> jb: have you tried to strace the pid for apache when puppet is trying to refresh it? | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:10:31] <rocket> strace or truss never remember which it is | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:10:40] <jb> strace on linux :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:14:22] <jb> it looks like the parent processes terminates successfully | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:14:29] <jb> just like it would if you issued a "service httpd restart" | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:15:01] <joe-mac> btw- the init script problem i mentioned using /var/run/puppet.pid versus the default vardir from puppet itself does cause problems. the init script isn';t kuilling puppetd | ||
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| [2010/01/25 10:15:50] <jb> http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/3103 | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:15:51] <jb> hm | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:16:40] <jb> not sure if this is related or not | ||
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| [2010/01/25 10:19:18] <jb> argh. | ||
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| [2010/01/25 10:26:14] <ckdake> hello, i'm using puppet 0.25.2 on a fairly stock CentOS 5.4. It seems that a recent puppet upgrade has caused "Notify" of apache to not successfuly reload apache, and instead give the error "(88)Socket operation on non-socket: apr_socket_accept: (client socket)" in apache error logs every second until apache is restarted with apachectl or apache's init scripts. Google hasn't been much help so far, has anyone seen something like this? | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:28:14] <jb> wow, this is super annoying | ||
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| [2010/01/25 10:28:39] <jb> all puppet is doing is doing "service httpd restart" | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:28:48] <jb> which works fine when I do it manually | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:28:54] <ckdake> yeah, same. heh | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:29:01] <jb> oh | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:29:02] <jb> wow | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:29:03] <jb> hah | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:29:08] <jb> i didn't even read your issue, yet | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:29:16] <jb> but yeah, its exactly the same | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:29:19] <ckdake> haha | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:29:27] <ckdake> this happened last night on a very basic config file change (changing the ServerAdmin email address) | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:29:27] <jb> ckdake: i did find http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/3103 | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:29:56] <jb> (thats me on the last comment) | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:30:39] <ckdake> yeah, the same thing happens here, probably worth adding the apache log entries as well | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:30:46] * ckdake doesnt have an account there yet | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:31:02] <ckdake> though they do say it's fixed | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:31:14] <jb> i'm actually not seeing those logs | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:31:36] <ckdake> my logging setup is kinda crazy, they may be /var/log/messages or apache error logs | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:31:55] <jb> hmm | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:32:31] <ckdake> looks like 0.25.3 is available from the EPEL upstream so I may do that upgrade next weekend and try it out | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:33:18] <jb> i'm going to have to push it out now, I guess.. | ||
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| [2010/01/25 10:33:26] <ckdake> heh | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:33:26] <jb> although, doesn't 0.25.3 have cron issues? | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:33:34] <ckdake> so a comment there says :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:33:37] <ohadlevy> jb:not the one in epel | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:33:53] <jb> ok | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:34:11] <jb> let me grab that then | ||
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| [2010/01/25 10:36:57] <tmz> jb: If you want, I have 0.25.4rc3 at http://tmz.fedorapeople.org/repo/puppet/ | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:37:51] <jb> i'll try the epel-testing 0.25.3 first | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:39:43] <jb> yay. | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:39:50] <jb> ckdake: confirmed that it's fixed in 0.25.3 | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:40:00] <ckdake> jb: thanks! | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:40:20] <jb> that was odd. | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:40:22] * ckdake still gets to wait for a maintenance window to upgrade and test unfortunately | ||
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| [2010/01/25 10:50:03] <tmz> ckdake: By next weekend we should hopefully see 0.25.4 release and have it in EPEL. | ||
| [2010/01/25 10:50:23] <ckdake> tmz: ah nice | ||
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| [2010/01/25 11:10:14] <joe-mac> hey nasrat you're british right? what's that style of traffic flow in the london to m,ake it hard for the IRA to bomb stuff? | ||
| [2010/01/25 11:10:21] <joe-mac> OT, sorry #puppet :-) | ||
| [2010/01/25 11:10:34] <joe-mac> there's a phrase fopr it and i can't think of it and it's driving me insane | ||
| [2010/01/25 11:13:58] <Volcane> ring of steel | ||
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| [2010/01/25 11:34:41] <joe-mac> thanks Volcane | ||
| [2010/01/25 11:35:00] <joe-mac> i brought it up to someone who lived in england for years and didn't know about that and the traffic | ||
| [2010/01/25 11:35:07] <joe-mac> i think you actually schooled me on that lol | ||
| [2010/01/25 11:35:23] <Volcane> yeah mostly foreigners know more about places than locals | ||
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| [2010/01/25 11:40:36] <Phibs> Anyone know when the dashboard will be ready to run under mod_passenger? (Or documented how) | ||
| [2010/01/25 11:41:02] <whack> isn't it just a rails app? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 11:41:21] <Phibs> I think so, I remember reading that he was going to add instructions specific to it | ||
| [2010/01/25 11:41:31] <Phibs> I'm not a huge rails user so not that good with setting up apps :) | ||
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| [2010/01/25 12:11:25] <joe-mac> finally fixed that pid problem, simplest problem and gave me a headache all morning | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:11:42] <joe-mac> pid/init script probelm | ||
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| [2010/01/25 12:32:14] <hexasoft> hello | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:32:25] <hexasoft> we need to be identified to talk here now? | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:33:14] <hexasoft> well, not important. I was playing with some config entries in client puppet.conf and I get a strange message: shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:33:52] <hexasoft> it seems to be relative to facts (as many messages as I have facts) but I can't figure what it means. | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:34:14] <hexasoft> btw clients are in 0.25.3 | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:34:19] <flakrat> can someone take a look at http://fpaste.org/1EPb/ and tell me if I'm using seltype correctly? | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:34:44] <flakrat> the client is a cento5 that has libselinux-1.33.4-5.5.el5 which is supposed to contain the ruby bindings | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:35:51] <flakrat> when I restart the puppet client it doesn't report any problems or that it even tried to change the context of the file | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:36:25] <flakrat> puppet client is 0.24.8-4 | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:37:49] <flakrat> I changed the ownership of the file to me to verify that it gets set back to root, so I know that the code is executing, just seltype isn't doing anything | ||
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| [2010/01/25 12:53:28] <joe-mac> i've always been registered so i never noticed | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:53:49] @ Mode +o Volcane by ChanServ | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:53:56] <joe-mac> hexasoft: this means that one of the parent directories cannot be cd'd into by the puppet user if ion the master, means there's no -x on a dir if it's root | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:53:57] @ Mode -R by Volcane | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:54:05] @ Mode -R by Volcane | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:54:10] @ Mode -o Volcane by Volcane | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:54:18] <Volcane> we had some nasty bot attacks over the weekend | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:54:21] <joe-mac> it was a mistake to make the channel require registering? | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:54:25] <joe-mac> o really? | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:54:32] <Volcane> freenode in general yes | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:54:32] <hexasoft> Volcane: ok, I understand | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:54:49] <flakrat> did my previous 5 lines make it to the channel then? | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:54:53] <Volcane> i think its good to have it +R but probably unrealistic given we get ppl here who have never used irc | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:54:54] <jb> yes | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:55:21] <hexasoft> joe-mac: ok. in fact in was a "transient" problem. I guess I did something wrong with fact-related config entries | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:55:54] <hexasoft> I was trying to use pluginsync in place of factsync to get ride of the waring at run | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:56:20] <hexasoft> I mean: warning: Fact syncing is deprecated as of 0.25 -- use 'pluginsync' instead | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:57:24] <joe-mac> o i c | ||
| [2010/01/25 12:58:09] <hexasoft> I made a stupid mistake: I removed the factsync (supposing it was true by default). On still installed nodes it was not a problem as they sill have the facts. but on newly installed ones, all facts were empty... it takes me a long time to understand why some parts of my configs were not treated :) | ||
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| [2010/01/25 13:01:53] <joe-mac> so hey Volcane remember we were chatting about that pre .25 CRL issue with apache, you had said i would have to completely regen my crl right? | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:02:16] <Volcane> dont recall, i think i said it just wouldnt work :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:02:18] <Volcane> with apache? | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:03:38] <joe-mac> yea, i think the bug is fixed | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:03:52] <joe-mac> in .25+ at least, something with how puppetca was using openssl | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:04:01] <joe-mac> it also doesn't create retarded symbolic links anymore | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:04:04] <Volcane> ok, in that case I'd think u need to regen yes | ||
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| [2010/01/25 13:06:23] <flakrat> ah, I see the problem, i didn't have libselinux-ruby installed | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:07:13] * joe-mac fixes my add/remove node cert scripts now that puppetca seems to work right | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:07:26] <joe-mac> you keep your certs in svn Volcane? | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:10:19] <Dawgmatix> puppetca --list is showing me "No certificates to sign" on a puppetmaster server even though I am trying to connect to this server from another machine using puppetd --test. This is on an install using debian lenny and I am using puppet from the apt repos. Any pointers ? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 13:11:29] <hexasoft> Dawgmatix: do you see connections in your server logs? | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:11:56] <hexasoft> I mean, are you sure that the client is connecting to the right machine? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 13:12:15] <Dawgmatix> checking ... :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:12:45] <whack> whoa. automatic tags are awesome. | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:12:59] <hexasoft> Volcane: I think you told me some times ago you were using alias in puppetmaster certs, no? | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:13:41] <Volcane> dont keep them in svn, yes i use aliases on certs | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:15:24] <hexasoft> Volcane: I don't get them on svn :) | ||
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| [2010/01/25 13:15:35] <Volcane> joemac asked :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:15:44] <Volcane> very distracted here :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:15:51] <hexasoft> Volcane: I still have problems with alias, or maybe I don't understand how to use them | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:15:55] <hexasoft> hehe | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:16:07] <Volcane> certdnsnames = puppet-reports | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:16:10] <Volcane> in [puppetmasterd] | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:16:11] <Dawgmatix> ah i see some errors in masterhttp.log - tlsv1 alert unknown ca | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:16:26] <hexasoft> Volcane: my masters have the same cert, with alias en puppet0, 1, 2, 3 and 4 | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:16:29] <Volcane> if you then generate new certs it will have whatever is in certname as well as puppet-reports as valid names | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:16:57] <hexasoft> puppet0 is a load-balanced DNS alias used to dispatch connections to real servers (which works fine) | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:17:12] <Volcane> u can verify with: openssl x509 -in certs/puppet.pem -text | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:17:18] <hexasoft> but if I direct a client to a particular server (let say puppet3), cert verification failed | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:17:18] <Volcane> look for DNS: | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:17:47] <Volcane> hmm, how do you redirect? the LB does it behind the scenes? | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:17:57] <hexasoft> DNS:ccpuppet1.in2p3.fr, DNS:ccpuppet2.in2p3.fr, DNS:ccpuppet3.in2p3.fr, DNS:ccpuppet4.in2p3.fr, DNS:ccpuppet0.in2p3.fr | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:18:42] <hexasoft> Volcane: yes. ccpuppet0 is a false DNS entry that points to one of the 1-4 machines (depending on local load and status (I mean 'in production' or 'in maintenance') | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:18:51] <Volcane> nods ok | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:19:03] <Volcane> and you run them with server=ccpuppet0.in2p3.fr ? | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:19:04] <hexasoft> a client can talk using puppet0 to any of the servers | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:19:08] <hexasoft> yes | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:19:19] <Volcane> sounds like it should work | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:19:23] <hexasoft> but if I use server=ccpuppet3.in2p3.fr it failed | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:19:38] <Volcane> i just copy the same cert everywhere, it has a certname=puppet and certdnsnames as above | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:19:56] <hexasoft> well, strange | ||
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| [2010/01/25 13:20:05] <hexasoft> I also have the same certs on each servers | ||
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| [2010/01/25 13:36:17] <hexasoft> split! | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:37:40] <Dawgmatix> okay some progress but still not quite there - my client is reporting itself as clientname.localdomain to the server, but i have its hostname set to clientname. this makes puppetd --test unhappy | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:37:46] <Dawgmatix> any pointers on how to fix this ? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 13:55:44] <joe-mac> so, just to let everyone know who didn;t, the crl thing is fixed now you can point apache at your crl and it sees it | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:56:03] <joe-mac> just revoked my nagios box for shits and grins, it works heh. took the time to update the SSL protocol line too, was still allowing sslv2 | ||
| [2010/01/25 13:56:06] <Volcane> neat, but need to redo ssl? | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:03:31] <neek> so regsubst is kicking my ass. still. | ||
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| [2010/01/25 14:05:43] <neek> anyone any good with it? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 14:09:47] <BarnacleBob> so i've added a provider to my module in modules/foo/lib/puppet/provider/rpm2.rb, and i have plugin sync enabled and it gets pushed to a client at /var/lib/puppet/lib/puppet/provider/rpm2.rb, but puppet is not loading it. am i missing a config option or something. this provider use to work fine till i switched to plugin distribution | ||
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| [2010/01/25 14:13:22] <joe-mac> Volcane: all i needed to do was create a new dummy cert then revoke it. i have a script to upload a new key too, so no biggie | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:13:34] <joe-mac> then i tested on the nagios one to make sure it *really* worked | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:13:44] <Volcane> ah very neat | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:14:40] <joe-mac> what was weird thuogh, is that apparently my scripts which are admittedly hacky, somehow started up a second puppetd that was using a different splay, so the onje with the cached old bad cert every few minutes kept making my error log say "certificate revoked" | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:15:01] <joe-mac> i' | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:15:16] <joe-mac> m pumped it's working now, but people might be surprised not ina good way that it hadn't been working (the crl) | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:18:17] <joe-mac> however i somehow managed to mangle the certificate my master uses to talk to itself | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:18:42] <Volcane> yeah hate the whole cert for master stuff | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:18:56] <Volcane> i set certname cos of that so client has a diff cert to masster | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:19:18] <joe-mac> same here | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:19:23] <joe-mac> the master used cn=puppet | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:19:32] <joe-mac> so all my masters can use the same one, regardless of domain/location | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:19:41] <joe-mac> however i like that they themselves use the fqdn to connect | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:19:50] <Volcane> ditto | ||
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| [2010/01/25 14:20:06] <joe-mac> idk what happened, it could have to do with me updating also to better ciphers | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:20:12] <joe-mac> i noticed ssl2 was enabled and whatnot | ||
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| [2010/01/25 14:28:01] <neek> so can I set a puppet variable to the output of an exec{}? | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:28:32] <Volcane> code compiles on the master, exec runs on the client | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:28:40] <Volcane> so not possible - if u want something you should add facts | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:29:57] <jb> in your site/reports dir | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:30:00] <jb> oops. | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:30:06] <BarnacleBob> anyone know where providers are suppose to end up on the client to get loaded properly? | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:30:17] <BarnacleBob> or what config directive controls it? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 14:37:07] * BarnacleBob stabs plugins | ||
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| [2010/01/25 14:53:41] <ashp> anyone want a job as a linux sysadmin in cambridge, MA? | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:53:49] <ashp> must be willing to use puppet a lot! | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:53:57] <BarnacleBob> hrm it loads my plugin if it fresh downloads it. but not after any other run | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:53:58] <BarnacleBob> info: Loading downloaded plugin /var/lib/puppet/lib/puppet/provider/rpm2.rb | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:54:43] <jrojas> ashp: try asking the mailing list for puppet-users | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:55:20] <ashp> i think I will, my coworker just quit so we're now actively hiring | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:55:30] <hexasoft> ashp: I guess most people here do have a sysadmin job, and still deal with puppet alot ;) | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:55:57] <ashp> I just don't want a stack of crappy resumes from people who hate automation | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:56:03] <ashp> my coworker never got on board with puppet and it drove me mad | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:56:17] <BarnacleBob> i hate those types | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:56:27] <hexasoft> hehe | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:56:46] <ashp> i wonder if it's ok for me to mention that it's a job at harvard | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:56:51] <ashp> oh well my boss said i can ask people so, i guess so | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:57:02] @ Quit: giskard: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:57:02] <BarnacleBob> lol nice | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:58:13] <BarnacleBob> where the hell can i put a provider where it will get auto loaded | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:58:18] <BarnacleBob> stupid module plugins just don't work | ||
| [2010/01/25 14:58:29] <BarnacleBob> time for a symlink hack | ||
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| [2010/01/25 15:00:31] <Phibs> if I am using foreman, and I made a host group, how do I assign hosts to that group? | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:00:33] <hexasoft> I can't find in the release notes when it is planed to make puppetd return useful error codes. Anyone as an idea? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 15:02:20] <BarnacleBob> hexasoft, i heard people talking about it friday and it seemed it would be 26.0 | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:02:30] <hexasoft> ok | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:02:44] <hexasoft> it will be useful (at least for me) | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:03:01] <BarnacleBob> yeah would be nice | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:03:16] <hexasoft> so I will be able to remove ugly output parsing to find out what caused puppetd to failed :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:03:54] <Phibs> no foreman users ? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 15:06:15] <BarnacleBob> Phibs, i believe you go to the host and select the group | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:06:33] <Phibs> hmm | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:06:41] <ashp> i posted to puppet-users, maybe it'll actually post this time, my last one went awry | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:06:56] <Phibs> indeed, wonder if there's a way to group by hostname or something cool | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:07:27] <Phibs> hmm can I disable ptable/disk, it won't let me save the group due to that | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:07:46] <joe-mac> can anyone explain to me the difference between ssl/crl.pem and ssl/ca/ca_crl.pem? | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:07:56] <Phibs> http://pastebin.com/m152c13e3 | ||
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| [2010/01/25 15:08:14] <joe-mac> i'm justn oticing during my cap deploys i am deleting that crl.pem | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:08:32] <Phibs> seems dumb, of course the IP is teh same, I'm just changing the host group.... | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:08:33] * neek . o O ( got it. $shorthostname = regsubst($hostname, '[0-9]{6}-', '') | ||
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| [2010/01/25 15:12:07] <hexasoft> joe-mac: can't remember this crl.pem?! is it new to 0.25.x ? | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:12:56] <hexasoft> on my 0.24.8 these files does not exists, but they do on my 0.25.3 | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:13:33] <joe-mac> same here hexasoft, and there were puppetca changes | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:13:56] <joe-mac> gotta figure out waht i need to do about the crl.pem? since whatever is in my subversion head does an rsync --delete... which removes any cruft not in svn | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:14:08] <hexasoft> btw I don't know *what* is this file (openssl x509 claims it is not a cert) | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:14:09] <joe-mac> but .pem files have a good chance of being not-cruft | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:14:53] <Phibs> is there a way to mass set my nodes to the a 'global' host group | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:14:55] <hexasoft> I try to remove it to see if client can live without it :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:15:18] <joe-mac> hexasoft: i'm removing it every push and they seem fine lol | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:15:24] <BarnacleBob> Phibs, i think you can if in the config you turn off provision mode or something | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:15:29] <hexasoft> joe-mac: fine :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:15:32] <Phibs> BarnacleBob: ok | ||
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| [2010/01/25 15:16:00] <hexasoft> joe-mac: in particular because I handle myself certs on clients (not let puppet create/manage them) | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:16:01] <joe-mac> what is global host group? | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:16:19] <joe-mac> hexasoft: i have scripts which use puppetca to gen/remove them and then commit them to subversion | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:16:29] <joe-mac> so when i do cap deploys i can deploy my new certs and remove the old ones | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:16:54] <hexasoft> joe-mac: well, I use the hard way: I create keys, certs req, and then sign them with master CA | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:17:12] <joe-mac> i would invariably forget a step | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:17:13] <hexasoft> (in a script, of course) | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:17:18] <joe-mac> o ok | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:17:31] <joe-mac> puppetca is really just a wrapper to openssl anyways heh | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:17:44] <joe-mac> that's what all ca's are i guess | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:17:48] <hexasoft> joe-mac: in fact we use a central authority server that push (using a pubkey on each client) all private data after installation | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:18:23] <joe-mac> well, we use ssh for anything at all that is outside puppet. here and there https | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:18:42] <joe-mac> though it would be nice if i hooked in something that auto generated an SSL cert for every node when it was built to use for wahetver servuice it has | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:18:48] <joe-mac> light bulb moment | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:18:52] <joe-mac> no time right now though | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:18:54] <hexasoft> an installing node send a request to this central machine, and if the client in noted as installing itself, it provides the data (such as sshd keys, some internal keys, certs...) | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:19:43] <hexasoft> joe-mac: yes, the goal is to keep always the same certs/keys/whatever for the same machine | ||
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| [2010/01/25 15:20:01] <hexasoft> apart of course if we want to change it. | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:20:05] <joe-mac> yea | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:20:50] <joe-mac> i need to do something soon to automate quarterly switching of ssh keys. it's proabbly going to involve an automated mail that goes out to each person in my users class that asks sfor a special email with a token in the first line, then fetchmail to get the new pubkeys from some mailbox | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:21:03] <joe-mac> i haven't talked to anybody else to really figure out how to do it | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:21:11] <joe-mac> but i think my vague idea is pretty good | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:21:32] <hexasoft> a vague idea is often pretty good ;) | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:21:45] <joe-mac> heh, it's when you have no idea that you're screwed | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:21:57] <hexasoft> sure | ||
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| [2010/01/25 15:26:39] <joe-mac> so leet, i've got puppetdoc updating rdocs every night. .25 has brought a lot of good changes for us, except this cron bug heh | ||
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| [2010/01/25 15:32:20] <danielbln> ohadlevy: ping | ||
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| [2010/01/25 15:32:40] <danielbln> ohadlevy: say, is there a tutorial of some sort, which describes a very minimal install of foreman? | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:32:58] <danielbln> ohadlevy: I'm not looking for it to do any control, more of a display-only tool | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:35:27] <hexasoft> mmmh, btw I should open a bug about puppetd documentation | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:35:54] <hexasoft> at least the manpage lack of some available options (which I found in the source) | ||
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| [2010/01/25 15:41:21] <ashp> damn, i knew i should have added salary things to my post | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:43:00] <hexasoft> joe-mac: btw, I manage certs for clients, and in this case client certs are never managed by servers: they do not have copies of certs that may need to be revoked or so. It is useful sometimes :) | ||
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| [2010/01/25 15:45:59] <joe-mac> ashp: what post? | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:46:04] <Phibs> hmm puppet isn't restarting itself with a refresh :( | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:46:06] <Phibs> its just stopping | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:46:09] <Phibs> on config file change | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:46:27] <ashp> joe-mac: about the job at harvard | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:46:33] <ashp> someone just replied to the post and honestly asked | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:46:39] <ashp> "Could you give me a little background on the company? I have plenty | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:46:40] <ashp> of experience with all of the products/technologies mentioned. | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:47:06] <joe-mac> LMFAO a littel backlgrounyd on harvard>?!>! | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:47:07] <joe-mac> hahaha | ||
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| [2010/01/25 15:47:17] <ashp> it's harvard for gods sake, surely they've heard of it | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:47:23] <joe-mac> forward it to me ashp, simply interested. i am across the river. joseph.e.mcdonagh@gmail.com | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:47:29] <Phibs> as a stuck up ivy league school? sure. | ||
| [2010/01/25 15:47:33] <ashp> :D | ||
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| [2010/01/25 15:48:04] <ashp> forwarded, my boss hasn't put together the actual job description, i just threw that up based on what he told me | ||
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| [2010/01/25 16:03:02] <Phibs> apparently puppet can't restart itself w/o saying restart => '/etc/init.d/puppet restart' | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:03:03] <Phibs> nice bug ;) | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:03:44] <jamesturnbull> Phibs: on what platform? | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:04:04] <Phibs> Centos 5.4 | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:04:10] <Phibs> the way it does it is service stop | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:04:13] <Phibs> then service start | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:04:15] <Phibs> well service stop works | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:04:18] <Phibs> but... you can guess teh issue :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:04:37] <jamesturnbull> Phibs: have you tried hasrestart? | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:04:40] <monachus> phibs: i actually encountered that yesterday on gentoo | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:05:12] <monachus> with hasrestart. gentoo tries to stop, sees that it's still running (waiting for the init to return), and then won't restart. puppet finishes its run and dies, and i'm left w/ no puppetd | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:05:16] <pquerna> cd | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:05:29] <jamesturnbull> pquerna: pwd? :) | ||
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| [2010/01/25 16:06:21] <jamesturnbull> monachus: what should it do? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 16:06:48] <jamesturnbull> monachus: and is this is just Puppet right? not every service? :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:06:48] <pquerna> window focus sux sometimes on osx with multiple monitors attached | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:06:51] <pquerna> :| | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:07:09] <monachus> jamesturnbull: well puppet's the only service that tries to restart itself while running. | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:07:23] <monachus> the behavior is actually correct - restart should wait for stop to return and not process to be running | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:07:36] <monachus> it just means puppet can't restart itself unless it's under daemontools or the like | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:07:57] <monachus> fek - i've been in poland too long... "...return and process not to still be running..." | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:08:23] <jamesturnbull> monachus: so is there a fix the downstream guys could/should implement? | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:08:29] <hexasoft> Phibs: in some conditions we want to restart ourself. we use a restart-command | at now + 1 min :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:09:26] <hexasoft> Phibs: but it seems to me that puppetd re-start itself if its configuration changed | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:09:44] <Phibs> hexasoft: ;) | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:09:56] <Phibs> jamesturnbull: have not tried hasrestart | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:09:58] <monachus> i solved it by talking to volcane and realizing that puppet re-reads its config. that's the only reason for restart anyway, so as long as that happens or can be signalled, i think it's fine | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:10:16] <monachus> for gentoo, at least | ||
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| [2010/01/25 16:10:45] <Phibs> I was changing /etc/sysconfig/puppet | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:10:52] <Phibs> so a restart was needed :( | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:10:57] <Phibs> but yeah, I don't care, as long as it works. | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:11:27] <Phibs> I shuold maybe have 5 minute cron job that checks for puppet running, since it's hella annoying if it ever stops, and I only have 30 hosts ;0 | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:11:45] <whack> lots of folks use cron or other methods to run puppet | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:11:49] <Phibs> nod | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:11:54] <whack> just for a data point | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:11:55] <whack> ;) | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:12:21] <monachus> yeah - i've been advised to run it from cron. we run most of them under daemontools and have nagios check and kill the hung ones | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:12:30] <joe-mac> can somebody tell me what the difference is between crl.pem under ssldir and the difference between ssldir/ca/ca_crl.pem? | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:12:39] <jamesturnbull> monachus: yeah that should suffice for most platforms - only thing that might not is binding a port etc | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:13:14] <Phibs> whack: nod, care to share your script to run it from cron or shuld I just write one that checks status, restarts, etc :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:14:03] <whack> Phibs: I run mine from daemontools, not cron, but I would imagine most folks just cron 'puppetd --test' | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:14:19] <Phibs> ah ok | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:14:21] <Phibs> yea | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:16:38] <hexasoft> we do | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:16:54] <hexasoft> not really a cron, but something similar | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:17:31] <KarlHungus> ,39 * * * * /usr/sbin/puppetd --onetime --no-daemonize --logdest syslog > /dev/null 2>&1 | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:17:37] <KarlHungus> with a 9 in front ;) | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:18:22] <hexasoft> KarlHungus: we do roughly the same, with --color false and --loglevel warning :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:18:38] <KarlHungus> i could probably stand to add those in =) | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:18:41] <hexasoft> color is a mess when something goes wrong and you want to grep :) | ||
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| [2010/01/25 16:19:12] <hexasoft> KarlHungus: I guess you will not be able to add --loglevel, as I added this option on my puppetd version ;) | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:19:25] <Phibs> haha | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:19:32] <KarlHungus> meh. its all going to a central log host anyhow =) | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:20:32] <hexasoft> KarlHungus: well, ~1500 nodes talking about loading facts or running a catalog in X secs (in color !) is a bit silly stuff to send to local/distant syslogs :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:20:39] <Phibs> hahahaha | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:20:41] <Phibs> indeed | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:20:52] <KarlHungus> yep =) | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:21:11] <KarlHungus> and here i am thinking ~50 is noisy. haha | ||
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| [2010/01/25 16:48:46] <eshamow> running into an intermittent problem -- on new Puppet hosts, i get the following two lines on files required by the catalog: | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:48:53] <eshamow> err: /File[/var/lib/puppet/lib]: Failed to generate additional resources using 'eval_generate': Could not intern_multiple from pson: Paths must be fully qualified | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:48:53] <eshamow> err: /File[/var/lib/puppet/lib]: Failed to retrieve current state of resource: Could not intern from pson: source '"#<Puppet::FileServi' not in PSON! Could not retrieve file metadata for puppet://puppet/plugins: Could not intern from pson: source '"#<Puppet::FileServi' not in PSON! | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:49:10] <eshamow> anybody seen this? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 16:50:54] <joe-mac> apparently crl.pem is the cached ca_crl, at least that's the only thing i can find about it | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:51:19] <hexasoft> joe-mac: ok | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:51:25] <jrojas> eshamow: what version of client and server? | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:51:35] <eshamow> jrojas: 0.25.1 on both sides | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:51:42] <jrojas> eshamow: try a newer version? | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:52:17] <eshamow> ahh -- just discovered that the client is unexpectedly 0.25.3. trying with matching client & server, let's see how that plays | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:53:06] <jrojas> :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:53:13] <hexasoft> eshamow: maybe a package{"puppet": ensure => latest} :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:53:50] <eshamow> hexasoft: actually i'd rather the opposite, in that I don't want my hosts upgrading puppet automatically and breaking themselves | ||
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| [2010/01/25 16:54:03] <eshamow> i need to do an ensure and lock to a particular version, which i'll do | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:54:06] <jrojas> +1 | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:54:20] <eshamow> this one got upgraded manually, it appears | ||
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| [2010/01/25 16:54:52] <hexasoft> same than you. But a use a local repo, so new packages only comes when tested | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:55:23] <hexasoft> in fact 2 repos, one prod and one testing | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:55:54] <eshamow> hexasoft: yep | ||
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| [2010/01/25 16:57:33] <dotNox> a quick question ( did not read the entire manual yet ). Is there any way to run one time tasks with puppet ? For example to update system at a given time, or to realize something like Finite State Machine ( to perform tasks in a trictly defined way ) ? :) | ||
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| [2010/01/25 16:58:43] <shenson> time based tasks are better executed with cron, but you can execute tasks based on the presence of something the tasks produces | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:58:59] <joe-mac> sslhell | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:59:00] <shenson> and yes on the Finite State Machine | ||
| [2010/01/25 16:59:33] <hexasoft> joe-mac: +1 | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:00:00] <dotNox> hm. ok. thank you for information | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:01:42] <jrojas> every now adn again with a 25.3 client and a 25.3 server i get this: err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Could not intern from pson: Could not convert from pson: Could not find relationship target "Package[]" | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:02:12] <jrojas> but then on the next run its fine... | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:02:15] <eshamow> jrojas: that's very much what i'm seeing. since this is my first .25.3 client and the server is .25.1 (as are all other clients) I'm backing down the client to see if it's ok | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:02:19] <eshamow> except for the "next run" bit | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:03:05] <joe-mac> eshamow: you shouldn't do newer clients than the master | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:03:09] <joe-mac> the master should always be >= | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:03:12] <joe-mac> clients | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:03:15] <eshamow> yeah it was an accident | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:03:19] <eshamow> didn't even realize until i checked vs for this | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:03:22] <eshamow> sorry guys | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:04:15] <jrojas> the error I am seeing is preventing me from upgrading my 24.8 clients, i need a real stable version, and there is a possible bug that i keep trying to reproduce as well | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:06:48] <jrojas> i am trying to link the error to a specific puppetmaster of mine (4 behind a loadbalancer) and it doesnt seem likeany specific one is giving the error, they all seem to be.. | ||
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| [2010/01/25 17:17:17] <explody> is anyone aware of a way to dump data out of puppet, like "show all defined file items" in the entire setup or maybe per-module? | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:17:45] <explody> if I used stored configs, would data like that be available in a usable form maybe? | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:18:11] <eshamow> explody: i use storeconfigs for that purpose | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:18:28] <explody> ah ok, I'll check it out | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:18:37] <explody> probably should be using it anyway | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:19:04] <eshamow> explody: people have reported memory leaks, i have seen no such issues with it, and being able to sql query across configs / hosts is a delight | ||
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| [2010/01/25 17:19:28] <explody> yeah, I think that's probably exactly what I need | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:20:29] <explody> does it give you any way to look at what you're managing based on classes or modules? I was hoping to build a map of sorts that shows what files/services/etc are managed, and by what module | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:21:42] <eshamow> you can definitely correlate nodes and classes pretty easily | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:21:53] <jrojas> localconfig/yml? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 17:23:41] <hexasoft> explody: not sure if it is what you want, but a simple puppetd --verbose|debug gives informations about what is evaluated | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:23:55] <jrojas> im wondering about this node cache stuff, it seems like every run (if i loop a puppetd -vt ) it expires the node cache | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:24:02] <hexasoft> (and --test) | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:25:09] @ Quit: siezer_: Connection timed out | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:25:18] <nigelk> so who else is going to be at the San Francisco puppet dev training? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 17:32:11] <eric0> <- | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:32:57] <nigelk> excellent | ||
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| [2010/01/25 17:33:33] <nigelk> Just purchased it for two of us here at Google to come along | ||
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| [2010/01/25 17:38:16] <eric0> i've still got the paperwork to do, but i got approval this morning | ||
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| [2010/01/25 17:41:08] <Phibs> when I add a new host to foreman, it always wants me to add the mac address, and I don't use it for installs so.. thi ssi bad :( | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:41:31] <Phibs> and do they have an irc chan :( | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:41:53] <Volcane> yeah very annoying to me too | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:42:03] <Volcane> Phibs: you can ask ohadlevy here or just open a ticket abt it | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:42:16] <Phibs> yes, edit config/settings.yaml and add this line: | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:42:16] <Phibs> :unattended: false | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:42:16] <Phibs> and restart your foreman instance. | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:42:17] <Phibs> did that :( | ||
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| [2010/01/25 17:45:49] <jrojas> is there a way to change the puppet dashbaord's timezone. i think it shows all times in UTC | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:48:00] <Phibs> more importantly, it's not finding the damn node :( | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:49:14] <jrojas> heh nevermind | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:50:05] <BarnacleBob> oh man. i just made a single character typo in puppet that deleted all our custom scripts on every machine | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:50:34] <Cuchulain> these scripts are deployed with puppet, right? | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:50:41] <BarnacleBob> oh yeah | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:50:49] <Phibs> I added a node in foreman, and now puppet client won't start on a new node :( | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:50:53] <Cuchulain> so it's not that hard to fix ;) | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:50:54] <BarnacleBob> well i went to lunch after i made the change :) | ||
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| [2010/01/25 17:50:59] <Cuchulain> doh | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:51:10] <BarnacleBob> takes a while to update 600 nodes | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:51:14] <Phibs> any ideas? | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:51:37] <BarnacleBob> and it was cause i did $var in a template instead of var | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:51:43] <Phibs> other nodes work fine, the ones I imported from nodes.pp | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:51:47] <BarnacleBob> which as it turns out, is not a template parse error | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:52:29] <Phibs> do I have to change site.pp for extgernal nodes? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 17:53:59] <jamesturnbull> jrojas: would that be a Rails thing? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 17:56:11] <Phibs> now it finds the node, but isn't adding any classes to it | ||
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| [2010/01/25 17:56:15] <Phibs> evne when it's in the global host group | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:56:15] <Phibs> wtf bbq | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:58:17] <jrojas> jamesturnbull: yeah | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:58:20] <jrojas> config.time_zone | ||
| [2010/01/25 17:58:24] <jrojas> in environment.rb | ||
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| [2010/01/25 17:59:47] <Phibs> anyone know why the node is in foreman, apparently it's found, the YML is correct, but the node isn't getting any classes pushed to it? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:00:13] <lak> Phibs: compare the node in foreman to the cached node on the puppetmaster | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:00:16] <lak> that might provide clues | ||
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| [2010/01/25 18:01:14] <Phibs> I restarted puppetmaster/foreman | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:01:17] <Phibs> :( | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:01:48] <jrojas> lak: are there any docs about the node catalog cache stuff? it seems my puppetmaster always expires the cache | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:02:28] <lak> jrojas: hmm, docs? not so much :/ the expiration is intentional, and triggered by the pushing of new facts | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:02:44] <jrojas> hmm | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:03:01] <lak> our caching system basically sucks, so we have to kind of force things | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:03:16] <lak> the node cache is invalidated when new facts are uploaded, even if the facts haven't really changed | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:03:28] <Phibs> grr this sux | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:03:33] <jrojas> ah, that makes sense. | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:03:41] <lak> we're looking to replace the whole caching system with a much smarter layer, but at this point it's very hackish | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:03:46] <jrojas> nice | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:03:49] <lak> i knew that when i wrote it, but i needed something so i could move on | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:04:24] <Phibs> what is the url for fetching a YML file like the client would issue? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:04:30] <jrojas> lak: so here is a good one, I have a bug where the puppet client disappears after the first run, the last trace i was able to capture i lost, but it seems to be related to my root user belonging to a crapton of groups. | ||
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| [2010/01/25 18:06:07] <lak> jrojas: hrm, no idea | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:06:19] <lak> but i've seen plenty of ridiculous behaviours on *nix OSes with group membership | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:06:22] <jrojas> ruby's Process.maxgroups i think was involved | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:06:34] <Phibs> lak: any idea what the url I can use to fetch a YML is? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:06:58] <lak> jrojas: that i could not help with :/ | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:07:00] <fsweetser> Phibs: there's a YAML link on the line for each host | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:07:07] <Phibs> yeah that works fine | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:07:10] <Phibs> but the client isn't getting shit. | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:07:18] <lak> what about puppetmaster? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:07:21] <Phibs> and I have | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:07:21] <Phibs> external_nodes = /etc/puppet/node.rb | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:07:24] <jrojas> lak: you can set Process.maxgroups , its just even tho i added that as my hack during testing things still went away.. | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:07:39] <Phibs> lak: how to tell | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:08:00] <lak> look in /var/puppet/state/yaml/node/$host.yaml | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:08:02] <lak> or something similar | ||
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| [2010/01/25 18:08:09] <lak> $yamldir/node/$host.yaml | ||
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| [2010/01/25 18:08:27] <Phibs> classes = [] | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:08:41] <fsweetser> Phibs: what url does /etc/puppet/node.rb point at? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:09:38] <Phibs> http://foreman.myhost.com:80 | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:09:40] <lak> Phibs: so there's a disconnect between puppet and foreman | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:09:46] <Phibs> nod | ||
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| [2010/01/25 18:10:26] <fsweetser> and node.rb came from foreman_external_node.rb ? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:10:42] <Phibs> yea | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:10:47] <Phibs> from the puppet module | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:10:52] <fsweetser> okay, good | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:11:19] <fsweetser> can you wget 'http://foreman.myhost.com/node/<hostname>?format=yml' where <hostname> is one of your nodes? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:11:25] <Phibs> GET /node/dev-ash02.ge.siteworx.com?format=yml HTTP/1.1" 404 947 "-" "-" | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:11:30] <Phibs> :( | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:11:46] <Phibs> I get a passenger 404 on that one | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:11:50] <fsweetser> try going to that URL in your web browser, then, and see if you get any useful error messages | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:12:05] <Phibs> nah | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:12:08] <Phibs> just the standard 404 | ||
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| [2010/01/25 18:12:30] <fsweetser> that doesn't sound right at all | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:12:38] <Phibs> on that vhost | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:12:40] <Phibs> it's | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:12:40] <Phibs> DocumentRoot /var/rails/foreman/public | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:13:02] <fsweetser> is it just '404 Not Found' and nothing else? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:13:11] <Phibs> yeah but its not apache's 404 | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:13:14] <Phibs> its passenger's 404 | ||
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| [2010/01/25 18:13:37] <fsweetser> are you sure that it's not foreman returning 404? because that's what it does when it can't find the node you're looking for | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:13:43] <Phibs> hmm ok | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:13:51] <Phibs> red: The page you were looking for doesn't exist. | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:13:54] <Phibs> grey: You may have mistyped the address or the page may have moved. | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:14:02] <Phibs> box | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:14:18] <fsweetser> are you using SSL for everything else in foreman? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:14:22] <Phibs> no | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:14:32] <Phibs> non SSL at this point, trying to get things to work | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:14:39] <Phibs> I try an older host that was already there, that works | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:14:48] <fsweetser> very weird - it sounds like for some reason passenger isn't passing that URL off to foreman at all | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:14:59] <Phibs> hmm | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:15:03] <Phibs> it's on the same host, does that matter | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:15:04] <fsweetser> what URL are you using in your browser to go to foreman? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:15:10] <Phibs> http://foreman.siteworx.com/ | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:15:14] <Phibs> which works fine | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:15:18] <fsweetser> so it's the docroot for that vhost? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:15:20] <Phibs> yea | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:15:40] <Phibs> and yes it is the foreman 404 | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:15:51] <Phibs> as noted in /var/rails/foreman/public/404.html | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:16:16] <fsweetser> still, though, I get a diferent 404 for '/node/' vs /node/nosuchhost' | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:16:26] <fsweetser> I only get the standard rails 404 on the first one | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:16:26] <Phibs> I don't | ||
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| [2010/01/25 18:16:48] <fsweetser> my only guess would be that you're using a diferent version of foreman, then | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:16:52] <Phibs> git | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:16:58] <Phibs> vai the module | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:17:18] <jrojas> winner! err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: undefined method `path' for #<Rack::Request:0x2aaaad856e20> | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:17:25] <Phibs> winnar | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:17:36] <fsweetser> beats the heck outta me, then | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:17:42] <Phibs> :(O | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:17:48] <fsweetser> maybe something in your apache logs? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:17:53] <Phibs> nope | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:18:07] <Phibs> the hostname is host.subdomain.mycompany.com thouhg | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:18:10] <Phibs> vs host.mycompany.com | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:18:12] <Phibs> would that matter anywhere | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:18:41] @ Quit: mattwynne: Remote closed the connection | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:19:37] <Phibs> just bugs me that it DOES work for some hosts | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:19:40] <Phibs> just not the NEW Host I made. | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:19:45] <Phibs> so whats the dilly | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:19:56] <Phibs> if it wasn't workint it wouldn't work for any hosts | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:20:34] <fsweetser> I'd bug ohad about it next time he's around, then | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:20:39] <fsweetser> maybe he can think of something else to check | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:20:44] <Phibs> okie | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:20:47] <Phibs> thx fsweetser | ||
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| [2010/01/25 18:20:54] <fsweetser> good luck =) | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:21:29] <Phibs> hehe | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:21:46] <Phibs> is there some cron job I need to run ? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:21:49] <Phibs> I'm not using stored configs | ||
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| [2010/01/25 18:22:05] <svend> I set a variable in a node definition. I am trying to use that variable in a template file, but I am getting an error: Could not find value for 'vhosts' | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:22:07] <fsweetser> there is a rake task for importing facts, I believe | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:22:20] <fsweetser> I haven't played with it, though, since I do use storedconfigs | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:22:21] <Phibs> I already have that one | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:22:37] <Phibs> */5 * * * * root /usr/local/sbin/foreman.sh 1> /dev/null 2> /dev/null | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:23:20] <Phibs> cd /var/rails/foreman | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:23:21] <Phibs> rake puppet:import:hosts_and_facts RAILS_ENV=production | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:24:15] <Phibs> can't think of why node.rb doesn't like it | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:24:30] <Phibs> found others that dont work either | ||
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| [2010/01/25 18:24:38] <Phibs> :( | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:29:56] <eric0> anybody here with trac admin @ reductive? it says my permissions are limited until i verify email, but i never see any connection attempts to my smtpd when i hit the link | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:30:12] <svend> The variable works if I include it inside the class | ||
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| [2010/01/25 18:31:07] <lak> eric0: what email address/account name should i look for in trac? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:31:41] <eric0> account 'eric', email 'eric@explosive.net' | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:31:50] <jrojas> someone chowned a whole dir in my svn branch for puppet manifests, and it changed the ownership of every file on the clients in certain dirs to be puppet:puppet .. crazy. | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:31:58] <Phibs> lak: figurede out some hosts work, some don't... doesn't make sense any ideas? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:32:05] <eric0> i'll hit the link again | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:32:15] <Volcane> jrojas: not crazy at all, you should always specify the full desired state of resources | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:32:31] <lak> Phibs: it's all a foreman issue, tho, right? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:32:39] * lak has little clue about foreman | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:32:52] <jrojas> Volcane: yeah, crazy as in i didnt write this manifest and someone was guessing rather than reading.. | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:32:59] <Volcane> hehe | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:34:00] <jrojas> are there any recipes out there for better distributing directories recursively with puppet? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:34:26] <lak> eric0: hmm, looks like i can't really edit that in trac :/ | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:34:32] <Volcane> jrojas: what are you transfering? like what files are they? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 18:34:39] <jrojas> a bunch of scripts | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:34:43] @ Quit: crdant: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:34:48] <jrojas> that change and new ones show up | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:34:59] <Volcane> too often to make packages? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:35:02] <jrojas> yes | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:35:56] <lak> git? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:36:08] <jrojas> svn | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:36:12] <Volcane> yeah git or rsync or some such probably better | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:36:42] <jrojas> yeah.. ill figure soemthing out.. | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:37:40] <Phibs> lak: no, b/c foreman has the right data, puppetmaster does not | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:37:40] <eric0> haha... | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:37:53] <Phibs> althouh I guess it's b/c foreman isn't sending data for some nodes | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:37:56] <eric0> trac -> rfc-ignorant.org | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:38:12] <Phibs> ah well I'll wait for 0hh4d | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:38:15] <Phibs> fml | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:38:21] <lak> Phibs: but if puppet can't get the data from foreman... | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:38:34] <Phibs> hehe | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:38:38] <eric0> NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from kuku.reductivelabs.net[208.78.100.132]: 504 5.5.2 <kuku>: Helo command rejected: need fully-qualified hostname; from=<trac@reductivelabs.com> to=<eric@explosive.net> proto=ESMTP helo=<kuku> | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:38:46] <Phibs> KUKU | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:39:02] <Volcane> whats that, exchange? :P | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:39:10] <Phibs> haha | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:40:44] <lak> eric0: nice :/ | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:40:50] <lak> i'll look at it in more detail | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:41:11] <lak> we're in the final testing phases of converting from trac to redmine for the wiki, tho, so it might just wait for that | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:41:20] <ohadlevy> phibs: there was a bug when the hostname contained a - in its name, but that was fixed a while ago,... | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:41:41] <Phibs> oh god | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:41:42] <Phibs> haha | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:41:48] <Phibs> mine have - .... | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:42:10] <Phibs> in fact | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:42:13] <Phibs> the ones that have - dont work | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:42:17] <Phibs> and the ones that are just single names do... | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:42:22] <Phibs> how to check version/fix? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:42:25] <lak> time to upgrade? :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:42:30] <Phibs> yo it should be gitttttt | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:42:35] <Phibs> ;0 | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:43:01] <Phibs> hmm | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:43:02] <Phibs> # Initial Foreman Install | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:43:02] <Phibs> exec{"install_foreman": | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:43:02] <Phibs> command => "wget -q http://theforeman.org/attachments/download/27/foreman-0.1-2.tar.bz2 -O - | tar xjf -", | ||
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| [2010/01/25 18:43:21] <ohadlevy> yeah, thats old by now :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:43:30] <Phibs> I just used the foreman puppet module | ||
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| [2010/01/25 18:43:41] <Phibs> from the latest tarball | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:43:43] <Phibs> is that bad? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:44:07] <ohadlevy> no, but i guess it downloads an older version | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:44:13] <Phibs> heh | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:44:17] <eric0> lak yah no big, i just changed my address to gmail momentarily and got it verified | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:44:20] <ohadlevy> Which has this bug :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:44:31] <Phibs> hahahahahaha | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:44:33] <lak> eric0: weird | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:44:38] <Phibs> so chang eto 0.1-3 ? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:44:42] <Phibs> and will it 'reinstall' or upgrade? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:44:48] <Phibs> or can I upgrade another way | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:45:00] <Phibs> and sorry for being a noob | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:45:13] <Volcane> ohadlevy: when did foreman launch? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:45:20] <Volcane> nvmind let me check my svn | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:45:37] <Volcane> ah sept | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:45:49] <ohadlevy> Check the howto update wiki page im on my phone so i dont have it handy | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:46:04] <Phibs> will that puppet module update ? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:46:09] <Phibs> or will it only do an initial install | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:46:18] <ohadlevy> Volcane: something like that, why? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 18:46:37] <Volcane> ohadlevy: just noticed a jump in graphs wanted to double check it corresponds | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:47:03] * Volcane doesnt look at his graphs often clearly | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:47:20] * eric0 is following/fixing up wiki:MultipleCertificateAuthorities | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:47:20] <gepetto> eric0: wiki:MultipleCertificateAuthorities is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/MultipleCertificateAuthorities | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:47:45] <lak> eric0: nice | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:48:07] <Volcane> eric0: yeah wicked, i need to do that some time too esp now that revocation works | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:49:16] <Phibs> http://theforeman.org/wiki/foreman/Upgrade_instructions | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:49:25] <Phibs> hmm git pull doesn't work cuz there's no .git, is there a way to populate .git | ||
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| [2010/01/25 18:54:52] <Phibs> (in /var/rails/foreman) | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:54:52] <Phibs> rake aborted! | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:54:53] <Phibs> undefined method `acts_as_audited' for #<Class:0xb7714320> | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:54:55] <Phibs> ur gonna love my nuts | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:55:17] <ohadlevy> is it from git or from a tar? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:55:19] <Phibs> git | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:55:27] <Phibs> not supported via git? | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:55:41] <ohadlevy> So read the next line after the checkout | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:55:50] <ohadlevy> in the wiki i mean | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:56:02] <ohadlevy> Something like git submodule.... | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:57:12] <Phibs> np I just used the tgz | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:58:51] <Phibs> ohadlevy: thx dude | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:58:52] <Phibs> works now :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:58:57] <Phibs> heh heh stupid - | ||
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| [2010/01/25 18:59:12] <ohadlevy> great - have fun :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 18:59:25] <Phibs> hehehe | ||
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| [2010/01/25 19:07:12] <ricdanger> hi there | ||
| [2010/01/25 19:07:22] <ricdanger> anyone know if the "foreman" has an irc channel? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 19:09:26] <nDuff> ricdanger, AFAIK it's supported here as much as anywhere. | ||
| [2010/01/25 19:09:31] <ohadlevy> ricdanger: not yet :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 19:09:52] <ricdanger> I had some trouble with it | ||
| [2010/01/25 19:09:56] <ricdanger> with preseed | ||
| [2010/01/25 19:10:16] <ricdanger> it fails parsing server_path | ||
| [2010/01/25 19:10:37] <ohadlevy> whats the error? | ||
| [2010/01/25 19:11:06] <ricdanger> uhmm... can't remeber :S | ||
| [2010/01/25 19:11:20] <ricdanger> unfortunately I don't have my dev machine here | ||
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| [2010/01/25 20:02:05] <jbeez> hai | ||
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| [2010/01/25 20:19:53] <jrojas> hello | ||
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| [2010/01/25 20:21:55] <jb> ok | ||
| [2010/01/25 20:22:09] <jb> so, why isn't the captiveportal parsing php | ||
| [2010/01/25 20:22:14] <jb> on the login page | ||
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| [2010/01/25 20:22:40] <jrojas> iunno | ||
| [2010/01/25 20:22:46] <jb> ugh. | ||
| [2010/01/25 20:23:49] <jb> i wonder if this CP will be able to handle several hundred users | ||
| [2010/01/25 20:23:58] <jb> it seems rather iffy. | ||
| [2010/01/25 20:24:31] <jrojas> i have no clue what you are talking about :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 20:28:01] <explody> captiveportal? | ||
| [2010/01/25 20:28:13] <jb> yes. | ||
| [2010/01/25 20:28:23] <jb> i need the "login page" to be PHP capable. | ||
| [2010/01/25 20:28:35] <jb> i don't even know where this document is stored | ||
| [2010/01/25 20:28:55] <explody> login page of what? (I think you are not talking about puppet) | ||
| [2010/01/25 20:29:02] <jb> oh, oops | ||
| [2010/01/25 20:29:02] <jb> haha | ||
| [2010/01/25 20:29:11] <jb> have I been in the wrong channel this entire time? :/ | ||
| [2010/01/25 20:29:19] <jb> sorry guys. | ||
| [2010/01/25 20:29:28] <explody> if you mean since 17:02 PDT, then yes ;) | ||
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| [2010/01/25 20:40:43] <ohadlevy> ricdanger: let me know if you need any additional help | ||
| [2010/01/25 20:42:31] <ohadlevy> danielbln:pong | ||
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| [2010/01/25 20:44:23] <ohadlevy> jb: did the error reporting work for you? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 20:56:07] <jamesturnbull> ohadlevy: you need to start #theforeman and start offering support contracts... :) | ||
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| [2010/01/25 20:57:06] <ohadlevy> jamesturnbull: #theforeman is up - whats the standard rate going on these days? ;) | ||
| [2010/01/25 20:57:43] <jamesturnbull> ohadlevy: a million billion dollars a year | ||
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| [2010/01/25 21:05:27] <erichammond> Are there standard Puppet rules for installing and configuring a DHCP server? Where would I find docs on this? | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:09:42] <nDuff> erichammond, my site has a fairly large puppet module we use to deploy and manage cobbler, which is an excellent tool for deploying and managing DHCP+tftp+PXE servers. I'm not aware of anything comparable to puppet side of this which is publicly available, but also haven't been paying attention. | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:10:46] <chadh> nDuff: so how do you deploy the puppet master :-p | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:10:52] <erichammond> nDuff: Thanks. I think I'm looking for something simple, so may need to write it myself, copying from similar server configs. | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:11:12] <ohadlevy> erichammond: do you want to store the dhcp settings inside puppet manifest or just to distribute the config files? | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:12:11] <erichammond> ohadlevy: I'm fine with writing the config files myself as we may need to do some slightly odd things based what kind of client is making a request. | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:12:13] <nDuff> chadh, the first system we deploy for a given site is booted off a USB drive built for the purpose, which happens to contain copies of all the RPM repos and such to seed from. | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:12:55] <ohadlevy> erichammond: so what would be the difference between dhcp and any other service (e.g. distribute the config file, if it changes reload the service etc?) | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:13:05] <gepetto> ::trac:: Multiple Certificate Authorities edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/MultipleCertificateAuthorities?version=11 | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:13:09] <chadh> nDuff: nice. I just went through this exercise for a new cluster installation, and I ended up pretty much doing the cobbler, mysql, and puppet servers by hand | ||
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| [2010/01/25 21:13:30] <chadh> nDuff: does your udb systems do dhcp and dns as well? | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:13:49] <ohadlevy> chadh: if you have the repo avail some where, you can just do the basic os + puppet bins and run from there | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:14:08] <ohadlevy> chadh: in my setup, its enough to have one puppetmaster somewhere to generate another | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:15:02] <chadh> ohadlevy: yeah, I guess it makes the most sense to do the puppet master first. Except that my puppetmaster didn't have internet access, and I didn't want to cheat | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:15:02] <nDuff> chadh, DHCP is done via cobbler; DNS zones are either hand-built and rolled out via puppet, or dynamically generated by the app we're running and deployed to the server nsupdate-style. | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:15:33] <chadh> nDuff: I just meant for the initial installs | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:15:34] <nDuff> chadh, ...in terms of how the puppet code gets to the newly-deployed puppetmaster, see the presentation Deepak G. gave at the conference last year. | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:15:38] <ohadlevy> chadh: its not cheating - it follow the good lazy sysadmin concept :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:16:13] <chadh> ohadlevy: :) | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:16:34] <ohadlevy> eric0: which ca layout are you following at the end? | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:17:22] <erichammond> ohadlevy: We push everything local to each host and run it directly. | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:17:29] <nDuff> chadh, ...the bootstrap-off-the-USB bit is just enough to run puppet, which is then responsible for setting up the rest, incl. DHCP. | ||
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| [2010/01/25 21:18:34] <chadh> nDuff: oh, it's an installer for bringing up the puppetmaster? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 21:19:31] <chadh> nDuff: I see now. I thought it was like a livecd for a jumpstart server. the install cd with necessary extra repos makes more sense | ||
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| [2010/01/25 21:35:51] <ohadlevy> chadh: I use one global "jumpstart" server for all of my DC | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:36:37] <tessier_> Hello all! Anyone have an example of how to restart a process after an rpm upgrade as a result of a package { facter: ensure => latest } ? | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:37:01] <ohadlevy> tessier: shouldnt that be part of the rpm post scripts? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 21:40:41] <tessier_> ohadlevy: That's a good point. | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:41:09] <tessier_> I hope it really does it automatically. The current version of facter is hosing my systems. I'm hoping the new one will fix all of these zombie processes facter is leaving behind. | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:41:21] <tessier_> It has already run a couple of machines out of processes. | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:41:41] <ohadlevy> tessier: which version is that? on which os? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 21:52:47] <tessier_> ohadlevy | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:52:49] <tessier_> er... | ||
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| [2010/01/25 21:53:27] <tessier_> ohadlevy: facter-1.5.0-2.el5 on CentOS 5.4 x86_64 in a xen domU | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:53:40] <tessier_> There is a trouble ticket/bug report for this in the facter/puppet ticket system | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:53:59] <ohadlevy> tessier: why dont you upgrade it then ? ;) 1.5.7 is the latest | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:54:56] <tessier_> Right. Hoping it works... | ||
| [2010/01/25 21:55:12] <tessier_> But now it's time to go home. bbl | ||
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| [2010/01/25 22:00:25] <joe-mac1> sup infrastructure gangstaz | ||
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| [2010/01/25 22:02:28] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac1: yo - yo bugz is d0wnstream old skool | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:02:39] <joe-mac1> :-D | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:02:56] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac1: I was fairly sure nige had that one downstream but thought I'd check | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:03:02] * joe-mac1 is thinking about trying to make an mcollective package for debian | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:03:14] <joe-mac1> yea dude, idk what;'s up with that | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:03:22] <joe-mac1> and furthermore idk how i never noticed it | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:03:29] <joe-mac1> until i upgraded | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:03:29] <ohadlevy> joe-mac1: I thought one existed | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:03:34] <joe-mac1> sinmce the bug looks like it's been there forever | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:04:22] <joe-mac1> i will be a hero if i implement mcollective, like people wioll be blown away cause we're starting to need to give certain people access who aren't exaclty the most competent linux/unix users | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:04:51] <joe-mac1> and from the screencasts i've seen it has nice role separation | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:05:42] <ohadlevy> joe-mac1: I thought it didnt have role management features yet? | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:06:07] <joe-mac1> i hope it does- i may be thinking of this other thing he showed me that he maty have not open sourced | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:06:26] <joe-mac1> i think it's like mcollective on steroids, but i could be confusing memories | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:08:19] <joe-mac1> what do you use for that kind of stuff ohadlevy? | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:08:57] <joe-mac1> i'm already hitting scaling issues with like 75+ machines with capistrano. the ssh agent will just like crap out on me, or cap will fail to connect to random hosts | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:09:07] <joe-mac1> and we plan on getting a lot more machines in short order | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:09:36] <joe-mac1> seems like it might have to stay in its deployment niche for me, sad cause i think the tool has a lot of potential for sys admins if the cap shell got worked on some more | ||
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| [2010/01/25 22:09:52] <ohadlevy> joe-mac: i use some version of the foreman query interface, but its based on ssh, I did write a puppetlisten daemon to kick something like puppetrun | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:10:06] <ohadlevy> cap has a scaling problem because its based on the ruby net:ssh multi | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:10:10] <ohadlevy> which are not that powerful | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:10:31] <ohadlevy> e.g. cant have more than ~50 ssh connections in parralel | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:11:19] <joe-mac1> yep. it's thoroughly annoying when i forget to set my role namespace and by accident try to run on all my hosrts and it jhust craps itself | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:11:31] <joe-mac1> i like however that i have it set up to fill in all my roles via the puppet stored configs db | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:11:49] <joe-mac1> that is cool, though mcollective does this in other ways from whgat i've seen | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:11:51] <ohadlevy> joe-mac: yeah, thats more or less what foreman query interface does | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:12:06] <ohadlevy> yeah, it reads the local configs from each client | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:12:14] <joe-mac1> nice, isn't automation good? :-) | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:12:50] <ohadlevy> I aim to deploy mcollective on my puppetmasters, I had a demo running here, but it still lacks some authentication/role schemas | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:13:53] <joe-mac1> i see. i have a box that i use as a central point for administration, probably throw it on there. my knowledge of it is still very basic so i am gonna hit up some reading for now to tell my boss more in the mornign | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:14:48] <joe-mac1> you're righht there are debs... you know the quickest way to reverse a deb into its source deb tree that can be built with dpkg-buildpackage? | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:15:12] <joe-mac1> i normally just use dget, dpkg-source, uupdate, dpkg-buildpackage | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:15:21] <joe-mac1> just like to have the things in the custom repo signed by our key | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:15:44] <joe-mac1> probably gonna move this actually to infra-talk | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:17:08] <eric0> what's that? | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:17:22] @ Quit: bug: | ||
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| [2010/01/25 22:18:23] <joe-mac1> eric0: it's a technology agnostic channel for chatting about stuff guys like us do | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:18:28] <joe-mac1> volcane started it i believe | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:18:57] <joe-mac1> gained momentum fairly quickly, good place for taking non-puppet infrastructure chats and good place to geek out with your/our geek brothers | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:19:02] @ Quit: maxagaz_: Client Quit | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:19:29] <brothers> joe-mac1: who me? | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:20:02] <joe-mac1> lol | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:22:05] <eric0> sounds like my kinda joint. | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:23:40] <joe-mac1> yea, join, check it out. quiet right now but in america and western europe hours it's usually pretty active | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:23:50] <joe-mac1> by hours i mean business hours | ||
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| [2010/01/25 22:37:48] <ohadlevy> its business around here | ||
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| [2010/01/25 22:39:58] <chadh> joe-mac1: do you think patch panel recommendations would be an acceptable topic in there? | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:40:09] <chadh> :) | ||
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| [2010/01/25 22:57:02] <tessier___> :q | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:57:06] <tessier___> oops :) | ||
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| [2010/01/25 22:57:43] * odyi discovered stored configurations today | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:59:42] <tessier___> So I have a node default which inherits basenode and basenode does an include base whose class contains package { facter: ensure => latest } | ||
| [2010/01/25 22:59:58] <tessier___> And there is a newer facter in a configured yum repo. So why isn't it upgrading it? | ||
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| [2010/01/25 23:01:33] <joe-mac1> jesus my dsl sucks so bad | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:01:57] <tessier___> joe-mac: I doubt Jesus will help you with that when there are far more people calling for his attention to football games. | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:01:58] <joe-mac1> i really need to jkust run finch in a screen session from work | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:02:25] <joe-mac1> tessier___: FSM then? | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:02:31] <joe-mac1> noodly appendage to the rescue! | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:02:51] <tessier___> joe-mac: Yes, that's more likely. | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:03:13] <tessier___> May the FSM touch your DSL modem with his noodly appendage! | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:03:32] <joe-mac1> lol, i'm in the northeast, he would need to molest the whole infrastructure it's so dam old | ||
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| [2010/01/25 23:04:00] <tessier___> I'm sure he'll be smothering your infrastructure with his meaty balls any moment now. | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:04:06] <joe-mac1> i'm probably moving from my current place about 45 mins north of boston down to southie, and i think they have fios there | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:04:10] <joe-mac1> haha! | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:05:37] <joe-mac1> instead of football, i am watching one of the many awful hellraiser flicks ina totem window while i get to setting up mcollective | ||
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| [2010/01/25 23:08:52] <OpenMedia> Anyone got a good example of how to effectively use define. | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:09:07] <OpenMedia> I think I've got a scoping issue with my recipe | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:11:26] <chadh> OpenMedia: pastie? | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:11:44] <nDuff> OpenMedia, you can find all the examples you might want at http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetRecipes, but more targeted help (like you'd get if you described your problem to us) might be more useful. | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:12:14] <OpenMedia> nDuff: Yeah I've been digging through thouse | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:12:42] <OpenMedia> I have a webserver class and I want a way to create a bunch of weblog directories | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:13:07] <OpenMedia> The best option looked like a define and then use an array to specify the list of directories. | ||
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| [2010/01/25 23:13:44] <OpenMedia> $weblogdirs=["fred","jim" | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:13:54] <OpenMedia> Whoops missed a bracket there. | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:14:58] <nDuff> why put the array in a variable? | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:15:30] <OpenMedia> When I define a host I want to specify what weblog directories it requires. | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:15:41] <OpenMedia> Any other suggestions welcomed. | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:16:11] <nDuff> host foo { weblog { ["fred", "jim"]: } } | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:16:48] <nDuff> presuming you have a define weblog() {...} that looks at its $name to decide on the directory name to use, that is | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:17:11] <OpenMedia> Ah call it at the node rather than elsewhere. | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:17:19] <OpenMedia> OK giving it a whirl. | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:17:38] <nDuff> *shrug*; elsewhere can work too | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:17:51] <nDuff> ...but you haven't given enough details for us to know why elsewhere didn't work for you. | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:17:54] <OpenMedia> Thats where I think I have a scope issue with my classes | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:18:21] <nDuff> yar, puppet's scoping is kinda'... unintuitive at times. | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:19:25] <tessier___> hrmm....Pulling Strings with Puppet has no index... | ||
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| [2010/01/25 23:23:16] <joe-mac3> i gotta get off here while i work, troo many disconnefcts, see everyone later | ||
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| [2010/01/25 23:27:29] <OpenMedia> tessier___: One of Jame's favourite complaints ;) | ||
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| [2010/01/25 23:27:47] <jamesturnbull> tessier___: wasn't my choice - consequence of the imprint | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:28:10] <tessier___> jamesturnbull: understood | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:28:24] <tessier___> I found what I was looking for. It's not such a big book. | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:28:53] <jamesturnbull> tessier___: yeah less than 200 pages was the limit of the line | ||
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| [2010/01/25 23:30:39] <chadh> was there a bug in puppet where the options field wasn't recognized for the mount type? | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:31:12] <chadh> ooh, there is | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:31:20] <jamesturnbull> chadh: fixed now I think | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:31:37] <jamesturnbull> chadh: if its the same one I am thinking of | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:32:34] <chadh> well, #1464 sounds like it, but that seems rather recent | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:32:35] <gepetto> chadh: well: #1464 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/1464 "Puppet - Bug #1464: Mount resource complains about missing options field - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:33:08] <chadh> this is on 0.24.8; I hope I don't have to update to 0.25 to get the fix | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:33:09] <jamesturnbull> chadh: that's the one I meant | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:33:18] <jamesturnbull> chadh: yes you do sadly | ||
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| [2010/01/25 23:33:35] <jamesturnbull> chadh: we don't backport much except show stoppers and security bugs | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:33:44] <chadh> hmm, this was working. must have been introduced in one of the .24 updates | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:33:52] <joe-mac1> what bug chadh? | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:33:56] <jamesturnbull> chadh: you could easily patch yourself obviously | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:34:02] <chadh> jamesturnbull: yeah, I want to upgrade, but I am being held up by another deployment (that is 0.25) | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:34:08] <chadh> yeah, let me see | ||
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| [2010/01/25 23:34:24] <jamesturnbull> commit:7f258059d8c16c2a20f48a28d636227cdb5a346b | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:34:30] <chadh> this is relatively confined, so that wouldn't be a big deal | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:34:38] <joe-mac1> anybody off hand know the name of that program that will build debian packages based on whatever gets created in your shell session?/ | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:34:50] <joe-mac1> like, you run it, and it watches the steps you do, then makes a .deb from it? | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:35:42] <jamesturnbull> changeset:7f258059d8c16c2a20f48a28d636227cdb5a346b | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:35:42] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: changeset: changeset:7f258059d8c16c2a20f48a28d636227cdb5a346b is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/repositories/revision/puppet/7f258059d8c16c2a20f48a28d636227cdb5a346b "Revision 7f258059" | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:36:12] <jamesturnbull> gepetto: thanks ... must alias that in the bot plugin | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:36:31] <chadh> jamesturnbull: providers run on the client? | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:36:37] <jamesturnbull> chadh: yep | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:36:49] <jamesturnbull> chadh: but you need to update both on the master and the client | ||
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| [2010/01/25 23:38:14] <chadh> jamesturnbull: why so? | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:38:32] <OpenMedia> Ok progress. Looks like I was having fun with typos rather than logic. | ||
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| [2010/01/25 23:38:42] <tessier___> Are there any sort of debugging statements or anything one can put in a puppet config to know that their class is being loaded? | ||
| [2010/01/25 23:39:25] <tessier___> I have added a new class to make sure facter is at the latest version and it seems to be getting ignored. | ||
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| [2010/01/25 23:44:56] <ohadlevy> tessier: just run puppet in debug mode (--debug) | ||
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