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| [2010/01/26 01:02:15] <WALoeIII> can I use puppet without selinux | ||
| [2010/01/26 01:02:20] <WALoeIII> I want to move from 24.6 to 25.x | ||
| [2010/01/26 01:02:30] <WALoeIII> but I don't have selinux on my platform (FC8) | ||
| [2010/01/26 01:02:42] <chadh> I disable selinux on all my boxes, and puppet works fine :) | ||
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| [2010/01/26 01:06:13] <WALoeIII> well there were some bugs with it trying to do selinuxy things at first | ||
| [2010/01/26 01:06:29] <WALoeIII> I just need to jimmy up my spec file to 'do the right thing' now | ||
| [2010/01/26 01:17:48] <ohadlevy> WALoeIII: if i remember correctly, only if you have the selinux ruby binds then puppet will try to use selinux | ||
| [2010/01/26 01:18:13] <WALoeIII> ok, I think my rpm specfile was improperly enforcing the requirement | ||
| [2010/01/26 01:18:22] <WALoeIII> I will upgrade the test cluster tomorrow then | ||
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| [2010/01/26 01:18:45] <WALoeIII> and document getting it to run on Passenger with nginx (have to use an extra module to add the headers in) | ||
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| [2010/01/26 03:03:51] <tessier___> When creating users with puppet is it really necessary to specify the uid? Won't it just pick one? I am installing puppet on a bunch of machines that already have users with non-synchronized uids | ||
| [2010/01/26 03:04:18] <henk> not necessary | ||
| [2010/01/26 03:05:47] <tessier___> Cool. Every example I have seen specified uid so I was afraid it was necessary. | ||
| [2010/01/26 03:06:32] <henk> hm, at least i don't specify it and it works... | ||
| [2010/01/26 03:06:52] <nico> no need to specify | ||
| [2010/01/26 03:07:36] <tessier___> Would be nice if it would realize the users in order when they don't already exist so at least going forward I end up with consistent uids as I retire the old servers. | ||
| [2010/01/26 03:08:24] <nico> if you want consistent uids all across your machines use a centralised directory service | ||
| [2010/01/26 03:08:46] <tessier___> Yes. I'm afraid that would be overkill in our case with only three users. | ||
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| [2010/01/26 03:18:30] <tessier___> hmm...how can puppet restart puppet when you upgrade facter when puppet is doing the upgrading? | ||
| [2010/01/26 03:18:42] <tessier___> I don't the scripts in the rpm restart puppet. | ||
| [2010/01/26 03:18:48] <tessier___> s/don't/doubt/ | ||
| [2010/01/26 03:19:13] <tessier___> At least this way hopefully I won't get any new zombie processes even if the old puppet doesn't get restarted. | ||
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| [2010/01/26 06:12:02] <danielbln> is there a way to un-include a module/class? | ||
| [2010/01/26 06:12:23] <danielbln> like completely override a class, not just singluar resources | ||
| [2010/01/26 06:13:21] <monachus> danielbln: once it's been included, i don't think it can be removed | ||
| [2010/01/26 06:13:31] <monachus> but you can prevent it from being included in the first place | ||
| [2010/01/26 06:13:42] <monachus> with some sort of conditional/case statement | ||
| [2010/01/26 06:14:02] <danielbln> too bad, but I guess that's the road I'm gonna take | ||
| [2010/01/26 06:14:04] <danielbln> thx | ||
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| [2010/01/26 07:43:07] <danielbln> how would I go about checking if a class has been loaded in the current context? | ||
| [2010/01/26 07:43:23] <danielbln> something like "if foo::bar then xyz" | ||
| [2010/01/26 07:44:41] <ssm> danielbln: what are you trying to solve? | ||
| [2010/01/26 07:45:01] <danielbln> I'd like to skip some resources in case a subclass has been included | ||
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| [2010/01/26 08:05:21] <dotNox> is there any way to make puppet master/slave to report synthax errors via email ? tagmail does not want to work for some reason | ||
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| [2010/01/26 08:06:10] <henk> i'm using (parts of) the apache module by david schmidt (git.black.co.at) (and probably others)... _sometimes_ puppet seems to get the 'onlyif' for the module activation definition wrong and so those execs are run repeatedly although not necessary at all. has anyone experienced things like that as well? | ||
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| [2010/01/26 08:08:29] <henk> strange thing is that i have two apache modules configured the same way and only one of those is run more than once it seems... | ||
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| [2010/01/26 08:29:17] <ohadlevy> dotNox: you would probably need to parse the syslog output | ||
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| [2010/01/26 08:30:30] <ohadlevy> dotNox: or check client last compile time | ||
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| [2010/01/26 08:59:41] <zombied_> puppet doesn't seem to be respecting some of the fields I have in my crontab class | ||
| [2010/01/26 08:59:47] <zombied_> http://pastie.org/795008 | ||
| [2010/01/26 08:59:52] <zombied_> any ideas why? | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:00:28] <henk> zombied_: why what? | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:00:40] <danielbln> enclose your titles in quotes | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:00:42] <henk> zombied_: point out the error please... | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:00:56] <zombied_> Check out my pastie link | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:01:15] <henk> zombied_: that makes much more sense with an error message or a problem description... | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:01:15] <danielbln> it's all there in the crontab, is it not? | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:01:28] <zombied_> You'll see the root crontab get deleted, puppet get restarted, and the new crontab is wrong | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:02:04] <uphillian> looks like the yum one isn't right | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:02:30] <zombied_> the yum one is right, the linuxupdate one is wrong | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:02:41] <zombied_> it is supposed to run once a month on the 1st @ 3:15A | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:02:43] <henk> 'sigh' i love it... | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:03:06] <henk> zombied_: i recommend to read the smart questions howto... | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:04:12] <uphillian> the yum one is quite different or is it just truncated...it's missing the excludes, but yeah linux-update is missing monthday | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:04:50] <zombied_> Actually you are right, the yum update one is messed up too | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:04:55] <zombied_> it is missing a couple of the excludes | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:05:28] <zombied_> What I think is happening is I made changes to this /etc/puppet/manifests/classes/crontab.pp file, but when I restart puppet it is looking at a cached version | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:05:55] <zombied_> weeklyyumupdate and linuxupdate look like how they used to prior to my most recent edits | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:06:12] <uphillian> odd indeed | ||
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| [2010/01/26 09:06:49] <henk> zombied_: restart puppetd and look at the log | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:09:45] <zombied_> Failing due to cert errors it looks like | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:09:48] <zombied_> Jan 26 09:09:06 dukesrvi01 puppetmasterd[4668]: Allowing unauthenticated client localhost.localdomain(127.0.0.1) access to puppetca.getcert | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:09:57] <zombied_> but if I do a puppetca --list it isn't there | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:10:41] <uphillian> --list -a | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:12:37] <zombied_> localhost doesn't show up on a puppetca --list --all | ||
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| [2010/01/26 09:13:10] <uphillian> the client and the server are the same box in this case? | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:13:39] <zombied_> Yep | ||
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| [2010/01/26 09:15:20] <uphillian> so you specified puppet server as 127.0.0.1 then, well, localhost should be in /var/lib/puppet/ssl/ca/signed | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:16:54] <zombied_> It isn't, though | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:17:02] <zombied_> the full hostname is in there | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:18:00] <uphillian> then my guess is the client is presenting itself as localhost but using it's fqdn cert | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:18:28] <uphillian> if the fqdn in /etc/hosts by ip or attached to 127.0.0.1 | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:18:38] <uphillian> s/if/is | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:20:16] <ohadlevy> MattyM: ping | ||
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| [2010/01/26 09:20:52] <zombied_> 127.0.0.1 is associated to localhost or localhost.localdomain | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:21:02] <zombied_> I added the FQDN in there now | ||
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| [2010/01/26 09:21:39] <zombied_> If I ping that FQDN locally it resolves to 127.0.0.1 | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:22:42] <zombied_> Jan 26 09:21:47 dukesrvi01 puppetd[11607]: Could not retrieve catalog: Certificates were not trusted: SSL_connect returned=1 errno=0 state=SSLv3 read finished A: tlsv1 alert decrypt error | ||
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| [2010/01/26 09:23:03] <uphillian> I'd actually take the fqdn out of the localhost entry and set PUPPET_SERVER to the ip address of the server | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:23:11] <uphillian> it shouldn't leave the box anyway | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:23:26] <uphillian> well, actually host of the server not ip, sorry | ||
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| [2010/01/26 09:27:33] <zombied_> That didn't fix it, uphillian | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:27:41] <zombied_> I edited /etc/syslog/puppet | ||
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| [2010/01/26 09:30:30] <uphillian> debug the client connection and verify the client cert | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:30:30] <uphillian> openssl verify -CAfile /var/lib/puppet/ssl/certs/ca.pem /var/lib/puppet/ssl/certs/fqdn.pem | ||
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| [2010/01/26 09:31:13] <zombied_> says it is good | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:31:48] <uphillian> :-/ | ||
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| [2010/01/26 09:37:51] <Disconnect> anyone still using iclassify? working on some automation with capistrano and cloud servers, but I'm having issues getting nodes out of quarantine automatically | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:37:54] <zombied_> Do I run a risk of doing a puppetca --clear fqdn on the puppetmaster that is a client of itself? | ||
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| [2010/01/26 09:38:32] <uphillian> --clean should be fine | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:38:37] * ohadlevy thought iclassify is dead | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:40:16] <zombied_> I cleaned it, it requested a new cert, I signed it, and it complains still | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:40:43] <zombied_> It baffles me b/c I just created a cert and it doesn't trust it | ||
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| [2010/01/26 09:41:07] <Disconnect> ohadlevy: had to stop foreman. it was chewing up the mysql server with 75000 old-but-uncleared reports :/ i also haven't found a simple way to make it just freakin work if you aren't running it in your environment ;) (eg no netboot, homogenous servers w/ no need for a dozen dists, etc) | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:42:41] <Disconnect> at the end of the day though, i just want to create a node in puppet via capistrano and later remove said node. | ||
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| [2010/01/26 09:48:17] <ohadlevy> Disconnect: for the reports you can expire them, there is a rake tasks which does it | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:48:43] <ashp> oh god | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:48:44] <ohadlevy> Disconnect: no pressure, but if you have time, I would like to know what didnt fit | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:48:48] <ashp> the resumes puppet-users@ are sending me | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:48:51] <ashp> are better than my own | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:48:59] <ashp> my boss is gonna replace me at this rate :( | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:49:49] <ohadlevy> ashp: -) maybe it wasnt a good idea to broadcast ;) | ||
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| [2010/01/26 09:50:37] <ashp> this guy contributes to cobbler, is a RHCE, does puppet stuff and is probably in here | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:50:47] <ashp> HEY GUY FROM MO WHO SENT ME YOUR RESUME YOU CAN'T STEAL MY JOB!!! | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:50:52] <joe-mac> lol, ashp you should ahve included salary info | ||
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| [2010/01/26 09:51:09] <ashp> joe-mac: yeah really, that should scare off most people used to real money | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:51:14] <ashp> joe-mac: i like the benefits but boy does the salary stink | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:51:34] <jb> Disconnect: erm, I use foreman, and I do not use the netboot/dist/etc/bleh. | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:51:37] <jb> and it works great :) | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:51:40] <joe-mac> yea, it's a little on the low side, especially for this area, however it's also like geek cred and bennies of working at harvard | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:51:41] <ashp> I hate getting underpaid but where else is going to let me go workout for like 1.5 hours in the middle of the day and then leave for coffee 20 minutes after i get back | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:52:06] <ashp> also while it's 24x7 support I think I've had maybe.. two calls in two years, both of which were minor things | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:52:13] <joe-mac> lucky you | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:52:22] <ashp> i really love the environment and i love how i'm completely in charge of the unix side of things | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:52:30] <ashp> but i dislike the low salary as I have to pay rent! | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:52:39] <joe-mac> yea, you live out there in cambridge? | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:52:49] <joe-mac> i'm probably going to move to the west side of southie pretty soon | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:52:59] <jb> but who isn't a RHCE these days? :) | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:53:39] <Disconnect> ohadlevy: is there any capistrano integration? | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:53:49] <ashp> i'm not! | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:53:53] <ohadlevy> disconnect: there is something ever better ;) | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:54:05] <ashp> i'm in east boston atm | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:54:09] <Disconnect> ugh. shoulda dropped the old reports before starting the upgrade. | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:54:15] <ashp> looking around salem, malden, areas like that | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:54:18] <joe-mac> o nice, bit of a hike eh? | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:54:30] <ohadlevy> Disconnect: http://theforeman.org/wiki/foreman/Query_Interface | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:54:33] <joe-mac> yea, medford ain't too shabby these days either | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:54:38] <joe-mac> you from mass? | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:54:48] <ohadlevy> Disconnect: should be trivial to add the missing bit to cap | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:55:14] <ohadlevy> disconnect, if you want to talk about foreman, maybe join #theforeman, so we dont spam the #puppet channel ;) | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:55:20] <ashp> it sucks but.. it's cheaper.. | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:55:21] <Disconnect> ohadlevy: even better ..except for the fact that the existing cloud scripts are already capistrano and use the iclassify capistrano stuff. so "it works just like that" is gonna trump "this thing is super flexible and can even run emacs so its better" :) | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:55:23] <ashp> i'm from the uk, myself | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:55:26] <ashp> i only moved here 2 years ago | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:55:44] <jb> Disconnect: what didnt you like about foreman? you can disable all of the unattended installation stuff.. | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:56:28] <joe-mac> ashp: o nice | ||
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| [2010/01/26 09:57:48] <Disconnect> jb: felt like every time i went to do something i'd be stopped by the auto-install stuff. "no distribution found" (for some reason it detects most but not all of them) etc etc. so far what we need (partly because its what we have :) ..) is more like iclassify - a list of hosts with tags (classes) and facts (facts) | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:58:14] <jb> really? because thats all I use foreman for (assigning groups/classes to nodes).. no unattended stuff. | ||
| [2010/01/26 09:58:21] <jb> join #theforeman if you want some help.. | ||
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| [2010/01/26 10:18:03] <zombied_> Can anyone help me figure out why the puppetclient that is on the same server as the puppetmaster is spitting out this error? Jan 26 10:10:12 dukesrvi01 puppetd[16520]: Could not retrieve catalog: Certificates were not trusted: SSL_connect returned=1 errno=0 state=SSLv3 read finished A: tlsv1 alert decrypt erro | ||
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| [2010/01/26 10:47:52] <duritong_> zombied_: because there is a cert error, this depends heavily on your setup and how you run the client against the server. maybe you can tell a bit more | ||
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| [2010/01/26 10:49:18] <MattyM> ping ohadlevy | ||
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| [2010/01/26 10:58:57] <ohadlevy> MattyM: pong | ||
| [2010/01/26 10:59:09] <MattyM> hey ohadlevy | ||
| [2010/01/26 10:59:16] <MattyM> sorry about earlier, was in the DC | ||
| [2010/01/26 10:59:21] <ohadlevy> MattyM: whatsup | ||
| [2010/01/26 11:00:24] <MattyM> Earlier I was asking about accessing/modifying a host in foreman via rest api using hostname as a reference | ||
| [2010/01/26 11:00:30] <MattyM> ohadlevy, ^^ | ||
| [2010/01/26 11:00:54] <ohadlevy> MattyM: you mean without the host id but with a number? | ||
| [2010/01/26 11:01:04] <ohadlevy> s/number/fqdn/? | ||
| [2010/01/26 11:01:10] <MattyM> fqdn | ||
| [2010/01/26 11:01:13] <MattyM> yeah | ||
| [2010/01/26 11:01:35] <ohadlevy> what will you want to achieve ? | ||
| [2010/01/26 11:02:19] <MattyM> I want to be able to add/modify/delete a host using hostname via some external script (ruby or similar) | ||
| [2010/01/26 11:02:24] @ Quit: jsimpson: | ||
| [2010/01/26 11:02:44] <MattyM> mainly to do with EC2 stuff | ||
| [2010/01/26 11:02:45] <ohadlevy> so just use the console (or runner or rake) | ||
| [2010/01/26 11:03:26] <MattyM> hmmm console is viable, is there a faq on using that? | ||
| [2010/01/26 11:03:34] <ohadlevy> MattyM: join #theforeman and I'll show you an example | ||
| [2010/01/26 11:04:01] <MattyM> apologies, didn't realise there was a foreman channel :-) | ||
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| [2010/01/26 11:05:07] <ohadlevy> MattyM: I created it just not to upset any people who are not interested in foreman | ||
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| [2010/01/26 11:29:47] <nasrat> anyone here running puppet standalone? | ||
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| [2010/01/26 11:30:20] <ricdanger> hi there | ||
| [2010/01/26 11:30:30] <ricdanger> is here somebody responsible for foreman? | ||
| [2010/01/26 11:30:38] <ricdanger> I'm having this problem: http://pastebin.com/m25fa089f | ||
| [2010/01/26 11:38:10] <ohadlevy> ricdanger, i am on the way out, can you create an issue and i will have a look in a few hours? | ||
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| [2010/01/26 11:53:03] <ricdanger> ohadlevy: sure | ||
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| [2010/01/26 11:56:25] <Disconnect> anyone seen bgupta? | ||
| [2010/01/26 12:02:04] <Volcane> whats that? | ||
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| [2010/01/26 12:05:40] * mikepea is having a ball tracking down where 'err: Got an uncaught exception of type TypeError: can't convert String into Array' is coming from. | ||
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| [2010/01/26 12:09:47] <joe-mac> mikepea: somewhere in your manifests, setting some variable to something weird, or using a function to set a variable and it's doing a type conversion that doesbn't make sense | ||
| [2010/01/26 12:11:25] <joe-mac> hey Volcane do you have an mcollective puppet module? | ||
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| [2010/01/26 12:11:45] <Volcane> not realy one thats ready to share i dont think - relies on lots of my internal bits | ||
| [2010/01/26 12:12:13] <mikepea> joe-mac: yup. Know what the cause is - i'm upgrading PM from 0.24.7 to 0.25 - and am getting bitten by the 0.24.7 array flattening regression. | ||
| [2010/01/26 12:12:38] <mikepea> Finding where we assumed arrays get flattened is the fun bit | ||
| [2010/01/26 12:14:00] <joe-mac> o i c Volcane, probably going to put one together this week once i understand the system more completely. though i might end up relying on too much internal stuff too heh | ||
| [2010/01/26 12:14:19] <joe-mac> mikepea: yea luckily the upgrade to .25 was pretty smooth for me | ||
| [2010/01/26 12:14:39] <joe-mac> just waiting on that cron bug to get fixed, finish implementing mcollective, then cross my fingers and hope this bug in the nagios types is fixed | ||
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| [2010/01/26 12:22:25] <gpled> i am going to reinstall a box with puppet. is there a way to tell puppetca that boxA is going to ask. go ahead an sign it, when boxA asks? | ||
| [2010/01/26 12:22:54] <Volcane> add the hostname to autosign.conf | ||
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| [2010/01/26 12:23:16] <gpled> thanks | ||
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| [2010/01/26 12:24:49] <Volcane> but you probably need to clean the cert out too first | ||
| [2010/01/26 12:27:00] <gpled> can i use puppet to install xp boxes? | ||
| [2010/01/26 12:30:04] <fsweetser> probably not - puppet didn't have much in the way of windows support last I knew | ||
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| [2010/01/26 12:39:32] <bsund> I'm new to puppet.. is it possible to push from server? say you have 10 comps and you need to add let someone new in on all of those asap.. can you do the change on puppet master and push it? or do you need to sit back and wait? | ||
| [2010/01/26 12:41:11] <gpled> bsund: it is my understanding that you need to pull. if you could issue a command to restart the puppet service, it would pull at that time | ||
| [2010/01/26 12:41:47] <bsund> gpled, ya but restart on all the puppets then? | ||
| [2010/01/26 12:42:22] <bsund> It's scary with push though so I would understand if it doesn't support it | ||
| [2010/01/26 12:43:13] <monachus> bsund: there's no push. you can run puppetd --test to run puppet once, and with --tags to make it just process the class you care about (such as a user class to add a new user) | ||
| [2010/01/26 12:43:41] <monachus> it's the definition of "urgent" - how often do you need to add someone to the system OMG NOW and can't wait 30m? | ||
| [2010/01/26 12:43:49] <gpled> if i want to test a change, and not wait, i just ssh into the client, and restart the puppet service on that client. i am sure there is a way to automate that. | ||
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| [2010/01/26 12:44:11] <barn> gpled: you could use chef to automate restarting puppet | ||
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| [2010/01/26 12:44:13] <fsweetser> also, look into puppetrun | ||
| [2010/01/26 12:44:20] <monachus> gpled: don't restart - that's heavy. just run puppetd -vt --tags <whatever> to test your change and only your change | ||
| [2010/01/26 12:44:26] <monachus> no need to restart the daemon | ||
| [2010/01/26 12:44:34] <fsweetser> you can tell puppetd to listen on the network, and send "run right now" requests to it that way | ||
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| [2010/01/26 13:47:06] <roede> hey, so i am guessing that the user class will not copy contents of /etc/skel into the users home dir, correct? | ||
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| [2010/01/26 13:47:31] <roede> because i cant get it to copy anything in, even though the directory exists prior to user creation | ||
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| [2010/01/26 13:48:10] <ashp> my boss is killing me | ||
| [2010/01/26 13:48:17] <ashp> he wants our dev network to be capable of working as a clone of production | ||
| [2010/01/26 13:48:37] <chadh> ashp: seems reasonable ;-p | ||
| [2010/01/26 13:48:47] <ashp> but refuses to allow the netapp to be mountable from the dev network, or allow the loadbalancer (that uses magic scripts sometimes) access to the dev network | ||
| [2010/01/26 13:48:55] <ashp> it's like two opposite goals | ||
| [2010/01/26 13:49:02] <ashp> CLONE PRODUCTION BUT FOR SECURITY WE CAN'T SET IT UP LIKE PRODUCTION | ||
| [2010/01/26 13:49:25] <jrojas> sounds like a bad design | ||
| [2010/01/26 13:50:03] <chadh> ashp: then I guess you need to purchase duplicates for the dev network | ||
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| [2010/01/26 13:50:28] * chadh stayed up too late last night. feeling a little punchy | ||
| [2010/01/26 13:50:50] <ashp> chadh: yeah, that's what I told him too | ||
| [2010/01/26 13:51:08] <ashp> If they want me to make production automatically mirror over to dev then i need the same stuff on the other end | ||
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| [2010/01/26 13:52:12] <chadh> now that seems like a bad idea | ||
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| [2010/01/26 13:52:45] <jrojas> or you replace things with smart things like take a hw load balancer and in the dev environment use a software one etc. | ||
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| [2010/01/26 13:53:30] <Disconnect> roede: fyi there is a pam module/option to automatically create home dirs on first login. we use it (with ldap) to copy skel and such w/o getting puppet involved | ||
| [2010/01/26 13:53:50] <roede> hmm ok thx, ill check it out Disconnect | ||
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| [2010/01/26 14:20:38] <cheako> Hello, what's the word for an application that can safely be run repeatedly, F.E. by puppet? | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:23:02] <jrojas> http://pastie.org/795493 | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:23:51] <cheako> idempotent. | ||
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| [2010/01/26 14:31:25] <WALoeIII> gah make it stop | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:31:25] <WALoeIII> preferred_serialization_format | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:31:31] <jb> yeah | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:31:33] <WALoeIII> what is pson my google is failing me | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:31:33] <jb> annoying :( | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:31:40] <WALoeIII> Value of 'preferred_serialization_format' (pson) is invalid for report, using default (b64_zlib_yaml) | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:31:42] <WALoeIII> is there nothing I can do? | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:31:43] <jb> yeah, just ignore | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:31:43] <jrojas> pson == puppetj son | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:31:49] <WALoeIII> god | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:32:09] <WALoeIII> well 0.24.6 -> 0.25.3 went smoothly | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:32:26] <jrojas> im tracking down a bug that causes the puppetd clients to crash | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:32:32] <jrojas> my upgrade is pending on this | ||
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| [2010/01/26 14:40:04] <WALoeIII> I am getting weird things like Tue Jan 26 11:39:01 -0800 2010 //macchiato/File[/data/onehub/shared/config/memcached.yml]/content (notice): content changed '{md5}c108720821cb89376368954c7f9f0442' to 'unknown checksum' | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:40:10] <WALoeIII> why did the checksum changed to unknown | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:40:16] <|Mike|> no idea. | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:40:21] <WALoeIII> then another run moves it to a timestamp | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:40:31] <WALoeIII> doesn't hurt anything but just is odd to me | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:40:54] <jrojas> yeah its kinda weird sometimes | ||
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| [2010/01/26 14:52:38] <WALoeIII> default hostname puppetd looks for unless configured is puppet? or puppetmaster | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:52:51] <ptman> puppet | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:53:02] <|Mike|> what ptman said :-) | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:53:02] <WALoeIII> thansk | ||
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| [2010/01/26 14:53:20] <|Mike|> as long as it has an FQDN it works | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:53:33] <WALoeIII> fqdn? | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:53:36] <WALoeIII> why would it need that | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:53:53] <|Mike|> fully qualified doain name | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:53:55] <|Mike|> *domain | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:54:02] <WALoeIII> right why does it need an fqdn | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:54:05] <|Mike|> anyway, read about it in the puppet starters guide | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:54:07] <WALoeIII> does it do a dns lookup? | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:54:11] <|Mike|> nopes. | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:54:45] <|Mike|> As long as you put "1.1.1.1 puppet" in /etc/hosts it will work :-) | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:54:54] <|Mike|> (replace 1.1.1.1 with an ip) | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:55:07] <WALoeIII> thats what I've done | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:55:22] <|Mike|> ping puppet works? | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:55:48] <WALoeIII> yes | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:56:11] <|Mike|> then it should work (signed the cert already?) | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:56:14] <WALoeIII> hrmm though switching from a full address to an internal one is going to invalidate my certs | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:56:25] <WALoeIII> well I'm connecting to puppet.mydomain.com | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:56:35] <WALoeIII> which routes externally I would like to just route to the 10.x address | ||
| [2010/01/26 14:56:41] <WALoeIII> don't pay for bandwidth and can close 8140 to the world | ||
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| [2010/01/26 14:58:26] <WALoeIII> yeah, hostname was not match with the server certificate ok at least that is fixable | ||
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| [2010/01/26 14:59:23] <|Mike|> man puppetca | ||
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| [2010/01/26 15:45:06] <jrojas> Process.maxgroups | ||
| [2010/01/26 15:45:08] <jrojas> err | ||
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| [2010/01/26 16:21:00] <swankier> Hi guys | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:21:19] <swankier> I'm having a bit of trouble writing a particular configuration | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:30:02] <swankier> I have a method that configures a web server. I pass parameters to the method to setup multiple sites. what I want to do setup a samba share for each of these websites | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:30:14] <swankier> but I cannot figure out what the "puppet" way of doing this is | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:30:19] <swankier> I cannot figure out global variables | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:30:28] <swankier> and I don't understand which other language constructs would be useful for me | ||
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| [2010/01/26 16:47:06] <eric0> swankier: there's not a native type for samba config, so they're not "first class" resources the way, say, users or mounts or packages are | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:47:52] <eric0> just checked (haven't used this myself) and there is an augeas lens for samba, so you could check out wiki:PuppetAugeas and go that route | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:47:52] <gepetto> eric0: wiki:PuppetAugeas is http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetAugeas | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:48:54] <eric0> err -- by 'set up a samba share' do you mean the servers each mount a different share, or they are each sharing something over samba? | ||
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| [2010/01/26 16:50:21] <jbooth> swankier: check on the concat_file pattern (google it + puppet). Augeas isn't going to be much of a solution without writing your own resource and that's probably a bit beyond where you want to go when just starting. | ||
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| [2010/01/26 16:54:05] <eric0> yup, fair 'nuff | ||
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| [2010/01/26 16:55:07] <jbooth> Given puppet manifests can't iterate, I've not found any way to use the augeas type | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:56:22] <jrojas> jbooth: erb? | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:56:36] <jrojas> content => template("ting.erb") | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:56:40] <jrojas> :) | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:56:44] <jrojas> that will do iterations for you | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:56:50] <jrojas> well sort of | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:57:09] <jbooth> Only sort of. It doesn't have access to augeas so it can't iterate and inspect what exists | ||
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| [2010/01/26 16:57:47] <jrojas> but with augeas, dont you pretty much want to define the changes line by line? (i dont use it so i dont know) | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:58:25] <jbooth> not always. Sometimes you just want a line to exist. | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:58:45] <jbooth> Like with iptables to allow traffic. But you may not care about ordering, just existence. | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:59:18] <himynameisthor> I have a script that runs on one server, that contains a list of every host in my infrastructure (a couple of hundred). Is it possible to have puppet automatically generate that list every time the puppetmaster sees a new host? | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:59:42] <himynameisthor> i mean, is it possible to ask the puppetmaster for the hostnames of all the hosts it's managing? | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:59:45] <jrojas> himynameisthor: yes, look at exported resources and store configs | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:59:50] <himynameisthor> jrojas: thanks =] | ||
| [2010/01/26 16:59:55] <jbooth> But to use the augeas type to do that, you either have to assign a line number ssh will always be (difficult and cumbersome) or you have to be able to iterate through the rules that are there to see if it exists. | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:00:07] <jrojas> i see | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:04:55] <fsweetser> not necessarily | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:05:04] <fsweetser> there are some tricks you can play to avoid having to use a static line number | ||
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| [2010/01/26 17:24:51] <DieterVDW> hello | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:25:03] <DieterVDW> is it ok to fire puppet questions in here? | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:26:15] <jrojas> as long as you have read the documentation | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:26:19] <jrojas> :) | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:26:44] <DieterVDW> hmm, I'm just starting out so I won't say I've read all of it | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:26:53] <jrojas> thats alright too | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:27:18] <DieterVDW> but the file resource is quite basic and I can't get it working | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:27:36] <DieterVDW> I'm just trying to source a file to a node | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:27:42] <DieterVDW> it works when the file doesn't exist yet | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:28:00] <jrojas> use pastie and put your portion of the file declaration | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:28:06] <DieterVDW> but if it exists (and is different), puppetd just dumps a diff and kind of locks up | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:28:21] <DieterVDW> file { "/etc/puppet/puppet.conf": source => "puppet:///files/puppet/puppet.conf", replace => true, require => Package["puppet"] } | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:28:23] <DieterVDW> hmm | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:28:26] <DieterVDW> (webclient) | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:28:47] <jrojas> hm | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:29:00] <DieterVDW> i start puppetd manually for now with: puppetd -vt | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:29:19] <DieterVDW> I see a diff of the two files | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:29:24] <DieterVDW> and if I wait a while | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:29:27] <DieterVDW> a ruby error | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:29:38] <jrojas> use pastie.org and show the ruby error | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:29:49] <jrojas> what version of puppet client and puppet master? | ||
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| [2010/01/26 17:30:50] <DieterVDW> http://pastie.org/795821 | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:31:38] <DieterVDW> versions: puppetmaster: 0.24.4-8 , puppetd: 0.24.4-8 | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:31:44] <DieterVDW> (ubuntu packages) | ||
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| [2010/01/26 17:32:04] <DieterVDW> is this version considered 'old'? | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:32:12] <jrojas> yeah for the most part | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:32:21] <malclocke> would guess it is your filebucket setup | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:32:30] <jrojas> agreed | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:32:39] <jrojas> try adding backup => false | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:32:43] <jrojas> to the file definition | ||
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| [2010/01/26 17:34:00] <DieterVDW> crap, you're right | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:34:11] <DieterVDW> I had some default code copied from somewhere | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:34:18] <DieterVDW> filebucket { main: server => puppetmaster.siruna.com } | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:34:19] <DieterVDW> File { backup => main } | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:35:02] <DieterVDW> I'm don't understand entirely what was happening, but commenting this out made it work | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:35:16] <DieterVDW> better have another look at the filebucket docs | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:35:42] <malclocke> it was trying to send a backup of the file over http to that server | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:35:51] <malclocke> before overwriting | ||
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| [2010/01/26 17:36:41] <DieterVDW> so the timeout is probably to connect to the filebucket | ||
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| [2010/01/26 17:37:02] <DieterVDW> and the diff is what it's trying to send to the filebucket | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:37:23] <DieterVDW> hmm let's try to get that filebucket working, see what happens ... | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:37:39] <swankier> eric0, jbooth: sorry, after reading all of the comments posted... what's the general consensus on the best practice for managing samba shares? | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:38:13] <swankier> eric0: I'm setting up a samba share for each vhost on a webserver that has multiple vhosts, where the vhosts are defined by parameter | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:38:36] <swankier> ... hopefully I'm using the correct terminology. If not I could try and correct myself? | ||
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| [2010/01/26 17:43:40] <swankier> and about using augeus... I don't know if we're new to puppet... our puppet configs have over 4200 lines of puppet configuration. However, it's true that we haven't used augeus before | ||
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| [2010/01/26 17:44:59] <whack> I only have 3994 lines of puppet manifests :( | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:45:05] <jrojas> heh | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:46:18] <jrojas> that almost seems a bit excessive | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:46:57] <jrojas> then again | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:47:01] <jrojas> maybe not.... | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:47:06] <jrojas> 5477 including whitespace | ||
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| [2010/01/26 17:47:40] <whack> I'm sure I coudl drop 300-500 lines if I cleaned up 'old' manifest data that was for migrations | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:47:49] <swankier> agreed. | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:48:03] <swankier> we're always learning how to improve | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:48:11] <swankier> which is why I came to ask for pointers today :) | ||
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| [2010/01/26 17:50:11] <swankier> being able to use a "global variable" would really solve my problem quickly though | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:50:23] <jrojas> you pretty much can | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:50:30] <jrojas> if you do it properly.. | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:50:31] <jrojas> :) | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:50:48] <swankier> orly? :) | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:50:50] <swankier> how so? | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:50:53] <jrojas> i do it all the time | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:51:00] * swankier listens intently | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:51:12] <jrojas> i have a defaults.pp file with a bunch of variables for any one fo the three site locations I have, | ||
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| [2010/01/26 17:51:24] <swankier> so how do I have a class modify that? | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:51:34] <swankier> a class that defaults.pp would call? | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:51:36] <whack> you can't modify variables in another class | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:51:44] <jrojas> well these arent in a class :) | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:52:05] <jrojas> import "*.pp" in my site.pp | ||
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| [2010/01/26 17:53:59] <jrojas> i dont really modify my variables, they are for the most part static | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:54:10] <jrojas> altho, i will for some of my templated files | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:54:23] <jrojas> ie: $extra_cong_lines = [] | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:54:58] <jrojas> class blah inherits otherclass { $extra_cong_lines += ["blah" , "blah" ] ... | ||
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| [2010/01/26 17:57:47] <swankier> sure | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:57:55] <swankier> and then when that object exists... those changes do not persist... | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:57:56] <swankier> do they? | ||
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| [2010/01/26 17:58:10] <jrojas> well not for any machine | ||
| [2010/01/26 17:58:20] <jrojas> only for the machine that includes class blah | ||
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| [2010/01/26 17:59:50] <whack> jrojas: I use a concatonated file approach for that | ||
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| [2010/01/26 18:00:10] <whack> lots of things can feed data into a directory (by file), and one thing subscribes to all those files and will concat all them together to generate the real file | ||
| [2010/01/26 18:00:20] <whack> I do this for iptables, rsync, etc. | ||
| [2010/01/26 18:00:45] <jrojas> can concat files also say this file is the header this file is the footer? | ||
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| [2010/01/26 18:02:21] <swankier> :( | ||
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| [2010/01/26 18:02:31] <swankier> dear puppet devs... please make samba a first class citizen | ||
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| [2010/01/26 18:03:09] <jrojas> samba? uhg | ||
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| [2010/01/26 18:04:18] <swankier> yeah, sure... | ||
| [2010/01/26 18:04:22] <swankier> but the world uses it. | ||
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| [2010/01/26 18:04:31] <jrojas> not my world :) | ||
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| [2010/01/26 18:04:45] <swankier> if you had windows boxes on your network, you would. | ||
| [2010/01/26 18:05:05] <swankier> I trust it more than windows' nfs client. | ||
| [2010/01/26 18:05:19] <jrojas> i do | ||
| [2010/01/26 18:05:21] <jrojas> :) | ||
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| [2010/01/26 18:07:10] <swankier> is it possible to modify the contents of a parent's variables? | ||
| [2010/01/26 18:07:21] <jrojas> no | ||
| [2010/01/26 18:07:24] <jrojas> afaik its not | ||
| [2010/01/26 18:07:27] <swankier> with either inherits or include | ||
| [2010/01/26 18:07:30] <swankier> hmm. | ||
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| [2010/01/26 18:09:05] <jrojas> http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/LanguageTutorial#variable-scope | ||
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| [2010/01/26 18:10:10] <DieterVDW> Thanks for the help guys, I'm getting along just fine now! | ||
| [2010/01/26 18:10:12] <DieterVDW> bye | ||
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| [2010/01/26 20:59:16] <explody> anyone aware of any existing mechanisms for documenting puppet manifests, a la rdoc/doxygen? | ||
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| [2010/01/26 20:59:25] <ohadlevy> puppetdoc | ||
| [2010/01/26 20:59:50] <explody> oh duh | ||
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| [2010/01/26 21:00:09] * explody fails at the obvious | ||
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| [2010/01/26 21:05:35] <yoasif> i'm trying to have puppet create a database and some database users in mysql -- can i string two commands together? i seem to get syntax errors whenever i try | ||
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| [2010/01/26 21:08:03] <bodepd> yoasif: what do you mean by string commands together. | ||
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| [2010/01/26 21:08:37] <bodepd> yoasif: maybe you mean with &&? | ||
| [2010/01/26 21:08:47] <yoasif> bodepd, well, i want to create a databaase, then a user and then grant the privs | ||
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| [2010/01/26 21:08:53] <yoasif> so && will work? | ||
| [2010/01/26 21:09:03] <bodepd> yes. | ||
| [2010/01/26 21:09:33] <bodepd> I think its best to have separate execs for that. | ||
| [2010/01/26 21:09:53] <bodepd> you can specify order with require/before between the execs. | ||
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| [2010/01/26 21:12:10] <bodepd> I would search for existing examples if you are using mysql. http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetModules | ||
| [2010/01/26 21:13:01] <yoasif> bodepd, i am using an existing example, but im not seeing anything about adding databases and stuff, just for changing the root pass | ||
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| [2010/01/26 21:22:54] <explody> does puppetdoc read comments all through a class, or only the comment block at the top of the manifest? | ||
| [2010/01/26 21:23:12] <explody> ah, the latter | ||
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| [2010/01/26 21:44:41] <yoasif> what is the easiest way to see exactly what commands puppet is running | ||
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| [2010/01/26 22:13:32] <yoasif> am i doing something obviously wrong here? http://pastebin.com/m1997342d | ||
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