Saturday, 2010-02-06

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[2010/02/06 00:19:57] <gepetto> ::trac:: Frequently Asked Questions edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions?version=76
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[2010/02/06 06:50:03] <ohadlevy> joe-mac:ping
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[2010/02/06 07:09:06] <fluxdude> is it possible in puppet to control the default gateway on puppet managed machines?
[2010/02/06 07:09:23] <fluxdude> I'd like to make sure that a certain machine's default gateway is corrected if it's not pointing to the right place...
[2010/02/06 07:25:28] <hggh> fluxdude: #2761
[2010/02/06 07:25:28] <gepetto> hggh: fluxdude: #2761 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/2761 "Puppet - Feature #2761: Support for routes/ network configuration - ReductiveLabs.com"
[2010/02/06 07:36:46] <ohadlevy> fluxdude: you can do it with simple templtes
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[2010/02/06 07:59:46] <gepetto> ::trac:: Whos Using Puppet edited @ http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/WhosUsingPuppet?version=199
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[2010/02/06 10:18:38] <joe-mac> this is infuriating
[2010/02/06 10:18:51] <joe-mac> gotta be the third time someone from splunk basically asks me if I've RTFMd
[2010/02/06 10:19:19] <joe-mac> if i include a configuration that isn't there in the stock install, and can only be created if you're RTFMd, why are you asking me?
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[2010/02/06 10:36:46] <warreng> joe-mac: hmm... have you RTFM?
[2010/02/06 10:36:59] <warreng> :-D
[2010/02/06 10:37:00] <joe-mac> lol...
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[2010/02/06 12:17:42] <joe-mac> has anybody had a problem where a node is basically stuck in a dev envuironment
[2010/02/06 12:18:06] <joe-mac> and even running puppetd -t --environment=production after ckleanuing out /var/lib/puppet/state/* and making sure nothing was in puppet.conf?
[2010/02/06 12:18:15] <joe-mac> it's still looking in the old environment
[2010/02/06 12:20:38] <joe-mac> i canot for the life of me get this box to go into the prod environment
[2010/02/06 12:20:48] <joe-mac> it stays in the 'jmcdonagh' one, whichi s my dev envrionment for myself
[2010/02/06 12:22:24] <joe-mac> ok had to clean out client_yaml/ too
[2010/02/06 12:22:27] <joe-mac> christ
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[2010/02/06 17:36:47] <sebas891> hi folks, I'm having timeout error on a puppet client, is there a way to debug that? I already use puppetd --test --debug on the client have more info.
[2010/02/06 17:37:55] <|Mike|> can you ping your "puppet" ?
[2010/02/06 17:39:26] <sebas891> yes.
[2010/02/06 17:40:01] <sebas891> and from the puppetmaster I can ping the client as well.
[2010/02/06 17:40:22] <sebas891> I mean "ping puppet" and "ping marcos"
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[2010/02/06 17:41:46] <|Mike|> signed the certificates etc ?
[2010/02/06 17:41:54] <sebas891> yes.
[2010/02/06 17:42:05] <sebas891> http://pastebin.com/m57179962
[2010/02/06 17:42:47] <|Mike|> what version is your puppet client and master running?
[2010/02/06 17:43:44] <sebas891> client : ii puppet 0.25.1-2~bpo50+
[2010/02/06 17:44:04] <sebas891> puppetmaster 0.25.1-3
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[2010/02/06 17:45:25] <sebas891> it used to work... that's what puzzles me.
[2010/02/06 17:49:10] <|Mike|> configured firewalls in the mean time ?
[2010/02/06 17:50:01] <sebas891> nope.
[2010/02/06 17:50:19] <sebas891> it works fine on the other hosts...
[2010/02/06 17:51:03] <|Mike|> run kickpuppet ? :)
[2010/02/06 17:52:11] <sebas891> I try that as well. ;)
[2010/02/06 17:52:37] <|Mike|> you're using passenger / mongrels / webrick ?
[2010/02/06 17:53:57] <sebas891> webrick, the default in the debian package.
[2010/02/06 17:54:19] <|Mike|> I just installed it on 2 clean vm's and it works like a charm
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[2010/02/06 17:56:33] <sebas891> nice.
[2010/02/06 17:58:34] <|Mike|> you've tried apt-get --purge remove puppet / puppetmaster and reinstall on both of em ?
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[2010/02/06 18:00:15] <fluxdude> I've got a weird problem
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[2010/02/06 18:00:34] <sebas891> well..., reinstalling the puppetmaster, seems to be extreme mesure, imho.
[2010/02/06 18:00:54] <fluxdude> I have written an rsyslog module in the same way as I have written syslog and syslog-ng modules before and thousands of lines of other puppet code, but in this instance the service rsyslog doesn't seem to work properly
[2010/02/06 18:01:14] <fluxdude> on the first run it failed to start the service exiting with 1, on subsequent runs of --test it did absolutely nothing
[2010/02/06 18:01:28] <fluxdude> despite the service being switched off, nothing was logged and I have ensure => running
[2010/02/06 18:01:58] <|Mike|> sebas891: I have to agree with that.
[2010/02/06 18:01:59] <fluxdude> also, I don't know how service rsyslog start failed and returned 1 since it happened at the end and when I type service rsyslog start it just works
[2010/02/06 18:02:25] <|Mike|> sebas891: You're using Ferm for firewalling btw?
[2010/02/06 18:02:46] <sebas891> |Mike|: I"m trying to remove configurations in the node that is timing out. to see with just the basic if it's working...
[2010/02/06 18:03:00] <sebas891> |Mike|: nope. no fw at all.
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[2010/02/06 18:04:53] <|Mike|> don't forget to remove the certificate btw
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[2010/02/06 18:06:03] <|Mike|> fluxdude: does syslog have an start/stop script ?
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[2010/02/06 18:06:11] <fluxdude> yes
[2010/02/06 18:06:13] <fluxdude> figured it out
[2010/02/06 18:06:14] <|Mike|> or is it able to start/stop ?
[2010/02/06 18:06:17] <fluxdude> the search is broken
[2010/02/06 18:06:27] <fluxdude> using hasstatus works though since the init script is decent
[2010/02/06 18:07:05] <fluxdude> funny thing though, I'd actually expect the search to trigger every time instead it's finding some pid even though there is no rsyslog process or even any process with that string in it
[2010/02/06 18:07:13] <fluxdude> ah well, works now
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[2010/02/06 18:08:52] <bodepd> flexdude: the default is to search for a process matching name (or title if name is not defined), a common problem when not using hasstatus=true is that it thinks it isnt running then it is, thus calling start (when its already started) which returns an error.
[2010/02/06 18:09:17] <bodepd> there is a then=when in there
[2010/02/06 18:09:42] <bodepd> you should be able to see what string its using to search when running with --debug
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[2010/02/06 18:46:32] <sebas891> |Mike|: hey, my client is not timing out anymore! :) I didn't re-install neither the server and client, I had a module that was messing up!
[2010/02/06 18:47:06] <sebas891> with patience, one can solve "almost" everything :)
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[2010/02/06 19:15:32] <sebas891> folks, at least, on older version of puppet, the puppet client gets confused between freebsd and debian as provider.
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[2010/02/06 19:16:41] <sebas891> how can I declare the provider "globally" ?
[2010/02/06 19:16:57] <bodepd> you could set a resource default at the global scope.
[2010/02/06 19:17:46] <bodepd> this sounds like a problem with facter
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[2010/02/06 19:20:41] <sebas891> probably. How can I set a default globally?
[2010/02/06 19:21:09] <bodepd> in site.pp set Package{ provider => 'blah' }
[2010/02/06 19:21:27] <bodepd> s/Package/yourresource/
[2010/02/06 19:22:08] <bodepd> also clearly 'set' is the verb in the explanation sentence and not a puppet keyword.
[2010/02/06 19:23:24] <sebas891> Package{ provider => 'Debian' }
[2010/02/06 19:23:28] <sebas891> would do.
[2010/02/06 19:23:29] <sebas891> ?
[2010/02/06 19:23:49] <bodepd> no, the provider is the name of the package provider.
[2010/02/06 19:24:00] <bodepd> Package{provider => 'apt-get'}
[2010/02/06 19:24:31] <sebas891> ah ok.
[2010/02/06 19:25:14] <bodepd> to see a list of whats available, check /usr/lib/site_ruby/1.8/puppet/providers/package/
[2010/02/06 19:26:09] <qweqweqwe> is there a syntax checker for .pp files, something to check them on the puppetmaster server before puppetd clients start to complain?
[2010/02/06 19:26:19] <bodepd> yeah, you can use
[2010/02/06 19:26:25] <bodepd> puppet --parseonly file.pp
[2010/02/06 19:26:46] <qweqweqwe> cool thanks
[2010/02/06 19:26:49] <bodepd> this will only check syntax
[2010/02/06 19:26:55] <bodepd> puppet --noop file.pp
[2010/02/06 19:26:58] <bodepd> is a little better
[2010/02/06 19:28:01] <qweqweqwe> so if i did that to site.pp would it run through all the includes etc?
[2010/02/06 19:28:55] <bodepd> it should, but it wouldnt know what node to test with.
[2010/02/06 19:29:09] <bodepd> also, you need to make sure that modulepath is configured correcgtly
[2010/02/06 19:29:40] <bodepd> actually, let me play with that :)
[2010/02/06 19:29:55] <qweqweqwe> i just added a line
[2010/02/06 19:30:14] <qweqweqwe> "syntax_error_test" to a .pp file, and parseonly didn't complain
[2010/02/06 19:30:21] <qweqweqwe> :-S ?
[2010/02/06 19:30:23] <sebas891> bodepd: thanks, I'm almost there! the provider is "apt" and not "apt-get"
[2010/02/06 19:31:14] <sebas891> I understood now that i'm looking for the provider of service, and not package.
[2010/02/06 19:31:52] <bodepd> yes, each resource type has a provider.
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[2010/02/06 19:33:29] <bodepd> qweqweqwe: that doesnt sound right
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[2010/02/06 19:42:01] <qweqweqwe> bodepd: i agree
[2010/02/06 19:42:15] <bodepd> you test is that same as http://pastie.org/812888
[2010/02/06 19:42:47] <bodepd> it could be a scoping issue, can you past the file?
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[2010/02/06 19:43:55] <bodepd> actually, scope doesnt matter for parsing erros
[2010/02/06 19:44:57] <qweqweqwe> umm i did "puppet --parseonly --verbose site.pp -l /tmp/error-test
[2010/02/06 19:45:15] <qweqweqwe> where /tmp/error-test becomes an empty file
[2010/02/06 19:45:31] <bodepd> I dont know the -l option (although I can guess what it doesn) :)
[2010/02/06 19:45:34] <qweqweqwe> and the line "syntax_error_check" was added to site.pp
[2010/02/06 19:45:47] <qweqweqwe> -l log file location
[2010/02/06 19:46:09] <qweqweqwe> :-)
[2010/02/06 19:47:01] <bodepd> can you pastie site.pp?
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[2010/02/06 19:52:34] <bodepd> I am playing with examples now. Obviouslt --parseonly is less than ideal.
[2010/02/06 19:53:02] <bodepd> I think --noop is a lot better because it not only parses, it also compiles and applies.
[2010/02/06 19:55:39] <bodepd> can you show me the exact line? I have an idea what the problem might be.
[2010/02/06 19:56:00] <bodepd> the line syntax error
[2010/02/06 19:56:07] <bodepd> syntax error
[2010/02/06 19:56:55] <bodepd> does not cause a parse error, my guess is that the parser cannot make an assumption that there is no function called 'syntax' that takes an argument.
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[2010/02/06 20:06:09] <qweqweqwe> bodepd: when you say -noop "applies" does this change anything?
[2010/02/06 20:06:25] <bodepd> nope.
[2010/02/06 20:06:41] <bodepd> it shows what would change if it was allowed to.
[2010/02/06 20:06:48] <qweqweqwe> ok, will try - ah
[2010/02/06 20:09:36] <qweqweqwe> bodepd: thanks, i get it now, seems to work fine :-)
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[2010/02/06 21:18:57] <ohadlevy> joe-mac: the reason I've mentioned func is because there was a section in their wiki about reusing puppet certfiicates and the need to strip the password from the cert, not really sure (didnt look too much into it), but I reuse puppet certificates in apache.... so i'm not really sure if its password protected..
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