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| [2010/02/22 03:56:46] <tim|imac> hm... are there augeas masters in here? I'm looking for examples to do fairly simple stuff, but cannot easily find anything online... | ||
| [2010/02/22 03:57:41] <tim|imac> in particular, I'm working with the aptpreferences lens and it keeps adding the new pinning at the end of preferences :S | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:00:31] <Djelibeybi> tim|imac: ping lutter -- he wrote Augeas. :) | ||
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| [2010/02/22 04:04:02] <tim|imac> think I found my solution :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:04:57] <Djelibeybi> tim|imac: huzzah. That was quick | ||
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| [2010/02/22 04:05:19] <tim|imac> meh, might not be it though... I'll try the mailinglist :) | ||
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| [2010/02/22 04:27:18] <geekatcmu> I was sad about augeas in puppet: no negative matches. e.g. only add this key if it doesn't exist. | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:27:48] <geekatcmu> Specifically, I was updating /etc/groups. | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:28:43] <tim|imac> so it might not be my lack of knowledge but a problem with the way it's implemented? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 04:29:23] <geekatcmu> Depending on what you want to do, yes. | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:30:02] <geekatcmu> I could have used augtool, but I was just as happy to use sed in this case. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 04:32:39] <tim|imac> geekatcmu: if you have the time, could you take a look at my message to the ml about it? http://bit.ly/blo1Wd | ||
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| [2010/02/22 04:34:44] <geekatcmu> Yeah, that's definitely something I'd do differently. | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:35:33] <geekatcmu> As in, I'd use an "exec" instead of an "augeas". | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:35:55] <tim|imac> I actually thought the augeas was a good resource for these kind of things :/ | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:36:23] <geekatcmu> My experiences with Augeas have all been of the "great if Augeas has a lens for a file with non-trivial structure, and pointless otherwise". | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:36:35] <geekatcmu> That was my original thought, too. | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:36:42] <geekatcmu> I have, sadly, learned otherwise. | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:36:52] <geekatcmu> That said, I hardly consider myself an expert. | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:37:07] <geekatcmu> I'm just a guy trying to get some work done. | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:37:17] * tim|imac has actually been writing lenses as preperation of using augeas from puppet :/ | ||
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| [2010/02/22 04:37:47] <geekatcmu> I thought about doing that myself (for updating nsswitch.conf). | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:38:12] <geekatcmu> In my case, it turns out not to be necessary as a properly configured nsswitch.conf will DTRT regardless of what modules are installed. | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:39:25] <tim|imac> ah | ||
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| [2010/02/22 04:44:10] <kc7zzv> Can't you just add that as a whole managed file in apt/preferences.d/ ? | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:44:45] <kc7zzv> Or does that not in your distro? | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:45:34] <tim|imac> I don't think lenny's apt has support for a preferences.d, afaik | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:45:40] <tim|imac> haven't really looked into it, though | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:45:43] <tim|imac> will check | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:45:58] <tim|imac> but the augeas was expected to work too :/ | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:46:35] * geekatcmu likes managed files. | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:47:07] <tim|imac> no mention on apt_preferences' man page about preferences.d :( | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:47:25] <geekatcmu> Now, if only the ssh_authorized_key type didn't insist on date stamping the file, thus causing it to be rewritten every single time puppet runs. | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:47:33] <kc7zzv> I only like managed files if the file doesn't exist before I start. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 04:47:56] <kc7zzv> I agree with you on that. ssh_authorized_key is really annoying. | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:48:03] <tim|imac> it's actually a year-old feature request, debian bug #514819 | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:48:28] <tim|imac> preferences.d, i mean | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:49:02] <tim|imac> geekatcmu: we don't have that problem... which version of puppet are you using? | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:49:09] <Volcane> if your ssh_authorized_key is being redone every run you've done something wrong | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:49:11] <geekatcmu> 24.8 | ||
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| [2010/02/22 04:49:17] <kc7zzv> 24.8 | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:49:26] <tim|imac> we didn't have that problem in 24.8 nor in 25.4 | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:49:33] <kc7zzv> I can't use 0.25.4 right now. | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:49:48] <kc7zzv> I heard it's fixed in 25.x | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:49:48] <tim|imac> so I think there's something else wrong there | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:50:14] <tim|imac> we're still using 24.8 at several places, but haven't seen that problem... and we use ssh_authorized_key a lot | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:50:30] <kc7zzv> I'm stuck on http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/3083 | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:50:32] <geekatcmu> Yeah, it's 0.24.8. | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:51:15] <geekatcmu> And the target authorized_keys file has 3 lines beginning with "# HEADER:", the first of which has a time stamp, thus leading to the problem of the file being updated every time. | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:51:45] <kc7zzv> Until that bug is fixed, I can't move to 0.25 and use packages. | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:51:48] <geekatcmu> It may make a difference that the file did not exist previous to puppet's stuff. | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:52:00] <kc7zzv> Same with me. | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:52:03] <geekatcmu> s/stuff/efforts/ | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:53:14] <Dominic> geekatcmu: hm, we get the same issue with 24.8. I've been meaning to look into it, but it wasn't doing any harm, so haven't worried about it | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:53:27] <kc7zzv> I | ||
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| [2010/02/22 04:54:40] <kc7zzv> I'm planning to switch to managed files for ssh_authorized_key as soon as I get around to it. | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:54:45] <kjetilho> geekatcmu: ssh_authorized_keys works for us, too. but it's really picky, and if you add extra spaces to your values, it's happy to add the same key on every run, so you get megabyte large files... | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:55:31] <kjetilho> (this slows down the Puppet run, too, it spends quite a bit of time parsing it on startup :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:57:06] <tim|imac> kc7zzv: ha! /etc/preferences.d support has been added in apt 0.7.22, lenny uses 0.7.20 :( | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:57:07] * Volcane just copies out files, have the bonus of *knowing* whats int he .ssh files unlike with the type where u just dont know who has done what to the file | ||
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| [2010/02/22 04:58:54] <kjetilho> Volcane: you can always use purge | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:59:06] <Volcane> last time i checked it didnt support purge | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:59:15] <Volcane> does it in 0.25? | ||
| [2010/02/22 04:59:48] <kc7zzv> Good news on one point. Debian testing has apt 0.7.25.3 | ||
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| [2010/02/22 05:00:46] <kc7zzv> kjetilho: You willing to take a look at my ssh manifest? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 05:01:38] <kjetilho> kc7zzv: sorry, no | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:03:00] <kc7zzv> Alright. I just thought this was a known bug before now. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 05:07:24] * Volcane 's 0.24.8 doesnt rebuild the ssh key file everytime due to the timestamp | ||
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| [2010/02/22 05:07:33] <Volcane> it ignores those headers in determining if it should change | ||
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| [2010/02/22 05:10:16] <tim|imac> kc7zzv: do you have any other file resources pointing towards that file, by any chance? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 05:15:07] <kc7zzv> Nope. | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:15:40] <Volcane> is there a pastie for this? | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:15:49] <kc7zzv> My config? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 05:17:01] <Volcane> yeah whatever problem you're having, logs etc? | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:17:23] <kc7zzv> Here's the bit from the config. | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:17:24] <kc7zzv> http://www.pastebin.com/m5c629290 | ||
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| [2010/02/22 05:19:03] <kc7zzv> Each time I run puppet with verbose it gives me these messages. (As well as a few catalog info messages) | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:19:48] <kc7zzv> notice: //Node[servername.domain]/server-loadset/base-loadset/remote-access/Ssh_authorized_key[patrick-cascade-4096-root]/target: target changed '/root/.ssh/authorized_keys' to '/root/.ssh/authorized_keys' | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:20:07] <Volcane> add target => "/root/.ssh/authorized_keys" | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:20:11] <kc7zzv> It also gives a filebucket message too. | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:20:26] <Volcane> its a old bug but thats the work around | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:20:39] <kc7zzv> Thanks. | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:21:49] <kc7zzv> Any idea if this bug is in 0.25.4? | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:22:12] <Volcane> think its fixed | ||
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| [2010/02/22 05:24:04] <kc7zzv> That was really strange. | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:24:28] <kc7zzv> I didn't know it was possible to run two copies of puppetd at the same time as the same user. | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:25:01] <kc7zzv> Not that I meant to do it. | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:25:31] <tim|imac> i actually do that a lot... | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:25:50] <kc7zzv> Accident? | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:25:58] <tim|imac> we have puppetd running in the background and have an alias 'kickpuppet' that starts a once run of puppetd with output to the console | ||
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| [2010/02/22 05:26:46] <Volcane> you can run 2, they just cant be running a catalog at the same time, and you cant run 2 in the background | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:26:58] <tim|imac> indeed | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:27:34] <kc7zzv> Do you know of a reason someone would want to do that? | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:28:32] <Volcane> you can have a daemon running, and still run puppetd --test | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:28:45] <Volcane> if the daemon happens to be doing work at the time, the --test will fail | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:29:12] <fred> Just to double check - is it fine to use puppetmaster 0.25 with puppet 0.24 ? | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:29:33] <kc7zzv> I see. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 05:40:17] <tim|imac> fred: yes it is | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:40:21] <tim|imac> we do that in a lot of setups | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:40:33] <tim|imac> we start with upgrading the puppetmaster and then slowly upgrade the clients | ||
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| [2010/02/22 05:57:12] <zipkid> do you need to config the puppetmaster ssl dir to be different from the client instance on the puppet server? | ||
| [2010/02/22 05:58:09] <tim|imac> no | ||
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| [2010/02/22 06:03:52] <geekatcmu> Volcane: thanks, that fixed it. Too bad this work-around isn't *documented* anywhere. | ||
| [2010/02/22 06:04:26] <Volcane> its no doubt mentioned on the tickets about it :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 06:04:59] <geekatcmu> yyyeeeeeeah | ||
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| [2010/02/22 06:22:04] <astinus> am seeing unusual problems with Puppet where it gobbles through memory processing a moderately small manifest. We do manage a lot of file and directory permissions, plus install/maintain some 200+ packages (basically lots of Perl libraries) | ||
| [2010/02/22 06:22:29] <astinus> the graph it generates for dependency resolution is pretty huge at this point. memory usage is near 160MB when running through the manifest on a Puppet client | ||
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| [2010/02/22 06:22:50] <astinus> has anyone seen this one before? anyone out there with a decently large number of nodes, and a big manifest? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 06:54:06] <zipkid> http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341d3df553ef012877834cb2970c-pi | ||
| [2010/02/22 06:54:08] <zipkid> ooops | ||
| [2010/02/22 06:54:15] <zipkid> wrong channel... | ||
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| [2010/02/22 06:57:15] <tim|imac> astinus: do you see that on the server or on the client? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 08:18:12] <sts> hello folks. I'm trying to use the puppet-shorewall module (which uses modules-common from davidS). I see the files to be generated in /var/lib/puppet/modules/shorewall on the client, but it doesn't update /etc/shorewall. Any ideas why this could be? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 08:34:59] <duritong> sts: it doesn't update the files in /etc/shorewall | ||
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| [2010/02/22 08:35:19] <duritong> it configures shroewall to use the files in /var/lib/puppet/modules/shorewall | ||
| [2010/02/22 08:35:24] <duritong> shorewall | ||
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| [2010/02/22 09:13:35] <Osax> How do I change an ip address using puppet? | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:14:34] <Osax> Anyone here? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 09:16:10] <Volcane> it doesnt have native interface support, u need to edit/replace the needed files | ||
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| [2010/02/22 09:16:28] <Osax> How do I change an ip address using puppet? | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:17:11] <Volcane> osax: it doesnt have native interface support, u need to edit/replace the needed files | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:17:27] <Osax> ah thank you. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 09:17:50] <Osax> I guess I can only edit with a template? | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:18:14] <Osax> because there is no native text edit support | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:18:17] <Volcane> augeas might help | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:18:57] <Osax> it looks good, thanx | ||
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| [2010/02/22 09:26:14] <tim|imac> does anyone by any chance have a puppet function that converts "true","false","0","1" to either "0" or "1"? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 09:26:41] <z00dax> I have a slightly odd situation, in that I want to be able to have rpm like conflicts: in manifests | ||
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| [2010/02/22 09:27:13] <z00dax> eg. not being able to include => nginx; if already included => nginx-passenger; | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:27:46] <z00dax> one way of doing this seems to be to have a single common file, and have all the manifest's provide that ( well, all of them that need to conflict ) - and have it fail that way | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:27:54] <tim|imac> z00dax: I'd do it like if defined(Class["nginx-passenger"]) { fail("Complaint.") } | ||
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| [2010/02/22 09:28:14] <z00dax> another seems to be to carry a variable throught he system, and have each manifest test if its already included. and fail that way | ||
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| [2010/02/22 09:28:53] <Volcane> z00dax: they're working on that afaik | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:28:54] <z00dax> tim|imac: however, can you be somewhat sure that this will get evaluated after the nginx-passenger snippet ? | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:29:34] <tim|imac> z00dax: I think so, but you might be correct | ||
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| [2010/02/22 09:30:25] <z00dax> tim|imac: because otherwise, you need to have the nginx-passenger snippet also check for nginx; and that means everything needs to cover every angle. | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:31:08] <z00dax> Volcane: humm ok :) I guess its a case of providing a common file for now then, and have it fail that way :/ not nice though; but atleast it breaks before any system change is done | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:31:40] * Volcane 's liking the idea of per-box masterless operation more and more | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:32:04] <Volcane> you can provide a map of versions/modules/etc per box and some script on the box can git checkout just what it needs and run | ||
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| [2010/02/22 09:32:23] <Volcane> perhaps with some secure extlookup style facility to fetch config variables set centrally | ||
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| [2010/02/22 09:37:02] <z00dax> Volcane: on my own personal setup, I've used a masterless puppet for ~ 2 years now. | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:37:31] <z00dax> but as you pointed out, one needs to be on a faily trusted setup end to end; since the git pull will get everything | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:37:37] <Volcane> yeah | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:37:50] <Volcane> lots of ways around it though | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:38:04] <z00dax> also, the puppet:// url's for file source=> fail, need to file:/// url those, which then means going to a partial master and partial masterless needs tweaking | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:38:05] <Volcane> file sources being the biggest problem right | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:38:19] <Volcane> z00dax: puppet:/// works | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:38:20] <z00dax> I ended up using a function that did the mapping based on hostname | ||
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| [2010/02/22 09:38:54] <z00dax> really ? is that something new though ? it used to fail with a hostname issue for me. | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:39:06] <z00dax> or that might be since i still had a puppet server setup in puppet.conf | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:39:23] <Volcane> puppet://puppet/ fails puppet:/// turns into file ones when run locally | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:40:24] <z00dax> cool, i should revisit that | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:41:21] <Volcane> anyway. so i imagine each box/role of box have a seperate git repo for its special case files | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:41:31] <Volcane> with default files living in the module | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:41:55] <Volcane> so when you check out the repos to construct the local puppet repo you just get all the common modules, the fqdn file and the role files if any is specified in a local fact | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:42:14] <z00dax> yeah | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:42:21] <Volcane> need some form of auth on the git repo though | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:43:01] <z00dax> Ramerith is doing something similar for his setup - specially since they have a bunch of diff projects hosting there with them | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:43:26] <z00dax> he is either doing it already or thinking of doing it | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:44:06] <Volcane> Ramerith? | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:44:39] <z00dax> Ramereth -> Lance Alberton @osuosl :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:45:00] <tim|imac> if I create a custom function, does the puppetmaster need to include the class that contains it? I see my function getting copied to the client, but the server gives back it doesn't know it... | ||
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| [2010/02/22 09:45:24] <z00dax> he's looking to get a puppet setup in place that they can use as a shared resource at osuosl - but each project they host for gets their own branch/ git-external-module with a puppet/modules/* being shared | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:45:34] <z00dax> Volcane: ^ | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:46:01] <Volcane> yeah thinking about something similar atm, its hard | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:46:21] <Volcane> well its not impossible, dealing with data is hard | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:46:32] <astinus> if you're just distributing files then it isn't too tricky, but if you want modules 'n stuff to be run .... harder :) | ||
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| [2010/02/22 09:47:50] <Volcane> yeah, u need very configurable modules using data like extdata for the module behaviour | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:48:01] <Volcane> and files should support fetching from a per box/client/role space | ||
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| [2010/02/22 09:51:27] <z00dax> Volcane: i feel it might boil down to setting a process in place and discipline; to maintain a setup of that nature. with only modules in the core repo and all manifests from external modules | ||
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| [2010/02/22 09:52:17] <Volcane> lots of dicipline and process for sure. but also extremely high quality modules that have a ton of knobs to tweak | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:52:21] <Volcane> thats where the problem lies :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:53:46] <tim|imac> z00dax: another way is probably to make one nginx module that does package { "nginx":; } and inherit it everywhere else | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:54:07] <tim|imac> you'll at least get an error :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:54:26] <tim|imac> you can then make the error nicer by wrapping the package{} in an if defined | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:54:52] <Volcane> the order dependence in if defined() etc will go away soon apparently | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:55:29] <tim|imac> yeah, but it doesn't matter much if you make sure you inherit that nginx class in all classes that should conflict with each other | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:56:03] <Volcane> inheritance is too hard to read and follow, if defined should just work as advertised :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 09:58:44] <z00dax> and the order of the manifest application to a machine should not change the result of an ifdefined FOO | ||
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| [2010/02/22 10:02:11] <tim|imac> in a ruby case statement... how can I match a true? 'when true' doesn't seem to work... | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:02:15] <Volcane> z00dax: yeah thats being fixed thankfully | ||
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| [2010/02/22 10:12:33] <fzzzt> morning. are (or can i make) regexes case-insensitive? does /i work? | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:12:58] <sts> duritong: isn't concatenated mean to just create the files and put it to a specified location? | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:13:42] <joe-mac> concatenation is grouping together several distinct objects into one contiguous object (of that type) | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:14:01] <joe-mac> so, it'd like making a bunch of files one contiguous file, same with strings | ||
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| [2010/02/22 10:14:15] <joe-mac> i assume you're talking about someone's file concatenation module | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:14:24] <sts> joe-mac: yes :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:15:00] <sts> yeah, but i thought i will end up with a concatenated file in a common location, and not having it linked to /var/lib/puppet/modules/... | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:15:01] <joe-mac> yea, so, imagnie uiptables rules. you want a beginning that every machine gets then the second part that is machuine specific, you serve out both then concatenate them together into one set of rules | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:15:08] <duritong> sts: yes but it concatenates the files in /var/lib/puppet/modules/ | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:15:14] * Volcane just made a sexy new concatenator http://srt.ly/e | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:15:35] <duritong> sts: but the shorewall module should bring a correct config which points to /var/lib/puppet/modules/... | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:15:56] <fzzzt> is it "pre" __--==<{[(*)]}>==--__ "post"? | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:16:09] <fzzzt> :P | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:17:01] <fzzzt> oh that kind | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:17:03] <fzzzt> dang! | ||
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| [2010/02/22 10:17:24] <Omahn> Is it possible for me to remove the hosts entry (from /etc/hosts) for a given IP, such as 127.0.1.1 with Puppet and Augeas? I can do it manually using augtool but I'm failing to work out how to convert that to fit with Puppet. | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:17:35] <fzzzt> nice | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:17:52] <sts> duritong: yes, I know. I just wanted to know wether its possible to put the files generated into a common location instead of /var/lib/puppet/modules/... | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:18:09] <duritong> sts: you can, have a look at the manifests | ||
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| [2010/02/22 10:18:38] <duritong> you can pass another path than the one in modules to the concatenated_file thing | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:19:10] <duritong> Volcane: I couldn't yet look at your code, but how does it differ? | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:19:29] <Volcane> differ? | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:19:31] <Volcane> from what? | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:19:56] <duritong> from davids solution | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:20:04] <Volcane> my old concat you had to tell it where to put the .d files and each time for a snippet you have to tell it where to find the .d dir | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:20:10] <Volcane> now its all automagic | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:20:14] <tim|imac> http://pastie.org/836869 <-- can someone explain to me lines 7 and 11 from the output?? :S | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:20:28] <Volcane> i guess its roughly equiv to davids but i dont really trust those massive one-liners he use | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:20:41] <Volcane> i have a helper shell script with tons of error checking and sanity checks built in that does the heavy lifting | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:20:47] <duritong> ok | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:21:09] <Volcane> not sure if he use the new regex stuff in 0.24.late yet to auto build the .d filenames | ||
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| [2010/02/22 10:21:18] <duritong> so I think I'll keep a sticky bit on your new solution and will have a look at it | ||
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| [2010/02/22 10:21:30] <duritong> Volcane: who cares about pre 0.25? :P | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:21:37] <Volcane> duritong: yeah :P | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:22:13] <Volcane> this module also use the improve means of purgining unmanaged files in 0.25 | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:22:40] <Volcane> which works awesomely cos the other solution causes extra unintedned restarts | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:22:42] <duritong> :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:23:08] <joe-mac> tim|imac: i've never used notify like that- i've used the notify function but i never even knew there was a resource version | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:23:30] <tim|imac> joe-mac: it's an easy way to output stuff on the client instead of the puppetmaster :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:23:51] <Volcane> joe-mac: its in my debugging blog post that you're so fond of :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:24:26] <tim|imac> ah hm... a puppetmaster restart fixed my problem I pasted above :/ | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:24:28] <joe-mac> must have missed that | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:24:59] <joe-mac> tim|imac: i've been having an issue with .25.4 master to .25.4 clients that just cays ERROR 400, then something ambiguous | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:25:06] <joe-mac> then i restart the master processes and it works | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:25:21] <joe-mac> o it says invalid method fact_merge for Nil:NilClass | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:25:30] <joe-mac> i think it has to do with stored configs... | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:25:34] <tim|imac> joe-mac: that's strange... did you file a bug for that? | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:25:57] <tim|imac> i do notice sometimes that the 0.25.4 puppetmaster looses it's connections to mysql | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:26:07] <tim|imac> and it doesn't reuse mysql connections, for that matter | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:26:25] <tim|imac> still waiting on Nigel to test that | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:26:34] <joe-mac> tim|imac: not yet because i wanted to make sure i wasn't the one at fault. i don't like to run and file bugs immediately especially because i workd at a large open source company before the would see the kind of bugs dev havet o triage and sorta felt their pain | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:26:49] <joe-mac> tim|imac: i recall if you're using the wriong mysql ruby bindings that can happen | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:27:35] <tim|imac> joe-mac: yeah, but I have the correct mysql bindings installed | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:31:26] <z00dax> duritong: all 3 puppet setups I look at, are pre 0.25 | ||
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| [2010/02/22 10:34:11] <duritong> z00dax: upgrade! ;) nah, I'm simply just happy to be on 0.25 | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:36:42] <z00dax> duritong: i intend to upgrade; just a case of working out when and how that is going to work | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:37:00] * Volcane has one 0.24 left :( | ||
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| [2010/02/22 10:37:53] <duritong> z00dax: yeah finding time is a known problem... :/ | ||
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| [2010/02/22 10:46:02] <fzzzt> hrm.. not sure why this is happening: http://pastie.org/836916 | ||
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| [2010/02/22 10:47:09] <Volcane> fzzzt: fail "Invalid record data source defined: '${record_data_source}'" | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:47:21] <fzzzt> hey good idea | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:47:25] <fzzzt> *hits forehead* | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:47:34] <Volcane> heh | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:47:56] * masterzen was about to propose the same change | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:48:13] <masterzen> fzzzt: BTW, do you really need regex? | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:48:47] <fzzzt> Probably not; I'm using it until I know all the options the dev is going to want | ||
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| [2010/02/22 10:50:11] <fzzzt> Neat. Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: Invalid record data source defined: fileSystem. at /etc/puppet/testing/modules/dds/manifests/init.pp:15 on node nab | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:50:41] <fzzzt> (the period is in the fail string) | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:50:45] <fzzzt> hmm | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:52:17] <fzzzt> yay meeting time | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:54:51] <fzzzt> woot postponed | ||
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| [2010/02/22 10:56:14] <fzzzt> It works as a string not a regex | ||
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| [2010/02/22 10:59:32] <masterzen> fzzzt: by default case "downcases" all variables for matching. But regex are case sensitive. So it compares filesystem to fileSystem and you get no match. | ||
| [2010/02/22 10:59:49] * masterzen wonders if regex match shouldn't be case-insensitive by default | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:00:21] <masterzen> fzzzt: you can make it work by adding --casesensitive to puppetd or write your regex as /filesystem/. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 11:03:07] <kjetilho> masterzen: I don't think there is a modifier for making a regexp case-sensitive | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:03:27] <kjetilho> the opposite of /i I mean | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:03:31] <masterzen> kjetilho: you mean in puppet? | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:03:44] <kjetilho> in any RE application | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:04:06] <masterzen> correct | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:04:09] <kjetilho> I think it's better that Puppet regexps behave like everywhere else | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:04:19] <kjetilho> which means, remember to use /i if that's what you want | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:04:36] <masterzen> except it triggers issues like fzzzt one | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:04:54] <kjetilho> yeah, but lots of stuff can trip people up | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:04:59] <masterzen> where case downcase the variables value before handing it to the regex match (which doesn't match anymore) | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:05:50] <masterzen> case are case-insensitive by default with string. I think it should still be the case with regex (too many case in this sentence :-)) | ||
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| [2010/02/22 11:05:56] <kjetilho> I'm not a fan of automatic downcasing, but I don't have a good solution to the problem | ||
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| [2010/02/22 11:06:06] <masterzen> I don't either :-' | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:06:09] <kjetilho> since you can have a mix of fixed strings and regexps in that case | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:06:10] <masterzen> :-( | ||
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| [2010/02/22 11:06:47] <kjetilho> I guess ideally it would do case-insensitive matching for fixed strings only. you just need to preserve the original value to the selector | ||
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| [2010/02/22 11:07:29] <masterzen> we can't directly do this because the case statement doesn't know it deals with regex. It just handover comparison to whatever is the next case option. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:08:11] <masterzen> so we need to push the variable downcasing somewhat later to where we're doing the actual comparison... | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:08:34] <masterzen> which I don't find satisfying. I'd prefer case regex to be case-insensitive. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:09:01] * masterzen is going to file a bug | ||
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| [2010/02/22 11:13:18] <masterzen> I filed #3229 - everyone interested make sure to comment there. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:13:19] <gepetto> masterzen: #3229 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/3229 "Puppet - Bug #3229: Case regex are not case-insensitive - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
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| [2010/02/22 11:25:56] <kjetilho> masterzen: I added my view :-) | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:26:14] <masterzen> kjetilho: thanks, let's lak or someone else decide :-) | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:27:20] <eidolon> nnngggg. okay, i need to find luke and stab him a few times. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:27:31] <eidolon> puppet --help | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:27:31] <eidolon> No help available unless you have RDoc::usage installed | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:27:37] <eidolon> for a USAGE MESSAGE? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 11:28:12] <masterzen> eidolon: the help is provided through rdoc | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:28:13] <SyTonnerre> eidolon, that's what rdoc::usage is for | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:28:20] <kjetilho> and if it's installed, it's pretty unreadable anyway :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:28:31] <eidolon> yes, but requiring an entire package for a simple usage message is nutty. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:28:55] <masterzen> on debian rdoc is part of the ruby package... | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:29:08] <kjetilho> no, the nutty thing is that rdoc::usage isn't required by the Puppet package | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:29:59] <kjetilho> ruby-rdoc on Fedora | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:30:13] <eidolon> kjetilho: yeah, that too. i'm just yum install rdocing right now | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:30:24] <eidolon> but grr. holy unnecessary dependencies, batman. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 11:30:48] <kjetilho> eidolon: would you complain about a Perl package requiring Getopt::Long ? | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:31:12] <eidolon> yes. i hat eperl more than ruby :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:31:42] <masterzen> eidolon: don't complain, file a bug :-) | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:31:59] <eidolon> bah. i like bitching. makes me feel all net.studly n stuff. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:32:13] * eidolon considers more coffee. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:32:16] <masterzen> eidolon: better than filing a ticket: post a patch :-) | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:32:35] <eidolon> dude, i'm a java programmer. you don't want me digging into ruby code :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:33:50] <masterzen> everybody has to start somewhere: I also am a java dev, but I'm doing some ruby stuff for puppet too. I just tend to finish each line with some ';' :-) | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:33:53] <plathrop> eidolon: au contraire. We want everyone digging into ruby code. The more the merrier :-P | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:34:12] <masterzen> plathrop: so true. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 11:38:19] * eidolon is int he process of learning enough puppet to present on wednesday as a replacement for our home-grown build / deploy / version / maintain system. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:38:24] <eidolon> sfsg :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:38:50] <jgosney> puppet newbe question please... | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:38:56] <eidolon> ~ask | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:39:00] <eidolon> mm, no bot. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:39:06] <jgosney> Just began evaluting puppet.... | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:39:11] <jgosney> using v. 0.24.8 | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:39:34] <jgosney> Got it installed on a server and a host, making minor changes to default site.pp to learn how to use it... | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:39:42] <jgosney> Got a question about logging. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:40:05] <jgosney> On the client running puppetd, the default log location is set to /var/log/puppet in the puppet.conf file. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:40:19] <jgosney> Yet whenever I make updates to the site.pp file, I'm not seeing anything reflected in that log file. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:40:39] <jgosney> Is there any correlation between the var/log/puppet log file and the "-l" command-line paramenter? | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:40:51] <jgosney> Or more simply, why are the changes not being logged? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 11:42:20] <eidolon> are you making changes on the puppetmaster, and not seeing anything happening on the clients? | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:42:26] <eidolon> have you done puppetrun or hupped puppetd on the client? | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:42:29] <eidolon> the changes aren't immediate. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:42:51] <jgosney> Making changes to the site.pp on the puppetmaster like changing rights on a file | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:43:16] <jgosney> and we're seeing the changes reflected on the client box. But the var/log/puppet directory is remaining empty. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:43:33] <eidolon> do you see them in the log file on the puppetmaster? | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:43:38] <jgosney> let me check.... | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:43:46] <eidolon> i haven't tried logging on puppetd yet - is anything logging at all? (ls -lt /var/log | head) | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:45:11] <plathrop> I've never actually tried loggin to anywhere other than syslog | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:45:30] <jgosney> There is a var/log/puppet/masterhttp.log on the puppetmaster and there is a ton of info in it but nothing that jumps out at me as reflecting the changes that were pushed down. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:45:43] <jgosney> Although the file is fairly large and i'd have to digest it. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 11:46:04] <jgosney> On the puppetd box, there are no files in the /var/log/puppet directory | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:46:29] <eidolon> okay, read what i said again please :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:46:34] <eidolon> look on the client box | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:46:43] <eidolon> is -anything- being logged from puppetd - it might not be going to /var/log/puppet | ||
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| [2010/02/22 11:47:07] <eidolon> also, if you're not seeing anything on the puppetmaster, are you sure the changes are being pushed down? If you don't see anything on the puppetmaster server, you should up the verbosity level and push again. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:48:34] <jgosney> hmm, not seeing any log files on the puppetd box anywhere. I've got the book "Pulling Strings with Puppet" and I'm using that to do this initial testing. Haven't got to modifying verbosity level yet. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:48:44] <jgosney> Yes, the changes are being pushed down. I have verified that. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:49:20] <jgosney> I've tried setting --verbose on the client but that didn't seem to help. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:49:36] <plathrop> jgosney: can you pastie your puppet.conf? | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:49:51] <jgosney> yes, just a sec | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:23] <jgosney> It's just the basic out-of-the-box .conf at this point. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:28] <jgosney> puppet2:/etc/puppet # cat puppet.conf | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:28] <jgosney> [main] | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:29] <jgosney> # Where Puppet stores dynamic and growing data. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:29] <jgosney> # The default value is '/var/puppet'. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:29] <jgosney> vardir = /var/lib/puppet | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:29] <jgosney> # The Puppet log directory. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:31] <jgosney> # The default value is '$vardir/log'. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:33] <jgosney> logdir = /var/log/puppet | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:35] <jgosney> # Where Puppet PID files are kept. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:37] <jgosney> # The default value is '$vardir/run'. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:39] <jgosney> rundir = /var/run/puppet | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:41] <jgosney> # Where SSL certificates are kept. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:43] <jgosney> # The default value is '$confdir/ssl'. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:47] <jgosney> ssldir = $vardir/ssl | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:49] <jgosney> [puppetd] | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:51] <jgosney> # The file in which puppetd stores a list of the classes | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:51] <nasrat> jgosney: it's probably logging to syslog by default | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:52] <plathrop> jgosney: ACK! pastie.org dude | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:53] <jgosney> # associated with the retrieved configuratiion. Can be loaded in | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:55] <jgosney> # the separate ``puppet`` executable using the ``--loadclasses`` | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:57] <jgosney> # option. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:50:59] <jgosney> # The default value is '$confdir/classes.txt'. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:51:00] <eidolon> AIEEE | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:51:00] <nasrat> jgosney: USE PASTIE/GIST | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:51:01] <jgosney> classfile = $vardir/classes.txt | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:51:03] <jgosney> # Where puppetd caches the local configuration. An | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:51:04] <eidolon> he's in mid-paste | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:51:05] <jgosney> # extension indicating the cache format is added automatically. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:51:07] <jgosney> # The default value is '$confdir/localconfig'. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:51:08] <eidolon> this is all buffering. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:51:09] <jgosney> localconfig = $vardir/localconfig | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:51:09] * plathrop facepalm | ||
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| [2010/02/22 11:51:13] <jgosney> Sorry :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:51:18] <eidolon> dude, don't -do- that. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:51:40] <plathrop> jgosney: Okay, so the comments in the conf file are misleading. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:51:47] <plathrop> jgosney: puppet logs to syslog by default | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:52:27] <jgosney> I'll check syslog. back in a sec... | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:53:25] <plathrop> jgosney: On my Debian boxen it ends up in daemon.log | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:53:42] <jgosney> yes, I see the changes that I pushed down in syslog. So the logdir option in puppet.conf is not used or irrelevant? | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:53:51] <eidolon> ls -lcd hmm, once i go to modules, i shouldn't be using /etc/puppet/classes anymore, right? | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:54:02] <eidolon> (er, minus the ls command) | ||
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| [2010/02/22 11:54:37] <nasrat> jgosney: puppet supports multiple logging backends | ||
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| [2010/02/22 11:54:48] <nasrat> it defaults to syslog but also supports file which will go to that place | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:55:27] <nasrat> man puppet.conf or puppetd --genconfig will give the default configs and extensive comments | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:55:39] <nasrat> eg Where puppetmasterd logs. This is generally not used, since syslog is the default log destination. | ||
| [2010/02/22 11:56:38] <nasrat> logdest is used to override this on the command line | ||
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| [2010/02/22 11:59:33] <jgosney> Interesting, I did the --genconfig and in the outputed .conf file, the logdir is now /var/puppet/log. OK. I think I'll just have to play with this and determine what's going on here | ||
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| [2010/02/22 12:02:27] <eidolon> sorry, i'm digging in the faq and docs - i'd like to do a 'sanity check' on my manifests and node defs - can i do a 'syntax check my brain here, but don't actually push anything yet'? | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:02:31] <eidolon> i thought isaw that somewhere. | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:02:44] <Volcane> puppet --parseonly foo.rb | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:02:46] <Volcane> foo.pp even | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:02:55] <eidolon> yeah, that! | ||
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| [2010/02/22 12:04:00] <eidolon> err: Could not parse for environment production: No file(s) found for import of 'sudo' at /etc/puppet/manifests/modules.pp:4 | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:04:02] <eidolon> awesome. | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:04:05] * eidolon loves error messages. | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:04:06] * eidolon digs | ||
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| [2010/02/22 12:06:08] <jb> anybody here managing/deploying heartbeat clusters and such with puppet? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 12:08:05] <eidolon> whoah | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:08:20] <eidolon> puppetd can also manage services? "If this isn't running, fergodsake restart it" ? | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:08:23] <eidolon> duuuuude. | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:09:13] <jb> of course :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:09:15] <danbeck> lol | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:09:18] <nareshov> :D | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:09:20] <danbeck> yes, and works quite well. | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:09:30] <astinus> as it only runs every 30 minutes by default on most distributions, that may not be ideal | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:09:38] <kjetilho> yeah, it's like totally rad, man | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:09:39] <astinus> we use Puppet to appropriately configure Monit to perform much more regular service checks | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:09:44] <danbeck> service { "name": ensure => "running"; } | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:10:15] <eidolon> *nod* got it. | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:10:21] <eidolon> sorry, lots of brain-shifting going on. | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:10:27] <nareshov> srsly | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:10:35] <danbeck> Nagios is for up to the minute service checking, but puppet is nice to have to make sure things like syslog, cron, etc are running. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 12:10:54] <plathrop> eidolon: I understand. Discovering Puppet was a huge paradigm shift for me. | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:11:46] <eidolon> so the puppet tutorial has one way to set up a service - then they shift gears, and show how to do it as a module - so i'm confused as to the proper way to do it. i have /etc/puppet/manifests having moddules.pp,. nodes.pp,. and site.pp. modules.pp has 'import "sudo"' - sudo is in /etc/puppet/modules/sudo/manifests/init.pp - but when i do a check, it says sudo isn't found | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:11:47] <jb> puppet client talks to puppetmaster via TCP/8140, right? | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:12:24] <jb> eidolon: i'd read http://www.devco.net/archives/2009/09/28/simple_puppet_module_structure.php | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:12:26] <plathrop> eidolon: I've found that "best practice" is usually to do everything in modules | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:12:38] <eidolon> plathrop: yeah, that's what i'm trying to do | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:12:45] <eidolon> i moved the /etc/puppet/manifests/sudo.pp out | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:12:53] <eidolon> jb: *clix* | ||
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| [2010/02/22 12:13:15] <plathrop> eidolon: also, you shouldn't have to explicitly import modules, puppet does autoloading | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:13:35] <plathrop> jb: I believe so, yes | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:14:11] <eidolon> http://pastebin.stonekeep.com/6554 | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:14:20] <eidolon> plathrop: ohh.... | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:14:23] <eidolon> let me try that. | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:14:24] * eidolon comments out | ||
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| [2010/02/22 12:14:43] <eidolon> wait, then what's the point of the modules.pp file? :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:15:20] <plathrop> eidolon: it has no point. So, one "problem" with puppet is that it has been fast-moving, so a lot of information out there is outdated. | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:15:26] <eidolon> ahhhhh | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:15:38] <eidolon> okay, parseonly succeeded on site.pp without theline in modules.pp | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:15:41] <nareshov> so that puppet book is of little use now? | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:15:42] <eidolon> yeah, i found that confusing on the doc site. | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:15:58] <jb> nareshov: not totally.. still good info.. you are talking about pulling strings with puppet? | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:16:01] <nareshov> ya | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:16:04] <jb> i think the second edition is due soon | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:16:05] <plathrop> nareshov: I wouldn't say it's of little use, but jamesturnbull is trying to get a new edition out, iirc | ||
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| [2010/02/22 12:16:17] <Volcane> nareshov: the book has use, it gets you the concepts etc and to the point where the rest of the docs - that arent very great i agree - makes sense :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:16:21] <plathrop> nareshov: The concepts are still importan | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:16:23] <jb> the manifest organization in it is a bit outdated, however.. | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:16:26] <nareshov> okay | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:16:32] <eidolon> i see how i can clean it up | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:16:44] <eidolon> /etc/puppet/manifests for site config | ||
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| [2010/02/22 12:16:58] <eidolon> /etc/puppet/modules/[modulename]/manifests/init.pp for individual modules | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:16:59] <plathrop> I started working on a better Best Practices doc, but then my son was born 3 months early | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:17:16] <eidolon> plathrop: oof. that'll stop a lot of work in it's tracks. | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:17:24] <plathrop> I'll tell you how I organize things | ||
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| [2010/02/22 12:17:29] <eidolon> <-- is a dad too, but not a preemie dad. | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:17:45] <plathrop> /etc/puppet/manifests has site.pp and variables.pp | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:17:50] * eidolon ndos | ||
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| [2010/02/22 12:17:53] <plathrop> All site.pp does is set resource defaults | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:17:56] <eidolon> not nodes.pp ? | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:18:07] <plathrop> And set up a default node | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:18:24] <eidolon> oic. you combind them | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:18:25] <plathrop> eidolon: ah yes, nodes.pp too | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:18:28] <eidolon> oh. :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:18:29] <eidolon> heh | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:18:41] <plathrop> eidolon: I forgot to mention because I'm in the middle of moving to an external node tool | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:18:47] * eidolon nods. ldap? | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:18:53] <plathrop> variables.pp has all my site-wide variables | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:19:10] <jb> erm, i have a ensure => version which is not causing a package to be updated | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:19:26] <plathrop> No, not LDAP. We don't like LDAP. We're using a home-grown central system (which we'll open-source soon) | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:19:32] <eidolon> ok | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:19:44] <plathrop> jb: Debian? if so, and using apt provider, it won't downgrade | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:19:50] <jb> plathrop: no, RHEL/yum | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:20:03] <plathrop> So, anyway, site.pp variables.pp and nodes.pp are all that is in /etc/puppet/manifests | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:20:07] <jb> sudo 1.6.x is currently installed, i have an ensure => "1.7.2..." | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:20:13] <jb> and its not updating, or even trying to | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:20:18] <plathrop> jb: weird | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:20:27] <plathrop> Then I have /etc/puppet/modules | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:20:32] * eidolon nods | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:20:35] <eidolon> this sounds like where i'm heading/ | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:20:48] <plathrop> I have a "site" module which stores our site-specific configs | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:20:58] <plathrop> And then I have modules like "apache" and "sudo" | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:21:08] <plathrop> I don't explicitly import them anywhere | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:21:19] <eidolon> yah, okay, that makes sense. | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:21:30] <plathrop> as long as you follow the module organization, Puppet autoloads them when you do 'include sudo' | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:21:36] <jb> oh. | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:21:37] <eidolon> man i thought i was out of classloader second-guessing:) | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:21:38] <plathrop> (in the node declaration) | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:21:43] <eidolon> yep, i got it. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 12:21:57] <eidolon> okay, good. i need to do a couple setups now - i will probably poke you in a bit. but maybe lunch first. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 12:22:10] <plathrop> eidolon: yeah, I got to break fast and get to theoffice | ||
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| [2010/02/22 12:22:15] <eidolon> later :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:22:17] * eidolon idles for lunch. | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:22:21] <plathrop> eidolon: But feel free to message me | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:22:32] <eidolon> thanks again :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:22:36] <plathrop> eidolon: np | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:24:24] <inveratulo> can puppet do RHN registration? | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:24:58] <nasrat> inveratulo: exec rhn_regiser_ks with a creates | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:25:07] <nasrat> or something IIRC | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:25:12] <inveratulo> got it thanks | ||
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| [2010/02/22 12:26:37] <nasrat> rhnreg_ks but yeah cool | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:27:05] <jgartrel> How do I disable cert checking from the command line with puppetd .... I am trying to test against a test puppet server and getting hung up on the cert checking code | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:27:40] <jgartrel> http_enable_post_connection_check does not work anymore | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:28:48] <jgartrel> Optimally I would like to have the following set, but that does not look possible ... | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:28:49] <jgartrel> http.verify_mode = OpenSSL::SSL::VERIFY_NONE | ||
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| [2010/02/22 12:35:48] <joe-mac> you can't disable certification without changing the code afaik | ||
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| [2010/02/22 12:36:14] <jgartrel> looks like it might be possible .... here ... return false unless (defined?(@cert) and @cert) or self.read_cert | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:36:36] <jgartrel> but Ill trust you guys on that | ||
| [2010/02/22 12:37:02] <jgartrel> I didnt want to slog through the code for two hours to come to the same conclusion | ||
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| [2010/02/22 13:14:58] <jgartrel> @lak ... Is there a way to disble cert checking from the command line with puppetd .... I am trying to test against a test puppet server and getting hung up on the cert checking code | ||
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| [2010/02/22 13:15:27] <jgartrel> http_enable_post_connection_check does not work anymore | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:15:40] <lak> jgartrel: there isn't, actually | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:16:17] <jgartrel> crappy. Do you have any suggestions? | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:16:18] <lak> i remember that being filed as a bug but i haven't been the one looking at it | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:16:20] <kjetilho> jgartrel: I use a separate directory for communicating with the test server | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:16:41] <kjetilho> so it can download correctly signed certificates | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:16:41] <jgartrel> I got excited when I saw this in the code ... | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:16:42] <jgartrel> # Just no-op if we don't have certs. | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:16:43] <jgartrel> return false unless (defined?(@cert) and @cert) or self.read_cert | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:16:58] <lak> jgartrel: how did you build the test server's cert? you should be able to set the dnscertname so the server's cert works | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:17:10] <lak> jgartrel: that's a fall-back for when a client doesn't yet have a cert | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:17:15] <lak> rather than a way to disable needing it | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:17:39] <jgartrel> I want to create N test servers ... but creating certs is just not possible | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:17:46] <kjetilho> lak: just use a different name for the test server, you don't really need any magic | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:17:58] <jgartrel> where those servers are launched in ec2 on demand | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:18:08] <nigelk> jgartrel: I have test certs with subject altnames of *, *.*, *.*.*, *.*.*.* etc | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:18:16] <nigelk> they work fine for deploying anywhere :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:18:23] <kjetilho> jgartrel: then you'll need to turn on autosigning I guess | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:18:24] <lak> ==nigelk | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:18:39] <kjetilho> otherwise running puppetca --sign will be too tedious | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:18:44] <jgartrel> thanks nigelk ... that might work in this case | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:18:50] <nigelk> if you're comfortable making certs by hand .... I have to do tests in some odd environments where DNS is a bit surreal | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:19:18] <kjetilho> jgartrel: will you be using stored configs? | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:19:19] <jgartrel> if theres not a better way I might try that route | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:19:30] <jgartrel> no | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:19:43] <kjetilho> (do you want your servers to keep state among themselves?) | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:19:48] <kjetilho> ok | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:20:04] <jgartrel> it seems all I really want to do on the client is to set the following on a test run | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:20:04] <jgartrel> + http.verify_mode = OpenSSL::SSL::VERIFY_NONE | ||
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| [2010/02/22 13:21:28] <fred> I'm aiming for "apt-get install puppet" is all I need on new nodes; unfortunately, these nodes run https servers - what's the normal way to do this? (hoping it's not passphrase-less keys :p) | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:21:35] <jgartrel> actually the wildcard I dont think is going to work | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:22:14] <fred> (i.e. any suggestions for providing the passphrase and hooking it into puppet?) | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:22:26] <eidolon> hmm, in order for puppetrun to work, i have to have 'serve' enabled in the puppetd.conf on the client, right? what's the syntax? man pages / examples aren't clear. | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:22:27] <jgartrel> I want to test my production clients against a test server with newer puppet manifests | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:22:35] <jgartrel> and verify the configs | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:22:50] <jgartrel> I dont want to *change* the client configs | ||
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| [2010/02/22 13:23:27] <astinus> jgartrel: it should be possible to build an SSL CA with implicit trust, so anything signed by server1 would be 'trusted' on serverN | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:23:56] <jgartrel> its not about the server trusint the clients ... its about the clients trusting the server | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:24:16] <astinus> that should also be possible by that approach... | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:24:24] <eidolon> oh, maybe not. hm. | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:24:30] <astinus> you install your own SSL CA certificate which has signed the test server? | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:24:47] <astinus> i could be getting the wrong end of the stick :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:25:03] <astinus> i only use that technique for doing HA between two masters, not for anything really fancy like release mgmt | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:25:40] <jgartrel> yes but the test servers are dynamic and get started dynamically in this case | ||
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| [2010/02/22 13:31:56] <kjetilho> jgartrel: what is your actual problem? Puppet uses self-signed certificates by default, it works out of the box for me. | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:32:48] <kjetilho> but a client certificate signed by master1 will not be accepted by master2, so you either need to clean out /var/lib/puppet/certs | ||
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| [2010/02/22 13:33:02] <kjetilho> or specify separate vardir for each testserver | ||
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| [2010/02/22 13:37:57] <jgartrel> Trying to start up a new Dev Test server for each revision of puppet manifests , then test production clients against the new test servers in noop mode | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:38:32] <jgartrel> client need to trust the new test servers or just trust all (for this single,noop, run only) | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:39:49] <astinus> TBQH i'm not sure there is an easy solution than that, other than to patch out cert verifciation | ||
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| [2010/02/22 13:41:33] <plathrop> jgartrel: I'm curious why it doesn't work to just keep the test server running and push new revisions to it? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 13:42:03] <kjetilho> jgartrel: with autosigning it will just work (tm) | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:42:17] <jgartrel> because there is one dev test server per developer | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:42:33] <plathrop> jgartrel: ah, that's one way to do it. | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:42:44] <eidolon> do i have to do some magic to allow puppetrun to work witha --host param? it looks like puppetd on the client machine isn't accepting connections. | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:43:19] <plathrop> eidolon: listen = true in [puppetd] section of puppet.conf | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:43:23] <eidolon> ah | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:43:53] <eidolon> cd /meh. i don't know why i didn'ts ee that in the docs | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:43:56] <eidolon> sheesh. | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:44:32] <kjetilho> jgartrel: that's what I use this for, I run puppetmasterd on my workstation so I can test before committing to the company tree | ||
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| [2010/02/22 13:54:13] <plathrop> hrm... taking a look at http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/1999 and I'm not sure how to write a test for it. | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:55:09] <tim|imac> :D that's my ticket :D | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:55:52] <tim|imac> plathrop: how do the tests that install a package operate? actually install a package? | ||
| [2010/02/22 13:56:05] <plathrop> tim|imac: not sure. Good place to start, though, thanks. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 14:00:14] <dan__t> I'm going to do the gross, the nasty, the unthinkable. I'm going to implement LDAP nodes with AD. | ||
| [2010/02/22 14:00:40] <tim|imac> ... that's gross | ||
| [2010/02/22 14:00:49] <dan__t> fact. | ||
| [2010/02/22 14:01:38] <tim|imac> hey, could be worse | ||
| [2010/02/22 14:01:46] <tim|imac> you could be the one that's going to have to maintain it | ||
| [2010/02/22 14:02:10] <dan__t> I just want everything in LDAP. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 14:03:23] <plathrop> dan__t: AD? Really? You are a braver man than I. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 14:04:15] <dan__t> :/ | ||
| [2010/02/22 14:06:04] <dan__t> Welp. I can make a Computer account for the machines, and integrate DHCP and DNS, tie it all today. | ||
| [2010/02/22 14:06:07] <dan__t> er, tie it all together. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 14:17:42] <weaselkeeper> anyone using foreman with puppet? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 14:47:28] <fzzzt> masterzen: Thanks for the tip about case statement case sensitivity, that was the case, my case is now lower case and it's working in every case. :) | ||
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| [2010/02/22 14:53:31] <eidolon> meh. listen = true isn't working on puppetd. | ||
| [2010/02/22 14:53:33] * eidolon fiddles | ||
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| [2010/02/22 14:56:11] <eidolon> aha. namespaceauth | ||
| [2010/02/22 14:56:56] <eidolon> HAH. | ||
| [2010/02/22 14:57:07] * eidolon uses puppet to distribute the namespaceauth.conf file :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 14:57:10] * eidolon is teh witty. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 14:58:45] <zirpu> heh | ||
| [2010/02/22 15:00:52] <eidolon> so, here's a question. why does a modules init.pp have a requirement for itself? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 15:01:23] <eidolon> class something { package blah... then file { ... require =>Package["something"] } | ||
| [2010/02/22 15:01:49] <fredden> I'm new to puppet, and was wondering if a feature exists, or if I need to do some magic to make it happen. I don't know ruby yet, so I'm hoping to not need too much magic. :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 15:01:50] <fredden> currently, I'm maintaining two lists: one in a class, another in a flat file | ||
| [2010/02/22 15:01:59] <fredden> I'd like to have the flat file generated on the fly, based on what's in the class | ||
| [2010/02/22 15:02:02] <fredden> can anyone help with that? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 15:02:08] <fzzzt> oops. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 15:05:30] <inveratulo> how do i make puppetmaster listen on a specified interface IP ? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 15:06:44] <eidolon> inveratulo: iirc, that's in the puppet FAQ. | ||
| [2010/02/22 15:07:34] <paxos> inveratulo: http://docs.reductivelabs.com/references/stable/configuration.html | ||
| [2010/02/22 15:07:34] <inveratulo> eidolon: thanks, i've been going through the "pulling strings.." book and it leaves out some details :-P | ||
| [2010/02/22 15:07:50] <eidolon> *nod* the website is really the best reference source i've found. but even it has dated information. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 15:12:28] <showy> hi | ||
| [2010/02/22 15:13:25] <showy> the puppet version in debian etch is 0.24 , my etch clients dont update new resources that I add to the manifest until I restart the procces | ||
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| [2010/02/22 15:18:01] <showy> sry, puppet version in debian etch 0.20 | ||
| [2010/02/22 15:23:42] <Volcane> dont use 0.20 | ||
| [2010/02/22 15:23:47] <Volcane> its practically from the stone age | ||
| [2010/02/22 15:24:25] <fzzzt> If I don't include a class, would if (Class["asd"]) ... except? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 15:27:36] <bodepd> frzzzt: use if(! defined Class['asd']){fail('blah')} | ||
| [2010/02/22 15:28:03] <fzzzt> ah, thanks | ||
| [2010/02/22 15:28:31] <bodepd> actually, the way that you wrote it seems to work... | ||
| [2010/02/22 15:29:26] <fzzzt> hm, even if asd isn't included at all | ||
| [2010/02/22 15:29:34] <bodepd> if you want to fail, if you just want to check it use defined | ||
| [2010/02/22 15:29:48] <fzzzt> yeah, ok | ||
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| [2010/02/22 15:59:45] <eidolon> hey folks i'm getting a warning on my .pp file and i dont' know why. the checker is not throwing an error :( | ||
| [2010/02/22 15:59:46] <eidolon> help? | ||
| [2010/02/22 15:59:50] <eidolon> sec, i'll pastebin | ||
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| [2010/02/22 16:02:27] <eidolon> http://pastebin.stonekeep.com/6555 | ||
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| [2010/02/22 16:04:09] <eidolon> ping plathrop ? :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:04:25] <plathrop> eidolon: I'm looking :-P | ||
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| [2010/02/22 16:05:06] <eidolon> :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:05:09] <jb> i thought you were going to use modules? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:05:14] <eidolon> ummm | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:05:18] <eidolon> i thought that is a module | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:05:28] <eidolon> or is this YER DOIN IT RONG! | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:05:36] <jb> oh one sec | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:05:49] <plathrop> eidolon: you aren't really showing the relevant stuff. I need to see /etc/puppet/modules/lwm-repositories/manifests/init.pp ; but it looks like the error is coming from your package system | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:05:52] <jb> erm ok | ||
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| [2010/02/22 16:06:02] <eidolon> oh! | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:06:02] <eidolon> sorry | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:06:06] <eidolon> dang | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:06:17] <eidolon> esxcept | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:06:19] <jb> i'd organize modules like: /etc/puppet/modules/modulename/{files,templates,manifests} | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:06:21] <eidolon> look at pastein line 5 | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:06:25] <eidolon> jb it is | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:06:32] <jb> # /etc/puppet/manifests/classes/sudo.pp ? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:06:34] <eidolon> i have 2 failed entries there. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:06:41] <jb> what is that? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:06:47] <eidolon> jb: a mistyped comment :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:06:52] <eidolon> one moment :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:07:01] <plathrop> eidolon: oh, yeah um... ur doin' it rong | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:07:06] <eidolon> hang on hang on | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:07:11] <eidolon> there's a lot misrepresented there. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:07:11] <eidolon> std by | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:07:15] <eidolon> i was in mid-meeting | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:07:18] <eidolon> let me redo it. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:07:18] <plathrop> Unless you built a custom package called "namespaceauth" | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:07:21] <eidolon> i do | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:07:22] <jb> yeah | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:07:22] <eidolon> sec. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:07:22] <plathrop> okay, I'll wait | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:07:25] <eidolon> thanks :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:07:28] * eidolon redoes | ||
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| [2010/02/22 16:10:01] <ashp> this is my first heavy puppet day in forever and boy do i keep finding horrors in my modules | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:10:17] <ashp> i had to get nagios to install nrpe and check disks remotely and argh best describes this :D | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:10:44] <eidolon> try this | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:10:45] <eidolon> http://pastebin.stonekeep.com/6556 | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:10:51] <eidolon> nrpe is a pain | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:11:09] <jb> nagios is a pain. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:11:11] <jb> everything about it :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:11:14] <ashp> monitoring is a pain | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:11:26] <eidolon> yeah, we migrated from nagios to zenoss | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:11:26] <ashp> next on my list is to start looking at rolling out collectd all over, sigh | ||
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| [2010/02/22 16:12:12] <jb> eidolon: its telling you it can't find the "lvm-repositories" package | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:12:32] <eidolon> it also can't find the namespaceauth one wither | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:12:34] <eidolon> lvm? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:12:40] <eidolon> did i typo? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:12:44] <jb> ? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:12:49] <eidolon> should be lwm | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:12:53] * eidolon chex | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:12:55] <jb> oh | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:12:56] <jb> you are right | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:13:03] <eidolon> ok :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:13:05] <eidolon> but why can't it find it? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:13:13] <eidolon> the init.pp is there | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:13:17] <jb> well | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:13:24] <jb> what repo is it in? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:13:29] <jb> is it in your lwm-littleton.repo? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:13:33] <plathrop> eidolon: Okay, I think you may be a little tiny bit confused | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:13:37] <eidolon> i'm sure i am :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:13:50] <jb> you can't install a package from 'x' repo, if 'x' repo is not defined on a system :) | ||
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| [2010/02/22 16:13:51] <eidolon> i'm trying to push... namespaceconf and the repo definition file to the client(s) | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:13:53] <eidolon> no | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:13:56] <eidolon> i'm not installing any packages. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:14:00] <eidolon> or don't want to | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:14:01] <eidolon> OH! | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:14:01] <jb> you are | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:14:03] <eidolon> i am | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:14:05] <eidolon> but i don't want to :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:14:06] <jb> package { lwm-repositories: ensure => latest } | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:14:09] @ Quit: giskard: Ping timeout: 256 seconds | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:14:09] <eidolon> i ju8st want to p ush files out. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:14:10] <plathrop> eidolon: then why are you telling puppet to install a package? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:14:10] <jb> that says "install lwm-repositories" | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:14:15] <jb> basically, yum install lwm-repositories | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:14:18] <eidolon> plathrop: because i'm an idiot. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:14:21] <plathrop> lol | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:14:29] <eidolon> okay okay | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:14:31] <plathrop> eidolon: there ya go. Take those package lines out | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:14:32] <eidolon> i see totally what's wrong here | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:14:36] <eidolon> right, got it. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:14:58] <jb> also | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:15:04] <jb> i'd reccomend having a "puppet" module | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:15:09] <jb> to manage resources like namespaceauth.conf, etc | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:15:12] <eidolon> *nod* | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:15:14] <plathrop> +1 | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:15:29] <eidolon> okay, hang on a few. if i change the init.pp et al, does teh change go live immediately, or do i have to puppetmaster restart? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:15:36] <jb> no | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:15:41] <jb> no need to restart.. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:15:49] <eidolon> ok | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:15:53] * eidolon edits | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:15:57] <eidolon> (thanks man, you guys are awesome) | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:16:15] <eidolon> (what was confusing me was the term 'package' - which has multiuple meanings depending on OS, language, and environment) | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:16:36] <jb> package = RPM in your case | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:16:51] <jb> as the docs clearly state :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:16:58] <eidolon> yeah... but ruby / perl / etc - have a concept of a 'package' | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:17:02] <eidolon> that's what i was thinking. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:17:05] <weaselkeeper> I am running puppetmaster via passenger, and that seems to handle new configs fine, although sometimes takes a minute or two. I think it's because each passenger will get the new configs as it spawns, but the old ones, retain the stuff that was current when they were spawned | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:17:24] <plathrop> weaselkeeper: that's not quite 100% accurate | ||
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| [2010/02/22 16:17:33] <plathrop> weaselkeeper: but close enough for government work | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:18:15] <jb> yeah, I see that issue sometimes | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:18:45] <eidolon> Feb 22 16:06:46 ltl-dev-bo-db01 puppetd[25278]: (//Node[basenode]/namespaceauth/File[/etc/puppet/namespaceauth.conf]/ensure) created | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:18:45] <eidolon> Feb 22 16:06:47 ltl-dev-bo-db01 puppetd[25278]: (//Node[basenode]/lwm-repositories/File[/etc/yum.repos.d/lwm-littleton.repo]/ensure) created | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:18:48] <eidolon> hey look at that. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:19:03] <jb> ensure? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:19:20] <jb> oh, yeah | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:19:28] <weaselkeeper> plathrop: what does happen? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:21:48] <eidolon> what's the weird word that luke uses meaning "this can run many times without harm"? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:22:03] <fzzzt> idempotent? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:22:07] <jb> yeah. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:22:09] <weaselkeeper> not microsoft :P | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:22:16] <eidolon> yeah, taht one. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:22:18] <eidolon> thanks :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:22:23] <fzzzt> it's idempotent | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:22:25] <fzzzt> :P | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:22:45] <fzzzt> not to be confused with omnipotent or impotent | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:22:49] <plathrop> weaselkeeper: as far as I've observed on my setup, which has some longer-lived puppetmasters, the new configs get picked up after about 30 seconds or so | ||
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| [2010/02/22 16:23:04] <jb> weaselkeeper: yeah, it takes about 30 seconds usually | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:23:12] <fzzzt> though i suppose impotent could be thought of as being able to run many times without harm | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:23:18] * fzzzt goes back to work... | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:23:27] <plathrop> weaselkeeper: but sometimes you can't tell, because some nodes are mid-run at the time, so get older configs | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:23:47] <weaselkeeper> yeah, that makes sense. I haven;t timed, I just know I haven't restarted things to have changes take effect. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 16:39:54] <ashp> hmm, i swear i had foreman working before. Now it can't see the mysql database puppet uses. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:39:57] <eidolon> yay! i 500'ed my puppetd! | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:40:02] * eidolon feels so spehshuhl. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:40:15] <eidolon> i need to try foreman at some point | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:40:29] <ashp> I wonder why it's not working. :/ | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:40:46] <jb> foreman > * :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:40:58] <eidolon> yea? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:41:00] <eidolon> cool. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:41:09] <ashp> It doesn't even seem to attempt to connect, I wonder if my mysql gem is bust. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:41:16] <jb> no storeconfigs here :/ | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:41:32] <ashp> maybe I need to do the populate_hosts again | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:41:40] <ashp> -sh-3.2# rake puppet:migrate:populate_hosts RAILS_ENV=production | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:41:41] <ashp> (in /var/rails/foreman) | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:41:41] <ashp> rake aborted! | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:41:41] <ashp> undefined method `mac=' for #<Host:0x2ab4d8603120> | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:41:44] <ashp> Well, I guess not. :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:42:15] <ashp> I need to clear out what I have and start again I guess. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:43:07] <eidolon> so i have a namespaceauth.conf that has [puppetrunner] allow host.x.com | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:43:42] <eidolon> but the puppetd client is showing: ltl-dev-bo-db01 puppetd[29455]: Denying unauthenticated client host.x.com(x.x.x.x) access to puppetrunner.run | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:43:59] <Spruit_elf> are there any issues i need to worry about when upgrading puppet from 24.8 to 25.4 ? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:44:38] @ Quit: markl: Quit: leaving | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:45:03] <fzzzt> global economic meltdown | ||
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| [2010/02/22 16:45:22] <fzzzt> and stray puppies | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:45:31] <nigelk> Spruit_elf: the big one that hit me was that all the clients will download the CRL from whatever functions as your CA | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:45:39] <nigelk> whereas in 0.24 the CRL wasn't used at all | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:45:41] <weaselkeeper> mmm puppie melt | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:45:53] <nigelk> so if you have a gazillion clients and a single CA, it will suffer more load | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:45:54] <kjetilho> every time someone upgrades Puppet, $DEITY $ACTION a kitten. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:46:00] <jb> and environments between 0.24 and 0.25 | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:46:00] <weaselkeeper> lol | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:46:18] <jb> iirc, external node classifiers could define environments in 0.24.x | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:46:33] <fzzzt> the whole /modules thing | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:46:39] <weaselkeeper> We are in the process of implementing Puppet ,(well, testing it, final decision is soon) should I be testing .25 rather than .24? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:46:39] <fzzzt> no worry, just annoying | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:46:39] <jb> yeah but that still works | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:46:41] <Spruit_elf> nigelk: oh with one puppetmaster and one client it wont be a big issue then | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:46:43] <jb> its just being depcreated :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:46:47] <eidolon> ~kjetilho++ | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:46:52] <jb> weaselkeeper: yes, definetely. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:46:55] <kjetilho> pluginsync uses a new path | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:46:55] <weaselkeeper> I just grabbed the latest that was in epel for RH 5.4 | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:46:57] <nigelk> weaselkeeper: absofrickinglutely | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:47:07] <jb> 0.25.3 is in EPEL | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:47:11] <jb> epel-testing at least | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:47:11] <nigelk> if you never have to deal with 0.24, you'll be much happier | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:47:12] <jgartrel> nigelk: how are you generating server certs with wildcards? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:47:12] <fzzzt> 25 | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:47:17] <fzzzt> imho | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:47:18] <nigelk> jgartrel: by hand | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:47:26] <jgartrel> that are signed by the puppet CA? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:47:27] <Spruit_elf> blastwave has just included puppet 25.4 | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:47:32] <weaselkeeper> ok, I can build new packages if it's not avail. Thanks | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:47:39] <jgartrel> con you shoot me a openssl.cnf? | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:47:42] <jb> weaselkeeper: RPMs are available | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:47:50] <nigelk> jgartrel: I set up the standard openssl CA stuff to do it, I'll see if I can grab a .cnf file today | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:48:06] <fzzzt> weaselkeeper: I've used the non-epel rpms on rhel5 and they have worked perfectly (my manifests havent though) | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:48:15] <weaselkeeper> I just generally stick to what's in epel release rather than testing for the usual reasons. But in this case. I'd rather jump a version if it is stable, and will need some munging to upgrade later. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:48:26] <jb> weaselkeeper: deinetely jump to 0.25 | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:48:32] <jgartrel> ok .. thanks I will try and reverse engineer it in the meantime . | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:48:34] <jb> defintely rather :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:49:01] <fzzzt> weaselkeeper: http://tmz.fedorapeople.org/repo/puppet/epel/5/x86_64/ | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:49:09] <weaselkeeper> thanks | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:49:24] <fzzzt> i'm pretty sure those are the same packages that make it into epel | ||
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| [2010/02/22 16:51:58] <tmz> fzzzt: Not the exact same, but should always be close. 0.25.4 is in epel-testing now though, just: yum --enablerepo epel-testing update puppet | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:54:00] <tmz> Also, if anyone's using and testing those packages, giving positive (or negative) karma at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/EL-5/FEDORA-EPEL-2010-0154 would be welcome. That's for EL-5. There are similar places for fedora and older rhel/centos. | ||
| [2010/02/22 16:55:17] <fzzzt> wow, what a captcha that site has | ||
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| [2010/02/22 16:59:20] <tmz> fzzzt: :) I've heard it can be a pain in the ass. If you see it, I think that means you don't have a fedora account. If not, then I don't think you can give karma (to prevent drive-by abuse). But that might be different now with the captcha. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 17:00:47] <fzzzt> It's pretty crazy, but I got them :P | ||
| [2010/02/22 17:01:04] <fzzzt> hrm, i don't have an acct, but i left feedback anyway | ||
| [2010/02/22 17:02:16] <tmz> Thanks! I think it's about time to get mark that stable. I haven't seen (m)any issues. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 17:17:57] <showy> 0.25 clients can be used with 0.24 masters ? | ||
| [2010/02/22 17:18:59] <Volcane> no | ||
| [2010/02/22 17:22:12] <weaselkeeper> any special notes on .24->.25 upgrades with passenger? webrick works fine with my upgrade now, but passenger isn't working. Diving into logs now, but wondered if there's a known issue to check? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 17:22:50] <nigelk> weaselkeeper: did you update the config.ru file? | ||
| [2010/02/22 17:23:02] <weaselkeeper> umm... | ||
| [2010/02/22 17:23:11] <nigelk> there should be a full config in ext/rack I think in the source distro | ||
| [2010/02/22 17:23:33] <nigelk> it's completely different now and the 0.24.x config.ru doesn't work with 0.25, the new one is much simpler | ||
| [2010/02/22 17:23:59] <weaselkeeper> ok, that gives me something to beat on, thanks | ||
| [2010/02/22 17:24:04] <nigelk> np | ||
| [2010/02/22 17:24:59] <hacim> darn, i just voted for an issue in redmine that I didn't mean to... now I can't unvote :) | ||
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| [2010/02/22 17:26:23] <barn> hacim: just vote every other issue in redmine up | ||
| [2010/02/22 17:26:42] <nigelk> hacim: get two of us to vote it down? :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 17:27:06] <hacim> i dont want it voted down either! :) | ||
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| [2010/02/22 17:31:39] <weaselkeeper> hrm, puppet0.25 via passenger now up, (using config.ru in ext/rack) but terminating connections Is there something else I have to poke? | ||
| [2010/02/22 17:31:48] <weaselkeeper> puppet wiki seems down, so I can't rtfm :P | ||
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| [2010/02/22 17:49:11] <weaselkeeper> nm, had to roll back to passenger-2.2.4 to work with puppet-0.25.4 hrm | ||
| [2010/02/22 17:49:22] <barn> roll the version of passenger dice! | ||
| [2010/02/22 17:52:27] <z00dax> weaselkeeper: from 2.2.9 ? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 17:54:45] <weaselkeeper> yeah, | ||
| [2010/02/22 17:55:17] <z00dax> httpd ? nginx ? | ||
| [2010/02/22 17:55:26] <weaselkeeper> some notes about it in the passenger configs page on reductive labs, just installed the mod_passenger and passenger gems from epel and it's fine now apache | ||
| [2010/02/22 17:55:45] <weaselkeeper> 2.2.9 was installed from gems, Not sad to see that go. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 18:33:40] <eric0> 2.2.9 working fine here | ||
| [2010/02/22 18:33:48] <eric0> with 0.25.4 | ||
| [2010/02/22 18:34:15] <jrojas> ^+1 | ||
| [2010/02/22 18:34:35] <eric0> just make sure you add either the httpd.conf->puppet variable mapping , or httpd.conf StdEnvVars -> puppet.conf mapping | ||
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| [2010/02/22 19:02:28] <joe-mac> ping jamesturnbull | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:02:30] <joe-mac> you around? | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:02:36] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac: I am | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:03:13] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac: I actually in US timezones this week - actually sitting next to Teyo in Reductive's offices in Portland | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:03:27] <jrojas> jamesturnbull: fancy. | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:03:27] <joe-mac> o nice, what are you guys getting done? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 19:07:01] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac: wiki finally goign to nail the bastard | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:08:22] <joe-mac> nice man | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:11:57] <jgartrel> nigelk: any chance on that cnf ... Ive hit a brick wall here ... | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:12:00] <jgartrel> 11586:error:0E06D06C:configuration file routines:NCONF_get_string:no value:conf_lib.c:329:group= name=unique_subject | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:12:21] <jgartrel> the "group= " I have no idea how to get passed | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:12:49] <jgartrel> thats using openssl to generate the cert from the CSR | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:13:59] <jgartrel> is there a way to get puppetca to sign a CSR that was generated manually? | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:14:47] <jrojas> jgartrel: what are you trying to do? | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:15:16] <jgartrel> sign a csr with wildcars in the subject alt name | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:15:40] <jrojas> jgartrel: cant you just use openssl to sign it and then put it in the appropriate place for the puppetmaster? | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:16:01] <jgartrel> sigh ... Im getting the error above | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:16:02] <jgartrel> 11586:error:0E06D06C:configuration file routines:NCONF_get_string:no value:conf_lib.c:329:group= name=unique_subject | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:17:15] <jgartrel> and yes I have unique_subject in my conf, but not in the null section | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:17:28] <jgartrel> I have no idea how to put something in the null group | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:18:50] <jrojas> jgartrel: so set a groupchange unique_subject=no ? | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:19:17] <jgartrel> its in the ca group | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:19:26] <jgartrel> but still the error persists | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:20:26] * tessier ponders someday putting his virtual machine configs in a db and generating the config files using a puppet template pulling stuff out of the db | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:08] <jrojas> jgartrel: can you share your openssl.cnf? | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:36] <jgartrel> root@netops-puppet-01 cert]# cat p.cnf | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:36] <jgartrel> [ ca ] | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:36] <jgartrel> default_ca = CA_default | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:37] <jgartrel> [ CA_default ] | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:37] <jgartrel> dir = ./ssl/ca | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:37] <jgartrel> # unsed at present, and my limited certs can be kept in current dir | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:38] <jgartrel> certs = $dir/certs | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:38] <jgartrel> new_certs_dir = $dir/signed | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:39] <jgartrel> crl_dir = $dir/crl | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:40] <jgartrel> database = $dir/index | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:40] <jgartrel> certificate = $dir/ca_crt.pem | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:41] <jgartrel> serial = $dir/serial | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:41] <jrojas> jgartrel: with pastie | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:42] <jgartrel> crl = $dir/ca_crl.pem | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:42] <jgartrel> private_key = $dir/ca_key.pem | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:43] <jgartrel> RANDFILE = $dir/private/.rand | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:43] <jgartrel> x509_extensions = usr_cert | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:44] <jgartrel> # Make new requests easier to sign - allow two subjects with same name | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:45] <jgartrel> # (Or revoke the old certificate first.) | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:56] <jgartrel> commonName = supplied | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:56] <jgartrel> emailAddress = optional | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:56] <jgartrel> # For the 'anything' policy | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:57] <jgartrel> # At this point in time, you must list all acceptable 'object' | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:57] <jgartrel> # types. | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:58] <jgartrel> [ policy_anything ] | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:58] <jgartrel> countryName = optional | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:58] <jrojas> .. | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:59] <jgartrel> stateOrProvinceName = optional | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:21:59] <jgartrel> localityName = optional | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:22:00] <jgartrel> organizationName = optional | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:22:00] <jgartrel> organizationalUnitName = optional | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:22:01] <jgartrel> commonName = supplied | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:22:02] <jgartrel> emailAddress = optional | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:22:02] <jgartrel> lol | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:22:02] <jrojas> use pastie | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:22:03] <jgartrel> sorry | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:22:03] <jgartrel> excuse me | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:22:15] <jrojas> pastie.org | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:22:23] <jgartrel> http://www.pastie.org/837875 | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:22:39] <jgartrel> I mean excuse me for the pastie | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:22:54] <jgartrel> I didnt copy the link | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:22:57] <jgartrel> lol | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:24:37] <jgartrel> Sorry to all about the paste ... It was meant to be the link to pastie ... but that never made it to my clipboard | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:25:12] <jrojas> jgartrel: were you following any specific instructions? | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:25:25] <jgartrel> no ... groping in the dark | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:25:48] <jgartrel> Ive been able to generate the appropriate CSR | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:25:53] <jgartrel> but not get it signed | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:25:58] <jgartrel> close .. though | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:26:03] <jgartrel> just the error above | ||
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| [2010/02/22 19:28:03] <jrojas> jgartrel: try using the conf here: http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetScalability and modify it for your needs? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 19:29:08] <jgartrel> Im not sure thats any different from mine ... trying though | ||
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| [2010/02/22 19:30:09] <jrojas> jgartrel: why do you want a *.domain cert for the CA anyways? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 19:33:47] <jgartrel> after touch ./ssl/index ./ssl/index.attr ; and adding the email_in_dn = no to the config file .... | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:33:48] <jgartrel> 12522:error:0E06D06C:configuration file routines:NCONF_get_string:no value:conf_lib.c:329:group= name=unique_subject | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:33:51] <jgartrel> same error | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:34:01] <jrojas> hmm | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:34:27] <jrojas> are you sure you are using the proper openssl conf? | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:34:54] <jgartrel> openssl version | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:34:54] <jgartrel> OpenSSL 0.9.8b 04 May 2006 | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:34:58] <jgartrel> and the conf you gave me | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:35:41] <jgartrel> openssl ca -config p2.cnf -in wc.csr -out wc.cert | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:35:55] <jgartrel> where p2.cnf is what you directed me to | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:36:25] <jrojas> did you use the same conf to generate the request? | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:36:56] <jgartrel> no | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:37:30] <jrojas> jgartrel: well that could be a problem... | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:40:13] <weaselkeeper> eric0: sorry, been AFK a while, can you elabourate on " just make sure you add either the httpd.conf->puppet variable mapping , or httpd.conf StdEnvVars -> puppet.conf mapping" | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:40:47] <jrojas> weaselkeeper: there is a section in the config that adds SSLOptions +StdEnvVars | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:40:59] <jrojas> and a bunch of Request header set X- to the vhost config | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:41:13] <jrojas> thats what eric0 was referring to | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:41:35] <weaselkeeper> jrojas: ok, I can look into that. THanks | ||
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| [2010/02/22 19:49:07] <jgartrel> still no workie | ||
| [2010/02/22 19:50:45] <weaselkeeper> jrojas: I already had the SSL stuff enabled as the passenger docs in puppet wiki said, that was working fine with 2.2.9. and puppet 0.24.8, It's working now with the rpm packages of 2passenger 2.2.4 and frankly, I'd rather stick with rpms than gems, so I'll just leave as is. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 20:15:10] <eshamow> posed this question in channel a few days ago -- got a response which i thought worked at the time, turned out it doesn't | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:15:19] <eshamow> i need to get both x86_64 and i386 versions of a package installed | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:15:38] <eshamow> this is on CentOS 4 and 5 set of hosts, running Puppet 0.25.4, yum provider | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:15:54] <eshamow> it was recommended that i use 'pkg.i386' and 'pkg.x86_64' | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:16:07] <eshamow> this works when called via the command line yum, but not when passed to puppet | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:16:14] <eshamow> any ideas? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 20:27:53] <nevyn> eshamow: package{ pkg.i386: doen't work? | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:28:00] <eshamow> nevyn: nope | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:28:12] <eshamow> err: //mod-oas-de/Package[apr_i386]/ensure: change from absent to 0.9.4-24.9 failed: Could not update: Could not find package apr.i386 at /etc/puppet/modules/mod-oas-de/manifests/init.pp:11 | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:28:30] <eshamow> and the apr_i386 in the first line there is after many attempts at using apr.i386 | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:28:40] <eshamow> then using a different name from alias, etc etc | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:28:50] <nevyn> oh whee. | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:28:51] <eshamow> it seems as though puppet can't see the different between both pacakges | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:29:45] <eshamow> yum can see it and install straight from the command line. | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:30:04] <eshamow> what i'm doing now is defining a custom provider to see if i can force it to install that way...but obviously the yum provider should work | ||
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| [2010/02/22 20:38:50] <pquerna> hi, i'm having some trouble getting variable scope right with a template -- the varible I am trying to get always seems to be undefined, even if i use the scope.lookupvar function mentioned on the wiki | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:40:30] <Djelibeybi> lak: do you know you just pasted the URL to the GPLv2 instead of your actual LVM module in your email to puppet-dev? :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:40:41] <lak> hur | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:40:42] <lak> no | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:40:44] <lak> :/ | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:40:45] <lak> crap | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:41:36] <Djelibeybi> I was considering a facetious reply showing the --debug output when I try to use the GPLv2 as a module, but I sat quietly until that feeling passed. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 20:42:29] <lak> Djelibeybi: i appreciate it :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:42:33] <eshamow> nevyn: just found a bug that seems to indicate that it won't be fixed -- take a look at #1380 | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:42:34] <gepetto> eshamow: nevyn: #1380 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/1380 "Puppet - Bug #1380: type package with yum installs/updates native arch - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:42:38] <Djelibeybi> lak: I thought you might. | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:42:46] <eshamow> heh -- gepetto -- talk about timing | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:43:02] <eshamow> any known workarounds? nothing in the ticket really helps | ||
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| [2010/02/22 20:43:50] <Djelibeybi> lak: question about that namespace issue for LVs: Can't I have logical_volume { "vgname-lvname": name => "lvname", volume_group => "vgname", } | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:44:11] <Djelibeybi> eshamow: gepetto is a bot. he was kindly showing us the URL to the bug you found | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:44:23] <eshamow> oh crap. well that explains his awesome timing | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:44:29] <eshamow> thanks Djelibeybi | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:44:38] <pquerna> hmm. actually, looks like its concating it into a string: http://pastebin.com/m5539a19d instead of a list. | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:47:49] <eshamow> ok looks like i may have found a workaround. but it relies on specifying an exact version number | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:48:33] <eshamow> package { 'apr_i386': | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:48:34] <eshamow> name => 'apr', | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:48:34] <eshamow> ensure => '0.9.4-24.9', } | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:48:42] <eshamow> apologies -- that should be | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:48:45] <eshamow> name => 'apr.i386' | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:48:50] <eshamow> will not work. however: | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:49:00] <eshamow> package { 'apr_i386': | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:49:00] <eshamow> name => 'apr-0.9.4-24.9.i386', | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:49:00] <eshamow> ensure => installed, | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:49:00] <eshamow> } | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:49:01] <eshamow> will | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:49:24] <eshamow> looks like the default yum provider is having trouble appending the architecture to the end of the version number. so as long as you specify an exact version, you are fine | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:51:14] <lak> Djelibeybi: i don't understand your question | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:51:24] <nevyn> eshamow: gepetto is a bot man | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:51:40] <eshamow> yeah i realized, a little late | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:51:45] <eshamow> see a few lines back, i did find a workaround | ||
| [2010/02/22 20:51:46] <Djelibeybi> lak: nevermind, I just realised my question is stupid. | ||
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| [2010/02/22 22:58:52] <Bevo> jamesturnbull, hey you around ? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 22:59:52] <Bevo> can anyone tell me why i can no longer edit pages on the puppet track wiki? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 23:16:02] <nb> hmm, i have a puppet module which has ensure running for puppet, and it doesn't make it start on my puppetmaster | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:16:10] <nb> puppetmasters still need the puppetd running too don't they? | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:16:37] <Djelibeybi> nb: only if you want to manage your puppetmaster with puppet | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:16:48] <nb> which i do | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:16:56] <Djelibeybi> nb: but, if puppet is running, then ensure => running is true. | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:17:13] <nb> ooh, so even if i puppetd -t, it will see that it is running? | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:17:26] <nb> so it won't start the background service if i run puppet via puppetd -t the first time? | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:17:30] <nb> makes sense i guess | ||
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| [2010/02/22 23:17:47] <nb> but it did look like it chkconfig'ed it on | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:17:55] <Djelibeybi> nb: correct. I get puppet to create a cronjob that checks if puppet is running and starts it if not | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:18:05] <Djelibeybi> That also solves the "someone stops puppet" problem | ||
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| [2010/02/22 23:20:54] <nb> yeah | ||
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| [2010/02/22 23:28:30] <LinuxCode> I am trying to use a custom fact, I dumped it into the module, it syncs with the puppet node | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:28:40] <LinuxCode> however, running facter doesnt run it | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:28:53] <LinuxCode> but exporting the dir as a ruby lib dir does | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:29:14] <LinuxCode> anyone know why it might not execute otherwise ? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 23:32:59] <Djelibeybi> LinuxCode: known bug with running facter manually | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:33:07] <LinuxCode> aha! | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:33:19] <LinuxCode> was there a fix mate ? | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:33:28] <LinuxCode> and if so do you know the version by chance ? | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:33:30] <Djelibeybi> LinuxCode: not yet, AFAIK. Next major version of Factor (1.6) | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:33:32] <joe-mac> what's that, facter factname working for some facs and not others? | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:33:48] <LinuxCode> joe-mac, no, facter not working for the sync dir | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:33:49] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac: no, running # facter doesn't show the output of custom facts that have been distributed by Puppet | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:33:49] <joe-mac> that one always pisses me off, so i'ber gotten used to running facter | grep factname | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:33:56] <joe-mac> OOOO | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:34:09] <joe-mac> i don't have any custom facts yet surprisingly after like a year+ of puoppet | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:34:11] <LinuxCode> Djelibeybi, I guess just bashprofile the export then | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:34:24] <LinuxCode> temporarily | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:34:48] <LinuxCode> at first I thought my fact broke on me haha | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:34:50] <Djelibeybi> LinuxCode: that would work | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:34:55] @ Quit: bgupta: Quit: bgupta | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:34:58] <LinuxCode> I was like O_o | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:35:29] <LinuxCode> was james around by chance ? | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:35:37] <joe-mac> jamesturnbull should be around | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:35:41] <joe-mac> he's in portland this week apparently | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:35:45] <LinuxCode> jamesturnbull, ping | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:35:47] <joe-mac> doing the wiki migration | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:35:51] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull is in Portland | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:35:55] <Djelibeybi> Oh, snap | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:36:03] <joe-mac> yea Djelibeybi guess so | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:36:10] <joe-mac> i talked to him a few hours ago | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:36:16] <LinuxCode> I need the guys to fix their SMTPD | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:36:25] <joe-mac> oh? why' | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:36:27] <joe-mac> s that? | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:36:32] <LinuxCode> just want to check and see , if they saw my message here | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:36:41] <LinuxCode> joe-mac, its not sending a fqdn ehlo | ||
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| [2010/02/22 23:36:56] <joe-mac> oooo i c | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:36:57] <LinuxCode> bouncy bouncy email | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:37:08] <LinuxCode> ;-} | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:37:13] <joe-mac> yea i think james would be the guy on that, i think he is like RL's IT guy lol | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:37:35] <joe-mac> it's funny to even think about it like that to me... | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:37:41] * LinuxCode would like his login for the wiki | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:37:43] <Djelibeybi> I could text him if it's important | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:37:51] <LinuxCode> gotta file a bug for puppet.vim | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:37:58] <LinuxCode> and errm something else, cant recall | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:38:05] <LinuxCode> Djelibeybi, hmmmm | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:38:05] <joe-mac> LinuxCode: i can file it if you really don't want to register... | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:38:15] <LinuxCode> joe-mac, I want to register | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:38:21] <joe-mac> o but the email | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:38:24] <LinuxCode> haha | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:38:28] <LinuxCode> you see the dilemma! | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:38:29] <joe-mac> gotcha | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:38:31] <LinuxCode> ;-} | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:38:33] <joe-mac> yea man that sucks | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:38:35] <Djelibeybi> I'll text jamesturnbull | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:38:50] <LinuxCode> Djelibeybi, hmmmm | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:38:53] <joe-mac> everyone who uses puppet should register on the wiki and the bug tracker especially imo | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:38:58] <LinuxCode> I dont like disturbing him | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:39:17] <joe-mac> people like me who are not heavy coders, i feel like it's our duty to do the little stuff like file bugs and help out in here | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:39:22] <LinuxCode> but it not being rfc compliant is kinda a bummer | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:39:32] <LinuxCode> joe-mac, hehe yeh | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:39:35] <joe-mac> i didn't know the RFC called for FQDN | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:39:42] <Djelibeybi> LinuxCode: sent. I don't mind disturbing him at all. :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:39:45] @ Quit: mikerowehl: Quit: mikerowehl | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:39:49] <LinuxCode> Djelibeybi, hehe k | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:39:54] <joe-mac> Djelibeybi: are you a coworker of his or something? | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:40:03] <LinuxCode> just ask him to change the hostname to be fqdn | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:40:05] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac: no, he's one of my 3 best friends. | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:40:47] <joe-mac> o nice, so you gusy actually go back? | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:40:49] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac: though don't tell him that. it'll go right to his head. | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:41:18] <joe-mac> i only have a couple friends in it, well, had, now it's down to one after an ex had relations with him rofl | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:41:22] <LinuxCode> yeh, best to keep close people as "enemies" | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:41:25] <LinuxCode> makes them work harder | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:41:27] <LinuxCode> haha | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:41:29] <LinuxCode> j/k | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:41:53] <joe-mac> while she wasn't an ex... lmao was about to get him an interview to do QA for red hat too... | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:41:56] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac: we've known each other for about 2 years now. Ironically, I'm now a vendor consultant to the company for which he works. | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:42:14] <joe-mac> sweet, what kind of stuff do you sell, sw, hw? | ||
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| [2010/02/22 23:43:39] * Djelibeybi works for Oracle, so .. yes. | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:43:51] <joe-mac> o yea that's right now i reemember | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:44:08] <joe-mac> there's one right in burlington, which is funny cause it's the buuilding directly next door to | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:44:10] <joe-mac> SAP | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:44:18] <joe-mac> (massachusetts) | ||
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| [2010/02/22 23:44:57] <LinuxCode> Djelibeybi, if he calls you say I said hi | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:45:22] <Djelibeybi> LinuxCode: I doubt he'll call. I'll get a rude text in a few hours, I'd imagine. ;-) | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:45:29] <LinuxCode> lol k | ||
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| [2010/02/22 23:45:35] <joe-mac> haha... now that's what friends are for | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:45:42] <joe-mac> rude and/or drunken texts and vms | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:46:17] <LinuxCode> I thought that privilege was restricted to brothers/sisters | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:46:27] <joe-mac> took me a while to get my company to pay for me to have a phone so i had it going to my blackberry, which meant i could never turn it off so drunken phone calls waking me up became the norm for a few months, soooo glad i now have a work cell | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:46:50] <LinuxCode> joe-mac, Red Hat ? | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:47:05] <joe-mac> yea i used to work there at the westford office | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:47:12] <LinuxCode> k | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:47:43] <joe-mac> not an engineer, i was on the 'helpdesk', hated the term cause it was like supporting, deploying desktops and laptops for a world wide mass of people... | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:48:19] <LinuxCode> yeh, spot has some funny stories while he used to do that | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:48:24] <joe-mac> it was fun, real fun... i just felt like i was digging deeper and deeper into the 'support hole' | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:48:31] <joe-mac> spot? the sparc lead guy? | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:48:34] <LinuxCode> I understand that feeling | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:48:43] <LinuxCode> Tom | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:49:06] <joe-mac> callaway was it? | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:49:11] <LinuxCode> yah | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:49:19] <joe-mac> yea he sat directly across from me in the old office heh | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:49:26] <LinuxCode> haha cool | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:49:38] <joe-mac> i was a total sparc geek when i was a teenager so i used to geek out in his cube sometimes lol | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:49:48] <joe-mac> he's no longer with RH? | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:49:48] <LinuxCode> lol | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:49:52] <LinuxCode> he is | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:49:55] <joe-mac> oooo ok | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:50:26] <joe-mac> i was gonna say, he was pretty good from what i understood, made aurora linux back when rh stopped making sparc edition | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:51:00] <joe-mac> and when i left they were thinking or working on making FC have a sparc version | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:51:15] <LinuxCode> Fedora has one now | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:51:16] <joe-mac> idk what ever happened with that | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:51:21] <joe-mac> really they finally did it eh | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:51:45] <joe-mac> that's cool i'm thinking about buying a t2000 and colo'ing it | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:51:50] <LinuxCode> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:51:57] <joe-mac> LDOMs really make me feel all funny inside | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:52:08] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac: you mean Oracle VM Server for SPARC. :p | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:52:38] <joe-mac> Djelibeybi: i honestly know very little abiotu oracle products other than i filed expense reports in it at one job | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:52:39] <joe-mac> lol | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:53:02] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac: we "renamed" LDoms ... or at least, the website did. | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:53:07] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac: I was quite amused | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:53:26] <LinuxCode> probably too close to "linux domains" | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:53:34] <LinuxCode> people (suits) might get confused | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:53:35] <joe-mac> O FFS that's so stupid | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:53:43] <LinuxCode> lol | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:53:45] <Djelibeybi> No, just to bring it into the Oracle VM product family | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:53:51] <Djelibeybi> Like VirtualBox is now Oracle VM VirtualBox | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:53:52] <LinuxCode> ahh | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:54:02] <LinuxCode> will that happen to mysql | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:54:06] <LinuxCode> OracelSQL | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:54:08] <joe-mac> Oracle MySQL | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:54:08] <LinuxCode> haha | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:54:09] <joe-mac> lol | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:54:16] <Djelibeybi> Heh, I doubt it. | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:54:23] <joe-mac> i thjink mysql is actually going to get better | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:54:24] <Djelibeybi> I'd be more interested to see what happens to Open/StarOffice | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:54:25] <LinuxCode> not for the next 5 years anyway | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:54:33] <LinuxCode> they made a promise | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:54:36] <joe-mac> i have a feeling they will put some features in it from the big DB | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:54:50] <LinuxCode> joe-mac, I think they will scrap mysql | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:54:51] <joe-mac> supposedly they're going to invest in sparc hardware | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:54:53] <LinuxCode> ;-| | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:54:56] <joe-mac> LinuxCode: seriously? | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:55:02] <Djelibeybi> LinuxCode: no, we don't | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:55:06] <joe-mac> i don't think so man, i think it's so widely used they will make it better | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:55:08] <joe-mac> market it more | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:55:10] <LinuxCode> Djelibeybi, good, or I keeel you | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:55:14] <Djelibeybi> LinuxCode: we want to invest in MySQL as a Microsoft SQL Server killer | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:55:24] <joe-mac> Djelibeybi: ++++++ | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:55:31] <joe-mac> i give oracle a high five for that | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:55:31] <LinuxCode> Djelibeybi, ok, now I like Oracle a bit more | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:55:38] <Djelibeybi> And if all else fails, there is always MariaDB. :p | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:55:44] <Djelibeybi> LinuxCode: we've owned InnoDB for *years* | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:55:45] <LinuxCode> hahah yeh innit | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:55:49] <joe-mac> wtf is mariadb | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:55:54] <LinuxCode> joe-mac, spin off | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:55:55] <joe-mac> really??!? | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:55:55] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac: Monty's fork of MySQL | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:56:02] <joe-mac> i never even knew that about innodb | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:56:07] <LinuxCode> nor me | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:56:28] <Djelibeybi> Yeah, we bought Innobase at least 3 years ago | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:56:34] <Djelibeybi> And BerkeleyDB | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:56:38] <Djelibeybi> We own them both. :) | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:57:12] <joe-mac> holy shit | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:57:20] <joe-mac> i really had no idea about that | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:57:24] <LinuxCode> I should have written that to my MEP | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:57:26] <LinuxCode> lol | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:57:28] <joe-mac> i thought no one owned berkeley's shit | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:57:36] <LinuxCode> but now you say, they want to make it better and invest | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:57:44] <LinuxCode> Im more ...optimistic | ||
| [2010/02/22 23:57:51] <odyi> What! Is there a real live Oracle person here? |
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