| [2010/02/23 00:00:04] @ Log started by gepetto | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:00:04] <joe-mac> the thing with renaming LDOMs is, it's not a VM really | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:00:12] <Djelibeybi> odyi: I know nothing about OpenSolaris, so go right ahead. | ||
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| [2010/02/23 00:00:18] <joe-mac> iwhich, idk obviously you know, but you get what i am saying right? | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:00:21] <LinuxCode> Djelibeybi, haha | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:00:23] <LinuxCode> <3 | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:00:23] <joe-mac> it's like hardware virtualization | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:00:27] @ Quit: Chiku: Read error: Connection reset by peer | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:00:31] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac: yeah, it is. LDoms are virtual running on a Solaris-based hypervisor | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:00:36] <joe-mac> big iron shit, in lower end servers... it's impressive to me | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:00:47] <Djelibeybi> But yeah, I get the point | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:00:50] <joe-mac> The hypervisor is based on solaris? i never knew that | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:01:02] <LinuxCode> 5am meh | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:01:03] <Djelibeybi> Yeah, same with the xVM concept: Xen with a Solaris Dom0 | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:01:04] <joe-mac> man you're just dropping bomb after bomb on me tonight | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:01:21] <Djelibeybi> So, now we're certifying Solaris x86 on Oracle VM instead | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:01:25] <joe-mac> yea i knew about xVM, but not that LDoms had a solaris hypervisor | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:01:30] <LinuxCode> joe-mac, stop trying to be an ostrich then lol | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:01:44] <joe-mac> lol what? /me missed that reference | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:01:51] <LinuxCode> "hide from all interesting facts" | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:01:55] <LinuxCode> head in sand | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:02:00] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac: well, that's a bit of a hand-wave | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:02:03] * Djelibeybi should stop talking about LDoms. | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:02:25] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac: there is SPARC/hardware funkiness happening as well with LDoms, I'm led to believe. | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:02:29] <joe-mac> AHH actually i'm kind of like obsessive compulsive about information that i don't know, i wikipedia shit like insanely | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:02:43] <joe-mac> yea, LDoms are like low level partitioning of resources | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:02:49] <Djelibeybi> All I know is that soon Oracle VM Manager will be managing both Oracle VM for Intel (Xen) and SPARC (LDoms) | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:02:56] <joe-mac> that's sick dude | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:03:18] <joe-mac> i really want a t2000, i had a t1000 but i bought it at a bad time and had to sell it almost immediately after getting it | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:04:02] * Djelibeybi wants a Thumper | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:04:13] <joe-mac> anyone know if you can compile openssl to use the niagara's hardware ssl acceleration but on linux? | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:04:19] <Djelibeybi> Or a Sun Oracle Database Machine | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:04:25] * odyi has a thumper and a thor | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:04:29] <odyi> And needs another one | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:04:41] <Djelibeybi> odyi: you seen the new Sun Oracle Exadata units? | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:05:11] <Djelibeybi> The Sun Oracle Database Machine (full rack) does 1 million random I/Ops per second. | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:06:23] <odyi> Djelibeybi: push the discounts similar to the old Sun matching grant program and you will see my department dropping a good 100k | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:06:26] <joe-mac> jesus | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:06:46] <Djelibeybi> odyi: yeah, I just want the Sun hardware to show up on our internal iProcurement system. :p | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:07:10] <joe-mac> i'm actually kinda poushing to get one of those unified storage boxes | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:07:13] <joe-mac> what do you think of them Djelibeybi | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:07:23] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac: no idea, haven't managed to lay my hands on one | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:07:28] <joe-mac> you are a sales engineer? you seem to know a lot about engineering if so... | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:08:02] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac: I'm a Linux and Virtualization Architect for Advanced Customer Services | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:08:05] <joe-mac> Djelibeybi: yea they seem really nice, just so many projects going on right now getting a san or storage at all has been backburnered | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:08:17] <odyi> Unified storage is my primary goal for redoing my storage infrastructure. | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:08:20] <joe-mac> o ok, cause i was gonna say, weird for an SE to be knowing about and using puppet heh | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:08:27] <joe-mac> odyi: hgave you tried the VM yet? | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:08:31] <Djelibeybi> I was an SE when I first started. | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:08:38] <joe-mac> the web interface and even the CLI for it are freaking sweeeeet | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:08:40] <odyi> joe-mac: which VM | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:08:48] <joe-mac> the sun unified storage platform | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:08:59] <joe-mac> it has a test vm with vmdk';s instead of disks so you can see what the appliance is like | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:09:10] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac: really? URL? I want to play too! :) | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:09:16] <odyi> I have not. | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:09:17] <joe-mac> let me find it | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:09:24] * Djelibeybi hasn't managed to find all the new Sun stuff on the website yet | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:10:04] <odyi> I have been doing ZFS administration for a couple years, running iSCSI on top of it and COMSTAR. Only thing this those VMs would teach me is the pretty GUI. | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:10:48] <Djelibeybi> odyi: surely iSCSI *underneath* ZFS? Or am I misunderstanding ZFS again? (btrfs rules!) | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:10:48] <joe-mac> http://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_SMI-Site/en_US/-/USD/VerifyItem-Start/SunStorageVMware.zip?BundledLineItemUUID=LopIBe.pDpkAAAEmK5hBhvk7&OrderID=BvRIBe.ptgcAAAEmCZhBhvk7&ProductID=PYZIBe.psQwAAAEd_ZcTiX1c&FileName=/SunStorageVMware.zip | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:10:51] <joe-mac> that's the vmware one | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:11:03] <joe-mac> this is for xbox http://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_SMI-Site/en_US/-/USD/VerifyItem-Start/SunStorageVBox.zip?BundledLineItemUUID=hDpIBe.pbLkAAAEmH5hBhvk7&OrderID=BvRIBe.ptgcAAAEmCZhBhvk7&ProductID=PYZIBe.psQwAAAEd_ZcTiX1c&FileName=/SunStorageVBox.zip | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:11:15] <joe-mac> vbox** | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:11:21] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac: do you have the page that links to those perhaps? | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:11:24] <joe-mac> sorry, was playing assassins creed earlier lol | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:11:31] <joe-mac> yea let me hit back a couple times | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:11:34] <odyi> Djelibeybi: yes you are misunderstood | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:11:35] <Djelibeybi> That way I can try and find them internally | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:11:38] <Djelibeybi> odyi: woo! | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:11:46] <odyi> ZFS is more then a filesystem | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:11:53] <odyi> it is a volume manager too | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:12:16] <Djelibeybi> odyi: gotcha | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:14:06] * odyi really hates fedora | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:14:28] <odyi> I manage one two boxes for a couple special people and it sucks | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:14:36] <LinuxCode> oi! | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:14:39] <LinuxCode> lol | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:16:16] <joe-mac> odyi: i like it to dick around with | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:16:37] <joe-mac> but i mean, how cna you reliably manage something that changes every 6 months and i feel like doesn't really have a good upgrade path | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:16:50] <joe-mac> like at least noobuntu has an LTS concept... | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:16:50] <LinuxCode> joe-mac, puppet | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:17:02] <joe-mac> but i guess the point is, buy RHEL if you really need it | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:17:13] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac: no, buy Oracle Enterprise Linux. We're cheaper. :p | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:17:17] <LinuxCode> joe-mac, a lot of us use centos | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:17:19] <Djelibeybi> (I really should stop) | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:17:23] * odyi uses OpenSolaris on 3 of his 5 computers personal computers, 1 ubuntu, 1 OSX. | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:17:36] <odyi> Then I manage near 200 Ubuntu/Solaris 10 machines | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:17:44] * odyi really dislikes fedora | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:17:53] <LinuxCode> odyi, you keep saying that | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:17:57] <odyi> And I agree on the ugrade path | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:17:58] <LinuxCode> dont make me slap you | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:18:02] <LinuxCode> lol | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:18:03] <odyi> It bites | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:18:05] <LinuxCode> ;-D | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:18:33] <LinuxCode> one reason I love puppet | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:18:43] <LinuxCode> 12 mins, bye bye old version | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:18:50] <joe-mac> i manage around 70 ubuntu boxes at work, use ubuntu on my personal machines, and manage openbsd firewalls at work | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:19:03] <Djelibeybi> odyi: I love Fedora and loathe Debian, so there you go. | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:19:12] <Djelibeybi> But, I run MacOS X on my desktop/laptop | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:19:13] <LinuxCode> Djelibeybi, thank you! | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:19:17] <joe-mac> i've got to say, ubuntu just idk, it lacks in the server dept. to me you can tell that they don't really give a shit about the server distro | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:19:46] <joe-mac> i think it'sd a good desktop, but then again, anything unix or unix like is fine by me as long as it has modern media support | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:19:55] <LinuxCode> all I really care about is that people dont run windows | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:20:02] <LinuxCode> I get enough spam , thank you | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:20:06] <LinuxCode> hehe | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:20:23] <joe-mac> LinuxCode: yea man i really would love to make the case to get our desktops all on SuSE and use eDirectory | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:20:24] <LinuxCode> or if they do, keep that pesky network cable unplugged | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:20:38] <joe-mac> and then use ubuntu for some departments who are more technical | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:20:44] <joe-mac> i could manage them all with puppet | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:21:05] <LinuxCode> kickstart+puppet is just awesome | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:24:08] <joe-mac> yea, once i got preseed working it is also teh sickness | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:24:50] <joe-mac> i use ubuntu 8.04 LTS and the docs say you can do software raid and show you how... but neglect to mention it's not actually included in the cd which means you have to do some magic in something called an early_command and download and install it | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:25:05] <joe-mac> oh and there is a bug that causes it to crash with no pertinent error if you have a line that has whitespace in it only | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:25:21] <joe-mac> by it i mean the preseed file | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:25:45] <joe-mac> once i got past all this shit, my env is fairly stable | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:25:53] <joe-mac> just rolled out puppet on the west coast | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:26:02] <joe-mac> hopefully get their 20-30 machines on it | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:26:25] <joe-mac> i wish openbsd had a little more automation features to it | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:26:51] <odyi> I probably more despise having to learn debian PAM then lean fedora PAM. At least when I figure it out i record it with puppet! | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:26:57] <odyi> And forget about it | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:27:35] <joe-mac> i don't follow, pam is pam? | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:27:56] <joe-mac> you mean like their defaults and whatnot? | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:28:10] <joe-mac> i gotta write that pam type | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:29:05] <joe-mac> gahh my internet connection is shit, you guys see this msg? | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:29:56] <joe-mac> if anyone is still interested in the sun unified storage simulator, first page to dl it is here http://www.sun.com/storage/disk_systems/unified_storage/resources.jsp | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:30:15] <odyi> joe-mac: yes the PAM defaults are completely and utterly different. Tracking down each file can be annoying. | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:30:26] <odyi> As so many include so many others | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:30:37] <Djelibeybi> joe-mac: ta muchly | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:30:44] <joe-mac> i hear you. hopefully i write this type and you it will support the resources type to remove ones you don't manage | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:31:12] <odyi> joe-mac: that would be awesome | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:31:39] <joe-mac> yea, and if you've got a nice strict "other" config file, you'll be in pretty good shape wrt security | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:33:51] <joe-mac> i'd l ike to maybe work on making a facl type too, which i also put in a ticket like a year ago for | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:33:58] * joe-mac is into info sec | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:34:37] <joe-mac> met kevin mitnick the other day | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:34:52] <joe-mac> i was like star struck lol, my idol growing up... | ||
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| [2010/02/23 00:51:09] <nevyn> sigh. | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:51:12] * nevyn slaps joe-mac | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:51:17] <joe-mac> ? | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:51:21] <joe-mac> why? | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:51:21] <nevyn> kevin mitnick is a punk. | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:51:26] <joe-mac> rofl | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:51:31] <nevyn> he wasn't inovative. | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:51:41] <nevyn> he was a social engineer and a bad one of those. | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:52:02] <joe-mac> he was a bad social engineer? he broke into some of the biggest software vendors of the day using these techniques | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:52:09] <joe-mac> it took teh fbi quite a while to find him | ||
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| [2010/02/23 00:52:29] <nevyn> he got caught. | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:52:37] <joe-mac> i find social engineering and physical security hacking to be one of the most interesting fields out there | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:52:52] <nevyn> social engineering is neat. | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:52:54] <joe-mac> and he managed to stay on the run for quite some time- and almost got away the time he got caught too | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:52:57] <nevyn> kevin mitnick isn't | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:53:10] <joe-mac> anyways, when you're 12 or something- he's like a cowboy | ||
| [2010/02/23 00:53:20] <joe-mac> i am 24 now | ||
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| [2010/02/23 02:55:19] <JD_> with exported resources, if I notify an exec, will the exec happen on the node definiting the resource or the node collecting them? | ||
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| [2010/02/23 03:17:06] <Osax> How do I install software from source using puppet? | ||
| [2010/02/23 03:17:27] <Osax> I google but cant find anything, just how to use packages | ||
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| [2010/02/23 03:18:39] <Osax> Is it possible? | ||
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| [2010/02/23 03:19:33] <Osax> How do I install software from source using puppet? | ||
| [2010/02/23 03:23:27] <LinuxCode> Osax, using execs | ||
| [2010/02/23 03:23:34] <LinuxCode> yes its possible | ||
| [2010/02/23 03:23:46] <LinuxCode> do i do it ? no | ||
| [2010/02/23 03:23:59] <LinuxCode> i thibnk there was an example on the wiki though | ||
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| [2010/02/23 03:29:09] <Osax> ok thanx | ||
| [2010/02/23 03:29:29] <Osax> but the execs times out | ||
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| [2010/02/23 03:30:51] <duritong> anybody has this cpu cycle article? | ||
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| [2010/02/23 03:32:25] <LinuxCode> Osax, make sure you get an exit code | ||
| [2010/02/23 03:32:31] <LinuxCode> and a correct one | ||
| [2010/02/23 03:32:40] <LinuxCode> I think you can specify timeouts too | ||
| [2010/02/23 03:33:03] <LinuxCode> http://reductivelabs.com/static_files/TypeReference.html#exec | ||
| [2010/02/23 03:33:04] <LinuxCode> indeed | ||
| [2010/02/23 03:33:06] <LinuxCode> timeout | ||
| [2010/02/23 03:33:19] <LinuxCode> returns specifies the exit code | ||
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| [2010/02/23 03:37:05] <Osax> cool, thanx | ||
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| [2010/02/23 03:37:35] <LinuxCode> pleasure | ||
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| [2010/02/23 03:39:56] <JD_> why would you install from source? that sort of defeats the point of puppet, to have a consistent, reproducable setup | ||
| [2010/02/23 03:42:44] <nareshov> how about building RPMs DEBs and hosting on your local repo and pulling packages from there and installing? | ||
| [2010/02/23 03:43:00] <JD_> aye, that's what we've done in the past | ||
| [2010/02/23 03:43:18] <nareshov> (or even BSD-style TGZs) | ||
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| [2010/02/23 04:07:11] <zeroXten> heya, any recommended revision control software for use with puppet? needs to track permissions as well as sync between multiple servers | ||
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| [2010/02/23 04:07:34] <whack> I've used both rsync and rpm (in different situations) before | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:07:45] <Djelibeybi> zeroXten: for the manifests? | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:08:14] <whack> also had a cron job that did 'svn update' (roughly) periodically on the master to pull new manifests from svn | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:08:33] <zeroXten> Djelibeybi: yeah | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:08:43] <Djelibeybi> zeroXten: I use Subversion. I know a lot of people use git | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:09:02] <zeroXten> hmm, i thought git didn't track file permissions | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:09:11] <whack> what about permissions do you need to manageg? | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:09:12] <zeroXten> unless you extend it with etckeeper or whatever | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:09:28] <Volcane> zeroXten: you dont track file permissions in the scm you specify what they should be in puppet and puppets sets it on the eventual nodes | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:09:52] <Djelibeybi> zeroXten: Yeah, I don't track permissions on my Puppet stuff. It's actually a different permission on the Puppet Master because of security | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:09:53] <zeroXten> Volcane: yeah, i'm talking about on the puppetmaster itself | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:10:11] <Djelibeybi> zeroXten: I have a checkout script that checks out of SVN then sets permissions | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:10:22] <zeroXten> ah | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:10:25] <Volcane> you manage that with the umask of the user/script that does your checkout easiest | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:10:31] <zeroXten> true | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:10:58] <Volcane> ie. user changing perms and checking in doesnt compromise your security | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:11:28] <zeroXten> Volcane: good point | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:11:57] <zeroXten> so.. only thing would be mirroring the svn repo | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:12:09] <Volcane> svnsync | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:12:40] <zeroXten> nice.. gotta love irc ;) | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:12:43] <Volcane> or just have each of your masters do a svn export agsinst it | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:12:49] <Volcane> thats the better model for svn | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:13:04] <zeroXten> well, ideally i'd have two copies of the history | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:13:12] <Volcane> (export, not checkout) | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:13:21] <Volcane> thats what backups are for | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:14:57] <zeroXten> yeah, but in this particular case i think i'd rather mirror the active/passive puppetmasters | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:15:09] <Volcane> but yes, i have svnsync from master (in dev) to a slave in staging and prod | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:15:17] <Volcane> so stagingn and prod machines cant check into svn | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:15:23] <Volcane> and then the masters for each does a svn export | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:15:27] <zeroXten> r | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:15:37] <zeroXten> but they do contain full history? | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:15:48] <Volcane> yeah svnsync syncs the repo | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:15:52] <zeroXten> cool | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:16:05] <zeroXten> so, you have three puppet systems, one for each stage? | ||
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| [2010/02/23 04:17:48] <zeroXten> thats one thing i still need to get my head around... the deployment workflow | ||
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| [2010/02/23 04:51:28] <rasputnik> any built-in types to manage SSH server keys? I need N servers to have the same SSH server keys. | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:52:26] <rasputnik> get the impression the 'sshkey' type manages known_hosts, not the keys that servers serve out. | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:52:27] <geekatcmu> Those would be ... files. | ||
| [2010/02/23 04:52:40] <rasputnik> geekatcmu, :) think you may be right. | ||
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| [2010/02/23 05:04:17] <zeroXten> any docs on the wiki for managing dev/staging/production? | ||
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| [2010/02/23 05:08:26] <zeroXten> ahh "environments" | ||
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| [2010/02/23 05:13:01] <geekatcmu> Yeah, I really need to learn about those. | ||
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| [2010/02/23 05:33:16] <rasputnik> got an array of files to serve out - see http://pastie.org/838351 . Hoped $name would expand to the filename, but it's the enclosing class. | ||
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| [2010/02/23 05:44:20] <geekatcmu> Perhaps you secretly mean $hostname or $fqdn? | ||
| [2010/02/23 05:45:26] <rasputnik> no, I have all 6 files there, they're the same on all hosts (it's load-balanced SFTP, not really SSH). I just don't want to have to write 6 file resources that are all basically the same. | ||
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| [2010/02/23 06:01:22] <geekatcmu> Oh, I see. Perhaps you mean $target then? | ||
| [2010/02/23 06:01:40] <geekatcmu> Or am I crossing the streams with another type? | ||
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| [2010/02/23 06:09:08] <geekatcmu> Would http://pastie.org/838396 meet your requirements? | ||
| [2010/02/23 06:10:53] <geekatcmu> Once more, while I understand the whole "purity of declarative nature" thing, lack of support for iterative constructs (not quite the same as actual iteration) sometimes makes things more painful than they really need to be. | ||
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| [2010/02/23 06:41:55] <rasputnik> geekatcmu, definitely. Thanks for the alternative, but it's still annoying to have to define 6 resources. I settle for : file { "/etc/ssh": ensure => directory, recurse => true} | ||
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| [2010/02/23 08:05:44] <inveratulo> so i have a host with numerous names (and interfaces)... how do I generate the cert for a particular hostname? | ||
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| [2010/02/23 08:38:19] <soren> inveratulo: You can specify an fqdn in puppet.conf | ||
| [2010/02/23 08:38:50] <inveratulo> soren: yea i realized that shortly after typing it... just getting frustrated with this cert business | ||
| [2010/02/23 08:40:31] <inveratulo> if i'm reading this right, "puppet" has to be in my /etc/hosts for every client | ||
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| [2010/02/23 08:41:24] <agaffney> you have multiple options | ||
| [2010/02/23 08:42:00] <agaffney> add "puppet" to /etc/hosts, create a DNS entry for "puppet" + the DNS search domain on your clients, or use 'server = foo.bar.com' in puppet.conf on your clients | ||
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| [2010/02/23 08:48:19] <duritong> or have a working dns which resolves puppet | ||
| [2010/02/23 08:52:00] <masterzen> which is certainly the simplest solution | ||
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| [2010/02/23 08:54:36] <inveratulo> true... everything is working cert-wise now, which is a relief | ||
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| [2010/02/23 09:22:14] <pugnacity> Could not call puppetbucket.addfile: #<RuntimeError: HTTP-Error: 413 Request Entity Too Large> << i get this error how can i solv this? | ||
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| [2010/02/23 09:40:27] <scavara> hi there. trying to setup rsync module and everything is pretty much straight forward BUT (there's always one ;) thing got complicated when i tried to fiddle around with rsync(d).secret(s) file(s) | ||
| [2010/02/23 09:42:45] <scavara> i'm trying to get the password part from /etc/rsynd.secrets file..from bash it would be something like | ||
| [2010/02/23 09:43:16] <scavara> grep some-puppets-client-username /etc/rsyncd.secrets | awk -F ':' '{print $2} | ||
| [2010/02/23 09:44:21] <scavara> how would i do it 'from' puppet? using generate (), a template, fact? | ||
| [2010/02/23 09:44:57] <scavara> or getting this to work could compromise the security and i should give up and do it manually? | ||
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| [2010/02/23 09:57:20] <RedPepper> scavara, | ||
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| [2010/02/23 09:57:35] <RedPepper> try to give it through a parameter of the definiton | ||
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| [2010/02/23 09:57:55] <RedPepper> or you could try to pass it via a file container of the bucket | ||
| [2010/02/23 09:58:54] <scavara> ok. which one would you prefer? using definition or file bucket? | ||
| [2010/02/23 09:59:11] <RedPepper> i would prefer the definiton | ||
| [2010/02/23 09:59:14] <scavara> ok | ||
| [2010/02/23 09:59:17] <RedPepper> it is easier to handle | ||
| [2010/02/23 09:59:48] <scavara> thank you | ||
| [2010/02/23 09:59:53] <RedPepper> no problem ;) | ||
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| [2010/02/23 10:43:08] <elasticdog> is there a way to test if a class exists? | ||
| [2010/02/23 10:43:35] <elasticdog> I'd like to include myclass::$operatingsystem if it exists, or default to including myclass::common | ||
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| [2010/02/23 10:57:45] <elasticdog> nevermind...going to try this way http://pastie.org/838773 | ||
| [2010/02/23 10:57:59] <elasticdog> then, I can list specific ones after centos if there are other exceptions | ||
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| [2010/02/23 11:03:53] <jb> hrm, where are filebuckets on the clients located? | ||
| [2010/02/23 11:04:34] <jb> nm | ||
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| [2010/02/23 12:26:09] <lilmatt> I've set ca to false in [puppetmaster] as I've used my own CA to create certs, but puppetmasterd is creating a CSR for the same certname. Is there something I need to set to tell puppetmasterd to just use the CA cert, public cert and private key I've given it and not try to generate a request? | ||
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| [2010/02/23 12:34:25] <joe-mac> hmmmt his is a new one | ||
| [2010/02/23 12:34:30] <joe-mac> on one of my openbsd 4.6 machines | ||
| [2010/02/23 12:34:31] <joe-mac> err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: No such file or directory - /var/puppet/client_yaml/catalog | ||
| [2010/02/23 12:34:35] <joe-mac> with .25.4 of puppet | ||
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| [2010/02/23 13:04:48] <elasticdog> can you specify an "exclude" for a specific node if you don't want a particular class? | ||
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| [2010/02/23 13:06:25] <elasticdog> I guess not: http://markmail.org/message/qjk3pi3ov4eoxzsi | ||
| [2010/02/23 13:06:43] <lilmatt> No. You need to make and use a :disable class or something similar | ||
| [2010/02/23 13:07:39] <lilmatt> I've got puppetmasterd now not trying to create a CSR, but webrick doesn't trust my new CA. Any ideas why that doesn't work? | ||
| [2010/02/23 13:08:13] <joe-mac> elasticdog: no you cannot but you can inherit and override resources to be ensure => absent | ||
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| [2010/02/23 13:18:21] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac: I missed some people after me? | ||
| [2010/02/23 13:18:25] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac: do you know what about? | ||
| [2010/02/23 13:18:49] <joe-mac> i forget by now let me check my buffer | ||
| [2010/02/23 13:19:06] <joe-mac> ah it's gone that was at home last night | ||
| [2010/02/23 13:19:12] <joe-mac> i totally forget dude, sorry | ||
| [2010/02/23 13:20:30] <jamesturnbull> nm | ||
| [2010/02/23 13:20:46] <jamesturnbull> I'll see if Avi is about - he texted me | ||
| [2010/02/23 13:23:20] <jamesturnbull> Bevo: pong | ||
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| [2010/02/23 13:42:43] <jmslagle> Hrm! | ||
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| [2010/02/23 13:55:13] <BarnacleBob> when using stomp queing for stored configs, is puppetmaster now talking to only the queue and so no longer needs access to the database or what? i have the db on a seperate machine that my 2 puppet masters talk to. can i just run the puppetqd and the activemq there and open the mq port to the puppet masters and close the db port? | ||
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| [2010/02/23 14:39:04] <lilmatt> Making progress. My puppetmaster's SSL cert can't match its hostname for reasons irrelevant here. I've set http_enable_post_connection_check = false but I still get errors such as err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: hostname not match with the server certificate. Am I setting the wrong thing? | ||
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| [2010/02/23 14:41:13] <BarnacleBob> just set certdnsnames as a : seperated lists of hostnames you use to connect to the puppet master | ||
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| [2010/02/23 14:41:28] <BarnacleBob> then regenerate the puppetmaster certs after setting that (ie remove them and restart the daemon) | ||
| [2010/02/23 14:42:11] <lilmatt> Yeah, that won't work in this situation as the hostname for the puppetmaster can be anything | ||
| [2010/02/23 14:42:40] <lilmatt> It's part of a cloud setup where you want to be able to make n copies of a particular infrastructure | ||
| [2010/02/23 14:43:40] <zahna> there's no way to tell puppet to not care about certain aspects of a resources is there? | ||
| [2010/02/23 14:43:58] <zahna> for instance, i don't care about ownership of a certain directory | ||
| [2010/02/23 14:46:18] <lilmatt> zahna: don't include owner: in the file {} block? | ||
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| [2010/02/23 14:55:06] <BarnacleBob> when using stomp queing for stored configs, is puppetmaster now talking to only the queue and so no longer needs access to the database or what? i have the db on a seperate machine that my 2 puppet masters talk to. can i just run the puppetqd and the activemq there and open the mq port to the puppet masters and close the db port? | ||
| [2010/02/23 14:55:10] <jbooth> lilmatt: Wouldn't a fixed cname work? | ||
| [2010/02/23 14:56:39] <lilmatt> jbooth: There is no local-only DNS infra involved in each environment, so I can't set a cname in one place | ||
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| [2010/02/23 14:57:36] <lilmatt> I fixed it by commenting out http.verify_mode = OpenSSL::SSL::VERIFY_PEER in network/http_pool.rb but that isn't really a good solution. | ||
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| [2010/02/23 14:58:17] <lilmatt> and I would think setting http_enable_post_connection_check to true would need to disable the verify peer check anyway, unless I'm confused as to what it should be used for | ||
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| [2010/02/23 14:59:05] <lilmatt> so I'm wondering if it's actually a bug or not | ||
| [2010/02/23 14:59:11] <hggh> huch. why Gent, Belgium is chosen for puppetcamp? - it has no good railway connection? | ||
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| [2010/02/23 15:01:25] <lilmatt> Who would be best to tell me if that verify peer thing is a bug or not? | ||
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| [2010/02/23 15:03:00] <zahna> lilmatt: nah, that just uses the default value of root in that case | ||
| [2010/02/23 15:03:32] <zahna> hggh: i've heard Gent has some really good pubs | ||
| [2010/02/23 15:04:34] <lilmatt> zahna: I don't follow | ||
| [2010/02/23 15:04:44] <lilmatt> (the default value thing, not the pubs thing ) | ||
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| [2010/02/23 15:10:38] <lilmatt> zahna: Could you explain "just uses the default value of root in that case"? What uses the default value? What root? Which case? | ||
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| [2010/02/23 15:45:25] <Volcane> BarnacleBob: only the write stage of the exported resources are queued - reads are direct to db as always | ||
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| [2010/02/23 15:48:36] <hoangelos> hey I have some puppet client machines that are different OS versions. How do I have rules that change the rules depending on the different versions | ||
| [2010/02/23 15:51:28] <jrojas> hoangelos: look at selectors and facts | ||
| [2010/02/23 15:51:38] <jrojas> $operatingsystemrelease etc etc | ||
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| [2010/02/23 15:59:31] <jbooth> lilmatt: Have your build scripts dump an entry in /etc/hosts. There's /always/ a local-only DNS. | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:00:10] <hoangelos> jrojas: ty | ||
| [2010/02/23 16:01:03] <jrojas> jbooth: or you can use: http://docs.reductivelabs.com/references/stable/type.html#host | ||
| [2010/02/23 16:06:16] <jbooth> jrojas: his problem is getting the certificates happy in the first place for puppet to run, so not so much. | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:12:55] <jrojas> jbooth: ah sounds like a bootstrapping problem | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:14:10] <jbooth> jrojas: yes but not one that puppet can solve given lilmatt's constraints. | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:14:57] <lilmatt> jbooth and jrojas: What I'm trying now is creating my ssl cert with a subjectAltName of DNS:* to see if that will get around the check | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:19:21] <lilmatt> ...and it wont | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:25:56] * nDuff grouses a bit about cobbler's penchant for writing all its repo definitions into a single file and puppet's Yumrepo abstraction writing each section out to a different .repo file not playing well together. | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:26:18] <mpdehaan> nDuff, perhaps don't have your repos cobbler managed? :) | ||
| [2010/02/23 16:26:28] <mpdehaan> I believe there's a flag to not store them on the client | ||
| [2010/02/23 16:26:34] <mpdehaan> and just enable them for mirroring and install time | ||
| [2010/02/23 16:26:37] <nDuff> ...ahh, puppet ticket #2062 | ||
| [2010/02/23 16:26:37] <gepetto> nDuff: ...ahh: #2062 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/2062 "Puppet - Bug #2062: yumrepo resource does not support multiple repos per file - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
| [2010/02/23 16:26:39] <mpdehaan> yum_post_install_mirror IIRC | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:28:01] <nDuff> mpdehaan, ...it's an option, I suppose, but would involve some work; right now we're handling OS-specific repos only through cobbler and product-specific repos only through puppet, so neither component knows about every repo that needs to be installed. | ||
| [2010/02/23 16:28:13] <mpdehaan> disable yum_post_install_mirror | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:28:23] <mpdehaan> and then let puppet deploy out your yum.repos.d | ||
| [2010/02/23 16:28:26] <mpdehaan> I think gets you most of the way | ||
| [2010/02/23 16:28:29] * nDuff is right now tempted to write a quick script that splits out cobbler-config.repo into separate files and then deletes it. | ||
| [2010/02/23 16:28:36] <mpdehaan> yeah | ||
| [2010/02/23 16:28:39] <mpdehaan> ensure absent or something | ||
| [2010/02/23 16:28:44] <mpdehaan> but you could just turn it off :) | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:29:04] <nDuff> mpdehaan, ...most of the way, except that the puppet configuration needs to be amended to know about the OS repos, and that would involve getting the production engineering department's cooperation. | ||
| [2010/02/23 16:29:11] <nDuff> mpdehaan, ...a cheap technical fix is much easier. :) | ||
| [2010/02/23 16:29:14] <mpdehaan> yeah I see that data is not quite shared | ||
| [2010/02/23 16:29:17] <mpdehaan> *nod* | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:38:26] <jbooth> Any devs around? Is there an easy way in a type/provider to say "if this param is set, then this other param must also be set."? Or do I have to write my own using validate? | ||
| [2010/02/23 16:38:48] <BarnacleBob> Volcane, ah so i can use a single qd on the db server but i need both ports open to the masters. thanks | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:46:56] <jrojas> jbooth: try #puppet-dev | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:47:15] <jbooth> oh-ho I didn't know there was such a channel. Noted. | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:47:46] <cwebber> so I asked this question about a week ago and never saw the answer... can a class inherit more than one class ie class a inherits b, c | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:48:15] <kjetilho> cwebber: TIAS | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:48:23] <cwebber> TIAS? | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:48:29] <kjetilho> Try It And See | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:48:58] <cwebber> kjetilho: sounds good | ||
| [2010/02/23 16:49:29] <kjetilho> you'll get a syntax error :) | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:50:51] <cwebber> kjetilho: so i will need an intermediate class then I guess | ||
| [2010/02/23 16:50:55] <cwebber> thanks | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:53:18] <eric0> cwebber: puppet is a lot more geared towards include, not inherit | ||
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| [2010/02/23 16:53:52] <cwebber> eric0: i found a way to do what i want with includes | ||
| [2010/02/23 16:53:55] <kjetilho> but include won't allow you to change the class's resources | ||
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| [2010/02/23 17:00:20] <BarnacleBob> it can if you set a variable before you include | ||
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| [2010/02/23 17:02:18] <kjetilho> very fickle. | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:02:38] <kjetilho> if the class is included multiple times, only variables set at the time of the first include have effect | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:03:28] <Volcane> classes are singletons | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:03:37] <Volcane> so that doesnt seem surprising | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:05:35] <kjetilho> yes. ideally Puppet configuration shuffled can around be | ||
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| [2010/02/23 17:06:02] <Volcane> yeah, a lot of the order dependency weirdness is apparently being improved | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:06:08] <kjetilho> that's sort of a corrollary to the idempotency ideal | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:06:29] <kjetilho> s/ideal/principle/ | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:06:36] <Volcane> totally agree | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:07:21] <kjetilho> I saw some mumblings about class parameters | ||
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| [2010/02/23 17:07:56] <kjetilho> if I understand correctly, that would remove the need for some of the "global variables affect class behaviour" | ||
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| [2010/02/23 17:08:40] <Volcane> yeah though you wouldnt then be able to 'call' the class twice with different sets of param afaik | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:08:49] <Volcane> so you will still have the same basic behavior as now afaik | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:08:54] <Volcane> though not tested out that in the beta | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:09:36] <Volcane> lak: the LVM stuff mentions needing conga or is that just some unintentially included doc and the LVM stuff just need the lv* binaries? | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:10:06] <joe-mac> hey vol | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:10:09] <joe-mac> Volcane: ** | ||
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| [2010/02/23 17:10:20] <joe-mac> uhh actually let me ask you on the infra channel | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:10:21] <Volcane> lo :) | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:10:25] <Volcane> heh | ||
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| [2010/02/23 17:25:43] <lak> Volcane: that's not correct; it must be pulling in the old stuff from ext/ | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:26:14] <Volcane> yeah its ext directory in that github repo, figured its not needed | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:26:32] <lak> yeah, i'll remove it | ||
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| [2010/02/23 17:33:12] <Volcane> stopped building my machines with LVM in the virtual machines so need to hook up something to do testing with first | ||
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| [2010/02/23 17:36:58] <Volcane> yeah i guess stored confs db have the list of classes per node | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:37:00] <Volcane> oops | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:37:22] <barn> Volcane: they're almost the same window (: | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:38:14] <Volcane> heh | ||
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| [2010/02/23 17:41:27] <elasticdog> so can "name =>" be used in place of whatever the namevar happens to be for that resource type? I see a lot of inconsistency in examples interchanging "name" and "path" for files, etc. | ||
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| [2010/02/23 17:50:13] <elasticdog> Volcane: thanks for your modules organization article...I ended up using your idea of setting defaults for the File resource type specifying require/notify | ||
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| [2010/02/23 17:50:34] <Volcane> nice glad it helped | ||
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| [2010/02/23 17:52:37] <elasticdog> Volcane: I didn't go all-out with the different classes, but adapted it to work with multiple OSes | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:53:07] <Volcane> yeah, u should take from it what works for you, there's no "best practise" with puppet that will work for everyone | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:53:19] <wastrel> can you link to the article? | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:53:25] <elasticdog> I figured I didn't mind maintaining the list of Package/Service since there would usually only be one or two maybe | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:53:35] <elasticdog> Volcane: http://pastie.org/839530 is what I ended up with, basically | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:53:38] <Volcane> wastrel: http://www.devco.net/archives/2009/09/28/simple_puppet_module_structure.php | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:53:48] <wastrel> thanks | ||
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| [2010/02/23 17:54:14] <hggh> Volcane: we should put your url to the channel topic :) | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:54:27] <Volcane> heh | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:54:31] <elasticdog> Volcane: granted that example only has one file, but if there were more, it would reduce the duplication | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:54:49] <Volcane> elasticdog: for sure, the defaults thing is very handy | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:54:57] <Volcane> hggh: we seeing you morrow? | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:55:08] <Volcane> oh wait | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:55:16] <Volcane> maybe hggh isnt who i think it is :P | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:55:38] <hggh> ehe. you meen london meeting? | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:56:02] <Volcane> yeah i was thinking you're someone else (but hey, you're welcome to come too :P) | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:56:18] <barn> Volcane: I'm not gonna be about until 8:30, will it be at the pub then? | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:56:20] <hggh> yeah, great. but it's too far away :) | ||
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| [2010/02/23 17:56:32] <Volcane> barn: yeah morrow is all pub | ||
| [2010/02/23 17:57:23] * Volcane hopes the pub is big enough/not busy enough there seems to be a lot of interested ppls | ||
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| [2010/02/23 18:00:01] <hggh> Volcane: ldn is an big city, many devops around there? | ||
| [2010/02/23 18:01:10] <Volcane> seems a lot of interested folk, we dont really want it to be just devops though, general infrastructure ppl etcetc is fine, there's just not any group for big admin people, or people embracing new ways/tech | ||
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| [2010/02/23 19:37:10] <JD_> Volcane: what/when is this meeting? | ||
| [2010/02/23 19:38:35] <JD_> I'm trying to work out a decent scheme for setting up exim4 under debian/ubuntu | ||
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| [2010/02/23 19:38:52] <JD_> I'd like to put "include exim::simple" in my default node | ||
| [2010/02/23 19:39:18] <JD_> and then have "include exim::smarthost" on servers that relay mail | ||
| [2010/02/23 19:39:32] <JD_> simple should install exim4-daemon-light | ||
| [2010/02/23 19:39:44] <JD_> smarthost should install exim4-daemon-heavy | ||
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| [2010/02/23 19:45:12] <nigelk> is anyone doing storeconfigs queuing using something other than activemq ? | ||
| [2010/02/23 19:45:24] <JD_> I'm using stompserver | ||
| [2010/02/23 19:45:36] <JD_> oh wait, no I'm not | ||
| [2010/02/23 19:45:43] <JD_> I couldn't get queuing working | ||
| [2010/02/23 19:45:44] <JD_> sorry | ||
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| [2010/02/23 20:51:49] <jamesturnbull> Djelibeybi: ping | ||
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| [2010/02/23 21:05:31] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull: pong! | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:05:42] <jamesturnbull> Djelibeybi: I don't see an issue with either hosts SMTP serve | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:05:43] <jamesturnbull> r | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:05:52] <jamesturnbull> Djelibeybi: I get FQDNs from redmine and trac | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:06:06] <jamesturnbull> Djelibeybi: who was the insolent rogue who suggested otherwise? :) | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:06:12] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull: ok. The dude who reported the issue isn't here now | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:06:21] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull: LinuxCode | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:06:49] <jamesturnbull> hmmm once upon a time the pastie bot was in here hmmm | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:07:35] <jamesturnbull> Djelibeybi: if oyu see him http://pastie.org/839818 | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:07:59] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull: I'm totally going to forget, but OK! :) | ||
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| [2010/02/23 21:11:51] <Djelibeybi> Narf. /whowas doesn't know about LinuxCode either. | ||
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| [2010/02/23 21:13:31] <jamesturnbull> Djelibeybi: you can leave notes to people in IRC right? | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:14:05] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull: yeah, there is a memoserv here. | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:14:14] <Djelibeybi> I'll leave a message | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:15:10] <Djelibeybi> Hmm.. it's not responding to me. | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:15:17] <Djelibeybi> Ah, there it is | ||
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| [2010/02/23 21:17:18] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull: memo sent. | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:17:33] <jamesturnbull> Djelibeybi: thanks | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:17:44] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull: no worries. | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:17:57] <jamesturnbull> Djelibeybi: come here often? | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:18:17] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull: only in the mating season | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:18:42] <jamesturnbull> Djelibeybi: when exactly do puppets mate? | ||
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| [2010/02/23 21:20:02] <bda> When instructed to by their puppetmaster. | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:20:03] <bda> duh. | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:20:50] <bda> (Now I'm having flashbacks to Crazy John Cusack in Being John Malkovich) | ||
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| [2010/02/23 21:20:58] <jamesturnbull> bda: puppet { "mating": ensure => present, } ? | ||
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| [2010/02/23 21:21:56] <bda> jamesturnbull: oof! | ||
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| [2010/02/23 21:57:06] <hMz> do i still need to explicitly import all my modules in site.pp in 0.24.8? | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:57:51] @ Quit: cwebber: Quit: cwebber | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:59:16] <jamesturnbull> hMz: nope | ||
| [2010/02/23 21:59:24] <jamesturnbull> hMz: just include the ones you use | ||
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| [2010/02/23 22:00:33] <hMz> wait what? | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:00:39] <hMz> so yes i do need to put them all in there? | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:00:53] <jamesturnbull> hMz: no no | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:01:07] <jamesturnbull> hMz: any structually correct module in your modulepath will be autoloaded | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:01:14] <jamesturnbull> hMz: so no need to IMPORT them | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:01:16] <hMz> ahh thats what i wanted to know | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:01:25] <hMz> just import stuff that is not a "real" module | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:01:27] <jamesturnbull> hMz: you then include them - include apache- etc | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:01:43] <jamesturnbull> hMz: correctomondo | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:01:55] <hMz> my config started at 0.22.x so, i never know what is still valid and not :D | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:02:37] <jamesturnbull> hMz: generally it's all headed in a fairly logical direction :) | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:02:57] <hMz> (tm) | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:03:01] <jamesturnbull> lol | ||
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| [2010/02/23 22:03:52] <rodjek> jamesturnbull: can i quote you on that? ;) | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:04:00] <jamesturnbull> rodjek: you can indeed | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:04:16] <jamesturnbull> rodjek: that an $3 gets you a cup of coffee :P | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:04:39] <rodjek> $3? Geez coffee is cheap down there | ||
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| [2010/02/23 22:05:05] <jamesturnbull> rodjek: our money is worth many many of your shiny dollars :) | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:05:15] <hMz> haha | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:05:27] <hMz> you see, when some of us go home, they dont leave the monopoly money on the table | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:05:32] <jamesturnbull> rodjek: though actually I am in your part of the world currently - downtown Portland | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:05:42] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull: I love doing exchange rate math. I'm a multi-millionaire in South Africa. | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:05:58] <jamesturnbull> Djelibeybi: I am worth like 900 million dong in Vietnam | ||
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| [2010/02/23 22:06:08] <hMz> "and thats a lotta dong" | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:06:09] <jamesturnbull> Djelibeybi: yes the currency is called "dong" | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:06:11] <rodjek> jamesturnbull: i'm in sydney :P unless VIC has finally broken away to become it's own country | ||
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| [2010/02/23 22:06:32] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull: hehe hehe hehe </Butthead> | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:06:38] <jamesturnbull> rodjek: oh weird - why does your thing say you're in Corvallis? | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:06:50] * rodjek whoises himself | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:06:51] <jamesturnbull> rodjek: ah I see | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:07:09] <rodjek> server location :) | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:07:24] <jamesturnbull> rodjek: yeah - helps when you read things right :) | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:07:46] * jamesturnbull feels stupid and now is going to find dinner ... :P | ||
| [2010/02/23 22:07:56] <rodjek> haha, have fun :) | ||
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