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| [2010/02/27 07:41:13] <chrisg> i wonder how chaining puppet through two mod_proxy_balancers will be | ||
| [2010/02/27 07:41:31] <chrisg> ie mongrel, fronted by apache balancer, then another apache balancer connectin gto that for hosts on a different network :) | ||
| [2010/02/27 07:41:37] <chrisg> puppet+mongrel | ||
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| [2010/02/27 11:34:11] <chrisg> any of you tried to connect to a puppetmasterd via a squid proxy | ||
| [2010/02/27 11:34:21] <chrisg> not as a reverse proxy to sit in front of mongrel, but just in general | ||
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| [2010/02/27 11:39:16] <RedPepper> you mean as normal internet proxy ? | ||
| [2010/02/27 11:39:33] <RedPepper> should work i havenÄt tested it yet | ||
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| [2010/02/27 11:39:38] <RedPepper> *haven't | ||
| [2010/02/27 11:39:53] <RedPepper> puppet is REST based on top of HTTP | ||
| [2010/02/27 11:40:44] <chrisg> yeah | ||
| [2010/02/27 11:41:25] <chrisg> it's hitting the proxy but i've obviously not quite got the config right | ||
| [2010/02/27 11:41:32] <chrisg> 'cause i'm getting a miss/503 :( | ||
| [2010/02/27 11:43:42] <RedPepper> hmh | ||
| [2010/02/27 11:43:45] <RedPepper> no idea sorry | ||
| [2010/02/27 11:43:50] <RedPepper> haven't tested it yet | ||
| [2010/02/27 11:46:14] <Volcane> puppetd --http_proxy_host=<proxyip> --http_proxy_port=<proxy port> --test | ||
| [2010/02/27 11:46:16] <Volcane> works a charm | ||
| [2010/02/27 11:46:55] <chrisg> hmm | ||
| [2010/02/27 11:48:04] <chrisg> wierd | ||
| [2010/02/27 11:48:14] <chrisg> it'll be something to do with my squid config maybe | ||
| [2010/02/27 11:48:22] <chrisg> but i'm using a standard fairly open config :S | ||
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| [2010/02/27 11:48:41] <Volcane> doesnt allow to connect to any port by default | ||
| [2010/02/27 11:48:56] <chrisg> yeah i added 8140 to the list of ports | ||
| [2010/02/27 11:49:05] <Volcane> you should add 8140 | ||
| [2010/02/27 11:49:13] <Volcane> and should allow https | ||
| [2010/02/27 11:52:41] <chrisg> yea works fine if i say just wget something | ||
| [2010/02/27 11:52:41] <chrisg> :s | ||
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| [2010/02/27 11:53:28] <chrisg> moved httpd's ssl vhost to be on 8140 without puppetmaster running, and i can wget that via the proxy | ||
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| [2010/02/27 13:12:45] <dotNox> Hello | ||
| [2010/02/27 13:12:49] <dotNox> playing with types and providers | ||
| [2010/02/27 13:12:56] <dotNox> I have a custom type: http://pastebin.com/4eRLieGu | ||
| [2010/02/27 13:13:02] <dotNox> and | ||
| [2010/02/27 13:13:04] <dotNox> Crated custom provider: http://pastebin.com/7hh3PXGq | ||
| [2010/02/27 13:13:09] <dotNox> in site.pp I wrote: http://pastebin.com/NLn0mRE7 | ||
| [2010/02/27 13:13:16] <dotNox> As per manual this should work - but it does not | ||
| [2010/02/27 13:13:22] <dotNox> I get error: err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: Invalid parameter 'file' for type 'Mytest' at /etc/puppet/manifests/site.pp:16 on node server | ||
| [2010/02/27 13:13:32] <dotNox> does anyone know how to fix this ? | ||
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| [2010/02/27 14:54:54] <chuck> Hey guys, what is the --server argument of puppetd for when running it on the client? | ||
| [2010/02/27 14:55:02] <chuck> Is that for the name of the current server or the name of the puppetmaster server | ||
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| [2010/02/27 14:58:02] <chuck> I'm getting this weird error and I don't know why: | ||
| [2010/02/27 14:58:02] <chuck> err: Could not run Puppet configuration client: Could not retrieve local facts: uninitialized constant Facter::IPAddress | ||
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| [2010/02/27 14:58:50] <agaffney> chuck: it's to point the client to the puppetmaser | ||
| [2010/02/27 14:58:54] <agaffney> puppetmaster | ||
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| [2010/02/27 15:01:51] <chuck> okay | ||
| [2010/02/27 15:02:00] <chuck> and do you know why that error is showing up? | ||
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| [2010/02/27 15:24:35] <chrisg> thank pete for that, i'm not sure what i broke but i had bared my test puppet client's config quite bad | ||
| [2010/02/27 15:24:53] <chrisg> not sure wher eit came from but there was a broken auth.conf file i think | ||
| [2010/02/27 15:25:17] <chrisg> so now i can do my crazy puppetd->proxy->apache->puppetmasterd | ||
| [2010/02/27 15:25:18] <chrisg> \o/ | ||
| [2010/02/27 15:28:24] <chuck> woot, fixed that error | ||
| [2010/02/27 15:28:37] <chuck> Now this: http://gist.github.com/316934 | ||
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| [2010/02/27 15:38:36] <eric0> might be bad path to CRL | ||
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| [2010/02/27 16:13:07] <joe-mac> could be any number of things chuck what, are you using apache in front of the masters? | ||
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| [2010/02/27 16:33:09] <chuck> joe-mac, Yes, I figured out the problem though, it was time mismatch | ||
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| [2010/02/27 16:34:48] <joe-mac> ahh, yea | ||
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| [2010/02/27 16:38:35] <mrchucho> can /etc/puppet be a symlink? if not, does it have to be owned by root? | ||
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| [2010/02/27 16:40:24] <joe-mac> mrchucho: it cannot be a symlink | ||
| [2010/02/27 16:40:35] <mrchucho> joe-mac: ok, I didn't think so ;) | ||
| [2010/02/27 16:40:37] <joe-mac> it can be owned by whoever, as long as the puppetmaster daemon can read it | ||
| [2010/02/27 16:41:19] <mrchucho> joe-mac: thx | ||
| [2010/02/27 16:41:26] <joe-mac> np | ||
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| [2010/02/27 17:04:47] <fzzzt> I'm getting "Could not find file_metadata for 'modules/puppet/ssl/private_keys/ldap.pem', but the file exists both on the host and master... | ||
| [2010/02/27 17:04:53] <fzzzt> what the cheese? | ||
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| [2010/02/27 17:09:37] <qwebirc66723> is there a pdf version of the docs I can download and print | ||
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| [2010/02/27 17:31:32] <sarah93> wow you should check this http://bit.ly/bFi9I4 | ||
| [2010/02/27 17:31:39] <sarah93> wow you should check this http://bit.ly/bFi9I4 | ||
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| [2010/02/27 19:07:14] <raz> don't bother, it's spam | ||
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| [2010/02/27 19:54:56] <JD_> Volcane: as far as I can tell, a debian developer found what they believed to be a problem, created what they thought was a fix and forwarded it upstream, who then didn't read it until 17 days later | ||
| [2010/02/27 19:56:33] <JD_> now, there doesn't appear to be a debian bug for this, and there's no reference to a bug being filed upstream either | ||
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| [2010/02/27 20:14:34] <JD_> I don't know why they didn't read the mail for 17 days. maybe it was sent to the wrong upstream address, or upstream just didn't read the malbox for ages | ||
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| [2010/02/27 20:15:47] <JD_> a better response would have been to email back saying "no, this is wrong" rather than writing a blog posting going "Debian developers are idiots" | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:17:30] <whack> hastily commiting unvetted patches is bad, though | ||
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| [2010/02/27 20:19:37] <JD_> whack: no one seriously runs unstable on servers | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:20:52] <whack> that's not really a defense of committing an unvetted patch | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:21:01] <JD_> whack: if upstream is unresponsive, do you just leave all patchs uncommitted? | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:21:08] <JD_> patches* | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:21:31] <whack> I would say so, but I'm not a packager. | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:21:38] @ Quit: doubleukay_: Ping timeout: 248 seconds | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:22:00] <JD_> whack: many many upstreams are unresponsive | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:22:35] <whack> right, but think of it another way without a pakcager | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:22:42] <whack> if you wanted a patch commited, and upstream wasn't doing it, you'd fork. | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:22:52] <whack> or you'd sit on the patch | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:23:03] <whack> either way it wouldn't affect the original upstream | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:23:51] <JD_> whack: by that logic, Debian's PHP wouldn't have the suhosin patch applied | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:24:14] <whack> I'd say so, I feel more like it should be called 'php-suhosin' or something like that | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:24:33] <JD_> and no one would install it | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:24:40] <whack> that's unrelated | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:24:45] <whack> now you're installing php that's not actually php | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:24:48] <whack> it's php + massive patches | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:24:51] <whack> which is not php | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:25:31] <whack> for a silly extreme, you could make a patch that turned firefox source into google chrome. Because it was firefox + patch in origin, would you still call it firefox? | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:25:56] <JD_> well debian don't call it firefox, but I dont think that's really your point | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:26:24] <JD_> Look at Redhat. They still call it linux despite being far from a stock kernel | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:26:26] <whack> package maintainers hsould really be committing upstream, imo | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:26:37] <whack> JD_: exactly, and it's really annoying | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:26:55] <whack> my servers have 2.6.18 kernels, but it's really 2.6.18 + 289357293857 patches | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:26:57] <JD_> whack: many upstreams really don't care about distributions | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:27:05] <JD_> or packaging | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:27:20] <whack> that's because some upstreams are stupid :( | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:27:35] <JD_> every distribution patches a lot of packages to deal with upstream stupidity | ||
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| [2010/02/27 20:27:43] <whack> I actually try to push my packagers to not have extra patches with the idea that a patch is generally because something is broken I can fix upstream for them | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:27:58] <JD_> whack: that's a good practice | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:28:05] <JD_> sadly a lot of people don't do that | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:28:07] <whack> yeah :( | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:28:17] <whack> so really it's a culture thing, and you can't blame anyone. Those are the worst :( | ||
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| [2010/02/27 20:29:40] <JD_> but there's no way this is in any way as bad as the openssl bug | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:29:57] <JD_> worst case, this fix makes the code as bad as straight PHP | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:30:18] <whack> especially if the package is called 'php' not 'php-suhosin' | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:30:24] <whack> because there's no expectation of suhosin | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:30:31] <JD_> exactly | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:32:13] <JD_> I think the blog post was chest-beating, when a simple email response would have been a better response and resulted in a better working relationship | ||
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| [2010/02/27 20:34:04] <fzzzt> I'm getting "Could not find file_metadata for 'modules/puppet/ssl/private_keys/ldap.pem', but the file exists both on the host and master... | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:35:39] <JD_> fzzzt: /etc/puppet/modules/puppet/files/ssl/private_keys/ldap.pem? | ||
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| [2010/02/27 20:38:25] <fzzzt> yeah | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:38:31] <fzzzt> /etc/puppet/production/modules/... | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:38:58] <fzzzt> it's working for all the other hosts, so it seems to be ldap in particular | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:39:21] <fzzzt> i've restarted and ran in debug both the client and master and there's nothing leading up to it, just those errors poof into the log | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:40:25] <JD_> check ls -l in /etc/puppet/production/modules/puppet/files/ssl/private_keys/ ? | ||
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| [2010/02/27 20:47:27] <gleb__> What's a good way to get started with Puppet? The "Pulling Strings..." book? Any other definitive HOWTOs? | ||
| [2010/02/27 20:52:57] @ Quit: jab_doa: Quit: Verlassend | ||
| [2010/02/27 21:00:58] <JD_> pulling strings is reasonable if you want to spend money (and make jamesturnbull a little happier) | ||
| [2010/02/27 21:01:18] <JD_> gleb__: the wiki has lots of information on it | ||
| [2010/02/27 21:02:41] <JD_> gleb__: in particular, http://docs.reductivelabs.com/guides/installation.html and http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/SimplestPuppetInstallRecipe | ||
| [2010/02/27 21:03:15] <JD_> gleb__: http://reductivelabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/LanguageTutorial and http://docs.reductivelabs.com/references/stable/type.html are invaluable | ||
| [2010/02/27 21:03:44] <JD_> gleb__: there are a lot of example manifests available to study | ||
| [2010/02/27 21:05:03] <gleb__> JD_: thanks. I went through installation and simple recipe. Will do those as next steps | ||
| [2010/02/27 21:05:36] <JD_> gleb__: so you have puppet up and running and making changes? | ||
| [2010/02/27 21:06:31] <gleb__> JD_: yup | ||
| [2010/02/27 21:06:34] <JD_> from there, just make one small change at a time | ||
| [2010/02/27 21:07:02] <JD_> package, file and service are the simplest resources to use | ||
| [2010/02/27 21:07:40] <gleb__> the LanguageTutorial and type.html look like exactly what I wanted | ||
| [2010/02/27 21:10:12] <JD_> gleb__: one useful thing to get to grips with early on is the relationships that "requires", "notify" and "subscribe" result in | ||
| [2010/02/27 21:11:06] <JD_> read the type reference for more info. they should be under metaparameters | ||
| [2010/02/27 21:11:41] <gleb__> Got it | ||
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