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| [2010/03/07 00:42:23] <nexusone> everytime I do puppetrun, it gives me "Failed to load ruby LDAP library. LDAP functionality will not be available, WTF!!", but it runs fine. I have puppet server 0.24.5-3 here. | ||
| [2010/03/07 00:47:31] <Khazar> It is time to put those Haitian jigaboos in their place! No matter how many times the civilized world donates money, opens schools, rebuilds their nation, and holds their little monkey paws, the damn niggers can never get it right. They never will! The same goes for New Orleans! Cancun in Mexico suffered few fatalities after their major hurricane, and the rebuilding is already completed. Wha | ||
| [2010/03/07 00:47:31] <Khazar> t have the niggers in New Orleans done? If you are sick of this, join Chimpout Forum! http://www.chimpout.com/forum We welcome all races except for NIGGGGGGGERS! We are not white supremacists, just negro inferiorists! http://www.chimpout.com/forum | ||
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| [2010/03/07 12:35:00] <hMz> always quiet on the weekends | ||
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| [2010/03/07 12:37:58] <chrisg> indeed | ||
| [2010/03/07 12:38:05] <chrisg> the puppetmasters just sit there chugging away happily :D | ||
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| [2010/03/07 14:04:01] <tim|imac> quiet is good | ||
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| [2010/03/07 14:34:29] <joe-mac> jamesturnbull: if RL starts hiring again, will we heard through the same avenue, like mailing list etc? | ||
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| [2010/03/07 14:41:51] <chrisg> hmm it may be in the docuemnts but i cant see, is there a way to call config manifests from git directly, like i think you can from svn? | ||
| [2010/03/07 14:42:15] <joe-mac> you mena use git or svn as the protocol for source =>? | ||
| [2010/03/07 14:45:07] <chrisg> yea | ||
| [2010/03/07 14:48:04] <chrisg> like, on module organisation it hints at using pointing the modulepath to something like "svn:file:///Some/SVN/Path" | ||
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| [2010/03/07 15:16:09] <KarlHungus> ok. i'm fishing for ideas here =) puppet manages all of my physical and virtual machines. one of its tasks is to export nagios resources to monitor things. these are then collected on the nagios server and they build the nagios config | ||
| [2010/03/07 15:16:49] <KarlHungus> how do i get puppet to export resources for nagios config items pertaining to switches, SANs, routers, and other netowrk gear that can't run a puppet node, but needs to be monitored? | ||
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| [2010/03/07 15:23:25] <tim|imac> KarlHungus: simply manually define them in a special setup-specific module :) | ||
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| [2010/03/07 15:23:50] <tim|imac> and include that on your nagios host | ||
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| [2010/03/07 15:24:35] <KarlHungus> tim|imac: hehe, manually defining things sounds like no fun | ||
| [2010/03/07 15:25:13] <tim|imac> KarlHungus: well, the other solution is to port ruby to your switches, SANs, routers and other network gear... I'd prefer the manual defining route :P | ||
| [2010/03/07 15:25:30] <tim|imac> you can automate a lot of it by creating defined types for these items, though | ||
| [2010/03/07 15:25:52] <Volcane> KarlHungus: if u have std monitoring for each type of device just wrap that in a define and pass the define an array of nodes | ||
| [2010/03/07 15:25:54] <tim|imac> so you can simply do something like monitor_hp2525 { "192.168.1.4":; } | ||
| [2010/03/07 15:26:06] <Volcane> KarlHungus: or probably easier, define service groups and just pass the hostlist into a service group | ||
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| [2010/03/07 15:26:41] <tim|imac> yeah, that too | ||
| [2010/03/07 15:26:43] <KarlHungus> tim|imac: Volcane: yeah, i understand that, but having to go in and edit puppet each time i stup a new switch is kind of annoying | ||
| [2010/03/07 15:27:35] <KarlHungus> perhaps i could have a class on the puppet master that setup a define_all_switches.pp module using a template that connected to the asset DB and built all the defines for me | ||
| [2010/03/07 15:28:18] <KarlHungus> heh. seems like a hack for doing imperitive tasks in a declarative lang ;) | ||
| [2010/03/07 15:28:24] <tim|imac> that should be doable... or using the extlookup for that and modifying that to query your asset DB | ||
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| [2010/03/07 16:22:34] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac: speak to Luke | ||
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| [2010/03/07 20:09:33] <johnf> is the fqdn supposed to come from facts or the certname by default? | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:10:38] <johnf> or to put it another way how to people identify there hosts? | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:10:47] <johnf> setting --fqdn in /etc/default/puppet | ||
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| [2010/03/07 20:11:02] <johnf> set /etc/hosts and don't manage /etc/hosts in puppet? | ||
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| [2010/03/07 20:21:25] <ohadlevy> morning :) | ||
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| [2010/03/07 20:28:34] <agaffney> johnf: I'd imagine it comes from the output of `hostname --fqdn` | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:29:29] <johnf> agaffney: yes normally from the facts. But default puppetdmaster setup is node_name = cert and according to the description it is supposed to update fqdn, hostname and domain to come from the certname | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:29:38] <johnf> code doesn't look like it does that | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:30:03] <agaffney> umm, and where does the certname come from to begin with? | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:30:05] <blahdeblah> Hi folks, i'm wondering if someone can check over one of my classes and point out the stupid glaring obvious error that i should have picked up an hour ago: http://pastebin.com/0CjTJre8 | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:30:18] <ohadlevy> facter joins the shortname + domainname to fill the fqdn | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:30:39] <agaffney> blahdeblah: what's the problem you're having? | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:30:40] <blahdeblah> The class above gives the error "Configuration could not be instantiated: Could not find dependency Package[dansguardian] for File[/etc/dansguardian/lists/bannedsitelist] at /etc/puppet/modules/dansguardian/manifests/init.pp:30; using cached catalog" | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:30:59] <johnf> agaffney: In this case I'm setting it in on puppetd command line | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:31:16] <blahdeblah> Line 30 is the close of the file definition, and it depends on a package defined by the include in line 8 | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:31:30] <johnf> ohadlevy: that's not what the docs say with regards to node_name | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:31:36] <johnf> I wonder if this has regressed again | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:31:41] <johnf> maybe I'm just doing it wrong | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:31:48] <ohadlevy> johnf: the next version of facter will be fixed | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:31:59] <ohadlevy> johnf: I know as I wrote the patch that fixes it ;) (hopefully) | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:32:08] <johnf> how to others solve the chicken and egg problem? | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:32:15] <johnf> ohadlevy: you know the bug number? | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:32:28] <ohadlevy> there are 3 different bugs relates to it.. hmm.. let me mlook itup | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:32:53] <johnf> I fixed it in puppet back it 0.24 days, knew I should have written a test :) | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:33:58] <ohadlevy> johnf: #2573, #2085 and #1291 | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:33:58] <gepetto> ohadlevy: johnf: #2573 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/2573 "Facter - Bug #2573: fqdn is wrong if nodename is not the first part of fqdn - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:33:59] <gepetto> ohadlevy: johnf: #2085 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/2085 "Facter - Bug #2085: facter determins fqdn in strange and suboptimal ways - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:33:59] <gepetto> ohadlevy: johnf: #1291 is http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/show/1291 "Facter - Bug #1291: Facter is using the NIS domain name instead of DNS domain name in some cases - ReductiveLabs.com" | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:35:25] <blahdeblah> agaffney: Any suggestions? This thing is driving me nuts! I also wanted to use the variables defined on lines 10-13 in the define on lines 20 & 21, but i can't seem to get them into the right scope. | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:35:51] <johnf> ohadlevy: my problem is different, I'm trying to bootstrap /etc/hosts :) | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:36:43] <agaffney> blahdeblah: nothing immediately evident | ||
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| [2010/03/07 20:37:11] <ohadlevy> johnf: hmm.. sorry then ;) i guess I misunderstood the problem, what is it then? :) | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:37:39] <johnf> ohadlevy: so first the general problem rather than my specific one | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:38:04] <johnf> what is the "best practice" for the puppet master knowing what a nodes name is | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:38:06] <johnf> is it | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:38:18] <johnf> a) setting --fqdn blah.com.au on each node | ||
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| [2010/03/07 20:38:32] <johnf> b) managing /etc/hosts manually on each node rather than puppet and depending on that | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:38:38] <johnf> c) something better | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:38:43] <johnf> I've been using a | ||
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| [2010/03/07 20:38:54] <johnf> which worked in 0.24 | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:39:00] <ohadlevy> johnf: I use my provisioning system to ensure the fqdn is correct | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:39:16] <ohadlevy> the way I see it, this is part of puppet pre requirements on a node | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:39:24] <johnf> ohadlevy: ure | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:39:26] <johnf> sure | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:39:34] <johnf> but do you use /etc/hosts or set --fqdn on puppetd? | ||
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| [2010/03/07 20:40:21] <ohadlevy> johnf: I make sure that facter fqdn fact is resolved correctly, then somewhere along the puppet run the /etc/hosts will be changed if required | ||
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| [2010/03/07 20:40:41] <ohadlevy> if I remember correctly, the fqdn is setup correct in etc/hosts at the os installation part | ||
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| [2010/03/07 20:40:58] <johnf> ok cool. I might go with that method I think it will make things easier | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:41:26] <ohadlevy> johnf: do you have ldap/nis clients? | ||
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| [2010/03/07 20:41:42] <johnf> ohadlevy: nope very simple setup here | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:42:06] <ohadlevy> johnf: good, because facter has a bug which uses the ldap/nis domain as a domain name resulting with the wrong certname generated.. | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:42:26] <johnf> yup saw that bug | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:42:40] <johnf> I should still probably file another bug against puppet for the node_name = cert thing though | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:42:47] <johnf> pretty sure that isn't working anymore | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:42:55] <ohadlevy> isnt it certname? | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:43:15] <johnf> yeah I think so | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:43:23] <ohadlevy> so whats not workign there? | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:43:26] <johnf> if you do puppetmasterd --genconfig | less | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:43:31] <johnf> look at the comment above node_name | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:43:41] <johnf> it says that if you are using certname | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:43:54] <johnf> then the fqdn, hostname and domain facts | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:44:02] <johnf> should be replaced by whatever the certname are | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:44:07] <johnf> rather than what came from facter | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:44:23] <johnf> which is what I used to reply on when I was using 0.24.x | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:44:48] <ohadlevy> ah, ok, it seems that a few small things like that slipped into 0.25.x | ||
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| [2010/03/07 20:50:06] <blahdeblah> agaffney: Thanks anyway - i fixed it. The problem is that one node was calling the define without calling the setup classes at the bottom | ||
| [2010/03/07 20:50:16] <blahdeblah> I knew it was going to be something stupid | ||
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