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| [2010/05/30 00:24:33] <blood> finally got it working | ||
| [2010/05/30 00:25:07] <blood> one of the docs i read was completely wrong, found the correct way in a google book =) | ||
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| [2010/05/30 00:25:25] <blood> how do i have file create a dir if it does not exist? | ||
| [2010/05/30 00:30:44] <blood> http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/File_Serving_Configuration has wrong info | ||
| [2010/05/30 00:31:07] <blood> source => "puppet://server/modules/module_name/file" should be source => "puppet://server/module_name/file" | ||
| [2010/05/30 00:32:17] <blood> figured out how to create dir=) | ||
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| [2010/05/30 01:34:16] <blood> anyone alive? =) | ||
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| [2010/05/30 01:38:36] <blkperl> im alive :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 01:39:18] <blkperl> although i don't know how to create a dir if it doesn't exist :( | ||
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| [2010/05/30 01:43:32] <blood> hehe i can show u | ||
| [2010/05/30 01:43:59] <blood> you got the puppet fileserver up? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 01:44:41] <blood> i'm trying to get my puppet client to check server more frequently. according to docs you add runinterval=seconds in puppet.conf | ||
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| [2010/05/30 01:44:46] <blood> but doesn't seem to be working | ||
| [2010/05/30 01:48:29] <joschi> blood: actually it is working pretty fine ;) | ||
| [2010/05/30 01:48:50] <joschi> blood: have you placed it in the correct section ([puppetd]) in your puppet.conf? | ||
| [2010/05/30 01:52:34] <blood> i just realized what was wrong | ||
| [2010/05/30 01:52:45] <blood> my client is on wireless and on reboot it joined another ssid | ||
| [2010/05/30 01:52:46] <blood> go figure | ||
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| [2010/05/30 01:53:16] <blood> to create puppetd logs, i use logdir under [main] right? | ||
| [2010/05/30 01:53:20] <blood> atm i have no logs for my puppetd | ||
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| [2010/05/30 02:12:48] <nawty> anyone using ubuntu 10.04 + puppet (package) + libapache2-mod-passenger (package) with a working config.ru? | ||
| [2010/05/30 02:13:23] <nawty> it'd be puppet 0.25.4, and passenger 2.2.6 | ||
| [2010/05/30 02:15:21] <blood> i got puppet master setup on 10.04 | ||
| [2010/05/30 02:15:30] <blood> not using passenger | ||
| [2010/05/30 02:15:54] <blood> plus i upgraded everything to 0.25.5 | ||
| [2010/05/30 02:19:33] <blood> sweet got my script working on osx when user isn't logged on | ||
| [2010/05/30 02:19:56] <blood> joschi: runinterval works now=) | ||
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| [2010/05/30 02:59:29] <blkperl> for facter is the use of ENV['FOO'] / Enviromental variables frowned upon? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 03:08:36] <blood> i haven't started to use facter variables yet | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:08:40] <blood> only been working with puppet for 2 days | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:09:25] <blood> and already have some good documentation written up for ubuntu | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:11:22] <blkperl> facter variables are awesome :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:11:54] <blood> yup | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:12:03] <blood> it's going to allow me to group my clients the way i want | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:14:19] <ohadlevy> blkperl: yeah, kind of cool :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:14:45] <blkperl> ohadlevy: kind of cool? | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:14:58] <ohadlevy> facts :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:15:11] <ohadlevy> blkperl: make a real nice inventory | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:15:12] <blkperl> :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:15:32] <ohadlevy> and then you can query based on your inventory, so really useful ) | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:16:14] * blkperl has custom windows facts, but doesn't know if the facter devs like enviromental variables | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:16:46] <ohadlevy> yeah you can | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:16:47] <blood> ohadlevy: how would i group clients? can i add my own variable | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:16:57] <ohadlevy> blood: sure you can | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:17:04] <blood> where would i add it | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:17:32] <ohadlevy> blood: wiki:AddingFacts | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:17:37] <blkperl> although ENV['APPDATA'] is the only one that actually notices that the path was redirected | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:17:37] <blood> thanks | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:17:56] <ohadlevy> blood: hmm.. no bot -- http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Adding_Facts | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:18:21] <ohadlevy> blood: and if you use something like Foreman, than you can browse your facts in a web gui and use it to query it (e.g. groups) | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:18:42] <ohadlevy> blkperl: what do you mean? | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:19:58] <ohadlevy> blkperl: try FACTER_xyz=hello facter xyz | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:20:40] <blkperl> i was talking about the RUBY ENV object | ||
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| [2010/05/30 03:22:05] <blood> whats foreman? | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:22:13] * blkperl was thinking facter on windows would be useful if it had userhomedir, userprofile, and user app data, but ENV only correctly the location of appdata | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:22:43] <ohadlevy> blkperl: ah, i missunderstood, in general facter will look in the ENV first if there is a fact called facter_factname | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:22:52] <ohadlevy> blood: theforeman.org | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:26:32] <ohadlevy> blkperl: so you are asking about a way to fetch the homedir in windows? | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:26:36] <blkperl> yes | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:27:03] <blood> wow nice | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:27:08] <blood> foreman is basically a gui for puppet? | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:27:28] <blood> time to install=) | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:27:29] <blood> thanks for tip | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:29:33] <ohadlevy> blood: i'll recommend you to use the nightly snapshot (or via git), as a new release is just around the corner | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:29:52] <joschi> with many new, exciting and amazing features ;) | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:30:16] <blood> i already used git recently | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:30:27] <blood> was able to upgrade puppet easily with it=) | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:30:33] <blood> really? | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:30:38] <blood> 0.25.6? | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:30:48] <ohadlevy> joschi: :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:31:08] <ohadlevy> joschi: on which versions of debian did you give it a try? (just updating the wiki) | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:31:18] <blkperl> ohadlevy: so facter uses ENV['PATH'] to grab the path on all operating systems, could i add a windows.rb that uses ENV to grab APPDATA, HOMEDIR, and USERPROFILE | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:31:40] <ohadlevy> joschi: I guess I need to update the screenshots too | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:31:58] <blood> puppet works with windows as well? | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:32:05] <ohadlevy> blood: no - just facter | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:32:08] <blood> ah k | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:32:15] <ohadlevy> or not yet : | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:32:15] <ohadlevy> :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:32:31] <blkperl> blood: and like half the facts havn't been implemented yet either | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:33:25] <joschi> ohadlevy: debian lenny, ubuntu 9.10 and ubuntu 10.04 | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:33:43] <ohadlevy> joschi: thanks, I got my slug built via foreman too ;) | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:37:22] <blkperl> ohadlevy: http://pastie.org/984021 | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:37:47] <ohadlevy> blkperl: looking food | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:38:54] <blkperl> should each one have its own file? or just one file called windows.rb, (theres already a macosx.rb file) | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:42:05] <blkperl> ohadlevy: thanks for the help i think i'm going to ask the mailing list :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:45:28] <ohadlevy> blkperl: i didnt check, but maybe there are some guidelines in the wiki | ||
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| [2010/05/30 03:47:21] <ohadlevy> joschi: did I ask you for your feedback about the package inventory support? | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:47:26] <blkperl> there is a guidline page but i don't think it mentions it :( | ||
| [2010/05/30 03:56:48] <joschi> ohadlevy: yes you did, but I didn't have time to install & test it yet | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:07:37] <blood> where can i find the new features upcoming for next puppet release? | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:09:03] <joschi> blood: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/roadmap | ||
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| [2010/05/30 04:12:01] <joschi> is there any best practice for creating/managing /etc/network/interfaces (debian, ubuntu) containing more than one interface definition with puppet? | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:12:08] <joschi> besides using the concat module? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 04:13:53] <blkperl> joschi: well im working on a network type for GSOC but i just started :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:14:26] <joschi> blkperl: yes, I've seen that one. but I need it right now[tm], as always ;) | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:15:03] <ohadlevy> joschi: why not the contact module? | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:15:25] <blkperl> joschi: :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:15:43] <blood> wow real nice, puppet knows if a file is different and writes the changes | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:16:01] <blood> i read some old docs where it used to not be this way | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:16:44] <blood> going to setup fortran tomorrow | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:16:47] <blood> err | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:16:49] <blood> foreman lol | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:16:51] <blood> wow im tired | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:17:01] <ohadlevy> blood - its a oneliner ;) | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:17:14] <blood> sudo apt-get install foreman i assume lol | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:17:28] <blood> i meant the configuration | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:17:34] <blood> unless that is easy too | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:17:39] <ohadlevy> blood: hmm.. thats true for redhat hosts - but no need :) see http://github.com/ohadlevy/puppet-foreman | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:17:47] <blood> ah nice | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:17:50] <blood> so use git | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:17:50] <blood> k | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:17:58] <ohadlevy> blood: it uses puppet to configure itself | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:18:05] <blood> real nice | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:18:14] <blood> so basically this is a gui for facter inventory? | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:18:33] <blood> i guess ill find out=) | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:18:48] <ohadlevy> blood: not only, also for reports, kickstart/preseed and many others - see http://theforeman.org/projects/foreman/wiki/Features | ||
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| [2010/05/30 04:20:59] <blood> any other guis besides foreman/dashboard? | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:21:54] <ohadlevy> blood: not that I'm aware of | ||
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| [2010/05/30 04:31:25] <joschi> ohadlevy: the concat module is working fine but I don't find it very elegant. would be nice if puppet supported nested hashes instead of only arrays ;) | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:31:47] <joschi> ohadlevy: using the concat module for building the interfaces file, that is... | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:34:00] <ohadlevy> joschi: well.. .we'll have to wait to 2.6 | ||
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| [2010/05/30 04:34:11] <ohadlevy> and then I'll probably use the ruby dsl | ||
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| [2010/05/30 04:41:15] <blood> finally got my osx software update script working perfectly | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:41:18] <blood> time for sleep | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:41:20] <blood> thanks again guys for help | ||
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| [2010/05/30 04:50:06] * blkperl didn't realize ENV had some much useful information | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:50:41] * blkperl plots to transfer it most of it to facter :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:51:10] <ohadlevy> blkperl: note that ENV is tricky, maybe different if you use it as a service / daemon | ||
| [2010/05/30 04:52:28] <blkperl> tricky in what way? besides not being the same on all operating systems | ||
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| [2010/05/30 07:06:07] <ohadlevy> blkperl: i just meant that things you get while on a shell (cmd) might not be the same if you run them as a service | ||
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| [2010/05/30 08:41:26] <davea1> I am having a problem with a client and the ssl setup- I have removed and resintalled the client but I can never get it to work right | ||
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| [2010/05/30 08:42:18] <davea1> the message I get in debugmode on the client is: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: hostname not match with the server certificate | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:42:30] <davea1> I have recreated the cert 3 times | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:42:47] <davea1> uninstalled and reinstalled the puppet client on this machine | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:42:51] <davea1> still no joy | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:42:53] <davea1> ;( | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:43:37] <Volcane> are you running it with --server or server= in the config? | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:45:02] <davea1> yes | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:45:19] <davea1> wait one | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:45:31] <Volcane> you should just make it talk to 'puppet' | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:45:56] <davea1> aha! | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:46:12] <davea1> I have the puppet server in /etc/sysconfig/puppet | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:46:22] <davea1> but that is only used when running in daemon mode | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:46:32] <davea1> I was doing one-shot for debugging | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:46:37] <Volcane> yes, its a bad idea to configure it there | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:46:45] <kenneho> Hi all. I have a quick question about the Puppet Dashboard bug tracker. If I add a comment to a ticket that has status "Need more information", will the bug tracker tool automatically notify someone at puppet labs about the ticket update, or will I have to to this manually myself? | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:46:46] <davea1> without the --server | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:46:56] <Volcane> davea1: just put server=foo in puppet.conf | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:47:13] <davea1> Volcane, gotcha! Thanks! | ||
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| [2010/05/30 08:49:20] <Volcane> kenneho: it will notify them | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:50:15] <kenneho> volcane: Ok, so if the ticket remains in status "Need more information", this is because the guys at puppet labs just haven't reviewed the update yet? | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:50:38] <Volcane> kenneho: if there's no comment after yours then i yes | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:51:20] <kenneho> volcane: Thanks. | ||
| [2010/05/30 08:59:22] <ohadlevy> Volcane: did you go to puppetcamp? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 10:43:50] <blood> ohadlevy: u around? i'm trying to install foreman on ubuntu | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:44:02] <ohadlevy> blood: yep? | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:44:10] <blood> how do i go about installing it? i downloaded the tar | ||
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| [2010/05/30 10:44:57] <ohadlevy> blood: you can use puppet to set it up, or follow the instructions in the wiki | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:45:08] <blood> am, not working | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:45:13] <ohadlevy> which part? | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:45:20] <blood> echo include foreman | puppet --verbose --modulepath /path_to/tarball | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:45:23] <blood> errors out | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:45:32] <ohadlevy> with what? :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:45:35] <blood> sec | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:46:21] <blood> could not retrieve fact fqdn | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:46:32] <blood> could not find class foreman for ubuntu | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:46:54] <blood> could not find class foreman at line 1 on node ubuntu | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:46:56] <blood> those 3 | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:47:07] <ohadlevy> blood: hmm... that doesnt make a lot of sense.. did you run puppetd or puppet? | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:47:31] <blood> this gets installed on clients only? | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:48:10] <ohadlevy> no, this sets up foreman itself, not the clients | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:48:15] <blood> k | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:48:33] <ohadlevy> you can use it with puppetd as a normal module, or with puppet as a standalone setup | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:48:53] <blood> if i use it with puppetd, i can add it to the puppet.conf? | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:49:39] <blood> ok i ran it with puppetd this time, no error | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:49:42] <ohadlevy> blood: i'm not sure I follow, puppetd is the puppet daemon, puppet binary is a standalone puppet (which doesnt require anything besides the modules to run) | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:51:14] <ohadlevy> blood: does it work now? | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:51:18] <blood> echo include foreman | puppetd --verbose --modulepath /path_to/tarball gave no error | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:51:24] <blood> not sure what to do next | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:51:32] <ohadlevy> blood: you should run: | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:51:44] <ohadlevy> cho include foreman | puppet --verbose --modulepath /path_... | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:51:46] <ohadlevy> not puppetd | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:51:56] <ohadlevy> /scho/echo | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:52:05] <blood> let me try | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:52:39] <ohadlevy> blood: btw: I'll recommend you to use the latest develop version | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:52:48] <ohadlevy> which should be a simple change in your manifest to use | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:53:31] <blood> i'm using 0.25.5 | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:53:41] <ohadlevy> blood: i mean foreman develop version | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:53:44] <blood> ah ok | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:54:03] <blood> i'll try that then | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:54:12] <ohadlevy> i've update the repo, can you fetch the tar again? | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:54:40] <ohadlevy> blood: http://github.com/ohadlevy/puppet-foreman/tarball/master | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:55:17] <blood> ok i got the old stuff working | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:55:21] <blood> but i had error | ||
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| [2010/05/30 10:55:30] <blood> it autoloads stuff then gives this error | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:56:00] <blood> parameter user failed: only root can execute commands | ||
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| [2010/05/30 10:56:19] <ohadlevy> blood: yeah, you need to run it as root, or with sudo | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:56:23] <blood> did | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:56:41] <ohadlevy> blood: can you pastie the entire error message? | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:56:49] <blood> sure if i could copy this damn text from the VM | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:56:54] <ohadlevy> :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:56:56] <blood> let me log in as root and try again | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:57:03] <ohadlevy> ok | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:57:45] <blood> it's fine to have foreman package in /tmp right? | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:58:24] <ohadlevy> which package? | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:58:29] <blood> the tarball | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:58:30] <ohadlevy> the tar ? | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:58:32] <ohadlevy> sure | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:58:32] <blood> yea | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:58:33] <blood> k | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:58:39] <ohadlevy> its just puppet manifests | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:58:41] <blood> ok with sudo i got error but when i logged in with root | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:58:43] <blood> it worked | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:58:49] <blood> except i get a new error now=) | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:58:52] <ohadlevy> you need to echo ... | sudo puppet :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:59:14] <blood> failed to call refresh Exec[db_migrate] | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:59:30] <blood> rake db migrate returned 1 instead of 0 | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:59:34] <ohadlevy> blood: yeah, I just fixed that now - fetch the tar again (I've updated it) | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:59:37] <blood> k | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:59:39] <ohadlevy> and rm -rf /usr/share/foreman | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:59:42] <ohadlevy> and try again :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 10:59:44] <blood> ok | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:00:37] <ohadlevy> blood: is that your machine is your puppetmaster too? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:02:14] <blood> same error | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:02:14] <blood> yes | ||
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| [2010/05/30 11:02:31] <ohadlevy> do you have rubygems installed? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:02:41] <blood> yea | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:02:52] <ohadlevy> did it try to install some packages? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:02:56] <blood> let me check | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:03:29] <ohadlevy> you should see it in the puppet output | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:04:34] <ohadlevy> what I've just added to the tar was to install the rack gem, so if you dont have it thats probably the reason it fails | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:05:02] <blood> it gets stuff from tftp | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:05:16] <blood> starts executing a bunch of stuff | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:05:20] <blood> which are all successful | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:05:36] <ohadlevy> anything fails? any packages? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:05:49] <blood> install_from_source.pp:43 | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:05:50] <blood> that line | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:06:03] <blood> db migrate returned 1 instead of 0 | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:06:13] <blood> thats the only error i get in entire process | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:06:15] <ohadlevy> ok, lets try and see why :) cd /usr/share/foreman | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:06:18] <blood> k | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:06:28] <ohadlevy> export RAILS_ENV=production | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:06:30] <ohadlevy> rake db:migrate | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:06:35] <ohadlevy> should give you the error | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:06:44] <blood> sec | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:07:15] <blood> cant convert nil into string | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:07:33] <ohadlevy> rake db:migrate --trace ? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:08:08] <blood> bunch of stuff poppetd up | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:08:11] <blood> popped up | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:08:16] <ohadlevy> can you pastie it? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:08:26] <blood> i wish if vmware tools wasnt broken in ubuntu 10.04 | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:08:30] <blood> i need to get it fixed | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:08:36] <ohadlevy> or just the first couple of lines | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:08:51] <blood> ok here is the last line before the nil error | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:09:19] <blood> add_column(:hosts, :owner_type, :string) | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:09:22] <blood> it doesnt like that line | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:09:34] <blood> cant convert nil to string | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:09:37] <ohadlevy> let me see | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:09:39] <ohadlevy> one sce | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:09:40] <ohadlevy> sec | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:10:53] <ohadlevy> does it say a line number ? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:11:04] <ohadlevy> i guess its in the add_owners_to_hosts file | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:11:06] <blood> ok with trace, the last line is | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:11:18] <blood> ./usr/bin/rake:28 | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:11:26] <blood> err | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:11:29] <blood> let me go back a few lines | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:11:49] <blood> rake.rb:1998 in 'run' | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:11:59] <ohadlevy> does facter domain gives out any output on your machine? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:12:24] <blood> ok databases.rake:116 | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:12:48] <blood> let me check | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:13:07] <blood> nope | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:13:26] <ohadlevy> ok, that explains it :), lets try to workaround it, edit config/settings.yaml | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:13:54] <blood> yea this is a test machine, i have everything in my local hosts=) | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:13:57] <blood> k | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:13:58] <blood> sec | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:13:58] <ohadlevy> and have a line like this: (including the leading ':') | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:14:46] <ohadlevy> :administrator: your@email | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:15:33] <blood> done | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:15:36] <blood> try again? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:15:46] <ohadlevy> yes | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:16:15] <blood> worked | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:16:34] <ohadlevy> ok ;) | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:16:44] <blood> so what caused that? not being on a domain? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:17:05] <ohadlevy> it tries to auto assign a default user to the hosts, so if you want foreman to send you email notifications, it will know where to | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:17:13] <ohadlevy> it defaults to root@domain if no users are defined | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:17:15] <blood> ah | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:17:28] <ohadlevy> i guess I should add something that skips it if no domain is defined :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:17:31] <blood> which fails since i'm not on a domain hehe | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:17:48] <ohadlevy> blood: thanks for troubleshooting :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:17:50] <blood> ok so now whats next step? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:17:51] <blood> np | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:18:25] <ohadlevy> ./script/server -e production | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:18:41] <blood> i have dashboard running as well, this uses same port right? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:18:45] <blood> i'll need to change it | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:18:46] <ohadlevy> yeah, so just do | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:18:53] <ohadlevy> ./script/server -e production - p 4000 | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:18:55] <blood> k | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:19:15] <ohadlevy> but you might need to change a couple of importrs | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:19:22] <ohadlevy> e.g. | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:19:39] <blood> do i need dashboard if i use this? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:19:53] <ohadlevy> <no comment> | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:19:56] <blood> hehe | ||
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| [2010/05/30 11:20:11] <ohadlevy> edit /etc/puppet/push_facts.rb file | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:20:15] <ohadlevy> to update the port | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:20:34] <ohadlevy> there is a url line | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:20:47] <ohadlevy> should probably be changed to "http://localhost:4000" | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:20:56] <blood> i'm just going to use this over dashboard | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:20:58] <blood> seems better | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:21:35] <ohadlevy> do you see your hosts already? :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:21:44] <blood> nope | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:21:54] <blood> let me run it on port 3000 now | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:22:25] <blood> i setup my client to send reports to the puppet dashboard | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:22:31] <blood> how do i set it to send to foreman now? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:22:50] <ohadlevy> how did you configure the reporting? in puppet.conf? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:22:56] <blood> yea | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:23:05] <blood> report=puppet_dashboard i believe , let me check | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:23:30] <ohadlevy> ok, so you need to add/change this to foreman | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:23:46] <blood> nope just did report=true | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:24:09] <ohadlevy> report=true is on the client, on the puppetmaster you need to have reports= | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:24:11] <blood> on puppet master i did this | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:24:11] <blood> [puppetmasterd] | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:24:12] <blood> reports=puppet_dashboard | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:24:20] <blood> so change that to foreman? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:24:22] <ohadlevy> so you can add/change it to reports=foreman | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:24:24] <ohadlevy> yep | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:24:29] <blood> ok | ||
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| [2010/05/30 11:24:40] <ohadlevy> but you need to update the urls a bit | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:24:46] <ohadlevy> can you go to the place you had the tarball? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:24:50] <blood> sure sec | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:24:56] <ohadlevy> goto foreman/files | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:24:57] <blood> ok there | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:24:59] <ohadlevy> there are 3 files in there | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:25:25] <ohadlevy> just edit each one of them, and put the right url | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:25:31] <ohadlevy> e.g. http://localhost:3000 | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:25:33] <ohadlevy> or whatever | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:25:52] <blood> k | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:26:00] <ohadlevy> than run the puppet command again | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:26:06] <ohadlevy> it will update the files in your system | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:26:40] <blood> now that i think about it, i could of just added foreman to my hosts file | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:26:41] <blood> o well | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:26:47] <blood> ok let me run command agian | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:26:48] <ohadlevy> :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:28:09] <blood> ok restart puppetmasterd now'? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:28:22] <ohadlevy> yep | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:28:47] <ohadlevy> if you have the server running, hopefully you can already see your hosts by now | ||
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| [2010/05/30 11:30:17] <blood> hrmm page cant be displayed | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:30:22] <blood> let me check something | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:31:35] <blood> We're sorry, but something went wrong. | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:31:35] <blood> We've been notified about this issue and we'll take a look at it shortly. | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:31:37] <blood> lol | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:33:37] <blood> i think i added the wrong url in one of those files | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:33:55] <ohadlevy> do see any error message ? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:34:03] <ohadlevy> on the server console?? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 11:38:33] <blood> where can i check log | ||
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| [2010/05/30 11:38:54] <ohadlevy> blood: either on the console you started script/server or in /usr/share/foreman/log/production | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:39:58] <blood> fixed it | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:40:08] <blood> problem was, i only changed 1 entry in each of those rb files | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:40:12] <blood> but there seems to be other spots | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:40:20] <ohadlevy> in which file? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:40:25] <blood> let me check | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:40:33] <blood> but basically once i kept foreman and added it to hosts, it worked | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:40:35] <blood> let me check now | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:41:40] <blood> ok i know what happened | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:41:50] <blood> push_facts.rb i added foreman:3000 | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:41:56] <blood> when it should of been just foreman | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:42:02] <blood> not sure why but it works this way | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:42:10] <ohadlevy> hm.. that should not fail the server | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:42:15] <ohadlevy> hmm.. and I think you need the 3000 | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:42:17] <blood> let me add it back to 3000 | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:42:42] <ohadlevy> brb | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:44:44] <blood> works now, there is something using foreman though | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:44:52] <blood> when you run the echo include foreman command | ||
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| [2010/05/30 11:45:12] <blood> so not sure what scripts that calls but i see ://foreman in there when i changed it in those 3 files | ||
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| [2010/05/30 11:49:14] <ohadlevy> so do you finally see some data ?:) | ||
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| [2010/05/30 11:56:24] <nawty> anyone using ubuntu 10.04 + puppet (package) + libapache2-mod-passenger (package) with a working config.ru? | ||
| [2010/05/30 11:56:26] <nawty> it'd be puppet 0.25.4, and passenger 2.2.6 | ||
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| [2010/05/30 11:58:14] <ohadlevy> blood: any luck? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 12:04:07] <ohadlevy> nawty: do you get any error? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 12:07:38] <nawty> it seems that passenger is burping: Could not prepare for execution: Got 1 failure(s) while initializing: change from absent to file failed: Could not set file on ensure: Permission denied - /var/log/puppet/masterhttp.log | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:08:03] <ohadlevy> whos the owner of config.nu? | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:08:40] <nawty> root, but w:r | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:09:01] <nawty> and in frustration, i set 777 on the masterhttp.log | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:09:03] <hacim> you want it to be owned by the user running the application | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:09:23] <hacim> nawty: the newer puppet package in debian sorts all of this out | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:10:23] <nawty> hacim: by the look of things the passenger process(es) are all running as root | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:10:43] <blood> back | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:10:43] <nawty> hacim: is there any easy way I can find out who the owner user would be ? | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:10:48] <blood> ohadlevy: yes my client showed up | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:11:17] <blood> i can see all the facts | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:11:18] <blood> etc | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:11:30] <hacim> nawty: it should be puppet:puppet | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:12:08] <blood> thanks for the help ohadlevy=) | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:12:24] <hacim> nawty: have you followed the instructions on the wiki for puppet+passenger? | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:12:47] <nawty> hacim: yes, although I suppose I may have missed something if it's not working :P | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:13:03] <nawty> hacim: also, now it's 'seemingly' working, but burps at : The environment must be purely alphanumeric, not '' | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:13:39] <hacim> what is your environment set to? | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:14:13] <blood> pretty nice, i can see the logs each client has with puppetmaster | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:15:08] <hacim> blood: using foreman? | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:15:56] <nawty> ah, i just found the line I missed (chown puppet) | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:16:13] <ohadlevy> blood: great, next step is to use it to manage your classes | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:16:26] <nawty> hacim: at the moment I'm not directly specifying it. | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:17:39] <ohadlevy> blood: you might want to look at http://theforeman.org/projects/foreman/wiki/Howtos | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:18:43] <nawty> ohadlevy: any specific one? | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:19:02] <ohadlevy> nawty: for what? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 12:19:24] <nawty> ohadlevy: sorry, it's early, and I s/blood/nawty/g | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:19:45] <ohadlevy> nawty: check your syslog, you might find some more info there | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:22:51] <nawty> ohadlevy: not much. | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:23:16] <nawty> ohadlevy: http://pastebin.com/rsyHqjv1 | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:24:18] <ohadlevy> nawty: sounds like permissions problems to resolve your ip | ||
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| [2010/05/30 12:24:31] <ohadlevy> and or namespace.conf settings (if you have any) | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:24:44] <ohadlevy> anyway, I'm off now - cya | ||
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| [2010/05/30 12:28:28] <Volcane> ohadlevy: yeah | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:28:32] <Volcane> ohadlevy: was good | ||
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| [2010/05/30 12:40:27] <blood> hacim: yes | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:40:33] <blood> hacim: just set it up | ||
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| [2010/05/30 12:48:32] <blood> nice had no idea about storeconfigs | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:48:41] <blood> nice feature=) | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:48:51] <blood> i need to enable it | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:49:57] <blood> ah reading that it will slow puppet down | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:50:04] <blood> is this still true with latest version? | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:50:56] <Volcane> it does _lots_ of database work | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:51:01] <hacim> i dont know if 'slow puppet' down is really that much of a discouraging criteria, if you benefit from what it gets you | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:51:29] <hacim> the 'slow down' may be reasonable trade-off | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:51:36] <nawty> ohadlevy: it doesn't actually 'fail' with that error, it still carry's on working, it's just annoying ;) | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:51:38] <blood> well if it allows me to see all my client configs, i think its a good trade off | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:51:52] <blood> since it will help for troubleshooting | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:51:57] <hacim> its not like a huge slow-down, just cuts off the top of the scaling | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:52:04] <blood> gotcha | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:52:24] <blood> need to add this to my puppet ubuntu config then i'll continue to setup more features | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:52:32] <blood> puppet ubuntu documentation i mean | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:52:50] <blood> so i dont forget next time i set all this up | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:53:04] <hacim> ie. if you are running puppetmaster on a particular server with X resources, you are going to be able to serve Y puppet clients (which is going to be a function of the complexity of their manifests), but it might be reduced to Z clients with storedconfigs | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:53:52] <hacim> and the difference between Y and Z is sort of unknown | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:53:54] <blood> well if i put this into production , it will be for roughly 350 mac clients | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:54:26] <hacim> you will have to deal with scaling with or without storedconfigs then | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:55:11] <blood> i guess i wont really need storedconfigs since all my clients *should* have the same exact config | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:55:27] <blood> the clients are in a lab environment for students | ||
| [2010/05/30 12:56:19] <blood> and i will be rolling out a thin image to all of them | ||
| [2010/05/30 13:02:45] <blood> just got a puppet book, hopefully it will help me get a better hand on stuff=) | ||
| [2010/05/30 13:10:52] <blood> "Pulling Strings With Puppet", good book to start | ||
| [2010/05/30 13:10:52] <blood> ? | ||
| [2010/05/30 13:11:20] <kjetilho> yes, but it's a bit outdated. | ||
| [2010/05/30 13:11:26] <kjetilho> the concepts are still valid, though | ||
| [2010/05/30 13:11:28] <blood> whats the latest book? | ||
| [2010/05/30 13:12:13] <kjetilho> I don't know of any others | ||
| [2010/05/30 13:13:11] <blood> yea just checked, thats the only one i see | ||
| [2010/05/30 13:19:42] <blood> jeff mccune in this channel? anyone know what nick he uses? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 14:03:28] <blood> is there a munki type for puppet? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 14:17:22] <hacim> i have never heard of munki | ||
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| [2010/05/30 14:45:12] <blood> sec | ||
| [2010/05/30 14:45:21] <blood> http://code.google.com/p/munki/ | ||
| [2010/05/30 14:53:49] <blood> looks like i may use this with puppet | ||
| [2010/05/30 14:54:14] <blood> munki is strictly for managing osx software installations | ||
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| [2010/05/30 15:15:30] <Tonnerre> Is there a way to have Puppet defines in LDAP? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 15:28:23] <agaffney> Tonnerre: you can have node information in ldap | ||
| [2010/05/30 15:32:23] <Tonnerre> agaffney, yes, class includes and variables | ||
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| [2010/05/30 15:38:04] <Tonnerre> agaffney, but what about defines? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 16:20:35] <Volcane> Tonnerre: no | ||
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| [2010/05/30 16:30:48] <nico> is it planned to publish puppetcamp slides for the infortunate ones who couldn't attend ? | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:31:25] <nico> blood: create a new provider then | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:31:42] <Tonnerre> Volcane, is this by intention? | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:31:51] <Volcane> Tonnerre: yes | ||
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| [2010/05/30 16:32:08] <Tonnerre> Volcane, what's the intention? | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:32:08] <Volcane> Tonnerre: you can though file a feature request | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:32:23] <nico> code has nothing to do in the classification tool (to me) | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:32:43] <Tonnerre> Defines aren't necessarily code | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:33:17] <Volcane> resource creation doesnt belong there | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:33:23] <nico> Tonnerre: you mean when they're only aggregation of classes ? | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:33:58] <Tonnerre> I mean things like apache_vhost("www.blah.ch") | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:34:23] <Volcane> Tonnerre: you'd put that in a class so you can easily move the exact resource between nodes surely | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:34:45] <Tonnerre> Volcane, but that means I have to edit files | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:34:47] <nico> +1, I don't want to to be outside a class | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:35:04] <Volcane> Tonnerre: if you dont want to edit files, perhaps give microsoft a call? | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:35:13] <nico> Tonnerre: you could also rely on an external data tool | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:35:22] <Tonnerre> nico, how so? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 16:35:50] <Volcane> $websites = extlookup("websites") | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:35:53] <Volcane> include websites | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:35:54] <nico> through a function that will lookup what data needs to be used by your class ? | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:36:03] <Tonnerre> Volcane, if the details aren't managed manually, Microsoft would not like to help me, nor would I want to edit files | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:36:05] <nico> exactly like this | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:36:11] <Volcane> class website { apache::vhost{$websites: } ] | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:36:15] <Volcane> s/]/} | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:36:20] <Tonnerre> Hmmm ok | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:37:05] <nico> Volcane's extlookup reads CSV but you can easily (~10 minutes I'd say) add another source of data | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:37:17] <Volcane> problem comes when you want to make slight mods to some vhost | ||
| [2010/05/30 16:38:13] <nico> that's where cleverness is needed | ||
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| [2010/05/30 16:38:30] <Tonnerre> I guess I'll find a way to pull that data out of ldap | ||
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| [2010/05/30 17:03:24] <blood> nico: i would if i knew how=) | ||
| [2010/05/30 17:03:34] <blood> got to do some reading | ||
| [2010/05/30 17:03:41] <blood> currently messing with munki | ||
| [2010/05/30 17:03:44] <blood> docs are very vague | ||
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| [2010/05/30 18:19:43] <davea1> I am setting up mysql-zrm for backups | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:20:12] <ashp> it's sunday, you don't want to do that :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:20:23] <davea1> with one server as the backup server and the other as the mysql db server(zrm client) | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:20:32] <davea1> ashp, :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:21:24] <davea1> is it possible to configure puppet to create the configs for both servers- on the client, I have to create a backup user- on the zrm server, I have to create a config file | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:22:33] <davea1> from a single setup- that is, when I add my zrm_client class to the client server, the backup server gets its setup as well? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 18:24:09] <davea1> I know that I can create both by creating the separate classes and poking in the correct values. But I thought maybe there was some better way to accomplish this | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:24:51] <davea1> ashp, I wish I didnt have to work today ;) | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:24:59] <tuvwx> i'm trying to document the steps i just automated using puppet. boy are they too many! | ||
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| [2010/05/30 18:27:53] <ken_barber> tuvwx: lol. it does grow once you start relying on it doesn't it :-). | ||
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| [2010/05/30 18:28:32] <tuvwx> ken_barber: grow?! it's a freaking genetic mutation | ||
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| [2010/05/30 18:28:41] <matti> Meh. | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:28:55] <matti> Documentation is for whimps. | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:28:57] <matti> ;] | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:29:24] <ken_barber> tuvwx: are you documenting it in your puppetdocs? | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:29:27] <tuvwx> documentation dictates the life span of your product | ||
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| [2010/05/30 18:30:04] <tuvwx> ken_barber: what is puppetdocs? i'm handwriting an org-mode bullet-form document | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:30:20] <matti> One can't make a joke nowadays... ;/ | ||
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| [2010/05/30 18:31:35] <ken_barber> tuvwx: its a way of documenting your puppet code in comments in your code, and generating html output | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:31:45] <ken_barber> hang on - let me find a link for you | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:32:47] <ken_barber> http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Puppet_Manifest_Documentation | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:33:51] <ken_barber> I have a tool that pulls down my puppet code from git and producing the html output regularly ... saves me having to keep the docs separately. | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:35:44] <tuvwx> ken_barber: got a link for a sample output | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:36:01] <ken_barber> hmm - let me find it | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:37:06] <ken_barber> tuvwx: http://puppet.bob.sh/puppetdoc/api/ | ||
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| [2010/05/30 18:37:43] <ken_barber> tuvwx: that link is not recent though. my automated script is for a company I work for. | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:38:09] <ken_barber> tuvwx: but good enough for a sample :-). | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:38:36] <ken_barber> tuvwx: the source for that is at http://code.bob.sh/hg/bpl/ | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:38:38] <tuvwx> ken_barber: that does not look like what i'm after. good to know it exists though | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:39:34] <tuvwx> ken_barber: i'm writing the manual steps that you would have to do: commands to run, files to edit...etc. if you do not choose puppet - to get to the same final state | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:39:54] <matti> tuvwx: Sounds like a lot of work. | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:39:55] <matti> ;] | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:40:07] <matti> tuvwx: "Type ls; press ENTER" | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:40:07] <matti> ;D | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:40:16] <ken_barber> tuvwx: aaah. you need a tool that parses your catalog into manual instructions :-). | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:40:23] <tuvwx> i'm starting to thing so, especially after describing it ;) | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:40:28] <tuvwx> think* | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:41:35] <tuvwx> my motivation was to make non-sufficiently-technical people to appreciate the amount of work that is automatically performed by puppet | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:41:36] <ken_barber> tuvwx: such a tool would be awesome | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:42:02] <matti> tuvwx: There is quicker solution ;] | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:42:05] <matti> tuvwx: Quit ;] | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:42:06] <matti> ;p | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:42:28] <tuvwx> matti: care to share some of your crack?! | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:43:12] <ken_barber> tuvwx: the catalog is yaml ... so in theory it could be done programmatically ... iteration across a big hash basically, and printing human descriptions | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:43:26] <matti> tuvwx: Sorry, I have vey sarcastic sense of humour. | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:43:43] <tuvwx> matti: no worries. i'm enjoying it | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:43:45] <ken_barber> matti: while your sharing crack - send some my way | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:43:52] <matti> No problem. | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:44:07] <matti> I can also bake some cookies -- good Amsterdam style. | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:44:14] <matti> ;D | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:44:22] <Volcane> http://github.com/ripienaar/puppet-parselocalconfig can print the compiled catalog | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:44:34] <matti> Hi Volcane | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:44:39] <Volcane> lo :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:44:48] <ken_barber> Volcane :-) | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:47:51] <ken_barber> Volcane: we lost you guys at brussels station - hope you had a good journey. | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:48:22] <Volcane> yeah all good, 2nd last carriage. mostly empty | ||
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| [2010/05/30 18:52:30] <ken_barber> Volcane: I was fine until the walk home from the station. I gave the couch a good work-out once there though. | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:54:03] <Volcane> heh, why walk? | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:54:41] <ken_barber> Volcane: not much of a taxi service in my village | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:54:47] <Volcane> ah sux | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:57:17] <matti> ken_barber: We can start camel service ;] | ||
| [2010/05/30 18:57:28] <matti> ken_barber: And charge for hop in and out ;] | ||
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| [2010/05/30 19:05:09] <ken_barber> for those interested vote for programmatic quality ratings in forge: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/3914 | ||
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| [2010/05/30 19:27:14] <tuv> how do replace 'dpkg-reconfigure <pkgname>' and the associated debconf inputs with a puppet resource(s)? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 19:28:57] <bob2> do you really need dpkg-reconfigure? | ||
| [2010/05/30 19:29:12] <bob2> http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Debian_Preseed_Patterns is a way to control debconf | ||
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| [2010/05/30 19:53:00] <tuv> bob2: yes, but that only works if i'm installing a new package. anyway, i found out i can edit a file and run a program to have deconf's effect in this instance, so that's what i'm gonna do. but this is not always the cas | ||
| [2010/05/30 19:53:35] <bob2> hm, I suspect preseeding + running dpkg-reconfigure would work | ||
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| [2010/05/30 20:10:16] <tuv> using a nodes.pp file, how can i include a class in all but one node (preferrably without having to list all but one nodes)? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 20:14:58] <showy> you can define the node firts , and the define the default class | ||
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| [2010/05/30 20:26:52] <tuv> if i call a define in the default node, what happens if i call it again on a node that inherits default? | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:27:13] <tuv> if i call it again with another parameter, that is | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:30:32] <tuv> showy: if i define the node first, i will have to repeat all the common classes | ||
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| [2010/05/30 20:32:21] <tuv> basically, i have quite a few classes common to all my nodes, and one class with two mutually exclusive subclasses: one subclass for one node, the other for all other nodes | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:33:45] <rodnet> tuv: create a base class that all but that one node extends ? | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:35:40] <tuv> rodnet: 2 problems: 1) i will have to repeat all my common classes twice: once for the base node, and once for the different node. 2) i'll have to list all my nodes to make them inherit the base node | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:36:28] <rodnet> tuv: ok then how about not having a per host nodes file and in the default.pp putting | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:36:52] <rodnet> if tagged('specific.server') { include specific-server } else { include generic-server } or something ? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 20:38:03] <rodnet> tuv: you will probably have to adjust the condition in the if to suit though | ||
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| [2010/05/30 20:39:34] <tuv> rodnet: can i test for the hostname in the condition? | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:40:11] <rodnet> tuv: im not 100% sure ... maybe something like if $fqdn == "specific.myhost.com" {} ? | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:40:31] <tuv> rodnet: that could work! | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:40:34] <rodnet> i think ive only ever used tags in if's myself though | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:41:07] <tuv> so what happens if i call the same default twice on the same node, with different parameters? | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:41:07] <rodnet> and im not sure if that host will get tagged with the fqdn if you dont have a specific node file for it | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:41:23] <rodnet> the same default ? | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:41:25] <tuv> ooops | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:41:29] <tuv> the same define | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:42:15] <rodnet> you mean an actual define() ? It should be fine assuming the define is setup to work like that which they usually are | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:42:30] <tuv> if the default node has: define class1(), and node1 inherits default has: define class1(true) | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:42:43] <rodnet> oh | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:42:48] <rodnet> i dont think that will work | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:43:03] <rodnet> cause the defines will class because they have the same names | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:43:34] <rodnet> wouldnt you just put the define in an include and then call it from the nodes ? | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:43:48] * tuv is on the phone | ||
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| [2010/05/30 20:49:16] * tuv is back | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:49:29] <tuv> rodnet: actually, i miss expressed what i meant | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:49:47] <tuv> i have a define in the class with the two mutual subclasses | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:50:20] <tuv> calling the define with no parameter defaults to the first subclass, and with a true parameter chooses the second | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:51:21] <tuv> my intention was that, in the default node, i call the define with no parameters, and then in node1, which inherits default, call it with parameter true | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:53:18] <rodnet> ah ok then yeah that should be ok ... you just define it in like manifests/class1.pp and then in your node include class1 if (confidtion) { class() } else { class1(true) } or whatever | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:56:05] <tuv> rodnet: well i'm trying to avoid the if in the nodes. i'm assuming inheritance will allow overriding inherited resources | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:57:38] <rodnet> tuv: i wouldnt rely on that ... from memory ive had problems with that | ||
| [2010/05/30 20:57:48] <rodnet> i thought u only had 2 cases globally ? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 21:05:35] <tuv> hmm.. the define did not work indeed | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:05:44] <tuv> so there is no way around the if? | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:07:19] <tuv> how then would one override inheritance? | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:07:38] <tuv> i mean, override an inherited resource or define? | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:08:58] <blood> hrmm anyway to have apache treat .pkg on ubuntu as a single file rather than folder? | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:09:20] <blood> trying to grab it via a GET | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:09:31] <blood> i guess i can just zip it | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:09:46] <proton> it has to be zipped, you can't GET a directory... | ||
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| [2010/05/30 21:12:44] <proton> tuv: you can use this trick: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/exported_resources.html#exported_resources_override | ||
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| [2010/05/30 21:42:26] <tuv> proton: that is overriding inheritance, just for exported resources. i'm having trouble with good old inheritance overriding, without exported resources | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:43:36] <ohadlevy> tuv: I would avoid node inheritance | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:44:01] <tuv> rodnet: the if works. i just added: if hostname != differentnode { include commonclass }, i kept "include differentclass" in differentnode | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:44:47] <tuv> ohadlevy: i'm gettint to that same conclusion, although it would look neater in the code | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:45:10] <ohadlevy> tuv: why not use on of the many nice external node tools? | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:46:07] <tuv> ohadlevy: i'm implementing additional features that i could do without, and not really prepared to do any drastic changes to my setup | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:46:35] <ohadlevy> tuv: the nice thing about external nodes, that it can live next to your current node setup, and you can slowly migrate (if it make sense) | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:46:54] <ohadlevy> e.g. define a node in the external nodes classifier, and remove it from your nodes setup | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:47:09] <tuv> ohadlevy: i'll probably consider using ldap, if that's an optioin | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:47:32] <ohadlevy> tuv: it is, but I would recommend against it too (IMHO) | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:48:14] <tuv> ohadlevy: any particular reason? | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:49:00] <ohadlevy> tuv: for one, it doesnt solve the parameter inheritance in a nice way, secondly, its not widely use (AFAIK) | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:49:11] <ohadlevy> tuv: and you dont get shiny web interfaces ;) | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:50:04] <tuv> ohadlevy: well, shiny webinterfaces with puppet tend to be another ruby server. i'm not thrilled by the total memory consumptions with running all these ruby daemons | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:50:45] <ohadlevy> tuv: in my setup, (I use foreman) it takes about 50mb of ram | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:51:08] <tuv> ohadlevy: of course you use foreman ;) | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:51:56] <tuv> ohadlevy: is there any chance that foreman will make it into debian repo's any time soon, or at least become available as a deb? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 21:52:27] <ohadlevy> tuv: my debfoo is not that great, there is an rpm, which is fairly good, I'm guessing its not a lot of hard work to make a deb out of it | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:52:38] <ohadlevy> tuv: in the meanwhile, you can use the puppet module which configures it :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:53:44] <tuv> ohadlevy: i tried that. it got most things done, but had a problem with a missing gem that i had to install manually, although a matching debian package (not gem though) was installed | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:53:59] <ohadlevy> tuv: yeah, I fixed that | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:54:12] <ohadlevy> tuv: the rack gem right? | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:54:14] <tuv> when? this all happened to me yesterday | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:55:03] <ohadlevy> tuv: about 12 hours ago :) | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:55:29] <ohadlevy> tuv: I also switched to the newer version, which is way nicer (IMHO again;)) | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:56:45] <tuv> hmm.. tempting. but there still isn't a nice way of automatically running the server on boot, is there? | ||
| [2010/05/30 21:57:17] <ohadlevy> tuv: there is a startup script for RH/fedora, probably not much of work to get it automated too (or just use it with passenger) | ||
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| [2010/05/30 22:00:32] <ohadlevy> tuv: did you had a question about getting facts from other hosts? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 22:03:39] <blood> w00t got munki fully working. pretty neat management tool for osx | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:03:58] <blood> still nowhere near as powerful as puppet but handles softwareupdates quite well for osx | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:04:25] <andypea> I want my clients to only reboot if I run "puppetrun --host foo.bar.com --tags reboot" | ||
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| [2010/05/30 22:04:41] <andypea> But I'm having problems setting up my manifest | ||
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| [2010/05/30 22:09:37] <andypea> Does anyone know why 'if tagged(reboot) {exec { 'reboot-cmd': command => "/bin/date >> /puppet-test", } }' doesn't execute? | ||
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| [2010/05/30 22:10:55] <blood> is puppetmaster still using WEBrick? i know dashboard/foreman uses it so i assume puppet does | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:11:07] <blood> book i'm reading talked about migrating to Mongrel | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:11:20] <ohadlevy> blood: you probably want to look at passenger instead | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:11:32] <blood> that will handle the load better? | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:11:51] <ohadlevy> blood: its easier to setup IMHO and much less maintenance | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:11:54] <blood> i'm going to have roughly 350 machines | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:12:04] <ohadlevy> blood: plus, foreman / dashboard can use it too | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:12:10] <blood> is there documentation on how to get it running? | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:12:15] <blood> i already have apache2 installed | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:12:19] <tuv> ohadlevy: yes. list of hostnames | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:13:09] <ohadlevy> tuv: you can use Foreman query interface then - http://theforeman.org/projects/foreman/wiki/Query_Interface | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:13:33] <ohadlevy> blood: on ubuntu, you need to install libapache2-mod-passenger | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:13:56] <ohadlevy> blood: wiki:Using_passenger | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:13:56] <gepetto> ohadlevy: blood: wiki:Using_passenger is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Using_passenger "Puppet - Using Passenger - PuppetLabs.com" | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:13:59] <blood> thanks | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:14:38] <blood> ah already got it installed apparently | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:16:05] <blood> nice doc=) | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:16:08] <blood> i'll go through it later | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:16:57] * tuv wishes there was a passanger for lighttpd, or nginx | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:17:22] * tuv prefers lighttpd | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:19:12] <blood> this puppet book is quite good even if its outdated | ||
| [2010/05/30 22:19:57] <ohadlevy> tuv: passenger works with nginx | ||
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