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| [2010/06/06 03:15:38] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Frequently_Asked_Questions (#23) @ http://projects.reductivelabs.com/projects/1/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions?version=23 (by Matt Robinson) | ||
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| [2010/06/06 07:38:26] <laomao> When doing vhosts for various applications (eg trac, or roundcube, or eventum) should I have an apache::eventum which holds the vhost, or should the vhost go with the module, so eventum.pp and associates classes should contain the vhost? | ||
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| [2010/06/06 07:55:15] <joe-mac> laomao: yoiu ashould create a define called apache_vhst under apache | ||
| [2010/06/06 07:55:19] <joe-mac> or something like vhost | ||
| [2010/06/06 07:55:43] <joe-mac> so you reference it with apache::vhost { "somenewwebsite": option1 => "valu1", ... } | ||
| [2010/06/06 07:56:15] <joe-mac> brb gotta reboot | ||
| [2010/06/06 07:56:39] <joe-mac> this LANL doc on puppet is ick ass btw guys | ||
| [2010/06/06 07:56:47] <joe-mac> posted on the list yesterday, should check it out | ||
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| [2010/06/06 10:11:06] <joe-mac> man, git continuously impresses me | ||
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| [2010/06/06 10:11:27] <joe-mac> i need to get that professional git or whatever it's called the apress book | ||
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| [2010/06/06 10:41:50] <Volcane> joe-mac: you can get pdf's free, legit ones | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:42:12] <joe-mac> really? do you have a link Volcane? | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:42:32] <joe-mac> i'm thinking about maybe slowly trying to move from operations to ruby programming... what do you think Volcane? | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:42:37] <joe-mac> i like the stuff you do especially | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:42:55] <Volcane> redraftable.com/temp/progit.pdf | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:43:06] <Volcane> its a CC licenced book | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:43:17] <Volcane> joe-mac: I do lots of both :) | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:43:44] <Volcane> joe-mac: and dont really want to stop doing operations cos i think that only way to keep building tools that are relevant is by doing/using | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:43:52] <joe-mac> true | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:44:01] <joe-mac> but right now i have no time fo rbig programming projects | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:44:46] <Volcane> mostly i code out of hours | ||
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| [2010/06/06 10:47:03] <ohadlevy> joe-mac: code for what you need to do on your day job :) | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:48:23] <joe-mac> right. i just started doing my first puppet type for pam | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:48:32] <joe-mac> i want to focus on adding security types to puppet | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:48:42] <ohadlevy> joe-mac: that would be useful | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:48:42] <joe-mac> feels like a good area to give some love | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:49:02] <Volcane> yeah | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:49:05] <joe-mac> i've been talking about it for months but i got a good few hours before my girl treks out here from boston to lowell to pick me up | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:49:45] <Volcane> hehe, my girl works evenings every 2nd week, does wonders for free time | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:49:49] <joe-mac> and i'm motivated today for some reason | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:50:09] <joe-mac> yea dude besides work and the lady and my custody battle, i am spread pretty thin | ||
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| [2010/06/06 10:50:47] <ohadlevy> you lucky guys :) | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:51:02] * ohadlevy have no such luck | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:51:45] <joe-mac> lol, define luck | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:52:01] <joe-mac> battling to see your child and going through the personal prison of not seeing him is the opposite opf luck | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:52:07] * Whoop is single - does wonders for free time ;-) | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:52:54] <ohadlevy> Whoop: I wouldnt mind being single for a couple of nights per month ;-) | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:53:33] <Whoop> hehe | ||
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| [2010/06/06 10:55:54] <joe-mac> fianlly- a networjk manager plugin for cisco anyconnect asa | ||
| [2010/06/06 10:56:10] <joe-mac> fucking beautiful, since the ipsec shit dies constantly | ||
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| [2010/06/06 15:29:51] * agaffney stabs class inheritance and variable scoping | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:30:20] <agaffney> I have a class zabbix::agent::check that defines a var as $zabbix_include_dir = "/etc/zabbix/include" | ||
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| [2010/06/06 15:30:41] <agaffney> if I try to use that var in a class inherting from this class, it's empty | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:31:02] <agaffney> file { "${zabbix_include_dir}/${item}.conf": | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:31:20] <agaffney> what do I need to do to reference that var in a child class? | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:33:41] <Volcane> agaffney: u mean class foo { $bar = "foo" } class bar inherits foo { notice $bar } ? | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:34:48] <agaffney> basically | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:35:03] <Volcane> that works though | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:35:15] <agaffney> except it's not :P | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:35:20] <agaffney> the var is empty | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:36:55] <Volcane> http://pastebin.com/GuTcP1RL | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:37:00] <agaffney> hmm, it seems to work in some ways and not in anothers | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:37:12] <agaffney> I've got another subclass where File[$zabbix_include_dir] works | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:37:20] <Volcane> class bar cant set a variable and expect class foo to access it though | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:37:55] <agaffney> yeah, I know that | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:38:03] <agaffney> it doesn't seem to work when you include it in a string | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:40:11] <agaffney> if I take your example and do: notice "bar - $bar", it works fine | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:40:17] <agaffney> but it doesn't seem to be working for me | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:40:28] <agaffney> at least when including the var in the resource name | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:43:32] <agaffney> it is perhaps because it's in a define? | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:44:17] <Volcane> show code | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:44:31] <agaffney> yep, the define breaks it | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:44:51] <agaffney> http://dpaste.com/203960/ | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:44:55] <agaffney> building off of your example | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:45:19] <Volcane> yeah thats normal | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:45:21] <agaffney> the define inside the child class doesn't have access to the inherited vars | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:45:22] <agaffney> oh? | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:45:27] <tuvwx> agaffney: $zabbix::agent::check::zabbix_include_dir ? | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:45:52] <tuvwx> agaffney: all variables have 'private' scope | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:45:57] <agaffney> tuvwx: I was trying to avoid that. also, I don't quite know how to quote that in a string :P | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:45:57] <Volcane> agaffney: yeah defines arent part of the class scope as such, if u want a var in it from outside u need to pass it in | ||
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| [2010/06/06 15:46:31] <Volcane> agaffney: cos like you can create defined resources from any class, it wouldnt make sense to have them magic inherit some vars from their containing/defining class | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:46:40] <agaffney> Volcane: yeah, makes sense | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:46:43] <agaffney> I just wasn't expecting it | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:46:43] <tuvwx> agaffney: i ran into this situation. ended up doing: $zabbix_include_dir = $zabbix::agent::check::zabbix_include_dir | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:47:00] <agaffney> tuvwx: hmm, good idea | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:47:30] <Volcane> agaffney: ${foo::bar} i think | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:48:49] <Volcane> but totally the best idea is to make a param on the define and pass it in | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:49:02] * tuvwx discussed this issue here yesterday ;) | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:49:07] <agaffney> heh | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:49:45] <agaffney> Volcane: the parameter on the define is overkill, since it never changes | ||
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| [2010/06/06 15:49:55] <agaffney> and if tuvwx's method works, that's the best way for this case | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:50:47] <agaffney> yep, tuvwx's way worked fine | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:50:48] <agaffney> thanks | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:53:51] <jdarius> Hey, I'm trying to get started. I have a fresh centOS, trying to figure out how to make puppet install git-core (I already did ntp tutorial). | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:53:55] <jdarius> Suggest a link? | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:54:44] <Volcane> ntp tutorial installed a package right? | ||
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| [2010/06/06 15:55:29] <jdarius> Volcane: yes... i'll keep playing with it. I was just hoping there would be a shared module already | ||
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| [2010/06/06 15:57:30] <Volcane> jdarius: forge.puppetlabs.com | ||
| [2010/06/06 15:59:54] <jdarius> thanks Volcane. | ||
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| [2010/06/06 16:31:49] <jdarius> ok, so, I think I understand my confusion. I probably shouldn't be trying to make puppet install rubygems/git/basic stuff on the puppetmaster machine | ||
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| [2010/06/06 16:34:18] <agaffney> jdarius: why not? | ||
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| [2010/06/06 16:38:57] <jdarius> agaffney: ok, going back to try it again. | ||
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| [2010/06/06 19:18:37] <lucid> hi, i've got a 2 shiny new installs of ubuntu 10.04 and i am installing/configure puppet for the first time. I believe I have installed both the server and client... and i am the part of the configuration that has me run "puppetd --server myserver.domain.com --waitforcert 60 --test". We I run this command on the client machine it returns to a prompt. "puppetca --list" on the server side... | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:18:39] <lucid> ...returns blank. | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:19:38] <rodnet> lucid: try adding a -d to that command on the client side for more detail | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:21:38] <lucid> rodnet: ty. that give me something to look at... Could not create PID file. | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:22:02] <lucid> hmmm... puppet is already running... | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:22:49] <Volcane> isnt debian awesome. automatically start all unconfigured software | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:23:39] <rodnet> Volcane: the backports version doesnt start puppet by default | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:24:01] <lucid> when i init.d stop puppet and restart it the message is the same "Could not prepare for execution: Could not create PID file:"... | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:24:55] <rodnet> lucid: you start it with sudo ? | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:25:44] <lucid> lucid:<<<feeling like a rookie ... | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:27:04] <lucid> -d is good....ty | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:27:07] <lucid> warning: peer certificate won't be verified in this SSL session | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:31:37] <rodnet> thats normal on first run | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:32:09] <rodnet> once its signed and you have run it and all the certificates have been exchanged that warning will go away | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:33:01] <lucid> sounds reasonable... i expected to see it puppetca --list on the server? | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:33:07] <lucid> nothing yet | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:35:26] <rodnet> it should be in the ca straight away if it worked | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:35:39] <rodnet> the puppetca --list that is | ||
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| [2010/06/06 19:36:13] <rodnet> if you run "ping puppet" does it resolve to the right ip ? | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:38:05] <lucid> ping reslove to the right ip... also getting | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:38:08] <lucid> debug: Using cached certificate for ca, good until Sat May 30 16:24:17 UTC 2015 | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:38:17] <lucid> on the client | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:38:45] <rodnet> hmmm sounds like it hit a master | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:38:52] <rodnet> you running the puppetca command via sudo ? | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:39:34] <lucid> nice... | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:39:44] <lucid> ty | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:41:26] <rodnet> lol was that it ? | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:42:49] <lucid> ugg... the pain of rookidum ... the client now shows up... | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:42:54] <lucid> ; ) | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:43:30] <rodnet> its all good :) | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:46:15] <lucid> the sudo puppetca is returning | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:46:28] <lucid> debug: Failed to load library 'selinux' for feature 'selinux' | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:46:29] <lucid> debug: Failed to load library 'ldap' for feature 'ldap' | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:46:31] <lucid> debug: Puppet::Type::User::ProviderLdap: feature ldap is missing | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:47:13] <lucid> omw to google... | ||
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| [2010/06/06 19:52:58] <lucid> uh oh... http://www.mentby.com/scott-beardsley-2/default-gateway-facter-problems.html | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:55:18] <blood> ohadlevy around? | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:55:26] <blood> i forget how to point my client to show up in foreman | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:57:57] <lucid> i am looking of the stable version? | ||
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| [2010/06/06 19:58:52] <blood> lucid can the client ping the puppet master | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:59:07] <blood> you should be seeing a cert | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:59:09] <blood> do this | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:59:18] <blood> sudo puppetca --clean --all on the puppetmaster | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:59:23] <blood> then do another request from client | ||
| [2010/06/06 19:59:30] <blood> wipe out the /etc/puppet/ssl folder from client first | ||
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| [2010/06/06 20:02:06] <lucid> blood: no /etc/puppet/ssl folder on the client ... | ||
| [2010/06/06 20:03:11] <lucid> there is the templates and manifests .... | ||
| [2010/06/06 20:04:03] <lucid> oh.... /var/lib/puppet/ssl? | ||
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| [2010/06/06 20:07:36] <rodnet> those failed to load library warnings are pretty normal | ||
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| [2010/06/06 20:11:42] <lucid> gotcha ... | ||
| [2010/06/06 20:11:53] <blood> yea lucid | ||
| [2010/06/06 20:12:07] <blood> that's the client one | ||
| [2010/06/06 20:12:19] <blood> and yes those failed warnings i get on my client | ||
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| [2010/06/06 20:27:14] <CraftyTech_> hello all | ||
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| [2010/06/06 21:49:34] <ohadlevy> blood: am now | ||
| [2010/06/06 21:58:25] <ohadlevy> 1 | ||
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| [2010/06/06 23:34:00] <Michael_Kang> Hi all. I'm trying to use Puppet to manage some packages which was installed from sources. But I have no ideas for how to start. | ||
| [2010/06/06 23:34:45] <Michael_Kang> Does anybody has the same experience? | ||
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| [2010/06/06 23:38:50] <ohadlevy> Michael_Kang: use a native package and then deploy it with puppet | ||
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| [2010/06/06 23:40:18] <Michael_Kang> But those packages which I need were unavailable. | ||
| [2010/06/06 23:42:46] <Michael_Kang> such as *haproxy* and *nginx*. | ||
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| [2010/06/06 23:44:54] <ohadlevy> Michael_Kang: usually they are (depends on your os), if not, just make those | ||
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