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| [2010/06/22 00:47:58] <nico> raahhh | ||
| [2010/06/22 00:48:09] <nico> can't find out anything in these new docs | ||
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| [2010/06/22 00:50:39] <Volcane> yeah between the bad FF renderings and the split over many pages, i tend to just use the ones i generated msyelf :( | ||
| [2010/06/22 00:52:10] <kuh> bitfield: It looks like puppetd is not closing ldap connections properly | ||
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| [2010/06/22 00:53:05] <kuh> puppetd 31727 root 7u IPv4 161164791 TCP x.x.x.x:35322->y.y.y.y:ldap (CLOSE_WAIT) | ||
| [2010/06/22 00:53:12] <kuh> and after some time... | ||
| [2010/06/22 00:53:23] <kuh> puppetd 31727 root 7u sock 0,5 161164791 can't identify protocol | ||
| [2010/06/22 00:54:12] <kuh> so each run the number of open files will increment | ||
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| [2010/06/22 01:11:53] <sarts_work> hi | ||
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| [2010/06/22 01:21:10] <sarts_work> I am trying to define a type for a module I am writing. To be precise: a 'proxy | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:21:19] <sarts_work> type for an apache module. | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:21:40] <sarts_work> I must say... it is a challenge ;-) | ||
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| [2010/06/22 01:30:27] <sarts_work> Do I need a provider to use the type? | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:31:06] <kuh> bitfield: sorry, not each run. Only on runs puppet cannot talk to ldap, spitting this: "nss_ldap: could not get LDAP result - Can't contact LDAP server" | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:31:14] <sarts_work> I want to simply use the type as a complex data-store. But ofcourse I could use a declaration in combination with a template too. | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:34:55] <blkperl> sarts_work: yes you need to write a provider :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:35:21] <sarts_work> blkperl, ok :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:35:40] <blkperl> sarts_work: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/custom_types.html | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:36:45] <sarts_work> yeah, found that. | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:37:07] <Volcane> sarts_work: will a define not work for you? | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:38:41] <sarts_work> Volcane: I have a define which fills a template for the vhost configuration. However, the proxy-settings are quite complex. (with different proxy-directives for different destinations) | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:39:05] <Volcane> ah | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:39:53] <sarts_work> ProxyPass /errors ! | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:40:02] <sarts_work> ProxyPass / ajp://localhost:8009 | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:40:13] <sarts_work> ProxyPassReverse / ajp://localhost:8009/ | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:40:22] <sarts_work> And ofcourse the cookiedomains... | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:40:47] <sarts_work> I want to make it possible to add any number of proxypass directives inside the vhost config ;-) | ||
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| [2010/06/22 01:41:21] <sarts_work> but it comes with protocol, host, port and path parameters for both source and destination. | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:42:09] * Volcane 'd just build the vhost files up with snippets, but thats the lazy way i guess | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:42:24] <sarts_work> which led me to the idea I need a custom 'proxy' type for that. | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:42:28] <Kiloman> sarts_work: if you wanted to take the easy way out, you could use a template and some combination of arrays, splitting, and iteration | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:43:36] <Kiloman> ERB is quite flexible and you could pass the template an array of ProxyPass directives with some sort of delimiter | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:43:54] <Kiloman> but like I said, not as cool as a custom type | ||
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| [2010/06/22 01:56:33] <alcy> Folks, is there a way to *not* automate package installation through puppet ? basically, how to get more flexibility while installing packages ? --custom paramaters to apt-get etc. | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:56:53] <alcy> ...in other words, interactive installation through debconf | ||
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| [2010/06/22 01:57:35] <ptman> alcy, you probably want to preseed debconf answers and let if pick the values from there | ||
| [2010/06/22 01:57:50] <ptman> look for recipes related to debconf and debconf automation in debian documentation | ||
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| [2010/06/22 02:00:38] <alcy> ptman: I am not sure if this is what you are suggesting, but I have configured debconf for the least amount of automation, but I am not sure what needs to be done so that puppet can use it in a similar way ? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:02:05] <Volcane> how would it work? would you expect it to prompt you for answers mid puppet run? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:02:55] <alcy> Volcane: that's what I as thinking but seems you disapprove of the idea ? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:03:29] <Volcane> puppet generally runs in the background every 30 minutes and just does what you want | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:03:30] <ptman> alcy, http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Debian_Preseed_Patterns | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:03:37] <Volcane> preseeding is def the way to go | ||
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| [2010/06/22 02:04:02] <Volcane> alcy: less interactivity and more guaranteed same outcome between runs is what puppet is for | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:04:30] <alcy> Volcane: blame it on my unawareness of preseed utility in Debian ! | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:04:39] <Volcane> :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:04:46] <alcy> ptman: thanks a lot for the link. | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:04:52] <ptman> np | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:04:55] <fluxdude> when putting new rpms and trying to upgrade software right now using puppet, I build new rpms, put then in our repo, update the repo metadata | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:05:07] <fluxdude> but then I also have to update the client's yum caches by hand as well | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:05:16] <fluxdude> how do you deal with this? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:05:27] <fluxdude> do you have puppet run a yum makecache before every run or something? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:05:38] <Djelibeybi> fluxdude: I have my Package{} types require a Exec{"yum makecache":} | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:05:40] <fluxdude> otherwise it cannot find the package version that the manifest has incremented to | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:05:53] <Djelibeybi> Though, most times my cache would already have expired. | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:06:02] <Djelibeybi> You could set yum.conf to have an immediate cache expiry too | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:06:26] <fluxdude> Djelibeybi: doesn't yum makecache take long enough that the Exec times out? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:06:38] <fluxdude> I had this problem yesterday when getting puppet to do an svn co | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:06:39] <Djelibeybi> fluxdude: you can tell exec to extend the timeout | ||
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| [2010/06/22 02:06:49] <Volcane> and not use remote repositories | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:06:52] <Djelibeybi> there is a parameter for that, but I can't remember what it is offhand. | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:07:01] <Djelibeybi> Yeah, all our repos are local | ||
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| [2010/06/22 02:09:04] <fluxdude> ah, thanks, I knew there was a timeout, didn't know it could be set on an exec by exec basis | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:09:21] <fluxdude> Volcane: all my repos are internal | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:09:27] <fluxdude> mirrors or custom repos | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:09:44] * Volcane just have a quick mcollective task to clear caches only when updating repos | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:09:54] <Volcane> much less stress all round, yum make cache takes a lot of cpu too | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:10:10] <fluxdude> Volcane: yes I think it's a bit heavy handed to have it all the time | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:10:25] <fluxdude> so you think expiring the cache quickly is the way to go? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 02:10:40] <Volcane> same result as running it all the time doesnt it? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:10:49] <fluxdude> that's what I thought | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:10:53] <fluxdude> so what do you do then? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:11:08] <Volcane> when i update my repo | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:11:11] <Volcane> i do: mc-rpc --no-results package yum_clean | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:11:17] <Volcane> that cleans all my caches | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:11:19] <fluxdude> I mean, I could try to make the cache 2 minutes or something, but I may as well just require a makecache at the start in case a puppet run takes more than 2 mins | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:11:20] <Volcane> only when i update the repo | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:11:42] <fluxdude> I ssh for loop yum makecache in parallel, so similar thing | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:11:56] <fluxdude> is there really no better way? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:12:02] <fluxdude> I can't think of one, which is why I ask... | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:12:26] <Volcane> mc-rpc --no-results package yum_clean 0.12s user 0.00s system 14% cpu 0.831 total | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:12:38] <Volcane> takes less than 1 second to do for all my servers | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:12:40] <Volcane> works awesomely | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:13:10] <fluxdude> Djelibeybi: so you have an Exec "yum makecache" on every single run, not using any refreshonly or something? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:13:36] <Djelibeybi> fluxdude: it only happens during our bootstrap environment. Production mode doesn't install any RPMs | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:13:48] <fluxdude> Djelibeybi: really????!!!!!! | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:13:53] <fluxdude> Djelibeybi: how does that work? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:14:06] <fluxdude> do you deploy software with puppet, do you do software updates etc? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:14:11] <Djelibeybi> fluxdude: all our nodes start up in environment=bootstrap which does all the initial hardening/provisionin. | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:14:25] <fluxdude> I have to do releases for our public webapps so I tend to package them in to rpms | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:14:28] <Djelibeybi> fluxdude: last step is a switch of puppet.conf to environment=production, which just ensures all security settings remain set | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:14:41] <Djelibeybi> fluxdude: I work at a bank. No changes to software at all in production. | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:14:42] <fluxdude> Djelibeybi: but what about updates, do you do them by hand? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:14:54] <Djelibeybi> If we need to upgrade, we rebuild all the machines. :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:14:55] <fluxdude> Djelibeybi: I want to work where you work then! ;-) | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:14:58] <Djelibeybi> Which means a change to bootstrap, not production | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:15:17] <Djelibeybi> No, you don't. | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:15:17] <Djelibeybi> Updates take months | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:15:17] <fluxdude> Djelibeybi: well that certainly simplifies things then! | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:15:29] <Djelibeybi> Every change has to go through dev/test/uat/sit/pre-prod | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:15:38] <fluxdude> Djelibeybi: yeah but it's safe and you're not doing releases all the time... | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:15:40] <Djelibeybi> As well as NFI testing and integration testing | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:15:44] <Djelibeybi> Yup | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:15:52] <fluxdude> unlike the agile environment where every other day I get requests to upgrade stuff | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:16:13] <fluxdude> Djelibeybi: NFI? No F*ing Idea? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:16:15] <Djelibeybi> We don't change production at all. We just rebuild it alongside. Benefit of having everything run as a VM and all servers are quadruplicated | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:16:27] <Djelibeybi> Non-functional Integration | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:16:40] <Djelibeybi> i.e. testing with fleshpackets | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:16:53] <fluxdude> what happens if there is a security hole in something? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:17:01] <fluxdude> you build a new vm and replace the old one? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:17:27] <Djelibeybi> Yup | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:17:32] <Djelibeybi> Online and live. | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:17:38] <Djelibeybi> We just switch the hardware load-balancers | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:17:48] <Djelibeybi> In fact, most often we have old/new nodes running at the same time | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:17:57] <Djelibeybi> So we switch everything across seamlessly | ||
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| [2010/06/22 02:34:06] <fluxdude> Djelibeybi: that is a good idea | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:34:12] <fluxdude> I guess the bank can afford it | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:34:27] <fluxdude> what load balancers do you use out of curiosity? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:34:33] <Djelibeybi> fluxdude: yeah, it's a requirement for our uptime. | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:34:43] <Djelibeybi> fluxdude: we have a bunch. Juniper and Cisco mainly | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:35:39] <Djelibeybi> Actually, we also have a bunch of F5s | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:39:19] <barn> Djelibeybi: you live! | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:39:30] <Djelibeybi> barn: I do! | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:39:50] <barn> hurrah! hope you're mending quickly | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:40:32] <Djelibeybi> Getting there slowly. I can now walk with a bit of assistance and I can stand up by myself | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:41:52] <Berge> Djelibeybi: If you don't mind me asking; how did you get immobilized? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:41:55] * canllaith applauds | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:42:10] <Djelibeybi> Berge: I managed to get Guillain-Barre Syndrome. | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:42:11] <Berge> Djelibeybi: And lots of cheers and wishes for quick healing (-: | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:42:23] <Djelibeybi> Thanks! | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:42:53] <Berge> Oh, inflammatory stuff attacking the nervous system? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:43:02] <Berge> Can't be too good. | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:43:22] <Djelibeybi> Yeah, somethine like that. It's a demyelinating disorder, so it removes the tissue around the nerves | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:43:30] <Djelibeybi> It's an auto-immune response gone madde | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:44:41] <Berge> Right. Well, it links you to Franklin D. Roosevelt, at least! (-: | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:44:45] <Berge> (I had to look it up.) | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:44:52] <Berge> Will you make a full recovery? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:45:02] <Djelibeybi> Yeah, a bunch of fun people have had it. | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:45:27] <Djelibeybi> Looks like it, but no guarantees. It looks like I may have lost a bit of facial control on my right-hand side | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:45:39] <Djelibeybi> That hasn't come back completely yet. May only come back after a few months | ||
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| [2010/06/22 02:47:39] <Berge> Djelibeybi: Mm. Well, I'm sure you'll be up and running as fast as possible! (-: | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:48:09] <Djelibeybi> The abundance of Apple products in my vicinity certainly helps. :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:49:05] <Berge> \o/ | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:49:34] <Berge> Or, I'd rather say /o\, really. | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:49:58] <Berge> Apple products are not my cup of tea, but whatever it takes to get you healthy, I guess (-: | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:50:25] <Djelibeybi> I'm a self-confessed major fanboi. I have an MBP, iPad and iPhone all with me. | ||
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| [2010/06/22 02:51:13] <Volcane> Djelibeybi: updated to 4 yet? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:51:39] <Djelibeybi> Volcane: sadly, no. My iPhone syncs with my Mac at home, so I have to wait until the weekend to upgrade | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:51:45] <Volcane> hehe | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:51:53] <Volcane> you'll hate your ipad when you do | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:52:00] <Berge> iOS, now still without multitasking? (-: | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:52:13] <Volcane> Berge: TSR! | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:52:16] <Berge> (Nor ability to change background image.) | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:52:23] <Berge> TSR? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:52:39] <Volcane> Berge: terminate and stay resident - old DOS style multi tasking | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:52:47] <Volcane> Berge: it can also change background images just fine | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:53:10] <Berge> Non-jail-braked? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:53:13] <Berge> brake!Hah. | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:53:14] <Berge> Break. | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:53:40] <Volcane> yes, basically in os 4 they let you keep threads doing certain tasks running | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:53:47] <Volcane> say playing a music stream off spotify | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:53:56] <Volcane> but its very much like TSRs only certain types of threads etc | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:54:02] <Volcane> and they wake you up based on events | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:54:10] <Djelibeybi> Berge: yup | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:54:19] <Volcane> for fast app switching they state snapshot the app and restore it quickly so you go right back to where you were basically | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:54:21] <Djelibeybi> Volcane: I suspect iOS4 will come out for the iPad fairly soon | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:54:28] <Volcane> Djelibeybi: fall :( | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:54:51] <Djelibeybi> Volcane: what is the ETA for iOS4 for iPad then? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:55:14] <proton> non existent | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:55:17] <proton> apple hasn't given one | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:55:21] <Volcane> Djelibeybi: fall, like end of season | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:56:18] <Volcane> autumn | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:56:18] <Djelibeybi> Volcane: that's only a couple of months, yes? | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:56:19] <sarts_work> damn... | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:56:26] <Volcane> Djelibeybi: nods | ||
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| [2010/06/22 02:56:46] <Djelibeybi> Yeah, that's what I figured. Autumn in the northern hemisphere is spring down here | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:56:54] <Djelibeybi> So, not that long, all things considered. | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:56:59] <Volcane> yup | ||
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| [2010/06/22 02:57:07] <sarts_work> location, proxypass, rewriterules, cacheroot... some things are a pain to set up... | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:57:22] <Volcane> its a nice upgrade, esp mail | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:57:28] <Volcane> i ondt care much for the multi tasking | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:57:40] <Djelibeybi> I think the A4 processor in the iPad is fast enough. The fast app switching in iOS4 will make the 3GS "seem" faster | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:57:47] @ Quit: m1nish: Quit: Leaving | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:57:51] <Djelibeybi> Though, the iPhone 4 with the A4 processor looks very nice too | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:58:31] <Volcane> yeah hoping the launch here isnt a complete screwup, no doubt it will be | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:58:35] <Volcane> its managed by the mobile carriers | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:59:39] <Djelibeybi> Yeah, I'm not rushing to upgrade at all | ||
| [2010/06/22 02:59:58] <Djelibeybi> I want to change carriers anyway, so I need to wait for my contract to expire | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:00:10] <Volcane> my contract becomes eligable for an upgrade exactly on the launch day | ||
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| [2010/06/22 03:09:49] <Berge> http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apple d-: | ||
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| [2010/06/22 03:11:17] <barn> you bought the Bates 4000? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 03:14:54] <fruitcake> warning: The 'modules' module can not have a path. Ignoring attempt to set it <--- puppetmasterd output, I've removed any inkling of a path anywhere.. any clues? | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:15:12] <Volcane> Berge: heh yeah that roqs, my mom will get my old iphone i gues | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:15:32] <Volcane> fruitcake: fileserver.conf | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:15:36] <fruitcake> really? | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:15:39] <fruitcake> I looked there.. | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:16:00] <fruitcake> path is in there.. | ||
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| [2010/06/22 03:16:35] <fruitcake> hmmm.. | ||
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| [2010/06/22 03:17:29] <Volcane> it shouldnt have a path | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:18:53] <fruitcake> wow.. that was a stupid mistake. I typed modules instead of module | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:18:59] <fruitcake> spent like an hour looking for that.. | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:19:03] <fruitcake> :/ | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:19:09] <fruitcake> thanks Volcane | ||
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| [2010/06/22 03:22:10] <alcy> folks, is there a way to provide to universal access to a definition ? this is regarding my earlier quer regarding preseeding. | ||
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| [2010/06/22 03:23:29] <alcy> I am using a definition from the wiki named preseed_package, to take care of package management on debian systems. How can I make it available to all classes ? | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:23:54] <Volcane> a define is available everywhere | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:25:11] <alcy> Volcane: what i did was to describe the define inside the init.pp of a class named preseed, and other classes simply include preseed. then using preseed:preseed_package, I should able to sue the define right ? | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:25:30] <Volcane> yup, with 2 :s | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:25:30] <alcy> I meant preseed::preseed_package | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:25:33] <Volcane> yeah | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:25:48] <alcy> well, that gives an error of resource type not found | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:25:57] <Volcane> you did: define preseed::preseed_package (....) { } | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:25:57] <alcy> when I run it on the client | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:25:58] <Volcane> right? | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:26:11] <alcy> oh. | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:26:13] <Volcane> or | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:26:13] <alcy> no. | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:26:25] <Volcane> class preseed { define preseed_package() { } } | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:27:02] <alcy> yup that's what I did class preseed { define preseed_package() {} } | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:28:00] <Volcane> that syntax works | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:29:18] <alcy> hmmm, wonder what could be the problem, I will try the previous one ... define preseed::preseed_package | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:29:42] <Volcane> you must be naming files wrong so the auto loding doesnt find them | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:29:48] <Volcane> you using the module organization guides? | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:30:41] <alcy> umm...not sure of that, been checking out documentation on and off... | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:30:47] <alcy> from different sources. | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:31:25] <Volcane> http://docs.reductivelabs.com/guides/modules.html | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:31:30] <alcy> Volcane: do I need to include the preseed class (the one that contains the define) in the node declation as well ? | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:32:01] <Volcane> no | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:32:23] <alcy> Volcane: at least I got something right hee | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:33:08] <alcy> Volcane: oh I think I didn't make a manifests directory in the preseed class ! | ||
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| [2010/06/22 03:35:46] <kuh> bitfield: workaround - added "nss_connect_policy oneshot" to /etc/ldap.conf | ||
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| [2010/06/22 03:42:16] <alcy> Volcane: seems that wasn't the problem. am still getting the same error. | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:42:54] <alcy> Volcane: I mean that the directory structure is in place. | ||
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| [2010/06/22 03:48:24] <fluxdude> I've got a custom fact plugin for environment and now I'm trying to use environments am having problems getting puppetd --test --environment=development to work | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:48:33] <fluxdude> added debug to the custom fact plugin and it says | ||
| [2010/06/22 03:48:54] <fluxdude> that the environment variable is not set, that's why it's defaulting to production and I cannot testing development changes... | ||
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| [2010/06/22 03:52:04] <alcy> is there any other way to make a define available universally, instead of describing it inside a class ? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 03:57:03] <fluxdude> alcy: maybe put it in site.pp ? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 04:18:05] <alcy> ok , I simply made a defines folder in the class which required me to use preseed, and it works. There's a new query thoush: what does puppet:////daemons refer to ? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 04:22:44] <alcy> specifically, I am referring to the define as described here: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projetcs/puppet/wiki/Debian_Preseed_Patterns | ||
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| [2010/06/22 04:44:19] <Mgk> lo, can anyone help / point me in the right direction for setting enviroment variables in puppet? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 04:46:07] <bitfield> mgk: do you mean setting variables that you can reference in puppet manifests, or do you mean things that will show up in a user's shell environment? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 04:46:35] <Mgk> the latter | ||
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| [2010/06/22 04:47:10] <bitfield> seems like the simplest thing would be to use puppet to push out a .profile or a .bashrc file to do that | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:47:22] <Mgk> im trying to pass a password hash to usermod, to update the user password. | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:47:39] <bitfield> ah - so you want to set the environment for an exec | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:48:05] <Mgk> yes, | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:48:11] <bitfield> you could make the command for example "FOO=BAR /usr/sbin/usermod blah…." | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:48:13] <Mgk> something like this | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:48:14] <Mgk> exec { "usermod -p $namehash $name": | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:48:36] <Mgk> oh right, | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:48:39] <Mgk> cool i will try that | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:48:40] <Mgk> thanks | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:48:42] <bitfield> oh, well that's not an environment variable, just a variable :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:49:17] <Mgk> yeah i couldnt pass the hash as a variable, so was trying to put it in as an env var | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:49:36] <Mgk> as the hash has lots of / in etc | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:49:44] <Mgk> will give your suggestion a go | ||
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| [2010/06/22 04:50:10] <bitfield> if it's an issue of escaping special characters, i don't think that'll help much | ||
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| [2010/06/22 04:56:08] <bitfield> does setting the password via the user resource not work? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 04:57:04] <r3g1ster> mm.. is it possible to make a recipe which updates a file from the puppetmaster, except if a .lock file exists ? | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:57:41] <r3g1ster> so anyone can the .lock file if they want to do some editing on the local copy of the file - so it wont 'fix' itself from the puppetmaster later | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:58:54] <fluxdude> there is global locking | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:59:01] <fluxdude> also, you can just set replace => false | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:59:07] <fluxdude> but then it will never replace | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:59:27] <fluxdude> so perhaps an exec with an onlyif or a creates => to check for the lock file? | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:59:42] <Mgk> something like this? | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:59:43] <Mgk> http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Apt_Repositories_Patterns | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:59:56] <Mgk> it only does the kernel updates if the lock file is removed | ||
| [2010/06/22 04:59:59] <r3g1ster> well, its so other users can work on the files - without changing the puppetmaster config | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:00:07] <r3g1ster> looking now | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:00:15] <bitfield> r3g1ster: anything's possible, it's not necessarily desirable. mixing local edits with puppet management is going to bite you in the ass sooner or later, lock files or no :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:00:52] <Mgk> sorry reg, i think im thinking of something else | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:01:10] <bitfield> if you just want to avoid puppet stomping on the file for a temporary period, use puppetd —disable maybe | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:01:12] <barn> r3g1ster: just use puppetd --disable | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:01:16] <r3g1ster> bitfield: ye, agree - but its for a dev environment | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:01:22] <bitfield> barn: jinx, buy me a coke | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:01:35] <barn> buy your own narcotics! | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:01:45] <r3g1ster> some users will want the latest config coming through to their section, others will want to edit their config... | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:02:22] <r3g1ster> Mgk: ye, like the example - onlyif | ||
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| [2010/06/22 05:03:25] <bitfield> r3g1ster: i don't think anyone's solved this problem in a good way. i certainly haven't :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:03:38] <r3g1ster> damn :/ | ||
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| [2010/06/22 05:03:56] <r3g1ster> guess ill have to just edit the puppetmaster config for now | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:06:02] <bitfield> i've had this issue in the past with devs who want control of their boxes, yet also want automatic updates available via puppet | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:06:12] <r3g1ster> yep, exactly that | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:06:47] <bitfield> the compromise we came to was that we'll build the box with puppet initially, but then it doesn't run after that unless the dev wants to run it manually - and then they'll take responsibility for merging any local changes they've made | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:08:00] <bitfield> not entirely satisfactory, but better than me being lynched by a gang of angry hackers who've lost edits | ||
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| [2010/06/22 05:08:30] <r3g1ster> and pitty custom functions only run on the server | ||
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| [2010/06/22 05:18:05] <fluxdude> can anyone explain the control structure of "Facter.add(blah) do" to me? | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:18:15] <fluxdude> it's like a loop but I don't understand why it's like this | ||
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| [2010/06/22 05:23:34] <fluxdude> when writing custom facts that is | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:24:06] <fluxdude> surely Facter.add("whatever") should just be a method call and not a loop? | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:24:16] <Volcane> they're not loops | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:24:26] <Volcane> do ... end is markers for code blocks | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:24:29] <Volcane> what it says is | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:24:43] <Volcane> pass the code block to teh add method and run it in that scope | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:25:21] <Volcane> ruby calls them code blocks, hard to explain | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:25:30] <kjetilho> it's lambda! | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:25:36] <kjetilho> an anonymous function | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:25:39] <Volcane> anon function :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:25:39] <tim|mac> lambda ftw! | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:26:44] <fluxdude> oh no not lambdas... I never got in to them... | ||
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| [2010/06/22 05:27:14] <fluxdude> Volcane: thanks for the explanation on that | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:27:19] <Mgk> bitfield, thanks passing it via password worked :blush: | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:27:43] <fluxdude> I had an environment facter plugin to determine the environment according to the hostname | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:28:00] <fluxdude> but this prevented using the environment switch on the command line because always reset the environment | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:28:03] <Volcane> environemnt as a fact doesnt work in 25 | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:28:11] <fluxdude> really? | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:28:14] <Volcane> yup | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:28:19] <fluxdude> I'm on 0.24.8 | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:28:22] <Volcane> ok | ||
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| [2010/06/22 05:28:33] <fluxdude> so what is one supposed to do on 0.25 then? | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:28:38] <fluxdude> with environments? | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:28:40] <Volcane> struggle | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:28:49] <Volcane> you can only set them in the conf file | ||
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| [2010/06/22 05:28:58] <sarts_work> I remember reading a document about pointing the module path to a git repository... but my google skills have abandoned me :'( - any idea where to look? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 05:30:31] <fluxdude> Volcane: not even on the command line? | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:30:38] <fluxdude> Volcane: do you use environments? | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:30:40] <Volcane> thats hould also work | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:30:46] <Volcane> i use them yeah | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:30:58] <fluxdude> do you see the puppet.conf at install time or something then? | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:31:13] <fluxdude> I have puppet manage the puppet.conf, guess I might have to stop that then | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:31:23] <fluxdude> wonder why environment doesn't work with custom facts any more? | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:31:25] <Volcane> yeah, i dont tend to move machines between envs much | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:31:42] <Volcane> its a bug, should be sorted in 2.6 afaik | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:32:04] <fluxdude> I think I'll skip 25 altogether... wait until 26 is stable... | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:32:34] <verwilst> fluxdude, i use a template for puppet.conf where i set my env | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:32:48] <verwilst> i used the .024 way of defining environments as well | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:32:57] <verwilst> i think i made the bugreport on that issue | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:33:01] <verwilst> or at least commented on it :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:33:08] <fluxdude> verwilst: how do you determine what the environment should be, embedded ruby in the erb template? | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:33:54] <verwilst> environment = <%= environment %> | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:34:40] <verwilst> environment is passed through the node config with external_nodes shizzle | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:42:26] <tim|mac> i wish you could cherrypick changes when doing a git commit, like you can with darcs :S | ||
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| [2010/06/22 05:53:02] <Volcane> you can rebase | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:53:10] <Volcane> with -i it'll let you pick changes | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:54:19] <Volcane> no doubt otehr ways too, still learning git | ||
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| [2010/06/22 05:57:03] <tmz> tim|mac: "git add -p" let's you selectively take changes from your work tree and stage them for commit. | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:57:35] <tim|mac> hm... going to try that one | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:57:51] <tim|mac> but how do only commit the stuff you staged? | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:58:12] <tmz> tim|mac: Just plain 'git commit' without passing files in. | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:58:16] <Volcane> it only commits staged stuff | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:58:20] <tim|mac> ah ok | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:58:21] <tmz> Yeah | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:58:35] <tmz> If anyone told you to use git commit -a, ignore them. That's for svn users who never want to change. ;) | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:58:45] @ Quit: pjsz_: Quit: pjsz_ | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:59:11] <joe-mac> tmz: hmm, how come? | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:59:13] <tmz> If you ever stage things you don't want, git reset can unstage them. And reset also takes a -p option to selectively unstage things. | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:59:25] <joe-mac> i have been reading pro git on and off and using git but i am by no means even a power user | ||
| [2010/06/22 05:59:35] <tmz> joe-mac: Because it loses the wonderful advantages the staging area provides. | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:00:49] <tmz> commit -a might be useful sometimes, but overall I find it's not so useful once you start using the staging area. And, of course, that's just my opinion. | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:00:52] <joe-mac> i have to read more about it to understand that statement i think | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:01:03] <joe-mac> there's a lot to take in | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:01:29] <tim|mac> tmz: awesome tips, thanks! | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:01:59] <tmz> joe-mac: Yeah, it does take some getting used to compared to any other SCM I ever used. But once I started using it, I'd never go back. | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:03:19] <simplechat> Hey, i've got a smallish problem | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:03:21] <joe-mac> tmz: the more i read the more i like, i just don't use it on anything substantial to really get 'good' at it | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:03:36] <simplechat> i'm trying to get started with puppet, however puppetd/puppetmasterd don't actually give me any output, even when run with --verbose | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:03:37] <joe-mac> i generally su ck at things unless i use them everyday... then if i stop theknowledge quicvkly fades | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:03:49] <joe-mac> simplechat: are you daemonizing them>? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:04:03] <simplechat> i don't know | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:04:06] <simplechat> i just started them up | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:04:14] <simplechat> i'm doing what http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Simplest_Puppet_Install_Pattern told me to do | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:04:28] <Mgk> if you require something, does it have to be the same type? Eg two files, or can you have a file and a class? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:04:37] <simplechat> except that its not giving me the results required (ie. --verbose should be giving me some output, but its not) | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:04:54] <joe-mac> simplechat: if it daemonizes, it's not going to give you output in your shell | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:05:15] <simplechat> hmmm | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:05:35] <Mgk> puppetd --verbose --no-daemonize on client, and on server puppetmasterd --verbose --no-daemonize ? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:05:55] <simplechat> err: Could not call fileserver.list: #<Errno::EHOSTUNREACH: No route to host - connect(2)> | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:05:56] <simplechat> err: /File[/var/lib/puppet/lib]: Failed to generate additional resources during transaction: No route to host - connect(2) | ||
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| [2010/06/22 06:06:23] <simplechat> Mgk, trying that now | ||
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| [2010/06/22 06:08:23] <simplechat> joe-mac, i forced both not to deamonize | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:08:25] <simplechat> now i'm getting output | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:08:47] <simplechat> but it doesn't make much sense. Its saying "Cannot find server puppet.localhost" however puppet.localhost is defined in /etc/hosts | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:09:06] @ Quit: manuell: Remote host closed the connection | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:09:19] <Mgk> your puppet master is puppet.localhost? does it resolove if you ping it | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:09:24] <simplechat> yep | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:09:33] <joe-mac> puppet.localhost? can you pastie your puppet.conf file | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:09:40] <joe-mac> and by paostie i mean use pastie.org or another paste service | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:09:56] <simplechat> joe-mac, its unchanged from the default | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:10:15] <simplechat> (i'm specifying --server on the command line) | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:10:28] <joe-mac> right, so don't do that | ||
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| [2010/06/22 06:11:19] <simplechat> this is strange | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:11:34] <simplechat> if i give it localhost, it connects but exists with an error "err: /File[/var/lib/puppet/lib]: Failed to retrieve current state of resource: Certificates were not trusted: hostname was not match with the server certificate Could not describe /plugins: Certificates were not trusted: hostname was not match with the server certificate" | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:12:06] <joe-mac> simplechat: it's not strange... don't pass --server to it, and what do you get | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:12:57] <simplechat> ok | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:13:00] <simplechat> that's new | ||
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| [2010/06/22 06:13:21] <simplechat> err: /File[/var/lib/puppet/lib]: Failed to generate additional resources during transaction: Cannot access mount[plugins] | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:13:25] <simplechat> however it did connect | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:13:43] <simplechat> however it still has no certificates to sigh | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:13:45] <simplechat> *sign | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:13:46] <joe-mac> yea, disable pluginsync and that error will probably go away | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:14:15] <simplechat> warning: Could not find facts for $myhostname$; you probably have a discrepancy between the node and fact names | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:14:30] <simplechat> however in my site.pp i'm using node default | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:14:34] <simplechat> shouldn't that include all nodes? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:14:43] <Mgk> if you do | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:14:49] <Mgk> facter | grep fqdn | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:14:56] <Mgk> on host, is that the name your using in your sites? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:15:48] <simplechat> yeah | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:16:05] <simplechat> its also the server i'm attempting to connect to | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:16:27] <joe-mac> right- so when you started puppetmasterd for the first time, did you try to pass --server to it or --certname? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:16:42] <simplechat> neither | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:16:55] <simplechat> --mkusers | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:17:00] <simplechat> http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Simplest_Puppet_Install_Pattern | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:17:01] <joe-mac> what os is this? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:17:11] <simplechat> debian lenny | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:17:25] <joe-mac> just use the package, should be .25.4 in lenny | ||
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| [2010/06/22 06:17:32] <simplechat> thats what i'm using | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:17:48] <joe-mac> then why would you run --mkusers? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:17:52] <joe-mac> that guide is for source install | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:18:18] <simplechat> joe-mac, because i can't find any guides to show me how to set this up | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:19:26] <simplechat> the only other thing i could find is http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/526 | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:19:28] <simplechat> which is broken | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:19:42] <Mgk> So youve installed from source? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:20:08] <simplechat> debian packages | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:20:55] <Mgk> is that 0.25.4? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:21:13] <simplechat> 0.24.5 | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:21:23] <Tonnerre> Wow, that's ancient | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:21:30] <simplechat> ah | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:21:35] <Tonnerre> I heard the greeks used 0.24.5 | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:21:36] <Mgk> ok aybe install from backports | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:21:40] <simplechat> should i get rid of it then? and just build it from source? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 06:22:14] <simplechat> ok | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:22:21] <simplechat> i'll purge it and reinstall from backports | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:22:30] <Mgk> do you know how to do that? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:22:38] <simplechat> yeah | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:22:44] <simplechat> just puppetmasterd and puppetd? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 06:25:36] <Mgk> puppetmaster will do | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:25:40] <Mgk> if your doing it via apt | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:25:47] <Mgk> i pin mine | ||
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| [2010/06/22 06:26:25] <simplechat> kk | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:26:45] <simplechat> can't just aptitude install -t lenny-backports? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:27:06] <ptman> you can | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:27:46] <Mgk> where is a pastie site? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:28:08] <simplechat> pastebin.ca | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:28:26] <Mgk> ok so | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:28:42] <joe-mac> no, you need to remove puppet and puppetmaster | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:28:53] <joe-mac> you need to axe any cruft that remains too | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:29:09] <Mgk> http://pastebin.ca/1888450 | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:29:14] <simplechat> is 0.25.4 late enough? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:29:23] <Mgk> if you update your apt prefernces and sources to include backports | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:29:23] <simplechat> joe-mac, i purged the packages, so nothing shoudl be left? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:29:39] <Mgk> you should just be able to do apt-get install puppetmaster | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:29:40] <simplechat> debian-volitile? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:29:41] <joe-mac> does a purge also remove non-empty directories? i can't remember | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:29:53] <joe-mac> .25.4 is good | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:30:14] <Mgk> purge removes everything | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:30:29] <Mgk> that the package installed | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:30:32] <simplechat> ok, so 0.25.4 is installed | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:30:44] <Mgk> oh ok cool | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:30:44] <simplechat> ah | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:30:48] <simplechat> it didn't clear my old manifests | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:31:40] <simplechat> but anyways | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:31:43] <simplechat> so whats next? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:32:35] <Mgk> whats in your puppet config? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 06:33:20] <joe-mac> yea, dpkg wouldn't know about those files | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:33:22] <simplechat> err: /File[/var/lib/puppet/lib]: Failed to retrieve current state of resource: No route to host - connect(2) Could not retrieve file metadata for puppet://puppet/plugins: No route to host - connect(2) | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:33:26] <joe-mac> therefore it won't remove the /etc/puppet directory | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:33:35] <simplechat> Mgk, what file should i be looking at? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 06:33:42] <joe-mac> k, sio what does ping puppet do at the cli | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:33:56] <telmich> sar: welcome :-) | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:34:02] <simplechat> nothing, puppet doesn't exist | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:34:11] <sar> telmich: hellau | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:34:13] <Mgk> ok so need to update your hosts or the servername | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:34:31] <simplechat> hmmm, i don't see it anywhere | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:34:42] <Mgk> in /etc/hosts | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:34:50] <Mgk> is where you set system wide hostname to ip | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:34:54] <simplechat> bioe | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:34:57] <simplechat> *nope | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:35:04] <simplechat> its not there | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:35:11] <Mgk> is localhost ? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:35:14] <simplechat> yep | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:35:18] <Mgk> after that | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:35:22] <Mgk> tab and type puppet | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:35:24] <Mgk> write | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:35:26] <sar> how can i set defaults for providers, e.g. Package { source => 'http://gems.rubyforge.org' } but only if provider => 'gem' ? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:35:33] <Mgk> and ping puppet, it should resolve to localhost | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:35:40] <simplechat> Mgk, its already got a name its called mc | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:35:41] <Mgk> or 127.0.0.1 | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:35:43] <simplechat> which resolves and works nicely | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:36:00] <Mgk> ok so if you fire it up now, what do you get | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:36:13] <simplechat> if i add in --server mc | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:36:15] <joe-mac> sar: might have to wrap it in a define called Gem_package or something, or you could try source => $provider ? { gem => "whatever", default => undef } but id on't think that will work | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:36:24] <simplechat> err: /File[/var/lib/puppet/lib]: Failed to retrieve current state of resource: Could not retrieve information from source(s) puppet://mc.orionvm.com.au/plugins | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:36:42] <joe-mac> simplechat: it's well worth it now to use 'puppet' | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:36:55] <joe-mac> you should be setting --certname on the master to 'puppet' | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:37:14] <joe-mac> then you set a cname in dns | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:37:26] <joe-mac> you will at some point come to appreciate the fact that you did this | ||
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| [2010/06/22 06:38:39] <simplechat> ok | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:39:07] <simplechat> how do i set certname? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:39:17] <joe-mac> in puppet.conf in the [puppetmasterd] section | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:39:20] <joe-mac> certname = puppet | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:39:26] <joe-mac> then restart the master | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:39:46] <joe-mac> actually it should re-read puppet.conf, but whereas it will be generating new certs, i would restart to be safe | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:40:32] <simplechat> debug: Loaded state in 0.00 seconds | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:40:32] <simplechat> info: Applying configuration version '1277242894' | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:40:32] <simplechat> debug: Finishing transaction 69823315454240 with 0 changes means that its running? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:40:40] <simplechat> and ok? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:40:50] <joe-mac> yes, that means it worked | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:41:05] <Mgk> congrats | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:41:05] <simplechat> :D | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:41:35] <simplechat> ok | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:41:39] <simplechat> now to work out what its actually doing | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:41:44] <simplechat> don't i need to import a ca somewhere? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:41:58] <Mgk> i you require something, does it have to be the same type? Eg two files, or can you have a file and a class? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:42:01] <Mgk> *if | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:42:03] <simplechat> sudo puppetca --list | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:42:09] <simplechat> (it gives me two blank lines?) | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:42:34] <Mgk> puppet master cert is auto signed i belive | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:42:37] <Mgk> try --all | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:42:38] <Mgk> on the end | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:42:41] <Mgk> as well as list | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:42:43] <joe-mac> simplechat: you don't need to import a ca anywhere, you need to sign certificates, but the way you'red oing it now you won't | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:42:56] <simplechat> ok, cool | ||
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| [2010/06/22 06:43:02] <simplechat> :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:43:28] <joe-mac> well, i anticipate you don't, you will probably noticet he first csr when you run puppet on a node that isn't the master for the first tiem | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:44:19] <simplechat> ok | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:44:26] <simplechat> cool :) | ||
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| [2010/06/22 06:47:41] <simplechat> Hey, is there anybody around here using puppet on centos? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:48:09] <jY> simplechat, i am | ||
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| [2010/06/22 06:52:21] <simplechat> jY, how did you do your install? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 06:52:48] <simplechat> did you use the EPEL? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:53:10] <jY> i did | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:54:11] <nareshov> hi | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:54:15] <simplechat> hey nareshov | ||
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| [2010/06/22 06:54:20] <nareshov> how can i get rid of messages like these: | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:54:27] <nareshov> debug: file_metadata supports formats: b64_zlib_yaml marshal pson raw yaml; using pson | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:54:30] <simplechat> jY, what version of puppet did you end up with? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:55:14] <jY> i haven't updated in a bit but we are running 0.25.1-1 | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:56:03] @ Quit: gebi: Ping timeout: 245 seconds | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:56:26] <nareshov> would they disappear if I explicitly set the file_metadata to pson | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:56:28] <nareshov> say. | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:57:08] <kgraham> are there not canned modules for network interface configs? | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:57:21] <kgraham> (namely, rhel-style ifcfg-*) | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:57:38] <fsweetser> kgraham: no, but the augeas type can work with them | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:57:45] <joe-mac> nareshov: that is fixed in 2.6 i think | ||
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| [2010/06/22 06:58:05] <kgraham> fsweetser: k, that's what I was about to do, was just surprised it wasn't already rolled up | ||
| [2010/06/22 06:58:05] <mdomgo> Moin! | ||
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| [2010/06/22 06:59:03] <nareshov> oh, i see | ||
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| [2010/06/22 07:07:10] <mdomgo> I switched my deployment to puppet via mongrel and apache with mod_proxy_balancer and it seems we now have problems with autosigning of certificates | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:07:34] <joe-mac> mdomgo: what kind of problem,s? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 07:07:55] <mdomgo> I get a message about Creating a new ssl certificate (which i expect) but then i get: | ||
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| [2010/06/22 07:08:15] <mdomgo> err: Coould not request certificate: sslv3 handshake failure | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:08:44] <mdomgo> I followed http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Using_Mongrel_On_Enterprise_Linux | ||
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| [2010/06/22 07:11:17] <mdomgo> We're using 0.25.1 | ||
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| [2010/06/22 07:13:58] <mdomgo> It works normal for old clients so i expect something to break with the proxy_balancer | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:16:34] <simplechat> random question, is there any reason why puppet would recognise a module, but not move the files across? | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:17:33] <simplechat> I have a file called cheese that i want to move off, i get "debug: mount[files]: Describing /files/cheese for" on the server and i get "notice: Finished configuration run in 0.14 seconds" on the client however the file never arrives | ||
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| [2010/06/22 07:18:42] <simplechat> and it knows that it exists, its in the cached yaml | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:20:58] <simplechat> once i touch the file, it goes through and updates properly | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:21:05] <simplechat> but if i don't touch it, it never updates :( | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:23:12] <simplechat> jY where did you get 0.25.1-1 from? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 07:23:21] <simplechat> i just installed from the EPEL repos and it gave me 0.22.4 | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:23:37] <jY> maybe i didn't get it from epel then | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:24:12] <simplechat> hmmmm | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:24:20] <simplechat> because 0.25.1-1 would actually be kind of useful | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:26:01] <dbruce> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/i386/repoview/puppet.html | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:26:08] <dbruce> says 0.25.5-1 | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:27:34] <simplechat> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/5/x86_64/repoview/puppet.html | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:27:35] <simplechat> hmmm | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:27:36] <simplechat> ok then | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:27:37] <simplechat> wtf? | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:28:16] <simplechat> i've added the extra repo before installing | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:28:30] <dbruce> amusingly i was in the middle of yum updating a system from epel and saw it had installed 0.25.5-1 which confused me to no end | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:28:43] <simplechat> ok | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:28:46] <simplechat> this is very wtf | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:28:48] <simplechat> package xen-libs-3.4.2-2.el5.x86_64 (which is newer than xen-libs-3.0.3-105.el5_5.3.i386) is already installed | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:28:56] <dbruce> using a proxy or locally mirrored repo maybe? | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:29:07] <simplechat> using my isps mirror | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:29:21] <simplechat> yeah, it wants to update puppet | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:29:25] <dbruce> maybe time to find a more up to date mirror :) | ||
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| [2010/06/22 07:29:36] <simplechat> any ideas as to how? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 07:29:51] <simplechat> i don't really know centos that well | ||
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| [2010/06/22 07:43:41] <nareshov> man.. | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:43:53] <nareshov> how do I deal with ordering *between* modules | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:44:11] <nareshov> i realise that we declare the ordering of packages, services, files etc. within a standalone module | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:44:18] <nareshov> but what about the ordering of modules themselves | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:44:42] <nareshov> like; "realize the yum module and its invocation first before dealing with the resT" | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:44:52] <nareshov> or "do dovecot before imapproxy" | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:45:42] <nareshov> in other words: how do I deal with adding a fresh, virgin-server and including it under, say: node "NEWSERVER" inherits MYPROJECT-STORAGE-SPECIAL-CLASS-A { } | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:45:57] <nareshov> and expect things to happen in the right order at the first go | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:46:12] <nareshov> it's kind of like, what do you call it - non-deterministic? | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:48:36] <nareshov> unless I find a way to explicitly state that "ordering" | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:54:18] <|Mike|> require require require :) | ||
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| [2010/06/22 07:56:25] <nareshov> so instead of: node "new-server" inherits SERVERTYPE-A { include module-P; include module-Q } | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:56:35] <joe-mac> ahhhh node inheritance | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:57:55] <alcy> Folks, while using debian preseed files to provide custom configuration options for apt, can we provide passwords in plain text (for eg., admin account passwords for slapd, mysql etc) ? (this is a debian specific query I guess, but maybe some debian puppet users might have messed with this ?) | ||
| [2010/06/22 07:58:08] <nareshov> node "new-server" inherits SERVERTYPE-A { include module-Q; Module-Q{ require => module-P } } | ||
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| [2010/06/22 07:59:26] <gm1959> anyone got a link to how to upgrade puppet from 25.4 to 25.5? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 08:10:12] <dbruce> simplechat: we just mirror the epel repos locally, but you may have some luck by disabling the fastestmirror plugin | ||
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| [2010/06/22 08:17:19] <xerxas> Hi all | ||
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| [2010/06/22 08:18:22] <xerxas> can I deploy a link from my puppetmaster that will be a file on the node ? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 08:20:00] <xerxas> let's say module/files/filename.$hostname links to module/files/filename.role , can I have file { "filename" : ensure => present, source => [ "puppet:///module/filename.$hostname", "puppet://module/filename" ], } | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:23:43] <simplechat> just a random question, how do i push a file to a puppet node? | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:24:09] <simplechat> like the file doesn't already exist on the node itself, but it exists and is visible in the puppet master's file server | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:24:16] <simplechat> dbruce, hmmm, ok | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:24:31] <simplechat> dbruce, do you have any good resources on mirroring centos repos? | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:24:46] <dbruce> we use dag wiers mrepo script to do it | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:24:59] <gm1959> simplechat - use source | ||
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| [2010/06/22 08:25:18] <gm1959> or use ensure | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:25:32] <dbruce> not sure if you need to go to that length though; we have about a thousand servers per site that we don't really want to pound the internet when we update a package | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:26:16] <tim|mac> ok, this might be a silly request, but is there a commandline script/thingy with which i can query /etc/services | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:26:20] <tim|mac> and no, grep doesn't count | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:26:34] <gm1959> tim|mac - query how? | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:26:47] <dbruce> getent? | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:26:48] <tim|mac> gm1959: like getservbyname | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:26:52] <tim|mac> getent! | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:26:55] <tim|mac> yes, thanks! | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:27:15] <simplechat> gm1959, thanks :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:27:44] <gm1959> :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:27:48] <simplechat> dbruce, damn that's a lot of servers. What are you building? | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:28:19] <dbruce> oh, they're all sorts of nasty business applications | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:29:19] <simplechat> kk | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:29:36] <simplechat> as a random sort of a question, you wouldn't happen to be using xen? | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:29:47] <dbruce> i'd also say that there is a lot of consolidation that we could do | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:30:04] <dbruce> we've just started along the road to virtualisation | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:30:05] @ Quit: tim: Disconnected by services | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:30:12] <dbruce> but, are using xen for now | ||
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| [2010/06/22 08:30:37] <simplechat> wouldn't happen to be using gluster on the back end of that | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:30:38] <simplechat> ? | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:30:58] <dbruce> nope, nothing like that | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:31:07] <simplechat> kk | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:31:10] <simplechat> :( | ||
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| [2010/06/22 08:31:12] <dbruce> lots of nasty netapps though | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:31:20] <tim|mac> to add some randomness here, we're still using xen at a lot of sites, but I can't wait to switch it all over to kvm | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:31:31] <simplechat> why? | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:31:43] <tim|mac> xen is giving me loads of trouble | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:31:48] <dbruce> some clever person thought that deploying citrix's xencenter here; which i don't really think is an optimal solution | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:31:56] <simplechat> tim|mac, what are you trying to do with it? | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:32:01] <simplechat> hmmm, fun | ||
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| [2010/06/22 08:32:30] <tim|mac> simplechat: trouble like all of a sudden the xm script is giving python errors (Broken pipe) and the only way to fix it is restart the server... | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:33:01] <gm1959> we're using xencenter here. I wish they'd update substantially more frequently and get to a current xen | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:33:13] <simplechat> tim|mac, that's kind of horrid | ||
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| [2010/06/22 08:33:22] <tim|mac> simplechat: exactly | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:33:24] <simplechat> gm1959, arn't they at the latest 3.4? | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:33:32] <simplechat> what dom0 are you guys using? | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:33:54] <tim|mac> also, the idea of having your VMs as processes on your host/dom0 is just... very clean. | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:34:01] <gm1959> xen is at 4.0 | ||
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| [2010/06/22 08:34:23] <dbruce> i just wish that xencenter didn't have all this hacky kernel versioning | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:34:23] <simplechat> 4.0 is testing | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:34:26] <simplechat> very VERY testing | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:34:43] <simplechat> dbruce, more info? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 08:34:49] <gm1959> hmm, I was under the impression it was released | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:34:59] <kjetilho> it's only for people with testes? | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:35:23] <simplechat> it has been released, it just has a habit of horribly horribly breaking | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:35:46] <gm1959> really? interesting | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:35:56] <simplechat> tim|mac, hmmm, doesn't it have a huge speed drop though? | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:36:14] <tim|mac> simplechat: we're only noticing a speed increase, actually... especially for IO | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:36:22] <simplechat> gm1959, or rather thats what happened when we tried it | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:36:43] <simplechat> tim|mac, interesting, have you done any benchmarking? | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:37:10] <fruitcake> hi, I wanted to use puppet to install from a tarball, I've since made my own rpm, but is there a better way of doing it than creating your own pacakge? Just using execs or? | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:37:12] <tim|mac> no, afraid not, but we notice a decrease in iowait and the system 'feels' more responsive | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:37:32] <gm1959> well, citrix has been fairly stable for us, so I guess I should rephrase that as - I wish citrix had a xen 4.0 out | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:37:44] <tim|mac> time to catch a train home | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:37:47] <tim|mac> bye all | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:37:48] <fruitcake> having an rpm install by copying a file and execcing rpm -i that_file.rpm just seems sorta ugly :/ | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:37:56] <simplechat> fruitcake, i'm not sure if there is a nicer way but making your own repo would be the cleanest | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:38:05] <simplechat> tim|mac, thanks | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:38:13] <dbruce> it may be that the folks we've had working on the engineering of the virtual platofrm aren't particularly rigorous | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:38:21] <simplechat> yeah | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:38:37] <dbruce> but they seem to be dropping custom kernels on our rhel/centos boxes | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:39:05] <simplechat> dbruce, ok | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:39:09] <gm1959> dbruce - the dom0s? | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:39:23] <simplechat> so you are just standardising on centos with kvm? | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:39:26] <dbruce> no, the client machines | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:40:04] <fruitcake> simplechat: yes but I won't have time for that for the next while I'm afraid.. | ||
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| [2010/06/22 08:40:31] <simplechat> then i don't see any other way of doing that | ||
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| [2010/06/22 08:44:13] <dbruce> fruitcake: building a custom repo shouldn't take more than about 10 minutes :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:45:59] <fruitcake> really? | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:46:06] <fruitcake> never done it before, not for rpm/yum anyway | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:46:26] <dbruce> pretty much simply install createrepo, and then run it on the directory you want to use | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:46:29] <fruitcake> hm | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:46:31] <dbruce> then add it on the clients | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:46:34] <fruitcake> oh.. | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:46:37] <fruitcake> :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:46:38] <fruitcake> thanks | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:46:50] <dbruce> a quick google shows this: http://www.g-loaded.eu/2005/12/11/local-yum-repository/ | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:46:54] <dbruce> which might help some | ||
| [2010/06/22 08:47:08] <dbruce> you can do the same with an http accessible one too | ||
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| [2010/06/22 08:52:24] <fruitcake> well I'll get to testing that in a little bit. thanks dbruce | ||
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| [2010/06/22 09:55:16] <fluidicslave> is there any way to get a list of all nodes in an array ? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 10:54:55] <blood> i'm trying to daemonize my rail app but i can't seem to get it working. i'm typing 'rails s -d' which shows it creating a listen on port 3000 but notihng actually is listening on that port | ||
| [2010/06/22 10:54:57] <blood> any ideas? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 10:58:52] <_eric> I would suggest using god or some other process monitoring framework | ||
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| [2010/06/22 11:13:49] <lyric> any suggestions on rolling out puppet clients to hosts that currently do not have anything...capistrano? dsh? | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:14:42] <hMz> i wrote an install script that i foreached through the hosts and installed with | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:14:42] <nico> fab | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:14:45] <hMz> for some | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:14:46] <nico> mcollective | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:14:50] <hMz> and then baked the rest into kickstart and reinstalled | ||
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| [2010/06/22 11:18:07] <lyric> ok, I can write a cap task to do it, just wondered if there was a suggested/blessed way | ||
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| [2010/06/22 11:22:08] <bjaspan> Can I have a file resource that does *not* manage the owner/group of a file? | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:24:17] <PhabX> bjaspan: i think you can just leave out those things from the resource. don't say user => group=> etc | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:24:51] <bjaspan> Well, I have a global File settings for user and group to root, which I do not really want to remove. So I'd need to override them to be undefined for a specific resource. | ||
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| [2010/06/22 11:28:21] <hMz> bjaspan: so you're looking for => undef? | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:28:29] <bjaspan> Yes. Does that work? | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:28:41] <hMz> in certain applications, yep | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:28:50] <hMz> ymmv | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:29:01] <bjaspan> I'll switch to using an exec resource to be sure. thx. | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:29:27] <PhabX> hMz: i was trying to find that in the docs. thanks for helping him | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:29:40] <PhabX> didn't remember if it was nil or undef | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:30:37] <hMz> "P.S. undef works fine for owner, group and permissions" ... | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:31:19] <hMz> so google thinks it'll work | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:31:20] <hMz> :D | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:31:51] <hMz> http://tinyurl.com/37z73a4 | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:31:58] <hMz> thats a link to the pulling strings book that talks about undef | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:33:05] <blood> i can't seem to get my rails daemon working:/ | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:33:45] <Kiloman> blood: sounds like a topic for #rubyonrails | ||
| [2010/06/22 11:33:55] <blood> thanks | ||
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| [2010/06/22 11:47:04] <joe-mac> Error 403 on SERVER: Forbidden request: puppet.somesite.com (208.112.22.11) access to /catalog/puppet.somesite.com [find] at line 0 why? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 12:02:53] <cristim> hi, the page http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/plugins_in_modules.html has an error near the end, please someone take a look | ||
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| [2010/06/22 12:40:05] <dan__t> I love puppet. | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:40:06] <dan__t> That is all. | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:41:35] <gm1959> puppet/nagios anyone? How are you if/else'ing or case'ing specific services to check based on node type? are you using 'defined'? | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:43:03] <joe-mac> that revision number stuff where you can call an arbitrary script helped me track down a bug introduced to collectd configs today | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:43:11] <joe-mac> syslog + that, pretty awesome | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:43:21] <joe-mac> gm1959: i don't understyand what you mean by node type? | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:44:18] <gm1959> joe-mac - I mean like class 'webserver' or whatever else I've got defined. I only want nrpe to have a copy of check_httpd if its a webserver | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:44:22] <gm1959> for example | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:44:30] <gm1959> there are a lot of classes, of curse | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:44:33] <gm1959> course | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:44:54] <joe-mac> right, then i include the nagios_service stuff inside the class for httpd | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:45:06] <joe-mac> so when you include a class, nagios checks are automagically set up | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:46:14] <gm1959> you include the check in the class? | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:46:22] <gm1959> interesting. got an example? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 12:48:36] <joe-mac> h/o | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:50:38] <joe-mac> so, ghere's one example | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:50:39] <joe-mac> http://pastebin.org/351825 | ||
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| [2010/06/22 12:51:45] <joe-mac> if there needs to be a passive check it's a little different... | ||
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| [2010/06/22 12:53:36] <gm1959> heh... thats very different than what I'm doing - If I read that right, that's a host check? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 12:54:31] <gm1959> what I was asking about were the specific services unique to a host | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:54:47] <joe-mac> no, that's an exported service definition | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:54:55] <joe-mac> which is collected by the nagios::master class in my setup | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:55:09] <joe-mac> all host checks are exported in node templates, and are just ping checks really | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:55:14] <joe-mac> so every node always gets the ping check | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:55:20] <joe-mac> the default services are in nagios::target | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:55:35] <joe-mac> i basicallty forked camptocamp's shit and changed it to suit my en vironment | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:55:58] <gm1959> check_nsc in this case isn't the default nagios_service_check? nsc means something else? | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:56:32] <joe-mac> nsc stands for nexpose console | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:56:38] <joe-mac> it's a vulnerability assessment tool | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:56:42] <gm1959> k, now I understand | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:57:06] <joe-mac> i just found the one i could think of quickest heh | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:57:07] <gm1959> it never occured to me to nest exported resources. | ||
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| [2010/06/22 12:57:34] <gm1959> you're nesting @@nsc_on<host> inside @@nagios_service. | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:57:58] <gm1959> so you then collect them as <<| nagios_service |>> on the monitoring host? | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:58:12] <joe-mac> no @@nsc_on_host is just a name | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:58:44] <joe-mac> but yes, i collect <<| Nagios_service { tag => "nagios" } |>> something like that i forget the syntax | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:58:57] <joe-mac> i gad tag stuff in other classes to get collected | ||
| [2010/06/22 12:59:34] <gm1959> and the tag => nagios limits the collect to a node that's marked as a nagios host. | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:00:16] <joe-mac> limits it to any nagios_service resource tagged as nagios | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:00:34] <gm1959> I'm gonna need to experiment to see it work... but I think I get the idea | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:00:39] <gm1959> thanks | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:00:43] <joe-mac> i forget why exactly i did, there was a tehcnical reason that i couldn't collect all the objects and needed to use tags | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:01:00] <joe-mac> yea np i'll be around if you have questions, i worked very hard on this setup and it's prettya wesome cept i haven't yet devised a great way to do parenting | ||
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| [2010/06/22 13:01:22] <joe-mac> which sucks cause we've hajd this router that keeps going down | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:01:25] <dballing> so my rudimentary googling isn't finding anything useful. Has anyone written a tool that might run, say, as a nightly cron that would look at the reports on a puppetmaster and generate some sort of prettified output of "what puppet changed today"? | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:01:28] <joe-mac> which means, lots more pages than you need to know something is wrong | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:01:45] <joe-mac> dballing: i imagine someone has done it, idk if it's been released though | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:01:47] <gm1959> seperate question - I want to compose the target nrpe.cfg files based on 'hunks' based on what services belong there - is there something that concats erbs? | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:01:51] <joe-mac> sounds like a good thing to add to puppetforge | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:02:05] <dballing> joe-mac: right, exactly. I feel like this SHOULD be a well-carved wheel already | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:02:10] <fsweetser> dballing: I believe foreman has that capability | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:02:20] <dballing> that I don't look forward to reinventing. :-) | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:02:51] <sking> if i have a package resource that installs an rpm that conflicts with another, but i define the conflicting package resource as ensure => absent, and on the package resource i want to install require the conflicting (absent) package, will that ensure the conflicting package is removed before installing the package i want? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 13:05:57] <dballing> fsweetser: foreman seems like a lot of 'overhead' to bring into the equation just to do what amounts largely to perl-processing a bunch of YAML files every night | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:06:23] <dballing> I mean, yes, pedantically, it looks like it might do the job, but I'm not sure I'm ready to tackle that while I'm still rolling out my puppet install itself. :-) | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:06:27] <fsweetser> true | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:06:46] <gm1959> joe-mac - dunno if you saw my question - is there a way to concat file components? or do I have to do a lot of if/else in the nrpe,cfg erb? | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:06:52] <fsweetser> that's the only place I know of where that wheel s already done, though | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:07:03] <dballing> the situation is: we've just deployed the client everywhere (yay!) but now the boss says "I want to know what changes it makes on the production servers" (a legit question) | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:07:23] <dballing> but we've only had a working puppet install, outside of the lab, for 22 minutes. :-P | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:08:51] <fsweetser> quick and dirty would be to set up tagmail | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:09:00] <fsweetser> then it'll drop you an email whenever it does something | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:09:20] <fsweetser> if you want a little more polished, it shouldn't be too hard to write your own report type that captures the changes | ||
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| [2010/06/22 13:11:21] <dballing> fsweetser: tagmail... does that run individually for every change? (ie, if I change, say, /etc/resolv.conf on 300+ nodes, will I get 300+ individual e-mail messages?) | ||
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| [2010/06/22 13:13:13] <fsweetser> it's per client | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:13:21] <fsweetser> so if you have five changes on ten clients, you'll get ten emails | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:13:44] <fsweetser> each with five changes | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:13:52] <dballing> yeah, I could see that getting ugly for us. | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:14:35] <dballing> Maybe I'll just say fsck it and write something that takes as an argument a report directory and a duration (ie, how far back in time), and let it parse the YAMLs | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:14:44] <dballing> and then release it because that's GOT to be useful to someone else. :-P | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:14:50] <fsweetser> probably, yeah | ||
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| [2010/06/22 13:15:25] <dballing> probably should also have an "expire_before" time-frame, to automate the cleanup of those things | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:15:32] <dballing> since they gather like no man's business | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:16:08] <dballing> something like : report_gen --report_on 3d --expire_before 2w /path/to/reports | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:18:11] <dballing> Something to think about... I got assigned to do it by $BOSS, so either I'll find the existing wheel that does something like that, or I'll be writing one... and if the latter, maybe I can (probably) get permission to contribute back | ||
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| [2010/06/22 13:22:34] <joe-mac> gm1959: not sure what you mean | ||
| [2010/06/22 13:22:42] <joe-mac> you use cfg_dir in nagios and it recursively reads all file | ||
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| [2010/06/22 13:54:28] <gm1959> joe-mac - Well, I meant some way to glue various hunks of a nrpe.cfg erb together based on defined/tags if/else, so that there's not a lot of excess crap in the nrpe.cfg file on the target host | ||
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| [2010/06/22 14:03:56] <joe-mac> i am not familiar with nrpe gm1959 | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:04:03] <joe-mac> i've always used nagios and nsca, never touched nrpe | ||
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| [2010/06/22 14:07:47] <gm1959> ah. well, I'll generalize the question - how would I specify that a file is composed of this file and this one concatted based on somethign like defined(webserver) or whatever? IE - file.cfg = part1 + if defined(blah)... part2 + if... part3, etc? | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:08:32] <Volcane> gm1959: http://github.com/ripienaar/puppet-concat | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:08:34] <joe-mac> gm1959: many people with this problem, many solutions... i personally don't use any so i don't have any advice on it, generally i avoid doing that | ||
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| [2010/06/22 14:09:04] <gm1959> k, thanks | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:10:40] <Kiloman> does content take +> ? | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:12:50] <joe-mac> everything should take +>, but only once | ||
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| [2010/06/22 14:37:12] <sHaggY_caT> Hi all! Is any standart fact to date (hardware clock)? In last versions, f.e.? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 14:45:51] <rmiller4pi8> gm1959: better, just use nrpe.d and drop in a file for each thing you want to monitor | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:46:15] <dan__t> fact | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:46:16] <Volcane> yup, totally the best idea | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:46:28] <dan__t> or use concat | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:46:32] <dan__t> because that's bad-ass too. | ||
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| [2010/06/22 14:47:45] <Volcane> http://github.com/ripienaar/mcollective-plugins/tree/master/agent/nrpe/puppet/ | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:47:54] <Volcane> there's a define and some template to make files in the nrpe.d | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:48:10] <dan__t> You could just do yourself a favor and not use nagios, too. | ||
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| [2010/06/22 14:48:46] <KarlHungus> what is the alternative? | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:49:11] <dan__t> zabbix :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:49:21] <KarlHungus> oh god. good luck ;) | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:49:22] <dan__t> Alas, I'm heavily biased... | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:49:30] <KarlHungus> i expected you to say tivoli | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:49:35] <dan__t> Oh, no. | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:49:50] * Volcane likes monitoring logic on the machines | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:49:50] <mackn> yikes | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:50:42] <KarlHungus> Volcane: same, but that assumes the machines are capable of that, which a lot of network hardware isn't | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:50:57] <Volcane> sure, but i mean wrt nrpe | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:51:14] * KarlHungus also detests nagios, but recognizes it as a necessary evil | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:51:22] <mackn> it's what people use | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:51:39] <Volcane> though i do switch checks via nrpe too | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:51:48] <Volcane> so i can build them via puppet | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:51:59] <Volcane> nrpe call the nagios plugins on a host near the switches | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:52:12] <KarlHungus> hi. i'm nagios. want to check something? fork/exec/fork/exec/fork/exec | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:52:35] <Volcane> heh | ||
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| [2010/06/22 14:53:11] <KarlHungus> thankfully linux is decent at context switching on x86 | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:53:57] <Kiloman> I have a poor dual-core box that runs at a load of 25 thanks to Nagios and Cacti :( | ||
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| [2010/06/22 14:54:36] <Volcane> though: | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:54:36] <Volcane> irb(main):007:0> puts Time.now;nrpe.runcommand(:command => "check_load");puts Time.now | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:54:40] <Volcane> Tue Jun 22 22:54:26 +0100 2010 | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:54:42] <Volcane> Tue Jun 22 22:54:26 +0100 2010 | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:54:47] @ Quit: jdcasey: | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:54:47] <Volcane> calls nrpe check on 44 hosts 3 countries | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:54:50] <Volcane> thats pretty sweet | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:54:55] <Volcane> 4 countries | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:55:02] <sHaggY_caT> Is any good collections of custom facts to puppet? | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:55:27] <KarlHungus> Volcane: that is pretty cool =) | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:56:04] <KarlHungus> is that some custom nrpe wrapper in ruby? | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:56:07] <Kiloman> so here's a question | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:56:15] <Volcane> KarlHungus: mcollective | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:56:16] <Kiloman> can you set defaults for definitions? | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:56:23] <Volcane> Kiloman: yup | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:56:44] <KarlHungus> Volcane: ahh. nice. i like it | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:56:56] <gm1959> guys - if I put a @@nagios_command {"foo"} in a webserver module, will it get multiply defined when there are multiple webservers? or is it only defined when it's collected with <<||>>? | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:57:44] <Volcane> gm1959: you cant do @@nagios_command{"foo": } many times - name must be unique, but you can collect many times | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:58:20] <gm1959> crap. I wanted to put the command in the webserver module. | ||
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| [2010/06/22 14:58:55] <Kiloman> Volcane: one more for you... is require => [ File['foo'], undef ] valid syntax? | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:59:21] <gm1959> rmiller4pi8 - so would that be a source on the nrpe.d? or a require? or what? | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:59:34] <Volcane> Kiloman: not sure | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:59:51] <sking> i created a resource lvm::create, but i need to make it a require on another resouce, but require => Lvm::create[ "name" ] gives me a syntax error… is there something im missing ? | ||
| [2010/06/22 14:59:55] <Kiloman> lets find out... | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:00:00] <Volcane> sking: Lvm::Create | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:00:10] <KarlHungus> gm1959: if $nagios_enable { nagios::service { "${fqdn}-http": check_command => "check_http", service_description => "HTTP"}} | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:00:34] <sking> thanks Volcane | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:01:22] <KarlHungus> gm1959: that is what i have in my web server's module | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:02:18] <gm1959> KarlHungus - yes, thanks. I'm looking at the actual define for the check_command being in the webserver module instead of in the nagios module. | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:02:49] <Volcane> gm1959: if u put it in your webserver module surely it will only happen once? | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:02:58] <Volcane> gm1959: its not like it triest o install httpd 4 times | ||
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| [2010/06/22 15:03:35] <KarlHungus> gm1959: so place the check command in the web server module...? | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:04:25] <gm1959> Volcane - ugh, I must be really, stupidly confused, of course that makes sense. It runs once on one client/node, and is defined once. doh. | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:04:33] <Volcane> :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:05:03] <Volcane> you do need to make them all unique though | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:05:11] <Volcane> so $fqdn-webserver or something | ||
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| [2010/06/22 15:05:53] <hMz> is it possible to undef in a source? | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:06:53] <gm1959> like check_load_${hostname} | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:07:07] <Volcane> yeah if hostnames uniue | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:07:21] <KarlHungus> gm1959: you could, but thats quite redundant. since check_load can take args... | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:07:52] <KarlHungus> you shouldnt be needing a 1:1 relationship between service checks and check commands | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:07:53] <Volcane> KarlHungus: if he's exporting 'check_load' from all hsots, wont the collecting host have issues? | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:08:01] <gm1959> KarlHungus - not the way I'm using nagios. all commands are check_nrpe .., because I dont want to pass args | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:08:13] <KarlHungus> gm1959: ok. gotcha. that makes more sense | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:08:35] <gm1959> so check_load_host is just really check_nrpe --command blah or whatever | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:08:46] <gm1959> and the work is done in the nrpe file | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:09:03] <KarlHungus> sure. i get it =) disregard me | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:09:24] <Volcane> my point was more about unique resource names on the collecting host | ||
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| [2010/06/22 15:09:45] <gm1959> thats why I was asking about collecting pieces of nrpe files together - for excample if there's a webserver component defined | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:10:49] <gm1959> Volcane - so you're saying that the check_command has to be in the nagios module itself, which is only run once per monitoring host, as opposed to the say webservers, which may run for several webservers? | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:12:09] <Volcane> gm1959: i am saying if you have say apache::install and apache::vhost - the 2nd being define to add vhosts | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:12:21] <Volcane> gm1959: you'd probably rather do the monitoring in apache::monitor that you include on a node | ||
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| [2010/06/22 15:12:32] <Volcane> gm1959: you can include many times the same thing, that doesnt create dupes | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:12:51] <Volcane> gm1959: so by all means keep it in the apache module or whatever, and just include it where needed | ||
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| [2010/06/22 15:14:06] <gm1959> so let me see if I have this... in my 'webserver' module I have class webserver, and down below I have webserver::monitoring and I include webserver::monitoring specifically? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 15:15:09] <Volcane> its best if you just show how you have yours set out | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:15:34] <cparedes> anyone deploy a wordpress installation over puppet? | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:16:16] @ Quit: alfism: Quit: alfism | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:16:31] <cparedes> (i'm having a hard time figuring out whether i should just download a raw tarball and then use a tarball overlay with whatever customizations, or if i should just tar up our existing site and have puppet extract that | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:16:35] <cparedes> ) | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:16:57] <cparedes> (or just worry about installing a raw wordpress installation, and customize it on the side manually) | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:17:37] <Volcane> exec{"tar....": } has a special call back to a machine that kills kittens each time it runs. | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:19:03] <tmz> Haha. Something like an implicit notify => Exec['kitten-killer'] ? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 15:20:29] <Kiloman> undef variables evaluate as false right? | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:20:58] <Kiloman> $foo = undef; if (! $foo) { include bar } | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:21:04] <Kiloman> would include bar | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:21:05] <Kiloman> correct | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:21:21] <Kiloman> ? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 15:22:03] <rmiller4pi8> cparedes: code customizations are usually happiest in svn. plus that will allow you to do much more intelligent merges when the original source changes. | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:22:05] <Volcane> Kiloman: make a little test.pp that does a notice() in the if, and run puppet test.pp | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:23:06] <gm1959> Volcane - here's the nagios module http://pastie.org/1015111 | ||
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| [2010/06/22 15:24:01] <Kiloman> Volcane: thanks for the tip | ||
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| [2010/06/22 15:24:35] <cparedes> rmiller4pi8: true, yeah. the one thing i'm running against are a bunch of jpg/png files, however | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:24:38] <Volcane> gm1959: that stuff in lins 8 to 12 will burn you, dont put things outside class {} boundaries | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:25:06] <Volcane> gm1959: but i was more interested in seeing how you build the webserver | ||
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| [2010/06/22 15:25:48] <cparedes> hm. i'll figure it out. i think for now, i'm going to have puppet pull a wordpress.tar.gz file from wordpress.org, and then overlay it with a tarball pulled from one of our servers. | ||
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| [2010/06/22 15:26:09] <cparedes> then i'll talk with the devs and my boss about possibly getting the WP installation versioned in SVN | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:26:19] <cparedes> thanks! | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:26:46] * Volcane 's sure no1 recommended that :P | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:26:54] <Volcane> infact the opposite | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:27:02] <gm1959> here's the nrpe | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:27:04] <gm1959> http://pastie.org/1015115 | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:27:38] <gm1959> lines 8-12 are required to make them globals | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:27:45] <gm1959> or so I thought | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:28:06] <hMz> oh god | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:29:21] <gm1959> Volcane - the webserver module is just a class and some requires so far | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:29:55] <Kiloman> cparedes: that's how our contractors want to do it too | ||
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| [2010/06/22 15:30:04] <Kiloman> that's how they do their multisite drupal/wp stuff | ||
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| [2010/06/22 15:30:46] <Kiloman> pull stuff from drush into a devel site, make their changes, push it into a git master, and then check that out on the production hosts | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:30:59] <Kiloman> I'm not quite sure how I feel about it yet | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:31:16] <gm1959> http://pastie.org/1015120 | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:31:26] <gm1959> that's all there is in the webserver | ||
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| [2010/06/22 15:32:37] <Volcane> gm1959: so why nod to the @@nagios.. stuff in there? | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:32:51] @ Quit: rmiller4pi8: Ping timeout: 240 seconds | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:33:20] <gm1959> sorry? why not what? | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:33:40] <Volcane> you were saying you cant put it there | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:34:34] <gm1959> well, rather than put every possible check in the nagios module, I wanted to put the check command define and the service define in the appropriate module. | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:35:13] <gm1959> you were saying that I could do that, by using something like webserver::monitoring | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:35:30] <Volcane> before i knew how your module looked :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:35:37] <gm1959> ah | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:35:46] <Volcane> thats why i asked to see it | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:35:51] <Volcane> just create the virtual resources in there | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:36:18] <gm1959> yeah, I couldn't see how it was gonna be multiply defined if I just stuck it in the webserver module. | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:36:25] <gm1959> cool. :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:37:27] <gm1959> hmm, no wait... crap. in using exported resources like that, if I have seven webservers, isn't check_proc_http the command - gonna be defined seven times? | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:38:10] <Volcane> once per node | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:38:22] <sking> if i do "define lvm::create() {}" not inside a class, what happens to the namespace exactly? | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:38:44] <gm1959> cause check_http_<node> would be calling check_proc_http.... so do I have to make it something crazy like check_proc_http_<node>? | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:39:21] <Volcane> gm1959: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Exported_Resources | ||
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| [2010/06/22 15:42:30] <gm1959> Volcane - thanks for the help. I'm still not getting it though. I've read that doc page ten times. :( | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:44:49] <gm1959> because the check_command can only be defined one time, I dont see how it can go in the webserver or other node modules. | ||
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| [2010/06/22 15:45:44] <gm1959> I guess it's gonna have to go in the nagios module itself, and the service can go in the webserver module. | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:46:42] <Volcane> you should make the nagios_service resource in the webserver module | ||
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| [2010/06/22 15:46:50] <Volcane> and export it then collect on the nagios box | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:47:01] <Volcane> so for every webserver, you get 1 x nagios_service that checks say its port 80 | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:47:04] <Volcane> 1 per host | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:47:29] <gm1959> makes sense, I was just trying to be elegant with the check-command as well | ||
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| [2010/06/22 15:54:07] <Kiloman> so I hear the fileserver stuff is faster with 0.25 | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:54:20] <Kiloman> how noticeable is it? | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:54:45] <Tonnerre> 0.25 also detects redefinitions without eating up all memory first | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:55:25] <hMz> it has the most performance per watt ever | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:55:26] <Kiloman> I'm hoping to go up to 0.25 soon, I'm just not looking forward to trying to wrangle it on to our old RHEL3 systems | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:55:55] <Volcane> Kiloman: http://www.devco.net/archives/2009/09/09/puppet_0250_upgrade.php | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:55:58] <Kiloman> wondering if there are any fun tricks to play with 0.24 to speed it up in the mean time | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:56:14] <Kiloman> letting apache or nginx handle file serving, for example | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:56:34] <Volcane> Kiloman: u cant do that pre 25 | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:56:46] <Kiloman> hokay | ||
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| [2010/06/22 15:58:17] <Kiloman> hmm | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:58:19] <Kiloman> http://www.devco.net/archives/2009/09/11/more_on_puppet_025_upgrade.php | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:58:27] <Kiloman> my master is already in trouble | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:58:36] <Volcane> more cpu isnt always a problem | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:58:48] <Volcane> using more cpu more efficiently == good | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:58:53] <Kiloman> yeah | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:59:11] <Kiloman> any good links on offloading fileserving with 0.25? | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:59:17] <Volcane> I've not found it to be an issue, but u should run mongrel or passenger or whatever | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:59:17] <Kiloman> I'm using mongrel + nginx now | ||
| [2010/06/22 15:59:22] <Volcane> see masterzen's blog | ||
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| [2010/06/22 16:00:18] <Kiloman> do I need 0.25 clients to do that, or just 0.25 master? | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:00:36] <Volcane> both | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:00:42] <Kiloman> rats | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:00:49] <Kiloman> was hoping to get away with just upgrading the master for now | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:01:33] <Kiloman> will the clients just not use the new fileserver until they are 0.25, or will they break? | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:01:42] <Kiloman> reading http://www.masterzen.fr/2010/03/21/more-puppet-offloading/ | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:02:29] <Volcane> hmm, yeah i guess | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:02:33] <Tonnerre> tonnerre@methusalix:~% yum search passenger | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:02:34] <Tonnerre> taxipilot.x86_64 : Game where you pilot a taxi in space | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:02:37] <Tonnerre> Awesome | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:03:03] <Kiloman> Volcane: which one? ;) | ||
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| [2010/06/22 16:03:32] <Volcane> Kiloman: 24 should use the old one i guess | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:03:35] <Volcane> 24 clients | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:03:41] <Kiloman> awesome | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:03:47] <Kiloman> I will commence to hacking | ||
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| [2010/06/22 16:13:00] <Kiloman> masterzen: ping? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 16:16:22] <Kiloman> hmmmmm | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:16:29] <Kiloman> so here's a question | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:16:38] <Kiloman> I don't have a single directory with all my files in it | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:16:52] <Kiloman> I've got modules/classname/files/ | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:17:32] <Kiloman> it looks like masterzen's config is set up for a single files path | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:18:18] <mackn> that's probably true | ||
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| [2010/06/22 16:20:07] <Kiloman> is modules/classname/files still supported with 0.25? | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:20:23] <mackn> yeah | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:20:47] <Kiloman> k | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:20:59] <Kiloman> I guess I can probably hack a rewrite based on his example | ||
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| [2010/06/22 16:24:49] <eric0> if there is an area with heavy fileserving you can make another mount in fileserver.conf an use that path instead of puppet:///modules/ | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:25:05] <eric0> might be easier than a big mess o' mod_rewrite | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:25:29] <Kiloman> yeah I'll have to see what the requests look like | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:25:37] <z00dax6> Kiloman: hey | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:26:09] <Kiloman> what up z00dax6 | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:26:20] <z00dax6> same ol mostly :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:26:22] <Kiloman> hehe | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:26:52] <Kiloman> rh is keeping busy it sounds like | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:28:35] <z00dax6> yeah, busy is good | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:28:50] <z00dax6> right, I'm off. well past my bedtime here. cya | ||
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| [2010/06/22 16:39:56] <sking> do definitions like "define" have to be included or imported? i can't find anything that describes how they are scoped | ||
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| [2010/06/22 16:44:02] <Kiloman> if they're defined within a class then you have to use them as classname::definename | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:44:06] <Kiloman> otherwise they are global | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:44:10] <Kiloman> that's my understanding at least | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:44:36] <sking> what if i define it as such (outside of a class) define test::definition() {} | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:44:36] <eric0> best to put them in a module structure just like you do classes. if you do, they'll get autoloaded | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:44:53] <sking> thats what i am doing, i am just concerned about the namespace | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:44:57] <eric0> sking: if it lives in test/manifests/definition.pp you're fine | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:45:20] <sking> oh, it shouldn't live in init.pp? | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:45:20] <eric0> you're better than fine | ||
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| [2010/06/22 16:46:02] <eric0> you could, i like to have 'em separate to keep my svn commits cleaner | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:46:14] <sking> gotchya | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:47:22] <sking> what exactly is the difference between a custom type, and a definition? they seem to be nearly the same thing | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:49:59] <Kiloman> custom types are actual bits of Ruby code, whereas definitions just let you create existing types | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:50:07] <Kiloman> think of them as new code vs macros | ||
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| [2010/06/22 16:50:21] <Kiloman> least that's my understanding | ||
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| [2010/06/22 16:51:38] <sking> hmm | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:51:54] <sking> they operate at the user level about the same it seem | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:52:19] <Kiloman> it's quite likely that I'm misunderstanding them ;) | ||
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| [2010/06/22 16:52:39] <sking> join the club :p | ||
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| [2010/06/22 16:57:01] <eric0> no thats correct..define just lets you build up composite actions from existing types - 'macros' is exactly a good way to think about it .. custom types are when there's nothing in the puppet DSL that manages the stuff you care about and you need to extend it | ||
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| [2010/06/22 16:58:29] <sking> gotchya | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:58:43] <sking> so if i define a definition inside a class, must i include that class to get access to the definition? | ||
| [2010/06/22 16:58:59] <sking> (assume the module structure is read into puppet already) | ||
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| [2010/06/22 17:08:21] <eric0> i dunno, try it :) | ||
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| [2010/06/22 17:13:33] <avocado> is /w 12 | ||
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| [2010/06/22 17:17:55] <rlpowell> Anyone familiar with puppet package type on gentoo? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 17:23:35] <PhabX> rlpowell: whats the problem? | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:23:56] <rlpowell> PhabX: err: //Node[tm22-s00196]/Psql::Install[tm22-s00196-psql]/Package[postgresql-server]: Failed to retrieve current state of resource: No package found with the specified name [dev-db/postgresql-server] | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:24:04] <rlpowell> When there most certainly *is* such a package installed. | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:24:21] <PhabX> I was just looking at; http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Puppet_Gentoo | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:24:32] <rlpowell> Yeah, me too. | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:24:53] <rlpowell> doing it like the mysql example at the bottom gets me: | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:24:58] <PhabX> can you show us your code on pastebin or similar? | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:25:03] <rlpowell> err: //Node[tm22-s00196]/Psql::Install[tm22-s00196-psql]/Package[dev-db/postgresql-base]: Failed to retrieve current state of resource: No package found with the specified name [dev-db/dev-db/postgresql-base] | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:25:50] <rlpowell> Sure. | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:25:51] <rlpowell> http://pastie.org/private/6eam74dmck0pc7vmszzcfg | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:26:01] <rlpowell> -- there's more, but that's the relevant bits. | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:26:25] <rlpowell> I think I'll just mask out the ones I don't want and remove the category; that seems to work OK. | ||
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| [2010/06/22 17:26:42] <rlpowell> Note that this is an old version of puppet; 0.24.5 | ||
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| [2010/06/22 17:27:46] <ajeeb> Hello... Newbie questio: How do I "notify" a "service" defined in a module? I tried: notify => Service["ssh::server::sshd"] | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:27:55] <ajeeb> but it cannt find the service | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:28:20] <sking> ajeeb: your trying to kick sshd when you change the conf or something? | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:28:26] <rlpowell> ajeeb: I *think* the thing being notified and the thing doing the notifiying have to be in the same module. | ||
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| [2010/06/22 17:29:17] <ajeeb> oh... yeah.. am trying to refresh or restart the sshd service, while I modify sshd.conf in a different module... | ||
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| [2010/06/22 17:30:08] <sking> i usually use subscribe => File["name"] on the service | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:30:10] <sking> that has worked for me | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:30:20] <sking> i started using notify from the file, but haven't tested it yet | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:31:19] <ajeeb> actually not modifying sshd.conf, but /etc/ssh/banner.txt... maybe i ll just move that to the ssh module... the thing is the ssh module is from example42.com, and thought i d just not modify those externally brought in modules.. maybe I ll just change it.. | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:31:20] <rlpowell> err: //Node[tm22-s00196]/Psql::Install[tm22-s00196-psql]/Package[postgresql-server]: Failed to retrieve current state of resource: More than one package with the specified name [postgresql-server], please use the category parameter to disambiguate | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:31:29] <sking> docs.puppetlabs.com doesn't acknowledge that the parameter exists for file types, but i see it used online a lot | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:31:32] <ajeeb> thanks sking, rlpowell | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:31:39] <rlpowell> -- *HEADDESK*. So it fails without the category, and it fails with the category. That's fantastic. | ||
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| [2010/06/22 17:31:56] <sking> hehe | ||
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| [2010/06/22 17:34:24] <sking> rlpowell: what you trying to do? | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:34:42] <rlpowell> sking: package install on gentoo. | ||
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| [2010/06/22 17:35:03] <rlpowell> Actually, the install is fine, but puppet chokes on checking it later. | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:35:33] <sking> weird, it seems to think you have defined it twice… did you include two classes that define that package name? | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:36:20] <rlpowell> I don't see where you're getting that from? | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:36:32] <rlpowell> THat is: why do you think puppet thinks it's defined twice? | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:36:44] <sking> "More than one package with the specified name" | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:37:05] <rlpowell> Oh. | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:37:14] <rlpowell> That has nothing to do with what's in puppet; gento has more than one package with that name. | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:37:24] <rlpowell> (and this is, in fact, true) | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:37:26] <sking> unless that is more of an error from the gentoo package manager saying there is more than one package in the repo with that name | ||
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| [2010/06/22 17:37:33] <sking> ah ok :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:37:37] <sking> i don't know gentoo very well | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:37:49] <rlpowell> This is, unfortunately, a very gentoo-specific problem. | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:37:57] <sking> i just make fun of it by saying "emerge happy-server" when the server breaks :p | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:37:57] <rlpowell> My work uses it. I have to say I'm not impressed. | ||
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| [2010/06/22 17:38:13] <rlpowell> It seems to lead to far more yak shaving than it's worth. | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:38:17] <sking> we use centos at my work, and i use slackware on my personal stuff, hehe | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:38:30] <sking> yeah, thats my impression too | ||
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| [2010/06/22 17:41:16] <PhabX> rlpowell: thats a weird problem. have you tried not using the category option? | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:41:32] <rlpowell> PhabX: err: //Node[tm22-s00196]/Psql::Install[tm22-s00196-psql]/Package[postgresql-server]: Failed to retrieve current state of resource: More than one package with the specified name [postgresql-server], please use the category parameter to disambiguate -- that | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:43:12] <PhabX> rlpowell: http://log.onthebrink.de/2008/05/using-puppet-on-gentoo.html check out the bottom section (Managing package installations onGentoo" | ||
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| [2010/06/22 17:48:05] <rlpowell> PhabX: Yeah; that requires doing everything *else* on that page. -_- | ||
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| [2010/06/22 17:50:43] <rlpowell> PhabX: Upgrading eix actually fixed it. | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:51:40] <sking> eix? | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:52:27] <rlpowell> gentoo package query thingy. | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:53:08] <sking> oh, hehe | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:53:10] <sking> crazy gentoo | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:53:33] <PhabX> rlpowell: glad i could help even though i just linked you to some junk :) | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:53:38] <PhabX> good reading ! | ||
| [2010/06/22 17:54:10] <rlpowell> THanks. :) | ||
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| [2010/06/22 20:53:29] <kgraham> ...but what's the proper way to force the shellvars lens onto it? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 22:15:54] <viksay> test123 | ||
| [2010/06/22 22:17:26] <viksay> i am unable to run dashboard. when i tried to connect via browser it says conection refused | ||
| [2010/06/22 22:17:43] <viksay> please help me ,,if anybody listening | ||
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| [2010/06/22 22:19:12] <fredden> viksay, connection refused suggests there's nothing listening on that address | ||
| [2010/06/22 22:19:36] <Djelibeybi> fredden: he disconnected | ||
| [2010/06/22 22:19:45] <fredden> yep, just saw that | ||
| [2010/06/22 22:19:49] <Djelibeybi> fredden: but I was also going to comment that iptables is probably blocking the port. | ||
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| [2010/06/22 22:24:38] <rohanpm> can I extend a fact like `operatingsystem' to add more values, without copy-pasting the existing implementation? | ||
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| [2010/06/22 23:34:56] <nico> morning | ||
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