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| [2010/06/25 01:13:42] <johnf> Has anyone ever gotten puppet to use an external CA witout just copying the keys in the right place in the ssl dir? I'm trying to set hostcert etc but they seem to get ignored | ||
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| [2010/06/25 03:54:50] <stalker_by> Someone knows how to get nodes list with some tag? | ||
| [2010/06/25 03:54:56] <stalker_by> for puppet templates | ||
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| [2010/06/25 04:01:27] <stalker_by> :( | ||
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| [2010/06/25 04:14:43] <zoobab> hi | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:16:34] * sdog waves to zoobab | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:16:36] <Xonix> Is the only thing that i have to do on the client to setup the puppet client und give them a master ? | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:17:06] <Xonix> no more configuration needed ? the other stuff happen on the master ? | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:17:38] <nareshov> sign certs | ||
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| [2010/06/25 04:17:49] <cbuckley> hi | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:17:56] <cbuckley> we're current implementing a single web of trust | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:18:03] <cbuckley> we want to push a chained ca.pem out as partt of a kickstart | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:18:18] <cbuckley> but, we find when we run puppetd -tov -noop, that ca.pem is over-written | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:18:19] <cbuckley> :-( | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:18:22] <cbuckley> is there a way to prevent this? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 04:29:32] <gebi> sure, chattr +i ca.pem | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:30:05] <cbuckley> ahh | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:30:41] <gebi> though that doesn't solve the principle problem | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:30:45] <cbuckley> bit of a hack, but yeah, that might work :) | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:31:12] <gebi> (chattr +i is only a failsafe for e.g dirs where mountpoints and such things ;) | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:31:27] <gebi> oh yea, hack ;) | ||
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| [2010/06/25 04:48:51] <johnf> ohadlevy: you about? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 04:56:11] <Xonix> did anyone use Ubuntu 10.4 ? i get the following error "puppet not configured to start" | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:57:11] <stalker_by> someone know host to get list of nodes defined in puppet? | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:57:48] <stalker_by> 2 Xonix: what version of puppet u use? | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:58:23] <Xonix> Diese Anleitung soll eine kurze Beispiel Installation von Puppet ermöglichen. Verwendetes Betriebssystem: Ubuntu 10.4 *puppetmaster:* Vom Puppetmaster werden die Konfigurationen auf den verschiedenen Clients verwaltet. *puppetclient01:* Der Puppetclient synchronisiert nach einem festgelegten Intervall die Konfiguration mit dem Puppetmaster und erstellt im Fall von Änderungen einen Report. | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:58:26] <Xonix> ups | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:58:30] <Xonix> damn copy past | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:58:42] <Xonix> 0.25.4-2ubuntu6 | ||
| [2010/06/25 04:58:44] <Tonnerre> Ich dachte, der Puppetmaster sollte auf einem vertrauenswürdigen OS laufen? :P | ||
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| [2010/06/25 04:59:12] <Volcane> Xonix: maybe /etc/default/puppetd | ||
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| [2010/06/25 04:59:41] <Xonix> Tonnerre: Was ist den bei dir Vertrauenswürdig ? OpenBSD ? | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:00:16] <ohadlevy> johnf: more or less :) | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:00:24] <Tonnerre> Xonix, oder RHEL oder CentOS oder Debian oder alles ausser Ubuntu | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:00:31] <gebi> Xonix: /etc/default/puppet(d|master) | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:00:53] <johnf> ohadlevy: trying to get external CA stuff setup. But just realised I'm running 0.25.4 so maybe it's the CRL problem. pgrading puppet now to check | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:01:09] <johnf> I think I'm going to write a wiki doc when I'm done. This has taken me forever to get right | ||
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| [2010/06/25 05:02:37] <ohadlevy> johnf: I was putting the blog entry on chained ca on hold, at least until it will work with 0.25.x again | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:03:04] <johnf> yeah I'm doing chained as well | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:03:09] <johnf> is chained specifically broken? | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:03:39] <ohadlevy> johnf: yeah | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:03:49] <ohadlevy> johnf: the crl distribution ignores the top level ca | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:04:23] <johnf> but using 0.25.5 and turning off revocation is a work around right? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 05:04:31] <ohadlevy> and that puppet keep on overriding the certs/ca.pem file | ||
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| [2010/06/25 05:05:01] <ohadlevy> the last part is the anonying one | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:06:27] <Xonix> gebi: i have /etc/default/puppet and /etc/puppet/puppet.conf and added to /etc/default/puppet the param START=YES | ||
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| [2010/06/25 05:08:36] <Xonix> Tonnerre: Keine Angst ich richte das so Produktiv nicht ein, das sind gerade nur zwei Images welche in Virtualbox laufen (Playground) ;) | ||
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| [2010/06/25 05:50:26] <tim_> hi, anyone using puppet to edit .bashrc files? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 05:51:03] <tim_> is there a good way to ensure that certain lines are in the file, without affecting people's ability to edit other parts of it? | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:51:54] <Volcane> tim_: so say ou want the line 'FOO="bar"' in your .bashrc | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:52:11] <Volcane> tim_: and you want people to edit it, but that your FOO="bar" is always in effect | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:52:19] <tim_> yeah pretty much | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:52:32] <Volcane> all it takes is for someone to either put before it something to bail out of the file | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:52:36] <tim_> it's actually several lines - some definitions of functions that I want available everywhere | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:52:39] <Volcane> or after it something to put FOO="blah" | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:52:59] <Volcane> and you think \o/ everythings awesome | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:53:00] <Volcane> when its not | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:53:05] <tim_> ah ok | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:53:17] <tim_> no this file is only edited by competent people :) | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:53:20] <tim_> (I hope) | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:53:30] <tim_> so they won't interfere with the stuff puppet inserts | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:53:34] <Volcane> competant people are even better at breaking your stuff :P | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:54:13] <tim_> yeah but they will eventually also be the puppet admins, so will have to fix what they break | ||
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| [2010/06/25 05:54:41] <tim_> anyway is there an easy insert-into-file-if-not-already-there function in puppet? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 05:54:55] <Volcane> there's some line defines on the wiki | ||
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| [2010/06/25 05:56:21] <tim_> ok found something at http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Simple_Text_Patterns | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:56:41] <tim_> looks more like for single lines at a time but I'll see if I can adapt it | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:57:00] <tim_> surprising that puppet doesn't have this built n | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:57:04] <tim_> *built in | ||
| [2010/06/25 05:58:09] <jY> tim_, why not just append a line in your bashrc to source another file you place there in puppet? | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:00:26] <tim_> yeah that might be simpler | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:00:34] <tim_> I'll have a look | ||
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| [2010/06/25 06:11:23] <mbarr> I'm a huge fan of the way Red Hat has moved to using config directories. Makes config mgmt & package mgmt so much easier. | ||
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| [2010/06/25 06:12:34] <_lucid> i need to demo (build proof of concept) puppetmasterd and puppet setup. the proof of concept puppetmasterd will most likely become production. the demo will be somthing simple like changing perms on file. can you recommend version? | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:12:36] <jY> mbarr, you mean like /etc/profile.d ? | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:13:14] <Volcane> _lucid: the latest stable version is always the best suggestion. | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:14:00] <Volcane> mbarr: and makes it so much easier for people to drop stuff onto your server that your management tool is unaware of :) | ||
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| [2010/06/25 06:15:14] <_lucid> 0.25.5 appears to be both dev and stable ? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 06:17:24] <Volcane> there arent dev releases so thats the one u want | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:18:18] <_lucid> 0.25.5 - wgetting it now... ty | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:21:53] <_lucid> looking for the most current facter ... facter-1.5.7.gem ? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 06:34:14] <_lucid> do i need puppet.conf of a one server one client demo/prototype | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:34:22] <_lucid> of = for | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:36:18] <_lucid> and if i do can a redirect the output of --genconfig to puppet.conf? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 06:38:41] <fsweetser> _lucid: you can do the genconfig trick, but be aware that the generated file will also have genconfig = true set in it | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:38:47] <fsweetser> you'll have to manually remove it | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:40:59] <Xonix> Can i sign a IP Address ? puppetca --sign 192.168.0.2 | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:41:20] <_lucid> remove genconfig = true ... reading about that now... ty | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:41:26] <fsweetser> Xonix: the signing process is based on whatever certificate name the client said | ||
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| [2010/06/25 06:41:36] <fsweetser> _lucid: no prob | ||
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| [2010/06/25 06:45:37] <_lucid> fsweetser: is puppet.conf both a sever and client file? | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:45:48] <_lucid> sever = server | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:45:51] <fsweetser> yes | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:46:08] <fsweetser> it typically has three sections | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:46:22] <fluxdude> is there a way to completely undefine a resource in puppet? | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:46:33] <fsweetser> [puppetd] is for client stuff, [puppetmasterd] is for server stuff, and [main] is for stuff common to both | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:47:18] <fluxdude> ie I have a class which sets stuff up and then another disable class which removes most of the stuff | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:47:30] <fluxdude> but one file would like to be managed by another module while having this one disable | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:47:39] <fluxdude> however, this would cause a resource conflict | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:48:08] <fsweetser> fluxdude: typically in that scenario, you would abstract out the conflicted bit into a seperate module, which can be inherited and overriden as necessary | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:48:12] <fluxdude> so I need to completely undefine the resource in the disable class in order to manage it from another class | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:48:21] <fluxdude> fsweetser: that makes sense | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:48:28] <fluxdude> yes I've done that before... | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:48:37] <fluxdude> '13 | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:48:39] <_lucid> fsweeter:3 sections got it.. that is good info... | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:51:37] <_lucid> looks like my 'puppet --genconfig > /etc/puppet/puppet.conf' created on section ... [puppet] ... | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:51:44] <_lucid> on = one | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:52:20] <fsweetser> note that puppet != puppetd | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:52:29] @ Quit: rcrowley: Quit: rcrowley | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:52:38] <fsweetser> puppet is the standalone tool intended to be run manually, while puppetd is the background daemon | ||
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| [2010/06/25 06:57:05] <_lucid> hmmm... for clarity does puppetd run on the managed servers and managing server? | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:57:15] <barn> puppetd is on the client | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:57:20] <barn> puppetmaster is on the server | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:58:02] <_lucid> ok. thanks for that. | ||
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| [2010/06/25 06:59:32] <olly_> i am running puppetd on startup, and i'm happy with the 30 minute check time | ||
| [2010/06/25 06:59:56] <olly_> however is it possible to get puppet to update immediatly after the daemon starts up, as oppossed to waiting the wait time before | ||
| [2010/06/25 07:00:06] <barn> it does | ||
| [2010/06/25 07:00:21] <barn> are you sure your network etc is up at that point? | ||
| [2010/06/25 07:00:51] <fsweetser> _lucid: many people do run both puppetd and puppetmasterd on the same host, though - there's no conflict between the two | ||
| [2010/06/25 07:01:40] <olly_> barn, i think so. it runs as the last item in rc. but let me investigate | ||
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| [2010/06/25 07:02:04] <barn> olly_: if you do a /etc/init.d/puppetd restart, does it run then on startup? | ||
| [2010/06/25 07:03:46] <olly_> barn, yeah it does. must be networking | ||
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| [2010/06/25 07:07:50] <jbooth> olly_: What OS? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 07:09:52] <olly_> jbooth: ubuntu. let me make sure it isn't a false assumption | ||
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| [2010/06/25 07:28:17] <_lucid> fsweetser: my initial effort will be to run puppetmasterd on one server and puppetd on the other | ||
| [2010/06/25 07:28:33] <_lucid> sorry... i just got back from standup. | ||
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| [2010/06/25 07:28:53] <_lucid> thanks again for the clairty | ||
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| [2010/06/25 07:33:16] <Xonix> Could not request certificate http://pastie.org/827557 im using version 0.25.4 | ||
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| [2010/06/25 07:36:16] <jbooth> Search the bug tracker at puppet labs, that one has been going around for a while. | ||
| [2010/06/25 07:36:36] <jbooth> It seems mostly related to a ruby bug, but can be caused by other problems too | ||
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| [2010/06/25 07:38:34] <Disconnect> ..this looks like a bug. and a problem. http://pastebin.com/gwcKAneU | ||
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| [2010/06/25 07:42:18] <Disconnect> oops, not a bug directly (my math failed me) but still. 35 minutes to (fail to) parse the nagios configs it just wrote out.. not good.. | ||
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| [2010/06/25 07:44:32] <_lucid> in a puppetmasterd/puppetd scenario does the site.pp go on the puppetmasterd side? | ||
| [2010/06/25 07:44:41] <fsweetser> _lucid: yes | ||
| [2010/06/25 07:45:14] <olly_> so I think the networking is up. but when it boots for the first time it doesn't have a cert | ||
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| [2010/06/25 07:45:41] <jbooth> Disconnect: Is this the only client talking to the server the whole time? | ||
| [2010/06/25 07:45:47] <olly_> using the default waitforcert (120 seconds) will pupptd configure itself after getting the csr signed? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 07:48:15] <Disconnect> jbooth: when i was using the old (davids?) nagios module, with it's hundreds of synced files, it took under 5 minutes. (but tripped over the resource_eval bug all the time). the new one uses the native types and takes forever to parse the configs it just wrote | ||
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| [2010/06/25 07:51:54] <sathieu> import "templates-$local_site" doesn't work. Also import inside a case statement is always done. How can I do conditional import? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 07:52:58] <Volcane> i dont think you understand what import does. | ||
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| [2010/06/25 07:53:13] <Volcane> what are you trying to do? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 07:55:16] <Disconnect> jbooth: created http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/4076 for it, although it might be better as 2 bugs | ||
| [2010/06/25 07:55:37] <sathieu> Volcane: I have the same set of classes for different customers. But templates differs (they have the same name but different content) | ||
| [2010/06/25 07:55:59] <sathieu> I want to include one or the other depending on a condition | ||
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| [2010/06/25 07:58:20] <Volcane> sathieu: you need to have different class names then, import doent do what you want | ||
| [2010/06/25 07:58:34] <_lucid> puppetmasterd on server and puppetd on client are setup to the best of my current understanding.... when running 'puppetd --server puppet --waitforcert 60 --test' on the client side the following is given; err: Could not request certificate: Connection refused - connect(2) | ||
| [2010/06/25 07:58:55] <_lucid> i am verifing my hosts file settings for the server puppet now. | ||
| [2010/06/25 07:59:10] <sathieu> Volcane: OK. I will then do common classes which include specific class depending on conditions | ||
| [2010/06/25 07:59:11] <Volcane> _lucid: puppetmasterd isnt running, or its firewalled | ||
| [2010/06/25 07:59:40] <jbooth> Disconnect: I just know I observed when the server has to go "threaded" to serve more than one client bad things happen. If your run is getting long enough to get into that territory, compiles could be arbitrarialy long. | ||
| [2010/06/25 07:59:52] <jbooth> (at least, that was true with 0.24 on the cluster upstairs) | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:00:58] <Disconnect> jbooth: er, config retrieval was 2 minutes. its been handling 300ish clients for a year or more. the hang up is while it parses the nagios configs it just wrote. (if i remove them first, it runs in about 10 mins) | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:01:46] <jbooth> Disconnect: What do the catalog compilation times look like on the server? Most of the 10 minutes? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:03:19] <_lucid> Volcane: puppetmasterd does not appear to start correctly thank you. looking at that now. | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:03:47] <Disconnect> jbooth: ...no. its 30 minutes to run with the native nagios types, most of that time parsing the old config. its 10 minutes to write new configs from scratch. the compilation time went from under a minute to about 2 mins (as shown in the bug report) | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:05:00] <Disconnect> (grr foreman hung up, looking for reports now) | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:06:42] <Disconnect> ok. a week ago, witht he mullions of config file fragments: Config retrieval: 211.1905. Total: 291.3151 | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:09:07] <bronto> Assuming the following construct is valid in a class: http://pastebin.com/11X3wXFV | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:09:19] <bronto> why running puppetd --tags release doesn't run the rsync? | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:10:07] <_lucid> hmm.... puppetd and puppetmasterd appear to be up. i was able to --sign on the puppetmasterd server. the puppetd server return several positive sound messages and 'Could not retrieve virtual: Permission denied - /proc/xen/capabilities' | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:10:17] <_lucid> google for that now... | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:10:23] <Volcane> _lucid: you can just ignore that | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:15:23] <_lucid> Volcane: good by me. ty. moving on to the next step; make it do something cool ... i guess i will change the perms on the client/puppetd sudeors file and see if the actions/results of the server/puppetmasterd manifest file match my understanding. | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:19:52] <MPSimmons> Morning :-) | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:19:55] <bronto> anyone can help me with http://pastebin.com/11X3wXFV and why this part doesn't get activated when I run puppetd --tags release (with or without --test)? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:23:40] <MPSimmons> Sorry bronto, I'm more of a beginner than you are :) | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:23:45] <MPSimmons> if you're a beginner, that is | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:24:03] <bronto> MPSimmons: NP | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:24:13] <bronto> MPSimmons: but that's quite strange indeed... | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:24:26] <MPSimmons> I'm having problems with my default node not including all of the classes I'm telling it to | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:25:02] <MPSimmons> http://pastebin.com/1FKFKvgN | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:25:11] <MPSimmons> Only the "iabaseline" is getting included | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:25:28] <Volcane> MPSimmons: do you have node files per node or just this one? | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:25:58] <MPSimmons> I specify one specific node in that file, plus the defailt | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:25:59] <MPSimmons> default | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:26:15] <Volcane> the default doesnt apply if you have a specific one that matches your node. | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:26:26] <MPSimmons> I don't have a specific node for these hosts | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:26:30] <Volcane> k | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:26:47] <MPSimmons> and the one specific file that I do have is indicated like this: | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:26:49] <MPSimmons> 3 node 'sys1b.int.ia' inherits "default" { | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:26:54] <MPSimmons> the 3 is a line number | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:27:02] <Volcane> nods | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:27:44] <MPSimmons> a puppet --parseonly verifies my syntax as ok (and that's a change!) | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:27:57] <MPSimmons> It's like it just doesn't see those other class names | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:28:14] <Volcane> do you have a /var/lib/puppet/classes.txt on the nodes? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:28:39] <MPSimmons> yes, and those classes aren't listed | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:28:43] <Volcane> k | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:28:56] <Volcane> sometimes if there was plenty of syntax errors in the past the master gets madly confused | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:29:02] <Volcane> give it a restart and run --test on one of the nodes | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:30:14] <MPSimmons> It ran fine, but it didn't do anything (other than complain about my ntp hour designation, which I think is unrelated) | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:30:22] <bronto> s**t... I can't get this tag thing work :( | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:30:27] <MPSimmons> so it's seeing the iabaseline | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:30:55] <Volcane> MPSimmons: pastie the output from that --test pls | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:31:23] <MPSimmons> http://pastebin.com/SFG5FpeM | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:31:59] <Volcane> MPSimmons: and show the relevant files from the master | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:33:04] <MPSimmons> the manifest files, you mean? | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:33:07] <Volcane> yea | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:33:12] <Volcane> and node bits etc | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:33:21] <MPSimmons> k | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:35:01] <_lucid> puppetd and puppetmasterd are still running.... i've chmod my sudoers file to be diff than that 400 in the manifest file on the puppetmasterd side... is there another step/setup parm for needed ? | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:35:41] <_lucid> its been 13mins. ; ) | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:36:02] <Volcane> _lucid: run puppetd --test on the node | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:36:16] <Volcane> _lucid: but by default the interval is 30 | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:36:41] <_lucid> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0666, should be 0440 | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:37:10] <jbooth> bronto: There are tag bugs. | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:37:27] <bronto> jbooth: ...and I was so lucky to hit one??? | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:37:43] <MPSimmons> Volcane: Here's pretty much my whole config - http://pastebin.com/AevW5q97 | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:37:45] <bronto> jbooth: is my approach conceptually correct, at least? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:38:11] <Volcane> MPSimmons: lines 9 to 112 | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:38:15] <Volcane> s/112/11 | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:38:22] <Whoop> r/win 20 | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:38:44] <MPSimmons> lines 9-11? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:38:56] <MPSimmons> wait a damned minute | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:38:58] <Volcane> MPSimmons: yup, node default has just iabaseline nothing else | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:38:59] <Volcane> lol | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:39:26] <joe-mac1> hey MPSimmons, doing puppet work? | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:39:28] <MPSimmons> ohjesuddsa!!%!@$ | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:39:47] <MPSimmons> joe-mac1: It's only work if it does, in fact work. It's more slogging at this point ;-) | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:39:53] <jbooth> bronto: I don't know if you were lucky to hit one, but I found simple things like 'tag notworking' inside a class -- said tag is not applied to the contents of the class, contrary to what the documentation says | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:40:21] <joe-mac1> hey jamesturnbull i've had some obsd package provider changes ready to be tested for about a week now, just gotta test them out... but i went to test against head and when i run puppet test.pp i get an error from the new unified command line thing | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:40:41] <MPSimmons> well, jeez, look at that. it works now that I run svn update in the right directory | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:40:47] <joe-mac1> MPSimmons: heh, you will get the hang of it... shortly after the PICC i finished up the puppet-automatic nagios setup | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:40:48] <Volcane> :) | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:40:49] * MPSimmons cries | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:40:52] <bronto> jbooth: hmmmmm | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:40:56] <joe-mac1> works fairly well, just need to figure an elegant way to do parenting | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:41:06] <jbooth> bronto: #3845 | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:41:07] <gepetto> jbooth: bronto: #3845 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/3845 "Puppet - Bug #3845: Resources do not inherit class-level tags - Puppet Labs" | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:41:16] <MPSimmons> joe-mac1: That's awesome :-) If you're looking for a place to host a blog entry, I know a guy ;-) | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:41:39] <joe-mac1> heh, yea my blog got shjut down one month as i didn't update my card info or something and then i never got around to re entering it | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:41:41] <jbooth> bronto: I don't know if that's at all related to what you're doing, but I'd verify your tags work at all to start. ;-) | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:42:02] <joe-mac1> the integration was difficult and probably merits a full doc rather than a post though | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:42:34] @ Quit: lak: Quit: lak | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:43:01] <bronto> jbooth: thanks for the link. Well, what I know is that if I wrap an exec with an "if tagged(release)", that doesn't execute anymore, be the tag defined or not. | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:43:38] <spinr> hmm http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/3922 having that issue as well | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:44:04] <jbooth> If you have a really simple test case, you might file another bug and reference mine. It could be a duplicate of the same underlying issue, but I haven't studied the code that deep. | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:45:14] <bronto> jbooth: well, I'd comment on your tag rather than create a duplicate, if I only knew how... | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:45:33] <jbooth> Create an account or sign in | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:46:13] <jbooth> You'll get an "update" link at the bottom then | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:48:49] <bronto> jbooth: should the account be available immediately? | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:49:02] <bronto> I just registered but can't log in | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:49:22] <bronto> ah, wait, stupid me | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:49:35] <bronto> ok, done | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:50:20] <mackn> hello from DevOps | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:50:26] <mackn> linkedin's guest wifi is crap | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:51:14] <addumb> oh, is it bumpin' over there at DevOps days? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:53:31] <bronto> jbooth: updated | ||
| [2010/06/25 08:54:26] <jbooth> bronto: Thanks! | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:54:48] <bronto> jbooth: thank you indeed. Now let's hope that someone can look into that... | ||
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| [2010/06/25 08:59:50] <jbooth> bronto: It'd probably be a faster fix if either of us dropped a patch on it, but I concluded after finding the bug I couldn't do what I wanted to with tags anyway so it became somewhat irrelevant to me. | ||
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| [2010/06/25 09:00:25] <bronto> jbooth: well, I don't know ruby, so I am not able to dig into the code and provide a patch | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:02:15] <jbooth> bronto: I didn't know ruby before I started in on writing a custom type/provider. ;-) Ya kinda just pick it up. | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:02:29] <jbooth> Honestly it is pretty close to every other scripting language out there. | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:03:19] <jhelwig> jbooth: Especially since it "borrowed" large portions from every other scripting language out there. ;-) | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:03:54] <jbooth> good for them and code re-use! | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:04:46] <jbooth> How much backward incompatibility is there in 2.6? Any? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 09:08:18] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Puppet_Recipes (#6) @ http://projects.reductivelabs.com/projects/1/wiki/Puppet_Recipes?version=6 (by John Miller) | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:08:18] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: OSSEC-HIDS_Patterns (#1) @ http://projects.reductivelabs.com/projects/1/wiki/OSSEC-HIDS_Patterns?version=1 (by John Miller) | ||
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| [2010/06/25 09:21:27] <jbooth> It is always really nice when you've made major changes to your puppet modules structure to load it on a new test environment and have things just work right. :-) | ||
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| [2010/06/25 09:34:36] <kjetilho> You are in a twisty maze. Exits lead west, east and south.. | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:35:15] <|Mike|> :-) | ||
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| [2010/06/25 09:40:51] <Xonix> i looked in the bugtrack and some irc logs but found nothing :( http://pastie.org/827557 err: Could not request certificate: undefined method `closed?' for nil:NilClass my puppet versions on server and client are equl 0.25.4 | ||
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| [2010/06/25 09:42:38] <Xonix> _lucid: you had the same problem like me a few weeks ago :) err: Could not request certificate: undefined method `closed?' for nil:NilClass ? did u know a solution ? | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:43:41] <nimrod10> would puppet 0.25.4 work with ruby 1.9.1 ? | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:43:44] <jbooth> I get 3 bug hits, none are the certificate version though. | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:43:49] <jbooth> nimrod10: No 1.9 support (yet) | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:44:05] <jbooth> nimrod10: I think they're working on it, but I don't know if it is in 2.6 or coming in the future beyond 2.6 | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:44:48] <nimrod10> bummer , all the devs want to use ruby 1.9.1, that will break so many things with puppet | ||
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| [2010/06/25 09:48:47] <joe-mac1> well, devs will be devs | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:48:53] <zahna> nimrod10: you could always package your own ruby, or modify an existing package to install somewhere else. that's what i do. | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:48:54] <joe-mac1> they are like children who want every new toy | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:48:59] <joe-mac1> you must be the parent and lay down the law | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:49:13] <zahna> my devs use Ruby EE. it's in /usr/local/ | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:49:39] <zahna> joe-mac1: that doesn't work so well when one of the devs is also the Engineering vP :) | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:50:13] <joe-mac1> true | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:50:55] <joe-mac1> or you could try to tell him how the features he seeks which are minior time-savers may impact iother peices of the infrastructure so greatly that it is not worth it to adopt brand new softwar yet | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:51:11] <nimrod10> true zahna true I could do that , and I might end up doing just that | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:51:15] <joe-mac1> if you formulate a well thought out explanation and he doesn't listen, well i question why he is the engineering vp lol | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:51:20] <zahna> nimrod10: what distribution do you use? | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:51:29] <nimrod10> ubuntu 10.04 | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:51:40] <zahna> ah, if you were on CentOS, i'd have something for you | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:52:13] <zahna> nimrod10: if you find a good way to manage interfaces on ubuntu (or debian) in puppet, let me know | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:52:42] <nimrod10> what I should do is let 1.8 for puppet be as it is, and install 1.9 in a different location. I'll have to workout how to switch the environments though | ||
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| [2010/06/25 09:53:04] <joe-mac1> network interfaces? | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:53:08] <nimrod10> zahna, what do you manage about interfaces ? | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:53:11] <joe-mac1> i have a pretty good definition/template combo | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:53:31] <joe-mac1> it only does the basics, no vlan tagging, trunking, etc | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:54:33] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac1: if you've found at issue with HEAD can you please log a bug? | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:54:49] <joe-mac1> jamesturnbull: it hink i may have been entering the wrong RUBYLIB... | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:55:12] <joe-mac1> i've got a different issue that is with an 'apply' method something with xmlrpc idk i had to jump off to a router upgrade task | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:55:29] <joe-mac1> i'll keep you updated... you are on california time now right? or you still in australia? | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:55:30] <zahna> nimrod10: on some machines i need to add virtual interfaces, like eth0:1 | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:56:00] <zahna> it's easy on CentOS, with each interface being in its own file, but debian combines them all in /etc/network/interfaces | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:56:01] <joe-mac1> zahna: waht's the syntax in etc network interfaces for it | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:56:21] <joe-mac1> if it's the regular auto eth0:1 .. stuff then my define would work fine | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:56:58] <zahna> joe-mac1: i'd like to see your define. mine doesn't handle that. | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:57:00] <joe-mac1> i'd prefer to get rid of it but one of the DCs, a certain zone doesn't run dhcp... | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:57:26] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac1: PST | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:57:31] <joe-mac1> k, cool | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:57:35] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac1: but currentyl on the world's slowest wireless | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:57:44] <joe-mac1> are you at the devops thing? | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:57:55] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac1: yes | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:58:08] <joe-mac1> man, i missed a whole lot of shit this week... | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:58:17] <joe-mac1> sad part is two big ones were right in boston | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:58:28] <addumb> jamesturnbull: how's devops days going? | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:58:41] <jamesturnbull> addumb: good so far | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:59:10] <addumb> cool. I guilted myself into not going on account of neglecting work all week long at Velocity | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:59:28] <jamesturnbull> addumb: it's not neglect - it's learning :) | ||
| [2010/06/25 09:59:42] <addumb> jamesturnbull: s'true... | ||
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| [2010/06/25 10:04:47] <yakub> which external centos/redhat repo do you all install to get puppet/puppetmaster ? | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:05:24] <jamesturnbull> yakub: EPEL | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:05:33] <addumb> yakub: we use EPEL | ||
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| [2010/06/25 10:05:41] <yakub> do you hate rpmforge? | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:05:43] <addumb> yakub: it's up to 0.25.4 | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:06:30] <zahna> i use epel too | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:06:40] <addumb> oh hey, it's up to 0.25.5 now | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:07:14] <jbooth> I use both epel/rpmforge, but puppet comes from epel. | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:07:16] <addumb> yakub: i prefer EPEL to rpmforge, but rpmforge is still enabled on our dev boxes so every now and again we pull from there | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:07:53] <addumb> I have no ground for my preference, I'm just afraid of change. | ||
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| [2010/06/25 10:10:31] <kjetilho> rpmforge packages newer versions of stuff in RHEL sometimes, I think? | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:10:34] <_lucid> puppetd --test shows 'sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0666, should be 0440' what needs to happen to trigger the event | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:10:41] <_lucid> ? | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:10:46] * kjetilho sticks to EPEL, great track record there | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:11:18] <Xonix> _lucid: you had the same problem like me a few weeks ago :) err: Could not request certificate: undefined method `closed?' for nil:NilClass ? did u know a solution ? | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:12:19] <kjetilho> isn't that a name resolver issue? | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:12:27] <kjetilho> try "getent hosts puppet" | ||
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| [2010/06/25 10:12:57] <Xonix> kjetilho: did u talk with me ? | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:13:25] <kjetilho> who else? :) | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:13:41] <Xonix> nothing happen | ||
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| [2010/06/25 10:14:47] <_lucid> Xonix: i was using puppetmasterd and puppetd on the same server. since that time i have moved the puppetd to a diff server and gem installed 0.25.5 | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:15:00] <_lucid> i don't think i am having that issue now... | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:18:26] <Xonix> _lucid: i use different machines | ||
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| [2010/06/25 10:20:04] <kjetilho> Xonix: nothing happen? in other words, it didn't manage to look it up? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 10:24:30] <Xonix> kjetilho: i wrote my hosts into /etc/hosts | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:25:23] <kjetilho> by default, puppetd will try to connect to "puppet", so that name must resolve using getent | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:26:07] <jbooth> Some days I hate augeas. It has a lens for sshd_config... but not ssh_config. | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:29:11] <Xonix> kjetilho: is there a order in /etc/hosts | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:30:43] <kjetilho> Xonix: no | ||
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| [2010/06/25 10:40:32] <Xonix> kjetilho: thanks now i found something when i type getent hosts puppet | ||
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| [2010/06/25 10:42:01] <Xonix> but i have still the same problem | ||
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| [2010/06/25 10:58:30] <Hypnoz> do i have to define every client in my datacenter in nodes.pp? I can't define block of systems, like web{10-150} ? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 10:59:01] <joe-mac1> Hypnoz: you can use regualr expressions | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:59:05] <joe-mac1> or regular ones even | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:59:14] <agaffney> assuming you're using 0.25 | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:59:37] <agaffney> you can also just use 'node default' and some other method in a manifest for grouping them | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:59:39] <|Mike|> $hostname <3 | ||
| [2010/06/25 10:59:57] <agaffney> I prefer $fqdn, but that's me :P | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:00:11] <|Mike|> you're right :-) | ||
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| [2010/06/25 11:04:57] <addumb> Hypnoz: You can just use 'node default' and figure out where to go after that... maybe read a config file on-disk on the client for a role (web, db, app...) or taking $fqdn and do silly things | ||
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| [2010/06/25 11:05:40] <_lucid> the /etc/sudoers file on the node has not change permissions as per the manifest on the server. puppetd --test on the node shows 'sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0666, should be 0440'. what can i look at next? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 11:06:16] <Disconnect> is it running as root? | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:06:32] <Disconnect> oh. doh. that error isn't from puppetd --test. its from sudo. :) | ||
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| [2010/06/25 11:17:37] <Disconnect> yaaay. that failed parser issue is resulting in it creating 20-odd concatenated copies of the hosts file. | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:17:44] <Disconnect> puppet nagios types are fail | ||
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| [2010/06/25 11:25:47] <rmiller4pi8> Disconnect: they work, you just have to understand the theory of operation | ||
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| [2010/06/25 11:26:52] <Disconnect> rmiller4pi8: the 'theory' is fine. the problem is that it fails to parse it's own output on the 2nd run, then duplicates all the host entries. | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:26:57] <joe-mac1> they have some shortcomings, but i use them with great success | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:27:09] <Disconnect> (and problem 2 is that it takes 30 minutes to read said file) | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:27:13] <joe-mac1> Disconnect: i have seen that actually- on hand-compiled packages on ubuntu 8.04 | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:27:26] <joe-mac1> it ended up being totally the package's fault | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:27:52] <Disconnect> got a link? using ubuntu 10, but.. | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:29:09] <_lucid> looking for guideance ... sudo puppetd --test is showing ' sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0666, should be 0440' | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:29:13] <Disconnect> oh and the year-and-counting-languished puppet bug about file perms | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:29:21] <_lucid> which i believe is a valid message. | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:29:35] <_lucid> since my /etc/users file is rwrwrw | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:29:35] <Disconnect> _lucid: i answered that above - its not a message from puppet, its a message from sudo. | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:29:38] <Disconnect> so puppet isn't getting read | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:29:41] <Disconnect> er, getting run | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:29:53] <joe-mac1> _lucid: sudoers should never ever be that mod | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:30:00] <joe-mac1> your shit will be fux0red if you don't have a root user | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:30:21] <joe-mac1> Disconnect: a link to what? | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:30:27] <Disconnect> joe-mac1: info about that bug | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:30:38] <joe-mac1> my hand-built packages for 8.04? no. i built them by hand. and somehow the packages are buggy | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:30:51] <Disconnect> did you find a solution? | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:30:53] <_lucid> Disconnect: Sorry i missed that answer above... | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:31:23] <joe-mac1> yea, upgarde the master to 10.04 so i get a default 3.20 package... then on the nodes there wasn't enough configuration to hit the bug | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:31:32] <joe-mac1> if i add hostgroups to the nodes the bug will re surface | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:32:04] <Disconnect> ugh. sounds like a different bug - 10.04 on client/server, upstream package, no hostgroups. :( | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:32:07] <joe-mac1> i use 10.04 with the regular packages from canonical for nagiios and puppet, and haven't hit that issue | ||
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| [2010/06/25 11:39:18] <avocado> i'm getting a lot of #<RuntimeError: HTTP-Error: 500 Internal Server Error > on a client and i'm not exactly sure why | ||
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| [2010/06/25 11:40:30] <|Mike|> nice host :) | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:40:39] <Disconnect> avocado: there's a bug about that somewhere, but it was declared "fixed" and has languished since (couple of us have reopened it, but nobody looks) | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:40:49] <avocado> :/ | ||
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| [2010/06/25 11:45:54] <_lucid> ok. diverted a disaster sudoer has the right perms now.... | ||
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| [2010/06/25 11:47:46] <Xonix> when im trying to connect to the puppet master i get could not request certificate: Connection refused | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:47:53] <|Mike|> firewall? | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:48:00] <joe-mac1> yea, i've locked myself out of a decent amount of machines before by taking out the explicit mode setting for the file, from that day forth i never forget how bad perms on some files can fuck you | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:48:03] <joe-mac1> take also boot.conf from openbsd | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:48:10] <joe-mac1> if it has too weak of permissions, the system refuses to boot | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:48:32] <Xonix> |Mike|: default installation from ubuntu has no firewall ? | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:48:54] <joe-mac1> don't think so... well it comes with iptables oviously but it isn't configured | ||
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| [2010/06/25 11:49:09] <|Mike|> is your puppetmaster started / configured etc? | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:49:34] <Xonix> |Mike|: yes started and configured | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:49:48] <addumb> can you telnet to port 8140 on the puppetmaster from the client? | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:49:56] <addumb> er Xonix: ^^ | ||
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| [2010/06/25 11:50:09] <addumb> (that's the right port... right??) | ||
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| [2010/06/25 11:50:32] <|Mike|> y | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:51:19] <n0ts> 了解、明日同じ時間にチェックしてみる | ||
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| [2010/06/25 11:51:34] <n0ts> sorry, I missed. | ||
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| [2010/06/25 11:52:34] <rlpowell> err: Could not create postgres nagios creation: Parameter logoutput failed: Invalid 'logoutput' value "err". Valid values are true, false, on_failure. | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:52:37] <rlpowell> *headdesk* | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:52:48] <rlpowell> Yay for version older than the documentation! Wooo! | ||
| [2010/06/25 11:52:55] * rlpowell is trying to mke his execs say what happened. -_- | ||
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| [2010/06/25 12:00:35] <Xonix> |Mike|: When i start puppetmaster he runs a few second and after thet he goes down and i found nothing in /var/log/puppet | ||
| [2010/06/25 12:00:53] <|Mike|> var/log/daemon.log is the place to search :-) | ||
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| [2010/06/25 12:05:44] <Xonix> |Mike|: there is nothing which can help me is there a debug view for the master ? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 12:06:47] <addumb> Xonix: if it crashes pretty quickly, you can strace it. | ||
| [2010/06/25 12:07:42] <addumb> strace -f -s300 ruby /usr/sbin/puppetmasterd --masterport=8140 | ||
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| [2010/06/25 12:08:01] <addumb> It will be very, very ugly, but shuld have some interesting parts just before it crashes | ||
| [2010/06/25 12:08:15] <addumb> or stops (dunno if it's a "crash") | ||
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| [2010/06/25 12:20:09] <joe-mac1> or you can run puppetmasterd --no-daemonize --debug | ||
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| [2010/06/25 12:39:44] <_lucid> what is the right way to uninstall the os package puppetmasterd from /usr/sbin ... i want to use the gem | ||
| [2010/06/25 12:40:42] <kjetilho> I don't think there is a right way to use a gem | ||
| [2010/06/25 12:41:51] <Volcane> dont use the gem | ||
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| [2010/06/25 12:45:29] <_lucid> Volcane: c'mon man why not? | ||
| [2010/06/25 12:45:32] <_lucid> ; ) | ||
| [2010/06/25 12:45:49] <joe-mac1> alias turd=gem | ||
| [2010/06/25 12:45:56] <Volcane> whats wrong with the os packages? | ||
| [2010/06/25 12:46:17] <joe-mac1> they're not made of fail, and installed in locations that you can actually find | ||
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| [2010/06/25 12:51:38] <addumb> _lucid: the package name is usually puppetmaster ('buntu and centos agree, at least). so just "yum remove puppetmaster" or "apt-get remove puppetmaster". That should get rid of puppetmasterd, puppetca, puppetrun, puppetqd, ... and such | ||
| [2010/06/25 12:51:45] <addumb> but don't do it | ||
| [2010/06/25 12:56:29] * mackn twiddles | ||
| [2010/06/25 12:57:01] <cparedes> just out of curiosity, is anyone managing only a single node with puppet? | ||
| [2010/06/25 12:57:44] * cparedes is writing up a few modules for an openbsd router, which would likely be both the puppetmaster and the puppet client | ||
| [2010/06/25 12:58:34] <Volcane> cparedes: then dont use the master at all. puppet can run in a standalone mode without a master | ||
| [2010/06/25 12:59:36] <cparedes> ah, right. but i mean, i'm wondering if people are running it only in standalone mode? most deployments i've seen are usually for managing large sites, and whenever i do see people manage a single server, it's all done manually without any sort of conf management | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:00:04] <cparedes> (i mean, in that case, it seems like it'd be better to just do it manually, but i'd like to get it setup so that i can apply the same set of specifications, no matter if we use openbsd, debian, etc.) | ||
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| [2010/06/25 13:00:59] <_lucid> does the puppet gem (puppet-0.25.5.gem) both the server and node pieces.. ? | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:01:10] <_lucid> contain both? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 13:01:42] <Volcane> cparedes: i think its worth it, though i dont really do it myself even, generally for unmanaged machines where i dont need it all pppetized i use pupet to manage just a sane base system and then do some hand stuff on top | ||
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| [2010/06/25 13:02:35] <tmz> _lucid: Yes, the gem is not split. | ||
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| [2010/06/25 13:07:42] <_lucid> addumb: the gem appears to be a stable puppet version 0.25.5 .... the ubuntu lucid looks like it is 0.25.4-2 | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:08:13] <_lucid> tmz: thxs | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:08:16] <joe-mac1> .25.4 is fine | ||
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| [2010/06/25 13:08:25] <Volcane> there are debs available of 0.25.5 | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:08:39] <joe-mac1> why bother though when you can use .25.4 from the repos? | ||
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| [2010/06/25 13:08:46] * odyi uses gems on his server and official ubuntu packages on his clients. | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:08:54] <odyi> Works out pretty well. | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:09:03] <Volcane> joe-mac1: if 0.25.4 had no bugs, .5 wouldnt exist :) | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:10:58] <joe-mac1> i don't think always running the 'release' is what i would consider 'stable' | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:11:09] <joe-mac1> i think ti's kind of a bad practice to always be on the latest release | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:11:32] <joe-mac1> unless there's a bug affecting you- or a feature you really really want.. don't really see a reason to go outside vendor repos | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:12:33] <_lucid> man...i am getting caught up in the swirl of gem vs pkg vs version... i am trying to get a prototype up and running ... then i could spend a bit more time honeing in the other attributes.... | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:12:35] <Volcane> joe-mac1: 0.25.x is all stable bug fixes only no feature enhancements | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:13:23] <joe-mac1> there weren't any bugs introduced in .25.5? | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:13:34] <Volcane> not afaik | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:13:35] <_lucid> i am thinking for ease of installation ( and we are a rails shop ) i will try the gem for the prototype | ||
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| [2010/06/25 13:18:03] <addumb> _lucid: if it works for you, that's gravy. it may become a bit difficult to ask for help since so few people are using the gem,... but the differences should be pretty minimal, right? | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:18:04] <Volcane> _lucid: 3 different people told you the gems dont work well. just saying. | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:18:36] <addumb> _lucid: but if they don't work for you, you'll be hearing a lot of "why did you use the gems in the first place?" | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:24:15] <PhabX> mackn: Where are you sitting | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:24:18] <_lucid> Yeah good points ... thanks to both of you. Since the gems are loaded on both server and node, i will try and get that solution running. if that solution is not gravy or near gravy, you comments will be ringing in my head... ; ) | ||
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| [2010/06/25 13:30:09] <PhabX> jamesturnbull: I see you | ||
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| [2010/06/25 13:34:29] <Disconnect> _lucid: fwiw i'd personally do the package for simplicity, but i'm a package fan ;) | ||
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| [2010/06/25 13:42:41] <_lucid> Disconnect: 99% of the nodes will be running RoR apps. My initial thoughts of the pkg was fine for the puppetmaster server. Because the nodes have the ruby env... i thought it would be easier to use the gems.... | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:43:18] <addumb> _lucid: then that may very well be the better option for you, so long as functionality isn't jacked in the gems for some reason | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:43:19] <Disconnect> i'd match versions, and that means gem/package too (since most packages are at least minorly patched) | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:43:40] <Disconnect> yah since puppet understands 'gem' as a package provider you can do either one without that much trouble. | ||
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| [2010/06/25 13:44:08] <Disconnect> we're a 99%-package shop (and 95% of our app is under tomcat) but for the rails servers, puppet installs the gems | ||
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| [2010/06/25 13:45:17] <_lucid> capistrano for the code deployment? | ||
| [2010/06/25 13:47:49] <_lucid> match versions.. makes sense. ty | ||
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| [2010/06/25 14:01:16] <jbooth> Why does your desktop hardware always choose friday afternoon to die? | ||
| [2010/06/25 14:02:15] <fsweetser> probably the same reason gadgets always start acting flakey as soon as you start looking at upgrades... | ||
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| [2010/06/25 14:18:35] <Disconnect> jbooth: personally, when my desktops (well, mostly laptops) die i blame my wif for being mad at me. she's got the power to corrupt data and break stuff, its kinda scary. | ||
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| [2010/06/25 18:12:58] <jetole> Does anyone know how I can have a service require a package to be installed first and a file to exist? I tried using require twice for the service but it didn't appreciate the duplicate | ||
| [2010/06/25 18:13:58] <jetole> nevermind. Found the answer: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How+Can+I+Require+Multiple+Resources+Simultaneously? | ||
| [2010/06/25 18:20:38] <jetole> ok, new question. Puppet seems to be constantly starting spamassassin on one host and as far as I can tell it's returning the proper exit status when queried which is 0 if spamd is running and 4 if it is not | ||
| [2010/06/25 18:22:08] <jetole> spamassassin and clamav | ||
| [2010/06/25 18:22:14] <jetole> both are having this effect | ||
| [2010/06/25 18:22:27] <jetole> and both are returning LSB defined exit codes | ||
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| [2010/06/25 18:28:49] <duritong> jetole: did you set hasstatus? | ||
| [2010/06/25 18:28:57] <duritong> because hasstatus is by default to false | ||
| [2010/06/25 18:29:38] <duritong> jetole: and if it is set to false it will look for a process running called $name | ||
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| [2010/06/25 18:33:45] <jetole> duritong: Thanks. No I didn't and I am going to google that now. I read http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Why+does+Puppet+keep+trying+to+start+a+running+service? and somehow skipped where it said hasstatus. Brain fart or something | ||
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| [2010/06/25 18:35:32] <jetole> duritong: is hasstatus a booleon where I can do hasstatus => yes or hasstatus => true | ||
| [2010/06/25 18:35:37] <duritong> true | ||
| [2010/06/25 18:35:42] <cparedes> yes | ||
| [2010/06/25 18:35:45] <cparedes> :P | ||
| [2010/06/25 18:35:51] <jetole> thanks | ||
| [2010/06/25 18:36:12] <jetole> I read this now but it didn't say: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/stable/type.html#hasstatus | ||
| [2010/06/25 18:38:43] <jetole> ah thanks guys. That worked beautifully. I stopped both services and ran puppetd and it started them. I ran puppetd again and it didn't | ||
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| [2010/06/25 23:18:17] <jetole> Does anyone know what this means? notice: //dovecot-mta/File[/etc/dovecot]/checksum: checksum changed '{mtime}Wed Jun 09 14:32:30 -0400 2010' to '{mtime}Sat Jun 26 02:15:41 -0400 2010' | ||
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