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| [2010/07/18 00:14:26] <madduck> fenris02: yeah, but I'd like not to have to maintain a list of files in two places | ||
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| [2010/07/18 01:09:40] <schimmi> Hi! Looking for a consultant or instructor in the Frankfurt/Germany area who is experienced in large scale puppet deployment. Feel free to get in contact with me via private chat. | ||
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| [2010/07/18 07:11:59] <vdc2> hi all | ||
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| [2010/07/18 09:38:17] <madduck> gotta love puppet's error messages: | ||
| [2010/07/18 09:38:19] <madduck> puppetd[12922]: Could not run Puppet configuration client: Parameter require failed: No title provided and "" is not a valid resource reference | ||
| [2010/07/18 09:38:23] <madduck> so, what does it /mean/? | ||
| [2010/07/18 09:39:40] <madduck> debug output is also amazingly helpful: http://slexy.org/view/s2THmGslcK | ||
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| [2010/07/18 09:55:57] <jamesturnbull> madduck: version? | ||
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| [2010/07/18 09:58:20] <madduck> 0.25.5 | ||
| [2010/07/18 09:58:23] <madduck> jamesturnbull: ^ | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:03:32] <madduck> meh! | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:03:57] <madduck> i thought i could use the train ride to work on my todo list on my laptop, not have to spend hours to make puppet even work. :( | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:05:52] <jamesturnbull> madduck: well there's a unhealthy require statement somewhere is my first thought - though I've not seen that error on .5 before | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:08:25] <madduck> jamesturnbull: now it suddenly started working | ||
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| [2010/07/18 10:08:40] <madduck> serioulsy, without a change. | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:08:42] <madduck> \o/ | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:08:43] <jamesturnbull> madduck: I was thinking happy thought about you | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:08:45] <madduck> not even a restart | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:08:47] <jamesturnbull> madduck: perhaps that helped? | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:08:52] <madduck> a HAPPY THOUGHT? ;) | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:09:00] <madduck> like that i might not make it to hobart? | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:09:03] <jamesturnbull> yeah I was to limit my quota of happy thoughts | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:09:11] <jamesturnbull> s/was/have/ | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:09:53] <madduck> ah, now the error is back | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:10:04] <madduck> it does seem related to a mdoule. | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:10:06] <madduck> :( | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:11:12] <jamesturnbull> madduck: so there will be bad require => statement somewhere I think | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:11:18] <jamesturnbull> a typo most likely | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:12:14] <jamesturnbull> and i know - the error isn't great - we're working on that - the 2.6.0 release fixes some cryptic error messages and others will be fixed as we iterate through the 2.6.x releases | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:12:47] <madduck> i think i found the problem | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:14:03] <madduck> nope./ :( | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:15:19] <madduck> no require statement with a problem… | ||
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| [2010/07/18 10:25:05] <madduck> it's totally erratic: i comment out large parts of the module in question (the problem goes away if i don't include it), and the problem goes away, then i uncomment resources until it comes back | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:25:50] <madduck> and then i undo the last step, and the problem might persist | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:26:07] <madduck> between every change, i restart the puppetmaster and rerun puppetd -o --no-daemonize by hand | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:29:42] <madduck> ohn MAN! | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:29:51] <madduck> i really would like to start using puppet! | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:36:41] <madduck> this seems entirely client-side, the server seems totally hapy | ||
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| [2010/07/18 10:49:47] <madduck> alright, fixed | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:50:03] <madduck> i /think/ it's due because facter on this host returns Debian and on all other hosts, it returns debian | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:50:05] <schimmi> what was the problem? | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:51:03] <madduck> yeah, looks like it | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:51:47] <madduck> require takes an array | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:51:53] <madduck> and one entry is | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:51:53] <madduck> $operatingsystem ? { | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:51:54] <madduck> /debian|ubuntu/ => File["/etc/default/puppet"], | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:51:54] <madduck> default => "", | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:51:54] <madduck> }, | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:52:49] <madduck> unfortunately, i don't know wha else to put there; nil and undef also don't work | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:52:49] <madduck> jam an empr | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:52:52] <madduck> oops | ||
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| [2010/07/18 10:53:00] <madduck> jamesturnbull: an empty require should really work… | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:53:11] <madduck> i mean, it's not nice, but unless there is another way to do the above… | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:53:50] <madduck> and facter/puppet really should be case-insensitive, no? | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:53:57] <madduck> or at least agree on whether it's Debian or debian | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:54:02] <madduck> between version | ||
| [2010/07/18 10:54:03] <madduck> s | ||
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| [2010/07/18 11:05:06] <madduck> and i am REALLY disillusioned that lak didn't call puppetmasterd master-of-puppets | ||
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| [2010/07/18 11:37:09] <yakub> he didnt grow up under the bleachers at your junior high school | ||
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| [2010/07/18 11:53:50] <warreng> if i have a file { "/a/b/c/d": content "foo" }, is there a way to force that to create the directories /a/b/c (i.e. mkdir -p) ? | ||
| [2010/07/18 11:54:12] <warreng> other than also having explicit "ensure => directory" resources for /a, /a/b, /a/b/c ? | ||
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| [2010/07/18 13:13:11] <marut> warreng: it looks like the relevant discussion is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/86 | ||
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| [2010/07/18 13:18:23] <nico> "for a while" | ||
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| [2010/07/18 13:18:32] <nico> a big one | ||
| [2010/07/18 13:19:02] <lisa> mkdir_p \o/ | ||
| [2010/07/18 13:20:38] <warreng> ya, there's definitely some dependency issues too... | ||
| [2010/07/18 13:21:22] <warreng> like if i want a file to rely on on the existence of a /a/b i'd use File['/a/b'] but if that /a/b is automatic because of /a/b/c/d, how do i define that dependency? | ||
| [2010/07/18 13:22:04] <lisa> honestly i'd close it WONTFIX. Puppet sholdn't be guessing on permissions for parent directories | ||
| [2010/07/18 13:22:29] <lisa> but it's also not my project ;) | ||
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| [2010/07/18 13:26:15] <fenris02> _shrugs_ i'd have it obey umask, like 'mkdir -p' does, but then again - i've not run into that situation yet. | ||
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| [2010/07/18 15:22:03] <fenris02> Starting foreman: /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems.rb:779:in `report_activate_error': RubyGem version error: rack(1.1.0 not ~> 1.0.1) (Gem::LoadError) | ||
| [2010/07/18 15:22:14] <fenris02> any way to make foreman work with rack 1.1? | ||
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| [2010/07/18 15:34:21] <__mhgold> Hi... is there a way I can allow my entire /etc/puppet directory be a symlink without puppetmaster clobbering it with an empty directory when I restart the service? | ||
| [2010/07/18 15:35:24] <__mhgold> bug 650 seems to be related to this issue (http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/650) and it suggests setting manage_internal_file_permissions=false in puppet.conf, but that doesn't seem to make a difference | ||
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| [2010/07/18 18:49:10] <jschairb> i'm struggling to find really clear examples about managing human users. should i be using the virt_users technique i read in the puppet book? | ||
| [2010/07/18 18:50:32] <fenris02> do they match this link? http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Puppet_Best_Practice | ||
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| [2010/07/18 18:53:32] <jschairb> fenris02: i guess it's similar, but i don't think i can use a custom definition to build these users | ||
| [2010/07/18 18:54:28] <jschairb> for example, how do ensure that the .ssh/authorized_keys file has their public attached in it using that method? | ||
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| [2010/07/18 19:00:28] <fenris02> something like this? http://fpaste.org/jqqC/ | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:02:04] <jschairb> fenris02: yes, absolutely. can I use that definition w/ virt_users where i'm supposed to assign it to an instance variable like: @user { "myuser": ...} | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:02:33] <jschairb> i'm really trying to stick to the recommended practices | ||
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| [2010/07/18 19:08:50] <fenris02> i dont see why not? | ||
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| [2010/07/18 19:11:12] <jschairb> fenris02: it looks something like this then? http://fpaste.org/aHoH/ | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:12:25] <fenris02> erm, i dont think so. you likely want the '@' on line 4 of the fpaste i gave above | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:12:43] <fenris02> then copy unixadmins.pp from the BCP link above that | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:12:56] <jschairb> i see, thank you, i'll give that a try | ||
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| [2010/07/18 19:20:11] <ohadlevy> fenris02: i think that rack 1.0.1 is a hard requirement from rails, you can install both rack versions | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:20:53] <fenris02> ohadlevy, i see. problem is that i dont have a packaged rack-1.0 (i think) | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:21:09] <ohadlevy> fenris02: deb or rpm? | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:21:17] <fenris02> fedora 13 / rpm | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:21:58] <ohadlevy> fenris02: I'm not sure if you can install an older rack at the same time (but I have one), or just use the gem command (you can even run it as the same user which runs foreman, so you dont have to install it system wide) | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:22:16] <ohadlevy> fenris02: I think that I'll simply bundle rack next foreman release | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:22:46] <fenris02> ohadlevy, any eta on $next_rev ? | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:23:06] <ohadlevy> fenris02: not yet, I'm really busy these days as I'm in the process of moving countries :-\ | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:23:21] <fenris02> ohadlevy, sounds fun, is the move a good thing? | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:23:33] <ohadlevy> fenris02: there are some bug fixes, so maybe a small release | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:23:49] <ohadlevy> fenris02: yeah, hopefully better job ;) and going home after a 6 years | ||
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| [2010/07/18 19:24:24] <fenris02> nice! | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:25:05] <jschairb> fenris02: so in class user:virtual instead of the normal definition( @user {"foo"}), i would simply do user_mgmt(*args) | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:28:14] <fenris02> ohadlevy, how massive of a port is it to use rack-1.1 anyhow? (I know absolutely nothing about it, just asking) | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:28:53] <ohadlevy> fenris02: I dont know either, i think its a requirement by rails (the framework used to build foreman), and most likely I would need to update the rails version | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:31:03] <fenris02> packages are easier to get into distros if they are unbundled. i have rails-2.3.5 already | ||
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| [2010/07/18 19:32:51] <ohadlevy> fenris02: yeah, I know, it might be possible to use the spec and unbundle for f13, but all other distributions I dont think its possible @tmz and I had talked a lot of it in the past... I think at first, you need to allow rpm to install multiple versions of gems, (e.g. have multiple rails versions) before we could unbundle things | ||
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| [2010/07/18 19:34:29] <fenris02> ohadlevy, normally, you could create your package as 'name = rubygem-rack101' or somesuch to avoid conflict, then 'Require' rack101. makes for a dozen packages instead of one, but easier to install | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:35:02] <ohadlevy> fenris02: do you have some time to play with the spec file? ;) | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:35:29] <ohadlevy> fenris02: btw: do you use foreman with kickstart integration as well? | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:35:33] <fenris02> ohadlevy, i think i need more than a week of "ruby experience" (if you call playing with puppet related) | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:35:52] <fenris02> ohadlevy, right now, i dont use foreman at all. error above. | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:36:08] <ohadlevy> fenris02: if you know your way around spec files, I dont think it makes much difference :) | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:36:18] <ohadlevy> fenris02: if you want a quick and dirty solution, gem install rack -v 1.0.1 | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:36:30] <ohadlevy> fenris02: or downgrade the rpm | ||
| [2010/07/18 19:36:39] * fenris02 nods | ||
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| [2010/07/18 20:36:52] @ Mode +o jamesturnbull by ChanServ | ||
| [2010/07/18 20:37:00] @ jamesturnbull set topic "Puppet 2.6.0rc4 released! | Puppet Dashboard 1.0.1 released! http://tinyurl.com/2b2gzc5 | Puppet Labs wants an Ops Engineer - http://bit.ly/cjroPr | http://docs.puppetlabs.com | Bugs & Feature Requests: http://bit.ly/ddjhPk" | ||
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| [2010/07/18 21:12:35] <fenris02> spiffy :) | ||
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| [2010/07/18 21:14:13] <scooby2> rc4, dang I just installed rc3 | ||
| [2010/07/18 21:17:35] <jamesturnbull> scooby2: we move fast here :) | ||
| [2010/07/18 21:24:08] <fenris02> does 'node default {}' get applied to every node, or just the ones that do not have a more specific 'node hostname {}' ? | ||
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| [2010/07/18 21:45:58] <jamesturnbull> fenris02: only those without a node definition | ||
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