| [2010/07/26 00:13:32] @ Log started by gepetto | ||
| [2010/07/26 00:13:32] <Dantman> Is it possible to have a case like say: You have a php class which installs php deps, and a mysql class which installs the mysql server... both can be part of a node separately, but if you include both php and mysql you get an extra dependency that also installs the php-mysql driver? | ||
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| [2010/07/26 00:23:02] <ohadlevy> Dantman: you can use tags etc, but really, just create a third class :) | ||
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| [2010/07/26 01:58:25] <sdog> fighting with certs again .. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 02:03:06] <henk> i'm trying to install mysql via puppet on debian. i have a responsefile which seems to cause a problem: i do not set a password for mysql-root on debconf. that works fine when i install manually, but there is just some password set, when puppet installs mysql... | ||
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| [2010/07/26 02:32:17] <hggh> henk: switch your debconf to Frontend = noninteractive | ||
| [2010/07/26 02:32:53] <henk> hggh: why should i? that's pretty inconvenient... | ||
| [2010/07/26 02:34:44] <abien> I need some advice on how to tackle this problem with puppet and where to read up on the required logics. | ||
| [2010/07/26 02:34:56] <abien> Explanation here: http://ruby.pastebin.com/tr9fFcEV | ||
| [2010/07/26 02:35:41] <henk> abien: i assume s/now/not/? | ||
| [2010/07/26 02:36:49] <abien> ah yes | ||
| [2010/07/26 02:37:03] <henk> where do you want to change then? o_O | ||
| [2010/07/26 02:38:37] <abien> i was thinking something like "define { service1; host=127.0.0.1, port= }" should be possible in the nodes definintion | ||
| [2010/07/26 02:39:02] <henk> which is also a manifest... | ||
| [2010/07/26 02:39:28] <abien> ah yes. true. Well i mean i wouldnt want to change the module. perhaps thats more clear? | ||
| [2010/07/26 02:39:52] <henk> yes | ||
| [2010/07/26 02:41:53] <hal-j1> abien: hard to give a good answer without knowing anything about the service. Does it require changes to that config file to add a new instance? can you drop multiple configs into a ".d" directory? Would you be able to write some config building code that could build a config from a .d directory? | ||
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| [2010/07/26 02:42:28] <hal-j1> does the config file support any type of "include", allowing you to include sub-config files? | ||
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| [2010/07/26 02:46:45] <henk> i want a service to be running or stopped based on the result of an exec. is that possible? | ||
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| [2010/07/26 02:59:50] <abien> henk: i guess with hackish exec {} / unless stuff - but not with service {} | ||
| [2010/07/26 03:01:58] <abien> hal-j1: I updated the pastebin to reflect the questions: http://ruby.pastebin.com/nSfGZ5rD | ||
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| [2010/07/26 03:16:01] <hal-j> so wait, you can drop a serviceN.conf in /etc for each instance of the service? | ||
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| [2010/07/26 03:23:34] <hal-j> if so, make a template using variable replacement for anything that's configurable, write a define that has params and then create teh file with content => template(path.to.erb) | ||
| [2010/07/26 03:23:45] <hal-j> naming the file something based on $name | ||
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| [2010/07/26 03:26:09] <abien> id like to read up on the "write a define that has params" part. I have not yet had to mess with define at all | ||
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| [2010/07/26 03:28:27] <hal-j> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/language_tutorial.html#definitions | ||
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| [2010/07/26 03:40:36] <abien> allright thanks :P | ||
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| [2010/07/26 03:47:15] <DbT_> Hi all | ||
| [2010/07/26 03:47:46] <DbT_> we are having problems with exec: 1) the command returns non-zero exit code 2) logging seems broken. We are running a command (svn co) as non-root user | ||
| [2010/07/26 03:47:52] <DbT_> Any clues to debugging this? | ||
| [2010/07/26 03:47:59] <DbT_> we checked the path | ||
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| [2010/07/26 03:56:03] <vad3R> member:DbT_: 1) Use "returns" in your exec; 2) What's wrong with logging? | ||
| [2010/07/26 03:57:14] <vad3R> from the type reference: USER - The user to run the command as. Note that if you use this then any error output is not currently captured. This is because of a bug within Ruby. If you are using Puppet to create this user, the exec will automatically require the user, as long as it is specified by name. | ||
| [2010/07/26 03:59:57] <DbT_> vad3R: 2) yes, I read this, but did not fully understand; so logging is broken for non-root. 1) what do you mean with returns? | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:00:00] <dcarley> DbT_> is the non-zero exit code a desired result? if so, you can specify an array of expected return codes with `returns`. | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:00:22] <DbT_> dcarley: no, the non-zero is unexpected; when run from command line it works and returns 0 | ||
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| [2010/07/26 04:02:56] <dcarley> DbT_> does the command look as you'd expect if you run the agent with `--debug --trace`? | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:03:18] <DbT_> We have also found http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/browse_thread/thread/c8be4819722a748d and added 'env -i' and then it does work | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:03:26] <vad3R> So you should find out why you get a non zero return code. What happens if you run the command manually as non root user? | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:04:03] <DbT_> vad3R: it works and returns 0 | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:04:22] <DbT_> vad3R: when we do run it as root the exec works | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:04:40] <DbT_> vad3R: and when we run it as non-root user, the logging is broken so we cannot see what the problem is | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:06:14] <vad3R> DbT_: | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:06:26] <vad3R> DbT_: What about putting your command in a seperate script and run the script in your exec. Then you can control where your output goes within the script | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:07:07] <DbT_> vad3R: we did. Unfortunately, the script fails in the same way as the command and the logging redirection does not work | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:07:19] <DbT_> it simply does not create the log file | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:08:11] <vad3R> your exec is only /xxX/yyy.sh and within the script you do something like "svn xxx bla bla bla >>/tmp/script.log"? | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:09:06] <DbT_> yep | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:10:01] <vad3R> when you initalize your logfile at the beginning of the script you still dont see the log? | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:10:37] <DbT_> http://pastebin.com/HiTUVx80 | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:10:45] <DbT_> going to grab some lunch, be back in 30 | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:10:51] <DbT_> thanx so far! | ||
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| [2010/07/26 04:23:19] <hal-j> you may need to tack —non-interactive onto the svn command | ||
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| [2010/07/26 04:25:21] <anderbubble> (having just upgraded to 2.6) I am seeing different behavior between the agent running on the master node and the rest of the agents: the logging is quite different (including lots of "info: Automatically imported <blah>" lines) but, more importantly, it complains about "warning: You cannot collect without storeconfigs being set" even though storeconfigs=true in the [agent] section of puppet.conf | ||
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| [2010/07/26 04:29:26] <vad3R> anderbubble: Pretty sure that storeconfigs dont belong to agent section. at least < 2.6 | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:29:47] <anderbubble> vad3r: my mistake. I meant the [master] section. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 04:31:01] <anderbubble> For the record: http://pastebin.com/nLZu9zrf (puppet.conf) | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:32:27] <DbT_> vad3R: I'm back | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:32:56] <vad3R> DbT_: Can you post your exec definition? | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:33:16] <DbT_> vad3R: just a sec | ||
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| [2010/07/26 04:37:20] <DbT_> vad3R: http://pastebin.com/iQeFPtwc | ||
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| [2010/07/26 04:39:25] <vad3R> DbT_: Logoutput will not work as mentioned earlier; Is auth required to checkout or is a client cert required? | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:39:30] <hggh> henk: you need the noninteractive also for java jre installation | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:40:19] <henk> hggh: i don't think i do... totally apart from me not using java. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 04:41:16] <hggh> henk: package installation with puppet is noninteractive, so switch debconf to noninteractive and it will work | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:41:35] <alcy> folks, is it possible to send custom options with aptitude ? | ||
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| [2010/07/26 04:42:00] <hggh> henk: you can preselect the answers for debconf with an custom debconf database | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:42:30] <henk> hggh: it is noninteractive, but i'm not motivated to reset it to 'Dialog' whenever i _manually_ install something... | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:43:02] <hggh> henk: ehm? why do you want to install manually?¿ | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:44:49] <henk> hggh: hu? just because i use puppet that doesn't mean i ONLY use puppet to install software... | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:45:53] <hggh> omfg docs.reductivelabs.com the dropdown on qucknav is really fucked up :( | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:46:44] <hggh> can anybody shut down the webdesigner? - I click on the dropdown move over to 2.6 and before I can click it will hide again | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:47:08] <Volcane> just make your own with puppetdoc, you'll be much happier :) | ||
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| [2010/07/26 04:55:31] <vad3R> /j #puppet.de | ||
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| [2010/07/26 04:59:03] <sejo> zipkid: what shorewall module do you use? Also got a guide somewhere on how to set it up with puppet? | ||
| [2010/07/26 04:59:47] <zipkid> sejo: we don;t 'really' manage shorewall via puppet. Just manage the config files. | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:00:16] <zipkid> so just a dir / server containing its files. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 05:06:06] <sejo> zipkid: ach ok | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:06:33] <sejo> zipkid: I'll need to be able to manage it per host based from puppet, so probably need to figure out some plugins and test them | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:06:40] <sejo> thx for the info though | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:07:01] <zipkid> sejo: there is one somewhere..... | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:07:43] <zipkid> but, we do manage it per host, where i said server i mean host/node | ||
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| [2010/07/26 05:17:02] <sejo> zipkid you put files in a dir per node and then restart the shorewall when files are changed? | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:17:45] <zipkid> sejo: let me check, i think so (i did not make the module) | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:18:03] <sejo> thanks for checking | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:19:26] <zipkid> sejo: yes... http://pastie.org/1060334 | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:22:10] <sejo> thx zipkid | ||
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| [2010/07/26 05:23:22] <muffintop> is there a major dashboard dev in here? | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:24:05] <sejo> muffintop: just ask the question if someone knows he'll respond | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:24:28] <zipkid> muffintop: ReinH: | ||
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| [2010/07/26 05:29:48] <GioGio> hi everyone | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:30:03] <GioGio> i have a question about the passenger extension | ||
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| [2010/07/26 05:31:26] <DbT_> vad3R: sorry, my connection was dead | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:31:27] <GioGio> is it possible to have 2 or more passenger server ? (on distinct server) | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:31:32] <DbT_> vad3R: any ideas? | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:31:36] <muffintop> I'm doing preliminary work on a monitoring system that can compete with enterprise solutions and puts every other open source solution to shame, and I was thinking it would be for sysadmins awesome to be able to integrate puppet into this system to have a one-stop-shop monitoring system webpage | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:31:53] <hal-j> DbT_: did you try —non-interactive on the svn command? | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:31:57] <hal-j> when you were execing it? | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:32:15] <DbT_> hal-j: yes I did, but I will repeat it | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:39:21] <vad3R> DbT_: Maybe try again with the script variant and post the puppet debug output | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:39:54] <DbT_> vad3R: hal-j: non-interactive makes no difference | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:40:03] <DbT_> I will post the debug output of the script variant | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:40:44] <vad3R> DbT_: Do you see a connection in your webserver logs the code runs? | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:43:13] <DbT_> vad3R: this is the log: http://pastebin.com/rek6KnVh | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:43:30] <DbT_> and what do you mean by connection in webserver logs? | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:44:19] <vad3R> It seems like your svn server is a apache webserver or something like that. You may see your requests in the webservers logs | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:44:31] <DbT_> ah ok, I will check that, just a sac | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:45:23] <DbT_> vad3R: no, svn server does nog get hit | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:45:41] <hal-j> DbT_: and running /home/u/do_checkout.sh manually, using the same cwd and user, manually - that yields a 0 return? | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:46:31] <vad3R> DbT_: The script code you posted before must write something to the logfile even when the svn command fails. Strange | ||
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| [2010/07/26 05:48:39] <DbT_> hal-j: yes | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:49:10] <hal-j> that sounds fun | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:50:03] <vad3R> DbT_: The permissions allow a direct exec, right? When you run it manually you don't use "bash /xxx/script.sh" right? | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:50:57] <DbT_> vad3R: no | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:51:17] <hal-j> can you have your script run svn and redirect stderr/stdout to /tmp/foo or something? maybe some useful info there? | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:52:20] <vad3R> DbT_: So the permissions are 0755 or something like that? | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:52:22] <dcarley> do_checkout.sh has an intepreter listed in the first line? | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:53:42] <DbT_> dcarley: yes: #/bin/sh | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:54:08] <dcarley> not `#!/bin/sh` ? | ||
| [2010/07/26 05:54:45] <DbT_> vad3R: 755, yes | ||
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| [2010/07/26 06:00:44] <DbT__> back again... | ||
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| [2010/07/26 06:06:04] <DbT__> my connection is flaky... | ||
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| [2010/07/26 06:09:02] <DbT__> vad3R: it seems that unless I say 'env -i' in front of the command, the environment is not set correctly (i.e. does not belong to the user specified) | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:09:37] <DbT__> and apparently svn looks inside the environment | ||
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| [2010/07/26 06:11:23] <vad3R> According to http://pastebin.com/HiTUVx80 you dump the env to a logfile. Can you post the output? | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:11:33] <DbT__> sure, one minute | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:13:35] <DbT__> http://pastebin.com/qEYeRHye | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:13:59] <vad3R> maybe it's a problem related to "--trust-server-cert". If the svn command doesn't use the correct .subversion directory it may block the connection because of the certificate | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:14:32] <DbT__> vad3R: yes, this is possible and probable | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:14:56] <DbT__> the first time I run this from the command line, subversion asks me the question if I trust the cert | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:15:14] <vad3R> Try passing a right HOME env var to "enviroment" in your exec | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:15:16] <DbT__> the second time it knows the answer because it saves this information somewhere inside the .subversion dir in the homedir | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:15:28] <DbT__> vad3R: thought I already tried, but will retry | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:16:06] <vad3R> compare the env output after you added the right value for HOME. | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:17:04] <DbT__> hmmm, the shell script started working | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:17:53] <vad3R> i recommend to use the script wrapper because you will not have any useful output if you use the direct exec. So the checkout works? | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:18:10] <DbT__> vad3R: yes, and the command started working as well | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:18:27] <DbT__> and it does give useful output - the svn stdout | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:18:38] <DbT__> unfortunately it doesn't give any output if it fails | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:19:02] <DbT__> so apparently svn looks inside the $HOME var | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:19:20] <vad3R> That's the way to determine where to look for .subversion folder | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:19:28] <DbT__> vad3R: yes, apparently | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:19:56] <DbT__> so we have here 2 puppet problems: 1) the logging is broken when the user is not root and 2) the environment is not setup correctly | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:23:44] <DbT__> vad3R: thanx a lot for your help! | ||
| [2010/07/26 06:24:02] <vad3R> DbT__: Sure. Glad it works now | ||
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| [2010/07/26 06:54:04] <joe-mac1> anybody seeing "your browser sent a bad request" randomly on .25.4 clients to .25.4 masters? | ||
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| [2010/07/26 07:16:44] <joe-mac1> Volcane: do you need that file i dropped on shell.devco anymore? | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:17:19] <Volcane> nope, need you test with a new extlookup if you're still playing 2.6 | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:17:45] <joe-mac1> yea i checked out 2.6 on a dev laptop saturday night but then got distracted by xbox and beer | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:20:09] <joe-mac1> may i ask what exactly you discovered Volcane? | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:20:50] <joe-mac1> just ran sudo by accident on shell.devco Volcane | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:20:56] <joe-mac1> idk if you get security alerts or waht... | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:21:04] <Volcane> joe-mac1: i do :) | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:21:20] <Volcane> joe-mac1: i didnt discover much - but did add lots of debugging statements to help discover things | ||
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| [2010/07/26 07:22:34] <joe-mac1> k. i'll check out my svn stuff tonight and try to do some testing with vmware | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:22:43] <joe-mac1> i need to get myself a colo'd server i've been putting it off forever | ||
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| [2010/07/26 07:47:45] <SEJeff> joe-mac, Why not just get a vps? | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:48:22] <joe-mac1> SEJeff: because i need enough beef to spin up VMs etc for testing | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:48:37] <joe-mac1> i could use ec2 actually and have work pay for it | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:48:43] <SEJeff> good call | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:48:45] <joe-mac1> hmm | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:48:50] <joe-mac1> yea idk why i hadn't 5thought of that | ||
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| [2010/07/26 07:49:01] <joe-mac1> since it is work-related anyways | ||
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| [2010/07/26 07:51:28] <Cyis> Okay... I know it's an old version, not looking for that... but how can I get 0.24.5 to generate a CA certificate such that the CN doesn't match the cert for the puppetmaster host itself? | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:53:20] <joe-mac1> Cyis: you have to set certname in your puppet.conf | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:53:33] <joe-mac1> i have to actually re-do my whole ssl setup | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:53:43] <Cyis> that's what I'm looking to do now... | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:54:04] <joe-mac1> put the certname in your puppetmasterd section | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:54:11] <Cyis> before I continue adding more puppet clients... just trying to get the puppetmaster CA and host certs with different CNs | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:54:23] <joe-mac1> yea, i would make sure your CA cert is under cn "puppet" | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:54:29] <Cyis> you found a link/doc that talks about it? | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:54:32] <joe-mac1> just so you can add cname's and it'll always work | ||
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| [2010/07/26 07:54:47] <joe-mac1> no, this is just knowledge that lives in my head, when i do it though i plan on documenting it for the community | ||
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| [2010/07/26 07:56:59] <Cyis> I'm looking more for the CA cert ... I've seen some issues with the CA and the Puppetmaster Cert having the same CN but appears 0.24.5 generates them as the same but on my 0.25.5 instance the CA using CN=ca and then Puppetmaster Cert has CN=<FQDN> | ||
| [2010/07/26 07:58:52] <joe-mac1> yea, .25 i think makes more sense | ||
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| [2010/07/26 07:59:57] <joe-mac1> anyone know if setting certname under the master or pre 2.6 puppetmasterd section applies across the agent/puppetd also? i'm hoping it's restricted to the section you specify it in | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:00:49] <ffrank> hi. has the requirement to include "modules/" in the URLs vanished somewhere in 0.25? because it is still in http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/modules.html | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:02:23] <Cyis> I'm just trying to get that duplicated in my existing 0.24.5 setup that I can't upgrade currently for internal reasons, not personal choice | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:04:35] <craftytech_> hello all; is there a way that I can do a complete reset of my ssl config? Even if I have to start from scratch | ||
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| [2010/07/26 08:05:30] <Peanut> craftytech_: on the client side, remove all files in /var/lib/puppet/ssl and its subdirectories. If you then restart the puppetd, it will generate a new Certificate Signing Request for the master. | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:05:33] <craftytech_> like what should be the default ssl entries in puppet.conf [puppetmasterd] [puppetd] | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:05:55] <Peanut> On the master, remove the old entry using puppetca, then sign the new one. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 08:07:05] <craftytech_> thanks Peanut.. let me try that and see it flies | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:07:10] <Peanut> The default entries in my debian install: ssldir=/var/lib/puppet/ssl | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:07:22] <Peanut> That's in the [main] section of /etc/puppet/puppet.conf | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:07:53] <Peanut> craftytech_: start with puppetca --revoke no the server side, then clean out the client and restart puppetd, from there it's business as usual | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:08:06] <Peanut> Just did that for all my puppets when switching them over to a new master. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 08:11:11] <Cyis> joe-mac1, setting 'certname' does not seem to override the FQDN and it still generates the CA cert with 'CN=FQDN' as opposed to 'CN=certname' | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:11:57] <joe-mac1> Cyis: what if you start puppetmasterd with puppetmasterd --certname=puppet | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:12:14] <Cyis> I'll try that | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:13:08] <Cyis> nope | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:14:33] <Cyis> that created a client cert with the CN=puppet but not the actually ca_crt.pem | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:15:53] <craftytech_> wow... I deleted /etc/puppet/ssl, /var/lib/puppet/ssl, Did: puppetca --revoke --all, puppetca --clean --all... and still "certificate verify failed" !! | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:16:16] <craftytech_> ntp has the times in sync.. I just don't get it | ||
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| [2010/07/26 08:20:03] <Cyis> guess I just need to generate and place my CA cert with the CN set like I want it then start puppetmasterd | ||
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| [2010/07/26 08:23:34] <chadh> Can you override a variable used in a class you inherit? | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:24:08] <alcy> craftytech_: try using the openssl s_client command agains the server adn see if that gives anything | ||
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| [2010/07/26 08:37:34] <benkevan> jamesturnbull: any idea when you'll push 2.6.1 down the gauntlet? (in regards to the patch for ruby 1.8.1 breakage) | ||
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| [2010/07/26 08:37:55] <jamesturnbull> benkevan: when its tested | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:38:14] <jamesturnbull> benkevan: when we're happy the rcs have found any other issues etc | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:38:29] <benkevan> oh.. that patch has been tested by myself and tmz (I think I've added notes on it).. just wondering if I should patch my current rpm build, or just wait for 2.6.1 | ||
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| [2010/07/26 08:41:45] <jamesturnbull> benkevan: well ... the 2.6.1 release won't be months ... more likely one-two weeks | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:41:52] <jamesturnbull> benkevan: so it's really up to you on timing | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:42:35] <gniks> just curious, why such a rapid release cycle? | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:43:57] @ Quit: markus: Quit: markus | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:44:01] <benkevan> jamesturnbull: ah.. good.. I'm still learning me how on the puppet.. so a few weeks (even a month) is plenty (I won't be rolloing out globally here at work for a few months to say the least.. after I get everything exactly how I want.. for the base modules) | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:44:05] <Volcane> gniks: did you see the fixes list? :P | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:44:18] <gniks> i saw the short list in the announcement :p | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:44:33] <Volcane> short, but significant | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:44:40] <Volcane> lots of backward compatilbity and performance issues | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:44:43] <gniks> i guess my point is, why not slow down a bit and catch these in one big release? | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:44:47] * benkevan adds a that's what she said | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:44:57] <Volcane> gniks: people dont test RCs | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:45:19] <gniks> i guess thats a fair point… although i was going to if my work schedule ever permitted :( | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:45:27] <Volcane> ditto :) | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:45:36] <gniks> me and my boss actually made it a project, lulz however now its out :p | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:45:45] <gniks> we still have to make it a project though, lots of fun stuff changed | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:45:57] <gniks> anyway, wasn't criticizing, just was curious | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:46:25] <Volcane> yeah, well i am not making any kind of official statements either - cant - but that just seems to be the way | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:46:51] <gniks> right… you also know better than a lot of others :p | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:48:34] <hal-j> so… Looking for opinions, since this isn't something I've got a lot of experience with. Company that bought us uses puppet (kinda) and I've been reworking their puppet setup to be a little more flexible, scalable, usable | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:49:22] <hal-j> they've got all of their nodes in LDAP, which I've never used before (so right off the bat, I know I've got a bias against it). LDAP isn't being used for anything else regarding these hosts (no other asset data, just puppetclasses ) | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:49:36] <hal-j> is there a benefit I'm missing to using LDAP? | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:49:43] <Volcane> how do they update it? | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:49:58] <hal-j> a php ldap interface | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:50:06] <Volcane> thats a benefit then | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:50:27] <gniks> LDAP is a blessing and curse in disguise… central authentication/authorization is a great benefit … along with being able to store puppet information in ldap as well | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:50:47] <hal-j> it doesnt seem to add much in teh way of user friendlyness. there's just a list of puppet classes that would be "include"d in a node def | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:50:57] <tmz> benkevan: I'll be pushing a 2.6.1rc1 build to my fedorapeople repo, if that helps. | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:51:02] <hal-j> gniks: I'm not questioning using LDAP for auth | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:51:23] <gniks> ah, sounded like you were questioning it for pretty much everything :) | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:51:38] <hal-j> just seems that splitting puppet data between svn and ldap (while the LDAP data doesn't include anything beyond puppet related bits) is a bit odd | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:52:04] <Volcane> hal-j: it makes it easy to have a functional web interface | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:52:11] <hal-j> I'm just trying to get some input before putting all the nodes into (a) manifest(s) and being doen with it | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:52:12] <Volcane> hal-j: if they use the interface that'll be a lot of benefit | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:52:31] <hal-j> at the loss of versioning / change tracking of nodes | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:52:37] <Volcane> yup | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:52:40] <Volcane> i wouldnt do it | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:52:45] <Volcane> but they might like their webui :) | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:52:45] <hal-j> wouldn't change? | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:52:50] <Volcane> i wouldnt use lda | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:52:51] <Volcane> p | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:53:03] <hal-j> me neither, but like I said, I realize I have a bias :) | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:53:08] <benkevan> tmz: naw.. I just have 1 use case RHEL4 server and that's manually patched.. | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:53:10] <craftytech_> <alcy>: IT connects...I only see one error in the output, and that is: "verify error:num=19:self signed certificate in certificate chain" | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:53:32] <benkevan> I can throw the patch into .spec if I really wanted too.. but it's fine.. if less then a month out | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:53:47] <benkevan> tmz: one thing I could use, is a nice example of transfering ssh keys :D | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:54:18] <hal-j> I've already written code to traverse the ldap tree, combine all nodes that have the same set of includes and created a nodes.pp | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:54:29] <hal-j> (mostly to indicate which classes are in use and still need rewriting) | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:54:34] @ Quit: padwan: Quit: . | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:54:37] <tmz> benkevan: host keys or user keys? | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:54:43] <benkevan> host dizzies | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:54:49] <benkevan> and user example would be nice too I guess | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:54:51] <hal-j> but since I'm there, I'm considering staying there :) | ||
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| [2010/07/26 08:56:55] <benkevan> tmz: do yo uhave dashboard rpm? | ||
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| [2010/07/26 08:58:38] <tmz> benkevan: I don't, but puppetlabs does (yum.puppetlabs.com IIRC). | ||
| [2010/07/26 08:58:42] <fenris02> tmz, btw, mod-passenger if you want it: http://mirror.nl.ergo-project.org/repositories/ | ||
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| [2010/07/26 08:59:26] <tmz> benkevan: For ssh host keys, I've been using storeconfigs (but that's because I have a small enough network of hosts to make that work for me). http://pastie.org/1060672 | ||
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| [2010/07/26 09:00:30] <tmz> fenris02: Cool. That looks like a mirror of jmeeuwen's repo. :) | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:01:03] <fenris02> tmz, i dont think that's a mirror :) | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:04:18] <geekatcmu> hal-j: using LDAP for your node store does NOT preclude you from using version control. It just means that it's significantly more painful to apply diffs (generate LDIF for different versions, apply). | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:04:50] <hal-j> geekatcmu: ok, I'm pretty much ignorant when it comes to LDAP | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:04:58] <hal-j> but good to know | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:05:38] <geekatcmu> You'd probably make a lot of friends really fast if you ginned up a web interface that not only allowed you to update puppet nodes in LDAP, but also had a button to commit to $VCS, show diffs from $VCS, and revert to different versions. | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:05:41] <benkevan> tmz: where is that ssh key stuff defined? Doesn't look to be its own module.. if it is.. can you include the full init.pp and any other pp (haha.. any other pp so .. man that's immature) | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:06:22] <fenris02> that's not real difficult to do geekatcmu ... you can use your webui to generate a ldif, and then merge it. keep the ldif. | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:06:26] <geekatcmu> LDAP is a data store. If you're looking for *basic* VCS capability, you use "ldapsearch" to dump the entire node store to a file, and then check in the file. | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:06:59] <geekatcmu> fenris02: So put it together and be the new hotness! | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:07:23] <fenris02> geekatcmu, #389 or #freeipa already do this ... | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:07:23] <gepetto> fenris02: geekatcmu: #389 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/389 "Puppet - Bug #389: Certificate revocation is having problems on FreeBSD - Puppet Labs" | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:07:29] <fenris02> d'oh! | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:07:41] <hal-j> geekatcmu: the current puppet setup has zero modules, and, frighteningly, zero templates | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:07:43] * geekatcmu chuckles | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:07:57] <geekatcmu> uhm.... | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:07:59] <hal-j> any time that there's a single config difference between two nodes, they include different classes. | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:08:17] <fenris02> geekatcmu, anyhow, the channel with that name already has a webui for managing users and other fun things | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:08:17] <hal-j> I'm making a lot of friends really fast, LDAP interface slickness or not | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:08:20] <geekatcmu> Sounds like it was done by COBOL programmers. | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:08:50] <tmz> benkevan: Just put that in whatever class you have your ssh config in. For me, it's in class ssh::client::config. And adjust the require's as well, if you don't have things split up as much. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 09:10:02] <benkevan> ok.. i'll poke around.. and figure out how I want to set it up haha | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:10:09] <benkevan> still new to modules so .. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 09:17:28] <benkevan> i like monkies | ||
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| [2010/07/26 09:26:50] <benkevan> hummm.. my dashboard build on SLES 11 SP1 failed.. wish a weird error.. time to poke around | ||
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| [2010/07/26 09:27:07] <benkevan> puppet-dashboard: "/etc/sysconfig/puppet-dashboard" is not allowed anymore in SuSE Linux. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 09:30:34] <Cyis> anyone care to give a hand with a problem setting up Apache to proxy through to mongrelized Puppetmaster? | ||
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| [2010/07/26 09:33:18] <agaffney> Cyis: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Using_Mongrel | ||
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| [2010/07/26 09:35:55] <Volcane> joe-mac1: can confirm extlookup and 2.6 is not buddies | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:37:05] <benkevan> haha.. I just realized that VERSION package in puppet-dashboard-1.0.1 is 1.0.0 and not 1.0.1 | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:37:31] <joe-mac1> Volcane: welkl at least i wasn't doing something wrong what are you seeing? | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:38:44] <Volcane> random data | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:38:55] <Volcane> i now have machines in US thinking tey're ni germany | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:39:21] <Volcane> and in the wrong DCs etc | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:39:51] <Volcane> and using the wrong resolvers - hence not resolving at all | ||
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| [2010/07/26 09:41:29] <joe-mac1> Volcane: lol exactly waht happened to me | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:41:35] <joe-mac1> the funny part was that when i ran it again, it would revert | ||
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| [2010/07/26 09:41:49] <Volcane> its hitting some kind of caching in the master | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:41:52] <joe-mac1> or not revert, pick something different | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:41:56] <Volcane> </wild guess> | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:42:05] <joe-mac1> yea, well, i would say you'er not far off | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:42:14] <joe-mac1> it is doing crazy shit | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:42:22] <joe-mac1> my iptables rules are resolved via variables too | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:42:31] <joe-mac1> so i got locked out of a few machines before i realized what was happening | ||
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| [2010/07/26 09:45:46] <Volcane> meh, going to have to build a test setup i guess | ||
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| [2010/07/26 09:47:46] <joe-mac1> Volcane: maybe you should tell PL to say something about that | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:47:53] <joe-mac1> cause it can kind of catastrophic (now that they include your code) | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:48:01] <Volcane> yeah | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:48:27] <joe-mac1> i didnt' file a bug last week cause i wasn't totally convinced i wasn't at fault heh | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:48:46] <Volcane> yeah I'll just give them a headsup till i can make some safer test lab :) | ||
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| [2010/07/26 09:50:49] <benkevan> tmz: how big is your environment? | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:51:47] <benkevan> and tmz can I see your defined class of ssh::client::config | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:51:53] <tmz> benkevan: Pretty small, < 100 hosts. | ||
| [2010/07/26 09:51:54] <benkevan> grr.. ssh::client::install | ||
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| [2010/07/26 09:58:09] <benkevan> I'm depressed | ||
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| [2010/07/26 09:59:02] <SEJeff> benkevan, puppetd --test --tags vicodin # might help | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:00:32] <Cyis> agaffney, yeah I've been trying that and it is failing... | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:00:47] <Cyis> I'm smart enough to try that first | ||
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| [2010/07/26 10:03:48] <benkevan> SEJeff: haha.. | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:03:52] <tmz> benkevan: I wouldn't call this a great example of an ssh module. But it serves the purposes I have currently. http://pastie.org/1060749 | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:03:59] <eryc> /opt/puppet-2.6.0/lib/puppet/application/kick.rb:107: Invalid next (SyntaxError) | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:04:17] <eryc> what version of ruby should i be using? | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:04:58] <benkevan> eryc: 1.8.1+ (but for 1.8.1 there is patch that needs to be installed) | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:05:04] <Cyis> the problem I'm getting is proxy errors | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:05:27] <eryc> i'm using 1.9.1-p378, is that ok? (apparently not) | ||
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| [2010/07/26 10:06:59] <Cyis> err: Could not call fileserver.list: #<RuntimeError: HTTP-Error: 502 Proxy Error> | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:07:09] <Cyis> and that's following the example given verebatium | ||
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| [2010/07/26 10:07:31] <agaffney> Cyis: no idea...it worked great for me | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:07:56] * eryc tries 1.8.7p299 | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:10:50] <Cyis> I didn't have this much problem with using passenger on my other puppet instance | ||
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| [2010/07/26 10:12:10] <eryc> woo 1.8.7 seems ok | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:12:19] <eryc> benkevan: do i need that patch? | ||
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| [2010/07/26 10:14:07] <benkevan> eryc: dunno.. i haven't tried with 1.9.1+ .. the issue with the 1.8.1 wasn't a syntax error, but something that wasn't defined.. you'd have to give us more from the debug, so we can really see what issue in kikc.rb | ||
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| [2010/07/26 10:15:01] <eryc> um, well i just ran puppet -h and it gave that error | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:15:20] <eryc> seems 1.9.1 doesn't like the "next" on line 107 | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:15:45] <eryc> its also reported by this guy http://www.mailinglistarchive.com/html/puppet-users@googlegroups.com/2010-07/msg00286.html | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:16:29] <eryc> also with 1.9.1 i had to use this install.rb for facter install to work http://github.com/phantez/facter/raw/bug/master/2788/install.rb | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:16:46] <eryc> ie. ftools vs FileUtils | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:17:05] <eryc> thats about it | ||
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| [2010/07/26 10:27:06] <joe-mac1> 1.9 is not supported yet | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:27:20] <joe-mac1> i thought 1.8.7 was cionsidered the latest stable anyways? | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:27:30] <hMz> thats changed | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:27:34] <joe-mac1> i c | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:27:51] <hMz> Ruby 1.9.1-p378 (md5: 9fc5941bda150ac0a33b299e1e53654c) Stable Version (recommended) | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:28:02] <hMz> someone should work on that 1.9 thing ;) | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:28:46] <hMz> i hear internet2 is on the way | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:29:05] <joe-mac1> hMz: lol | ||
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| [2010/07/26 10:32:52] <hMz> :D | ||
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| [2010/07/26 10:46:30] <benkevan> can I do: file { $operatingsystem-$operatingsystemrelease ? { SLES-11.1 name => something etc? | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:46:40] <benkevan> or would I have to nest the $operatingsystemrelease into operatingsystem | ||
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| [2010/07/26 10:49:44] <jamesturnbull> eryc: Ruby 1.9.x is NOT supported currently | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:50:37] <jamesturnbull> eryc: Puppet works on all Ruby versions 1.8.x from .1 - 2.6.0 doesn't work on .1 currently but 2.6.1 will - all other releaases run fine | ||
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| [2010/07/26 10:52:41] <fenris02> is 1.9.x released yet? or still beta/early ? | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:52:48] <jamesturnbull> fenris02: it's released | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:52:56] <eric0> you can't use a comparator as the title of the resource. if there's not already a compound fact you can just make one right above the resource -- '$osplusrelease = "${operatingsystem}-${operatingsystemrelease}" \n file { "filewhatever": name => $osplusrelease ? { "SLES-11.1" => whatever } } ' | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:53:15] <eric0> ^^for benkevan | ||
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| [2010/07/26 10:54:57] <geekatcmu> Ruby-1.8 -> Ruby-1.9 isn't quite as bad as the Python-2.x -> Python-3.x update, but yeah. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 10:56:40] <benkevan> eric0: thanks.. I just compounded them :) | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:56:45] <benkevan> instead of assigning another variable | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:56:49] <benkevan> (or creating a compoud fact | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:57:00] <benkevan> I'm still new to puppet and haven't gone into setting new facts.. | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:57:03] <benkevan> so maybe that's for later | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:57:53] <eryc> jamesturnbull: cool thanks, i'm content with 1.8.x :) | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:58:15] <eryc> since i compile all my software its not a big deal | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:58:31] <eryc> i'm assuming 1.8.x is a bit more stable anyway | ||
| [2010/07/26 10:59:29] <jamesturnbull> eryc: It's Ruby - I think that's guaranteed | ||
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| [2010/07/26 11:02:06] <fenris02> jamesturnbull, do you have scm commit access to ruby as well? | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:02:47] <jamesturnbull> fenris02: hell no :) I don't speak japanese well enough | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:03:33] <fenris02> speak is one thing. it's about the easiest language i've ever heard. writing is another matter entirely. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 11:06:05] <devicenull> is there any way to have puppet add IP addresses to the current machine? | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:06:11] <devicenull> ip aliases actually | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:06:28] <devicenull> I was going to write my own but I thought there might be a built in way I was missing | ||
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| [2010/07/26 11:08:07] <devicenull> ahha found one | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:08:14] <twoslice> Does anyone know what version of Ruby is supported in 2.6? Has it been tested with the 1.9 branch? | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:08:57] <fenris02> twoslice, your question was answered 5mins ago -- basically 1.8.2+ for puppet 2.6.0, but 1.8.1 soon as puppet 2.6.1 is out | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:10:12] <fenris02> twoslice, puppet does not currently support ruby-1.9 | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:13:17] <madduck> what's the difference between tagging a node foo and setting a variable $foo = true for that node, provided that the tests are accordingly? | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:14:23] <joe-mac1> tags and variables are not the same thign | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:14:26] <joe-mac1> that would be the difference :-D | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:14:41] <madduck> joe-mac1: do you have a good example when tags make sense? | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:14:57] <joe-mac1> sure, see tagmail, see collected groups of resource by tag | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:15:30] <joe-mac1> i'm sure there's lots of examples | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:15:36] <joe-mac1> variables are pretty primitive | ||
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| [2010/07/26 11:16:13] <joe-mac1> i see now that you said only 'node' though, i'm not certain in that case | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:16:18] <joe-mac1> idk why you would tag a whole node really | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:17:28] <madduck> i don't even know what tags are in the puppet context | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:17:38] <madduck> hence i was looking for a simple example. ;) | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:18:03] <joe-mac1> oh, well whjat are you trying to do? | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:18:13] <joe-mac1> tags aren't really useful for the really basic puppet stuff in my experience | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:18:35] <madduck> i am just trying to understand puppet and its potential | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:18:46] <madduck> hence i would love to know what sort of use-case would be perfect for tags | ||
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| [2010/07/26 11:19:28] <joe-mac1> a good one is you can tag resources with something like 'security' and configure tagmail.conf to send antyhing tagged security that changes to security-ops@yoursite.com | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:20:02] <joe-mac1> also, there are built in tags. one is called 'err' any resource that errors gets tagged err, so you can send any tag err to your group with tagmail | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:21:30] <joe-mac1> i also use tags when collecting exported resources... sometimes you want to collect a subset of all the exported resources so you can tag them with something like 'for_collection' then do something like Nagios_service <|| tag => "for_collection" ||> | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:21:52] <madduck> okay, that is way beyond me right now | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:22:01] <madduck> basically from what i understand, tagging is about grouping resources | ||
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| [2010/07/26 11:22:09] <joe-mac1> yea, like i said, tags are not very useful wheny ou are just starting | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:22:17] <madduck> ok. thanks! | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:22:33] <joe-mac1> well, you're sort of right, but i think 'classes' fits that description better | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:22:53] <joe-mac1> a class in puppet is a collection/group of resources. it's sort of confusing when you start off cause it's not a class in the traditional OOP sense | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:23:09] <joe-mac1> the structure analogous to an OOP class is called a 'definition' (look at the define keyword for examples) | ||
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| [2010/07/26 11:29:53] <geekatcmu> Does someone already have the code done to collect all of the ip addresses of a host into a single list? | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:30:20] <geekatcmu> It's particularly annoying on Solaris where you end up with some random combination of nge0, nge1_1, and nge2_0. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 11:43:32] <rasputnik> looks like custom facts don't get loaded when using the puppet (standalone) executable - is that right? | ||
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| [2010/07/26 11:43:44] <nico> facter -p | ||
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| [2010/07/26 11:48:54] <rasputnik> nico: sorry, what does the '-p' do? | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:48:58] <madduck> "Since Puppet version 2.6, hashes have been supported in the language." | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:49:03] <madduck> are we at 0.25.5 still? ;) | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:49:13] <madduck> http://docs.reductivelabs.com/guides/language_tutorial.html#hashes | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:49:21] <madduck> are hashes supported? | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:49:58] <joe-mac1> one thing i can't wait for in 2.6 is knowing for sure when shit is failing. right now i know certainly thre are a couple clients not connecting, but i don't get my err reports from them... the brief 2.6 install i had seemed to fix that, sending me ssl errors and everything | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:50:07] <joe-mac1> madduck: 2.6 has been released | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:50:15] <joe-mac1> 2.6.1 is in the works | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:50:38] <madduck> weeeeeeh! what a version jump! | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:50:47] <joe-mac1> yea, it's all psychological | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:50:51] <joe-mac1> like when slackware moved from 4 to 7 | ||
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| [2010/07/26 11:51:02] <madduck> so 0.26.0 is 2.6.0 ? | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:51:05] <joe-mac1> everyone perceived red hat to be more 'advanced' strictly due to the version | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:51:05] <madduck> basically? | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:51:19] <joe-mac1> right. but don't tell anyone. lol | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:51:41] <madduck> how would i do hashes before 2.6.0? | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:51:47] <joe-mac1> you wouldn't | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:52:03] <joe-mac1> what exactly do you need to do? i can probably come up with a workaround | ||
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| [2010/07/26 11:53:36] <madduck> i wanted to define an array of var-val pairs | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:53:58] <madduck> but i will just use an array and hide the var→index mapping in a define | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:56:27] <geekatcmu> What would cause a define to *never execute* for some hosts, while it work OK for others? Especially when the other items in the manifest work OK? | ||
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| [2010/07/26 11:57:17] <geekatcmu> You know what would do that? Stupidity. | ||
| [2010/07/26 11:58:03] <chadh> geekatcmu: the first thing that came to mind was, "you coded it that way?" :) | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:00:01] <geekatcmu> Apparently, I cannot tell the difference between "bind" and "dhcp" when it comes to role names. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 12:03:17] <geekatcmu> So, no one has code to share for collecting all the ipaddresses? | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:03:19] * geekatcmu sighs | ||
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| [2010/07/26 12:15:53] <joe-mac1> btw, the stored configs cleanup script needs a change to what section of the conf file it reads from | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:16:01] <joe-mac1> should be 'master' in the 2.6 branch, not 'puppetmasterd' | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:16:10] <joe-mac1> should i file a bug or let someone with commit access take care of it? | ||
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| [2010/07/26 12:18:32] <madduck> how do i access element 2 of an array in an ERB template, e.g. myarray[1] ? | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:18:36] <madduck> (which does not work) | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:18:45] <joe-mac1> that would definitely work | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:18:50] <joe-mac1> do you have a completye code example? | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:21:22] <madduck> the node defines: $unbound_stub_zones = [ [ "test.com", ["1.2.3.4","5.6.7.8"], false ] ] | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:21:33] <madduck> in the template, i use | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:21:42] <madduck> <%= unbound_stub_zones[0] %>, which returns <drumroll> "test.com" | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:21:52] <madduck> <%= unbound_stub_zones[0][0] %> returns 116 | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:21:54] <madduck> \o/ | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:23:39] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac1: patch and ticket would be awesome | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:25:13] <henk> madduck: that's correct afaict. | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:25:20] <madduck> i want credit that i am still trying to use puppet, given how i spend more time fighting infuriating problems with crap error messages than actually saving time administrating my machines. | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:25:24] <madduck> henk: how would that be correct? | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:25:29] <henk> madduck: try unbound_stub_zones[1][0]. | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:25:39] <henk> madduck: [0][0] is 't' which is in fact 116 | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:25:56] <madduck> henk: no, [0] is an array, [0][0] is "test.com" | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:26:01] <madduck> [0][0][0] is 't' | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:26:29] <madduck> [1][0] is also the magic value 116 | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:26:54] <henk> oh, i disregarded one level of nesting... sorry | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:27:12] <scashin133> madduck maybe you are running into issue: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/1048 | ||
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| [2010/07/26 12:29:16] <madduck> scashin133: oh man, most likely. | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:29:44] <scashin133> I ran into this same issue when I was coming up with my configs, let me see if i can find how I worked around it | ||
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| [2010/07/26 12:30:39] <jamesturnbull> gepetto: seen nigelk | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:30:39] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: nigelk was last seen 1 month, 13 days, 20 hours, 34 minutes and 23 seconds ago, quitting IRC (Client Quit) | ||
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| [2010/07/26 12:32:15] <eric0> what? he didn't come back from a month holiday and dive right back on irc?! | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:32:56] <scashin133> My issue was that I was trying to simulate hashes since my version of puppet doesn't have them. Then I found the nested array issue so I had to move to faking hashes. ["key/value", "key/value"] which then gets parsed by a self made function into a defines | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:33:32] <joe-mac1> done jamesturnbull | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:34:39] <joe-mac1> madduck: yea it probably flattens those out | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:34:59] <joe-mac1> compelx data types and puppet aren't really workable until the latest release | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:35:34] <madduck> scashin133: exactly the same here | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:35:59] <jbartus> i'm having strange useradd group behavior... i define a group, then i create a user who is in that group... and i get an error | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:36:02] <jbartus> http://www.pastie.org/private/nvmiyszwxmg2ito4zhe1q | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:36:19] <jbartus> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/types/user.html <--- this says "GROUPS" The groups of which the user is a member. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 12:38:42] <jbartus> i think maybe the redhat implied/default behavior of putting the user in the group of their name is conflicting with the defined behavior in puppet | ||
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| [2010/07/26 12:40:05] <jbartus> I also tried commenting out the group line inside the user mt-www stanza | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:40:06] <jbartus> same error | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:40:34] <jbartus> so how do you create a new user on a centos5 host in puppet and put them in a group that already exists | ||
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| [2010/07/26 12:44:49] <windowsr1fund> jbartus: 2 steps involved. #1: ensure the group exists. #2 assign the user to the group | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:44:50] <gepetto> windowsr1fund: jbartus: #1 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/1 "Puppet - Feature #1: Differentiate classes from definitions - Puppet Labs" | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:44:50] <gepetto> windowsr1fund: jbartus: #2 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/2 "Puppet - Feature #2: Add 'link' ability to File - Puppet Labs" | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:45:15] <windowsr1fund> hmmm | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:45:17] <windowsr1fund> #3 | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:45:17] <gepetto> windowsr1fund: #3 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/3 "Puppet - Feature #3: Add more mode configurability to PFile.rb - Puppet Labs" | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:45:20] <windowsr1fund> hah | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:48:15] <jbartus> right, i do 1 and 2 in the pastie i linked to | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:48:29] <jbartus> i just got a solution working which i guess i'm cool with i just don't understand | ||
| [2010/07/26 12:48:36] <jbartus> inside the user definition i used "gid" instead of "groups" | ||
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| [2010/07/26 13:13:50] <jbb> Hi. Does Puppet have the ability to scan a network looking for devices? I need a tool which will hopefully combine both configuration management, software distribution and network management/mapping | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:14:49] <joe-mac1> you can write some glue to do that... | ||
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| [2010/07/26 13:15:13] <joe-mac1> anyone know how i can make it so the issuer of the ca cert if 'puppet'? | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:15:35] <jbb> I'm trying to avoid re-inventing the wheel. Do you know of any avaable modules? | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:16:09] <madduck> awesome. facter assumes interfaces end in a digit. all other interfaces apparently aren't interfaces | ||
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| [2010/07/26 13:17:46] <geekatcmu> jbartus: in Unix-speak, there is a huge difference between "gid" and "groups". "man useradd" should be helpful. | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:20:18] <joe-mac1> jbb: no, that's a whole infrastructure | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:20:47] <joe-mac1> i mean, i do a fair amount of that, writing out nagios configs from puppet, writing out confluence pages from puppet, but haven't really done node auto discovery | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:21:12] <jbb> I know. I'm working working with OCS-Inventory, it does it, but I'd like to use something else (awkward to use) | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:21:14] <pheezy> really confluence pages? what's in them? we use confluence heavily joe-mac1 | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:21:45] <joe-mac1> pheezy: facts, variables, etc | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:21:55] <pheezy> huh, nice | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:22:01] <joe-mac1> then comments is for leaving incident reports and other servber log messages an admin would leave | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:22:41] <pheezy> hmm, nice | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:22:50] <pheezy> i think i may have to do something along those lines | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:23:22] <pheezy> got any code to share? :D | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:23:27] <joe-mac1> yea, it's actually pretty simple,. you install the confluence api and java onm your master, then write a custom function and stick it in a module | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:23:31] <joe-mac1> sure, hold on one sec | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:24:36] <geekatcmu> That could be nifty. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 13:25:00] <pheezy> oh you're using that instead of webdav, interesting | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:25:27] <joe-mac1> http://www.pastie.org/1061070 | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:25:49] <joe-mac1> the link to the docs is fucked dow bottom, i need to get those puppetdocs into http but its onlty in samba right now and i couldn't get the link to format properly for smb | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:26:56] <joe-mac1> the only drawback is that this data isn't really 'living' like if i was querying a DB, it's just basically a dump of the state of the last puppet run... idk if you get what i mean, but for instance it would be preferable to get those values when you visit the confluence page. i will probably make that happen once 2.6 is live and i can use the REST API | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:27:44] <pheezy> yeah, i get ya | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:27:49] <pheezy> that's pretty badass, thanks man | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:27:53] <joe-mac1> the whole top of that code, the extlookup function, it's only in there due to a weird scoping problem | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:28:19] <joe-mac1> it coudln't access the data when i called it like i normally would, so i had to drag that code into this custom function... thios function is actually like 6 lines of code lol | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:28:48] <joe-mac1> and the confluence.sh script is included with atlassian's CLI distribution available for free on their site | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:28:52] <jbartus> geekatcmu: lol that was pretty insulting, you coudl have at least read the pastie first | ||
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| [2010/07/26 13:29:55] <geekatcmu> I could have. Or, I could have just responded to what you sent in the chat. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 13:31:34] <geekatcmu> joe-mac1: living data is great, until you need to find out what the system looked like *before* the hard drive self-destructed. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 13:32:02] <joe-mac1> true, i plan on keeping the confluence thing cause it makes for a good server log | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:32:11] <geekatcmu> I'm still trying to get my AS400 people to understand that while it's nice to be able to look at current DB schemas, it would be even nicer if we could see those changes over time. | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:32:15] <geekatcmu> Yep. | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:32:17] <joe-mac1> good simple way to keep track of outages IMO | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:32:26] <joe-mac1> yea, this is why i hate AD | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:32:36] <joe-mac1> i can't go back and diff anything, i can't svn log and see who did something | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:32:55] <joe-mac1> i think AD should have this VCS type stuff included in it | ||
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| [2010/07/26 13:42:06] * windowsr1fund thinks AD is a freedom-resticting POS that should be avoided regardless of what it doesn't do | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:42:57] <joe-mac1> windowsr1fund: just ran out of cookies, sorry | ||
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| [2010/07/26 13:53:15] <joe-mac1> hmm looks like my plan for re-doing all of puppet ssl is coming together | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:53:19] <joe-mac1> def going to have to document this | ||
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| [2010/07/26 13:56:51] <jbooth> joe-mac1: May I suggest something lovecraftian for the document name? | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:57:15] <joe-mac1> lol | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:57:32] <joe-mac1> luckily i basically had this automation for generating/revoking keys in place | ||
| [2010/07/26 13:57:40] <joe-mac1> been pretty painless, just takuing it slow | ||
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| [2010/07/26 14:07:46] * Volcane has nice mcollecitve based puppet ca management :) | ||
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| [2010/07/26 14:20:11] <Volcane> these new puppet * commands, puppet cert sign <nodename> should work right? | ||
| [2010/07/26 14:20:31] <Volcane> ah | ||
| [2010/07/26 14:20:32] <Volcane> -s | ||
| [2010/07/26 14:21:27] <joe-mac1> for those of us stuill in the stone age Volcane, i have some sh scripts for it | ||
| [2010/07/26 14:21:56] <joe-mac1> this invalid request shit from puppetd->puppetmasterd is drivingf me nuts | ||
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| [2010/07/26 14:25:32] <Volcane> ok, can easily reproduce our extlookup bug | ||
| [2010/07/26 14:25:34] <Volcane> now to add some debug | ||
| [2010/07/26 14:26:15] <joe-mac1> Volcane: you rock | ||
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| [2010/07/26 14:32:40] <Volcane> yeah lookupvar does insane caching for sure | ||
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| [2010/07/26 14:36:25] <joe-mac1> Volcane: so glad you figured that out lol | ||
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| [2010/07/26 14:46:18] <Volcane> but weirdly i cant reproduce it with a simple function | ||
| [2010/07/26 14:46:21] <Volcane> only with extlookup | ||
| [2010/07/26 14:46:22] <Volcane> hmm | ||
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| [2010/07/26 15:03:53] <Volcane> fixed it | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:03:59] <Volcane> fuck knows why this fixes it though :) | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:03:59] <joe-mac1> Volcane: impressive, how | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:04:49] <Volcane> confirming :) | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:05:43] <Volcane> its the gsub! 's | ||
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| [2010/07/26 15:07:09] <Volcane> well, thats one of the problems | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:07:12] <Volcane> there's more | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:07:29] <joe-mac1> trying to modify stuff in oplace that is private? | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:07:38] <joe-mac1> i don't understand how an in place gsub could cause that lol | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:07:55] <Volcane> see the: lookupvar('extlookup_precedence').each do |prec| | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:08:03] <Volcane> and then i modify the prec with gsub! | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:08:21] <Volcane> if instead if clone prec so i have a new object thats a copy of prec, then that part of the code is fixed | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:08:34] <Volcane> anyway, now i have a use case that demonstrates it | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:08:42] <Volcane> so can ticket it and get someone who knows the internals to debu :) | ||
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| [2010/07/26 15:23:46] <marcin-> Hey I need help with this error from client: | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:23:47] <marcin-> Mon Jul 26 22:18:19 +0000 2010 Puppet (err): Could not run Puppet configuration client: Parameter source failed: Cannot use URLs of type 'ir-puppetmaster01.domain.com' as source for fileserving at /etc/puppet/modules/sudo/manifests/init.pp:7 | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:24:10] <marcin-> while this file: | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:24:20] <marcin-> on master: | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:24:31] <marcin-> "/etc/puppet/modules/sudo/manifests/init.pp" | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:24:41] <marcin-> has configuration of source: | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:24:42] <marcin-> class sudo { file { "/etc/sudoers": owner => root, group => root, mode => 440, source => "ir-puppetmaster01.domain.com:///sudo/files/sudoers" } } | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:24:51] <marcin-> what is wrong? | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:25:06] <chadh> marcin-: that's not a proper URL | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:25:09] <Volcane> marcin: source => "puppet:///sudo/files/sudoers" | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:25:24] <Volcane> marcin-: if you use 3 x /'s it will fill in your server name correctly for you too | ||
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| [2010/07/26 15:25:54] <Volcane> marcin-: and assuming you're using modules here - am guessing - we might need to tweak that url a bit more | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:25:58] <marcin-> I know, it is not, what it should be? | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:25:59] <marcin-> http? | ||
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| [2010/07/26 15:27:09] <Volcane> marcin-: like i showed you | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:27:17] <marcin-> Volcane I did not create alias to puppet, but instead I am using DNS | ||
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| [2010/07/26 15:27:29] <Volcane> marcin-: thats fine, whatever puppetd is talking to will be used | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:27:49] <Volcane> marcin-: alternatively you can do puppet://servername/sudo/files/sudoers too if that makes more sense | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:28:02] <marcin-> oh yes | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:28:16] <Volcane> but you'll probably find its redundant to add the server name | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:28:23] <Volcane> and will help later on if u get another server | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:31:41] <marcin-> wait it is better | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:32:12] <marcin-> :) | ||
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| [2010/07/26 15:37:17] <marcin-> now I have this: | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:37:17] <marcin-> //sudo/File[/etc/sudoers] (err): Failed to retrieve current state of resource: Could not retrieve information from source(s) puppet://ir-puppetmaster01.domain.com/sudo/files/sudoers at /etc/puppet/modules/sudo/manifests/init.pp:7 | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:37:57] <Volcane> marcin-: try puppet://server/sudo/sudoers | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:38:03] <Volcane> you dont need to say 'files' | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:38:07] <Volcane> what version are you on? | ||
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| [2010/07/26 15:39:51] <marcin-> yes it worked | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:40:03] <marcin-> it is so weird it is not even path matching reality | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:40:52] <marcin-> puppet-0.25.5 | ||
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| [2010/07/26 15:41:01] <Volcane> ok, then you should change it to: | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:41:02] <marcin-> but it works | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:41:10] <Volcane> puppet://server/modules/sudo/sudoers | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:41:21] <Volcane> to avoid some warnings and to ensure future compatibility | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:42:05] <marcin-> you sure ? even though I have: | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:42:05] <marcin-> [files] path /etc/puppet/modules/ | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:42:11] <marcin-> in fileserver.conf | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:42:13] <marcin-> ? | ||
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| [2010/07/26 15:42:53] <Volcane> yeah you dont need that | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:43:16] <Volcane> modules have are like little units with code, files and templates all in one | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:43:18] <Volcane> they're magical | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:43:24] <marcin-> Volcane: should I have just comment everyting in fileserver,conf ? | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:43:29] <Volcane> and have magical looking and file serving abilities | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:43:42] <Volcane> so when you say puppet:///modules/sudo/sudoers | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:43:48] <rasputnik> anybody used standalone puppet much? | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:44:05] <Volcane> it knows to go look in uor modulesdir - sudo/files/sudoers | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:44:16] <marcin-> yeah I think magical it is | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:44:26] <marcin-> like classes autoloaders | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:44:30] <Volcane> same yes | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:44:46] <marcin-> so should I have anything in that fileserver.conf ? | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:45:05] <Volcane> nah, you can add [modules] and just a list of ips thats allowed - no path | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:45:39] <marcin-> ok | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:45:42] <benkevan> i had my first whoops with puppet today :D | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:46:19] <rasputnik> I've got a module with custom facts, and can't figure out how to tell puppet(8) about them | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:46:19] <Volcane> benkevan: yeah? | ||
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| [2010/07/26 15:46:37] <Volcane> rasputnik: pluginsync i think like usual but might be wrong | ||
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| [2010/07/26 15:47:41] <rasputnik> Volcane: have tried that, I thought. Not 100% where it's looking for plugins once it's run. Might just defactor the Fact logic back into the module and have done. | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:48:37] <rasputnik> (it's the camptocamp mysql module, for the record) | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:49:17] <benkevan> Volcane: yeah.. had an old template in place after upgrading mediawiki (from 1.13.1 to 1.15.4) and the LocalSettings.php were incompatible.. rewrote a new LocalSettings.php, but it was over written with the old one, leaving our internal wiki with a blank page HAHA.. whoops.. (I am only on 3 clients w/ 1 server) .. but planning on rolling it out more.. | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:49:54] <Volcane> rasputnik: weird, it should listen to pluginsource and fetched it. never used that much in standalone mode | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:50:51] <Volcane> benkevan: heh nice - always need testing env for upgrades :P | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:51:04] <rasputnik> Volcane: I thought standalone was the bees knees until I hit this snag, makes for a very simple bootstrap. | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:51:19] <benkevan> Volcane: yeah.. I haven't done environments with puppet yet.. that's probably going to be the next thing (prod / dev) at LEAST .. | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:51:29] <Volcane> rasputnik: yeah its really nice, if it really is broken you can probably file a bug cos thats important to work | ||
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| [2010/07/26 15:51:51] <benkevan> but may do prod / testing / dev (with dev being cvs.. or I may learn myself some git) | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:52:11] <rasputnik> I'm sure I'm just being thick (that's why I'm asking here). Will dig around a bit mroe. | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:52:17] <rasputnik> s/roe/ore/ | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:52:45] <marcin-> I got it to work, but I had to modify fileserver.conf to | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:52:46] <marcin-> [files] path / allow *.domain.com allow 10.1.2.0/24 | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:52:56] <marcin-> otherwise it did not want to start | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:53:01] <Volcane> rasputnik: i cant get it going on a quick test either... | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:53:07] <marcin-> using /etc/init.d/puppet-master | ||
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| [2010/07/26 15:53:19] <Volcane> marcin-: pretty sure you do _not_ want path = / :) | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:53:31] <Volcane> marcin-: that'll give nodes the ability to copy say /etc/shadow from your master | ||
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| [2010/07/26 15:54:05] <marcin-> oh | ||
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| [2010/07/26 15:57:00] <marcin-> Oh man, Volcano it works!! | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:57:16] <marcin-> with this: [modules] allow *.domain.com allow 10.2.106.0/24 | ||
| [2010/07/26 15:57:22] <marcin-> in fileserver.conf | ||
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| [2010/07/26 16:03:26] <marcin-> thx Volcano | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:04:53] <marcin-> Volcano: what is the design recommendation for situation if I have 4 datacenters with roughly 100 servers each so configuration files are different | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:05:02] <marcin-> should I build 4 puppet masters? | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:05:09] <marcin-> or can I create groups/categories? | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:05:53] <eric0> man you are either failing at reading comprehension or irc nick completion. | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:06:16] <marcin-> who me? | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:06:25] * geekatcmu would have five puppet masters, four of which would build from the *real* master, and use variables in nodes to set the relevant variables. | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:06:51] <geekatcmu> It's "Volcane", not "Volcano". Spelling matters. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 16:07:04] <marcin-> Volcane yes | ||
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| [2010/07/26 16:07:37] <geekatcmu> Well, *that* was silly. | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:07:38] <Volcane> marcin-: you can use a varaible in the filenames, like: source => puppet://sudoers/sudo.${datacenter} | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:07:54] <geekatcmu> Yep. | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:08:01] <Volcane> marcin-: you can also use an array: [puppet://sudoers/sudo.${datacenter}, puppet://sudoers/sudo"] so the first one that it finds will be taken | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:08:14] <Volcane> marcin-: so if u have a special case in one DC but the others are the same, just make a file for that dc | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:08:30] <Volcane> marcin-: there's many options. you can template it, or do some inheritance and overrides | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:08:33] <Volcane> lots of options | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:10:33] <marcin-> Volcane-: but then how come puppet client will determine which one it should take? | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:10:50] <mackn> that's up to how you want to deploy it | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:11:04] <Volcane> marcin-: there are facts - type facter and you can add mode - or in your block where you define a node you just set a variable for that node | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:11:04] <marcin-> what do you mean | ||
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| [2010/07/26 16:11:11] <Volcane> s/mode/more | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:12:02] <S_BS> is there any way to copy a file from an arbitrary location on puppetmaster to the client? | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:12:30] <Volcane> S_BS: content => file("/arbitrary/location") | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:12:41] <S_BS> hmmm tried that, getting errors | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:12:48] <S_BS> will try again, thanks! | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:12:50] <eric0> marcin-: i'd gently suggest you go do some reading at this point - http://delicious.com/ahpook/puppet (my links) http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/external_nodes.html http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/custom_facts.html | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:14:22] <marcin-> ok! | ||
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| [2010/07/26 16:23:56] <rasputnik> bugger. it's definitely not seeing these facts. I've read the documentation and everything. | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:24:14] <rasputnik> sod it, smoke. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 16:26:28] <Volcane> rasputnik: you could just copy them somehow into vardir | ||
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| [2010/07/26 16:28:41] <Volcane> or even just set libdir | ||
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| [2010/07/26 16:30:13] <rasputnik> custom types and providers are running ok, what's the difference between them and facts? | ||
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| [2010/07/26 16:31:13] <rasputnik> oh hang on, I am setting --confdir to the top of the /boostrap tree. that's probably wrong. | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:31:31] <Volcane> rasputnik: oh if thats the case then you probably just need to set factsource | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:31:39] <Volcane> factpath = $vardir/lib/facter | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:31:44] <Volcane> factpath i mean | ||
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| [2010/07/26 16:35:49] <rasputnik> the stuff I'd normally put under /etc/puppet on a puppetmaster, I've put in /bootstrap - i.e. there's /bootstrap/modules with the usual bits under it. plugins and facts are all within the modules tree. | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:36:18] <rasputnik> haven't touched /etc/puppet - treating that as the 'client' side | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:37:05] <Volcane> if its finding types/providers and no facts its just facter not looking in the right place | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:37:09] <Volcane> setting factpath tells it | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:37:18] <rasputnik> then I run the manifest with puppet --confdir /bootstrap /bootstrap/manifests/init.pp (tried adding --pluginsync --factpath /var/lib/puppet/lib/facter ) | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:37:46] <rasputnik> amazed I got this far without having a clue what I'm doing. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 16:39:07] <Volcane> i guess there's some magical handling for types/providers but not facts | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:39:24] <rasputnik> seems to me like --factpath=/var/lib/puppet/lib/facter should populate that directory, but it's not happening.. maybe because there's no fileserver? | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:39:54] <Volcane> yeah that doesnt populate it, it just tells facter where to look | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:40:07] <Volcane> if your module has /bootstrap/modules/foo/lib/facter/foo.rb | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:40:18] <Volcane> set factpath=/bootstrap/modules/foo/lib/facter | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:40:31] <Volcane> hacky, will only work for one set of facts etc | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:40:36] <rasputnik> Volcane: right, but that will only work for the one module, won't it? | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:40:45] <rasputnik> (actually that will be fine in this case) | ||
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| [2010/07/26 16:41:03] <Volcane> nods, i suspect u might be missing a feature here in facter or standalone puppet | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:41:12] <rasputnik> and I can skip the --pluginsync bit then too? | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:41:17] * rasputnik gives it a whirl | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:44:17] <rasputnik> yay | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:45:35] <Volcane> kewl, thin u should file a bug/feature ticket | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:45:58] <rasputnik> oh don't worry, I will - just doing a bit more testing to narrow it down. | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:46:07] <Volcane> k | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:46:42] <rasputnik> yeah, looks like the --pluginsync just doesn't do anything. tried setting --factpath=/tmp and nothing is getting created. | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:47:05] <rasputnik> thanks again for the help | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:47:36] <rasputnik> owe you a beer if you ever make it to the right side of the Severn Bridge | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:47:42] <Volcane> i suspect with it enabled - like the master - it will just magically find types and plugins and load those | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:47:45] <Volcane> but not for facts | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:48:14] <Volcane> rasputnik: ah yeah have been meaning to come spend some more time in wales, next year maybe :) | ||
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| [2010/07/26 16:49:26] <rasputnik> cool, let me know if you're near Cardiff. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 16:51:54] <Volcane> will do | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:51:54] <S_BS> Volcane: after more testing, found that puppetmaster is able to access a file in /home/user directory (even if the file owner is root), but cannot access a file in /root . Has this happened before? Is there any way around this? | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:52:40] <Volcane> S_BS: /root is owned by root, puppetmaster doesnt run as root. | ||
| [2010/07/26 16:53:26] <S_BS> Thank you, I thought puppetmaster ran as root. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 16:59:55] <rasputnik> just a thought, do types and providers run on the puppetmaster? | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:00:37] <Volcane> the type part is on the mastter | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:03:22] <rasputnik> Will try again tomorrow (and golf down a reproducable bug). that was all on a cloudserver, which I just trashed. | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:03:50] <Volcane> heh ok | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:03:58] <rasputnik> have got a local git repo with the config in, so i'll just clone that, rip out the irrelevant bits, and apply it on a new cloudserver tomorrow. | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:04:06] <rasputnik> i love rackspace for this kind of stuff. | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:04:54] <Volcane> yeah only usecase i found for the cloud thus far :P | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:05:00] <Volcane> fire up 40ish machines to test mcollective heh | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:06:03] <rasputnik> exactly. per hour billing rocks. have been tooling around with this standalone manifest thing for about a week, half an hour here and there. probably cost about 20p so far. | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:06:27] <bobcrotch> who do you guys go through for a host? | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:06:35] <Volcane> yeah though i am not a fan of rackspace billing on drive usage and not compute time | ||
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| [2010/07/26 17:06:45] <Volcane> but i guess its nice to be able to shutdown/start and not start fresh | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:07:08] <rasputnik> bobcrotch: I like Rackspace Cloud, believe Volcane is more an EC2 man. | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:07:41] <Volcane> i mostly dont like ec2 its bearable more or less | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:07:47] <bobcrotch> wow | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:07:52] <Volcane> for dev boxen i just pay linode | ||
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| [2010/07/26 17:07:57] * bobcrotch feels foolish for not thinking about this earlier | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:08:04] <rasputnik> Volcane: I just need some low end hosting, the fact they don't bundle bandwidth is good for me as we hardly use any. | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:08:15] <Volcane> rasputnik: but its pricy vs linode | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:08:16] <bobcrotch> yah, I have a linode host, but I was just thinking 'how can i get a handful of tiny machines..' | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:08:37] <Volcane> its only cheap if u dont run them all the time for example - i lab usage | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:08:47] <Volcane> u pay for all the elsticity blah blah | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:08:51] <rasputnik> Volcane: I had a long chat with Linode, they are good folks but they don't do hourly billing. | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:08:53] <Volcane> which if u dont use, why bother? just use linode | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:09:04] <Volcane> yeah, daily | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:09:21] <rasputnik> and I can get away with a 256Mb VM for this setup, which is cheaper than the cheapest Linode. | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:09:25] <Volcane> if u want lab boxes/short life time, go cloud | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:09:32] <rasputnik> not as good value for money, but I want it dirt cheap. | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:09:35] <Volcane> nods | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:10:01] <Volcane> i have a fair number of dom0's in various isps so can usually fire up my own dev boxes easily | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:10:09] <Volcane> still though if i need 40 or so, gotta use amazon | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:10:35] <rasputnik> bobcrotch: if you want a dozen 256Mb VMs, rackspace cloud is pretty good. got a good API for mass builds too (with a good Ruby shim). | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:11:02] <Volcane> rasputnik: did u guys ever get to play with mcollective? | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:11:03] <bobcrotch> rasputnik: exactly | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:11:15] <bobcrotch> linode has it's place | ||
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| [2010/07/26 17:12:35] <Volcane> rasputnik: or am i confusing you with someone else who mentioned it also from wales...hmm | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:12:43] <rasputnik> Volcane: had a look at the RPMs, but that was it. We're chocka this summer moving vhosts of out of warranty tin. | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:12:48] <rasputnik> but yes, it was me. | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:13:35] <Volcane> rasputnik: ah kewl, yeah its a big thing to undertake a proper investigation into it. need to write some better gettingstartd guids and screencasts | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:14:34] <rasputnik> Volcane: I set aside Friday afternoons for tinker time, so that's when I usually try out new tech. It's high on the list, just lots of day job in the way right now. | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:14:54] <Volcane> sweet | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:14:57] <Volcane> k, bed time here | ||
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| [2010/07/26 17:15:17] <bobcrotch> thanks for the tips guys, I hadn't even considered cloud stuff | ||
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| [2010/07/26 17:16:13] <rasputnik> bobcrotch: works well depending what you're building. I used to swear by Virtualbox but I have 6 dormant VMs on my laptop I use maybe once every month or two. | ||
| [2010/07/26 17:17:12] <rasputnik> beauty of a good puppet deployment is you can spin up a cloud server (or EC2 instance) and get to a known state in about 5 minutes, do your dev. and then trash the cloud server. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 17:17:55] <rasputnik> right off to bed. night all. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 17:18:02] <bobcrotch> rasputnik: later | ||
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| [2010/07/26 18:17:16] <cyrus_mc> So I have a group of systems called wes (stands for web enterprise systems). From there I have dev, tqa and prod wes systems. What I did was create a wes node and then three subsequent nodes that inherit the wes node - those being dev_wes, tqa_wes and prod_wes. | ||
| [2010/07/26 18:17:37] <cyrus_mc> All these systems get the same set of files, so I put all the main logic in the wes node. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 18:18:28] <cyrus_mc> However, as an example, the bashrc, there is a slight different between the dev, tqa and prod version. Is there a way to set the source for a file resource based on say a tag (like: tag dev_wes, tag tqa_wes, etc) | ||
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| [2010/07/26 18:26:45] <cyrus_mc> anyone? | ||
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| [2010/07/26 18:27:04] <Djelibeybi> cyrus_mc: you can do it based on fact, I know that much | ||
| [2010/07/26 18:27:18] <Djelibeybi> source => "file.$hostname, file.$factname, file" | ||
| [2010/07/26 18:27:24] <Djelibeybi> Will pick the most appropriate file | ||
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| [2010/07/26 18:29:38] <cyrus_mc> Djelibeybi: ya..but there is no fact that says this is dev or prod or tqa. That is why Iw anted to do it based off of tag. | ||
| [2010/07/26 18:29:49] <cyrus_mc> I mean..I can do it the ugly way and just put a big if statement around it | ||
| [2010/07/26 18:29:51] <Djelibeybi> cyrus_mc: you can't write a fact for that? I think we talked about this. | ||
| [2010/07/26 18:30:26] <cyrus_mc> Djelibeybi: we did...but there is nothing that determiens whether it is dev, tqa or prod..it is just an assignment based on how they want to use the system | ||
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| [2010/07/26 18:31:03] <cyrus_mc> is it not possible to do something like source => $tags { dev_wes => ..., etc } | ||
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| [2010/07/26 18:32:16] <cyrus_mc> second question is..I need to modify the /etc/motd by adding the necessary security warning if possible but not over-writing what is currently there. | ||
| [2010/07/26 18:32:24] <cyrus_mc> is there a way to append to a file | ||
| [2010/07/26 18:33:09] <Djelibeybi> cyrus_mc: no idea on the tags thing. | ||
| [2010/07/26 18:33:21] <Djelibeybi> cyrus_mc: take a look at the concat function | ||
| [2010/07/26 18:33:35] <Djelibeybi> cyrus_mc: it is a module that allows you to create a single from from individual snippets in modules | ||
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| [2010/07/26 18:45:32] <tjoe> are there rpm for 2.6 ? | ||
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| [2010/07/26 18:50:59] <fenris02> tjoe, iirc, yes, in tmz's fedorapeople.org page | ||
| [2010/07/26 18:52:51] <tjoe> fenris02: ok, I see it, thanks | ||
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| [2010/07/26 18:57:54] <rodnet> cyrus_mc: on some systems you can make a /etc/motd.tail file | ||
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| [2010/07/26 20:02:05] <chadh> anyone know the best way to install puppet 0.25 on ubuntu 9.04? | ||
| [2010/07/26 20:04:00] <LoOoD> gem install puppet -v 0.25 ? | ||
| [2010/07/26 20:04:32] <chadh> LoOoD: uggh. I guess. Sounds like the lucid packages may "just work", so I am going to try that first | ||
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| [2010/07/26 20:07:22] <chadh> that does seem to have worked. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 22:16:17] <eryc> the docs for setting up a puppetmaster server could be improved | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:17:35] <Djelibeybi> eryc: how so? | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:17:57] <eryc> after signing a client cert and setting up the fileserver.conf, i was at a loss as to how to push a file to the client | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:18:21] <eryc> i found some tutorial which referenced nodes.pp and didn't realize i needed to start with site.pp | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:18:56] <eryc> and that the fqdn should be single quoted | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:19:25] <eryc> and the puppet source url could use a better explanation | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:19:40] <eryc> server/modules/module_name/blah is confusing | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:20:02] <eryc> it seems to imply that modules is a required word | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:20:14] <eryc> it wasn't until i discovered http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Advanced_Puppet_Pattern that i got on the right path | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:20:27] <eryc> that really shouldn't be an "advanced" pattern | ||
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| [2010/07/26 22:21:26] <eryc> this page http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/configuring.html stops too short of actually doing something useful | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:22:33] <eryc> i think it should include setting up the fileserver.conf, adding a node to site.pp on the master, and seeing that /etc/sudoers or whatever is applied on the client | ||
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| [2010/07/26 22:22:58] <eryc> less ambiguity and better, specific, examples | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:23:18] <Djelibeybi> eryc: I don't use a fileserver.conf | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:23:25] <Djelibeybi> eryc: puppet works just fine without it | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:23:36] <Djelibeybi> eryc: also, the getting started tutorial goes through creating the site.pp, etc. | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:24:09] <eryc> does the site.pp apply without encasing it in a node {} clause? | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:24:24] <Djelibeybi> eryc: nothing applies without being in a node {} clause | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:24:31] <eryc> it said that filebucket was disabled without the fileserver.conf | ||
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| [2010/07/26 22:24:46] <Djelibeybi> eryc: curious. I use filebucket without a fileserver.conf | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:24:56] <Djelibeybi> eryc: But, I see the getting started tutorial isn't on docs.puppetlabs.com, which is a shame | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:25:12] <eryc> link? | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:25:22] <Djelibeybi> eryc: I'm trying to find it now. | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:26:16] <Djelibeybi> This tutorial is also nifty: http://www.devco.net/pubwiki/Puppet/GettingStarted/1 | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:27:11] <Djelibeybi> eryc: you're right, the getting started doco is now truncated from what it used to be, IIRC. | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:27:13] <eryc> yea thats better | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:27:19] <eryc> ok | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:27:27] <eryc> yea it left me hanging essentially | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:27:29] <Djelibeybi> eryc: perhaps log a bug against the puppet-doc project? | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:27:31] <eryc> and its late :) | ||
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| [2010/07/26 22:28:13] <Djelibeybi> If you're in Australia, feel free to come to my Puppet tutorials at the SAGE-AU conference in two weeks. :p | ||
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| [2010/07/26 22:28:32] <eryc> well, they should integrate this devco gettingstarted content :) | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:28:45] <eryc> this is much more helpful and to the point | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:28:56] <eryc> though, now i've already figured it out so.. | ||
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| [2010/07/26 22:29:09] <eryc> it could have been less painful :) | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:29:20] <Djelibeybi> eryc: yeah, IIRC that tutorial was on the old reductive labs wiki (or something pretty similar) | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:30:16] <eryc> lak: please to be adding the GettingStarted content to the #gettingstarted page http://www.devco.net/pubwiki/Puppet/GettingStarted/1 | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:31:00] <eryc> Djelibeybi: i'm in washington,dc but thanks for the invite! | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:31:17] <lak> eryc: actually, that's not maintained by us, it's by Volcane | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:31:44] <lak> eryc: hmm, actually - i see what you mean | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:31:44] <Djelibeybi> eryc: log a bug here: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet-docs | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:31:48] <eryc> yes but its better than http://docs.reductivelabs.com/#getting_started | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:31:51] <lak> guess we need to pressure Volcane to help :) | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:31:57] <lak> but yeah, Djelibeybi has it right - file that bug | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:32:08] <Djelibeybi> lak: I'm sure there was a better tutorial on the old wiki somewhere | ||
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| [2010/07/26 22:32:22] <lak> we're actively looking for a docs person right now to work full time on docs, so they'll be pounding through that list | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:32:39] <Djelibeybi> lak: how much does that doc person get paid? :p | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:32:41] <lak> Djelibeybi: hmm. i expect we still have that db around somewhere, but.... i'm sure we migrated everything. maybe it's just hidden? | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:32:56] <lak> Djelibeybi: umm.... no idea? ask jamesturnbull :) | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:33:08] <eryc> uh, how do i file a bug? | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:33:11] <Djelibeybi> lak: hehehe, I shall do just that. I'm pretty sure the doc person doesn't really need to be in Portland. :p | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:33:23] <Djelibeybi> eryc: you need to register and login to see the "New Issue" tab | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:33:41] <Djelibeybi> eryc: one sec, there is a way to email the bug system. | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:33:44] <Djelibeybi> eryc: let me find the email on that | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:34:01] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull: do you have the email address to create a new puppet-docs issue? | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:34:04] <lak> i think it's tickets@puppetlabs.com | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:34:29] <Djelibeybi> lak: I thought that was to the main puppet project, not the puppet-docs project | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:34:39] <lak> ah; i didn't know there was a separate email | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:34:48] <lak> i think you have to put the projects name in the email or something | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:35:00] <Djelibeybi> Ah, no you're right: | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:35:11] <Djelibeybi> You can now send an email to tickets@puppetlabs.com to create a ticket. | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:35:11] <Djelibeybi> You still need a Redmine account, though | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:35:23] <Djelibeybi> And you can put: Project: puppet-docs | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:35:24] <Djelibeybi> In the body | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:43:45] <eryc> filed http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/4373 | ||
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| [2010/07/26 22:45:28] <eryc> g'nite :) | ||
| [2010/07/26 22:45:58] <Djelibeybi> eryc: g'night | ||
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