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| [2010/07/27 01:09:38] <taiky> hello | ||
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| [2010/07/27 01:17:20] <taiky> i need some informations about puppet version management | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:17:27] <taiky> on debian | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:17:58] <taiky> what is the best way to manage all versions which come with debian | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:18:10] <henk> taiky: define "manage" please... | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:18:22] <taiky> i have some etch, lenny and next squeeze | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:18:34] <taiky> currently, my puppetmaster run on lenny | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:18:50] <henk> there is the 'lsbdistrelease' fact you can match on in your recipes... | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:18:51] <taiky> but the squeeze version will not work on this server ? | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:19:07] <taiky> so i need to upgrade my server os to squeeze. | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:19:21] <henk> you do? what's wrong about the lenny version? | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:19:27] <taiky> this is difficutlt;.. because it run other daemon | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:19:57] <Volcane> just rebuild the source deb and put it in your local repositories | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:20:05] <Volcane> mostly the deb works on older versions anyway | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:20:05] <taiky> and i can not be sure that my etch clients will work on the squeeze puppetmaster | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:20:09] <Volcane> since its not compiled | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:20:19] <henk> taiky: afaik they probably won't... | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:20:48] <henk> taiky: imho you should just use a puppetmaster from bpo with clients bpo, lenny, or etch. | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:23:01] <alcy> anyone got a clue about this: http://pastie.org/1061798 , it says cannot manage files of type socket. the directory in question is a /var/run directory | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:24:04] <Volcane> no its not | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:24:12] <Volcane> its /var/run/clamav | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:24:24] <alcy> yeah, i mean dirs under /var/run/ | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:24:34] <Volcane> so there's no doubt sockets in there | ||
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| [2010/07/27 01:24:48] <Volcane> why on earth are you recursively managing /var/run? | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:25:55] <alcy> for running clamav as qscand for integratiion with qmail-scanner, I need to have the var/run/clamav owned by qscand | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:26:12] * henk .oO( why on earth would anyone sane run qmail? ) | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:26:20] <alcy> and everything under var/run/clamav | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:26:51] <Volcane> alcy: u should configure clamav to make its socket correctly or use your unix groups to manage access to the socket, you're going down a deep dark hole :) | ||
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| [2010/07/27 01:28:59] <alcy> Volcane: I really don't know what to say, but supposedly that is a widely accepted way of doing things with qmail scanner + clamav :s ... or is it that dragging puppet into tis makes it troublesome ? | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:29:15] <Volcane> alcy: its how unix work | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:32:57] <Volcane> specifically/typically sockets like that gets restarted every time a daemon restarts | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:33:11] <Volcane> so restart clam == broken antivirus till puppet runs | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:33:29] <Volcane> no, running puppet more frequently isnt the answer :) | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:33:55] <Volcane> i mean they get recreated | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:34:20] <alcy> holy sh00t. I wonder how many more mistakes have I done/will do :( oh well, thanks Volcane, for clearing that up. | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:38:58] <henk> alcy: see above ;) | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:39:48] <alcy> henk: yeah, well either I work with qmail or get unemployed | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:40:32] <henk> ouch, tough decision... | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:42:31] <alcy> no choice. | ||
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| [2010/07/27 01:44:08] <alcy> apparently the qmail scanner versions >2.0 don't require such permissions manipulation. ... so, it *is* possible to manage the membership/access to the socket and other things. | ||
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| [2010/07/27 01:49:59] <Volcane> if you ever do something to regularly work around something like permissions from within puppet you've completely missed the point | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:50:18] <Volcane> unix is decades old, you're not the first person to have permissions issues. and in the old days sysadmins didnt have puppet | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:50:35] <Volcane> there's more or less always a solution that doesnt involve a hammer | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:51:02] <Volcane> all u need is to look at the manuals for the software and understand basic user acces to files | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:51:27] <Volcane> vast majority of mature software has config options related to group/user access to their files | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:51:33] <liamjbennett> I have a problem running the client for the first time. Issuing the command puupetd --test gives me a "Could not connect to puppet on port 8140". I imagine that this is a fairly common error but google has not provided any useful results on the matter. Any ideas? | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:52:00] <Volcane> liamjbennett: its trying to connec to a server called 'puppet' | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:52:15] <Volcane> liamjbennett: add a CNAME or host entry to make 'ping puppet' work | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:52:57] <liamjbennett> already edited /etc/hosts for that | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:53:03] <liamjbennett> ping comes back fine | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:53:25] <Volcane> and telnet puppet 8140? | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:54:19] <alcy> Volcane: not really using puppet for dirty fixing permissions, only this time around did I face this issue, which has been problematic to users. | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:54:34] <alcy> ..to suers before me | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:54:40] <alcy> *users | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:55:23] <Volcane> alcy: yup, no1 bothers doing the right thing anymore | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:55:36] <liamjbennett> telnet does indeed result in a connection refused error. I didn't realise that puppet would require ports being specifically opened up | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:56:07] <Volcane> liamjbennett: yup, the puppet master is more or less a webserver | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:56:15] <Volcane> liamjbennett: all clients need to talk with it | ||
| [2010/07/27 01:58:37] <bigon> is there any way to see if a particular class has already been included? | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:00:01] <alcy> Volcane: being sarcastic ? I don't know what to say. of course I was at fault, could have/should have read through the code and notes, but didn't expect it to deviate so much, the behavior of the code I mean | ||
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| [2010/07/27 02:03:07] <alcy> Volcane: ^^ that was more of a confession not argument :) | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:03:21] <Volcane> alcy: not being sarcastic, just a general observation | ||
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| [2010/07/27 02:03:49] <Volcane> alcy: ie. its not just you its everyone :) | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:04:26] <henk> pf, i hate hackish workarounds and i try to use everything as intended... | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:05:08] <henk> and i'm sure there are lots like me. they are just the minority compared to users who don't care or sysadmins who just do... | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:05:58] <Volcane> henk: yeah thats my point | ||
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| [2010/07/27 02:06:53] <Volcane> i feel though if you're taking the time to write puppet manifests to build your platform and investing that much time | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:07:09] <Volcane> if you're not also the kind of person who invest the time to study your toolset and configure them rather than hack them | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:08:20] <Volcane> you should probably give up now and go back to just hacking things up, cos absolutely automated hacks are a whole lot worse than hand made ones | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:10:25] <henk> fully ack | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:13:53] <liamjbennett> Volcane: telnet gives me no route to host - ideas? | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:14:58] <alcy> Volcane, henk, my situation is something like this: on one hand I have a big piece of code that contains numerous hacks, well its a frikkin OS. on the other there's puppet which as rightly pointed out, requires one to fully understand the inside-out details of whatever you are writing modules & manifests for. my job is to port that big hack into a puppet environment. so yeah there are bits &... | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:15:00] <alcy> ...pieces which I miss, don't give enough time or don't rtfm. | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:15:13] <barn> liamjbennett: ip route get puppet | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:15:26] <alcy> ...and that is changing, for sure. | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:15:39] <barn> no, that won't work, replace puppet with it's IP | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:15:51] <alcy> only thing, gotta spend some more time than one usually would. | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:16:30] <barn> liamjbennett: ip route get $( dig +search +short puppet ) | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:17:58] <liamjbennett> barn: what does this tell me? | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:18:31] <barn> the IP routing to the puppet host | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:18:35] <barn> where it's going | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:18:52] <barn> if it doesn't have a route at all, then something is bad in China town! | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:20:07] <liamjbennett> 10.6.90.120 dev eth0 src 10.6.90.107 | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:20:07] <liamjbennett> cache mtu 1500 advmss 1460 hoplimit 64 | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:21:02] <barn> hmm, so it does have a route to it | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:21:42] <henk> liamjbennett: can you paste the outputs of whatever fails and that ip route command? | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:22:23] <henk> uhm, i meant "ip route", we do have the output of _that_ ip route command... | ||
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| [2010/07/27 02:24:36] <Guest83776> hi | ||
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| [2010/07/27 02:25:31] <Fred_-> anyone could help me debug a problem with running puppetd on puppetmaster (using 2.6) ? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 02:26:35] <robthoms> Is there a way to include variable definitions for a node from an external file, such that those variables will later be accessible from classes' template's? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 02:29:26] <Fred_-> If I run facter on my puppetmaster, everything looks ok, but content of /var/puppet/yaml/facts/${fqdn}.yaml has no facts (values is empty) | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:31:15] <liamjbennett> barn: I have noticed that neither the puppetmaster nor the dns appears in the routing table - could this be the issue? | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:31:44] <barn> it's on the local LAN to it though no? | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:31:58] <liamjbennett> yes | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:32:18] <barn> it shouldn't have a specific route then | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:32:21] <liamjbennett> same subnet even | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:32:24] <liamjbennett> ok | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:32:27] <barn> they ping then? | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:32:39] <liamjbennett> yes they can both ping | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:32:43] <liamjbennett> and ssh | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:32:47] <liamjbennett> just not telnet | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:34:15] <liamjbennett> puppetd --test give the following error: err: Could not call puppetca.getcert: #<Errno::EHOSTUNREACH: No route to host - connect(2)> | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:34:16] <liamjbennett> err: Could not request certificate: Certificate retrieval failed: No route to host - connect(2) | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:38:33] <rasputnik> where's the 'submit a bug' form on the puppetlabs sites. | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:40:41] <Fred_-> Is it a mistake to manage the puppetmaster using puppet ? | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:41:36] <liamjbennett> Fred_: I don't think so | ||
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| [2010/07/27 02:42:09] <Fred_-> liamjbennett: ok thanks, so that needs debugging... | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:46:20] <liamjbennett> I think it might be an iptables issue that i'm having because when I stop the iptables service on the puppetmaster then telnet gives me a connection refused error | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:50:22] <henk> no route to host is never an issue on the target host afaik... | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:54:22] <liamjbennett> any ideas then? Because I am totally lost at this point | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:54:28] <barn> turn off the firewall | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:54:33] <barn> look at lsof to see it's listening | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:54:38] <barn> use tcpdump to see if it's talking at it | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:54:41] <barn> check arp | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:54:51] <barn> put something else on that port to see if it's puppetmaster or your networking | ||
| [2010/07/27 02:55:29] <Volcane> liamjbennett: firewalls will do no route to host | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:00:01] <Fred_-> any one knows why my environment var goes from "in environment --- production" to "in environment --- "--- \"--- \\\"--- \\\\\\\"--- \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"--- production\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\"\"" after a few runs ? | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:01:12] <sejo> is someone using this shorewall module: git://github.com/camptocamp/puppet-shorewall.git | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:01:30] <liamjbennett> issue solved: the puppetmaster wasn't starting correctly | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:01:34] <sejo> I get errors on unknown function dirname (and it does not state any dependencies) | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:01:41] <liamjbennett> thanks a lot guys | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:02:05] <Fred_-> sejo: try installing camp2camp common module | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:02:15] <sejo> Fred_-: awesome p | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:02:30] <sejo> Fred_-: you can slap me know :p | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:05:02] <Fred_-> sejo: I don't like slapping people... ask your puppet to do so! | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:06:54] <sejo> haha | ||
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| [2010/07/27 03:12:01] <alcy> folks, I have got these two defines: http://pastie.org/1061869, problem is when used separately I get a unauthorized to access error and when clubbed into a single define, it has no effect. | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:12:36] <alcy> is it possible to overwrite a value of a variable *within* a define in certain types ? | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:13:04] <groove> i think i tried that, and it didn't work | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:13:56] <groove> what do you mean by "has no effect" ? | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:15:36] <alcy> groove: if you go through the define svscripts, it manages two files under the two dirs defined in sv define. by no effect I mean, only the dirs are created (by sv define), but there are no run files made | ||
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| [2010/07/27 03:19:33] <alcy> so essentially a combined define would look like this http://pastie.org/1061878, in which case I am trying to overwrite the variable values | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:19:54] <alcy> ...which leads to no effect regarding the "run" files in it | ||
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| [2010/07/27 03:22:51] <alcy> the error is this http://pastie.org/1061889 | ||
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| [2010/07/27 03:31:06] <groove> alcy: but they work if the two defines are called separately? | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:31:38] <alcy> groove: no, that error is for both cases. | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:31:57] <groove> do you have your fileserver allow paths set up correctly? | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:32:10] <groove> and auth.conf ? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 03:43:35] <alcy> have checked 'em both. other modules/defines work just fine when accessing files or whatevr | ||
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| [2010/07/27 03:45:56] <groove> oh by the way you don't need the requires for parent directories that are managed, they are automatically required | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:46:41] <alcy> hmm, alright will remove those | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:48:07] <groove> i doubt that is the problem though | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:49:17] <groove> you definitely have the files in the correct location in your module? | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:51:22] <alcy> umm, yes. | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:53:39] <groove> can you pastie the output with --debug ? | ||
| [2010/07/27 03:58:49] <alcy> groove: http://pastie.org/1061920 | ||
| [2010/07/27 04:00:38] <alcy> groove: holy moses. | ||
| [2010/07/27 04:00:47] <groove> looks like your source paths are wrong | ||
| [2010/07/27 04:00:55] <alcy> groove: apologies. | ||
| [2010/07/27 04:01:04] <alcy> darn. | ||
| [2010/07/27 04:02:01] <groove> could have actually figured that out from the previous output but sometimes it's hard to tell these things with such long error messages ;) | ||
| [2010/07/27 04:03:06] <alcy> groove: I just assumed taht I had settled well on a few naming conventions for my modules and thought this would work perfectly. damn. just one of hose things... | ||
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| [2010/07/27 05:45:00] <tim> hi, quick question | ||
| [2010/07/27 05:46:05] <tim> is it possible to change the permissions puppet applies when it creates files in /var/lib/puppet/reports/ ? | ||
| [2010/07/27 05:46:21] <tim> I want to run a nagios check as the nagios user to read these files but currently they aren't world readable | ||
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| [2010/07/27 05:48:09] <yann2> hello! I am trying to ensure a service is running, but the name of the init script is different from the name of the service running (nagios-nrpe-server for the init script, nrpe for the daemon name) | ||
| [2010/07/27 05:48:23] <yann2> how can I do that? have been looking for documentation about that for the last two hours :( | ||
| [2010/07/27 05:48:33] <Volcane> tim: add nagios to the puppet group :( i doubt you can change it | ||
| [2010/07/27 05:48:59] <Volcane> yann2: the service type has 2 options, pattern and hasstatus that might help | ||
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| [2010/07/27 05:49:49] <yann2> where can I find documentation about those? I must suck at googling | ||
| [2010/07/27 05:50:52] <ghaskins_mobile> do I have access to all facter variables in an .erb template? | ||
| [2010/07/27 05:51:57] <Volcane> yann2: ref:type | ||
| [2010/07/27 05:51:58] <gepetto> Volcane: yann2: ref:type is http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/latest/type.html "Puppet Labs" | ||
| [2010/07/27 05:52:04] <yann2> thansk | ||
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| [2010/07/27 06:00:23] <th668> with puppet can i have it run a bash command on each server? | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:00:53] <hal-j> yes, but it's probably not the right tool if you want to kick a single command off on all servers, manually | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:01:37] <th668> hal-j so what would be a simple example? | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:01:54] <hal-j> but it's the right tool to use if you want to periodically check one or more conditions and then kick off that bash command as a result of those conditions, on several servers (although the servers won't run in sync with each other) | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:02:00] <groove> can any dashboard/foreman developers tell me what the status is of parametrized class support in their respective tools? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 06:02:12] <hal-j> so I think really, the question is "what is it that you're trying to do" :) | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:02:19] <th668> ok, thats somewhat what i want to do | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:02:35] <th668> like i want to run php -v on a server for example | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:03:16] <yann2> have a look at http://www.theether.org/pssh/ | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:03:19] <hal-j> I'm going to drive you nuts and ask questions, so don't hate me :) | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:03:38] <yann2> well here actually http://code.google.com/p/parallel-ssh/ | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:03:42] <hal-j> are you interested in knowing what version is on all servers, or are you just interested in making sure a specific version is on all servers | ||
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| [2010/07/27 06:04:12] <th668> actually, both | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:04:14] <hal-j> pssh/cssh/etc… are all good for talking to N servers interactively | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:04:32] <hal-j> I'd suggest capistrano for a "run this command on N servers, right now" | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:04:53] <groove> ohadlevy: ping? | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:05:52] <hal-j> th668: puppet can also be used to "just make sure php version X is installed" | ||
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| [2010/07/27 06:06:42] <hal-j> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/stable/type.html#exec is what you want to use, if you want to run some command on the server, using puppet | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:07:12] <th668> ok, sweet! | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:07:44] <hal-j> but I suspect that the actual problem that needs solving, is making sure you have the right version installed, not reporting what version IS installed :) | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:07:49] <hal-j> which you'd want to look at http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/stable/type.html#package for | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:07:51] <dcarley> if you want to report something (like a version) then i'd suggest writing a fact. | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:07:58] <hal-j> dcarley: +1 | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:08:07] <th668> also hal-j there is this answer in the knowledgebase | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:08:08] <th668> http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions#My+servers+are+all+unique;+can+Puppet+still+help? | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:08:16] <th668> but where can i read how to implement something like that? | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:08:22] <dcarley> then you can reuse the fact all over the shop. | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:08:25] <hal-j> but I'm working on the assumption that the problem here is not "what version am I running" but rather "I want to run version X" | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:08:47] <hal-j> and wanting to report the version is a trust issue, and not the actual problem at hand :) | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:08:53] <hal-j> I could be wrong | ||
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| [2010/07/27 06:09:22] <hal-j> th668: "my servers are all unique" - congrats, welcome to reality :) | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:09:25] <progre55> hello ladies and gens =) | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:10:06] <progre55> so, I have a node under /etc/puppet/nodes/ and the files is called autosshnode.pp | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:10:30] <progre55> then in my site.pp I say "import 'nodes/*'" | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:10:48] <progre55> but it's not importing and says "Error 400 on SERVER: Could not parse for environment production: No file(s) found for import of 'nodes/*' at /etc/puppet/manifests/site.pp" | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:10:53] <progre55> suggestions, please? | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:11:13] <groove> because nodes is expected to be under manifests | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:11:35] <progre55> oh I see | ||
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| [2010/07/27 06:11:40] <progre55> groove: thanks | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:11:44] <groove> no probs | ||
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| [2010/07/27 06:12:58] <progre55> oh, now I get this "Error 400 on SERVER: Could not find default node or by name with '*******', '******'" =) | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:13:15] <progre55> well, there are fqdns instead of ***** of course ) | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:14:17] <hal-j> and do you have a default node, and/or nodes defined as '*******' or '******' | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:15:32] <progre55> I have one node only, denoted with a regexp | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:15:58] <progre55> ode /^.+\.amazonaws\.com$/ { ... } | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:16:03] <progre55> oops, node* | ||
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| [2010/07/27 06:16:29] <groove> and does hostname -f from that node match your regex? | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:16:35] <hal-j> and does that match your hostname? | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:16:39] <groove> beware of trailing dots! | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:16:54] <barn> bearing gifts! | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:17:02] <groove> if you have autosign turned on, you might get a clue from the output of puppetca -l -a | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:17:08] <hal-j> FWIW - you can set up a node named "default" which is a catchall for any node not otherwise matched | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:17:20] <progre55> groove: nope, I dont have autosign | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:17:33] <yann2> if I wanted to do an automated check to see if puppet is running properly (to the opposite of failing to connect to the puppetmaster, or not running at all), what would be the best way? | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:17:35] <progre55> hal-j: let me check it once more if it matches | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:17:37] <groove> ok, then check with puppetca -l | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:17:45] <hal-j> shouldn't matter. puppetca —list will give you a list of requested certs | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:17:47] <progre55> groove: aha | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:18:11] <hal-j> ok, groove is typing faster than me, and saying the same things. /me shuts up | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:18:25] <groove> dvorak man | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:18:54] <progre55> oops, apparently it doesnt match =) | ||
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| [2010/07/27 06:20:19] <vad3R> yann2: Why not run puppetd manually in noop mode? This will not give you a guarantee that the running daemon still works but you can check the connection and catalog retrieval | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:20:55] <yann2> its for automated testing, I dont want to run it every time I check if puppetd is running :( | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:21:23] <groove> something like dashboard or foreman will give you an idea of how your nodes are functioning | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:21:39] <groove> they give stats on runs, failed runs etc | ||
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| [2010/07/27 06:28:27] <progre55> anybody with the knowledge of linux? =) I have a script in /etc/init/autossh1.conf | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:28:38] <progre55> and I generally run it by "sudo start autossh1" | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:28:55] <progre55> but now I was trying to run it by a puppet, and get this "err: //autossh/Service[autossh1]/ensure: change from stopped to running failed: Could not find init script for 'autossh1'" | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:29:17] <progre55> and the debug says "debug: Service[autossh1](provider=debian): Could not find autossh1 in /etc/init.d" | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:29:47] <progre55> but the server is ubuntu 10.04, it doesnt have to be in init.d | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:29:53] <progre55> as far as I know.. | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:30:14] <Dominic> perhaps you need provider as upstart, rather than debian (probably old sysV style init.d) | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:30:44] <progre55> Dominic: how/where do I specify the provider? | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:31:25] <Dominic> oh, ignore me, puppet doesn't support upstart yet by the looks of it, I thought it did | ||
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| [2010/07/27 06:31:40] <progre55> too bad ) | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:31:47] <progre55> Dominic: thanks | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:31:55] <Dominic> for reference though, it's an attribute of the Service type (you could specify a default) | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:31:55] <progre55> so does it mean I'd have to rewrite the script? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 06:35:25] <hal-j> you could write upstart support and contribute it back :P | ||
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| [2010/07/27 06:38:08] <progre55> hal-j: yeah right =) I can barely re-write my own tiny script )) | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:38:25] <groove> repeat: can any dashboard/foreman developers tell me what the status is of parametrized class support in their respective tools? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 06:39:41] <joe-mac1> Volcane, thanks for thje quick fix for extlookup, that was a show stopper for 2.6 move for me, you too i suppose | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:40:08] <Volcane> quite :) | ||
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| [2010/07/27 06:54:44] <Legooolas> Volcane: Was it you with the handy blog post about environments? I can't find it in my history and was wondering if it had useful insights over the "Using_Multiple_Environments" twiki page | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:54:58] <Volcane> Legooolas: www.devco.net look at the puppet tag | ||
| [2010/07/27 06:55:14] <Legooolas> Volcane: Cool, ta. | ||
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| [2010/07/27 07:05:24] <bleon> hi there | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:06:09] <bleon> anbody knows if it is possible to do somethin like : require => realize(mydefinition['foo']) | ||
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| [2010/07/27 07:16:13] <Days`> Hello there, how can i install only the agent with the 2.6.0 release ? i can't see any optioon on install.rb , and it doesn't seems to be documented on README | ||
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| [2010/07/27 07:17:05] <Days`> Also i would like to notice that the example provided with the archive is wrong for the rack file (config.ru) and should be changed | ||
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| [2010/07/27 07:18:44] <tmz> Days`: install via a package for your system. Most packages have seperate client and server packages. | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:19:32] <Days`> tmz: the package version on lenny is too old :) | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:20:09] <Days`> (it's 0.24.5) | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:20:13] <jmeeuwen> get it from testing or unstable | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:20:14] <tmz> Days`: I'm not a debian user, but I believe there are backports for lenny. | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:20:39] <tmz> If not, there are handy instructuons in the list archives for generating a fresh .deb from git. | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:20:45] <Days`> tmz , sure , but i would like to get the 2.6 release since i will use new features | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:21:13] <Days`> jmeeuwen: this is not possible on our production envs | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:21:25] <tmz> Days`: Then you want to build via the git buildpackage route. | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:21:51] <tmz> Installing via anything other than a proper OS package is just pain in the making. | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:21:56] <jmeeuwen> Days`, then, *obtain* it from testing / unstable, and push it out through your own software repositories | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:22:36] <jmeeuwen> Days`, i'm sure that you have other software deployment mechanisms then the proverbial ./configure && make && make install on all systems separately? | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:22:36] <Days`> tmz: hmm, i have just installed the server, was easy and works just fine under passenger. | ||
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| [2010/07/27 07:23:35] <Days`> jmeeuwen: hmmm, i should check the dependancies first for that | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:23:53] <jmeeuwen> this is actually a funny predicament; you won't install packages from testing or unstable, but you will ./configure/make/make install? | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:24:27] <Days`> actually it was just ruby install.rb | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:24:34] <Days`> :D | ||
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| [2010/07/27 07:25:31] <jmeeuwen> Days`, sorry i forgot the "proverbial" in that last sentence... god... | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:27:22] <jamesturnbull> packages ... packages are your friend | ||
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| [2010/07/27 07:28:05] <Days`> hmmm.. sure they are, but they are so outdated on debian , even with backports | ||
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| [2010/07/27 07:33:42] <tmz> Days`: Search the puppet-users list, look for git-buildpackage I believe. It's really fairly easy to build updated packages. | ||
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| [2010/07/27 07:38:44] <joe-mac1> i grab the .dsc from ftp.ubuntu with dget, then you do dpkg-source -x && cd puppet-2.6.0 && dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -kyourgpgkey@somesite.com | ||
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| [2010/07/27 07:39:04] <joe-mac1> then i stuff it in my custom in house repo and call ti a day | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:39:13] <joe-mac1> next time i runa pt-get upgrades, my nodes haz new pupept | ||
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| [2010/07/27 07:53:18] <webworm> hi, I'm having problems with puppet 2.6 when using different environments and modules ( http://pastebin.com/rkH6y0fF) : Skipping because of failed dependencies | ||
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| [2010/07/27 07:55:30] <stevenjenkins> has anyone heard anything about an update to the puppet book? | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:55:38] <vad3R> webworm: Can you post the definition of /File[/var/lib/puppet/lib] | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:56:15] <webworm> vad3R: do you mean the contents of the dir on the client? | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:56:39] <vad3R> first of all the puppet definition | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:57:50] <webworm> vad3R: thanks for the help, but unfortunate I don't understand what you are asking for... how can I look it up? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 07:58:11] <tmz> Odds are good that it's an internally generated file resource, not manually specified in the manifests. | ||
| [2010/07/27 07:58:40] <vad3R> the part of your puppet manifest where the file resource "/var/lib/puppet/lib" is defined | ||
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| [2010/07/27 07:59:58] <webworm> bummer, he's gone. I don't have any reference to /var/lib/puppet/lib in my manifests | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:01:54] <tmz> webworm: As I said, Odds are good that it's an internally generated file resource, not manually specified in the manifests. | ||
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| [2010/07/27 08:02:11] <tmz> So worrying about that definition is probably not the source of your issue. | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:03:41] <webworm> tmz: ok, I think I understand that, but how to fix it? where should I start looking (I'm new to puppet) | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:03:50] <dcarley> tmz: correct, it'll be pluginsync. | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:04:38] <webworm> the files are synced however: http://pastebin.com/zyizizSw | ||
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| [2010/07/27 08:09:52] <tmz> webworm: I'm not sure. I didn't look too closely at the configs. If you can get things working without environments first, that's probably a good start. Then add them to the mix and see what breaks. Someone else might notice a problem in your configs or know of an existing bug. | ||
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| [2010/07/27 08:10:21] <hal-j> curious - has anyone written anything to parse manifests, taking into account includes and inheritance, and determine all classes that aren't used by a series of nodes? | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:10:47] <hal-j> if not, I'm about to write one | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:12:08] <webworm> tmz: okay, I'll have to try that then..., however my environments work fine when I don't use modules that are using a custom provider | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:13:01] <webworm> jmccune: would you mind looking at http://pastebin.com/rkH6y0fF ? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 08:21:40] <webworm> tmz: I see this too in the apache log: wopr.UGent.be:8140 157.193.49.202 - - [27/Jul/2010:17:10:56 +0200] "GET /development/file_metadata/plugins HTTP/1.1" 404 36 "-" "-" | ||
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| [2010/07/27 08:23:09] <joe-mac1> webworm: can you show me your puppet.conf where you config your environments? | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:23:19] <joe-mac1> and to clarify, is this .25 or 2.6? | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:23:53] <webworm> 2.6, sure: http://pastebin.com/AdEbC19v | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:25:18] <joe-mac1> interesting, you're getting a 404 so this is unlikely but can the puppet user read those files? | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:25:58] <joe-mac1> is this passenger or mod_proxy webworm? | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:26:23] <webworm> passenger, the files are world readable | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:27:24] <joe-mac1> have yuo ensured version compatibility? passenger is kind of finicky wrt using it for puppet | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:27:38] <joe-mac1> i had set it up and had ti pretty much working, but there were other issues i was seeing, can you paste your apache config? | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:27:50] <webworm> yep, I had it working on 0.25.x | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:28:18] <joe-mac1> ah, so as soon as you upgraded it stopped working? interesting. i have only tried passenger with 2.6 | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:28:19] <webworm> and now I have it working on 2.6 for a node that isn't using these modules | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:28:39] <webworm> joe-mac1: no it didn't work before too :) then it was a bug | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:28:45] <webworm> or know not to work | ||
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| [2010/07/27 08:33:41] <akriventsov> Hello, is anyone using puppet 2.6.0 on freebsd server? I have error "err: Could not run Puppet configuration client: undefined method `error' for #<Puppet::Type::Service::ProviderFreebsd:0x803405e10>" what does it mean? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 08:34:17] <joe-mac1> bug maybe, h/o | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:34:19] <thomas01> how can i have puppet create a user? | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:34:34] <tim|mac> thomas01: user { "thomas": } | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:35:02] <tim|mac> thomas01: you might want to take a look at the type reference | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:35:49] <thomas01> have a link? | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:35:55] <akriventsov> i can give access to sandbox for some tests on freebsd | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:35:58] <joe-mac1> weird, akriventsov that provider uses this self.error method, usually in the code i have become familiar with lately Puppet::Error is used for stuff like that | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:36:07] <tim|mac> thomas01: http://docs.puppetlabs.com and go from there | ||
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| [2010/07/27 08:36:42] <joe-mac1> akriventsov: i'm sure PL has them, but i'll take the access to test for them cause i like the ruby practice | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:38:35] <thomas01> @ time|mac and I can place this in the site.pp file? | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:39:25] <alcy> thomas01: you can, but you probably want to read the best practices section as well...at least the "modules" part | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:40:16] <thomas01> hmm...didn't work | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:40:22] <thomas01> i ran puppetd --test | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:40:44] <thomas01> the configuration version changed | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:40:46] <thomas01> but nothing else | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:40:54] <tim|mac> thomas01: did you add it to a node definition? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 08:41:09] <thomas01> no. | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:41:15] <thomas01> what you gave me is all i have in my site.pp | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:41:20] <tim|mac> thomas01: i recommend you start with reading the tutorial | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:41:21] <thomas01> and i don't have any other files in /manifests | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:41:29] <thomas01> which tutorial? | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:41:33] <thomas01> nothing seems to provide any useful info | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:41:58] <webworm> thanks for the all, I'm going home :) | ||
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| [2010/07/27 08:42:19] <tim|mac> thomas01: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/language_tutorial.html | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:42:34] <thomas01> ok | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:42:35] <thomas01> thanks! | ||
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| [2010/07/27 08:43:03] <akriventsov> joe-mac1: can you give to me your ssh public key? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 08:46:07] <joe-mac1> akriventsov: http://www.pastie.org/1062258 | ||
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| [2010/07/27 08:47:41] <akriventsov> joe-mac1: i need public key, but you send to me private key | ||
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| [2010/07/27 08:51:51] <joe-mac1> awesome | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:51:54] <Volcane> haha | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:51:54] <joe-mac1> fucking great | ||
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| [2010/07/27 08:51:58] <joe-mac1> facepalm | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:52:00] <Volcane> epic lol :) | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:52:23] <joe-mac1> h/o, need to change my shit now | ||
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| [2010/07/27 08:52:37] <jmslagle> Hrm. | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:52:38] <joe-mac1> at least there's like a 40 character pass on it | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:52:46] <jmslagle> ruby-sqlite3 vs rubygem-sqlite3-ruby | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:53:01] <jmslagle> They seem to be different versions of a similiar or the same thing | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:53:03] <jmslagle> Under EPEL | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:55:47] <akriventsov> joe-mac1: ok, you can send it to akriventsov@hc.ru, than I will give you access | ||
| [2010/07/27 08:56:07] <joe-mac1> yea, gotta commit and deploy that change, what a shitty shitty happening for today lol | ||
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| [2010/07/27 10:08:45] <tholl> hi | ||
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| [2010/07/27 10:09:37] <tholl> at the end of the simple pattern and advanced pattern tutorial, i seem to have a sudo class in manifests/classes/sudo.pp | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:10:10] <tholl> and a sudo module that specifies another class sudo in the its init.pp file | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:10:38] <tholl> presumably i am supposed to delete the sudo.pp file from classes? | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:12:30] <tholl> if I do "node basenode { \include sudo \}" | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:12:39] <tholl> does include only apply to modules? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 10:20:48] <Volcane> tholl: sounds like you should delete that class yeah | ||
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| [2010/07/27 10:23:10] <joe-mac1> this is weird, is anybody seeing that someimtes .25.4 nodes report the puppetversion fact as .25.3 | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:23:21] <joe-mac1> it seems to be switching back and forth between .25.3 and .25.4 | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:23:26] <joe-mac1> on some nodes | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:28:34] <mikey_p> is there a way to include definitions with external nodes? | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:28:47] <Volcane> no | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:29:03] <Volcane> should put them in classes | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:29:46] <mikey_p> okay, still wrapping my head around all this | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:31:32] <mikey_p> my use case is, i'd like to have a generic webserver class that has a definition for a vhost, if i'm using external nodes, can I fetch the vhost config externally? | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:32:41] <Volcane> make a class apache::generic_vhost | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:32:46] <Volcane> add the resource in there and include it | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:32:59] <Volcane> if you need to set variables for the node, they'll be "global" so visible to the class | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:34:03] <mikey_p> so that would work if I have 1 vhost? how could I do multiple? | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:34:31] <Volcane> classes, lots of classes | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:34:56] <Volcane> external nodes cant create any resources at all at present - they might soon though | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:35:20] <mikey_p> sounds like i'd be better off skipping external nodes for now | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:35:35] <Volcane> best to avoid putting resources in nodes | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:35:46] <Volcane> what do you specifically gain by putting a vhost in node {} rather than in a class? | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:36:27] <mikey_p> well ideally i'd rather not have the vhosts in code at all and just pull from a db | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:36:39] <Volcane> external nodes cant do that for you either | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:36:59] <mikey_p> yeah, i can see that now... | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:37:47] <Volcane> if you have tons of vhosts you might find writing something like a parser function could be an option | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:37:52] <Volcane> have that query your data source for details | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:37:59] <tholl> should i have any classes under /etc/puppet/manifests/classes ? or should they all be under my module? | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:38:27] <nico> in your modules | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:38:37] <Volcane> tholl: best to stick to modules for everything | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:39:13] <slapayoda> can someone point me in the right direction if I want to have a file resource be pulled in dynamically from svn on each catalog run? | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:39:59] <slapayoda> I think somebody came up with something for that, but I can't remember what it's called... | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:40:09] <nico> cron ? | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:40:13] * nico hides | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:40:25] <nico> slapayoda: jamesturnbull wrote a svn type | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:40:27] <Volcane> there's a vcsrepo type on puppet forge | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:40:28] <nico> iirc | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:40:36] <slapayoda> vcsrepo, I think that's it. thanks | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:43:45] <tholl> if i import a module with classes, are the classes available to other modules? | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:44:15] <Volcane> if you use modules correctly, you almost never need to think about import | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:44:18] <Volcane> it should just work | ||
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| [2010/07/27 10:46:09] <CalifGuy_> where can I get puppet 2.6 rpms | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:48:29] <chadh_> CalifGuy_: tmz repos. just a sec | ||
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| [2010/07/27 10:49:19] <tmz> CalifGuy_: http://tmz.fedorapeople.org/repo/puppet/ ;) | ||
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| [2010/07/27 10:49:51] <chadh_> ah, you beat me to it. just found it | ||
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| [2010/07/27 10:50:08] <CalifGuy_> chadh_ and tmz, you guys are the best | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:50:55] <tmz> CalifGuy_: Keep in mind those are the latest, 2.6.1rc1. though 2.6.0 is there, if you want to specify the version. | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:51:23] <tmz> If you only ever want specific stable releases, take care when enabling that repo. | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:51:23] <CalifGuy_> cool | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:51:41] <CalifGuy_> whats the relevant ruby rpm should I look into? | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:53:49] <Volcane> the one from your distro | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:54:33] <CalifGuy_> cool | ||
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| [2010/07/27 10:57:51] <tmz> CalifGuy_: Also worth noting that there are known bugs with the activerecord package in EL-5. If you enable storeconfigs, you may have issues with leaking file descriptors. | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:58:41] <CalifGuy_> tmz, does your repo contain activerecord package? | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:58:45] <eric0> i'm a little unclear on pluginsync-- does it still need to be on if you use plugins-in-modules? turning it on the clients causes them to look for a puppet://puppet/plugins path which seems at odds with the modules/foo/lib setup | ||
| [2010/07/27 10:59:59] <tmz> CalifGuy_: No, there's not a clean way to update that (that I've worked out yet). | ||
| [2010/07/27 11:00:36] <CalifGuy_> how abt epel ruby packages? | ||
| [2010/07/27 11:00:47] <CalifGuy_> are they better than EL-5 repos? | ||
| [2010/07/27 11:03:09] <tmz> CalifGuy_: EPEL doesn't override any packages in RHEL/CentOS | ||
| [2010/07/27 11:03:27] <CalifGuy_> ic | ||
| [2010/07/27 11:04:12] <tmz> CalifGuy_: FWIW, the bug I filed a while back is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572722 and #3693. | ||
| [2010/07/27 11:04:13] <gepetto> tmz: CalifGuy_: #3693 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/3693 "Puppet - Bug #3693: Puppetmaster leaves sockets open when using storeconfigs with rails-2.1.3 - Puppet Labs" | ||
| [2010/07/27 11:04:45] <tmz> No real movement on either. Someday it'll either be irrelevant or someone with time and concern will work on a fix. | ||
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| [2010/07/27 11:19:54] <chadh> CalifGuy_: I ended up going with standalone REE and rails/puppet gems. Not that I recommend it :) | ||
| [2010/07/27 11:20:12] <chadh> Haven't exactly figured out how to upgrade | ||
| [2010/07/27 11:20:17] <CalifGuy_> i see | ||
| [2010/07/27 11:21:05] <chadh> that was back for 0.25, actually. | ||
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| [2010/07/27 11:27:03] <tholl> it seems that without defines like "line" from the common module from David Schmitt loads of config file management is really hard | ||
| [2010/07/27 11:27:23] <tholl> is there an alternative to "line" in the defaults for adding some stanzas to a config file? | ||
| [2010/07/27 11:28:08] <chadh> tholl: augeas | ||
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| [2010/07/27 11:31:02] <tholl> chadh: cool, looks good | ||
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| [2010/07/27 11:45:55] <tholl> would i include my site specific nodes.pp file in my module? | ||
| [2010/07/27 11:46:01] <tholl> as the module is pretty site specific | ||
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| [2010/07/27 11:49:07] <craftytech_> Can someone share an external node classifier that I can use with https? | ||
| [2010/07/27 11:51:12] <eric0> not sure what you mean 'use with https', there are a couple in the ext/ directory of source distribution | ||
| [2010/07/27 11:51:54] <mikey_p> is there a naming standard for the directories that contain modules? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 11:54:14] <craftytech_> let me check those... thanks Eric.. btw: I specify https cause the one in ruby that comes with foreman doesn't work with https.. only with http | ||
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| [2010/07/27 12:01:39] <eric0> that doesn't make much sense, but OK | ||
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| [2010/07/27 12:03:04] <craftytech_> the one provided with the foreman distro user NET::HTTP class which doens't seem to be able to handle https... since I'm not a programmer... I'm trying to find an alternative | ||
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| [2010/07/27 12:15:42] <mikey_p> what do I need to do to puppetmasterd after update my manifests, or a module? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 12:24:01] <odyi> Nothing | ||
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| [2010/07/27 12:25:01] <odyi> Changes while be in affect when the next client checks in and a catalogue is built. | ||
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| [2010/07/27 12:27:38] <mikey_p> hrm, looks like i need to fix the fqdn of the puppetmaster | ||
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| [2010/07/27 12:36:02] <mikey_p> hi, any idea how to resolve "Failed to retrieve current state of resource: Mounts without paths are not usable" | ||
| [2010/07/27 12:36:48] <chadh> mikey_p: pastie the mount resource. Sounds like you just need an absolute path to the mount src or dst | ||
| [2010/07/27 12:37:36] <mikey_p> chadh: that's the full error: http://pastie.org/1062640 | ||
| [2010/07/27 12:38:57] <chadh> can you add the file resource definition? | ||
| [2010/07/27 12:41:30] <mikey_p> chadh: http://pastie.org/1062645 that's just the simplest example, but all files are failing in the same way | ||
| [2010/07/27 12:43:04] <chadh> what version of puppet are the master and client using? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 12:43:49] <mikey_p> master => 0.25.4, client => 0.24.5 | ||
| [2010/07/27 12:44:23] <chadh> mikey_p: I think that's the problem. The 0.24 clients don't work with the puppet:///modules/... in the path | ||
| [2010/07/27 12:44:41] <mikey_p> i suppose the easiest step is to update the clients? | ||
| [2010/07/27 12:44:46] <chadh> If you remove the /modules, it should work, although the master may generate a deprecation warning | ||
| [2010/07/27 12:45:11] <chadh> mikey_p: depends on how easy it is to update the clients ;-) | ||
| [2010/07/27 12:46:42] * mikey_p takes this as yet another sign that he should have spent more time before willing mixing debian/ubuntu clients | ||
| [2010/07/27 12:47:25] <fenris02> do all the classes from example42 mesh properly with puppet 26? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 13:00:09] <joe-mac1> nice how getent group on openbsd doesn't put : at the end of each line like getent on linux | ||
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| [2010/07/27 13:02:49] <fenris02> standards are awesome. the best part is that there are so many standards to choose from. | ||
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| [2010/07/27 13:11:05] <emag> joe-mac1: if it makes you feel better, getent on solaris 2.8 puts the : on the same as linux | ||
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| [2010/07/27 13:28:24] <BLZbubba> ok i have an annoying problem - i am trying to create a user whose default group is not the same as the username | ||
| [2010/07/27 13:28:24] <BLZbubba> is this possible with puppet? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 13:29:51] <nico> BLZbubba: of course | ||
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| [2010/07/27 13:31:18] <BLZbubba> rm -rf netsplits | ||
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| [2010/07/27 13:36:20] <ashp> dell are terrible :/ | ||
| [2010/07/27 13:36:35] <ashp> why can't they keep their little fancy firmware repo up to date for servers, how hard is this to do | ||
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| [2010/07/27 13:37:44] <fenris02> apparently, quite difficult for them. perhaps its related to them laying off their workforce quarterly. | ||
| [2010/07/27 13:38:32] <ashp> yeah, probably, this was released in may so you think they'd have got on to it | ||
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| [2010/07/27 13:53:27] <tholl> in the source attribute for the file type sometimes the modules have puppet:///modules/modulename/file.txt and some times puppet:///modulename/file.txt | ||
| [2010/07/27 13:53:33] <tholl> is one preferred? | ||
| [2010/07/27 13:53:59] <hal-j> the first is preferred in newer puppets while the second is deprecated | ||
| [2010/07/27 13:54:03] <hal-j> IIRC | ||
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| [2010/07/27 13:59:04] <tholl> hal-j: cool thanks | ||
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| [2010/07/27 14:36:29] <Guest79150> hi - i've got essentially a test lab with puppet 0.25.4 and a small set of manifests. puppetd appears to be leaking memory after each catalog run... | ||
| [2010/07/27 14:36:49] <Guest79150> like after a week it will grow from 50M to 1G resident | ||
| [2010/07/27 14:37:10] <Guest79150> wondering if there's something obvious that i've done wrong or how to determine why this is happening | ||
| [2010/07/27 14:38:00] <BLZbubba> that is quite a fast leak | ||
| [2010/07/27 14:38:08] <BLZbubba> mine grow but not that fast | ||
| [2010/07/27 14:38:11] <Guest79150> uh yeah | ||
| [2010/07/27 14:38:22] <BLZbubba> maybe run it from cron | ||
| [2010/07/27 14:38:29] <BLZbubba> that is a workaround not a fix, of course | ||
| [2010/07/27 14:38:51] <Guest79150> it may be partly related to the frequency in the test environment. i twas doing a catalog every 5 minutes - i'm sure typical production deployment is more like every hour | ||
| [2010/07/27 14:39:50] <Guest79150> well yeah. run it from cron is kinda not a warm and fuzzy answer for something i'm depending on | ||
| [2010/07/27 14:40:21] <Guest79150> then i have to scrape logs to make sure its really executing and server skew needs to be managed by hand (i wager) | ||
| [2010/07/27 14:41:38] <Guest79150> it seems there's been little hints of a leak in the client daemon (some hits in google) but i haven't seen any real answers or acknowledgement of a problem | ||
| [2010/07/27 14:42:05] <Guest79150> would expect it would have some attention by now... | ||
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| [2010/07/27 14:46:45] <tholl> in the common module from David Schmitt I see a "include common" in the init.pp file for the module, why is that there | ||
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| [2010/07/27 17:14:30] <tholl> what happens if you notify a service that doesnt exit? | ||
| [2010/07/27 17:14:37] <tholl> exist? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 17:15:54] <Volcane> u cant | ||
| [2010/07/27 17:15:58] <Volcane> doesnt compile | ||
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| [2010/07/27 17:16:43] <tholl> how does puppet know what services are available during comile time? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 17:23:22] <Volcane> it only nkow what you tell it exist | ||
| [2010/07/27 17:23:23] <Volcane> you need service{"httpd":...} before you can notify => Service["httpd"] | ||
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| [2010/07/27 17:23:24] <tholl> Volcane: righto, i getcha | ||
| [2010/07/27 17:23:24] <tholl> thnx | ||
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| [2010/07/27 17:24:13] <tholl> can i temporarily disable a node which i am testing it from the command line with --noop? | ||
| [2010/07/27 17:24:27] <tholl> i guess i can stop the daemon | ||
| [2010/07/27 17:24:49] <Volcane> while a --noop is running, the daemon cant run | ||
| [2010/07/27 17:24:58] <Volcane> it might be in the process tree but its idle | ||
| [2010/07/27 17:25:02] <Volcane> puppetd --disable | ||
| [2010/07/27 17:25:04] <Volcane> then | ||
| [2010/07/27 17:25:14] <Volcane> puppetd --enable && puppetd --test && puppetd --disable | ||
| [2010/07/27 17:25:16] <Volcane> or something | ||
| [2010/07/27 17:25:30] <Volcane> well make that --test --noop | ||
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| [2010/07/27 17:33:53] <zenunix> hi | ||
| [2010/07/27 17:34:23] <zenunix> has anyone got puppet to work on hp-ux | ||
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| [2010/07/27 17:55:54] <tholl> what is the @ character used for ? | ||
| [2010/07/27 17:56:00] <darkfade1> hi, does it make sense for puppet to define a freebsd jail as "isvirtual false" | ||
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| [2010/07/27 17:56:04] <tholl> @service | ||
| [2010/07/27 17:56:48] <Volcane> tholl: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Virtual_Resources | ||
| [2010/07/27 17:56:51] <darkfade1> tholl: havent got one in my config ... yet :) | ||
| [2010/07/27 17:57:45] <tholl> oh thnkx | ||
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| [2010/07/27 17:58:54] <tholl> i am creating a service on the fly, there are bunch of file resources that are edited and need to notify | ||
| [2010/07/27 17:59:14] <tholl> do they save up their notify until the end, or does each change to a file resource cause a restart? | ||
| [2010/07/27 17:59:56] <Volcane> they all notify, and it triggers the notify just once | ||
| [2010/07/27 18:00:16] <tholl> hmm | ||
| [2010/07/27 18:01:03] <tholl> i have to declare the service after the files that make it up like file, file, service | ||
| [2010/07/27 18:01:24] <Volcane> order doesnt matter | ||
| [2010/07/27 18:01:27] <tholl> is it possile to declare a placeholder for a service so it can be notified once it has been put together, ie the init scripts etc | ||
| [2010/07/27 18:02:36] <Volcane> u dont need to do that | ||
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| [2010/07/27 18:02:58] <Volcane> if u notify something, the service will restart after all notifies have been received | ||
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| [2010/07/27 18:04:04] <tholl> Volcane: cool | ||
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| [2010/07/27 19:33:52] <craftytech_> hello | ||
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| [2010/07/27 19:36:33] <mikey_p_> I'm getting the following error when trying to connect a client: "err: Could not request certificate: undefined method 'closed?' for nil:NilClass" | ||
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| [2010/07/27 20:03:00] <craftytech_> has anyone defined a node with a class in foreman, but when you run puppetd -t, it doesn't execute the class.... no error messages either.... | ||
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| [2010/07/27 20:12:13] <vorlon2261> Afternoon all! | ||
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| [2010/07/27 20:24:03] <vorlon2261> Anyone seen this issue on dashboard 1.0.1: | ||
| [2010/07/27 20:24:08] <vorlon2261> Could not autoload ral: uninitialized constant Puppet::Indirector::Code | ||
| [2010/07/27 20:25:15] <vorlon2261> (came up when doing a rake db:schema:load) | ||
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| [2010/07/27 20:35:15] <larne> is it possible to update /etc/motd on freebsd without setting update_motd=NO? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 21:35:21] <ReinH> vorlon2261: yes, 1.0.1 has that bug, but if you update to the latest git you'll be fine | ||
| [2010/07/27 21:35:30] <ReinH> vorlon2261: we're trying to get an official release out asap | ||
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| [2010/07/27 21:38:00] <Djelibeybi> ReinH: any idea if Dashboard supports Oracle? | ||
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| [2010/07/27 21:45:26] <ReinH> Djelibeybi: it doesn't currently | ||
| [2010/07/27 21:45:31] <vorlon2261> ReinH: Thanks... | ||
| [2010/07/27 21:45:44] <vorlon2261> Will grab the latest snapshot and try again... | ||
| [2010/07/27 21:46:03] <ReinH> Djelibeybi: once we get rid of the non-portable sql, it should be able to run with activerecord's oracle adapter | ||
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| [2010/07/27 21:46:27] <Djelibeybi> ReinH: will be looking forward to testing that. :) I have my 2.6 Puppet Masters running storeconfigs into Oracle now. | ||
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| [2010/07/27 22:18:41] <ReinH> Djelibeybi: noted :) | ||
| [2010/07/27 22:25:11] <vorlon2261> ReinH: You got a URL for the dashboard repo? | ||
| [2010/07/27 22:26:09] <ReinH> http://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet-dashboard | ||
| [2010/07/27 22:28:12] <vorlon2261> Thanks! | ||
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| [2010/07/27 23:10:03] <vorlon2261> ReinH - current rev seems to be working - thanks! | ||
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| [2010/07/27 23:14:36] <ReinH> vorlon2261: cheers | ||
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