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| [2010/07/31 00:10:22] <skeeziks> Hm, perhaps I should move to cron with a splay setting... | ||
| [2010/07/31 00:10:38] <skeeziks> root | ||
| [2010/07/31 00:10:42] <skeeziks> mt | ||
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| [2010/07/31 00:39:51] <madduck> odyi: http://git.madduck.net/v/puppet/modules/puppet.git — I am in the process of working on it, so expect changed | ||
| [2010/07/31 00:39:54] <madduck> changes | ||
| [2010/07/31 00:41:06] <odyi> madduck: cool idea | ||
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| [2010/07/31 00:41:18] <madduck> yeah, i am quite happy with it | ||
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| [2010/07/31 00:56:06] <madduck> if I want to autoload a class debian::apt, does it have to be in the debian module? or can I make a debian_apt module? | ||
| [2010/07/31 00:56:19] <alcy> not sure if this is puppet-specific, but as I understand it, if ensure is set to latest for a package, puppet will read the output from apt-cache policy <pkgname> and install the latest version. In my case, the latest version is available from the backports. but apt can't install from backports directly unless apt preferences have been set accordingly or its called explicitly with the -t option. | ||
| [2010/07/31 00:57:36] <alcy> so, maybe the apt provider could be modified accordingly, so that if such is the case (latest being available from backports), it would add the -t option accordingly. | ||
| [2010/07/31 00:58:55] <alcy> maybe add a feature request for this ? | ||
| [2010/07/31 01:02:35] <alcy> oh http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/2406 | ||
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| [2010/07/31 01:31:47] <madduck> alcy: -t is not a solution, ticket updated | ||
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| [2010/07/31 01:34:39] <alcy> madduck: cool, sounds better. ;) not sure of how puppet will ensure pinning of each dependency/package, with not much overhead ? | ||
| [2010/07/31 01:35:02] <madduck> who cares about overhead? ;) | ||
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| [2010/07/31 02:05:30] <takamichi> What the easiest way to force a client to reload its catalogue from the master? | ||
| [2010/07/31 02:06:33] <takamichi> color me stupid, but I dont see anyway to do it on docs.puppetlabs.com | ||
| [2010/07/31 02:06:41] <takamichi> Any references much appreciated | ||
| [2010/07/31 02:07:06] <madduck> puppetqd | ||
| [2010/07/31 02:09:02] <Volcane> takamichi: puppetrun | ||
| [2010/07/31 02:10:01] <takamichi> executed on the client? | ||
| [2010/07/31 02:13:18] <madduck> takamichi: on the client: puppetd -ot | ||
| [2010/07/31 02:13:48] <Volcane> sorry maybe i missunderstood, do you want to from the master make a client run | ||
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| [2010/07/31 02:13:54] <Volcane> or do you just want to log into a host and run it? | ||
| [2010/07/31 02:15:24] <takamichi> I'm evaluating puppet and have created some sample classes that I want to test without waiting 30 mins for the client to load them | ||
| [2010/07/31 02:15:34] <Volcane> ah | ||
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| [2010/07/31 02:15:37] <Volcane> puppetd --test | ||
| [2010/07/31 02:15:42] <Volcane> will run on a client and show what its doing | ||
| [2010/07/31 02:15:50] <takamichi> ok great! thank you | ||
| [2010/07/31 02:15:53] <madduck> oh, no -o necessary, eh? | ||
| [2010/07/31 02:15:59] <madduck> --test is -ov --no-daemonize? | ||
| [2010/07/31 02:16:24] <Volcane> and --verbose maybe, but yah, run once and exits | ||
| [2010/07/31 02:16:42] <madduck> -ov includes --verbose ;_) | ||
| [2010/07/31 02:16:53] <Volcane> true :) | ||
| [2010/07/31 02:17:13] <takamichi> thanks guys, this has been a great help | ||
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| [2010/07/31 04:44:31] <madduck> is there a way in which I can override the Package type with a define using the Package type (but also doing something else) if the OS is debian|ubuntu? | ||
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| [2010/07/31 04:55:32] <ickymettle> madduck: what are you trying to achieve there? | ||
| [2010/07/31 04:56:01] <madduck> ickymettle: maintaining a file in /etc/apt/preferences.d for each package installed, if ensure is set to anything other than present or latest | ||
| [2010/07/31 04:56:10] <madduck> i.e. if it's set to a version number or a release name | ||
| [2010/07/31 04:56:43] <ickymettle> ah | ||
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| [2010/07/31 04:57:48] <ickymettle> is this just to pin a version? | ||
| [2010/07/31 04:58:30] <madduck> yes | ||
| [2010/07/31 04:58:34] <madduck> ":just" | ||
| [2010/07/31 04:58:54] <ickymettle> cos you're kinda getting that for free by specifying the version in puppet | ||
| [2010/07/31 04:59:16] <madduck> no, i am not | ||
| [2010/07/31 04:59:31] <madduck> first, I can only specify versions, not release names | ||
| [2010/07/31 04:59:32] <ickymettle> puppet will ensure you're running "version" | ||
| [2010/07/31 04:59:55] <madduck> and second, if I then run apt-get upgrade, it might install a different package, forcing puppet then to downgrade | ||
| [2010/07/31 05:00:16] <madduck> if puppet provides the functionality to install a specific version, I expect it to integrate with the package manager properly | ||
| [2010/07/31 05:00:20] <ickymettle> yeah the upgrade one is a pain | ||
| [2010/07/31 05:00:37] <madduck> especially since it's trivial nowadays with /etc/apt/preferences.d | ||
| [2010/07/31 05:09:54] <davea1> should dashboard classes be auto-populated from updates from servers? | ||
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| [2010/07/31 08:02:49] <jamesturnbull> madduck: I did not - at this stage our thinking is that our Redmine upgrade to v1.0 has broken stuff - I've added a TODO to have a look in more detail | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:03:08] <madduck> jamesturnbull: okay, ping me again if the time is ripe | ||
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| [2010/07/31 08:07:19] <davea1> just upgraded from 2.5 to 2.6 - took about 4 hours | ||
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| [2010/07/31 08:16:27] <madduck> that's about 3.9 too much. | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:16:34] <madduck> davea1: what were the major problems? | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:16:51] <davea1> Hello madduck | ||
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| [2010/07/31 08:17:36] * davea1 is thinking | ||
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| [2010/07/31 08:18:22] <davea1> the reason I did the upgrade was because I wanted to use dashboard | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:18:48] <davea1> that was challenging to get running :/ | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:19:19] <davea1> anyhow, part of the time was getting a new version of puppet in rpm foprm | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:19:21] <davea1> form | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:19:33] <davea1> and updating my cobbler environment | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:19:52] <davea1> so all the time wasnt all puppet time :) | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:20:12] <tmz> davea1: What OS? | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:20:21] <davea1> centos 5 x86_64 | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:20:36] <tmz> davea1: http://tmz.fedorapeople.org/repo/puppet/epel/ :) | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:20:51] <davea1> yeah - got it after some digging :) | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:21:02] <tmz> Ahh, good deal. Generally the latest bits are there before EPEL. | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:21:26] <tmz> I'm always happy to learn of packing errors in there too, to save EPEL folks from suffering with them. | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:21:27] <davea1> tmz I kept looking at epel and epel-testing without success | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:21:39] <davea1> so anyhow | ||
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| [2010/07/31 08:21:53] <davea1> dashboard wanted an environment to run with | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:22:10] <davea1> at least it would not run without the -e param | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:22:16] <tmz> Yeah, for 2.6.x it needs some time to firm up and get tested before we commit to it in EPEL. | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:22:55] <davea1> so I then modified my puppetmaster to use environments, which was partially implemented in my case | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:23:08] <davea1> then some clients wouldnt update | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:23:18] <davea1> because I didnt have the env set for them | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:23:44] <davea1> then dashboard was crashing when more than one client would post at a time | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:24:02] <davea1> I had some strangeness with exported resources | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:24:10] <davea1> which didnt appear with 2.5 | ||
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| [2010/07/31 08:24:59] <davea1> and my puppetmaster/puppet kept overwriting the changes that I was testing | ||
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| [2010/07/31 08:25:30] <davea1> so I had to bounce back and forth between my running config and my puppet module files | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:26:26] <davea1> so as for the upgrade- 4 hours for everything- 1 hour for puppet- sorry if I mislead you about the time ;) | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:26:45] <davea1> the strangest problem was why my clients were not updating | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:27:17] <davea1> that was because I had environments configured in my puppetmaster but not in my node defs | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:27:43] <davea1> madduck, I hope that helps someone | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:28:21] <davea1> and now dashboard wont run with passenger - Issue #4425 | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:28:22] <gepetto> davea1: #4425 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/4425 "Puppet Dashboard - Bug #4425: ActionView::TemplateError (report was supposed to be a Puppet::Transaction::Report, but was a String) - Puppet Labs" | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:28:53] <madduck> thanks for the feedback | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:29:05] <davea1> madduck, thanks for the software! | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:29:15] <madduck> oh, i didn't write it and I don't even really contribute to it | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:29:20] <davea1> madduck, lol | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:29:28] <madduck> davea1: hug jamesturnbull and lak instead. ;) | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:29:49] <davea1> well most of my problems were because of being a novice with puppet - about 4 months now | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:30:03] * davea1 hugs jamesturnbull ,lak | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:30:46] <davea1> madduck, oh there was one bug- one sec | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:32:25] <davea1> madduck, puppet/application/agent.rb would try to process non-puppet files | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:33:18] <davea1> madduck, http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-dev/browse_thread/thread/d817d82e29eca06c?pli=1 | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:33:37] <davea1> madduck, so I had to modify my version | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:33:45] <davea1> to add the lines | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:35:02] <davea1> madduck, that would be the first one mentioned with Nick Lewis | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:37:31] <madduck> any idea how I could wrap text, respecting word boundaries, with templates? | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:37:42] <madduck> and ideally with indenting support too? | ||
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| [2010/07/31 08:41:55] <jamesturnbull> madduck: fixed - you should see a new ticket | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:43:17] <madduck> ta! | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:47:30] <madduck> <%= message.gsub(/(.{1,78})( +|$\n?)|(.{1,78})/, "\\1\\3\n") %> | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:47:36] <madduck> (http://blog.macromates.com/2006/wrapping-text-with-regular-expressions/) | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:59:32] <jamesturnbull> madduck: #4426 - I am missing some context I think - who is Eric? And what script? | ||
| [2010/07/31 08:59:32] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: madduck: #4426 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/4426 "Puppet - Bug #4426: ext/regexp_nodes treats "environment" as parameter - Puppet Labs" | ||
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| [2010/07/31 09:00:11] <madduck> jamesturnbull: /ext/regexp_nodes or so. | ||
| [2010/07/31 09:00:18] <madduck> jamesturnbull: eric0 is eric | ||
| [2010/07/31 09:00:28] <madduck> he wanted a ticket so he can fix stuff and reference | ||
| [2010/07/31 09:00:36] <jamesturnbull> madduck: ah okay | ||
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| [2010/07/31 09:51:53] <madduck> so does multi-source not work with remote files, or with directories? | ||
| [2010/07/31 09:52:04] <madduck> http://slexy.org/view/s20yt0fzBX gives err: //logcheck::rules/Logcheck::Rules::Logcheck_rule_dir[violations.d]/File[/etc/logcheck/violations.d]: Failed to retrieve current state of resource: Could not retrieve information from source(s) puppet:///logcheck/violations.d, puppet:///modules/logcheck/violations.d at /etc/puppet/modules/production/logcheck/manifests/init.pp:25 | ||
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| [2010/07/31 09:52:24] <madduck> puppet:///modules/logcheck/violations.d at least is an empty directory | ||
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| [2010/07/31 09:53:13] <madduck> aha, but one which puppetmaster cannot read | ||
| [2010/07/31 09:53:14] * madduck hides | ||
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| [2010/07/31 10:35:26] <madduck> why oh why did someone out there decide to make puppetd and puppetmasterd, two fundamentally different programs, read the same config file? | ||
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| [2010/07/31 10:36:05] <madduck> it means that if I control puppet::client and puppet::server with puppet itself, ordering matters, since the first class gets to pick the template | ||
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| [2010/07/31 10:56:01] * madduck sad | ||
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| [2010/07/31 10:58:30] <jamesturnbull> madduck: I presume you'll tell eric about the ticket | ||
| [2010/07/31 10:59:44] <madduck> can i find out if a given class has been loaded and act accordingly? | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:00:09] <jamesturnbull> madduck: defined function | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:00:17] <madduck> jamesturnbull: i like how #4426 interprets my signature. ;) | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:00:17] <gepetto> madduck: jamesturnbull: #4426 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/4426 "Puppet - Bug #4426: ext/regexp_nodes treats "environment" as parameter - Puppet Labs" | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:00:22] <madduck> miss piggy++ | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:00:28] <madduck> jamesturnbull: okay, will look | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:00:29] <jamesturnbull> madduck: well it parses the email | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:00:33] <madduck> eric0: #4426 | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:00:33] <gepetto> madduck: eric0: #4426 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/4426 "Puppet - Bug #4426: ext/regexp_nodes treats "environment" as parameter - Puppet Labs" | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:00:48] * jamesturnbull is off before madduck complains about Puppet more... :) | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:01:52] <madduck> i am *trying* | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:02:04] <jamesturnbull> madduck: VERY TRYING :) | ||
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| [2010/07/31 11:04:09] <madduck> jamesturnbull: i cannot find a function to enumerate or check for classes. :( | ||
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| [2010/07/31 11:13:11] <madduck> oooooh! | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:13:15] <madduck> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/stable/function.html#defined | ||
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| [2010/07/31 11:44:38] <duritong> ohadlevy: *rotfl* PupperOS ymmd! | ||
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| [2010/07/31 11:48:22] <madduck> fileserver.conf — is that deprecated in favour of namespaceauth.conf? | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:49:01] <madduck> why would I otherwise define an ACL for fileserver in namespaceauth.conf and ACLs for each resource in fileserver.conf? | ||
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| [2010/07/31 11:55:19] <duritong> madduck: fileserver is imho in general deprecated in favour of modules, but I'm not sure if you can define fileserver-paths in namespaceauth.conf | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:56:01] <madduck> duritong: i hope not that it's deprecated. I mean, I think there's a huge benefit in being able to have module-independent fileserving | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:56:23] <duritong> madduck: well you can do that as well with site-specific modules | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:56:37] <madduck> e.g. my motd class tries to install [puppet:///motd,puppet:///modules/motd/default] to give the admin a chance to overwrite locally | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:56:58] <madduck> duritong: how is a site-specific module called? how do I know what yours will be called when I write my generic class? | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:57:18] <duritong> that would then be: [puppet:///modules/site-module/default,puppet:///modules/motd/default] | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:57:35] <madduck> is site-module a defined default? | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:57:47] <madduck> or will some people call it local\? | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:58:05] <duritong> see modules on git.puppet.immerda.ch or the oes at https://labs.riseup.net/code/projects/sharedpuppetmodules | ||
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| [2010/07/31 11:59:25] <madduck> duritong: so the answer is no, right? | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:59:26] <duritong> madduck: it's a defined default amongst a certain amout of people, but not something officially | ||
| [2010/07/31 11:59:39] <madduck> so why get rid of fileserver?? | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:00:24] <duritong> you don't need to, but modules seem to be preferred | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:00:33] * duritong tel | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:00:39] <madduck> modules make a lot of sense *except* for site-local stuff | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:02:24] <duritong> madduck: http://spug.ch/assets/2010-02-18/05-apatmo.pdf | ||
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| [2010/07/31 12:04:17] <madduck> duritong: you mean puzzle.ch, users of mysql, have it figured out? | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:04:31] * madduck knows the puzzle.ch guys quite well... | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:04:56] <duritong> madduck: no there are also other users aka hacim/micah | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:05:03] <madduck> there is just no convincing argument why i should use a site-local module to satisfy the API of a public module. | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:06:58] <duritong> code organization, usage of the autolader? | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:07:21] <madduck> duritong: neither of which I need | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:07:44] <duritong> well, as I said you don't need to get rid off it | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:07:48] <madduck> duritong: assume there's a public motd module and the only API it has is that the admin can provide a file 'motd' to override it? | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:08:05] <duritong> yep | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:08:11] <madduck> why would I ever want to request the public API to be satisfied by modules/site-local/motd rather than /motd | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:08:15] <madduck> ? | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:09:06] <duritong> no modules/site-motd/files/ | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:09:20] <madduck> why? | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:09:28] <madduck> what's the benefit? | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:09:31] <duritong> because site-motd is an own module | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:09:35] <madduck> it's a lot more work and inodes and all | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:09:45] <madduck> why does it need to be its own module? | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:10:21] <duritong> if we care about inodes we can also put everything into one file | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:10:36] <madduck> sure, but why the extra indirection? | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:11:05] <duritong> because we can use the existing modules behavior | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:11:05] <madduck> all i want to have is *one* *canonical* location to check for a file | ||
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| [2010/07/31 12:11:19] <madduck> i don't need any modules behaviour. i just want to serve a single file | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:11:23] <madduck> (optionally) | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:11:23] <duritong> but you could also put all into a module called site-local and use that as a fileserver | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:11:50] <madduck> but then my public module must in its API make the assumption that every user puts stuff into modules/site-local/files | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:11:58] <madduck> or modules/site-motd/files for motd | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:12:00] <duritong> yep | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:12:16] <madduck> i don't see the benefit over using / | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:12:21] <madduck> i.e. fileserver | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:12:35] <madduck> *unless* "site-local" were the standard. | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:12:43] <madduck> or whatever | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:12:49] <madduck> unless there was a stnadard | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:12:51] <duritong> well there is currently anyway no std. | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:12:59] <madduck> there is the fileserver… | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:14:35] <duritong> if you don't have any site-specific classes, then this is probably sufficient, but we had the experience that the fileserver gets to clumsy | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:15:07] <madduck> fair enough | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:16:34] <madduck> i guess i can make it check [puppet:///motd, puppet:///modules/site-motd/motd, puppet:///modules/site-local/motd, puppet:///modules/motd/default] | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:16:40] <madduck> and many more | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:16:41] <madduck> \o/ | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:17:10] <madduck> ffs! why does namespaceauth have to be shared between client and server too? | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:17:16] <duritong> yeah and many other "standards" :P | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:17:33] <duritong> this I don't know and I don't think it have to | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:17:34] <madduck> why in the world did lak not properly separate client and server? | ||
| [2010/07/31 12:17:44] * madduck wants /etc/puppetmaster | ||
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| [2010/07/31 12:27:44] <madduck> wtf is auth.conf? | ||
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| [2010/07/31 13:02:02] <|Mike|> rtfm | ||
| [2010/07/31 13:02:10] <madduck> which fm? | ||
| [2010/07/31 13:02:20] <|Mike|> hardrock.fm ? :) | ||
| [2010/07/31 13:17:07] <madduck> i am listening to iron maiden, does that count? | ||
| [2010/07/31 13:18:38] <madduck> $_puppet_template_file = "puppetmaster.conf" | ||
| [2010/07/31 13:18:39] <madduck> include puppet::client | ||
| [2010/07/31 13:18:57] <madduck> why on earth would $_puppet_template_file be empty when puppet::client is evaluated? | ||
| [2010/07/31 13:19:21] <madduck> it is *not* evaluated from anywhere else (although i don't know how to check that for sure) | ||
| [2010/07/31 13:19:37] <madduck> oh yeah | ||
| [2010/07/31 13:19:38] <madduck> if defined(Class["puppet::client"]) { | ||
| [2010/07/31 13:19:39] <madduck> fail("You must not include the puppet::client class before puppet::server.") | ||
| [2010/07/31 13:19:41] <madduck> } | ||
| [2010/07/31 13:19:42] <madduck> is right before | ||
| [2010/07/31 13:19:46] <madduck> so it cannot have happejned | ||
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| [2010/07/31 13:44:13] <Cyis> Okay may seem like a silly question... but if I have a file { } block with multiple files... how can I set one so that it's only to be included base on the $operatingsystem fact | ||
| [2010/07/31 13:44:26] <madduck> make it a separate block | ||
| [2010/07/31 13:44:30] <madduck> nested in an if | ||
| [2010/07/31 13:44:42] <madduck> or better, make ensure depend on the operatingsystem fact | ||
| [2010/07/31 13:45:46] <Cyis> that makes sense... I thought there might be a way to do it more elegantly than multiple blocks... the ensure depend sounds like what I was thinking | ||
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| [2010/07/31 13:51:34] <zeeby> Hey guys, I'm trying to move puppet between two boxes, and updating in the mean time | ||
| [2010/07/31 13:51:42] <zeeby> at the start of puppetmasterd's I'm getting this now: | ||
| [2010/07/31 13:51:44] <zeeby> Could not create resources for managing Puppet's files and directories in sections [:main, :puppetmasterd, :ssl]: Could not find a default provider for file | ||
| [2010/07/31 13:51:49] <zeeby> Any clue? | ||
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| [2010/07/31 13:54:49] <Cyis> thanks madduck... that did the trick... | ||
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| [2010/07/31 14:30:45] <Cyis> hmm... having some issues with trying to test out puppet dashboard | ||
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| [2010/07/31 16:57:40] <|Mike|> madduck: yeah, the rock! | ||
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| [2010/07/31 20:16:20] <skeeziks> I can't find a reference for how to use `require' directly inside a class definition, as opposed to within a resource. Can you guys help me out? | ||
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| [2010/07/31 22:52:32] <TomHome> hey guys | ||
| [2010/07/31 22:53:11] <TomHome> I'm in the process of migrating from cfengine2 to puppet... and I'd like to know how would you manage access on servers for a group or users with puppet ? | ||
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| [2010/07/31 22:57:13] <devdas> Access via? | ||
| [2010/07/31 22:57:21] <devdas> Or account management? | ||
| [2010/07/31 22:58:04] <TomHome> ssh access) | ||
| [2010/07/31 22:59:07] * devdas likes keys | ||
| [2010/07/31 22:59:11] <devdas> No key, no access | ||
| [2010/07/31 22:59:19] <TomHome> i.e: how would do to let access to user ben and group lambda to server X,Y,Z | ||
| [2010/07/31 22:59:45] <devdas> See the exported resources stuff | ||
| [2010/07/31 22:59:50] <TomHome> ? | ||
| [2010/07/31 22:59:55] <devdas> It's a slightly complex topic | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:03:02] <TomHome> ok | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:03:56] <TomHome> so far what we used to do is to create a file X locally on the server and if this file exists then cfengine will do something because this file activites a class | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:04:03] <TomHome> how would you do that with puppet ? | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:04:15] <devdas> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/virtual_resources.html | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:04:41] <devdas> You can do that with Puppet via exec {} | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:05:07] <devdas> The virtual stuff is cleaner | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:05:13] <devdas> More declarative | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:09:17] <TomHome> ok that helps | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:09:31] <TomHome> now I have another question (derivated from the 1st one) | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:09:38] <TomHome> let | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:09:39] <TomHome> let | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:10:14] <TomHome> let's imagine that you want to install a class webserver on a server | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:10:23] <TomHome> how should I do ? | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:10:33] <TomHome> add for this server the class in the manifest ? | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:10:40] <devdas> node server { include webserver } | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:10:42] <devdas> Yes | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:10:51] <TomHome> or is it a way to trigger an installation from the server itself somehow ? | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:11:24] <TomHome> like if I create a file in /var/puppet/webserver puppet will then install the class webserver and do the work | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:11:30] <TomHome> (does it make sense ?) | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:11:45] <TomHome> so far I have this fealing that you can manage stuff only from the puppetmaster | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:11:53] <TomHome> correct ? | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:12:05] <devdas> The only thing you need to put on the node is the puppet client and facter | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:12:14] <devdas> Everything else is on the Puppetmaster | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:12:20] <TomHome> ok | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:12:40] <TomHome> that confirms my thought | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:13:20] <TomHome> I understood that a client authenticates to the puppetmaster with a ssl key | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:13:36] <TomHome> so it there a clean way to remove a server when you decommission it ? | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:13:50] <TomHome> (I haven't google that one so it might be obvious) | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:22:08] <joschi> TomHome: `puppetca --revoke ...` | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:22:25] <joschi> TomHome: or `puppetca --clean ...`, but revoke is "more correct" | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:24:18] <TomHome> ok | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:24:25] <TomHome> I found clean in a bug report :) | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:24:42] <TomHome> thanks guys for your help | ||
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| [2010/07/31 23:40:15] <madduck> check out http://slexy.org/view/s20SQ61NdA if you include class test::server, what would you expect that notify to print? | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:53:34] * madduck created #4429 | ||
| [2010/07/31 23:53:34] <gepetto> madduck: #4429 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/4429 "Puppet - Bug #4429: variable confusion when a class includes its sibling - Puppet Labs" |
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