Sunday, 2010-08-01

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[2010/08/01 00:00:38] <madduck> oh the joys of inventing new languages
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[2010/08/01 00:52:42] <robinbowes> madduck: Affected version:0.24.6 ???
[2010/08/01 00:53:30] <madduck> robinbowes: I am still running 0.24.6 in places
[2010/08/01 00:53:40] <madduck> and this was on 0.24.6
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[2010/08/01 00:53:59] <robinbowes> I suspect you may need to upgrade
[2010/08/01 00:54:10] <madduck> which issue is this?
[2010/08/01 00:54:33] <robinbowes> #4429
[2010/08/01 00:54:34] <gepetto> robinbowes: #4429 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/4429 "Puppet - Bug #4429: variable confusion when a class includes its sibling - Puppet Labs"
[2010/08/01 00:55:05] <madduck> robinbowes: could well be that this is fixed in a later release. Did you try to reproduce with 0.25 or 2.6?
[2010/08/01 00:55:33] <robinbowes> No, I was just glancing through my open channels and noticed your report
[2010/08/01 00:55:49] <robinbowes> And saw the version you were reporting against
[2010/08/01 00:55:50] <madduck> well, i am not ready to upgrade yet
[2010/08/01 00:56:25] <robinbowes> I'm not connected to puppetlabs, but I suspect their response will be "please retest against a more current version"
[2010/08/01 00:56:29] <madduck> oh, and I am talking about 0.25.4 anyway
[2010/08/01 00:56:30] <madduck> DOH!
[2010/08/01 00:57:00] <robinbowes> Ah, well that's more acceptable :)
[2010/08/01 00:58:26] <madduck> there, fixed
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[2010/08/01 03:13:36] <madduck> with a service type, there is no "floating" ensure state, like "don't do anything"
[2010/08/01 03:13:39] <madduck> ?
[2010/08/01 03:15:24] <madduck> hm, apparently just leave off the ensure
[2010/08/01 03:15:49] <madduck> which is not quite what I want because I want to set it to running if a variable is true, and not set it at all if the variable is false
[2010/08/01 03:15:59] <madduck> meaning i must create an if and two service resources. :(
[2010/08/01 03:16:30] <madduck> oh, I can set it to undef!
[2010/08/01 03:16:37] <madduck> \o/
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[2010/08/01 07:30:00] <Guest68545> hi
[2010/08/01 07:30:14] <Guest68545> hi
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[2010/08/01 07:33:15] <Guest68545> helo
[2010/08/01 07:33:56] <Volcane> saying hi and hello over and over isnt going to help you achieve your goal
[2010/08/01 07:38:53] <ashp_> what if his goal is to say hi to each and every one of us? :D
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[2010/08/01 07:41:59] <Guest68545> hi
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[2010/08/01 07:50:11] <Guest68545> gh
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[2010/08/01 09:43:18] <cyrus_mc> I am trying to implement http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Using_Multiple_Environments
[2010/08/01 09:43:47] <cyrus_mc> but it doesn't work. There is a bug out there from 4 months ago that states the same thing. However it is 4 months old and there has been no update to it since the original poster
[2010/08/01 09:54:44] <jamesturnbull> cyrus_mc: which bug?
[2010/08/01 09:54:53] <jamesturnbull> cyrus_mc: what version?
[2010/08/01 09:55:05] <jamesturnbull> cyrus_mc: what does "but it doesn't work" mean?
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[2010/08/01 10:00:49] <cyrus_mc> jamesturnbull: I am using 0.25.5
[2010/08/01 10:01:05] <cyrus_mc> jamesturnbull: and by it doesn't work means if I set different fileservercnf for different environments.
[2010/08/01 10:01:28] <cyrus_mc> when the client runs specifying the --environment, it just defaults to what the global one is
[2010/08/01 10:02:05] <cyrus_mc> http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/3550
[2010/08/01 10:02:07] <cyrus_mc> that is the bug
[2010/08/01 10:03:11] <cyrus_mc> hmm..funny, it shows you as the last one who updated the bug ticket
[2010/08/01 10:03:16] <cyrus_mc> changed the status, 4 months ago
[2010/08/01 10:03:53] <jamesturnbull> it's a duplicate of #3548
[2010/08/01 10:03:54] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: #3548 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/3548 "Puppet - Bug #3548: multiple fileserver configs don't work - Puppet Labs"
[2010/08/01 10:05:16] <cyrus_mc> jamesturnbull: ya, just clicked the link to the duplicate..again same thing...no update except from you 4 months ago
[2010/08/01 10:05:27] <jamesturnbull> cyrus_mc: about 99% of the tickets have me setting the status - I do most of the triage
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[2010/08/01 10:05:33] <cyrus_mc> ah
[2010/08/01 10:05:47] <cyrus_mc> anyways..that is the issue I have...it appears the multiple environments does not work
[2010/08/01 10:06:07] <Volcane> cyrus_mc: do you not use modules?
[2010/08/01 10:06:34] <cyrus_mc> Volcane: not sure what you mean? What I need to do is have multiple fileserver configs so I can roll out files in dev, tqa and prod
[2010/08/01 10:06:43] <cyrus_mc> not sure how modules would help here
[2010/08/01 10:06:52] <Volcane> modules let you serve files from inside the module, and they work with environments
[2010/08/01 10:07:26] <cyrus_mc> hmm..not sure I understand...can you give an example
[2010/08/01 10:07:49] <Volcane> when you say source => "puppet:///modules/modulename/filename"
[2010/08/01 10:07:50] <cyrus_mc> for instance..I want to roll out a new /etc/nsswitch.conf...so I just serve that up using a simple file resource
[2010/08/01 10:08:12] <Volcane> it will take 'modulename/filename' from a per environment module directory
[2010/08/01 10:08:33] <Volcane> or if all you want is to serve up nsswitch.conf say you can just do:
[2010/08/01 10:08:53] <Volcane> source => ["puppet:///files/nsswitch.conf.${environment}", "puppet:///files/nsswitch.conf"]
[2010/08/01 10:09:08] <Volcane> and have nsswitch.conf.prodution for example
[2010/08/01 10:09:21] <Volcane> or if thats more your way files/${environment}/nsswitch.conf
[2010/08/01 10:09:27] <cyrus_mc> Volcane: where does the environment variable come from?
[2010/08/01 10:09:42] <Volcane> set automatically to whatever environment the client has
[2010/08/01 10:09:57] <cyrus_mc> so it woudl be set to the value of puppetd --environment=production ...
[2010/08/01 10:10:02] <Volcane> yes
[2010/08/01 10:10:10] <cyrus_mc> ok...thanks..that would work perfect..
[2010/08/01 10:10:16] <cyrus_mc> thanks
[2010/08/01 10:10:18] <jamesturnbull> cyrus_mc: it looks like fileserverconfig doesn't work - but everything else will - and the model Volcane suggests will work for the rest
[2010/08/01 10:11:21] <cyrus_mc> thanks for the help guys
[2010/08/01 10:11:23] <cyrus_mc> much appreciated
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[2010/08/01 10:51:57] <brothers> I am running 25.5 puppet standalone. Can I use pluginsync or something without going to the puppetmaster?
[2010/08/01 10:52:30] <agaffney> where would it sync them from?
[2010/08/01 10:53:14] <brothers> From facts in modules to the $vardir/lib/facter directory, where other tools can find them
[2010/08/01 10:54:48] <brothers> Or maybe facter should find the facts in modules, but I don't have it configured to?
[2010/08/01 10:54:50] <Volcane> fact sync doesnt work but types and provider do
[2010/08/01 10:55:22] <Volcane> if u put all the facts in one dir you can configure it with factpath= to find them thre
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[2010/08/01 11:12:51] <brothers> Volcane: configure which with factpath?
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[2010/08/01 11:32:02] <brothers> Setting --factpath for puppet gets facts to load from the given directory, but still not sync
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[2010/08/01 12:25:21] <Volcane> brothers: yeah it wont sync
[2010/08/01 12:25:30] <Volcane> brothers: there's a bug open against that
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[2010/08/01 13:37:23] <Whoop> Does anyone know if puppet supports Arch Linux? e.g. their package management system, pacman
[2010/08/01 13:37:37] <Whoop> I can't see reference to it on the type reference :(
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[2010/08/01 13:41:52] <agaffney> I've never seen mention of it, but you could write support for it
[2010/08/01 13:41:58] <agaffney> submit it upstream
[2010/08/01 13:43:31] <jamesturnbull> Whoop: there is a pacman provider but its not in core
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[2010/08/01 13:44:00] <jamesturnbull> Whoop: #1853
[2010/08/01 13:44:01] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: Whoop: #1853 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/1853 "Puppet - Feature #1853: pacman package provider - Puppet Labs"
[2010/08/01 13:44:01] <Whoop> Know of a reason for it to not be in core?
[2010/08/01 13:44:06] <Whoop> Awesome, thanks
[2010/08/01 13:44:23] <jamesturnbull> Whoop: no tests, code insufficient
[2010/08/01 13:44:28] <Whoop> fair do
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[2010/08/01 13:49:11] <jamesturnbull> Whoop: you could also ask miah if she's made any progress on the tests
[2010/08/01 13:49:18] <jamesturnbull> gepetto: seen miah
[2010/08/01 13:49:18] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: miah was last seen 1 month, 3 days, 19 hours, 5 minutes and 31 seconds ago, leaving #puppet
[2010/08/01 13:49:23] <Whoop> I'll investigate, thanks
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[2010/08/01 16:36:00] <RedPepper> hi i have a problem with a double definition can i debug where it has been previously defined ?
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[2010/08/01 16:42:18] <Volcane> RedPepper: it'll help if you give some useful information
[2010/08/01 16:42:33] <RedPepper> okay will try my best
[2010/08/01 16:42:41] <Volcane> error message
[2010/08/01 16:42:49] <RedPepper> err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: Duplicate definition: Authorized-keys[home] is already defined in file /etc/puppet/manifests/classes/authkeys.pp at line 3; cannot redefine at /etc/puppet/manifests/classes/authkeys.pp:4
[2010/08/01 16:43:18] <Volcane> put the code on pastie.org
[2010/08/01 16:43:27] <RedPepper> one moment ;)
[2010/08/01 16:43:48] <RedPepper> http://privatepaste.com/6812ea9fbb
[2010/08/01 16:43:51] <RedPepper> authkeys.pp
[2010/08/01 16:44:20] <Volcane> and where is authorized-keys defined?
[2010/08/01 16:44:24] <Volcane> show it too
[2010/08/01 16:44:29] <RedPepper> one moment
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[2010/08/01 16:45:38] <RedPepper> http://privatepaste.com/ce47ea08f3
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[2010/08/01 16:47:31] <bdha> oof. That manifest needs some require=> love.
[2010/08/01 16:47:35] <RedPepper> it has worked with 0.25 some months ago but as i updated to the new 2.6 i saw it has stopped working
[2010/08/01 16:47:49] <RedPepper> bdha i am open for suggestions ;)
[2010/08/01 16:48:05] <bdha> I just glanced at it. Haven't installed 2.6 yet myself.
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[2010/08/01 16:48:29] <bdha> The conditionals are unnecessary, though, if you use dependencies (e.g., require).
[2010/08/01 16:50:04] <RedPepper> can u explain it at an example snippet ?
[2010/08/01 16:50:13] <RedPepper> i didn't get the point now
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[2010/08/01 16:56:50] <RedPepper> i had an i idea
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[2010/08/01 16:58:03] <RedPepper> i can use a authorized_keys.erb to simulate a for-loop
[2010/08/01 16:58:40] <RedPepper> should work better than the actual version
[2010/08/01 17:05:30] <bdha> RedPepper: http://pastie.org/private/pwtuajmurozdczgbgwhk2w
[2010/08/01 17:05:44] <bdha> That populates a user's environment on any system they have a valid shell on.
[2010/08/01 17:06:03] <bdha> We use LDAP so I use a fact that calls getpwent to return valid system users.
[2010/08/01 17:06:20] <bdha> The root user's environment is defined manually. Note the require calls.
[2010/08/01 17:06:32] <bdha> Also, there is an ssh authorized_keys provider built into Puppet.
[2010/08/01 17:06:51] <bdha> http://pastie.org/private/osgo2xdudsane3imgubbw
[2010/08/01 17:07:02] <RedPepper> firstly it was testing my abilities in puppet and learning by doing
[2010/08/01 17:07:28] <bdha> Sure.
[2010/08/01 17:07:41] <bdha> Just telling you about other stuff, not talking smack.
[2010/08/01 17:07:45] <RedPepper> yeah
[2010/08/01 17:07:51] <RedPepper> i appreciate this ;)
[2010/08/01 17:08:02] <RedPepper> more knowlege i can suck in *g*
[2010/08/01 17:08:30] <RedPepper> thanks for suggestions and these examples
[2010/08/01 17:08:31] <RedPepper> ;)
[2010/08/01 17:09:12] <bdha> np
[2010/08/01 17:09:30] <bdha> Been thinking about porting my Puppet code into an "infrastructure in a box" demo.
[2010/08/01 17:09:47] <bdha> Using OpenSolaris + Crossbrow to build a virtual network with common services in zones.
[2010/08/01 17:10:00] <bdha> Makes me refactor my code into 2.6, if nothing else.
[2010/08/01 17:10:10] <bdha> Also makes it easy to deploy stuff to new clients. :)
[2010/08/01 17:10:29] <RedPepper> yea
[2010/08/01 17:10:31] <lisa> can a service subscribe to a nonexistent file?
[2010/08/01 17:10:54] <bdha> To what purpose? A killfille?
[2010/08/01 17:10:59] <bdha> er, killfile.
[2010/08/01 17:11:04] <bdha> (I don't know)
[2010/08/01 17:11:22] <bdha> wup. Time to feed the preggo and the nub. Dinner. &
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[2010/08/01 18:07:38] <RedPepper> bdha,
[2010/08/01 18:07:46] <RedPepper> are you back / here ?
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