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| [2010/08/06 01:06:54] <madduck> are there any alternatives to storeconfigs? I really don't want rails and a full RDBMS just for that. | ||
| [2010/08/06 01:07:28] <madduck> i mean, RDMBS ok, but why wouldn't the clients just simply connect directly? Why does it have to happen via puppetd? | ||
| [2010/08/06 01:07:32] <madduck> puppetmasterd I mean | ||
| [2010/08/06 01:07:35] <madduck> what's the benefit? | ||
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| [2010/08/06 01:17:11] <zipkid> madduck: you're confusing... :-) | ||
| [2010/08/06 01:17:58] <zipkid> anyway, it makes sense to me that the master handles all storing and usage of the stored configs.... | ||
| [2010/08/06 01:19:46] <madduck> if it weren't such a performance hog | ||
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| [2010/08/06 02:13:06] <I_Be_Trollin> hey guys i'll be your puppet for $100 | ||
| [2010/08/06 02:13:12] <I_Be_Trollin> wantomsefusthis? | ||
| [2010/08/06 02:13:20] <I_Be_Trollin> i'm drunk so you can take advantage of me hardcore | ||
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| [2010/08/06 02:13:33] <I_Be_Trollin> i'll take it up the ass anytime for a nice big boy | ||
| [2010/08/06 02:13:39] <I_Be_Trollin> hi FoXMaN | ||
| [2010/08/06 02:13:47] <I_Be_Trollin> wanna givme a nice hard cock up my pussy? | ||
| [2010/08/06 02:14:10] @ Mode +o Volcane by ChanServ | ||
| [2010/08/06 02:14:15] <I_Be_Trollin> heres the kick | ||
| [2010/08/06 02:14:16] <I_Be_Trollin> plz do | ||
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| [2010/08/06 04:23:17] <GaViT> I am looking for a way to install machines for clients, but I am trying to organize the configurations. The goal is to manage "kickstarts" | ||
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| [2010/08/06 04:25:25] <ohookins> GaViT: what aspect of kickstarts do you want to manage? | ||
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| [2010/08/06 04:27:54] <GaViT> ohookins, well mostly the configs of the differnt apps(firewall/mysql/apache/php etc) | ||
| [2010/08/06 04:28:39] <ohookins> all we do during kickstart is prepare the machine well enough for puppet to take over | ||
| [2010/08/06 04:29:07] <ohookins> so we don't tend to install many packages during kickstart, then just bootstrap puppet and run it a few times | ||
| [2010/08/06 04:29:20] <ohookins> so it's not really a kickstart issue, it's a general puppet issue | ||
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| [2010/08/06 04:38:46] <zipkid> ohookins: same here... | ||
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| [2010/08/06 04:42:42] <GaViT> ohookins, zipkid is it an issue if I "disconnect" the clients from the puppet server since the machines go to clients afterwards (and most likely wont return for a LOOONG time) | ||
| [2010/08/06 04:43:12] <zipkid> GaViT: well... even then... | ||
| [2010/08/06 04:43:21] <GaViT> zipkid, thank you :) | ||
| [2010/08/06 04:43:27] <zipkid> kickstart -> puppet config -> disconnect ... | ||
| [2010/08/06 04:43:29] <ohookins> not really, if your main objective is to get the machine into a consistent state before you hand it over | ||
| [2010/08/06 04:44:00] <ohookins> just make sure you delete certificates or node definitions after the disconnection is done, so you don't end up blowing away changes unexpected next time (if ever) the machine returns | ||
| [2010/08/06 04:44:01] <zipkid> otherwise puppet is no use, you just need a tool to tailor your kickstart files.... | ||
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| [2010/08/06 05:16:42] <Claer> hi | ||
| [2010/08/06 05:16:48] <zipkid> Hi | ||
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| [2010/08/06 05:18:28] <GaViT> high | ||
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| [2010/08/06 05:19:48] <Claer> I'd like some guidance for developped facts and modules. | ||
| [2010/08/06 05:20:11] <Claer> I have coded simples facts to retrieve the clamav main and daily signatures | ||
| [2010/08/06 05:20:57] <Claer> But, for nodes that do not have the clamav module installed, I have an error because puppet tries to run the fact (and I got an error because signatures are not found) | ||
| [2010/08/06 05:21:27] <zipkid> Then code your fact to handle that... I'd say... | ||
| [2010/08/06 05:21:56] <Claer> It's the next step if I could not avoid starting the fact | ||
| [2010/08/06 05:22:31] <Claer> That's what I wanted to ask ;) | ||
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| [2010/08/06 05:30:35] <zipkid> i don't know if you can easily control the sync/load of facts on a node basis | ||
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| [2010/08/06 05:32:47] <Disconnect> just to check, the facts are in a module that is not included on the client that doesn't have clamav? | ||
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| [2010/08/06 06:07:09] <ashp> i've been having an entire week of nightmarish cifs issues with linux boxes and it turns out that the cifs protocol doesn't handle some kind of nat thing properly | ||
| [2010/08/06 06:07:22] <ashp> and gets confused by two servers in a nat pool connecting to cifs | ||
| [2010/08/06 06:07:25] <ashp> i hate microsoft :( | ||
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| [2010/08/06 06:07:56] <hal-j> perhaps a VPN between the two locations may be in order? | ||
| [2010/08/06 06:08:20] <hal-j> not saying it's a good solution, but you're already committed to cifs :) | ||
| [2010/08/06 06:08:29] <Claer> Disconnect, yes. the module is not included on nodes that do not have clamav | ||
| [2010/08/06 06:09:19] <Claer> and yes the facts are in the module/lib/facter directory | ||
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| [2010/08/06 06:15:11] <ZummiG777> Question - I'd like to add a specific line to a group of fstabs - without editing / modifying other parts of the fstab - what is the way to do that in puppet? | ||
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| [2010/08/06 06:16:21] <Disconnect> ZummiG777: the mount type | ||
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| [2010/08/06 06:18:17] <ZummiG777> Thank you Disconnect! | ||
| [2010/08/06 06:18:36] <Disconnect> np | ||
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| [2010/08/06 06:28:24] <zipkid> ZummiG777: read the cocumentation on the mount type well!! The 'ensure' options are trying to trick the not-carefull reader! | ||
| [2010/08/06 06:28:45] <zipkid> s/cocumentation/documentation/ | ||
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| [2010/08/06 06:29:19] <ZummiG777> OK - ensure is a evil monkey trying to eat my data. Got it. | ||
| [2010/08/06 06:29:36] <zipkid> Exactly | ||
| [2010/08/06 06:29:55] <zipkid> :-) | ||
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| [2010/08/06 06:32:44] <ZummiG777> zipkid: If you have the chance, can you, over a private message copy me on one of your example mounts? It will help me debug since there aren't examples on the mount page. | ||
| [2010/08/06 06:35:23] <zipkid> let me check | ||
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| [2010/08/06 06:50:13] <rgevaert> I was trying to set up mcollective and the pages on their wiki (hi Volcane) point me to the file /var/lib/puppet/state/classes.txt , in my setup this file is empty! How come? | ||
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| [2010/08/06 07:07:09] <ashp> Anyone know of a decent job scheduling system with a web frontend? We're talking like a cron replacement so we can delegate out the ability to manage jobs and check tasks to non-technical people | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:08:07] @ Quit: tecto_: Ping timeout: 276 seconds | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:08:35] <gmason> ashp: if you want to pay for it, Moab from Adaptive Computing is one of the best out there.... | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:08:52] <ashp> paying is fine for anything good | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:09:14] <ashp> our cron situation is a mess, we just spam around emails and don't have any clear pass/fail stuff, no oversight as to what's running/disabled | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:09:17] <gmason> originated in the HPC world, but they are making a move into the datacenter space... | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:09:59] <gmason> you pretty much need a dedicated scheduling machine (ours is a VM, couple of processors, few gig if ram) | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:10:18] <gmason> we're in the HPC space, though. | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:10:20] <ashp> i'll take a look, see if i can find some white papers/docs on how it works as it looks pretty fancy | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:10:28] <ashp> and the website is buzzword cloud city | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:10:42] <gmason> CTO-compliant! | ||
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| [2010/08/06 07:11:03] <ashp> Unified intelligent automation, where a data center-level operating system takes a holistic view over the entire infrastructure, dynamically creates fully functional computing environments, and optimizes the allocation of application services according to organizational policies and required service levels | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:11:08] <ashp> argghhhh | ||
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| [2010/08/06 07:11:28] <gmason> so, it can control power, OS provisioning, etc. | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:11:43] <ashp> yeah, we use foreman for os provisioning and all that kind of stuff | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:11:49] <ashp> but i'll go read up on it anyway | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:12:05] <gmason> It has hooks for using other provisioning tools | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:12:15] <gmason> we're looking into xcat for such a thing | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:12:36] <gmason> Moab can be very data-hungry though, for making its scheduling decisions | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:13:04] <gmason> more of a problem with HPC than the normal datacenter space | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:13:08] <ashp> I'm kind of curious about this when I read about it hooking into vm's and reducing server utilization etc | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:13:26] <ashp> is it some kind of 'tweaks memory/cpu as required?' or more fancy as in 'provisions whole new servers if required' | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:13:48] <gmason> provisions physical and virtual servers as workloads increase | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:13:57] <gmason> hence the "cloud" buzzwords | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:14:25] <gmason> Maui is the free version of Moab | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:14:29] <gmason> but, not as capable | ||
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| [2010/08/06 07:14:55] <gmason> at least in HPC, it's licensed by CPU core... | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:15:07] <gmason> not sure about what they are doing in the datacenter space | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:15:30] <gmason> i can't talk numbers though... | ||
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| [2010/08/06 07:30:57] <joe-mac1> ashp: vmware's stuff will do things like that | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:31:08] <joe-mac1> like it knows a lot about your whole infrastructure and loads required | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:31:19] <joe-mac1> and will shuffle vm's as necessary, as long as you have the license for it, and a nice SAN | ||
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| [2010/08/06 07:35:54] <timdau> Anyone point me to a resource for moving from cfengine? | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:36:14] <rmiller4pi81> ashp: not a whole datacenter runbook solution, but for job scheduling look at azkaban | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:36:23] <rmiller4pi81> we're trialing it right now | ||
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| [2010/08/06 07:37:22] <joe-mac1> ah i realized you're talking about job scheduling not vm scheduling | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:37:27] <joe-mac1> disregard my earlier comment | ||
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| [2010/08/06 07:38:19] <gmason> yeah, the Moab stuff is even better if you have internal department charges to pay for X months worth of a RHEL vm, for example | ||
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| [2010/08/06 07:39:22] <ashp> rmiller4pi81: gonna check it out as well, if i can stop finding links to harry potter :) | ||
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| [2010/08/06 07:42:28] <BLZbubba> when i have puppet change someone's UID and set managehome, it does a good job of changing the ownership. Is there an easy way to have it do the same for the user's default group too? | ||
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| [2010/08/06 07:53:57] <mrchucho> I had to rebuild my puppetmaster... is there something I need to do on the clients to "force" them to perform new certificate requests? | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:54:26] <Disconnect> rm -rf /var/lib/puppet/ssl | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:54:28] <nahamu> mrchucho, delete/move the old certificates? | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:54:43] <mrchucho> nahamu: k, I'll give that a try | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:55:13] <nahamu> Disconnect's command would delete them (run it on the clients) | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:55:37] <Disconnect> yah to clarify, don't do that on the server :) | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:55:59] <joe-mac1> i recently re did certs for every single one of my nodes after i created a new proper ssl cert for my master | ||
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| [2010/08/06 07:56:16] <joe-mac1> luckily i already had cert generation and distribution scripts in place | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:57:08] <mrchucho> perfecto! that worked | ||
| [2010/08/06 07:57:10] <mrchucho> thanks | ||
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| [2010/08/06 08:01:36] * Disconnect has had to do that before. once we lost the puppetmaster, and once someone pointed tmpreaper at /var/lib/puppet instead of the buckets and it ate all the ca info.. | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:05:22] <doubleukay> ouch. | ||
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| [2010/08/06 08:08:16] <joe-mac1> svn my friend | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:08:19] <joe-mac1> all certs are in svn for me | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:08:28] <joe-mac1> the script that gens them also does an svn add after generation | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:08:48] <Disconnect> we're "modern". which means all our data is held by github, just in case it might have been secure.. | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:09:03] <Volcane> heh | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:09:41] <joe-mac1> yea i have thought about using github as an off-site backup for the source tree, but i know nothing of their secrutiy | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:09:46] <joe-mac1> or security either | ||
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| [2010/08/06 08:29:06] <joevano> when realizing a new user should the home directory autocreate? | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:30:22] <Volcane> joevano: if you set the option to do so yes | ||
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| [2010/08/06 08:31:08] <joevano> Volcane: am I doing it wrong? http://pastebin.com/B5Ar2c37 | ||
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| [2010/08/06 08:31:46] <joevano> ah I see a typo | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:31:47] <Volcane> joevano: yup, check the docs, there's a propety to manage the home dir | ||
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| [2010/08/06 08:37:03] <n3kl> Good morning folks | ||
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| [2010/08/06 08:39:46] <vollmer> is there in 0.25 a good way to force a pair of execs to go in a specific order | ||
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| [2010/08/06 08:40:06] <vollmer> both are subscribed to the same file, but they must go A,B as B,A does nothing | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:40:06] <joe-mac1> yea, require/before | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:40:23] <joe-mac1> have the file notify A, then have A notify b | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:40:31] <joe-mac1> i do something similar somewhere, just don't remember where right nowe | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:42:04] <vollmer> hmm can't find any documentation on require/before in relation to exec URL? | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:42:47] <joe-mac1> exec URL? | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:42:54] <vollmer> no as in url to documentation | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:42:57] <joe-mac1> require and before are meta parameters | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:43:07] <joe-mac1> look at the meta parameters section | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:43:11] <vollmer> ahh thanks | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:43:27] <vollmer> pefect | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:43:35] <vollmer> like my typing... :( | ||
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| [2010/08/06 08:45:04] <joe-mac1> lol | ||
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| [2010/08/06 08:52:19] <n3kl> Have you guys started reviewing resumes for the portland jobs posted a couple weeks ago? | ||
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| [2010/08/06 08:56:18] <madduck> how can I find out what tags are automatically associated with a given resource? | ||
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| [2010/08/06 08:56:42] <torrancew> ralsh? | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:56:59] <madduck> i've never even heard of that :( | ||
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| [2010/08/06 08:57:25] <torrancew> no worries, it's not terribly cumbersome | ||
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| [2010/08/06 08:57:55] <torrancew> madduck: http://linux.die.net/man/8/ralsh | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:57:58] <mgk> lo, is there a way to run puppetd so that --server is diffrent from --certname ? | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:58:44] <torrancew> mgk: why would you want to do that, if you don't mind me asking? | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:59:02] <madduck> mgk: you could create a cert with alias names | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:59:05] <torrancew> mgk: ralsh gets installed alongside puppetd | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:59:31] <torrancew> madduck: * | ||
| [2010/08/06 08:59:33] <torrancew> sorry, mgk | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:00:36] <mgk> well, im trying to load ballance between server A and server B, Id like them to be identical apart from addressing. initally connecting with server -server A and with certname being puppet.domain and then using round robing to load balence. That way its a simple case of copying certs frm server A to b | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:00:43] <mgk> if i have explained that well enought | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:00:53] <madduck> torrancew: no automatic tags in the output.:( | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:01:17] <mgk> the CA cert can have aliases? | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:01:46] <madduck> subjAltNames | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:01:52] <torrancew> madduck: sorry, that was my best shot :( | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:01:55] <mgk> can it be created via puppet or does it need to be done with openssl for example? | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:02:01] <madduck> not the CA cert, but the X.509 cert the CA signs | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:02:05] <madduck> mgk: openssl | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:02:30] <mgk> ok i think i follow, thanks for the tip | ||
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| [2010/08/06 09:02:34] <madduck> mgk: e.g. http://scratch.madduck.net/sslkeys__vera.madduck.net.cnf | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:02:51] <mgk> `ah cool thanks | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:03:00] <madduck> but I'd be surprised if you couldn't tell puppet.conf what certname to expect | ||
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| [2010/08/06 09:08:55] <madduck> mgk: since I just needed to create a cert: http://slexy.org/view/s2TwTLy0Bf | ||
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| [2010/08/06 09:11:24] <mgk> oh, cool thanks, i quite like your ps1 | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:12:05] <madduck> it gets better: http://madduck.net/blog/2008.05.07:adding-vcs-information-to-the-zsh-prompt/ | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:13:03] <mgk> oh thats pretty slick | ||
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| [2010/08/06 09:14:33] <madduck> you might prefer http://git.madduck.net/v/etc/zsh.git/blob/HEAD:/.zsh/zshrc/75_vcsinfo | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:14:44] <madduck> i.e. zsh builtin | ||
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| [2010/08/06 09:16:44] <mgk> we had a cv who listed his fav shell as zsh. Had meant to look into it a bit further but i thought it was pretty cool having it in ur cv eitherway. | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:17:23] <madduck> hire him/her! | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:17:34] <mgk> :) we tried! | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:17:55] <madduck> hire me! | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:18:00] <madduck> (just kidding) | ||
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| [2010/08/06 09:18:01] <madduck> ;) | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:18:19] <mgk> think banks and big money made him go that way. days of wearing suits :S | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:18:34] <mgk> but big moneh is always nice | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:18:50] <madduck> i wouldn't know | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:19:02] <huggie> Surely don't hire them because they'll spend half the day pissing about with their shell rather than doing any work :p | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:19:13] <mgk> lol | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:19:19] <huggie> "Yeah and my prompt now tells me what to have for lunch..." | ||
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| [2010/08/06 09:20:25] <madduck> mgk: don't listen to huggie. He's always like that. ;) | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:20:29] * madduck hides under the table | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:20:59] <n3kl> Can I interview please? | ||
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| [2010/08/06 09:22:16] <threescoops> Afternoon all. I had assumed (given a look at the docs and google group) that it was possible to use external nodes and node definitions in a manifest, however that's not the behaviour I'm seeing with 0.25.5 | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:22:25] <n3kl> I've submitted all my paperwork. I have another offer on the table and I live in the Portland area, but I didn't want to say yes to this other offer without having a chance to talk to you guys. | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:22:52] <madduck> threescoops: show what you are doing. generally, external nodes and site.pp are independent | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:23:07] @ Quit: jaredrhine: Ping timeout: 265 seconds | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:23:18] <madduck> n3kl: we are not the ones to talk to | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:23:23] <n3kl> rats | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:23:34] <madduck> no, humans | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:23:43] <madduck> (i believe) | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:23:49] <n3kl> so you are told | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:23:55] <mgk> its rumoured | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:24:03] <n3kl> Do you know who is? | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:24:08] <threescoops> madduck: site.pp has import "nodes". nodes.pp has most nodes defined. I've got a noddy Perl script that gives the expected YAML (as per the external_nodes docs) for a development node | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:24:29] <threescoops> If I remove the import, the external nodes is used and works | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:24:36] <madduck> threescoops: ok, good. | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:24:40] <madduck> now what? | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:24:43] <huggie> Actually talking of hiring people etc... | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:24:54] <huggie> We're hiring (in London). There isn't a puppet-jobs list is there? | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:25:08] <threescoops> If not, then the node isn't listed in nodes.pp, but the external classifier doesn't appear to be invoked | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:25:17] <huggie> Not everything we do is puppet based of course but it might be another way to tap into people doing the right thing. | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:25:29] <madduck> threescoops: I don't think you can/should combine the two | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:25:39] <madduck> huggie: debian-jobs. ;) | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:26:11] <n3kl> Do the Puppet Labs guys hang out in here? | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:26:14] <threescoops> madduck: ah, arse. I was hoping I could swap over from a manifest to external nodes a node at a time | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:26:17] <madduck> n3kl: some times | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:26:27] * threescoops digs around for the thread that gave him this impression | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:26:29] <madduck> threescoops: you should be able to, I think. | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:26:38] <madduck> but i am not sure at all | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:26:58] <threescoops> http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/browse_thread/thread/1f2e2cc7f978f2a4/d013ba6f64debbb6?lnk=gst | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:27:26] <madduck> i am not going to read that | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:27:27] <threescoops> Specifically the mail from Alan Barrett | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:28:30] <threescoops> Well, in that case, the docs say "To use an external node classifier, in ***addition to*** or rather than having to define a node entry for each of your hosts..." | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:28:51] <huggie> madduck: Sadly we're a CentOS house. | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:29:21] <threescoops> So, is anyone running a mix of manifest and extnode nodes, even if it's just a migration from the former to latter | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:29:26] <madduck> threescoops: ""Puppet will merge this empty list of classes and empty dictionary of | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:29:29] <madduck> parameters with whatever it gets from relevant node{} definitions | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:29:30] @ Quit: mikepea: Quit: mikepea | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:29:33] <madduck> in site.pp. i am not sure it does, but it would be nice | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:29:42] <madduck> however, I wouldn't even know what "merge" means in this context | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:30:00] <threescoops> madduck: hrm, good point | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:30:02] <madduck> no, but i can offer you a nice external node classifier scritp. ;) | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:30:12] <bodepd> I am pretty sure site.pp would override params from the classifier. | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:30:20] <madduck> maybe | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:30:26] <madduck> might depend on lunar cycles too | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:30:31] <madduck> it's rubby+puppet after all. ;) | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:30:33] <bodepd> or it would fail... | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:30:52] <bodepd> I think it depends on if the vairables are set at :: or in a node scope. | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:31:01] <bodepd> :: should fail, node scope should override. | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:31:16] <madduck> should" | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:31:20] <madduck> is such a lovely word | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:31:35] <threescoops> madduck: oh? That a serious comment (i.e. you're the maintainer for Foreman etc and I haven't realised) | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:31:41] <bodepd> I could turn should into does, but I'm a little lazy to test. | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:31:58] <threescoops> Obviously extnode scripts are pretty simple things on the face of it | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:32:22] <madduck> threescoops: no, I am not. I am a puppet semi-newbie, ruby critic, puppet ranter, and general troublemaker | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:32:43] <joe-mac1> ohadlevy is the foreman maintainer, unless he gave that up | ||
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| [2010/08/06 09:33:15] <bodepd> hi Jeff | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:33:30] <madduck> threescoops: http://git.madduck.net/v/puppet/reclass.git -- it is based on the simple principles that nodes have roles and classes and parameters are merged (read: overwritten from least to most specific) in a depth-first manner. | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:33:47] <BLZbubba> is it possible for puppet to keep user's groups in sync? in particular, i would like the "managehome" feature to work on both uid and gid | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:33:51] @ Quit: verwilst: Quit: Ex-Chat | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:34:04] <BLZbubba> currently it only changes the uid in the user's home directory | ||
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| [2010/08/06 09:35:02] <threescoops> madduck: I'll tuck that behind my ear for later, ta | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:35:04] <BLZbubba> i'm trying to clean up a few dozen machines that were managed with "useradd" | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:35:20] <torrancew> BLZbubba: you could hack it together with an exec *shudder* | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:35:52] <Volcane> BLZbubba: presumably you have a define to manage users right? why managehome at all then? just manage the homedir with a file resource | ||
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| [2010/08/06 09:36:19] <Volcane> if you're dealing with existing users | ||
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| [2010/08/06 09:38:31] <BLZbubba> Volcane: interesting idea | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:38:39] * threescoops sighs | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:38:53] <BLZbubba> if i just specify gid in the user's definition will it do the right thing? the uid part works so nicely already | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:40:11] <threescoops> madduck: ah ha! Got it | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:40:53] <threescoops> Your comment got me thinking. If there's an empty node definition in nodes.pp then the results from the extnode script get merged in, and I get the results I expect | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:41:05] <madduck> ok, good to know | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:41:09] <madduck> maybe send an update to the thread? | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:41:09] <threescoops> No node definition in the manifest, no dice | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:41:18] <madduck> do you have an empty default node? | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:41:23] <threescoops> Nope | ||
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| [2010/08/06 09:41:38] <threescoops> Perhaps that's a better approach (and/or something I forgot) | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:41:40] <madduck> try that. ;) | ||
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| [2010/08/06 09:43:49] <threescoops> madduck: aye, that works and is much easier to deal with than empty nodes for each migrated node | ||
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| [2010/08/06 09:49:11] <cyrus_mc> http://pastebin.com/mmKTYGjH | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:49:35] <cyrus_mc> When puppet runs automatically every 30 minutes i get all those errors. If i go to the machine that spits that out and run the puppetd command by myself it runs fine | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:49:51] <cyrus_mc> so my thoguht is it is something to do with all the puppet clients checking in at the same time. | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:50:08] <cyrus_mc> is there a way to optimize this to get rid of all these errors? | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:50:43] <Volcane> cyrus_mc: have you setup passenger to run puppetmaster? | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:50:48] <torrancew> cyrus_mc: you could write a function that generates a random number between 0 and 59, and schedule puppetd via cron with that number | ||
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| [2010/08/06 09:51:36] <cyrus_mc> Volcane: not sure what passenger is...let me google it | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:51:43] <cyrus_mc> torrancew: as oppose to running puppetd as a daemon? | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:51:47] <torrancew> yes | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:51:48] <Volcane> cyrus_mc: how many nodes do you run? | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:51:54] <cyrus_mc> 250 | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:52:03] <threescoops> Ah, something else for my todo list: passenger. Still using webbrick | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:52:03] <mgk> passenger is sexeh | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:52:13] <Volcane> if you havnt done anything to the master other than just run puppetmastrd with its own built in webserver you should look at passenger ye | ||
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| [2010/08/06 09:53:01] <cyrus_mc> Volcane: ah.ok..I see, so replacing the builtin webserver with something like apache | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:53:07] <cyrus_mc> I will look into that...thanks | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:53:15] <sEEKz> hi all | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:53:24] <mgk> what version of master are you running cyrus? | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:53:26] <cyrus_mc> Volcane: but the error messages I am seeing are most likely due to this | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:53:28] <cyrus_mc> 0.25.5 | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:53:33] <sEEKz> i've got a strange issue | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:53:47] <sEEKz> puppetd --test --waitforcert 60 | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:53:50] <sEEKz> gives me | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:54:00] <sEEKz> err: Could not request certificate: SSL_connect returned=1 errno=0 state=SSLv3 read finished A: sslv3 alert handshake failure | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:54:09] <Volcane> cyrus_mc: regardless, past 30 nodes you shouldnt use webrick, so whatever errors you have you should move to passenger :) | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:54:15] <mgk> cyrus this may help | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:54:15] <mgk> http://pastie.org/1079951 | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:54:31] <sEEKz> the server never sees request (apache2 with mongrel proxied) | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:54:39] <mgk> the one in the repo seems to be for .26 which is diffrent | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:54:40] <sEEKz> anyone know what's up? | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:54:56] <cyrus_mc> k | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:55:00] <cyrus_mc> one more question - http://pastebin.com/0EmHzVnD | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:55:39] <cyrus_mc> I have that setup to restart the puppetd daemon whenever I change the puppet.conf, however as you can see it says it triggers the refresh but puppet actually never restarts. I can tell this because the time shown by ps as to when puppetd started is old. | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:56:06] <cyrus_mc> I am thinking this has to do with the fact that I try to kill puppetd which is running this code so it just doesn't kill and restart | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:56:27] <mgk> i woudl have thought so, also running by daemon with 250 hosts may not be great for you | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:56:41] <mgk> cron would be the way i think most people go | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:56:42] <Volcane> cyrus_mc: for most config changes you dont need to restart the daemon | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:56:57] <mgk> thats true, puppet reparses changes | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:56:58] <cyrus_mc> really...so I can just update the config file and it will re-read? | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:57:04] <cyrus_mc> nice...ok..good to know | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:57:07] <mgk> yeah you can see it in acction | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:57:17] <mgk> think the olny thing you need to restart wiht is certs | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:57:27] <mgk> or their revocation more specifically | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:57:36] <mgk> iirc | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:57:49] <cyrus_mc> mgk: that link you sent me..what is that for? | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:58:14] <mgk> tis the rack config for puppet to run in passenger | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:58:20] <mgk> the rest of the process is accurate on teh wiki | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:58:34] <mgk> but you need the older version of the file for it to work with .25 | ||
| [2010/08/06 09:58:38] <mgk> whcih that is | ||
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| [2010/08/06 10:00:47] <cyrus_mc> mgk: ok..I will read up on that..thaks for the assistance guys | ||
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| [2010/08/06 10:23:00] <sEEKz> Someone knows if this is a known problem? I can request/sign certificates if the server just runs barebone without apache/mod_proxy in front? | ||
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| [2010/08/06 10:24:41] <Kaelten> seems like 2.6 got a lot of new features | ||
| [2010/08/06 10:24:51] <Volcane> sEEKz: it still runs a webserver, functionally equiv | ||
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| [2010/08/06 10:26:11] <sEEKz> Volcane: I see tcp/traffic, but apache log shows nothing, puppet logs neither | ||
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| [2010/08/06 10:27:51] <sEEKz> seems lik a ssl client / server cert signing thing | ||
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| [2010/08/06 10:40:04] <craftytech> hello all | ||
| [2010/08/06 10:40:40] <craftytech> does anyone generate their /etc/hosts file via storeconfigs/collections? | ||
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| [2010/08/06 10:44:25] <ashp> craftytech: i do | ||
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| [2010/08/06 10:49:24] <craftytech> <ashp>: Can you please share how you did the exporting/importing ? Did you do the exporting and collection on the same class? | ||
| [2010/08/06 10:50:14] <craftytech> so far, what I've done doesn't work for me | ||
| [2010/08/06 10:53:54] <ashp> Let me dig up what I have :) | ||
| [2010/08/06 10:54:46] <ashp> I have a hosts.pp which has a bunch of host{} statements, and then at the end I have http://pastebin.com/qJRNB7ZF | ||
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| [2010/08/06 10:55:05] <shenson> any idea on 2.6rc4 will come out? | ||
| [2010/08/06 10:55:09] <ashp> that exports an entry for every server in puppet and collects them all into a /etc/hosts on every server | ||
| [2010/08/06 10:55:14] <ashp> and strips out old entries etc | ||
| [2010/08/06 10:55:25] <ashp> shenson: 2.6 was released, so uh, never? | ||
| [2010/08/06 10:55:33] <shenson> oh, cool | ||
| [2010/08/06 10:55:42] * shenson goes to find 2.6 gold | ||
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| [2010/08/06 10:57:47] <tonyskapunk> does anybody know how to turn an array into a string like this $foo = "foo:${array}[1] bar:${array}[2]" ? on 0.24.8 | ||
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| [2010/08/06 11:03:42] <craftytech> <ashp>: I see.. thanks sharing.. so you actually outline the entries in your host.pp file.. I was wondering if you they could be extracted straight out of the database.... | ||
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| [2010/08/06 11:09:57] <ashp> craftytech: oh, no idea on that :/ | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:14:05] <ashp> i think i'm going to get a trial of opswise automation center | ||
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| [2010/08/06 11:23:01] <tonyskapunk> argh, seems like there is no way to get an element from an array right? | ||
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| [2010/08/06 11:34:04] <joe-mac1> they're all flattened afaik, not really sure they're 'arrays' by the time you access them | ||
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| [2010/08/06 11:34:18] <joe-mac1> in an erb you might be able to .split(",")[2] or whatever | ||
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| [2010/08/06 11:35:26] <eric0> unless you have 2.6 , thinking about puppet's arrays as if they were bash/perl/ruby arrays will lead to pain | ||
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| [2010/08/06 11:42:12] <S_BS> feature suggestion: use option "--force-yes" for apt-get install on ubuntu | ||
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| [2010/08/06 11:44:28] <miah> reason? | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:45:10] <bdha> Because breaking your shit is good. | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:46:21] <S_BS> couldn't install perlbal without it (used a package from ppa) | ||
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| [2010/08/06 11:47:04] <proprietarysucks> what's the syntax for either of two regex | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:47:18] <proprietarysucks> this is throwing an error: /(100\.100\.101\..*/|100\.100\.200\..*)/ => | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:47:35] <miah> sounds like a problem with your system, or the package | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:47:39] <miah> --force is never a good thing | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:47:41] <tonyskapunk> thanks joe-mac1, eric0, I'm still on 0.24 and I'll like to perform variable manipulation in a pp file, erb works without issues. | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:48:03] <joe-mac1> inline_template() | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:48:20] <proprietarysucks> /(100\.100\.101\..*|100\.100\.200\..*)/ ? | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:48:23] <joe-mac1> proprietarysucks: check out rubular.com | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:48:25] <eric0> proprietarysucks: err that regexp is a bit dodgy, how about /100\.100\.(101|200)\./ | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:48:30] <joe-mac1> real-time checks your regex | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:48:42] <proprietarysucks> ah, heh thanks for both infos | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:49:02] <eric0> don't .* off the end of it, just describe the part you want to match | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:49:49] <S_BS> perhaps the problem is that the package is from ppa, and thus not an official ubuntu package | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:51:23] <miah> is it a pgp signature issue or something? | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:51:46] <joe-mac1> anybody doing ossec with puppet | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:52:05] <miah> somewhat | ||
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| [2010/08/06 11:53:19] <S_BS> i think even after the signature was added, it still required --force-yes | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:53:30] <miah> it seems to me like there must be another issue | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:53:55] <joe-mac1> yea | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:54:00] <joe-mac1> i have custom packages and custom repos | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:54:10] <joe-mac1> never need --force-yes really | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:54:18] <joe-mac1> i add it sometimes to do unattended parallell patching | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:54:22] <joe-mac1> but i think that' | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:54:24] <joe-mac1> s reflex | ||
| [2010/08/06 11:55:35] <S_BS> strange. maybe just for that one package. anyway, im using exec to install it now and it seems ok | ||
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| [2010/08/06 12:04:57] <sarts> How do you guys work around the problem that puppet sometimes takes 300s to update? | ||
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| [2010/08/06 12:07:36] <sarts> notice: Finished catalog run in 296.57 seconds | ||
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| [2010/08/06 12:07:58] <sarts> It is exciting enough when it doesn't take 5 fricking minutes ;-) | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:13:26] <proprietarysucks> can I have multiple actions in a case? I seem to get syntax error | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:14:02] <proprietarysucks> like http://pastebin.com/0Zas1Eha | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:14:50] <proprietarysucks> nevermind.. I need to read up on syntax again | ||
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| [2010/08/06 12:16:13] <proprietarysucks> actually yeah even after I changed the => to : I still get unexpected , expected } | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:16:19] <Volcane> proprietarysucks: get rid of the ","s | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:16:48] <proprietarysucks> ah ok.. | ||
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| [2010/08/06 12:22:03] <joe-mac1> found an ossec module | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:22:05] <joe-mac1> it's gross | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:22:11] <joe-mac1> completely refactoring now lol | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:22:18] <joe-mac1> throw it up on the forge after i test it | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:23:48] <miah> cool | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:29:06] <Determinist> any of you guys managed to get exported resources working with 2.6? | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:29:08] <SEJeff> joe-mac1, Did ossec ever write a real installer? | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:29:22] <SEJeff> Or does it still expect you to compile and run their perl installer on every host? | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:29:52] <joe-mac1> SEJeff: apparently it looks like you can preseed some values | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:30:03] <joe-mac1> it still compiles shit though | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:30:06] <Determinist> keep getting this: | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:30:08] <Determinist> info: Connecting to sqlite3 database: /var/lib/puppet/state/clientconfigs.sqlite3 | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:30:08] <Determinist> err: could not open database: unable to open database file | ||
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| [2010/08/06 12:31:08] <joe-mac1> idk who wrote this, but they seriously have whitespace at the end of random lines | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:31:13] <joe-mac1> weird | ||
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| [2010/08/06 12:32:44] <Determinist> ohh, blah. nm. /var/lib/puppet/state was owned by root:root. changed to puppet:puppet and it works fine. | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:32:55] <SEJeff> joe-mac1, daniel sid. He is a real nice guy. Easy to work with | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:33:07] <joe-mac1> the ossec module? | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:33:12] <joe-mac1> or ossec itself? | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:33:25] <SEJeff> joe-mac1, Ah I was talking about ossec. Once upon a time I wrote this: http://www.digitalprognosis.com/opensource/scripts/ossec-batch-manager.pl | ||
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| [2010/08/06 12:35:06] <joe-mac1> i'm sure the guy who wrote this module is nice too, just looks like probably his first module | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:35:12] <joe-mac1> lots of code duplication and whatnot | ||
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| [2010/08/06 12:36:55] <Determinist> any known issues with having the master be a client of itself in addition to other nodes being clients? | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:37:49] <Disconnect> its standard | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:37:59] <Determinist> so it's ok then? | ||
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| [2010/08/06 12:46:36] <sarts> Is there a way to speed up the run-time of a client? | ||
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| [2010/08/06 12:51:43] <eric0> sarts: you need to figure out where the time is being spent, first. | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:52:01] <sarts> nagios checks | ||
| [2010/08/06 12:52:34] <sarts> the node has 500 nagios services configured. | ||
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| [2010/08/06 13:09:45] <Disconnect> sarts: there is a nagios module that uses templates and config file fragments that was tons faster. (it broke on our end when puppetmaster refused to serve up any directories with hundreds of files :/ ..) | ||
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| [2010/08/06 13:10:48] <Disconnect> it gets pretty awesome if you get too many nagios checks with the native types - it gives up reading halfway through, then writes in a ton of duplicates. (at least icinga doesn't bail when you issue a reload with a bad config - it throws an error and keeps using the old config. istr nagios actually exits, so your nagios host will work for exactly 1 puppet cycle...) | ||
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| [2010/08/06 13:11:36] <Cyis> Maybe I'm just overlooking it... but isn't there a way to test if a class has already been imported into a catalog? need to set a value for a template based on whether another class has been loaded or not | ||
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| [2010/08/06 13:12:50] <sarts> Disconnect: thanks for the tip | ||
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| [2010/08/06 13:17:43] <sarts> The longer I use puppet, the more I feel that you actually need a good interface that allows you to write providers for it on both ends of the pipe, using the right tool for the right job. (shell script, batch files, binaries, etc...) The design of puppet is nice, but at larger configurations, the thing that makes it this good (the flexibility that comes with ruby) is also it's weakness. | ||
| [2010/08/06 13:22:48] @ Quit: Hallaj: Ping timeout: 240 seconds | ||
| [2010/08/06 13:24:40] <sarts> I mean: 'ruby gems are generally not that stable (why do you need passenger 2.2.9 instead of 2.2.15 and rack 1.1.0 instead of 1.2.1)?' and ruby is not very fast. | ||
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| [2010/08/06 13:32:18] <managin> ëþäè!! | ||
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| [2010/08/06 13:39:04] <Volcane> sarts: generally things are version specific cos the api's have changed in the future versions | ||
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| [2010/08/06 13:43:08] <hal-j> simple solution - don't change the APIs | ||
| [2010/08/06 13:43:18] <hal-j> c'mon, do I have to think of everything? :) | ||
| [2010/08/06 13:44:47] <Volcane> yeah, the people who write passenger are tards | ||
| [2010/08/06 13:45:41] <|Mike|> how so | ||
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| [2010/08/06 13:46:30] <Volcane> ever install it? | ||
| [2010/08/06 13:46:33] <joe-mac1> lmao | ||
| [2010/08/06 13:47:05] <|Mike|> yeps | ||
| [2010/08/06 13:47:27] <Volcane> and you didnt think 'wow, this works awesomly, cant wait to do this on 500 machines?' | ||
| [2010/08/06 13:47:53] <rmiller4pi81> hahaha | ||
| [2010/08/06 13:48:11] <rmiller4pi81> they clearly learned everything they knew about installers from Zend Platform | ||
| [2010/08/06 13:48:16] <Volcane> lol | ||
| [2010/08/06 13:48:30] <|Mike|> hahaha | ||
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| [2010/08/06 13:49:45] <joe-mac1> Volcane: you using any IDS stuff/ | ||
| [2010/08/06 13:50:13] <Volcane> joe-mac1: not much | ||
| [2010/08/06 13:50:31] <Volcane> joe-mac1: i do some monitoring on my loghost and kill ssh scanners and such but not more | ||
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| [2010/08/06 13:50:39] <joe-mac1> o i c | ||
| [2010/08/06 13:50:45] <joe-mac1> setting up ossec right now | ||
| [2010/08/06 13:50:49] <joe-mac1> just finished the module for it | ||
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| [2010/08/06 14:12:29] <benkevan> instead of working on ssh keys today like I should be.. I think I'm just going to be lazy and browse the web until I'm off | ||
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| [2010/08/06 14:13:30] <benkevan> joergherzinger: do yo ushare your modules? | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:14:06] <benkevan> grr that was actually for joe-mac | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:14:26] <hal-j> benkevan: I see your lazyness and raise you a "and it's my last day before a week vacation" | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:14:38] <hal-j> so yeah, I accomplished very little today | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:14:45] <hal-j> under the guise of not wanting to break anything before I leave | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:15:04] <benkevan> hal-j: nice way to talk yourself into a lazyday.. I just don't feel like doing crap haha | ||
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| [2010/08/06 14:15:34] <miah> i havent felt like doing crap all week | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:15:50] <hal-j> I deserve a non-crazy week once in a while | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:16:09] <benkevan> yah.. my brain is fried from learning all this puppet this last week or 2 | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:16:16] <miah> ive been up late several nights this week dealing with a horrible vendor that some of my servers are at | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:16:23] * Volcane was totally useless and lazy today as well | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:17:42] <miah> i think this weekend while at my bf's house i'll try to finish off some modules, need to upload them to forge | ||
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| [2010/08/06 14:20:45] <hal-j> my only aim for this weekend and next week, is not to get an emergency call for anything I'm responsible for | ||
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| [2010/08/06 14:21:18] * Volcane 's in paris most of next week | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:21:40] <miah> nice | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:21:50] * miah will remain in SF for the immediate future | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:21:53] <hal-j> in fact, as evil as it sounds, I hadn't given newco's ops team access to any of my servers until this morning | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:22:05] <hal-j> and I've been a newco employee for about 8 months now :P | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:23:00] <hal-j> so, if anything goes wrong, I will get called | ||
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| [2010/08/06 14:23:58] <hal-j> of course, my blackberry's vibrate motor gave up the ghost today | ||
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| [2010/08/06 14:26:12] <miah> im on call next week, so im sure i will get calls | ||
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| [2010/08/06 14:27:15] * Volcane 's not had calls for months, but its always while you're away that they come | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:27:51] <hal-j> thats my assumption as well | ||
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| [2010/08/06 14:28:47] <hal-j> I'd have to lose several servers at once to warrant a middle of the night call... I've got things pretty well redundant (I'm in AWS, so there's not much choice) | ||
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| [2010/08/06 14:32:51] <miah> well, im production systems, so the operations center people will escalate to me if they cant solve the problem | ||
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| [2010/08/06 14:47:35] <benkevan> not to mention learning SLES (since I've migrated from SLES to RHEL) and on top of that.. a bunch of other crap.. | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:47:39] <benkevan> yeah.. I don't want to work | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:47:41] <benkevan> i may have to go home early | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:55:49] <miah> i will leave work today when i get picked up | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:56:55] <eric0> is that low-contrast tartan plaid on the puppetlabs css new? | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:56:56] <benkevan> miah: where are you? might be a good reason for me to have to vacate? | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:57:15] <miah> hrm? | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:57:40] <|Mike|> haha | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:58:19] <benkevan> dammit.. someone give me a reason to leave | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:58:24] <benkevan> ooh.. i should call the dentist | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:58:24] <miah> ah | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:58:28] <miah> i'm in SF | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:58:51] <benkevan> miah: ok.. perfect.. I'm in Hercules (Near the Carquinez Bridge).. perfect reason to leave.. be there in an hour HAHA.. | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:59:07] <miah> lol | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:59:17] <miah> my boy is going to pick me up when he gets off work | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:59:20] <benkevan> I am going to VMworld at the end of the month, and I've never taken bart (the event is in mascone center).. I'm scared as hell I'm going to get lost | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:59:29] <miah> ah | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:59:36] <miah> well, bart in SF is easy, it goes in a straight line | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:59:46] <miah> get off at Powell street, walk up 4th st, and you'll hit Moscone | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:59:49] <Ac-town> bart is lightrail right? | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:59:53] <miah> yes | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:59:55] <benkevan> I'd be getting on in El Cerrito? or Richmond.. or actulaly concord may be easier.. dunno | ||
| [2010/08/06 14:59:57] <Ac-town> yeah, those are nice | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:00:06] <miah> well, bart is more train, its not technically light rail | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:00:11] <miah> muni is lightrail | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:00:14] <benkevan> ah sweet.. writing down what to get off at.. | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:00:16] <miah> we have *2* train systems here | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:00:18] <Ac-town> ah | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:00:21] <benkevan> miah: where the F do I get tickets? haha | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:00:24] <miah> bart goes in and out of the city | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:00:30] <Ac-town> there is something like that close to me in portland | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:00:32] <Ac-town> the MAX | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:00:33] <miah> bart tickets are sold at every bart station i've been to | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:00:48] <benkevan> oh.. just put money in something like an ATM and get a ticket? | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:00:58] <eric0> yes, its fun and easy | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:01:01] <miah> ya, there is a ticket machine, it takes cash | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:01:13] <miah> i have one of those rfid tags though. | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:01:21] <benkevan> embedded in your skin? | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:01:25] <miah> no | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:01:31] <benkevan> was a joke :P | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:01:38] <miah> i wouldnt embedd anything from the SFMTA into my skin | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:01:48] <benkevan> HAHA.. | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:01:49] * eric0 nearly got n judah embedded in my skin | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:02:05] <miah> lol | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:02:10] <miah> j line ftw | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:02:29] <miah> i take the bus more than anything, cuz there is no trains in the inner richmond :/ | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:02:44] <benkevan> miah: and I wonder why | ||
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| [2010/08/06 15:03:00] <miah> short muni ride in the morning to work though, cuz the bus is slow when it gets to market | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:03:16] <miah> benkevan: bad planning, budget cuts, greed | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:03:23] <miah> everything in this city is managed really badly | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:03:32] <benkevan> and the possibility of high jacking haha | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:03:50] @ Quit: gniks: Quit: Leaving. | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:04:03] <miah> http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-08-02/bay-area/22007127_1_governance-municipal-transportation-agency-supervisors-president-david-chiu | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:04:06] <miah> .. :/ | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:04:21] <miah> more the possibility of getting into a fight on the bus than getting mugged | ||
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| [2010/08/06 15:05:01] <miah> at least they stopped handing out non-enforcable tickets on the bus | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:05:03] * eric0 sad that puppetcamp is gonna be downtown instead of sfsu, i know i'm in the minority but i love biking ocean beach->lake merced last year | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:05:17] <benkevan> there is a puppet camp? | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:05:20] <miah> they spent over a million for the muni cops to hand out tickets, that they cannot enforce and only collected like $12000 | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:05:44] <miah> sfsu is in bfe | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:05:46] <eric0> benkevan: http://www.puppetlabs.com/events/puppet-camp-2010-san-francisco/ | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:05:59] <miah> not that my company would send me to puppet camp, but i would go downtown | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:06:13] <|Mike|> I wonder how many people are attending at puppetcamp | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:06:26] <miah> maybe i will meet up with people again for drinks some night though | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:06:30] <benkevan> are they actually informational? | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:06:35] <benkevan> I'd obviously have to pay for myself | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:06:44] <benkevan> I haven't even implemented puppet (well it's on 3 machines YAY) | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:06:54] <eric0> YMMV but it was the best tech session i've ever attended | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:07:11] <miah> i implemented it for a bunch of clueless fucks at reliant energy | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:07:16] <miah> and at my previous job | ||
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| [2010/08/06 15:07:47] <miah> those people at reliant were so annoying, i tried so hard to fix their problems and they jsut wanted everything to be so messed up and unmanagable for job security reasons | ||
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| [2010/08/06 15:08:24] <miah> why upgrade to a newer version of opensuse? we'll just custom compile our own ssh etc | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:08:41] <miah> thought iptables would block kernel level exploits | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:08:44] <proprietarysucks> how could I ensure that mac systems would retain the mounts puppet enforces, if the puppet server is down and a mac system is rebooted | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:08:48] <miah> guh. i need to stop thinking about that place | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:09:14] <eric0> proprietarysucks: eh? the mount type modifies fstab in addition to mounting on the current system | ||
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| [2010/08/06 15:10:57] <proprietarysucks> Mac(tm) | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:11:18] <benkevan> haha.. i'd probably be one of those dumb fucks | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:11:36] <proprietarysucks> I'm not a mac guy so not sure, but ls /etc/fstab returns nothing on mac systems | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:12:38] <miah> benkevan: lol. | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:13:07] <miah> i dont have problems with people doing things a certain way, but when you ask me to make things managable, and automate things. don't get mad when i want to change how things are currently working | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:13:20] <benkevan> I've had a hard time with it.. 2 weeks.. and finally implemented like 10 modules (maybe 12) .. big learning curve (but learning a ton of other shit too) | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:14:11] <miah> i have tons of stuff, i just need to port it all to 2.6, and standardize some things. my older stuff isn't modularized, and its not following any of the 'best practices' =) | ||
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| [2010/08/06 15:14:41] <benkevan> I'm on 2.6 :D .. but i basically did everything as the .24 (from the book.. ) haha | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:15:05] <miah> ya, i started on 2.4 =) | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:15:20] <benkevan> I just went to auto import stuff :D | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:15:24] <benkevan> that was exciting | ||
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| [2010/08/06 15:33:48] <benkevan> man.. next thursday is going to be crazy for me | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:33:57] <benkevan> sons doctors appointment | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:34:00] <benkevan> my dentist appointment | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:34:15] <benkevan> and finally made an appointment to see if I can get a cyst removed from my leg | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:34:30] <|Mike|> toes? | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:34:49] <benkevan> naw.. I dunno what it's from.. probably from cycling weight cuts / bulking haha | ||
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| [2010/08/06 15:35:39] <|Mike|> Some kind if hair did grow into your skin? | ||
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| [2010/08/06 15:36:06] <benkevan> naw.. this cyst is like an inch and a half wide now | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:36:28] <shiruken> I do like excuses that are related to healthy activities | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:36:30] <benkevan> I do alot of weight cutting / bulking / vitamins etc for jiu-jitsu and mma.. guessing it's from that | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:36:39] <shiruken> no one would ever admit that they got a cyst from rampant heroin use | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:36:51] <benkevan> shiruken: naw.. but the tracks are from that | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:36:55] <shiruken> lol | ||
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| [2010/08/06 15:41:31] <|Mike|> define a lot of weight cutting/bulking... | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:41:41] <|Mike|> since you can't do both within 3 months :P | ||
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| [2010/08/06 15:48:24] <benkevan> |Mike|: for example.. I've been lifting heavy for 2 months.. and was offered a fight on a card on Sept 11th.. right now I'm at 193 and need to get to 180 (catch weight Amature) | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:48:52] <benkevan> you're thinking cutting / bulking in primarly the lifting scene :D | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:49:03] <benkevan> i'm talking really just massive changes in my diet | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:49:19] <benkevan> like now I'm doing tons of salads and drinks | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:50:01] <|Mike|> benkevan: yep, that's exactly what I was thinking off :) | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:50:02] <|Mike|> *of | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:50:03] <benkevan> and I'm hungry as hell right now | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:50:39] <benkevan> and if I were purely weight lifting I'd be cycling supplements :D | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:50:56] <|Mike|> anyway, it's 00:50 here in NL and that's also a nice time to go to bed :) | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:50:57] <|Mike|> nn. | ||
| [2010/08/06 15:51:17] <benkevan> it's 15:51 here in California.. and I want to get the f out of dodge | ||
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| [2010/08/06 16:04:32] <benkevan> f this.. going home.. | ||
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| [2010/08/06 16:04:43] <hephaestus> hehe | ||
| [2010/08/06 16:04:46] <hephaestus> have fun | ||
| [2010/08/06 16:05:01] <miah> hi hephaestus =) | ||
| [2010/08/06 16:06:20] <hephaestus> hi. i understand you're an awesome systems engineer. sexy also. | ||
| [2010/08/06 16:06:48] <hephaestus> would you be interested in perhaps getting together this evening and showing me your *ahem* site.pp? | ||
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| [2010/08/06 17:44:02] <proprietarysucks> how can I comply with this error: http://pastebin.com/vD8v51EE | ||
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| [2010/08/06 17:44:27] <proprietarysucks> I'm a little bit confused about it: I've been just deleting all the certs and such that I could find but that didn't work | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:47:34] <miah> does your hostname match the dns entries? | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:47:55] <proprietarysucks> of the server or the client | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:48:04] <miah> both | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:48:19] <miah> ssl needs dns stuff setup correctly | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:48:34] <miah> both forward and reverse entries, otherwise you'll get fun cert issues | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:48:44] <proprietarysucks> the reverse has the fqdn while the host name is just the.. well.. host name | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:49:19] <proprietarysucks> meanwhile the client has reverse of fqdn and host name of fqdn | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:49:21] <miah> ok, well does the A and PTR records match the hostname? | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:49:29] <miah> because thats what matters | ||
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| [2010/08/06 17:50:21] <proprietarysucks> if I dig the host name of the server I get nothing | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:50:23] <mackn> i don't think the ptr matters | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:50:30] <proprietarysucks> but if I dig the fqdn I get the A record | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:50:34] <miah> ptr totally matters | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:50:43] <proprietarysucks> even though I have the domain in my search line of resolv.conf | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:50:50] <proprietarysucks> which actually makes no sense to me | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:50:58] <miah> dig doesnt care about search paths | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:51:18] <proprietarysucks> oh I got you, it just directly queries the dns server with the string given | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:51:23] <miah> right | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:51:41] <proprietarysucks> ok so where does that leave me? if we only care about host name and not fqdn then the dns seems right | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:51:43] <miah> dig -x <ip> | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:51:48] <miah> and dig <hostname.fqdn> | ||
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| [2010/08/06 17:51:58] <proprietarysucks> I literally just did those and posted the results | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:52:07] <proprietarysucks> the reverse has the fqdn while the host name is just the.. well.. host name | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:52:11] <proprietarysucks> meanwhile the client has reverse of fqdn and host name of fqdn | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:52:23] <miah> so fix it | ||
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| [2010/08/06 17:52:35] <proprietarysucks> so I need to change the host name of the server to the fqdn then? | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:52:39] <mackn> errr | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:52:49] <miah> it needs to match whatever is in the cert | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:52:56] <miah> and the cert generally needs to match dns | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:52:58] <miah> that is how ssl works | ||
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| [2010/08/06 17:53:14] <proprietarysucks> there's both of them | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:53:18] <mackn> is the error you pasted from a client | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:53:22] <proprietarysucks> I have hostname.pem and fqdn.pem | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:53:37] <proprietarysucks> yeah it's from running a puppetd test command which by the way works on another client | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:54:15] <mackn> did you change the hostname on the client since running puppetd for the first time on the client and/or did you use another client with the same hostname to connecto the master | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:54:22] <mackn> hostname being what `hostname` returns | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:54:41] <proprietarysucks> the IP address has changed most likely | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:54:59] <proprietarysucks> I rebuilt the entire network to have VLANs after having this test puppet setup going | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:55:17] <proprietarysucks> aamof I know the IP has changed | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:55:25] <mackn> ip changing shouldn't matter | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:55:26] <proprietarysucks> the host name has not changed of either party involved | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:55:31] @ Quit: \ask: Remote host closed the connection | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:55:49] <proprietarysucks> except that the client may have had the change from hostname to fqdn | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:56:14] <proprietarysucks> definitely the server has not changed ip or hostname in any way | ||
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| [2010/08/06 17:56:25] <mackn> it's the cliet's hostname | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:56:55] <mackn> did you try to clean the old stuff with puppetca --clean | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:56:59] <mackn> on the master | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:58:06] <proprietarysucks> I just now deleted the signed cert for the client (it DID have the fqdn) | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:58:18] <proprietarysucks> and I ran puppetca --clean :all and tried again... same error | ||
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| [2010/08/06 17:58:51] <proprietarysucks> and I also confirmed that it does not error on another client | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:59:01] <mackn> is your client's ssl dir in /var/lib/puppet/ssl ? | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:59:26] <proprietarysucks> yeah | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:59:36] <mackn> rm it | ||
| [2010/08/06 17:59:40] <mackn> and try again | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:00:00] <mackn> oh | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:00:09] <mackn> wait rm it.. then puppetca --clean hostname again | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:00:11] <mackn> and then try uit | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:00:11] <proprietarysucks> http://pastebin.com/QyHV8CQk | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:00:11] <mackn> it | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:00:17] <proprietarysucks> the whol directory? | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:00:19] <mackn> yeah | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:00:21] <proprietarysucks> alright | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:00:23] <mackn> rm the ssl di on the client | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:00:31] <mackn> and then on the master puppetca --clean clienthostname | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:00:36] <mackn> and then try running puppetd on the clent | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:00:47] <proprietarysucks> ahh yeah that worked | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:00:50] <proprietarysucks> thanks a lot mackn | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:00:53] <mackn> np | ||
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| [2010/08/06 18:01:32] <proprietarysucks> are you a mac guy? | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:01:45] <mackn> well yes but my real name is actually mack :) | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:02:03] <mackn> i'm not mac exclusive but i use it over winbloze | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:02:06] <proprietarysucks> do you use puppet on mac at all? | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:02:09] <mackn> no | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:02:12] <proprietarysucks> alrighty | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:02:14] <mackn> that sounds scary to me | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:02:21] <mackn> but many people do use it | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:02:23] <mackn> on osx | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:02:33] <proprietarysucks> yeah I've used it minimally on mac | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:02:39] <proprietarysucks> I had a question about it | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:02:48] <proprietarysucks> but I could probably get it figured out by testing | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:02:56] <proprietarysucks> I'm a linux guy mainly | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:03:22] <proprietarysucks> I know that like with linux you can manage mounts and just set atboot to true, and that will change your fstab for you | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:03:38] <proprietarysucks> I was wondering if that functionality would work with mac, since it doesn't have an fstab | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:03:51] @ Quit: craftytech: Ping timeout: 252 seconds | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:03:54] <proprietarysucks> and from what some mac guys are telling me, it doesn't have a really easy way to emulate this concept | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:04:11] <proprietarysucks> so that basically if the puppetmaster is unreachable and a mac reboots, we still want the mounts to happen | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:04:13] <mackn> that's beyond my scope of mac knowledge | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:04:18] <proprietarysucks> alrighty | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:04:24] <mackn> i'm sure there must be a way | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:04:47] <proprietarysucks> it would be puppetish to 'just work magically' but I'm not getting my hopes up at this point | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:04:49] <mackn> it's just not obvious.. prolly buried deep in some xml file | ||
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| [2010/08/06 18:13:11] <proprietarysucks> ugh | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:13:15] <proprietarysucks> what's this business about now | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:13:17] <proprietarysucks> warning: peer certificate won't be verified in this SSL session | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:13:19] <proprietarysucks> different client | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:13:26] <proprietarysucks> new client entirely | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:13:37] <proprietarysucks> afaik I had the puppetmaster to automatically sign all requests | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:17:26] <proprietarysucks> also, the puppetmaster has spelled the client's name wrong | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:17:28] <proprietarysucks> (!) | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:18:13] @ Quit: bodepd: Quit: bodepd | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:18:17] <proprietarysucks> looks like it's from facter | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:19:20] <proprietarysucks> I have verified that reverse dns is correct | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:19:33] <proprietarysucks> I have verified that /etc/sysconfig/network has the correct domain name | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:19:59] <proprietarysucks> `hostname` returns the host name only ( I just added the fqdn into /etc/sysconfig/network and restarted network) | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:20:09] <proprietarysucks> I have verified that A record is correct | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:20:17] <proprietarysucks> however facter is spelling the domain wrong | ||
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| [2010/08/06 18:21:56] <proprietarysucks> wow that's bad | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:22:16] <proprietarysucks> but it's almost time to leave work: I'll leave the bug report till later I guess | ||
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| [2010/08/06 18:34:55] <sako> hey guys, any of you have experience with puppet on ubuntu? | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:35:23] <sako> i am going to use puppet to setup and manage a webserver and was wondering if anyone can report on their experience with the tow | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:35:27] <sako> two* | ||
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| [2010/08/06 18:38:24] <jhelwig> sako: I'll be able to let you know in about 2 weeks. ;-) It's been a couple of years since I last used Puppet on Ubuntu, but I don't remember any real issues. | ||
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| [2010/08/06 18:40:41] <gutseb> hellop | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:40:43] <gutseb> hello | ||
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| [2010/08/06 18:40:59] <gutseb> I need some assistance. | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:41:22] <gutseb> http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/browse_thread/thread/ffc5e86addb7cc47/82d064f35d08a69a?show_docid=82d064f35d08a69a | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:41:29] <gutseb> I was looking at this thread | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:41:42] <gutseb> and we are having a somewhat similar issue | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:42:24] <gutseb> One of our admins updated from puppet 2.5.0 to puppet 2.6 via rpm. | ||
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| [2010/08/06 18:43:37] <gutseb> I do not have all the details but I think the puppetmaster was updating some things in the background | ||
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| [2010/08/06 18:44:18] <gutseb> after a while we were left with a puppetmaster that is pushing out empty files to our clients | ||
| [2010/08/06 18:44:50] <gutseb> so far we have found a /etc/puppet/puppet.conf | ||
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| [2010/08/06 18:45:20] <gutseb> a empty /etc/xinetd.conf from one of our modules. | ||
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| [2010/08/06 18:46:37] <gutseb> We also have empty /var/lib/puppet/classes.txt | ||
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| [2010/08/06 18:49:51] <gutseb> I also forgot to mention the patch in the thread did not work for me. =) | ||
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| [2010/08/06 20:20:33] <blkperl> so i discovered today that the puppet website doesnt' support IE, which i thought was funny :) | ||
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| [2010/08/06 20:25:31] <jhelwig> blkperl: What was broken in IE? | ||
| [2010/08/06 20:25:55] <blkperl> jhelwig: the navigation | ||
| [2010/08/06 20:26:30] <blkperl> the fancy nav bar doesn't render purple and pretty :) | ||
| [2010/08/06 20:27:03] <blkperl> i bet it will work in IE9 though | ||
| [2010/08/06 20:27:49] <jhelwig> You were in IE8? | ||
| [2010/08/06 20:27:53] <blkperl> yes | ||
| [2010/08/06 20:28:03] <jhelwig> Ah. | ||
| [2010/08/06 20:28:24] <blkperl> although IE9 is only in beta right now | ||
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| [2010/08/06 20:48:07] <fruers> I'd like to calculate a network/broadcast address from an ip/netmask in an ERB template | ||
| [2010/08/06 20:48:16] <fruers> Has anyone done this or know whether it's possible? | ||
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| [2010/08/06 20:49:50] <fruers> Specifically I want to have a define network::interface($if_ipaddress, $if_netmask) {} which generates network configuration | ||
| [2010/08/06 20:50:27] <fruers> It's probably not much more to ask for the gateway, but I'm wondering if it's possible anyway | ||
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| [2010/08/06 23:48:56] <doubleukay> is there a native type for managing named sockets? I am currently using exec mkfifo to make them. | ||
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