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| [2010/08/12 00:33:02] <FiXion> sako: only if you run your puppetmaster server on localhost | ||
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| [2010/08/12 02:02:50] <duritong> nico: thanks for the blogpost | ||
| [2010/08/12 02:05:09] <nico> duritong: :) | ||
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| [2010/08/12 03:11:20] <jetole> does anyone know how I can perform an exec only if a file has changed? I basically if /etc/aliases is changed, I want to change it back to what it was and then run /usr/bin/newaliases. I think this mostly works now but I am running newaliases everytime even if the file hasn't changed | ||
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| [2010/08/12 03:15:05] <ohookins> jetole: notify | ||
| [2010/08/12 03:15:22] <jetole> thanks | ||
| [2010/08/12 03:15:36] <ohookins> also you need to make sure your exec has "refreshonly => true" | ||
| [2010/08/12 03:15:39] <huggie> jetole: Add refreshonly to your exec though once you use notify or subscribe between the file and exec. http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/stable/type.html#exec | ||
| [2010/08/12 03:17:44] <jetole> I already have subscribe, gonna look at refresh only docs now | ||
| [2010/08/12 03:18:14] <jetole> exec { "/usr/bin/newaliases": subscribe => mailalias[ "root", "postmaster", "jetole" ], } | ||
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| [2010/08/12 03:18:26] <jetole> thats the current exec | ||
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| [2010/08/12 03:23:11] <jetole> refreshonly worked. | ||
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| [2010/08/12 03:23:21] <jetole> Thanks ohookins and huggie! | ||
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| [2010/08/12 03:25:20] <Tare> hello, how can I tell puppet to agree a licenseagreement during package-installation? its the package sun-java6-jdk | ||
| [2010/08/12 03:25:34] <barn> Tare: debian preseeding? | ||
| [2010/08/12 03:25:40] <barn> (am guessing debian) | ||
| [2010/08/12 03:26:33] <barn> http://blogs.cae.tntech.edu/mwr/2008/02/05/stupid-puppet-trick-agreeing-to-the-sun-java-license-with-debconf-preseeds-and-puppet/ | ||
| [2010/08/12 03:29:37] <ohookins> Tare: this is how it is usually done in RPM spec files: http://pastie.org/1087991 | ||
| [2010/08/12 03:29:40] <ohookins> relatively trivial | ||
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| [2010/08/12 03:42:49] <dcarley> anyone have experience of a many-to-many relationship between nodes and exported resources? | ||
| [2010/08/12 03:42:57] <dcarley> i have a 2~ load balancers and a number of frontend http machines. ideally i'd like to write a single vhost for all http machines and have it register on all of the load balancers in one go, or vice versa. but i'm struggling to structure it in a way that doesn't result in duplicated resources. | ||
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| [2010/08/12 03:46:24] <ohadlevy> dcarley: I use foreman query interface via a puppet function, but not really sure how complex your setup is | ||
| [2010/08/12 03:49:20] <dcarley> interesting, i haven't seen that feature of foreman before. | ||
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| [2010/08/12 03:50:48] <dcarley> i've been meaning to look at foreman again. but i'd quite like to do this without any additional magic. | ||
| [2010/08/12 03:51:44] * ohadlevy never used storeconfigs because of a distributed puppetmasters setup | ||
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| [2010/08/12 03:53:17] <dcarley> fair enough. i'm fortunate that all of the features i do use it for are contained within individual locations. although i loathe storeconfigs slightly anyway. | ||
| [2010/08/12 03:54:05] <dcarley> i guess what i'd "like" is for the identical exported resources to be merged into one. or just have one the load balancer :) | ||
| [2010/08/12 03:54:26] <dcarley> i might just have to put up with separate manifests for them though. | ||
| [2010/08/12 03:54:49] <ohookins> sorry to spam multiple channel, but puppet-dev is fairly dead right now... can anyone who is awake point me in the direction of how i get completely new tests recognised by autotest? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 04:12:03] <threescoops> Afternoon all. To rephrase a question/issue I had yesterday: is additional configuration required (in fileserver.conf/auth.conf) to ensure modules can serve files when multiple environments are in use? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 04:12:28] <threescoops> The docs suggest not, but the issue I'm seeing suggests I've overlooked something | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:13:54] <gilesw> heya puppetiers | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:13:55] <dcarley> threescoops: shouldn't do. | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:14:30] <gilesw> I'm wanting to test out my package preseed files without running puppet, is there a way I can pass the preseed into apt-get? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 04:14:49] <threescoops> dcarley: hrm. | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:15:50] <threescoops> All modules still use source => "puppet:///modules/foo/bar" to serve the bar file from the foo module, regardless of which environment's modulepath has foo? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 04:21:28] <dcarley> threescoops: correct | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:21:46] <dcarley> threescoops: what's the behaviour you're seeing and what version of puppet? | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:22:12] <threescoops> dcarley: 0.25.5 from EPEL on Centos 5, stock ruby | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:22:57] <threescoops> Have production and development environments, driven from external node tool | ||
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| [2010/08/12 04:23:50] <threescoops> I've got a simple module to update the motd in an 'motd' module in the modulepaths for production and development | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:24:08] <threescoops> For a 'development' machine, I see the following error when running puppetd --test | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:24:11] <threescoops> err: //motd/File[/etc/motd]: Failed to retrieve current state of resource: Could not retrieve information from source(s) puppet:///modules/motd/motd at /etc/puppet/modules/development/motd/manifests/init.pp:8 | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:24:54] <threescoops> puppet.conf and fileserver.conf at http://pastie.org/1086409 | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:25:11] <threescoops> This is a test box, puppetmaster and client are the same machines | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:25:49] <threescoops> Have also added environments = production, development into [main], no change in behaviour | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:26:48] <dcarley> threescoops: what happens if you remove fileserver.conf altogether? | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:27:50] <dcarley> threescoops: also, run the puppetmasterd up with --debug and see what happens at the point of failure. | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:28:36] <threescoops> dcarley: no change if I move fileserver.conf out of the way | ||
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| [2010/08/12 04:30:50] <dcarley> mm, i misread it, it wouldn't make a difference. but you probably don't need to have it there (or at least the [modules] content). | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:32:34] <threescoops> I'm failing to see anything meaningful in my puppet log right now, puppetmasterd is backgrounding, need to change that I think | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:33:56] <threescoops> --no-daemonize++ | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:34:10] <threescoops> info: Could not find file_metadata for 'modules/motd/motd' | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:34:17] <threescoops> Doesn't look promising | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:34:52] <threescoops> Sorry, need to go AFK | ||
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| [2010/08/12 04:49:38] <popus> hi all | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:51:49] <popus> I have a little question about puppet features: is it possible to create manifests file in that manner that puppet manage each node to end some kind of task (update), wait till that task ends and start it on another node ? | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:52:19] <popus> and. so on.. | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:52:57] <popus> would You pls give me some hints (if it's possible) how to achieve that ? | ||
| [2010/08/12 04:53:17] <dcarley> threescoops: it might be useful to pastie the whole thing anyway. | ||
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| [2010/08/12 04:53:49] <ohookins> popus: you might be better off with something like capistrano or func | ||
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| [2010/08/12 04:54:02] <dcarley> popus: not within puppet itself. you could use some other tool. i'm curious as to why though? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 04:54:19] <dcarley> s/tool/tool to hook puppet/ | ||
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| [2010/08/12 04:58:21] <popus> dcarley: let's say that I have some backends which while being updated need to be switched off from frontend.. and I just want to update each one .. by one.. anyway, that give me a little to think.. is it really the right way that I'm trying to achieve goal | ||
| [2010/08/12 05:00:06] <Tare> barn and ohookins thanks for your help with the install... took some time get it working | ||
| [2010/08/12 05:00:39] <barn> (: | ||
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| [2010/08/12 05:04:55] <dcarley> popus: having said that, run stages and a big splattering of dependencies might do what you want. | ||
| [2010/08/12 05:05:40] <kjetilho> hmm. a notify implies a dependency? | ||
| [2010/08/12 05:07:22] <popus> dcarley: thx, I'll check it :) | ||
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| [2010/08/12 05:32:31] <popus> bye | ||
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| [2010/08/12 05:38:50] <mauve> Hi, we've started getting messages like "err: Could not run Puppet configuration client: interning empty string" as Debian squeeze now has puppet 2.6. Is this perhaps caused by trying to run 2.6 against a 0.25.4 puppetmaster? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 05:48:54] <FiXion> mauve: you should never run a client newer than your server version | ||
| [2010/08/12 05:49:21] <FiXion> and since puppet is rather new - you're safest if they are all the same version :) | ||
| [2010/08/12 05:49:38] <FiXion> I roll my own packages for all os's here - so I can control which version we run | ||
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| [2010/08/12 05:55:46] <mauve> FiXion: That's very sensible but a lot of work | ||
| [2010/08/12 05:58:33] <gilesw> hrm is the www-data user on debian created at install time? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 06:00:29] <robinbowes> No sign of Volcane | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:00:33] <robinbowes> Volcane: ping | ||
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| [2010/08/12 06:01:04] <threescoops> Judging by twitter, he's enjoying a holiday, or at least is out of the country | ||
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| [2010/08/12 06:17:32] <joe-mac> Volcane on holiday? crazy | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:18:12] <ashp> work... bought me an i7 laptop with a 256G ssd | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:18:18] <ashp> was purchasing drunk?!? | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:18:59] <threescoops> ashp: If they were, I wouldn't bother pointing it out | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:19:20] <ashp> i just started by adding in every optional extra figuring we could bargin to the middle | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:20:20] <joe-mac> rofl | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:20:23] <gebi> lol :) | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:20:58] <gebi> ashp: for such situations there were laptops back in the days with even dual cpu opteron and plenty of ram *g* | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:21:13] <ashp> i actually ordered 8G of ram | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:21:20] <ashp> making this more powerful than my work desktop and home pc combined | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:21:32] <ashp> and way more powerful than 95% of my servers :( | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:21:36] <gebi> hm... nope plenty of ram in this case meant 32GB ;) | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:22:04] <ashp> yikes, that's some laptop | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:22:35] <gebi> wtf? really? all new servers here are ordered with 6x 8GB | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:22:40] @ zz_shenson is now known as shenson | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:22:47] <ashp> we use vm's for almost everything | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:22:53] <ashp> and it's rare i add more than 2G of ram and 30G of disk :/ | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:23:07] <ashp> my new zenoss monitoring box is the most powerful server I have, probably more powerful than all my other servers combined | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:23:09] <ashp> and it's only 24G of ram | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:23:11] <nahamu> I just wish they made laptops with ECC | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:23:28] <nahamu> with 8GB of RAM I'd start worrying about bit errors... | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:23:51] <gebi> the only reason i switched to amd for workstations :/ | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:23:56] <gebi> "workstations" | ||
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| [2010/08/12 06:26:00] <robinbowes> Aha, actually, now that extlookup is in core... | ||
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| [2010/08/12 06:30:37] <robinbowes> uh, looks like the "bug" I want to moan about is fixed in extlookup in 2.6.1 | ||
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| [2010/08/12 06:37:42] <joe-mac> robinbowes: what is the bug? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 06:38:33] <robinbowes> default = args[1] if args[1] | ||
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| [2010/08/12 06:38:43] <robinbowes> ^^ fails if args[1] is false | ||
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| [2010/08/12 06:39:24] <robinbowes> I was going to suggest: default = args[1] unless args[1].nil? | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:39:37] <robinbowes> But the code in puppet now does: default = args[1] | ||
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| [2010/08/12 06:41:25] <robinbowes> Hmm, is the code repo linked from the puppetlabs home page? | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:41:33] <robinbowes> 'cos if it is, I can't bloody find it! | ||
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| [2010/08/12 06:44:04] <joe-mac> robinbowes: github.com/reductivelabs | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:44:27] <robinbowes> Try finding that from the puppetlabs.com! | ||
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| [2010/08/12 06:45:11] <gebi> http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/1/wiki/Development_Developer_Repositories | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:45:45] <robinbowes> Bonkers | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:46:15] <gebi> heh sorry, i've also only found it after i know what to search for ;) | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:47:38] <robinbowes> I was trying to get to this page from the front page: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/ | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:48:46] <robinbowes> But not sure if the repository listed there is same as github | ||
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| [2010/08/12 06:57:17] <mark71> puppeteers, I have a fleet of 50 workstations that i'd like to keep xorg.conf in sync. ie, if I make a change on a workstation I want it to get checked into svn etc. does puppet do this kind of thing? | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:58:25] <nahamu> so you want to manually make a change on one system and have it automagically be propagatd out to the others? | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:58:32] <nahamu> even if you make a mistake? | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:59:01] <nahamu> certainly puppet can make sure that all systems have the correct version in place | ||
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| [2010/08/12 06:59:23] <nahamu> but you might need to rethink the method by which you would make changes to the master copy. | ||
| [2010/08/12 06:59:55] <nahamu> so perhaps you could make a change to the one system, then manually check it in to subversion... | ||
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| [2010/08/12 07:02:11] <joergherzinger> Does anybody know a module for installing firefox addons for all users on debian/ubuntu? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 07:06:28] <tgeorgescu> G'dafternoon all, could somebody please explain why all of a sudden I would get the following errors? http://pastebin.com/AKdaNf8C | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:06:42] <tgeorgescu> It might well have happened before, but have just fixed itself without me knowing. | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:06:59] <mark71> nahamu: no, i'd like a central place to backup all configs for each workstation (or node) | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:07:06] <tgeorgescu> I know i'm a few versions behind with 0.25.0, but any help would be appreciated | ||
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| [2010/08/12 07:07:49] <mark71> nahamu: yes, I was thinking svn | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:08:20] <mark71> but it's be nice to have a system whereby if the wkstn is re-imaged the xorg could be synced back | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:08:36] <mark71> but that could be svn too | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:11:10] <joergherzinger> mark71: Puppet could do much more for you. I for example use it to controle the xorg according to the graphics card in use... | ||
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| [2010/08/12 07:11:50] <mark71> how about for different monitor setups? | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:12:02] <mark71> size/left/right etc | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:12:41] <joergherzinger> Anything could be done if you got the time to code it. Here for example my graphics card setup: http://github.com/joerg/global2000-puppet/blob/master/modules/desktop/manifests/grafikkarte.pp | ||
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| [2010/08/12 07:13:41] <joergherzinger> The variable g2_grafikkarte is a custom puppet fact created by a simple ruby script: http://github.com/joerg/global2000-puppet/blob/master/modules/desktop/plugins/facter/g2_grafikkarte.rb | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:15:33] <mark71> thanks for the hints. some food for thought | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:16:33] <joergherzinger> left, right of course is nothing any software can find out, but you could store that data in some database or csv file and make puppet create the xorg dynamically according to that data. | ||
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| [2010/08/12 07:26:59] <spencert> ok, I am stumped | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:27:11] <spencert> I have read all that I can find on this problem. | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:27:23] <spencert> I am getting zero byte files in 2.6.0 | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:27:41] <spencert> I am running mongrel with apache in front | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:29:15] <diget> spencert: Did you have a look at http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/4319? | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:30:12] * spencert reads | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:31:39] <devicenull> is there any way to make puppet run faster? | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:31:46] <devicenull> it's taking 5 minutes to do a trivial config run | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:32:06] <duritong> devicenull: this can have different kinds of reasons | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:32:20] <duritong> one reasons can be that facter is slow in collecting things | ||
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| [2010/08/12 07:32:40] <spencert> diget: ok, I read that and it's the exact problem I am having, | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:32:41] <duritong> another issue can be slow backend tools such as yum on RHEL | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:32:49] <spencert> yikes I don't want to patch my 500 nodes | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:32:52] <devicenull> it's probably yum then | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:33:03] <spencert> can't use puppet to do it either :-) | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:33:08] <duritong> and also a common issue are recursive file management prio 0.25.5 | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:33:11] <devicenull> would the puppetmaster still running with the default webserver cause slowdowns on it? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 07:33:32] <spencert> where do I apply the second patch? agent or master? | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:33:40] <spencert> the first says to apply on the agent | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:33:42] <duritong> devicenull: depends on the amount of nodes that are hitting your master | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:33:49] <duritong> devicenull: but can be for sure also a reason | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:34:13] <devicenull> well, there's only 3 nodes.. I dont really think that would be an issue tbh | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:34:19] <diget> spencert: the second one goes on the master | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:34:23] <spencert> diget: does 2.6.1 fix this problem? | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:34:31] <spencert> 2.6.1rc2? | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:34:46] <duritong> devicenull: nope as long as they don't connect at the same time | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:34:52] <duritong> spencert: it should | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:34:56] <diget> spencert: not sure about rc1 but rc2 does | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:35:00] <duritong> spencert: can you test | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:35:05] <duritong> spencert: I would take rc2 | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:35:30] <spencert> I would love to test, since I am quite broke right now and patching 500 nodes is not what I want to do | ||
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| [2010/08/12 07:35:43] <duritong> spencert: this seems to be a master issue only | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:35:50] <spencert> will report later today, have a standup in 4 minutes, then a few meetings | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:36:00] <diget> spencert: good luck :) | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:36:05] <spencert> duritong: so I can update the master to 2.6.1rc2 and leave the clients | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:36:06] <spencert> ? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 07:36:19] <duritong> spencert: yep | ||
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| [2010/08/12 07:36:27] <duritong> spencert: but you can also just apply the last patch | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:36:34] <duritong> spencert: afair that was the actual problem | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:36:48] <duritong> spencert: but that's master side only | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:37:34] <spencert> duritong: so update to 2.6.1rc2 on the master, then apply the last patch found in http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/4319? | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:37:40] <spencert> to the master | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:37:52] <duritong> spencert: no that one is included in rc2 | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:37:56] <spencert> oh, | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:38:02] <spencert> ok, then 2.6.1rc2 on the master and test... | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:38:03] <duritong> spencert: but you can also just patch your current master | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:38:26] <duritong> spencert: but I would take the rc2 anyway, it's much faster on the master | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:38:55] <spencert> ok testing 2.6.1rc2 on master to see if zero byte problem goes away | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:39:58] <devicenull> is the 0.26.0 master backwards compatible with 0.25.5. clients? | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:40:02] <devicenull> or do I have to upgrade everything at once | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:40:46] <duritong> devicenull: clients one major version below the master should be able to talk to the master | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:41:03] <duritong> devicenull: so no you don't need to upgrade at once, first upgrade the master, then the clients | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:41:09] <devicenull> cool | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:43:14] <devicenull> hm | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:43:23] <devicenull> apparently rpmforge still has the old version | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:44:14] <duritong> devicenull: I just upgrade yum.glei.ch with rc2 | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:44:31] <duritong> in a few minutes you can crab el5 versions there | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:44:35] <devicenull> cool | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:45:21] <duritong> devicenull: should be up: puppet-2.6.1-0.7.rc2.el5.noarch.rpm | ||
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| [2010/08/12 07:53:04] <devicenull> wow | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:53:15] <devicenull> 300 seconds with 0.25.5 to 50 seconds with 0.26.1 | ||
| [2010/08/12 07:53:20] <devicenull> and that's just upgrading the master | ||
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| [2010/08/12 08:10:48] <joe-mac> is the empty catalogs bug fixed? cause then you might even get runs of a few millseconds! :-P | ||
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| [2010/08/12 08:17:03] <duritong> joe-mac: yes that one is fixed as well in 2.6.1rc2 (I think even in 2.6.1rc1) | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:17:11] <joe-mac> nice | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:17:22] <joe-mac> that and the extlookup caching bug hit me hard | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:17:26] <joe-mac> i'm scared now | ||
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| [2010/08/12 08:19:13] <threescoops> I'm going absolutely spare at the moment. puppetmaster is reporting "Could not find file_metadata for 'modules/motd/motd', yet it's loaded the right module and the file in question is damned well there | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:19:32] <joe-mac> what re the permissions/ | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:19:40] <joe-mac> is this 2.6 or .25? | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:20:33] <threescoops> .25.5, as discussed with dcarley earlier | ||
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| [2010/08/12 08:20:59] <threescoops> root:root, 0755 on all directories, 0644 on all files | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:21:16] <threescoops> Files from the other environment modulepath work fine | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:21:58] <Volcane> threescoops: pastie master config and output from 'tree modules/motd' | ||
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| [2010/08/12 08:22:31] <threescoops> Oh, welcome back Volcane | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:22:40] * Volcane 's not back :P | ||
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| [2010/08/12 08:24:40] <threescoops> http://pastie.org/1088468 | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:25:36] <Volcane> sure the node is correctly in that environment | ||
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| [2010/08/12 08:26:10] <threescoops> What's the easiest way of doing that? | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:26:19] <threescoops> puppetmaster's debug output includes debug: importing '/etc/puppet/modules/development/motd/manifests/init.pp' | ||
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| [2010/08/12 08:26:59] <threescoops> Node classifier gives environment: development | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:27:48] <dcarley> can you pastie the entire puppetmasterd --debug output from fresh startup to the end of the compile? regex any hostnames if you wish. | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:28:13] <threescoops> Yup, one second | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:28:15] <Volcane> threescoops: how do you set environment on the client? with environment=foo in the config? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 08:29:16] <threescoops> Volcane: external node classifier, I assumed that removed the need for anything on the client. If not, I'm going to head-desk :) | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:29:21] <Volcane> thats why | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:29:25] <threescoops> Doh! | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:29:28] <Volcane> its broken in 0.25 | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:29:33] <threescoops> Gah | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:29:46] <Volcane> try it out | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:29:54] <Volcane> set it on the client puppetd --test --environment=development | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:29:56] <Volcane> bet it works then | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:29:57] <threescoops> Right, so I am configuring it correctly, but it's just busted | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:30:30] <threescoops> That it does | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:30:33] * threescoops sighs | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:30:37] <Volcane> quite | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:31:10] <threescoops> Been farting about with this between frequent interruptions since yesterday evening | ||
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| [2010/08/12 08:31:23] <threescoops> Stupid me for not forcing things client side | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:31:39] <threescoops> Ah well, lesson learnt :) | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:31:42] <Volcane> heh | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:31:49] <threescoops> dcarley: thank you for the assistance | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:31:56] <threescoops> Volcane: thank you too. | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:31:57] <spencert> duritong: testing 2.6.1rc2 on the puppetmaster now | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:32:00] <Volcane> np | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:32:22] <spencert> diget: testing new puppetmaster 2.6.1rc2 now | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:32:51] <dcarley> fwiw. glad you solved it | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:33:53] <threescoops> dcarley: likewise. Can get on with something slightly more productive now :) | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:34:26] <threescoops> Anyone able to tell me if/when 2.6 will hit EPEL, or if I need to source packages from elsewhere? | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:34:46] <spencert> and it still fails, with no changes on the client. client still running 2.6.0 | ||
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| [2010/08/12 08:35:00] <spencert> 2db-029-042.d.usys [12/Aug/2010:09:34:07 -0600] "GET /production/file_content//modules/vas/profile.vas.sh HTTP/1.1" 404 55 "-" "-" | ||
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| [2010/08/12 08:39:38] <spencert> threescoops: I got mine from http://tmz.fedorapeople.org/repo/puppet/epel/ | ||
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| [2010/08/12 08:41:28] <devicenull> threescoops, [10:44] <duritong> devicenull: I just upgrade yum.glei.ch with rc2 | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:42:32] <diget> spencert: that would be the second patch from the bug report. maybe you can do some rewrite magic in apache (or what you use) to get rid of the //. | ||
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| [2010/08/12 08:43:17] <spencert> diget: so I saw this same problem on 2.6.0 | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:43:31] <spencert> so is it a client problem requesting the wrong url? | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:44:34] <diget> spencert: yep. As far as i understood ;) | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:44:50] <spencert> so that would mean I need 2.6.1rc2 on the master and the client | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:46:25] <diget> spencert: exactly. But when the client doesn't connect updating is not easy. | ||
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| [2010/08/12 08:46:56] <spencert> agreed, | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:47:02] <spencert> any rewrite masters here? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 08:50:15] <spencert> diget: so 2.6.0 got me into a pretty ugly place, are others having the same problem, or is there another way I can run puppet to get around the problem, e.g. run in webrick? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 08:53:57] <diget> spencert: If i remember correctly these problems are only mongrel/passanger relates so webrick might work. | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:54:13] <diget> spencert: But not sure. | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:54:53] <spencert> ok, it might allow me to work around problem | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:54:54] <spencert> brb | ||
| [2010/08/12 08:56:49] <ashp> Does anyone here use volcane's concat and export the snippits so a central server can build the file out of it? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 09:10:11] * Volcane 's never tried that | ||
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| [2010/08/12 09:19:47] <threescoops> Volcane: do you have a link to that environments + extnodes bug on 0.25.5 to hand? I can't find it for looking | ||
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| [2010/08/12 09:29:05] <Volcane> threescoops: no but there was a long long thread on the dev list i think - mostly nigelk and luke | ||
| [2010/08/12 09:29:32] <threescoops> OK. I've signed up for puppet-users, haven't looked at -dev yet. | ||
| [2010/08/12 09:30:38] <threescoops> I guess I'll guess the only solution is to upgrade or roll out config to each host (and with the network I've inherited, establishing environments is non-trival) | ||
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| [2010/08/12 09:35:29] <Volcane> what ppl do now is just build puppet.conf froma temlate | ||
| [2010/08/12 09:35:41] <Volcane> so you set it in the classifer, build the config, then next run its right | ||
| [2010/08/12 09:35:44] <Volcane> pretty grim | ||
| [2010/08/12 09:43:37] <proprietarysucks> anyone using foreman in here? I'm trying to set it up so that it knows the facts in the browser automatically | ||
| [2010/08/12 09:43:57] <proprietarysucks> according to this page: http://theforeman.org/projects/foreman/wiki/Puppet_Facts I should be running rake puppet:migrate:populate_hosts RAILS_ENV=production | ||
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| [2010/08/12 09:44:13] <proprietarysucks> however I just get a no rakefile found | ||
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| [2010/08/12 09:48:05] <Volcane> there's a file called Rakefile in the tarball | ||
| [2010/08/12 09:48:10] <Volcane> probably in your docroot | ||
| [2010/08/12 09:48:17] <Volcane> well basedir of the vhost or whatever | ||
| [2010/08/12 09:49:47] <proprietarysucks> ahh ok thanks.. it worked when I ran it from /usr/share/foreman | ||
| [2010/08/12 09:51:50] <OMCK> is it possible in erb-templates to iterate through a list of tagged objects ? In the documetation I can only see how to get a list of all tags, but not how to specify a special one | ||
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| [2010/08/12 10:02:38] <madduck> Volcane: so I spent a five hour train ride learning ruby. ;) | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:03:21] <raz> hum, how do i find an old version of a file in the puppet bucket? | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:03:34] <madduck> but I really have not seen the major differences or advantages compared to e.g. python. e.g. there is no difference between "someiterator.each { |i, j| block_using_i+j }", and python's "for i, j in someiterator: block_using_i+j" | ||
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| [2010/08/12 10:04:51] <raz> anyone? | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:04:53] <madduck> Volcane: there are some things ruby does better, like private class functions, attributes, etc., but there are some things where it's just unpredictable or worse than anything I've encountered. For instance, "a string"[0] returns 96! I mean, ffs! | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:05:06] <madduck> raz: it's indexed by hash sum | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:05:46] <raz> ah damn it seems it doesn't bucket crontab before modifying it | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:06:05] <madduck> Volcane: so I have yet to see the advantage, and I tried. Up to this point, all I can say is that it's ridiculous e.g. that Ruby introduces try/rescue and abuses the conventional throw/catch for something different. | ||
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| [2010/08/12 10:06:37] <madduck> pros and cons. as with everything. | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:06:58] <madduck> I really doubt you can write smarter code or more efficiently with it than with e.g. Python | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:07:04] <madduck> </offtopic> | ||
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| [2010/08/12 10:10:04] <joe-mac> madduck: abuses? | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:10:17] <joe-mac> you can choose to either throw/catch or you can choose begin/rescue style | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:10:22] <joe-mac> i'm not sure why it's abuse... | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:10:38] * Volcane 's not sure whats an abuse about it either | ||
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| [2010/08/12 10:10:50] <Volcane> and "a"[0] is just syntax | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:11:19] <Volcane> u can get 1st char out of a string, just in a different way | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:11:27] <Volcane> cos, well, its a different programming language | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:11:31] <Volcane> not sure why its a surprise | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:11:31] <joe-mac> lol | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:11:35] <madduck> joe-mac: abuse convention. throw/catch are conventionally exception keywords | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:11:44] <joe-mac> madduck: and what are they uin ruby? | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:11:47] <barn> Volcane: because it isn't what python, the one true langauge does! | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:11:55] <Volcane> joe-mac: raise/rescue | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:12:03] <madduck> joe-mac: some alternative concept that seems to be just different syntax | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:12:03] <joe-mac> ah yea | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:12:05] <Volcane> joe-mac: same shit though | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:12:15] <joe-mac> no there is the eqyuivalent of throw/catch | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:12:22] <joe-mac> that's what raise/rescue is | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:12:27] <joe-mac> then there's begin rescue | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:12:30] <madduck> Volcane: i could not figure out how to get a single letter from a string. :( | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:12:32] <joe-mac> which is like try rescue i guess in python | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:13:01] <madduck> joe-mac: python also sucks in that it calls it "except", instead of "catch" | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:13:21] <barn> "next week in different people like different things: Soup!" | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:13:28] <barn> "friend or foe?" | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:13:31] <madduck> i guess all I am saying is that I failed to see the advantages or ruby after 5 hours of trying it out, and that I wonder why they had to part with so much of existing syntax. | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:13:53] <Volcane> madduck: "foo"[0,0] | ||
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| [2010/08/12 10:14:20] <proprietarysucks> if I set a variable in site.pp and then I import a module, will that module already know that variable or is there a syntax change or anything? | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:14:29] <Volcane> madduck: wtf is with the existing syntax argument? *its a new language* there wasnt existing syntax, someone had a different idea and thats what they did | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:14:59] <Volcane> madduck: i men seriously, why did debian have to change how any debian work? are you dissing them the same way? | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:15:28] <Volcane> any daemon i mean | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:15:32] <madduck> Volcane: i guess that someone who knows C or Pascal can easily learn Python or Lua or Vala, because they reuse a lot of concepts. Parting from those concepts without a good reason just seems silly; and I have not found the good reason | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:15:56] <madduck> anyway, I am just reporting back that I tried and so far didn't see the advantage. I am not saying there isn't one. | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:16:40] <Volcane> programming languages are largely about style and personal comfort thesedays | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:16:44] <madduck> proprietarysucks: before 2.6: yes, if you defined it before (and I assume you mean "include"); after 2.6: use class parameters | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:16:46] <Volcane> what frameworks are avilable | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:16:54] <Volcane> what community/peer support are avilable etc | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:17:16] <Volcane> you're not likely to find something in ruby/python that the other cant also do | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:17:27] <madduck> anyway, let's leave it at that. i just wanted to get back because you said: | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:17:28] <madduck> 04 10:54 < Volcane> madduck: mostly, since you dont know ruby, you're just talking out of your arse :P | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:17:31] <madduck> ;) | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:17:48] <Volcane> i think the choice between ruby and python is fairly small, but if say you compare perl 5 against ruby/python | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:17:56] <proprietarysucks> I have .25 | ||
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| [2010/08/12 10:18:15] <madduck> perl is a text processor; ruby/python are scripting languages. ;) | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:18:20] <madduck> proprietarysucks: so then yes | ||
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| [2010/08/12 10:19:12] <proprietarysucks> well I'd like to be upgradible | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:19:27] <madduck> you will be | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:19:33] <proprietarysucks> does this other method work in previous versions and is required in new, or does it not yet exist until new | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:20:07] <madduck> the second | ||
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| [2010/08/12 10:20:14] <threescoops> Yikes, language flamewar! I thought they died out with slashdot. | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:20:22] <proprietarysucks> python wins | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:20:55] <Volcane> madduck: and i have an undergrad java/c coder working for me, took to ruby immediatley and loves every moment of it. just as an aside on the learning point. and now i have to go to dinner | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:21:04] <madduck> threescoops: I wasn't intending to start a flamewar | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:21:20] <madduck> anyway, dinner for me too | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:21:26] <proprietarysucks> my friend likes ruby a lot | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:21:44] <proprietarysucks> I like python and perl a lot. but of course python ultimately is 'better' than perl | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:21:54] * threescoops realises he should really have just gone home an hour ago | ||
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| [2010/08/12 10:22:27] <proprietarysucks> I don't have much experience with ruby and have not found a reason to learn it | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:22:27] <threescoops> I'm not even getting into this. I've been using Perl for 10 years, just getting around to Ruby now. | ||
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| [2010/08/12 10:23:12] <proprietarysucks> there's no 'this' I'm just shooting the shit talking about languages. I don't care what other people say or do, they can do whatever they want and I'm sure they can write great programs | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:23:22] <threescoops> ;) | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:23:25] <proprietarysucks> I had a blast writing with qbasic =] | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:24:06] <proprietarysucks> we should rebuild puppet in that language which is all whitespace only | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:24:13] <proprietarysucks> then everyone will be happy | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:24:19] <proprietarysucks> and by happy I mean miserable | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:24:34] <barn> whitespace only is the next logical step for Python anyway | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:24:48] <barn> building on the sucess of meaningful whitespace! | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:25:02] <proprietarysucks> then assembly must be the next step for perl | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:25:20] <proprietarysucks> more emphasis on less english and more symbols | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:25:37] <proprietarysucks> although I do like how easy it is to move from php to perl and vice versa, when needed | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:25:39] <barn> assembly is more readable | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:25:44] <proprietarysucks> and I do love the terseness | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:26:11] <proprietarysucks> and even my current favorite, python, leaves some things to be desired | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:27:08] <proprietarysucks> but language wars are almost as retarded as distro wars | ||
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| [2010/08/12 10:47:16] <imran_> how do I reference the elemnts fo an array? basically I'm passing a string that needs to be 'split' on '/' , which gives me an array in a $variable.... now I need to reference each of the elements (in this case only two elements).... | ||
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| [2010/08/12 10:52:33] <joe-mac> imran_: you can't really | ||
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| [2010/08/12 10:56:21] <imran_> joe: I think I might not need to... just ran into 'regsubst', which will just do the correct splitting I need right off the bat. | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:56:36] <imran_> or something like that. :) | ||
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| [2010/08/12 10:57:51] <nahamu> in the worst case, you could make custom parser functions that return the right chunk of the string: | ||
| [2010/08/12 10:58:05] <nahamu> http://pastie.org/1088808 | ||
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| [2010/08/12 11:00:34] <imran_> nahamu: ooh, thats cool. I'll just do that... | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:00:42] <imran_> thanks | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:01:15] <nahamu> I updated the pastie with how you'd use the functions | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:01:30] <nahamu> there's probably a better way, but that's the hack I came up with a while back | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:03:46] <imran_> yeah, thanks. this might also help me learn about writing my own functions... | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:03:59] <nahamu> cool. good luck! | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:04:59] * nahamu is glad lak didn't get here in time to see that abomination... :-P | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:05:27] <madduck> imran_: inline_template | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:06:34] <nahamu> whoa | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:07:15] <madduck> a normal person would cringe at the performance aspect and the uglyness of things. But puppet+ruby users are used to that. ;) | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:07:19] * madduck hides | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:07:21] <nahamu> madduck, in what version did inline_template debut? | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:07:27] <madduck> i don't know | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:07:39] <spencert> I am really struggling with this zero byte file problem | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:07:52] <nahamu> If I had known about that a while back, I'd probably have used it... imran_, take note. | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:08:03] <imran_> madduck: actually I was trying to do inline_template. Wasn't sure how to use it. | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:08:13] <spencert> struggling to craft a rewrite rule in apache in front of mongrel to change the file_content//(.*) to file_content/$1 | ||
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| [2010/08/12 11:08:47] <madduck> imran_: param => inline_template("<%= my_array[1] %>"), | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:08:59] <imran_> i think I had done something like "$blah = split($name , "/) $left = inline_template ("<% $blah.split("/")[0]")" but it didn't work. | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:09:13] <spencert> will look later, going to lunch | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:10:13] <nahamu> imran_ you may have been screwed by the double quotes that were't inside double quotes... | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:10:29] <imran_> madduck: hmm, i should have split outside of the inline_template... maybe that was my problem... actually I'm going to try that also. | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:10:35] <nahamu> madduck, like the foot of http://pastie.org/1088808 ? | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:10:43] <dcarley> imran_: do away with the first split(). just <%= name.split("/")[0] %> | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:11:19] <imran_> nahamu: the real one actually had single quotes inside... just typing the above off the top of my head. problem was that the $left string actually had the 'blah.split('/')' etc., instead of it interpolated | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:12:14] <nahamu> as long as it's working for you now... | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:12:35] <imran_> actually, hehe, I dind't have that first split either. let me try the inline template way of it. | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:13:11] <dcarley> (and you don't need the dollar sign to reference a variable inside of ruby) | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:13:57] <nahamu> dcarley, I think not only is it not needed, but I seem to recall it breaking things for me... | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:14:44] <dcarley> by not needed - i mean it's not valid syntax ;) | ||
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| [2010/08/12 11:24:51] <imran_> actually I didn't have the $ in there either. anyway, I put the split back the way I had it, and getting the same problem: $section = inline_template("<%= name.split('/')[0] ") but $section has ' name.split('/')[0] ' verbatim | ||
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| [2010/08/12 11:26:17] <dcarley> you're missing a closing %> | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:26:37] <imran_> doh. hehe. i knew it would be something silly. thanks | ||
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| [2010/08/12 11:28:58] <geekatcmu> So, I've written a custom function for Puppet (0.25.5). AFAICT it runs just fine, BUT it's return value is being coerced into a string, when it's really a list. | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:29:04] <geekatcmu> I want it to be a list. | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:29:09] <geekatcmu> Lists are happy, fun things! | ||
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| [2010/08/12 11:30:33] <pheezy> got a bit of an issue, we have one RHEL5 box that requires ruby 1.8.7, which is currently installed in /usr/local/bin, including gem etc, however puppet doesn't seem to run anymore | ||
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| [2010/08/12 11:30:57] <geekatcmu> http://pastie.org/1088878 would be the paste for it. | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:31:02] <geekatcmu> If anyone cares. | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:31:11] <pheezy> http://www.pastie.org/1088880 | ||
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| [2010/08/12 11:31:22] <dcarley> geekatcmu: facts are always strings. you have to join/split it on demand unfortunately. | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:31:27] <geekatcmu> Did I miss a part of the docs where custom functions can return only strings? | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:31:46] <geekatcmu> dcarley: I did the apprpriate split. | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:31:52] <dcarley> eh, sorry. i misread. not a fact. | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:31:59] <geekatcmu> And this is NOT for facts. Parser function. | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:32:05] <geekatcmu> heh | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:32:20] * geekatcmu is penalized 5 points for crosstalk | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:33:49] <dcarley> i /believe/ the same may still apply though. | ||
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| [2010/08/12 11:35:19] <ashp> hmm I wonder if I can get a template to read storeconfigs | ||
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| [2010/08/12 11:35:27] <ohadlevy> ashp: why not? :) | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:35:29] <ashp> that would be easier than trying to have each node make a storeconfig snippit and export it somehow | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:35:33] <ashp> because i'm not smart enough to do that | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:35:47] <ohadlevy> ashp: what are you trying to do? | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:35:58] <dcarley> scratch that; not true. | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:36:07] <geekatcmu> Oh. | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:36:11] <geekatcmu> snap | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:36:54] <geekatcmu> It would seem that a *previous* run created an entry with spaces in it, which is somehow *not* being overwritten in the db (I'm using storeconfigs), so this old crufty thing is causing the problem. | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:37:10] <nahamu> stupid crufty things... | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:37:23] <imran_> ok, one problem I've been having with puppet... (2.6.0, and I think I had the same with 0.25) was that I get "Too many connections" sent to clients, and on the server side, I see maybe 100 or 140 mysql connections | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:37:28] <geekatcmu> Actually, it wasn't even that. | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:37:35] <ohadlevy> geekatcmu: functions can returns strings and arrays (and hashes in 2.6) | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:37:49] <geekatcmu> I had another host running in the development environment and it hadn't run the new function yet, so it had the old garbage in it. | ||
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| [2010/08/12 11:37:54] <geekatcmu> ohadlevy: thanks. | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:38:00] <ohadlevy> imran_: make sure you have a recent mysql-gem and recent activerecord gem | ||
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| [2010/08/12 11:40:42] <imran_> this is on a centos 5.5; i'm using epel rpms I think: activerecord 2.1.1-2 and ruby-mysql is 2.7.3-1 | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:40:51] <imran_> which are probably not the latest. | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:42:21] <ohadlevy> imran_: upgrade to activerecord 2.2+ | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:42:42] <ohadlevy> maybe you can fetch the fedora rpms | ||
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| [2010/08/12 11:47:32] <ashp> ohadlevy: oh, I'm trying to build a file for zenoss to process | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:47:39] <ashp> that will automatically add all nodes to monitoring | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:47:59] <ashp> i don't want to get fancy so it basically just uses a header and shoves all other hosts in as ip's | ||
| [2010/08/12 11:48:11] <ashp> like I do with /etc/hosts but there's a native host type for that :) | ||
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| [2010/08/12 12:01:36] <beata_> anyone know of an Iptables type that will work with 2.6 ? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 12:11:53] <imran_> ok, not having luck with fedora rpms. Whats the recommended version of activerecord/mysql gem etc. for centos/rhel anyway? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 12:21:13] <joe-mac> guys, the empty catalog bug- did that appear in 2.6, or was that present beforehand>? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 12:22:30] <dcarley> beata_: not currently. ken barber hinted that he might find time to do the work though. | ||
| [2010/08/12 12:23:12] <dcarley> joe-mac: appeared in 2.6 | ||
| [2010/08/12 12:23:24] <beata_> yea im using his code now | ||
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| [2010/08/12 12:24:13] <joe-mac> weird, looks like a buddy of mine testing out .25.5 might be seeing it | ||
| [2010/08/12 12:24:17] <beata_> thats good to know though | ||
| [2010/08/12 12:24:18] <joe-mac> troubleshooting with him now | ||
| [2010/08/12 12:26:57] <dcarley> freaky deaky | ||
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| [2010/08/12 12:34:16] <joe-mac> nah he's actually having some weird issue where his master isn't seeing the environments, so a blank site.pp was somehow being used. figured there would be more errors. | ||
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| [2010/08/12 12:37:28] <joe-mac> it was rhel's sysconfig... pointing at the site.pp | ||
| [2010/08/12 12:38:20] <bhearsum> i've got a puppet master/client in a strange situation. this machine, "bm-xserve06" is successfully syncing from the master -- there's even output in the master's logs about compiling the catalog for it -- yet there is no key for this machine (that i can find) on the master | ||
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| [2010/08/12 12:38:34] <bhearsum> i don't understand what's going on here, anybody able to provide a pointer for debugging? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 12:40:04] <joe-mac> who's using SLES? how do you tell what version you're on without lsb? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 12:41:42] <dcarley> joe-mac: facter claims that /etc/SuSE-release should contain what you need. | ||
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| [2010/08/12 12:45:37] <miah> it should | ||
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| [2010/08/12 12:45:50] <miah> but suse changes their layout of /etc/suserelease depending on opensuse, suse, sles, etccccccccc | ||
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| [2010/08/12 12:49:54] <joe-mac> miah: thanks | ||
| [2010/08/12 12:49:59] <joe-mac> working on an appliance so a lot of the shit is missing | ||
| [2010/08/12 12:50:04] <joe-mac> trying to figure how to retrofit some stuff | ||
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| [2010/08/12 13:05:21] <imran_> hmm , any repos that have the latest (or fairly latest version ) of ruby gems for centos/rhel? | ||
| [2010/08/12 13:07:34] <spencert> anyone else experiencing problems with zero byte files being deploy be puppet 2.6.0? | ||
| [2010/08/12 13:07:40] <spencert> I cannot seem to fix this | ||
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| [2010/08/12 13:15:43] <devicenull> imran: yum.glei.ch | ||
| [2010/08/12 13:15:55] <devicenull> oh oops you wanted ruby | ||
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| [2010/08/12 13:25:22] <runrig> 2.6 is not even in epel-testing yet? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 13:37:25] <OMCK> any way to implement some kind of global variable (or object) in puppet, which can be changed by different classes during the runtime (e.g. $a = $a + 1) ? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 13:48:00] <tmz> runrig: No. Until we're convinced that we're going to push it to epel, it's not in epel-testing either. | ||
| [2010/08/12 13:48:31] <tmz> Once it gets into -testing, it's a real pain to roll out any quick patches should something need fixed in the stable repo for 0.25.5. | ||
| [2010/08/12 13:49:08] <tmz> For now, I'd encourage you to use my repo at http://tmz.fedorapeople.org/repo/puppet/ -- 2.6.1-rc2 is there now. | ||
| [2010/08/12 13:49:44] <runrig> k thx | ||
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| [2010/08/12 13:50:28] <beata_> why does puppet agent now have to have puppet user created? dosent it all run as root? in 2.6 | ||
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| [2010/08/12 13:51:58] <beata_> looks like that was fixed in rc2 perhaps? | ||
| [2010/08/12 13:52:01] <beata_> nm | ||
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| [2010/08/12 13:53:21] <hggh> any amazon EC2 guy around. is there an way to have an bigger root partition than 10-15GB? - all space on / ? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 13:56:36] <rmiller4pi8> hggh: might be the sort of question to take to ##infra-talk | ||
| [2010/08/12 13:59:38] <rmiller4pi8> anyone have any ideas on troubleshooting storeconfigs? i have it working on one puppetmaster, running 0.25.4-1 under passenger, but another one with the same puppet.conf, version 0.25.5-1 running on webrick doesn't attempt to create the tables on startup or even log anything, despite that rails 2.2.2 is present. started it with -d and doesn't look like it's ever trying to talk to the db | ||
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| [2010/08/12 14:12:56] <beata_> hmm my sshkey exported resource dosent appear to be working in 2.6 | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:13:29] <beata_> hmm nevermind i am blind | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:13:58] <beata_> i need to go home | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:14:37] <spencert> tmz: you there? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 14:15:22] <Cope> hello | ||
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| [2010/08/12 14:20:30] <tmz> spencert: Yeah, mostly. | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:21:20] <spencert> when I rebuild the src rpm it doesn't build as noarch | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:21:24] <Kiloman> OK so question | ||
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| [2010/08/12 14:21:30] <spencert> %if 0%{?fedora} || 0%{?rhel} >= 5 | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:21:35] <spencert> what triggers rhel? | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:21:47] <Kiloman> can I use "value1,value2 => foo" in selectors? | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:22:00] <Kiloman> or do I have to use REs to match multiple values | ||
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| [2010/08/12 14:22:36] <Kiloman> It's looking like I have to use a re but it would be nice if selectors worked like case statements... | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:22:47] <tmz> spencert: On rhel/centos systems, that comes from the buildsystem. Let me find a link to buildsys-macros... (On fedora it's now included in the fedora-release package.) | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:23:00] <spencert> hmm, I am on rhel5.3 | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:23:13] <spencert> doesn't trigger, maybe I am missing a rpm package | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:23:34] <Cope> havving an annoying issue with 2.6.0 - /etc/init.d/puppetmaster start errors | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:24:36] <tmz> spencert: http://buildsys.fedoraproject.org/buildgroups/rhel5/x86_64/buildsys-macros-5-5.el5.noarch.rpm -- or just use --define 'rhel 5' --define 'dist .el5' --define 'el5 1' | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:25:31] <tmz> http://pastie.org/1089187 | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:26:22] <spencert> tmz: thankz | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:26:28] <spencert> err thanks | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:27:18] <tmz> spencert: No problem. Any particular reason you need to rebuild the packages? (as in, something we could fix in the stock versions?) | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:27:20] <spencert> tmz: that did the trick | ||
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| [2010/08/12 14:27:46] <spencert> I have a habit that I rebuild all srpms from the net on my own internal host then deploy those | ||
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| [2010/08/12 14:28:00] <spencert> probably not necessary, but nevertheless | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:28:04] <Kiloman> all packages? like including ones from upstream? | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:28:10] <Kiloman> or just ones from random internet repos? | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:28:15] <spencert> random internet repos | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:28:27] <Kiloman> not too paranoid.. I do the same ;) | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:28:35] <tmz> spencert: Nothing wrong with that. I usually do that too. | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:29:33] <beelzebob> I've got a best practice question... | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:29:35] <tmz> At some point, I need to work on a rake task to make building a package from a puppet git clone or tarball easier. | ||
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| [2010/08/12 14:30:00] <beelzebob> when you have different configs (say multiple configs for postgres) that are used in different modules... | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:30:13] <beelzebob> do you store those configs with postgres, or with the module that is using it? | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:30:41] <beelzebob> I can see how it would be helpful to have all postgres configs stored in one place (with the postgres module) | ||
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| [2010/08/12 14:31:10] <beelzebob> but it seems that violates some principle I can't put my finger on | ||
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| [2010/08/12 14:47:33] <geekatcmu> If you are interested in doing a little bit better ssh_known_hosts integration/generation, look at these: http://paste.org/pastebin/view/21384 | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:47:33] <geekatcmu> http://paste.org/pastebin/view/21385 | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:47:33] <geekatcmu> http://paste.org/pastebin/view/21386 | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:48:15] @ dcarley_ is now known as dcarley | ||
| [2010/08/12 14:48:37] <geekatcmu> That's a provider that puts all the IP addresses in a single array for facter, a parser that will return a list of potential hostnames/aliases, and a manifest excerpt that shows usage. | ||
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| [2010/08/12 15:03:01] <francispereira> i keep getting Could not request certificate: Retrieved certificate does not match private key; please remove certificate from server and regenerate it with the current key on my client host. I have deleted the client's key from the server. on the client puppetca --list --all does not show any keys | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:03:12] <francispereira> someone please Help ! | ||
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| [2010/08/12 15:05:14] <kjetilho> francispereira: you seem to have mixed up server and client | ||
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| [2010/08/12 15:05:42] <kjetilho> remove it from the client with rm, and use puppetca --clean on puppetmaster | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:06:07] <francispereira> kjetilho, where is the file on the client ? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 15:06:17] <francispereira> i used puppetca to remove it from the server | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:06:32] <kjetilho> /var/lib/puppet/ssl/*/hostname.* | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:06:34] <francispereira> /var/lib/puppet/ssl ? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 15:08:13] <francispereira> kjetilho, | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:08:17] <francispereira> Thank you very much | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:08:25] <francispereira> i was struggling with this for over an house | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:08:42] <francispereira> i can see in my master's log, a new request to sign the client | ||
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| [2010/08/12 15:10:30] <eventi> I can't find the FM for adding a particular package from a different ubuntu release | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:11:00] <eventi> or I'm not googling it right - I'm at karmic and I need a package from lenny | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:11:33] <barn> I don't think you can | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:11:37] <barn> apt-pinning is what you want | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:12:05] <barn> (unless it's changed in 2.6) | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:12:30] <eventi> no - I thought I'd done it before | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:13:04] <barn> ah, I dunno then (: | ||
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| [2010/08/12 15:24:14] <francispereira> kjetilho, what does err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: certificate verify failed | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:24:14] <francispereira> mean | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:24:43] <francispereira> after killing puppetmasterd and restarting it, i get the above message on the client | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:24:46] <kjetilho> I think it means your client thinks it has a signed certificate | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:24:58] <kjetilho> but it doesn't match what the server thinks | ||
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| [2010/08/12 15:25:32] <kjetilho> it is very important to remove on client and puppetca --clean on the master at the same time | ||
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| [2010/08/12 15:25:47] <kjetilho> then request a new certificate (by running puppetd -t) | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:26:35] <francispereira> do i have to turn of puppetmasterd when i am doing a puppetca --clean <host name >on the master | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:26:40] <francispereira> ? | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:27:11] <mackn> stop puppetd on client, remove ssl dir, run puppetca --clean on master restart puppetd | ||
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| [2010/08/12 15:27:49] <francispereira> let me give it a shot | ||
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| [2010/08/12 15:32:35] <francispereira> I said puppetd --server puppet --waitforcert 100. signed the client's cert on the master | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:33:41] <francispereira> puppetd is still running on the client, doing nothing | ||
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| [2010/08/12 15:34:07] <francispereira> is there a way to get it to probe for the cert again ? should i just kill puppetd ? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 15:38:16] <francispereira> kjetilho, i did exactly what you said and now i get warning: peer certificate won't be verified in this SSL session | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:38:17] <francispereira> info: Caching certificate for appserver4.infomedia18.in | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:38:17] <francispereira> err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: certificate verify failed | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:38:17] <francispereira> warning: Not using cache on failed catalog | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:38:17] <francispereira> err: Could not retrieve catalog; skipping run | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:38:45] <francispereira> getting a client to talk to the server is turning into t nightmare | ||
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| [2010/08/12 15:40:29] <mackn> did you delete the ssl dir on the client | ||
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| [2010/08/12 15:50:17] <francispereira> mackn, i only deleted ssl/*/hostname* | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:50:30] <francispereira> i will try deleting the whole direcootry | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:50:34] <francispereira> directory | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:52:50] <francispereira> mackn, i have turned off puppetd on the client, deleted /var/lib/puppet/ssl, puppetca --clean hostname on the master | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:53:14] <francispereira> is puppetd --server puppet --waitforcert 20 --test the right thing to do on the client now | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:53:15] <francispereira> ? | ||
| [2010/08/12 15:54:35] <francispereira> Finally, Works ! | ||
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| [2010/08/12 16:05:58] <joe-mac> hehe, somewhere in the docs it should really recommend setting certname = puppet on the master and server = puppet on the nodes. | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:06:08] <joe-mac> maybe it does? haven't reviewed any first time setups in a whiel | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:06:26] <propriet1rysucks> what is the point of doing that? | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:06:34] <propriet1rysucks> I have mine set to sv-puppetmaster | ||
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| [2010/08/12 16:07:25] <joe-mac> the point is flexibility. you can have multiple masters that way with the same cert and your nodes can talk to any of them, you won't deal with the usual hostname does not match cert issue. | ||
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| [2010/08/12 16:07:42] <joe-mac> first time users are confused by the fact that it's not just ssl for encryption, it's for authorization | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:08:00] <joe-mac> most peopel are accustomed to passwords for authentication i would say | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:08:54] <joe-mac> if you have used ssl for auth before in other applications, like splunk, syslog, then you'll realize, however a lot of people aren't dealing with these kinds of apps it seems | ||
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| [2010/08/12 16:15:16] <proprietarysucks> how many nodes do you have that you are using multiple heads | ||
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| [2010/08/12 16:24:31] <imran_> I have an augeas section that modifies /etc/my.cnf. So anyway, right now the augeas script will error when a my.cnf doesn't exist. Is there a way for augeas to create the file if it doesn't exist? I can't require a package, since two different packages, that conflict, can provide that (namely 'mysql' and 'Percona-Server-server') | ||
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| [2010/08/12 16:29:34] <francispereira> i get a 404 when I source puppet:///modules/sudo/files/sshd. On the file system the file is at /etc/puppet/manifests/modules/sudo/files/ssh and I have configured the defined in fileserver.conf "path /etc/puppet/manifests/" what am I doing wrong | ||
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| [2010/08/12 16:31:48] <Djelibeybi> francispereira: remove the "files" from puppet://modules/sudo/files/sshd | ||
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| [2010/08/12 16:32:02] <Djelibeybi> francispereira: it should just be "puppet:///modules/sudo/sshd" | ||
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| [2010/08/12 16:33:05] <francispereira> oh | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:33:14] <genericpenguin> Hi, just wondering if someone might be able to help me with an issue with puppet (2.6.0) | ||
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| [2010/08/12 16:36:54] <francispereira> Djelibeybi, the httpd log says appserver4 - - [13/Aug/2010:05:05:02 IST] "GET /production/file_metadata/modules/sudo/files/sudoers HTTP/1.1" 404 | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:37:16] <francispereira> when is it looking for /production/file_metadata | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:37:18] <francispereira> ? | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:37:22] <Djelibeybi> francispereira: your file needs to be in /etc/puppet/modules/sudo/files/sudoers | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:37:33] <barn> Djelibeybi: morning squire! | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:37:33] <Djelibeybi> francispereira: that's just the REST automagic path for fileserving. | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:37:37] <Djelibeybi> barn: aloha! | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:37:45] <barn> how the pickle are you? | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:38:03] <Djelibeybi> barn: I'm actually peachy keen, thanks for asking. | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:39:14] <genericpenguin> Hello, is anyone else having issues with 2.6.0 auth.conf file + passenger? | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:40:41] <francispereira> Djelibeybi, my sudoers file is in /etc/puppet/manifests/modules/sudo/files/sudoers and i defined in puppet.conf on the master that modulepath = /etc/puppet/manifests/modules | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:41:06] <Djelibeybi> francispereira: can your puppetmaster read that file? | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:41:19] <francispereira> let me check | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:41:21] <Djelibeybi> francispereira: check permissions on the file and make sure the puppet user can read it | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:42:38] <francispereira> Djelibeybi, would it be a good idea to chmod -r puppet:puppet /etc/puppet ? | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:43:03] <Djelibeybi> francispereira: possibly a chown -R puppet:puppet /etc/puppet :) | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:43:49] <francispereira> oh, yes. its been a long night | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:43:53] <francispereira> :) | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:44:01] <francispereira> I need some more tea | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:45:12] <genericpenguin> Ping. Just wondering if anyone can see this. :) | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:45:28] <francispereira> Djelibeybi, puppet now owns everything. still getting GET /production/file_metadata/modules/sudo/files/sudoers HTTP/1.1" 404 | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:46:09] <francispereira> i think it would be worth mentioning that i had set my environment = porduction before. would this have something to do with this | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:46:15] <Djelibeybi> francispereira: I suspect there's something in fileserver.conf that needs to be changed considering you've changed the default modulepath from /etc/puppet/modules to /etc/puppet/manifest/modules | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:46:33] <Djelibeybi> francispereira: possibly, though the production environment is the default environment as well | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:47:04] <francispereira> that should not be a problem | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:47:38] <Djelibeybi> Yeah, I'm not sure then. | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:47:57] <Djelibeybi> Maybe run your puppetmaster in the foreground (--no-daemonize --debug --verbose) to see if you can spot anything | ||
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| [2010/08/12 16:48:52] <francispereira> Djelibeybi, my file is at /etc/puppet/manifests/modules/sudo/files/sudoers and my filserver.conf looks something like this http://pastebin.com/9cDTBPkW | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:49:07] <francispereira> am I missing something | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:49:26] <Djelibeybi> francispereira: which version of Puppet? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 16:50:11] <francispereira> 0.25.5 | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:50:27] <genericpenguin> Hello? | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:50:49] <carlasouza> hello | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:51:01] <francispereira> in my init.pp i am saying source => puppet:///modules/sudo/files/sudoers | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:51:05] <Djelibeybi> genericpenguin: hello | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:51:15] <Djelibeybi> francispereira: take out the "files" | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:51:22] <Djelibeybi> francispereira: it should be puppet:///modules/sudo/sudoers | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:51:46] <genericpenguin> I was wondering if anyone has had any issues with the puppet 2.6.0 auth.conf file + passenger? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 16:53:28] <geekatcmu> joe-mac: that only works if you *also* copy your puppet master certificate around to all of the masters. | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:53:45] <francispereira> Djelibeybi, !! ITS SERVING !!! | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:53:50] <Djelibeybi> francispereira: huzzah! | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:53:55] <francispereira> thank you | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:53:57] <geekatcmu> Serves you right! | ||
| [2010/08/12 16:53:59] <Djelibeybi> francispereira: you're welcome | ||
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| [2010/08/12 17:01:21] <joe-mac> geekatcmu: right | ||
| [2010/08/12 17:01:27] <joe-mac> kinda of implied i guess | ||
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| [2010/08/12 17:01:44] <joe-mac> you work at cmu still? in cs/ee? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 17:16:33] <PaulWay[w]> Question: can I override a define? http://fpaste.org/ytFm/ | ||
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| [2010/08/12 17:16:53] <PaulWay[w]> I'm probably not using the right words there. | ||
| [2010/08/12 17:17:58] <PaulWay[w]> I have one define to pick up files in a standard way, and I want a derived class to get that file from a different source (set in the define). | ||
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| [2010/08/12 17:35:32] <imran_> how do I get augeas to create a section and/or file if it doesn't exist? I had thought that it would automatically add a section etc. if you reference it and it doesn't exist? e.g. /etc/my.cnf, if I reference [client] section and if it doesn't exist, it creates and puts a new item in there? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 18:12:26] <PaulWay[w]> Question: can I override a define? http://fpaste.org/ytFm/ | ||
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| [2010/08/12 18:15:32] <PaulWay[w]> http://fpaste.org/9n4w/ now | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:18:51] <timdau> Is "pulling strings with puppet" still a good book to read to learn about puppet? | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:20:25] <timdau> As in, is it based on a relatively recent version of puppet? | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:20:33] <hMz> its not bad ... just not as verbatum as you'd like | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:21:35] <timdau> jamesturnbull: Is your book the best or is there better? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 18:22:30] <timdau> Its 18 months old, so I don't know how much will have changed. | ||
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| [2010/08/12 18:23:07] <hMz> i believe it was written for 0.24.x | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:23:14] <hMz> but i dont have my copy with me to double check that | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:23:18] <hMz> so you're a whole major version behind | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:23:22] <hMz> technically 2 | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:23:30] <hMz> if you go for the latest greatest at this point | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:23:40] <hMz> so its not bad if your starting out, just dont stick to it like the bible | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:23:46] <hMz> you'll be referencing more current docs | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:23:52] <timdau> yeah, I'm using the gem from gemcutter(or whatever) | ||
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| [2010/08/12 18:24:47] <proprietarysucks> any way to completely disable all certificate checking forever? | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:25:32] <proprietarysucks> and anyone know what this means: Error 400 on SERVER: undefined method `fact_merge' for nil:NilClass | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:27:08] @ Quit: bodepd: Quit: bodepd | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:28:34] <timdau> The book is $20, so I guess I'll buy it anyway and support someone who is working with opensource.... | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:29:11] <hMz> its worth having | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:29:29] <hMz> i thumb it from time to time just to look at the way somethigns are done | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:29:33] <hMz> but a lot of docs are online | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:29:53] <timdau> I haven't found good Getting Started type docs. | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:30:04] <hMz> that means so many things to so many people | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:30:24] <timdau> I've setup a couple virtual machines, I have followed the Getting Started doc from the webpage. | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:30:34] <hMz> but the book has some good simple stuff | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:30:39] <timdau> modified them a little | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:30:54] <timdau> (I've been working with cfengine for ... 4 years?) | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:31:07] <proprietarysucks> I am unable to add new clients, they all get this same error undefined method `fact_merge' for nil:NilClass | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:31:25] <timdau> So I understand some of the concepts.. but its kind of a shift in thinking. | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:33:02] <hMz> timdau: i did cfengine for a long time ... it's glad to be back in sanityvile. | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:33:32] <hMz> prop: i dont know about that error but i'd start undoing whatever it is you last did before this started | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:33:53] <timdau> I've got about 5k lines of cfengine cfg to be replaced. | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:34:00] <hMz> ouch | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:34:07] <hMz> at least you have something to start with | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:34:17] <hMz> i had the joys of pioneering the way from no cf mgmt system | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:34:25] <timdau> Its not as bad as it sounds because its for 5 different clients and there is a lot of duplication. | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:34:48] <timdau> Yeah, I did that but decided on cfengine because I didn't like using ruby. | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:35:21] <timdau> I still don't like the idea, but cfengine seems kind of dead. | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:35:38] <TomWork> what is the most updated modules repositories | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:35:46] <TomWork> what is the most updated modules repository ? | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:40:20] <joe-mac> TomWork: probably something that nobody knows about | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:40:31] <joe-mac> if you google puppet modules repo i bet a lot come up that aren't linked to from the site | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:40:42] <joe-mac> i found some for some university that were pretty extensive and updated like daily or something | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:41:03] <joe-mac> proprietarysucks: | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:41:06] <joe-mac> restart your master | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:41:08] <TomWork> I found too many gitweb interface which seem to have the same stuff but not exacly | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:41:09] <joe-mac> you use stored configs? | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:41:36] <joe-mac> TomWork: even if you get something really updated, ou will likely need to change it around either due to style conflicts or infrastructure conflicts | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:41:42] <TomWork> http://git.puppet.immerda.ch/ : found that one from the main website | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:42:07] <joe-mac> yea that one is pretty wewll known i think | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:42:32] <TomWork> I'm trying to do NOT redo the work but the community seems so messy that I will probably redo it | ||
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| [2010/08/12 18:42:45] <proprietarysucks> can I combine a content, like content => "something" + " something else", ? | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:43:02] <joe-mac> proprietarysucks: with inline_template() you probably can. or just use a template. | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:43:10] <joe-mac> TomWork: well, i'm not so sure i agree with that | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:43:26] <TomWork> and of course I'm a beginner so just to use the ntp module I need common (I think) and I doesn't seem to be imported | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:43:32] <TomWork> anyway I'm learning :) | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:43:42] <TomWork> for 2.6.0 is | ||
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| [2010/08/12 18:43:56] <TomWork> [modules] | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:43:57] <TomWork> allow * | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:43:58] <joe-mac> right, and the canned modules will help you learn, but i don't really htink many people literally drop them in... | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:44:23] <TomWork> enough to load the modules in the fileserver ? | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:44:45] <TomWork> my modulepath = /etc/puppet/modules | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:45:05] <joe-mac> right and under modules/ntp you have {files,manifests,templates}? | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:45:10] <TomWork> yep | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:46:57] <joe-mac> ok under manifests you have an init.pp? care to pastie it? and pastie the node definition, likely in something like nodes.pp or site.pp under your manifest directory? | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:47:02] <joe-mac> not manifest as in the module's manifests | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:47:06] <joe-mac> the environment's manifests | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:47:37] <TomWork> http://pastebin.ca/1916130 | ||
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| [2010/08/12 18:52:36] <joe-mac> you don't need the modules.pp, but it shouldn't cause a problem i think. try removing that and the import | ||
| [2010/08/12 18:52:46] <joe-mac> run 'puppetd -dt' and pastie the output | ||
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| [2010/08/12 19:03:20] <TomWork> why do I not need modules.pp (again some many different docos on the net :) | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:03:32] <joe-mac> you don't bened to specifically import modules | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:03:35] <TomWork> in don't have any init.pp in manifest/ | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:03:36] <joe-mac> since like .24 something | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:03:56] <joe-mac> i don't even know if you need init.pp anymore... but what do you have in there? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 19:04:48] <TomWork> nothing | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:04:58] <TomWork> I don't have this file | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:05:08] <TomWork> in manifests/ I have site.pp and modules.pp | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:05:40] <TomWork> puppetd -dt <---- on the puppetmaster or the client ? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 19:06:57] <carlasouza> TomWork: on the client | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:10:48] <TomWork> http://pastebin.ca/1916138 | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:10:49] <TomWork> carlasouza: ta | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:11:58] <carlasouza> TomWork: there is no errors in this paste :) | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:13:00] <TomWork> it doesn't seem to load the modules ntp and common from | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:13:57] <carlasouza> i see.. i don't know if 2.6 is the same as 0.25 but i think u have to put pluginsync=true | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:14:08] <carlasouza> in the file puppet.conf | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:14:09] <TomWork> ah | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:14:17] <TomWork> in [agent] ? | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:14:20] <carlasouza> at client side | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:14:34] <carlasouza> [main] i think | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:15:15] <joe-mac> TomWork: is this 2.6.0? | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:15:33] <TomWork> yep | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:15:45] <TomWork> it definitely copy the files somewhere | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:15:48] <TomWork> copied | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:16:12] <joe-mac> there is a bug with empty catalogs you could be having | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:16:41] <joe-mac> init.pp was required in .24, some .25 i think, maybe now but i am not so sure. you could also try putting init.pp under the module and putting "import *" in it | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:16:55] <joe-mac> module/ntp/manifests would have init.pp and so would module/common/manifests | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:17:09] <joe-mac> afaik the import * need has been deprecated, but you could try it | ||
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| [2010/08/12 19:19:39] <joe-mac> proprietarysucks: you still here? | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:21:41] <joe-mac> if you're getting this error, and restarting your master fixes it, and for bonus points you're using stored configs, could you thumbs up this bug http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/3234 | ||
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| [2010/08/12 19:32:02] <jamesturnbull> proprietarysucks: did oyu check the ticket DB for that error? | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:32:08] <jamesturnbull> timdau: well it's the ONLY book :) | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:32:09] <TomWork> /etc/puppet/modules/common/manifests/init.pp exists | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:41:12] <TomWork> http://pastebin.ca/1916147 : so I have the parser library from the common module but I still don't have the ntp module so pluginsync=true definetely has done something | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:41:31] <TomWork> but it's not enough :) | ||
| [2010/08/12 19:41:46] <TomWork> maybe I shouldn't use module I will use classes, it seems easier :) | ||
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| [2010/08/12 20:43:38] <windowsrefund> hello | ||
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| [2010/08/12 20:50:36] <windowsrefund> greetings Luke | ||
| [2010/08/12 20:50:41] <lak> hullo | ||
| [2010/08/12 20:51:01] <windowsrefund> puppet is good | ||
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| [2010/08/12 21:59:17] <blahdeblah> Hi all. I'm seeing what appears to be http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/3084, which is a duplicate of http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/2770, which was supposed to be fixed in 0.25.2, but i'm on 0.25.5 (from EPEL): http://puppet.pastebin.com/g1fB1W1R | ||
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| [2010/08/12 21:59:57] <blahdeblah> Any thoughts on how to fix this? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 22:09:41] <blahdeblah> I seem to remember that i found this when i upgraded my own puppet installation on Debian, and the answer was to add explicit command parameters on all of my execs - is there any better answer than this? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 22:16:38] <blahdeblah> Hmmm... I've just updated every one of my Execs and the node still can't retrieve my catalog. | ||
| [2010/08/12 22:16:53] <blahdeblah> Anyone here at all? My puppet install is dead in the water now... | ||
| [2010/08/12 22:22:20] <TomWork> can someone give me a page talking about the backup filebucket ? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 22:37:21] <blahdeblah> TomWork: Do you mean a page talking about how to set it up? | ||
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| [2010/08/12 22:38:44] <TomWork> yep | ||
| [2010/08/12 22:38:49] <blahdeblah> TomWork: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Puppet_Best_Practice has a basic recommendation for setting a default bucket | ||
| [2010/08/12 22:38:58] <TomWork> ta | ||
| [2010/08/12 22:39:01] <blahdeblah> That's pretty much what i use and it works OK | ||
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| [2010/08/12 22:43:06] <blahdeblah> When any of you experts come back, please let me know what you think about the above pastebin. I found http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/3421, which gave me some info about which part of my config was failing. | ||
| [2010/08/12 22:43:38] <blahdeblah> But it certainly follows the puppet tradition of following the principle of most surprise (at least when it comes to error messages) | ||
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| [2010/08/12 23:09:21] <sarnold> anyone from puppetlabs online now? www.puppetlabs.com isn't responding to HTTP or ICMP ping | ||
| [2010/08/12 23:09:53] <sarnold> 33 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 32023ms | ||
| [2010/08/12 23:10:56] <Djelibeybi> sarnold: it's working for me. | ||
| [2010/08/12 23:11:25] <sarnold> Djelibeybi: oh, crazy; what IP? I resolve it to 74.207.250.144 | ||
| [2010/08/12 23:11:41] <Djelibeybi> Yup, same IP for me. | ||
| [2010/08/12 23:11:50] <blahdeblah> ditto | ||
| [2010/08/12 23:11:57] <blahdeblah> All good for me: 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 799ms | ||
| [2010/08/12 23:12:16] <ewdafa> the www is working fine | ||
| [2010/08/12 23:13:12] <blahdeblah> I'm getting lots of problems after upgrading to 0.25.5 | ||
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| [2010/08/12 23:13:34] <blahdeblah> Now i'm getting this: "puppetd[7121]: (//clamav/File[/var/clamav]) Failed to generate additional resources using 'eval_generate': Cannot manage files of type socket" | ||
| [2010/08/12 23:13:47] <blahdeblah> I had no problems with this directory specification previously | ||
| [2010/08/12 23:14:36] <sarnold> hrm, my traceroute dies somewhere in global crossing. oof. | ||
| [2010/08/12 23:14:54] <sarnold> makes me wonder what other bits of the internet are now sliced off from me ;) hehe | ||
| [2010/08/12 23:15:09] <blahdeblah> sarnold: Sounds like it... | ||
| [2010/08/12 23:16:07] <sarnold> danke :) | ||
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