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| [2010/08/16 01:40:34] <zed> hi there ! | ||
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| [2010/08/16 03:19:42] <sejo> if I call my define with an array it will be ran for each element in the array | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:19:56] <sejo> bet what if I want to add a parameter how do I setup the define? | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:20:05] <sejo> define bloh ($param) { ? | ||
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| [2010/08/16 03:20:17] <sejo> will the $name still contain one of the array's element? | ||
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| [2010/08/16 03:21:41] <tgeorgescu> G'day folks. Does puppet support a 'drop-in' directory for config files? I'm trying to push push initial config out to newly kickstarted clients, and I was wondering what the cleanest way of doing that was. At the moment I simply overwrite config files. | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:22:05] <tgeorgescu> By drop-in directory i mean something like puppet.d/, i.e. similar to apache. | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:23:06] <tgeorgescu> rather http/conf.d | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:23:16] <tgeorgescu> ffs, httpd/conf.d | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:23:18] <tgeorgescu> :) | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:25:15] <ohookins> sejo: i think the answer to your questions is generally "yes" but i may have misunderstood you | ||
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| [2010/08/16 03:25:46] <kjetilho> we use the exact same puppet.conf on all our clients | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:26:04] <kjetilho> and we simply overwrite the distro version | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:26:05] <ohookins> sejo: if you use an array with a type or a definition you'll get the same parameters used with each resource/definition call | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:26:34] <ohookins> sejo: and $name will reflect which one is being used at the time, within that definition | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:27:35] <sejo> ohookins: yeah that is the goal but is the construct foc the define correct (as I stated above) | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:27:50] <ohookins> sejo: pastie what you have so far | ||
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| [2010/08/16 03:31:29] <sejo> ohookins: http://pastie.org/1095289 | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:32:24] <sejo> want to call it like this def_policy { $zones: zone => 'bleh',} | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:32:44] <ohookins> sounds reasonable | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:33:33] <sejo> always get this Error 400 on SERVER: Duplicate definition: Def_policy[mgmt] is already defined in file /etc/puppet/git/modules/firewall/manifests/init.pp at line 45; | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:36:16] <sejo> although the array contains mgmt and data | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:36:36] <francispereira> sejo, you have defined mgmt twice | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:36:55] <sejo> francispereira: and where did i do that? | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:37:02] <francispereira> puppet normalizes the configuration | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:37:38] <francispereira> somewhere in you configuration | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:37:56] <sejo> francispereira: i run 2 defines with that same array is that the problem? | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:38:10] <sejo> one to setup network and one to setup the policies | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:38:25] <francispereira> look up virtual resource | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:38:32] <sejo> (in different module though) | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:38:48] <francispereira> http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/1/wiki/Virtual_Resources | ||
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| [2010/08/16 03:41:13] <sejo> francispereira: and how do i do that? i get the mgmt from my parameters | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:41:54] <sejo> i can't create a virtual resource from the value of a parameter set on the node | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:42:32] <sejo> i understand yau con't hove to users with the same name but a user and a group with the same name should be possible right? | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:42:48] <francispereira> yes it is | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:43:05] <sejo> then this should be posseible also | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:43:07] <ohookins> sejo: so call your network and policy defines differently | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:43:48] <sejo> ohookins: i do, one is setup_network and the other def_policy, or isn't that what you mean? | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:44:25] <ohookins> no that's what i mean, so if that's the case you must be calling def_policy multiple times with the same name for some reason | ||
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| [2010/08/16 03:45:21] <sejo> ohookins: i'll try to figure out where i do that | ||
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| [2010/08/16 03:56:18] <Zirafarafa> Hi all - can anyone help me with the following error: | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:56:26] <Zirafarafa> err: /File[/var/lib/puppet/lib]: Failed to generate additional resources during transaction: Fileset paths must be fully qualified | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:56:43] <Zirafarafa> I have testing an update from 0.24.8 to 2.6.1 on a test server | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:57:47] <sejo> ohookins: ach bleh indeed | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:58:09] <sejo> hmm the workflow i wanted does not work | ||
| [2010/08/16 03:58:41] <sejo> if I would be able to use a for loop i can do it, now i can't :/ | ||
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| [2010/08/16 04:09:36] <sejo> ok how would you guys do it if you have an array (like mine ['mgmt','data','bck']) and wich to create a policy between all of them (thus mgmt-data, mgmt-bck, data-mgmt, data-bck,...) | ||
| [2010/08/16 04:09:40] <sejo> wish | ||
| [2010/08/16 04:11:58] <ohookins> i can't think of any nice ways to do a cartesian product like that in puppet | ||
| [2010/08/16 04:12:34] <sejo> me neither :p | ||
| [2010/08/16 04:13:16] <ohookins> off the top of my head i'd probably create the array with every entry in it, then split up the source and destination segments using a function and pass them to the definition as variables | ||
| [2010/08/16 04:14:06] <ohookins> sorry, not pass them, but have the definition split the $name apart to determine the source and destination | ||
| [2010/08/16 04:14:54] <sejo> well I could just create a function that generates the array to be defined | ||
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| [2010/08/16 05:13:35] <Volcane> you can use a template for a lot of this kind of computation | ||
| [2010/08/16 05:13:47] <Volcane> $foo = template("sometemplate.erb") | ||
| [2010/08/16 05:14:12] <duritong> or inline_template | ||
| [2010/08/16 05:14:26] <Volcane> nods, this sounds a bit more complex than a 1 liner though :) | ||
| [2010/08/16 05:14:46] <duritong> Volcane: yeah, I have to admit I didn't really read the original question ;) | ||
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| [2010/08/16 05:42:42] <Volcane> anyone ever get these from puppetd, i get it on bad network connected hosts: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: invalid value for Integer: "eNql<LOTS of this stuff chopped>" | ||
| [2010/08/16 05:44:47] <henk> yup | ||
| [2010/08/16 05:45:17] <Volcane> wonder what the story is | ||
| [2010/08/16 05:45:22] <Volcane> once a day or so, no biggie | ||
| [2010/08/16 05:45:23] <Volcane> just annoying | ||
| [2010/08/16 05:45:52] <henk> i get it irregularly, didn't happen in a few days or even weeks now... | ||
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| [2010/08/16 05:56:33] <ohadlevy> Volcane: got a trace? | ||
| [2010/08/16 05:56:40] <Volcane> nah | ||
| [2010/08/16 05:56:46] <Volcane> cant reproduce :) | ||
| [2010/08/16 05:56:53] <Volcane> it just happens once a day or so | ||
| [2010/08/16 05:57:01] <Volcane> not at all if the internet doesnt suck that day | ||
| [2010/08/16 05:57:38] <Volcane> client.conf enough if all you want is to run the client | ||
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| [2010/08/16 05:57:39] <Volcane> oops | ||
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| [2010/08/16 08:09:49] <jamesturnbull> ohookins: hey - I forwarded you email to our internal dev list and will get one of the engineers to respond | ||
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| [2010/08/16 08:10:28] <jamesturnbull> ohookins: you also know about the puppet-dev list right? most of the engineers read that - as do most of the people who write code for puppet | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:10:30] <ohookins> jamesturnbull: that sounds like a lot of effort just for my incompetence ;) | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:10:56] <ohookins> jamesturnbull: i mailed the list, so which email are you talking about? | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:11:00] <jamesturnbull> ohookins: teach a chap to fish and all :) | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:11:29] <jamesturnbull> ohookins: there are two puppet lists - puppet-user and puppet-dev | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:11:44] <ohookins> whoops, might have sent my email to the wrong one then | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:11:58] <ohookins> dan is meant to be giving us a bit of time but he may still be onsite with someone else | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:12:21] <ohookins> and after reading ruby documentation all weekend, i'd at least like to have *some* part in fixing the problem | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:14:25] <jamesturnbull> lol | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:14:49] <jamesturnbull> yeah not sure where Dan is ... but will get one of the engineers to provide some feedback on the code | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:15:40] <ohookins> i did manage to make some progress by stubbing :rpm and :yum, which then got me past the "Could not find package" error, but now it is saying "expected 1.0, got -" | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:15:44] <ohookins> so i'm not entirely sure it is progress | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:16:13] <ohookins> i think i understand how rspec and mocha work but the workings with the puppet internals is not so clear | ||
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| [2010/08/16 08:17:31] <jamesturnbull> yeah I hate the mocking part of rspec - I always get it subtely wrong and end up scratching my head | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:18:00] <joe-mac> jamesturnbull: can you look at 4192 | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:18:12] <joe-mac> imo managing rundir's permissions is stupid | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:18:57] <joe-mac> everything that writes to /var/run is generally from init/whatever your init replacement is and starts with root, writes pid as $daemonuser and drops privs. idk why puppet should care if it's 1777... since its init script should take care of it being able to write its pid file | ||
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| [2010/08/16 08:33:56] <tmz> joe-mac: On redhat-based systems, we patch that in the packages, since we can assure that the proper users and ownership are setup for the rundir perms to be sane. | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:34:08] <tmz> see conf/redhat/rundir.patch or something like that | ||
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| [2010/08/16 08:34:47] <joe-mac> tmz: i don't follow, init writes file as root makes sure $daemonuser owns it, drops privs to $daemonuser | ||
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| [2010/08/16 08:35:26] <tmz> joe-mac: You mean, why it's ever done? | ||
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| [2010/08/16 08:35:42] <joe-mac> right | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:35:48] <joe-mac> why is puppet concerned about /var/run | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:35:53] <tmz> AFAIK, it's there to handle some cases where people run as non-root or without setting up the proper users. | ||
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| [2010/08/16 08:36:02] <joe-mac> it's like me giving a shit what some dude fishing in maine is doing right now | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:36:10] <tmz> Which seems like a broken use case to me, but that's why we patch it out. | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:36:20] <joe-mac> i agree with the broken use case portion of it | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:36:48] <joe-mac> it's not /tmp idk it strikes me as odd making it 1777 | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:36:53] <joe-mac> maybe i should e-mail -dev | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:37:03] <tmz> Perhaps part of #4192 can be to make the install script take an option to enable/disable that bit. Might make it simpler for folks installing. | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:37:03] <gepetto> tmz: #4192 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/4192 "Puppet - Bug #4192: Puppet changes permissions on /var/run, causing security spam every night from OpenBSD - Puppet Labs" | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:37:05] <joe-mac> this issue has got me annoyed this morning cause i am sick of machines complaining about that dir being mod 1777 | ||
| [2010/08/16 08:37:55] <tmz> Somewhere in the -dev archives we did talk a little about it, back when I asked why it was 1777 and ended up getting the patch for redhat systems included in conf/redhat. | ||
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| [2010/08/16 08:39:45] <joe-mac> i have two more operating systems i don't want it being 1777 on... so maybe it should be collapsed into a --notretardedpermissions option | ||
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| [2010/08/16 08:41:23] <tmz> An install option rather than runtime might make more sense. Once and done. | ||
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| [2010/08/16 08:46:48] <tmz> joe-mac: FWIW, the pervious thread on puppet-dev is: http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-dev/browse_thread/thread/d75819c3f4f7f37c/ | ||
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| [2010/08/16 09:57:09] <axisys_> i am doing a fresh install on 2.6 .. how do I integrate passenger to it? http://github.com/reductivelabs/puppet/tree/master/ext/rack is pretty old and does not cover passenger installtion for puppet 2.6 | ||
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| [2010/08/16 10:46:31] <dballing> axisys_: nobody has answered you yet, but the last I remember reading there wasn't a good passenger walk through yet. I'm not even sure anyone has 2.6/passenger working yet | ||
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| [2010/08/16 10:47:12] <dballing> I know because I've been watching and waiting for someone since we've got 0.25.5 with passenger so I'm going to need that working before I can upgrade. :-) | ||
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| [2010/08/16 11:22:22] <dan__t> hrm... I think I want to concat /etc/motd to display which classes, which configs, which values etc etc are on a node.... | ||
| [2010/08/16 11:22:27] <dan__t> I think that would help tremendously. | ||
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| [2010/08/16 11:33:26] <cyrus_mc> How do i generate a pseudo random number for use when scheduling cron jobs | ||
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| [2010/08/16 11:36:11] <fsweetser> cyrus_mc: I would use fqdn_rand | ||
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| [2010/08/16 11:36:37] <fsweetser> it uses the fqdn as the random seed, so each host will get a different value, but a given host will always get the same value | ||
| [2010/08/16 11:36:52] <fsweetser> that way you don't have your cron jobs drifting on each puppet run | ||
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| [2010/08/16 11:37:42] <cyrus_mc> Thanks. Will look at that | ||
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| [2010/08/16 11:38:34] <proprietarysucks> can I tell puppet to backup a file before changing it, if it's different? | ||
| [2010/08/16 11:39:10] <nahamu> I think that's the default behavior | ||
| [2010/08/16 11:39:17] <jense> it does, feature is named filebucket afaik | ||
| [2010/08/16 11:39:39] <cyrus_mc> I was wondering same thing. The file resource will auto do that but what about when you use augeas or something like that | ||
| [2010/08/16 11:39:47] <proprietarysucks> oh.. where would that be? on the server | ||
| [2010/08/16 11:40:12] <nahamu> cyrus_mc, I don't think the augeas provider does that by default | ||
| [2010/08/16 11:40:18] <proprietarysucks> I don't find anything for `locate hosts` (looking for old /etc/hosts of a client) | ||
| [2010/08/16 11:40:38] <nahamu> it will be named with the md5(I think) checksum of the content | ||
| [2010/08/16 11:40:46] <nahamu> the logs should mention where it was put | ||
| [2010/08/16 11:41:08] <cyrus_mc> It doesn't was wondering if there was a way to make it | ||
| [2010/08/16 11:41:08] <proprietarysucks> hmm ok thanks | ||
| [2010/08/16 11:43:03] <nahamu> proprietaryucks, on my system the filebucket lives in /var/lib/puppet/clientbucket | ||
| [2010/08/16 11:43:17] <nahamu> that's on the client side | ||
| [2010/08/16 11:43:43] <nahamu> and my log files indicate the checksum to look for | ||
| [2010/08/16 11:44:36] <proprietarysucks> oh interesting thanks | ||
| [2010/08/16 11:44:51] <nahamu> cyrus_mc, I don't see that as an option... http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/types/augeas.html | ||
| [2010/08/16 11:45:46] <axisys_> anyidea why it is failing? | ||
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| [2010/08/16 11:45:49] <axisys_> http://pastie.org/private/uubbdzh2xsypazzfg2scw | ||
| [2010/08/16 11:46:45] <Kiloman> axisys just 'cause it's installed doesn't mean Puppet knows about it | ||
| [2010/08/16 11:47:05] <Kiloman> where's your package{'apache2': ensure => installed} at | ||
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| [2010/08/16 12:26:38] <proprietarysucks> anyone in here using puppet to manage mac systems? | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:27:10] <proprietarysucks> I'm wondering about things like package management, mounts at bootup, and other things which are apparently quite complicated in mac cli | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:28:01] <beata_> i have that done using mcx i belive on mac well except package managment | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:28:03] <beata_> that just sucks | ||
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| [2010/08/16 12:28:09] <axisys_> ok by changing the lsbdistid to Ubuntu I were able to pass that issue | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:28:13] <w00> proprietarysucks read this? http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Puppet_Mac_Osx | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:28:15] <axisys_> now I am having this issue | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:28:17] <axisys_> http://pastie.org/private/i0eo4838x5w7evjfswqbw | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:28:28] <axisys_> not sure if I follow what it meant | ||
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| [2010/08/16 12:41:46] <cyrus_mc> trying to modify a cron job like such | ||
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| [2010/08/16 12:42:38] <cyrus_mc> pastebin.com/z1EN1yLz | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:43:07] <cyrus_mc> but as you can see it just adds the new cron entry instead of modifying | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:43:20] <cyrus_mc> the current one that was there | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:43:47] <axisys> i am trying to install passenger .. but it is failing .. i am using the latest git of puppet and passenger 2.2.15 | ||
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| [2010/08/16 12:43:50] <proprietarysucks> i haven't used cron {} | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:43:53] <axisys> http://pastie.org/private/i0eo4838x5w7evjfswqbw | ||
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| [2010/08/16 12:43:58] <axisys> that is where I am stuck now | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:44:01] <proprietarysucks> what I have done is just used the file in /etc/cron.d and set it to a value | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:44:06] <proprietarysucks> will never make dupes | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:45:23] <proprietarysucks> you understand what I mean? | ||
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| [2010/08/16 12:51:14] <cyrus_mc> axisys. u need to use 2.2.5 | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:52:04] <axisys> cyrus_mc: so gem install -v 2.2.5 passenger .. like that ? i am gem newbie | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:52:07] <cyrus_mc> proprietarysucks..that works for global crons but i need to modify user level crons as well | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:52:26] <cyrus_mc> ya. uninstall old one first | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:53:10] <proprietarysucks> ah I see | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:53:15] <proprietarysucks> I've never used that feature, ever | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:54:07] <proprietarysucks> it's rare for me to ever have been around systems which use many non root accounts | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:54:18] <proprietarysucks> and if they ever did, the scripts would still be run by root | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:54:44] <proprietarysucks> so anyways long story short I have no idea how to tell it to make only one instance. I'm wondering if your random time would interfere with that concept too | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:55:05] <cyrus_mc> not suppose to | ||
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| [2010/08/16 12:59:07] <axisys> cyrus_mc: still same issue | ||
| [2010/08/16 12:59:14] <axisys> cyrus_mc: http://pastie.org/private/dtg9ax5pgpg3acv9mgww | ||
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| [2010/08/16 13:20:00] <bkero> Hey guys. I've been using the Ssh_authorized_key type, and every time puppet gets run, puppet says it is creating it. Is that expected behavior? | ||
| [2010/08/16 13:21:13] <Kiloman> I've noticed the same thing | ||
| [2010/08/16 13:21:21] <Kiloman> it doesn't seem to parse the user list properly | ||
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| [2010/08/16 13:39:39] <axisys> I finally were able to start puppetmasterd using passenger | ||
| [2010/08/16 13:39:48] <axisys> now I am getting this ... what is it mean? | ||
| [2010/08/16 13:39:50] <axisys> http://pastie.org/1096322 | ||
| [2010/08/16 13:40:06] <axisys> You cannot save facts to the code store; it is only used for getting facts from Facter <--this is mainly | ||
| [2010/08/16 13:40:20] <duritong> anybody knows if it's possible to evaluate a template in a template? | ||
| [2010/08/16 13:40:21] <axisys> I am running 2.6.1 | ||
| [2010/08/16 13:40:34] <axisys> older version 0.25.4 did not have that message | ||
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| [2010/08/16 13:44:03] <chadh> axisys: take a look at #4527 | ||
| [2010/08/16 13:44:03] <gepetto> chadh: axisys: #4527 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/4527 "Puppet - Bug #4527: Example config.ru does not work with 2.6.1rc2 - Puppet Labs" | ||
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| [2010/08/16 13:44:27] <axisys> chadh: thanks | ||
| [2010/08/16 13:44:48] <chadh> axisys: that was just from googling around, so no promises. I haven't tried 2.6 yet | ||
| [2010/08/16 13:46:41] <axisys> chadh: did not help by changing puppetmaster to master | ||
| [2010/08/16 13:46:43] <pseubodot> is the puppet.schema only in git? | ||
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| [2010/08/16 13:58:29] <chadh> pseubodot: probably depends on the distro. for fedora/rhel, it is in /usr/share/puppet | ||
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| [2010/08/16 14:04:01] <axisys> failing to rake puppet-dashboard rails .. getting this error | ||
| [2010/08/16 14:04:11] <axisys> http://pastie.org/private/bk0gx8tyg7zherbufjwm9g (passowrd is sanitized before posting this) | ||
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| [2010/08/16 14:16:31] <mapu_> I am having some difficulty creating a user using puppet- I am probably just brain cramping | ||
| [2010/08/16 14:16:44] <mapu_> is there a doc specifically on managing users? | ||
| [2010/08/16 14:16:57] <fsweetser> mapu_: check out the types reference page | ||
| [2010/08/16 14:17:00] <fsweetser> it has a section on the users type | ||
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| [2010/08/16 14:19:24] <jamesturnbull> mapu_: refs:Type | ||
| [2010/08/16 14:19:30] <jamesturnbull> mapu_: ref:Type | ||
| [2010/08/16 14:19:59] <jamesturnbull> ref:type | ||
| [2010/08/16 14:19:59] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: ref: ref:type is http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/latest/type.html "Puppet Labs" | ||
| [2010/08/16 14:20:07] <jamesturnbull> mapu_: ref:type | ||
| [2010/08/16 14:20:07] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: mapu_: ref:type is http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/latest/type.html "Puppet Labs" | ||
| [2010/08/16 14:20:11] <jamesturnbull> stupid bot | ||
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| [2010/08/16 14:20:35] <mapu_> Good- I am there | ||
| [2010/08/16 14:21:34] <mapu_> reading about that | ||
| [2010/08/16 14:21:57] <mapu_> I have found several examples, specifically w/virtual users- and hame having no luck | ||
| [2010/08/16 14:22:28] <mapu_> in my default node, I include virt_users | ||
| [2010/08/16 14:22:47] <mapu_> and in my users/ dir, I have a virt_users.pp | ||
| [2010/08/16 14:22:56] <mapu_> in that is my def | ||
| [2010/08/16 14:23:15] <mapu_> when I run puppet on my test client- no user is created | ||
| [2010/08/16 14:25:03] <mapu_> my virt_users.pp is at http://pastebin.com/RtTzXrxs | ||
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| [2010/08/16 14:28:21] <bkero> Kiloman: I think you need the name attribute, that's used as the primary key. | ||
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| [2010/08/16 14:57:41] <dan__t> Oh bad-ass I can set FACTER_FOO="bar" and get that from facter? | ||
| [2010/08/16 14:57:44] <dan__t> way cool. | ||
| [2010/08/16 14:58:59] <Volcane> yup :) | ||
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| [2010/08/16 15:08:09] <dan__t> So Chaining resources... it looks like its best practice to chain based on the default of that resource type? | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:08:19] <dan__t> e.g. from the examples, File["/etc/ntp.conf"] ~> Service[ntpd] | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:08:40] <dan__t> Instead of cramming them in to a resource definition itself? | ||
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| [2010/08/16 15:44:40] <dan__t> When making run stages, where do I define that? Like inside a class? | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:44:52] <dan__t> And where do I get/set/define/whatever the name of the stage? | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:44:56] <dan__t> Is that name a class itself? | ||
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| [2010/08/16 15:48:39] <Volcane> you create the stages in site.pp | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:48:48] <Volcane> and you use tehm with parameterized classes | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:49:28] <Volcane> there's a stage => "foo" parameter, but only on classes and only when using parameterized | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:49:43] <tomben> is it save to delete the clientbucket? Will the files therein be recreated? I think I'm running into http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/2019... | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:50:18] <Volcane> well thats according to docs, I've not played with stages or much of 2.6.x | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:50:29] <dan__t> oh, didn't see that site.pp was supposed to be touched... | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:50:57] <Volcane> dan__t: well i assume the 'stage { "first": before => Stage[main] } | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:51:00] <dan__t> ok, where do I define "foot" | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:51:05] <Volcane> lines need to be in global scope, so in site.pp | ||
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| [2010/08/16 15:51:24] <dan__t> right, didn't see that either, but good to know thanks. | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:51:54] <dan__t> The lablem that is. | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:52:01] <dan__t> Assuming it kind of works the same way that tags do? | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:52:08] <Volcane> http://docs.reductivelabs.com/guides/language_tutorial.html#run_stages | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:52:22] <dan__t> Yeah. I'm looking at it. | ||
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| [2010/08/16 15:52:37] <dan__t> So, we see: stage { "first": before => Stage[main] } | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:52:43] <dan__t> Where do I define where "first" is ? | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:54:11] <Volcane> thats it, that defines the stage | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:54:41] <Volcane> and then you need to use the new parametarized classes and not include class | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:55:14] <Volcane> would have thought chaining also allows it somehow but not documented | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:55:17] <Volcane> so not sure | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:55:41] <dan__t> So, what, the stage name is the parameter? | ||
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| [2010/08/16 15:56:03] <dan__t> I think that's a bad example heh | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:56:10] <Volcane> stage name is first | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:56:15] <dan__t> yes | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:56:28] <dan__t> but what's a name? where is it defined? how do I reference it? how do I declare it? where does it go?? | ||
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| [2010/08/16 15:56:46] <Volcane> you create the stage as above | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:56:50] <Volcane> in site.pp | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:56:54] <Volcane> this makes it availble for use | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:56:54] <dan__t> Ok. | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:57:04] <dan__t> Right. But does the stage name correspond to a class? | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:57:08] <Volcane> by default the only stage that exist is 'main' | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:57:14] <dan__t> Yes. | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:57:17] <Volcane> so the before etc tells it where in the tree the stages fit | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:57:34] <Volcane> then in the new class syntax | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:57:40] <dan__t> So a STAGE name corresponds to a.......... what | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:57:40] <Volcane> you dont include klass | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:57:41] <dan__t> class name? | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:57:42] <Volcane> you: | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:57:57] <Volcane> class {"foo": stage => "first"} | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:58:04] <Volcane> this 'includes' the class foo in the stage first | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:58:38] <dan__t> hrm | ||
| [2010/08/16 15:59:11] <dan__t> Ok, then assuming the stage name is "first", the following in site.pp would ensure that it is executed before main: stage { "first": before => Stage[main] } | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:00:07] <Volcane> yeah though i dont get this to work in a simple test | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:00:15] <dan__t> I see. | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:00:15] <Volcane> maybe i am not understanding it - first time playing with it | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:00:22] <dan__t> Well. That's different. | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:00:32] <dan__t> Sounded like I wanted to use it in the beginning. Now? Not so much heh. | ||
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| [2010/08/16 16:01:07] <Volcane> like i am not sure where "include klass" puts it, you'd think in main? | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:01:35] <dan__t> I really don't know.... was reading that, but I can't tell. | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:02:24] <Volcane> docs seem to suggest it would be main | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:02:37] <dan__t> Or do they. | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:02:53] <Volcane> but then http://pastie.org/1096579 | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:03:05] <Volcane> makes no sense, cos class Bar shouldnt be before Foo | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:03:48] <dan__t> right. | ||
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| [2010/08/16 16:04:55] <dan__t> well. Bummer. | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:05:31] <Volcane> docs says: "By default there is only one stage named 'main' and all classes are automatically associated with this stage. Unless explicitly stated, a class will be associated with the main stage" | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:05:37] <Volcane> so that should put bar after foo | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:06:13] <dan__t> yes. | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:06:27] <Volcane> will open a ticket | ||
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| [2010/08/16 16:10:48] <Volcane> #4542 | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:10:48] <gepetto> Volcane: #4542 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/4542 "Puppet - Bug #4542: Classes included with 'include' does not end up in the main stage - Puppet Labs" | ||
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| [2010/08/16 16:13:47] <dan__t> hot. | ||
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| [2010/08/16 16:55:39] <Kiloman> so, building file contents out of multiple define statements | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:55:57] <Kiloman> is there a better way to do that than multiple execs? | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:56:24] <Kiloman> that append to the file contents? | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:56:36] <carlasouza> Kiloman: you could use tmeplates | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:56:46] <carlasouza> s/tmeplates/templates | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:57:44] <Kiloman> I've got a file that I want to contain a standard header and footer | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:58:19] <Kiloman> and in between I want to add one or more lines by calling a define | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:58:35] <Kiloman> I can't build the file contents or append to a variable | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:58:42] <carlasouza> Kiloman: i think templates is exacly what you want. you can read moro about it at http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/1/wiki/Puppet_Templating | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:59:01] <Kiloman> yeah I'm already using templates | ||
| [2010/08/16 16:59:29] <Kiloman> but I don't see how that lets me build the contents with multiple definitions | ||
| [2010/08/16 17:00:09] <carlasouza> what you mean by multiple definitions? | ||
| [2010/08/16 17:00:39] <Kiloman> I want to be able to call a definition multiple times to add lines to the file | ||
| [2010/08/16 17:00:56] <Kiloman> with each line being templated based on variables in the definition | ||
| [2010/08/16 17:01:16] <Kiloman> definition = define ( foo = 1, bar = 2) { } | ||
| [2010/08/16 17:01:32] <Kiloman> er, | ||
| [2010/08/16 17:01:59] <Kiloman> define file_line ( foo = 1, bar = 2) { something } | ||
| [2010/08/16 17:02:36] <Kiloman> and then call file_line{"line1": foo => 12, bar => 34} etc | ||
| [2010/08/16 17:02:44] <Kiloman> and have multiple lines inserted into the file | ||
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| [2010/08/16 17:03:19] <Kiloman> the real work in the template example is being done by the apache Include, he's not actually adding multiple sections to the file | ||
| [2010/08/16 17:03:42] <Kiloman> which is what I was hoping to do | ||
| [2010/08/16 17:04:41] <Kiloman> something like this http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Building_Multipart_Files_Patterns | ||
| [2010/08/16 17:05:01] <Kiloman> but I guess I was hoping for something less ugly than just calling an exec to concatenate it all | ||
| [2010/08/16 17:05:30] <carlasouza> i see.. | ||
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| [2010/08/16 17:26:46] <gniks> does puppet run on centos4? | ||
| [2010/08/16 17:27:54] <wakko666> gniks: yes, but with caveats due to the old version of ruby shipped with el4. | ||
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| [2010/08/16 17:28:34] <gniks> thought so :) thanks, had to settle an argument with a colleague hehe | ||
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| [2010/08/16 17:29:07] <wakko666> yeah, i've still got some el4 systems here at $dayjob. they're running puppet (mostly) fine. | ||
| [2010/08/16 17:30:22] <TomWork> is there a module who can change ldap config in ldap.conf (on el5) ? | ||
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| [2010/08/16 17:34:08] <Kiloman> augeas? | ||
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| [2010/08/16 18:03:21] <imran_> I accidentally ran puppetca --clean --all on our puppet master. its our qa puppet setup... so not too bad. but how do I fix it? the puppets don't automatically request certs. and I deleted the keys on one of the clients (because it wasn't requesting a cert on a restart) but after request/signing, it gives me a "source did not contain any PSON!" | ||
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| [2010/08/16 18:04:08] <imran_> I guess i can start with a totally blank config (wipe /var/lib/puppet) and restart and reinstall puppetmaster (this is a centos 5.5 on puppet 2.6.0) | ||
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| [2010/08/16 18:06:19] <imran_> not blank config... i mean blank the stored info. anyway, there must be a better way to recover. | ||
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| [2010/08/16 18:17:11] <cyrus_mc> I am trying to use the cron resource to modify existing cron jobs on my servers. I put in the command exactly as it is in the cron currently but when puppet runs it doesn't modify the current entry, it just adds a new one | ||
| [2010/08/16 18:17:32] <cyrus_mc> all subsequent runs just modify the new entry that was run the first time | ||
| [2010/08/16 18:17:53] <cyrus_mc> is that the behaviour | ||
| [2010/08/16 18:22:35] <Kiloman> cyrus_mc: Puppet doesn't actually look at the crontab entries | ||
| [2010/08/16 18:23:04] <cyrus_mc> Kiloman: I thought the cron resource was able to handle cron entries | ||
| [2010/08/16 18:23:09] <Kiloman> it just looks at the "# Puppet Name: foo" line and modifies whatever's after it | ||
| [2010/08/16 18:23:14] <cyrus_mc> ah | ||
| [2010/08/16 18:23:21] <cyrus_mc> figured it was something like that | ||
| [2010/08/16 18:23:30] <Kiloman> yeah it's kind of weak | ||
| [2010/08/16 18:23:38] <cyrus_mc> seems like it | ||
| [2010/08/16 18:23:45] <cyrus_mc> should be able to handle the whole thing.. | ||
| [2010/08/16 18:23:45] <Kiloman> won't work for modifying existing entries unless you go and add the necessary comments yourself | ||
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| [2010/08/16 18:24:00] <cyrus_mc> oh, well I can just use the edit module to remove the line I want | ||
| [2010/08/16 18:24:05] <cyrus_mc> and then add it back in | ||
| [2010/08/16 18:24:22] <cyrus_mc> the remove will be temporary since once run on all nodes the entry I am looking for will be removed | ||
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| [2010/08/16 20:17:25] <dmreiland> I have a question regarding puppet and scaling | ||
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| [2010/08/16 20:18:36] <dmreiland> specifically, running into a persistent issue when downloading files from the puppetmaster | ||
| [2010/08/16 20:18:47] <dmreiland> I get "undefined method `closed?' for nil:NilClass" on a few resources | ||
| [2010/08/16 20:20:45] <dmreiland> I am currently running under WEBrick during the pilot | ||
| [2010/08/16 20:21:22] <dmreiland> wondering if it is related to that -- hoping someone more experienced may have run across it and be able to offer some guidance | ||
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| [2010/08/16 22:20:09] <justdave> anyone know what might cause puppetca to take 15 to 20 minutes to generate a certificate? | ||
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| [2010/08/16 22:21:25] <alcy> I have puppet --modulepath not responding unless I explicitly do an echo include <classname> and pipe it to puppet. I tried mentioning a separate manifest location as well. Also, there are no messages displayed even with trace, debug and verbose. | ||
| [2010/08/16 22:21:47] <alcy> How do I then diagnose this ? | ||
| [2010/08/16 22:22:09] <alcy> doing an strace noew | ||
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| [2010/08/16 22:24:13] <justdave> puppetca doesn't seem to be using much cpu, it's like it's just sitting there waiting for something | ||
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