| [2010/08/19 00:00:43] @ Log started by gepetto | ||
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| [2010/08/19 00:01:13] <nico> which distro ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:01:15] <jeffryh> suse | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:01:19] <jeffryh> hrm | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:01:31] <jeffryh> maybe I need to include the zypper puppet module before it knows what zypper is? | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:01:33] <nico> because suse moved from rug to zypper ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:02:04] <nico> old suse and new puppet ? this may explain | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:02:14] <jeffryh> suse 11.1 | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:02:36] <Volcane> puppetca complains about zypper? | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:02:44] <jeffryh> no just puppetd on a client | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:02:57] <jeffryh> is zypper not a built in provider? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 00:03:27] <nico> depends of your puppet version | ||
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| [2010/08/19 00:04:13] <jeffryh> 0.25.5 says my puppetd | ||
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| [2010/08/19 00:06:23] <jeffryh> gonna try importing the zypper module before i set the provider | ||
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| [2010/08/19 00:11:31] <FiXion> I have several classes (in same module) that puts files in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ - but I would like puppet to clear the folder of files no longer "ensured" by puppet | ||
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| [2010/08/19 00:12:08] <FiXion> but since it's not just a directory I put out there - I can't just do it using the purge option afaik. | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:12:30] <Djelibeybi> FiXion: resource { "file": purge => true } in that class | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:12:32] <FiXion> I was thinking of some "forced" pre-exec - to remove all files in folder - before enabling the ones that will be enabled. | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:12:46] <FiXion> but won't puppet then think it changed something - and restart apache on every run? | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:13:08] <Volcane> FiXion: the FAQ shows a solution | ||
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| [2010/08/19 00:13:27] <Djelibeybi> FiXion: not sure. It should only restart Apache if one of the actually managed files (that has a Subscribe/Notify relationship) changes. | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:13:57] <FiXion> Volcane: this FAQ : http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/faq.html | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:14:17] <FiXion> Djelibeybi: but if they are removed first (by purge).. | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:14:35] <Djelibeybi> FiXion: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions#I+Want+To+Manage+A+Directory+and+Purge+Its+Contents | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:14:42] <Djelibeybi> FiXion: managed files are not removed. | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:14:45] <FiXion> and do I need a require => exec["file-purge"] on every .. | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:14:58] <Djelibeybi> FiXion: there is no exec in this case. | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:15:09] <Djelibeybi> FiXion: also, you can manage both a directory and specific files in the same place. | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:15:54] <kjetilho> there ought to be an option for purge, "don't touch files coming from the package system" | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:15:57] <FiXion> so the purge is just run at some "random" place - but it figures out not to purge those it has been told to ensure in the same run ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:16:16] <FiXion> I'll go try that on my test system | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:16:19] <FiXion> thank you for feedback | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:16:31] <Djelibeybi> FiXion: correct. | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:16:38] <Volcane> that FAQ page seems quite short | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:16:53] <kjetilho> can't really rely on updating the list of files for every package upgrade... | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:16:56] <Djelibeybi> Volcane: yeah, I don't think the full FAQ has been converted across. | ||
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| [2010/08/19 00:27:52] <jeffryh> could someone help me figure out where to put a .rb file to make puppet recognize it as a provider? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 00:28:43] <paradox12> lib/puppet/provider/modulename/ | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:28:50] <paradox12> from the module directory level. | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:29:27] <jeffryh> i'm really new but what module would that go in? | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:29:40] <paradox12> whatever module that you're writing a provider for. | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:29:53] <paradox12> what's the provider? | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:29:56] <jeffryh> zypper.rb | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:30:25] <paradox12> and it's not part of a module already? | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:30:25] <jeffryh> package provider | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:30:34] <Djelibeybi> jeffryh: isn't it built into Puppet in 2.6? | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:30:35] <paradox12> you could maybe put it in the common module or something. | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:30:43] <jeffryh> its in common now | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:30:57] <paradox12> well there ya go :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:31:03] <jeffryh> but when i tried to set the package provider to zypper it says no | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:32:01] <jeffryh> so i dunno what's wrong | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:33:15] <paradox12> it sounds like you're going to have to debug it | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:34:05] <jeffryh> ya we are stuck on puppet 0.25 | ||
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| [2010/08/19 00:35:02] <jeffryh> just says invalid package provider zypper, how do i debug it? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 00:39:57] <Volcane> where did you put the zypper.rb? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 00:40:56] <FiXion> file { "/etc/apache2/sites-enabled": purge => true, force => true, } | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:41:01] <FiXion> this doesn't do anything :( | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:41:17] <ohadlevy> FiXion: ensure => absent? | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:42:00] <FiXion> recurse was needed appearently | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:42:50] <FiXion> appearently it doesn't work as stated on the FAQ | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:43:03] <FiXion> it "randomly" leaves files in sites-enabled | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:43:18] <Volcane> FiXion: what version? | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:43:22] <FiXion> 0.25.5 | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:43:29] <Volcane> it works fine | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:43:30] <jeffryh> Volcane, /etc/puppet/bise/common/bb_zypper/lib/puppet/provider/package/zypper.rb | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:43:48] <Volcane> jeffryh: and did you enable pluginsync on master and client? | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:44:47] <FiXion> Volcane: first run - it removed alle files except 3. Ran again - it removed all - except default. removed the rule - now it put the 5 files it was supposed to. | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:44:55] <jeffryh> Volcane, hrm.. I think my client conf is not correct | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:44:57] <FiXion> so no - it does not work as stated in the FAQ | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:45:08] <FiXion> perhaps something is implicit - which I didn't do | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:45:45] <Volcane> FiXion: line 119 onward http://github.com/ripienaar/puppet-concat/blob/master/manifests/init.pp | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:46:34] <Volcane> FiXion: that works | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:48:48] <Volcane> jeffryh: when its correct you'll see your client copy the zypper.rb over first time you do puppetd --test | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:49:14] <FiXion> Volcane: is the Exec you notify - the only place where files gets created ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:49:27] <Volcane> FiXion: the files arent created by the exec ignore it | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:49:45] <FiXion> then why the heck doesn't it work for me :( | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:49:59] <jeffryh> now we're cooking with gas | ||
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| [2010/08/19 00:51:21] <Volcane> FiXion: you'r creating all the files there with file resources right? no execs or funny things? | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:51:42] <jeffryh> Volcane, ya pluginsync wasn't enabled, somehow my clients puppet.conf was the default and not the one i wanted. | ||
| [2010/08/19 00:51:45] <jeffryh> thought it was synced over already | ||
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| [2010/08/19 00:51:47] <jeffryh> thanks man | ||
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| [2010/08/19 03:08:35] <TomHome> is there a doco somewhere which explain the SSL negotiation dialog ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:09:10] <TomHome> I have with mongrel err: Could not request certificate: sslv3 alert handshake failure | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:10:44] <TomHome> it seems from my understanding that the client needs to send his certificate but it's not accepted | ||
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| [2010/08/19 03:15:16] <TomHome> indeed it's the SSLVerify | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:15:32] <TomHome> because if I use webrick it doesn't ask for a certificate | ||
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| [2010/08/19 03:24:34] <TomHome> I think that the following doco should say to use SSLVerifyClient optional instead of SSLVerifyClient require (http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/1/wiki/Using_Mongrel) | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:24:56] <Volcane> you have to verify the clients. | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:25:23] <TomHome> because when it's a new client which you want to be signed by the server... it doesn't have a cert signed by the CA ... and obviously can't get one because it can connect ! ;-) | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:25:35] <TomHome> because when it's a new client which you want to be signed by the server... it doesn't have a cert signed by the CA ... and obviously can't get one because it can NOT connect ! ;-) | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:25:58] <TomHome> am I right ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:26:35] <Volcane> hmm | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:26:36] <TomHome> anyway if I compare the behaviour with webrick if I do : curl -k -L https://puppet:8140 | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:26:49] <TomHome> I have an answer : The environment must be purely alphanumeric, not '' | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:27:12] <TomHome> I have the same behaviour if I disable SSLVerify or if I say it to be optional | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:27:29] <TomHome> otherwise I have SSLv3 handshake issue because my cert is not signed by the CA... normal I can't | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:27:48] <Volcane> mine has it optional, i suspect that page may have changed at some point | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:28:19] <Volcane> anyway, you cant just request the root of the puppet server, you need to send a request that maps to the REST structure that has include environment info | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:28:30] <TomHome> so I believe the SSLVerify is just here if you want to authenticate your client and to be sure nobody else can and obviously you use a third party process to sign your client cert | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:28:51] <TomHome> like you don't use puppetca but a real ca and you manually install the signed cert for the client | ||
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| [2010/08/19 03:29:20] <Volcane> nods, afaik puppetmaster will verify it using those variables that get set | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:29:22] <Volcane> might be wrong | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:29:27] <TomHome> Volcane> anyway, you cant just request the root | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:29:34] <spike> wow, a lot more people than there used to be around here | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:30:10] <TomHome> what do you mean ? that my curl test is invalid... I don't try to get something, I just wanted to see if I can connect or no to see the different behaviour between webrick, mongrel+optional or mongrel+require | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:30:46] <Volcane> TomHome: a valid request might be: /production/file_metadata/modules/somemodule/somefile | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:30:58] <TomHome> ok | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:31:04] <Volcane> TomHome: the '/production/' there is the environment the client is in and its required | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:31:06] <TomHome> so https://puppet:8140//production/file_metadata/modules/somemodule/somefile | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:31:11] <TomHome> yep | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:31:27] <TomHome> it's by default production IIRC | ||
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| [2010/08/19 03:31:38] <TomHome> if not explicity said in the puppet.conf | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:31:42] <Volcane> the client sends production by default | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:31:47] <TomHome> agreed | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:31:49] <Volcane> it *sends* production. | ||
| [2010/08/19 03:32:05] <TomHome> yep | ||
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| [2010/08/19 04:14:48] <bikochan> hello | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:15:53] <bikochan> is this the right channel to ask about puppet? | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:17:02] <kjetilho> as long as it's not sock puppets, yes | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:17:25] <bikochan> :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:17:40] <bikochan> i'm picking up this puppet installation | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:18:03] <bikochan> i've got puppetmaster and puppetd running on one machine | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:18:29] <bikochan> when i run puppetd -tv it complains about the certificates | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:18:58] <bikochan> "err: Could not request certificate: Certificate does not match private key. Try 'puppetca --clean blah' | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:19:10] <bikochan> tried that | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:19:23] <bikochan> but the error is still there | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:20:36] <bikochan> any idea of the next step? | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:20:39] <hal-j> who are you running "puppetca —clean" as? | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:20:42] <hal-j> who is puppetmaster running as | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:20:56] <hal-j> and finally, who are you running "puppetd -tv" as | ||
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| [2010/08/19 04:26:06] <bikochan> root | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:26:35] <bikochan> for --clean | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:26:45] <bikochan> puppet for puppetmaster | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:27:02] <bikochan> i should run the command as puppetmaster? | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:27:10] <bikochan> oups | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:27:26] <bikochan> i should run the command as puppet ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:27:32] <Naresh> doesn't matter | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:27:54] <hal-j> nah, that should be OK | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:28:13] <hal-j> you couldn't run the —clean as another user though, or it wouldn't clean (thought that may have been your issue) | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:29:08] <bikochan> right, root seems to be the only to know the path anyway | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:31:05] <bikochan> when I look into /var/lib/puppet/ssl I can find the file form blah | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:31:11] <bikochan> s/form/for/ | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:32:12] <bikochan> when I run the commands, it removes the files | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:32:34] <bikochan> then I run puupetd -tv , it's recreating these and I get the same error | ||
| [2010/08/19 04:32:54] <bikochan> all other nodes work fine | ||
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| [2010/08/19 05:01:52] <GioGio> hi everyone | ||
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| [2010/08/19 05:07:17] <GioGio> I have a question about multiple puppet (like yesterday), if I have one CA, I have to configure the ca_server option on each client or only on each masters ? And it's the master who contact the right CA ? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 05:22:58] <threescoops> Is there a recommended pattern to catch missing variables in a template? | ||
| [2010/08/19 05:23:18] <kjetilho> threescoops: I like to use rescue | ||
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| [2010/08/19 05:25:28] <threescoops> Gah, http://docs.puppetlabs.com/trac/puppet/wiki/PuppetTemplating is 404ing | ||
| [2010/08/19 05:27:32] <Volcane> threescoops: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/templating.html | ||
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| [2010/08/19 05:29:19] <threescoops> Volcane: thanks. Was just hunting for more docs | ||
| [2010/08/19 05:31:20] <threescoops> ...as well as doing a couple of other things, including grumbling :) | ||
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| [2010/08/19 05:48:55] <jtgiri_> HI guys, can somebody please show me an example config for copying rpm to client machine and than installing the rpm | ||
| [2010/08/19 05:49:01] <jtgiri_> do i need to use exec ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 05:49:33] <threescoops> jtgiri_: any reason why you can't use yum + repositories? | ||
| [2010/08/19 05:49:33] <Volcane> you dont have yum? | ||
| [2010/08/19 05:49:49] <jtgiri_> yum doesn't have this paticuler package | ||
| [2010/08/19 05:49:59] <jtgiri_> i built the rpm | ||
| [2010/08/19 05:50:02] <Volcane> make a local repository for your networ, add the package | ||
| [2010/08/19 05:50:05] <threescoops> Considered setting up your own repo to host it then? | ||
| [2010/08/19 05:50:18] * threescoops lets Volcane drive :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 05:50:28] <Volcane> :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 05:51:05] <jtgiri_> Okay | ||
| [2010/08/19 05:51:36] <Volcane> basically yum is just much better at this stuff than exec/filecopy/etc | ||
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| [2010/08/19 05:51:44] <jtgiri_> I see | ||
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| [2010/08/19 05:51:56] <Volcane> and you will no doubt in future want to use a local repo too | ||
| [2010/08/19 05:52:09] <Volcane> like, you should probably mirror everything you need to build a server locally | ||
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| [2010/08/19 05:52:14] <jtgiri_> can you give me an example for installing it with yum ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 05:52:24] <Volcane> package{"foo": ensure => present} | ||
| [2010/08/19 05:52:45] <jtgiri_> oh got ya , thanks lot | ||
| [2010/08/19 05:53:02] <lisa> you can also do $packagelist = [ 'foo', 'bar', 'baz' ] and then package $packagelist: ensure => present } | ||
| [2010/08/19 05:53:34] <jtgiri_> great! | ||
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| [2010/08/19 06:01:43] <joergherzinger> I just started experimenting with puppetmaster 2.6 and I am getting a strange error on my clients: "err: /File[/var/lib/puppet/lib]: Failed to generate additional resources during transaction: Fileset paths must be fully qualified" | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:01:52] <joergherzinger> Any ideas what this is about? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 06:40:29] <FST777> Hello, I'm getting a strange error with 0.25.5 that does not occur using 0.25.1 (client, with 0.25.5 master): http://pastebin.ca/1920033 | ||
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| [2010/08/19 06:43:52] <FST777> Anyone around? | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:43:56] <ohadlevy> FST777:you are running puppet as a normal user which cant access the file.... | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:44:08] <FST777> this happened with puppet invocated as root | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:44:49] <ohadlevy> FST777: is this an nfs mount? | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:44:55] <FST777> Nope | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:45:00] <ohadlevy> selinux? | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:45:04] <FST777> as said: it works perfectly well with 0.25.1 | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:45:24] <ohadlevy> FST777: doesnt make any sense to me... can you access the file in question? | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:45:26] <FST777> after that version has done a run, there are no issues (and this only occurs for authorized_keys) | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:46:11] <FST777> ohadlevy: both root and the user in question can access the file | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:46:45] <ohadlevy> FST777: add a --trace and file a bug then :) | ||
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| [2010/08/19 06:47:24] <FST777> will do. in the meantime we have a bit of an issue: our set-up of 300+ servers are all running 0.25.5 :-) | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:47:29] <FiXion> where do I find a definition of the language used in puppet template files? | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:47:42] <FiXion> like f.ex. the if/ifelse/case grammatics | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:47:45] <ohadlevy> FiXion: its plain ruby | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:48:11] <ohadlevy> FST777: next time test before deployment ;) | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:48:24] <FiXion> ohadlevy: so the <%= %> equals the <?php ?> in php ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:49:09] <FST777> ohadlevy: this slipped :) everything is working perfectly well and we only see it now that we are adding a user | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:49:25] <ohadlevy> FiXion: see wiki:Puppet_Templating | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:49:26] <gepetto> ohadlevy: FiXion: wiki:Puppet_Templating is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Puppet_Templating "Puppet - Puppet Templating - Puppet Labs" | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:49:41] <FST777> during provisioning servers are running with 0.25.1 because of another issue. A typical case of too many things happening at the same time :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:50:18] <FST777> ah well. I'll file a bug :) | ||
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| [2010/08/19 06:53:27] <FiXion> ohadlevy: thanks. there's no else example. would it be <%= if ...%>output<% else %>output2<% end %> | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:53:46] <lisa> what happens if two classes have conflicting requirements? for example if one class ensures nscd is absent and another ensures it is present | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:53:59] <kjetilho> FiXion: see the diff between <% and <%= | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:54:38] <ohadlevy> FiXion: click on the ERB link inside, but generally <% if ..-%> output <%else-%>...<%end-%> | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:54:50] <ohadlevy> lisa: you get a duplicate :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:55:01] <ohadlevy> lisa: one need to inherit the other | ||
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| [2010/08/19 06:57:32] <lisa> okay | ||
| [2010/08/19 06:57:35] <FiXion> ohadlevy: thanks | ||
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| [2010/08/19 07:31:45] <madduck> oh helpful puppet | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:31:45] <madduck> err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Could not intern from pson: Duplicate definition: Site-packages::Pin_lenny_backport[munin] is already defined in file /etc/puppet/modules/production/site-packages/manifests/init.pp at line 34; cannot redefine | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:31:56] <madduck> maybe tell me where the redefinition is being tried??? | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:33:07] <madduck> not even in debug mode | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:34:31] <alcy> line 34 ! :P | ||
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| [2010/08/19 07:35:27] <madduck> alcy: yeah, that is where is should happen | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:35:29] <madduck> but where else? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 07:35:58] <madduck> and also, well, this should actually not happen since it is dependent on "if defined (Package[munin])", which is not the case on this host. | ||
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| [2010/08/19 07:36:06] <madduck> this is of course a 2.6 client talking to 0.25.5 | ||
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| [2010/08/19 07:39:54] <alcy> madduck, (someone) could help if you pastie the manifest ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:40:18] <alcy> or maybe not, depends :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:40:53] <Volcane> bah, thought facter had a default route fact | ||
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| [2010/08/19 07:44:20] <madduck> alcy: the manifest is huge | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:44:26] <madduck> alcy: i downgraded to 0.25.5 for now | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:44:32] <madduck> 2.6.x is just too broken yet | ||
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| [2010/08/19 07:44:52] <madduck> Volcane: linux does not really have a single default route anymore… | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:45:49] <alcy> madduck, wors with 0.25.5 ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:46:02] <alcy> s/wors/works | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:46:10] <madduck> yes, seems like it | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:51:01] <masterzen> madduck: you shouldn't use a newer client with an older master. this is sure to fail. Newer master supports older clients but usually not the reverse. | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:51:35] <madduck> that's just the wrong way around | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:51:48] <masterzen> why? | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:51:55] <madduck> given that one is way more likely to keep a master stable and start with upgrading clients | ||
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| [2010/08/19 07:52:16] <madduck> i suppose puppet has not heard of protocol versions yet | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:53:18] <masterzen> I could argue the reverse: it's easier to upgrade 1 master than launch an upgrade on tons of client and fix the failures by hand. Remember the master doesn't touch systems, it just compiles... | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:53:26] <aowi> I need to install a number of packages on hosts matching a certain facter fact, and not touch them on other machines. I tried with package { $packagelist: ensure => $fact ? { 'case1' => present, default => undef } } but it doesn't seem to do what I expect | ||
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| [2010/08/19 07:53:57] <aowi> specifically, it tries to install them on the host where they aren't present | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:54:10] <aowi> is there a way to achieve this effect? | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:54:47] <masterzen> Is ensure => undef a valid value? | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:55:01] <masterzen> try ensure => absent? | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:55:11] <aowi> my understanding is that it should unset the entry entirely | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:55:12] <masterzen> (I mean the default part of the selector) | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:55:28] <aowi> ensure => absent would remove the packages if they exist | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:55:49] <Volcane> if $fact == "foo" { package{".....": } } | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:55:57] <Volcane> that removes all cance for mistake | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:56:48] <aowi> mmm... true, I could do that. thanks :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:56:49] <masterzen> aowi: from the docs: valid values are present (also called installed), absent, purged, held, latest | ||
| [2010/08/19 07:57:46] <aowi> masterzen: yep, I know, but the docs also specify undef as a way of unsetting an attribute | ||
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| [2010/08/19 08:06:32] <aowi> Volcane: that worked like a charm. thanks a lot | ||
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| [2010/08/19 08:10:52] <Kaelten> node /^varnish[0-9]{0,2}$/ inherits default I have that node defninite | ||
| [2010/08/19 08:10:57] <Kaelten> definition* | ||
| [2010/08/19 08:11:01] <Kaelten> I want to inherit from it | ||
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| [2010/08/19 08:11:10] <Kaelten> what would the correct syntax for that be? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 08:17:51] <devicenull> what does "Could not retrieve information from source(s)" mean when the file exists and has the correct permissions? | ||
| [2010/08/19 08:18:47] <devicenull> it means I cant read | ||
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| [2010/08/19 08:19:20] <devicenull> "util" != "conf" | ||
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| [2010/08/19 08:39:52] <geekatcmu> Volcane is the *bomb* when it comes to figuring out ways to make things work right. | ||
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| [2010/08/19 08:40:46] <Volcane> lol, what did i say? :P | ||
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| [2010/08/19 08:57:42] <madduck> i *cannot* believe we (Debian) let 2.6 into testing *after* the freeze was issued (because it was already in unstable before the freeze) | ||
| [2010/08/19 08:57:48] <madduck> worst release decision ever. ;) | ||
| [2010/08/19 08:59:40] <madduck> i mean, there are good sides to it, of course. just not what I consider stable | ||
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| [2010/08/19 09:04:21] <jeffryh> failed to retrieve current state of resource: hostname was not match with the server certificate Could not retrieve file metadata for puppet:///suse.localhost/plugins hostname was not match with server certificate | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:04:25] <jeffryh> any idea what i'm doing wrong? | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:04:29] <jeffryh> i know somehow my cert names are messed | ||
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| [2010/08/19 09:19:55] <notbrien> why does http://pastie.org/1102325 freeze the puppet client? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 09:22:24] <geekatcmu> Because it hates you. Duh. | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:23:07] <geekatcmu> Let me guess, /data/mongodb is 2.8TB data so Puppet has to md5 it all? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 09:24:13] <notbrien> geekatcmu: huh... maybe :-0 | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:24:57] <geekatcmu> Yeah, if there's lots of data under /data/mongodb, Puppet has to check all of it. That can be ... time intensive. | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:24:58] <gilesw> elo puppetiers | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:25:17] <gilesw> i've run into a problem with a string I'm setting in puppet that contains dollars | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:25:24] <gilesw> do I need to escape them? | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:25:38] <geekatcmu> Guess. | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:25:46] <notbrien> geekatcmu: bingo! that was the problem | ||
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| [2010/08/19 09:38:58] <morpheus_> Hi@all | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:39:06] <morpheus_> I've got a question about filing bugs | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:39:49] @ Quit: bug: Quit: bug | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:40:13] <morpheus_> I think I found one so I searched the opened tickets | ||
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| [2010/08/19 09:40:52] <morpheus_> and mine was similar to http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/4279 | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:41:32] <morpheus_> so I created an account and made a comment on that opened issue because I think I already have the solution | ||
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| [2010/08/19 09:42:04] <Volcane> kewl, we were trying i think yesterday to get output from hp-ux mount command | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:42:23] <morpheus_> do I have to do anything else? Am I supposed to change the status from "needs more information" to something else | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:42:25] @ Quit: bodepd: Quit: bodepd | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:42:42] <Volcane> no i think thats it, the developers will decide if they have enough info to change the status | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:42:56] <morpheus_> I havent filed a bug before so this is pretty new to me | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:43:10] <morpheus_> ok thank you Volcane | ||
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| [2010/08/19 09:44:38] <morpheus_> Hey not really kewl. I'm the same guy | ||
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| [2010/08/19 09:44:55] <Volcane> hehe ok, well at least we can fix it now | ||
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| [2010/08/19 09:45:21] <Volcane> doubt puppetlabs have hp/ux machines lying around for testing :P | ||
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| [2010/08/19 09:51:34] <morpheus_> doesnt surprise me | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:52:00] <morpheus_> it took quite a lot of time to get ruby on this damn machines ;-) | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:55:54] <Kaelten> root@varnish01:~# puppet agent --test --server 10.37.129.3 | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:55:54] <Kaelten> err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: hostname was not match with the server certificate | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:56:17] <Volcane> Kaelten: you cant just set --server | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:56:43] <Kaelten> Volcane: elaborate please? | ||
| [2010/08/19 09:56:45] <Volcane> Kaelten: your server has a name in its certificate - puppet, puppet.domain.com and fqdn by default - and your --server has to match | ||
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| [2010/08/19 09:57:10] <Kaelten> ahhh | ||
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| [2010/08/19 09:59:13] <Kaelten> thanks volcane | ||
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| [2010/08/19 10:10:07] <Kaelten> Volcane: after running it succesffully once now I'm getting : Retrieved certificate does not match private key; please remove certificate from server and regenerate it with the current key | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:12:14] <alcy> do a puppetca --clean <clientname>. and then repeat the process | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:12:37] <Volcane> probably also clean the client side | ||
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| [2010/08/19 10:15:23] <Kaelten> I did a puppetca --clean -all on the client | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:15:37] <Kaelten> and I get Retrieved certificate does not match private key; please remove certificate from server and regenerate it with the current key | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:15:53] <Volcane> you need to do that on the server | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:16:00] <Volcane> on the client delete all files in /var/lib/puppet/ssl/* | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:17:28] <morpheus_> be carefull with clean | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:17:43] <morpheus_> I once cleaned the certificate of the puppetmaster | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:17:47] <morpheus_> Not a good idea | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:18:28] <morpheus_> I think I had the same error message and running with --debug showed certificate revoked | ||
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| [2010/08/19 10:23:51] <Guest5257> Puppet version: 0.25.4-2ubuntu6 "Lucid Ubuntu distrib x64" : Pb : Retrieving plugin ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:24:28] <Diranged> ok.. i cant re-assign a variable in the same class.. what about adding to one? my variable is an array of items.. i want to set some base items at the top of the code, and then in one or two unique situations (set up by a case statement), add to that array.. | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:24:41] <madduck> += | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:26:20] <Diranged> i get.. cannot append | ||
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| [2010/08/19 10:28:23] <Diranged> meh i got around it.. split up the node type.. | ||
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| [2010/08/19 10:36:22] <moos3> can anyone help me with this error info: /Class[main]/Class[sudo]/File[/etc/sudoers]/source: No specified sources exist | ||
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| [2010/08/19 10:36:42] <eric0> moos3: pastie the manifest... | ||
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| [2010/08/19 10:37:54] <moos3> eric0, http://pastie.org/1102452 | ||
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| [2010/08/19 10:39:26] <moos3> am I missing something? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 10:39:34] <adrianpike> Hey, does anybody have a link to a prebuilt CentOS AMI that's ready to roll with Puppet, and/or a good article on any special things that need to happen on an EC2 puppet client? | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:39:48] <adrianpike> My google-fu is weak this morning :( | ||
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| [2010/08/19 10:40:16] <alcy> moos3, remove "files" from there. puppet:///modulename/name-of-the-file is the correct syntax | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:40:27] <moos3> k | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:40:43] <alcy> provided fileserver.conf etc. haven't been messed up | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:41:10] <moos3> no everything it still commented out like it came | ||
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| [2010/08/19 10:41:42] <alcy> yeah so use the correct syntax now | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:42:22] <moos3> do i need to restart puppet and puppetmaster? | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:42:31] <Kaelten> morpheus_: yup now I'm getting "err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: SSL_connect returned=1 errno=0 state=SSLv3 read server certificate B: certificate verify failed | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:42:31] <Kaelten> " | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:43:02] <alcy> moos3, nope | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:43:48] <moos3> still getting this info: /Class[main]/Class[sudo]/File[/etc/sudoers]/source: No specified sources exist | ||
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| [2010/08/19 10:44:13] <moos3> do i need /etc under files/ | ||
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| [2010/08/19 10:44:26] <alcy> moos3 , do you have that file under modules/module-name/files ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:44:32] <moos3> yeah | ||
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| [2010/08/19 10:47:31] <alcy> what's that main class | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:47:33] <moos3> puppetd --server puppet --waitforcert 60 --verbose is how i'm testing | ||
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| [2010/08/19 10:48:39] <alcy> you shouldn't need to that everytime | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:48:45] <moos3> import sudo in modules.pp | ||
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| [2010/08/19 10:50:22] <moos3> alcy, i'm pasting modules.pp nodes.pp site.pp | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:52:10] <moos3> alcy, http://pastie.org/1102480 | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:54:20] <alcy> moos3, which version of puppet ? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 10:56:23] <moos3> puppet-0.25.5-1.el5 | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:56:39] <moos3> if i should install from source instead of rpm i can do that | ||
| [2010/08/19 10:59:19] <alcy> I don't think that's necessary | ||
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| [2010/08/19 11:01:39] <alcy> try not using filebucketing for now and see if that changes the behavior | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:01:52] <Disconnect> how do i get more info out of it than just "err: Could not run Puppet configuration client: Parameter require failed: No title provided and "File[]" is not a valid resource reference" ..? I agree, "File[]" is an invalid require. but without knowing which one it doesn't like, that isn't very helpful. | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:02:04] <jtgiri_> HI guys, I am trying to install this rpm package with puppet, here is my config http://pastebin.com/E1FVTvay , i get this error messsage : ]/Exec[/bin/sh /root/jdk.rpm]/returns: change from notrun to 0 failed: | ||
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| [2010/08/19 11:03:07] <miah> search for File[] ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:03:13] <Disconnect> cool, yaml cache ftw. but now i need to get my variables into my define :/ | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:03:15] <miah> it in general does provide exact details | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:03:21] <miah> do you have a pastie of the output of the error? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 11:03:38] <Disconnect> miah: yeah thats not as helpful as it could be. and yes - that is the error. it caches catalog, then bails with that message. | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:03:58] <miah> jtgiri_> you're executing a rpm. | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:04:29] <miah> Disconnect> pastie? | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:04:44] <jtgiri_> miah: i know, thats the only way to install it , thats how java gives it to you | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:04:48] <miah> no | ||
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| [2010/08/19 11:04:56] <miah> jtgiri_> how do you install a rpm on a host? | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:05:01] <miah> generally, you use the rpm command | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:05:20] <Disconnect> miah: ...you are seriously asking me to pastie 1 extra line? no thanks. i got it from here. | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:05:44] <miah> what i'm asking is, pastie the output, maybe there is something else you're just missing? | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:05:51] <jtgiri_> miah: true, but not this one here is output if i do it manually | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:05:52] <jtgiri_> http://pastebin.com/h2Lq1DA0 | ||
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| [2010/08/19 11:06:25] <miah> why not just extract the rpm and distribute that? | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:06:39] <jtgiri_> okay | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:06:45] <miah> and then install it the correct way | ||
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| [2010/08/19 11:06:57] <jtgiri_> correct way ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:07:01] <miah> man rpm | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:07:06] <moos3> alcy, heres what i get now err: Could not run Puppet::Network::Client::Master: Could not find filebucket main at /etc/puppet/modules/sudo/manifests/init.pp:9 is complaining about a } | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:07:08] <jtgiri_> okay , got ya | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:08:18] <alcy> moos3, seems filebucket is still enabled ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:08:51] <jtgiri_> miah: actually that script does everything for you, http://pastebin.com/PSJ7aidy | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:09:03] <jtgiri_> its installs it after expanding it | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:09:14] <jtgiri_> but i will doing it manually | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:09:19] <jtgiri_> there are like 5 rpms | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:09:35] <moos3> alcy, i even stop and start the puppet processes | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:09:40] <miah> ah | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:12:01] <lwhalen> anyone up for a straight-up ruby question? | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:12:30] <lwhalen> it's quick question about looping through some output, and regex-capturing stuff to an array (for a Facter fact, so it's still topical): | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:12:39] <lwhalen> http://www.pastie.org/1102522 | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:13:01] <lwhalen> after that .each block, I'll be "doing stuff" with the strings in the "ldapservers" array, I just don't know the optimal way to populate "ldapservers" | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:13:49] <alcy> moos3, well go through the docs (again), if you haven't already. | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:14:45] <moos3> yeah i have | ||
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| [2010/08/19 11:16:37] <benkevan> what do you think the best way to handle this is: I want to upload passwd to a server (specific location).. should I use file bucket to "back it up" and copy over the most recent version (how do I get the MD5? or just do a find of files created in the last 1 day?) basically I collect all the passwd's from all the servers in one location, so that I can check / verify that all people have unique UID's (yes.. still using local passwd, although I'm hopi | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:17:23] <benkevan> is puppet the best way to do this? or should I just use a stasher script, and just set the ssh keys from the clients, to the said target server? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 11:25:33] <jeffryh> can a puppet file source something other then pupet:/// ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:25:38] <jeffryh> like http ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:28:28] <jeffryh> where can I get a list of all the puppet providers? | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:29:11] <benkevan> jeffryh: either puppetdoc or most reliably is the puppet wiki | ||
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| [2010/08/19 11:32:04] <benkevan> how can I utilize puppet to look for a single line in a file, and if it doesn't exist then append it? I'm looking at this for sshd_config and the Protocol 2 options.. I don't want to have the same sshd_config for everyone, since SLES / RHEL will be different (due to different locations of sftp-server) (and sles being different for each arch).. | ||
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| [2010/08/19 11:35:59] <brett_h> is it possible to get a list of all nodes with a certain class applied inside of a template? for example, you have 10 nodes and 3 have class web applied; what's the best way to <% for node in webnodes %> without declaring them in multiple places? | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:36:45] * lwhalen listens closely to any possible answer to brett_h's question | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:36:55] <lwhalen> that would be awesome if it was implemented | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:37:14] <brett_h> hehe :) | ||
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| [2010/08/19 11:38:01] <brett_h> I just want to be able to apply web to a node in the future and have templates (for example) reflect the knowledge of that node | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:38:05] <brett_h> say, for iptables rules or something | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:38:18] <brett_h> if there is a better way I'm all ears | ||
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| [2010/08/19 11:39:08] <lwhalen> I *think* that because templates are compiled client-side, that might not be possible. I freely admit that I might be wrong on that though | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:39:12] <lwhalen> I would *love* to be wrong on that | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:40:19] <brett_h> oh, do clients not have access to see what other nodes classes/etc are? | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:40:24] <brett_h> I'm pretty new to puppet, obviously | ||
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| [2010/08/19 11:42:57] <pheezy> Anyone here using 2.6? We're working on an external node classifier and wondering how parameterized classes and hashes fit in, as the documentation on PL states only classes and parameters are supported... | ||
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| [2010/08/19 11:45:19] <benkevan> pheezy: I am.. but I have no idea what you just said | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:45:31] <pheezy> :> | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:46:42] <ReinH> pheezy: so would everyone else ;) | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:46:53] <pheezy> hah! | ||
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| [2010/08/19 11:47:05] <pheezy> hey i haven't forgotten about that puppetdashboard module yet ReinH, fyi | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:47:09] <ReinH> :D | ||
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| [2010/08/19 11:52:10] <Kaelten> I seem to have bricked myself: http://grab.by/5YZI | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:54:04] <agaffney> Kaelten: what do the logs on the puppetmaster say? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 11:56:10] <Kaelten> agaffney: nothing | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:56:21] <Kaelten> I ran a puppetca --clean --all on the pmaster | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:56:31] <Kaelten> and that broke it | ||
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| [2010/08/19 11:57:12] <benkevan> Kaelten: ah.. yah.. that revokes the server license too | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:57:26] <Kaelten> how do I rebuild it? | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:57:31] <moos3> this error makes not sense info: /Class[main]/Class[sudo]/File[/etc/sudoers]/source: No specified sources exist | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:58:30] <agaffney> Kaelten: restart the puppetmaster, and it should regenerate its certificate | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:58:42] <Kaelten> hrm it didn't for some reason | ||
| [2010/08/19 11:58:53] <Kaelten> but when I moved /var/lib/puppet it seems to have recreated everything | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:01:44] <Kaelten> can you specify the ssldir when running via command line? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 12:26:12] <jeffryh> anyone have suggestions for keeping large files in sync with puppet? | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:26:56] <hal-j> puppet 2.6 is supposed to be better at it, but you may still be better with rsync, or nfs, or a combination of the two | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:27:00] <Volcane> 2.6.x will be better | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:27:04] <Volcane> for before that, rsync | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:27:23] <viewlogic> jeffryh, glusterfs | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:27:45] <jeffryh> i just need to really download a few isos | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:27:45] <hal-j> to be fair though, for a large enough set of large files, you're probably best off without puppet regardless | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:27:50] <jeffryh> i mean i could just do wget | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:27:54] <hal-j> not better off without it entirely, but for the actual syncing | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:28:09] <jeffryh> its just that wget doesn't care if the file changed | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:28:18] <hal-j> rsync :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:28:20] <moos3> can you use puppet for windows desktop and server deployments? | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:28:25] <Volcane> hal-j: yeah i would say use puppet to install a cronjob for rsync or whatever | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:28:34] <hal-j> agreed | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:28:44] <hal-j> or even just exec the rsync, but it'll bog down the rest of the puppeting | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:28:54] <Volcane> hal-j: bit fragile | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:29:15] <Volcane> for things that must happen, there are mature schedulars | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:29:20] <Volcane> puppets a configuration management system | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:29:29] <Volcane> use it to configure systems built for that purpose | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:29:34] <jeffryh> the isos will only really be rolled out during an imaging process, no need for a cron | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:29:42] <jeffryh> ssh keys are the issue with rsync | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:30:24] <lisa> what is best practice with yumrepo with regard to third party repositories and their own GPG keys? | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:31:12] <Kiloman> I tend to install the key in /etc/pki/rpm-gpg and then just refer to the file:// URL in the gpgkey setting | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:31:56] <tmz> lisa: Don't know about best practice, but I either install the repos *-release package via one of my local repos or manage the gpg key via a file resource. | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:31:57] <Kiloman> but even the centos guys IIRC are on the fence as to whether it's more secure to refer to a local copy or a copy on the server with the repo | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:32:20] <Kiloman> depends on whether you trust your local machine or the web server holding the repo more | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:32:26] <hal-j> jeffry: what's the ssh key issue? | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:32:58] <tmz> Kiloman: Unless yum is checking the ssl cert (and the key is being served via ssl), using the web version is much less likely to be secure. | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:33:53] <Kiloman> tmz: possibly | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:33:59] <Kiloman> if you're worried about MITM | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:34:24] <Kiloman> but if what you're worried about is someone installing bad packages on your machine and switching the GPG key... | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:34:28] <lisa> our internal yum repo is served only over https and each package is signed | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:34:44] <lisa> but it's convenient to just use third party repos for a bunch of things :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:34:57] <Volcane> till they go down :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:35:01] <Naresh> https :o | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:35:26] <lisa> yeah yeah | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:35:33] <Kiloman> yeah the discussion I'm remembering was about the centos core repos | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:35:37] <lisa> it is tempting to grab the remote RPMs and put them in our repo | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:35:57] <Kiloman> and whether the -release package should install a repo file referring to the central web server or the local key | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:36:08] <lisa> but that is a LOT of RPMs :( | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:36:09] <Kiloman> and since centos doesn't use HTTPS for their repos... | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:36:38] * Volcane always keep local repo copies, disk is cheaper than explaining to $bossdude that you cant install machines cos some thirdparty screwed their dns and you cant resolve their repo servers | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:37:16] <lisa> heh | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:37:53] <Volcane> had to do that once, was enough | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:38:01] <Volcane> relied too heavily on jpackage | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:39:06] <hal-j> plus local repo is faster, controllable, maintained, guaranteed to be there when you need it | ||
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| [2010/08/19 12:42:55] <moos3> so how often does puppet pull configuration updates | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:43:05] <Volcane> moos3: 30 min by default | ||
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| [2010/08/19 12:44:28] <moos3> Volcane, can i set that to say 10 minutes or so | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:45:10] <Volcane> moos3: you can but its quite a resource intgensive process both on client and the server that serves | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:45:58] <moos3> i'm testing in our test enovironment and want to make sure changes populate | ||
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| [2010/08/19 12:48:54] <leini> morning | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:49:41] <carlasouza> morning | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:49:47] <Volcane> moos3: i run 100+ servers on a 10 minute interval, but i have a big master | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:49:51] <leini> whats this here | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:49:57] <Volcane> moos3: so its not impossible, just resource intensive | ||
| [2010/08/19 12:50:42] <moos3> we have a deployment server that dedicated to it so i'm not worried about resources | ||
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| [2010/08/19 13:10:49] <moos3> Volcane, can i have a module that has a bunch of files ? ie like we have a bash script that copies a bunch of files i would like to move it to puppet but dont want to make a bunch of modules | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:13:27] <Volcane> yes | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:13:35] <Volcane> I have a 'common' module for such stuff | ||
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| [2010/08/19 13:16:53] <moos3> how is that structured? | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:17:23] <Volcane> modules/common/files/<all your files how ever makes sense> | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:17:37] <moos3> yeah but in the manifest | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:17:53] <Volcane> source => "puppet:///modules/common/bash/foo.sh" | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:18:00] <moos3> can i just have many files { | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:18:01] <Volcane> modules/common/files/bash/foo.sh | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:18:21] <Volcane> if you are on a recent version you could recursively copy out if its not big files | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:19:09] <moos3> yeah its just bashrc inputrc yum.repos.d profile and profile.d/alaises.sh | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:19:28] <Volcane> http://pastie.org/1102850 is a kind of shorthand | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:19:41] <Volcane> an alternative is to write a little utility define | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:20:11] <moos3> Volcane, thanks that answers my q | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:20:46] <Volcane> np | ||
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| [2010/08/19 13:30:23] <benkevan> Volcane: I'm doing that in something called "scripts" (since it's just copying down scripts) .. guess I should have named it something a little better.. on the other hand.. is there a good method of "uploading them" into a location that isn't in the md5 hash? | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:31:04] <Kiloman> benkevan: are you just wanting to not have puppet hash them every time? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 13:31:36] <benkevan> Kiloman: well.. only on certain files (ie passwd) which I upload to a central location, and have a script that looks for non unqie uid's etc | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:33:02] <benkevan> Kiloman: currently I have a "stasher" script, that uploads the said files.. but I'd like to move the functionality into puppet (then just transfer the said files that were uploaded to the said server) | ||
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| [2010/08/19 13:33:19] <Kiloman> you can have puppet manage a directory recursively | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:33:39] <Kiloman> put all the scripts into a module's files dir, and have it push them out | ||
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| [2010/08/19 13:33:43] <benkevan> really all i want to upload at this point is passwd.. :o) | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:33:53] <Kiloman> use mtime checksum instead of md5 if you're doing a lot | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:33:58] <benkevan> oh.. but I want puppet agents to upload to server.. | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:34:04] <benkevan> hummmmm.. | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:34:15] <Kiloman> oh you want it to pull off the client and push them back into the repository? | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:34:22] <benkevan> yes.. :o) | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:34:28] <blkwolf> subversion or git may work better for that | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:34:31] <Kiloman> that's kind of backwards from how puppet does things | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:34:41] <benkevan> Kiloman: agreed.. | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:34:59] <benkevan> I think I'll just continue using stasher script, and just use puppet for the cron / ssh keys | ||
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| [2010/08/19 13:35:44] <Volcane> benkevan: well puppet isnt bad at files in general, i have machines copying over 1k files | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:35:51] * benkevan now to figure out the whole SSH structure of puppet.. | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:36:03] <benkevan> Volcane: clients copying to puppet in non filebucket? that's my problem | ||
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| [2010/08/19 13:36:41] * Volcane thnks if you need client files into another system that system should fetch and it should probably be a backups system | ||
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| [2010/08/19 13:36:52] <benkevan> we (regretfully) still use local passwd for authentication here, so I upload them all to one place, so I have scripts to find duplicate UID's etc.. so I need the passwd to be uploaded as changed, or at least at a schedule | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:37:10] <Volcane> ah, nasty | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:37:13] <benkevan> Volcane: yeah.. I guess I can do a pull, instead of a push.. | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:37:44] <Kiloman> in that case you might use puppet to manage SSH keys for the pull, and a cronjob for the actual execution... but not for the file management | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:38:03] <benkevan> but I have the stash in place already from clients.. to said server.. (yeah. I know.. it's quite retarded :() .. I "inhereted" this environment .. once I start implementing puppet, then I can move onto different things like krb for authorization and ldap for authentication | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:38:22] <Volcane> yeah | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:38:37] <Volcane> well whatever works for you, puppets a framework | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:38:45] <benkevan> Kiloman: that's what I'm thinking.. BUT I don't think the pulling server will be part of puppet (I don't manage the Unix boxes, only the Linux).. and the repository is part of the "Unix" team.. | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:39:01] <Volcane> but i think there are some general approaches to strive for that will make everything work better - as long as you have that as a target | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:39:07] <benkevan> guess I will continue using push, but use puppet to add the said ssh keys.. now just to figure out how the f to do that | ||
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| [2010/08/19 13:40:53] <benkevan> example42.com seems to be down ;( | ||
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| [2010/08/19 13:53:31] <benkevan> would someone be willing to show me their ssh modules :( .. | ||
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| [2010/08/19 13:54:05] <Naresh> benkevan: http://forge.puppetlabs.com/modules?q=ssh | ||
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| [2010/08/19 13:57:24] <benkevan> Hummm.. I think I need to understand types.. which is what some of those seem to use to manage the sshd_config | ||
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| [2010/08/19 13:59:47] <Volcane> benkevan: you've copied a file before? like file{"/etc/ssh/sshd_config":....} thats the file type | ||
| [2010/08/19 13:59:57] <Volcane> benkevan: all types work the same syntax wise, its just hte properties that chnage | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:00:13] <Volcane> there isnt a native type to manage sshd_config though, so just copy the file out | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:01:59] <justdave> is it possible to have node {} definitions in a module? | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:02:55] <justdave> I'd think that'd be part of manifests, does it just automatically parse any that exist in a module? | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:03:05] <blkwolf> like | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:03:06] <blkwolf> case $hostname { | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:03:06] <blkwolf> afsc-s40: { | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:03:08] <blkwolf> ? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 14:10:55] <benkevan> Volcane: yeah.. but SLES has sftp path different per arch.. (doh!).. oh .. but that should be easy.. sles => "puppet:///ssh/sshd_config.sles.$architecture", | ||
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| [2010/08/19 14:12:56] <moos3> can puppet make symlinks? | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:14:40] <mackn> yes | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:15:34] <Kiloman> file { '/path/to/link': ensure => '/path/to/actual/file' } | ||
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| [2010/08/19 14:20:49] <moos3> nice what about executing scripts | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:21:07] <mackn> have you read the docs yet? :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:21:21] <Kiloman> seriously | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:21:38] <Kiloman> go read the type list documentation and then come back with any questions | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:22:17] <moos3> k | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:23:04] <mrwacky421> But for the record, this is the preferred way: file { '/path/to/link': ensure => link, target => '/path/to/actual/file' } | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:23:35] <moos3> mrwacky421, thanks | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:23:59] <Kiloman> somebody should take the other way out of the docs then | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:24:09] <Kiloman> there are two examples of the non-preferred way in the type doc | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:24:10] <mrwacky421> (according to the puppetlabs best practices) | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:24:18] <Kiloman> and no examples of the right way | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:24:51] <Kiloman> actually it doesn't mention the 'link' value at all | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:25:07] <Kiloman> ensure: Whether to create files that don’t currently exist. Possible values are absent, present, file, and directory. | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:25:38] <Kiloman> mrwacky421: where is ensure => link documented? | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:27:35] <mrwacky421> Kiloman: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Style_Guide | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:28:04] <mrwacky421> to be sure: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Style_Guide#Symlinks | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:28:37] <mrwacky421> s/best practices/style guide/ | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:28:45] <mrwacky421> and yes, I agree, that it's poorly documented. | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:29:00] <Kiloman> huh | ||
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| [2010/08/19 14:33:07] <proprietarysucks> what's up with this error message | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:33:19] <proprietarysucks> Could not retrieve selinux: Invalid argument - /proc/self/attr/current | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:33:32] <proprietarysucks> happens 4 times when trying to check in with puppet | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:34:56] <Volcane> thats just facter trying to figure something out it cant figure out | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:35:08] <proprietarysucks> safe to ignores? | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:35:16] <Volcane> yes | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:35:20] <proprietarysucks> the issue here is that it's a crontask, which has stdout going to null | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:35:30] <proprietarysucks> so I'll be getting alerts about this forever basically | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:36:05] <Volcane> so stderr to null as well | ||
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| [2010/08/19 14:36:15] <proprietarysucks> then I won't get alerts on actual failures | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:36:52] <Volcane> heh | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:36:54] <Volcane> file a bug then | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:36:55] <Volcane> :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:37:12] <Whoop> Is that error message def an error message? I only get that as a notice? | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:37:14] <Volcane> 2>&1 |grep -v attr/current :P | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:37:17] <proprietarysucks> it's probably old versions of everything involved | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:37:30] <proprietarysucks> Volcane: like I said 1 is going to dev null | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:37:44] <proprietarysucks> otherwise it defeats the purpose again, since cron will email me with any output | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:37:58] <proprietarysucks> well anyways.. | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:38:05] <proprietarysucks> I'll think about this one | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:38:21] <Whoop> Any reason for not using puppets built in reporting functionality? | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:38:30] <proprietarysucks> what do you mean | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:38:38] @ Quit: littleidea: Quit: littleidea | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:38:43] <Whoop> I mean puppet handles its own reporting and can email to you? | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:39:04] <Whoop> rather than getting cron to email you | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:39:07] <Whoop> get puppet to email you itself | ||
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| [2010/08/19 14:40:17] <Naresh> just how much of an improvement would i get by moving away from the default webrick server? | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:40:31] <ReinH> proprietarysucks: Puppet has an email processor for reports, though be aware that this will be a LOT of emails. | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:40:34] <Whoop> If you have more than one node, a huge amount Naresh | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:40:37] <Naresh> every other run I get a ' err: Could not retrieve catalog; skipping run' | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:40:55] <Whoop> webrick can only deal with one request a ta time | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:40:57] <Naresh> what would you suggest i move to? | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:40:57] <ReinH> Naresh: webrick is not capable of handling significant load | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:40:59] <Whoop> its built for development not production | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:41:03] <ReinH> Naresh: mongrel or passenger | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:41:06] <Whoop> Either mongrel or passenger | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:41:10] <ReinH> Whoop: I win | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:41:11] <Whoop> ^ what he said :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:41:15] <ReinH> ;) | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:41:42] <ReinH> webrick is the default because it comes with Ruby, meaning we don't have to add a dependency | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:41:49] <Naresh> hm | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:41:57] <ReinH> but for non-trivial puppet installs, it's good to get off of it ASAP | ||
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| [2010/08/19 14:42:03] <Naresh> oh | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:42:04] <ReinH> there's good docs for switching to passenger | ||
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| [2010/08/19 14:42:11] * Naresh adds this to priority log | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:42:15] <proprietarysucks> what I want is 1 email for every node failure | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:42:27] <proprietarysucks> I do use foreman for reporting | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:42:28] <Whoop> proprietarysucks: puppet reporting does that | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:42:30] <proprietarysucks> not sure what else you mean | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:42:46] <proprietarysucks> I'll check into it | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:42:56] <Whoop> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/latest/report.html#tagmail | ||
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| [2010/08/19 14:46:32] <blkwolf> are there any good tutorials for installing passenger? | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:47:01] <Volcane> the one on the wiki is good | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:48:39] <proprietarysucks> is this talking about auth.conf ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:49:18] <proprietarysucks> it doesn't actually say anywhere what file you're supposed to be putting this stuff in | ||
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| [2010/08/19 14:49:45] <proprietarysucks> and it also just seems to tell you about these tags but not where to put them or anything | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:49:51] <proprietarysucks> let me look around for some better examples | ||
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| [2010/08/19 14:50:11] <dmreiland> Question: is it possible to use arrays in custom facts, or do I need to use the join method to have them appear properly? | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:50:36] <Volcane> yeah facter only does strings as values | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:50:42] <dmreiland> lovely | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:50:54] <dmreiland> Volcane: as always, thanks | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:50:58] <Volcane> np | ||
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| [2010/08/19 14:56:33] <proprietarysucks> oh I see. this needs to be args to the puppetmasterd | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:56:38] <proprietarysucks> and then you tell the client just to report | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:57:44] <ReinH> proprietarysucks: configuration values for the puppet master, yes | ||
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| [2010/08/19 14:57:53] <ReinH> either as flags to the executable or in your puppet.conf | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:58:04] @ Quit: adrian_broher: Quit: Verlassend | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:58:07] <Kiloman> question about tagmail | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:58:25] <Kiloman> if I want to get error messages from the client | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:58:32] <Kiloman> do I need to deploy tagmail to each node | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:58:40] <Kiloman> or do they log back to the master? | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:59:24] <ReinH> Kiloman: it's a processor on the master | ||
| [2010/08/19 14:59:30] <ReinH> the nodes just have to report normally (report=true) | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:00:22] <proprietarysucks> yeah I get that | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:00:23] <Kiloman> what's the default for that, if it's not in puppet.conf on the nodes | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:00:29] <proprietarysucks> the nodes just tell all | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:00:43] <proprietarysucks> you tell master what to do with all that data | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:00:56] <proprietarysucks> I'm trying to figure out the tagmail.conf right now myself | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:03:51] <proprietarysucks> it seems to be saying there would be tags | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:04:07] <proprietarysucks> the only thing I see on each line is like (info) or (err) for example | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:04:25] <proprietarysucks> I guess what I'm getting at is how do I just say 'email me errors and nothing else' | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:07:11] <proprietarysucks> it doesn't even look like this is possible | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:07:20] <proprietarysucks> I feel like you've led me astray | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:11:29] <adrianpike> can somebody point me in the right direction as to how a client (say, an EC2 node booting up) can tell the server what class it's supposed to be, without working off the hostname? | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:11:52] <mackn> you can declare a hostname to use | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:12:09] <mackn> if that'll help | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:13:05] <adrianpike> mackn: will puppetmaster flip out if it sees four or five of the same hostnames? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:14:00] <mackn> hrmm..dunno..i assume if the ssl cert is all in order :) (like.. they all have the same cert ) | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:14:08] <mackn> it might work | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:14:28] <adrianpike> ideally, I'd like to be able to kick off an ec2 node, in the userdata say "you're an app node", and through puppet it'll get a rails install working, grab down the current DB hostnames, and add itself to the list of app nodes, that the load balancer will start forwarding to on it's next config update | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:15:42] <Volcane> adrianpike: --node_name might help | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:15:59] <Volcane> you would probably need a fact or something though telling it its role | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:16:09] <adrianpike> Volcane: investigating, thanks for the tip | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:16:33] <adrianpike> hmm, this actually might be perfect | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:16:47] <adrianpike> ideally it would be awesome if i could have the node's hostname change through puppet too | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:17:13] <adrianpike> it's no big deal if it's just cname'd to the amazon one, but for less headaches and having to cross-reference it would be slick | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:19:36] <Volcane> using a classifier reading a fact is to figure out the role is probably the sanest | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:19:53] <Volcane> and just embrace the shitty hostnames, rather than fight it :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:20:05] <adrianpike> heh | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:20:25] <adrianpike> knock on wood i'll never have to actually ssh in anymore to de-fsck a host :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:20:38] <Volcane> why de-fsck a host? | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:20:49] <Volcane> reboot it, automagically rebuilt and un-fscked | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:20:59] <Volcane> i mean recreate it, not reboot obviously | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:21:20] <darkfade1> because unix is when you can fix it | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:21:23] <darkfade1> *ducks* | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:21:40] <Volcane> :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:21:51] <Volcane> with a smooth build process its *much* faster to just not debug things :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:22:06] <darkfade1> yeah | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:22:22] <darkfade1> i'd so love to show you a mail i got yesterday | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:22:27] <adrianpike> while we're dreaming, I want a pony | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:22:53] <darkfade1> one of the head admins explaining why certain less important details might just now not be in config management | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:23:11] <Volcane> http://mcollective.blip.tv/file/3876576/ <-- automagic unattened ec2+puppet builds :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:23:16] <darkfade1> i edited it to be full of rainbow coloured highlights | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:23:27] <Volcane> darkfade1: html email fail :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:24:01] <darkfade1> it was like 15 expressions like "currently" ... "roughly" "not yet" ... | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:24:23] <darkfade1> we found out they put /etc/exports in config management on about 5 systems out of 240 | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:24:30] <Volcane> heh | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:24:44] <darkfade1> "a few might not be in /etc/exports yet" | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:24:47] <darkfade1> grrr. | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:24:49] <Volcane> time to apply some natural selection :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:24:57] <darkfade1> yeah, done that | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:25:05] <darkfade1> i selected myself a new job | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:25:18] <Volcane> heh | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:26:40] <darkfade1> ah i'd need audio with the ec2 vid? | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:28:39] <Volcane> darkfade1: probably but there's a blog post that migth explain it well enough http://www.devco.net/archives/2010/07/14/bootstrapping_puppet_on_ec2_with_mcollective.php | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:29:53] <darkfade1> Volcane: i'll watch it later on laptop instead | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:30:46] <Volcane> darkfade1: and http://www.devco.net/archives/2010/07/29/making_machine_meta_data_visible.php for your hostname hate | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:31:12] <darkfade1> thanks | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:34:06] <synack-> I'm trying to define a variable containing a list of strings using an external node tool... any idea what the syntax for that is in the "parameters:" section? | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:34:09] <synack-> eg. | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:34:21] <synack-> my_list_variable: "item1","item2","item3" | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:34:28] <synack-> or am I completely wrong | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:34:36] <proprietarysucks> I can't understand what logic is being followed by making a whole email reporting system for tags and not allowing error reporting | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:35:04] <proprietarysucks> that's like making a web server that doesn't allow for downloads of static files | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:35:21] <proprietarysucks> just makes no sense to me at all | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:35:23] <Volcane> synack-: its YAML, so probably something like - item1\n- item2\n- item 3 | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:35:28] <proprietarysucks> frustrating grahr | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:35:54] <synack-> hmm... ok | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:35:59] <Volcane> proprietarysucks: what errors you after? | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:36:09] <proprietarysucks> any errors | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:36:13] <proprietarysucks> no nodes should ever error | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:36:36] <Volcane> so failing resources etc? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:38:08] <Volcane> it *seems* errors get tagged with a specifc tag | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:38:32] <proprietarysucks> anything with the word (err) in it | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:38:51] <proprietarysucks> although ironically this error doesn't have that | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:39:08] <proprietarysucks> presumably since it's a facter error: Could not retrieve selinux: Invalid argument - /proc/self/attr/current | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:39:46] <proprietarysucks> you've encountered this before Volcane | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:39:48] <proprietarysucks> http://pelin.lovedthanlost.net/puppet/%23puppet-2009-12-07.log.html | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:39:59] <proprietarysucks> search 17:08:04 | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:40:06] <Volcane> yeah this isnt an error in puppet even | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:40:11] <proprietarysucks> in fact it's the only google entry for this | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:40:14] <Volcane> run facter and you'll see the same | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:40:19] <proprietarysucks> I know this | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:40:24] <Volcane> so puppet wont be reporting that | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:40:28] <proprietarysucks> however it still happens when puppet checks in | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:40:30] <Volcane> its blissfully unaware | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:40:41] <proprietarysucks> yeah | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:40:47] <Volcane> there's nothing being sent to puppet telling it there's an error | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:40:54] <proprietarysucks> but now that I've set up this emailing, I might as well get it doing something I actually care about | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:41:01] <proprietarysucks> which is email the errors that it does know about | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:41:04] <Volcane> heh | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:41:10] <proprietarysucks> right now I'm just getting everything | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:41:24] <Volcane> well you can tagmail for tag err | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:41:27] <Volcane> that should do it | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:41:29] <proprietarysucks> so if you look at this example here: Thu Aug 19 15:40:12 -0700 2010 Filebucket[/var/lib/puppet/clientbucket] (info): Adding /root/.bashrc(aa7c657bb822827a73198c73238b5dd4) | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:41:37] <Volcane> but not for this error | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:41:40] <proprietarysucks> error lines have (err) instead of (info) | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:41:50] <Volcane> they are also tagged with 'err' | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:41:50] <proprietarysucks> is this tagged inherently? you're saying yes | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:41:57] <proprietarysucks> ok thanks I'll try | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:42:28] <Volcane> proprietarysucks: #1089 | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:42:28] <gepetto> Volcane: proprietarysucks: #1089 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/1089 "Puppet - Feature #1089: Log messages should get tagged with their log level - Puppet Labs" | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:42:37] <Volcane> it tags each line with the level logged at | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:43:17] <Volcane> certain errors though - like compile errors without a cache wont send reports though as a bonus :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:43:35] <Volcane> i think tht might be fixed in 2.6 | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:44:38] <proprietarysucks> so basically I have to choose between missing some errors and constantly seeing some false errors from now on | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:44:47] <proprietarysucks> awesome | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:44:53] <Volcane> :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:45:00] <Volcane> how many machines are you monitoring with tagmail? | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:45:14] <proprietarysucks> yesterday <7 | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:45:16] <Volcane> cos i cant imagine how much this must suck on more than 5 :P | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:45:24] <proprietarysucks> today ~ 15 | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:45:31] <proprietarysucks> by tomorrow night ~60 | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:45:40] <proprietarysucks> and by next weekend about 150 | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:46:06] <Volcane> run with --summarize, redirect everything to a file | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:46:10] <Volcane> and parse the file with monitoring | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:46:38] <Volcane> cos really, if u make a mistake in a manifest you do not want 150 machines tagmailing you surely? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:46:57] <proprietarysucks> I have a dev and production environment of manifests and modules | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:46:57] <adrianpike> Volcane: i like the attention personally | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:47:38] <Volcane> proprietarysucks: shit always happens, having monitoring alerting once every 2 hours beats tons of mails every x minutes by miles :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:48:10] <Volcane> someone at $client sent out a very innocent update, was peer reviewed everyting was sweet | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:48:13] <Volcane> it was friday | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:48:16] <Volcane> it even didnt break | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:48:26] <Volcane> friday night the apache's restarted, things got weir | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:48:34] <Volcane> 50 machines sent a mail to a DL every minute :P | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:48:55] <Volcane> by monday desktop support was ready to kil everyone cos all the outlooks were dead dead dead | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:49:04] <Volcane> wouldnt open mailboxes etc | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:49:27] <proprietarysucks> so anyways | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:49:32] <BarnacleBob> thats always fun | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:49:37] <proprietarysucks> what about this report method save | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:49:57] <BarnacleBob> so everytime i change checksum=> for a file resource i'm getting this: err: Could not run Puppet configuration client: Parameter content failed: Munging failed for value "#This cron.d job is controlled by puppet\n48 * * * * root /nail/sys/bin/puppetrun 60\n" in class content: undefined method `mtime' for #<Puppet::Type::File::Content:0x7fe7ae6ea850> | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:50:01] <hal-j> gotta love when your monitoring causes more damage, when things are already whacky | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:50:04] <Volcane> now we never let crons mail, we log and monitor and report on aggregate, this is the only sane thing for monitoring stuff like this for puppet too | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:50:06] <adrianpike> Volcane: the best one I ever had was when I was working for an SMS company, and one of the new devs was load testing. He thought the gateway was in test mode. Turns out iphones crash *hard* if you stuff a bunch of sms'es their way. | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:50:08] <proprietarysucks> PUPPETMASTER_EXTRA_OPTS="--reports puppet_dashboard,tagmail,store,rrdgraph,log" | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:50:52] <proprietarysucks> I just basically crammed every option I could find in there | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:51:00] <proprietarysucks> but would store or log allow for this parsing? | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:51:42] <Volcane> hal-j: http://pastie.org/1103142 :) monitoring MUCH more resource intensive than what its monitoring heh | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:51:59] <Volcane> proprietarysucks: some failures wont send reports is all i am saying :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:52:10] <proprietarysucks> honestly I think I'm just going to tell the other tech team to add a filter to block this 1 email and be done with it | ||
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| [2010/08/19 15:53:56] <Volcane> proprietarysucks: it is also possible to send STDOUT to null and grep STDERR reporting only what you didnt grep out of STDERR | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:54:15] <proprietarysucks> hmm how | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:54:27] <Volcane> proprietarysucks: crazy redirects, google it i cant remember that stuff off the cuff | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:54:41] <Volcane> but its possible :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:54:50] <hal-j> wheee | ||
| [2010/08/19 15:55:27] <proprietarysucks> alright let me ask grey | ||
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| [2010/08/19 16:04:24] <Volcane> facter 3>&1 1>/dev/null 2>&3|grep -v Invalid | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:04:25] <Volcane> :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:04:31] <Volcane> discards stdout | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:04:34] <Volcane> greps stderr | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:04:38] <Volcane> shows whats left | ||
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| [2010/08/19 16:05:50] <BarnacleBob> er | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:06:07] <Volcane> so you can grep out your facter errors, leaving just the puppet ones | ||
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| [2010/08/19 16:07:26] <BarnacleBob> you can probably do facter 2>&1 >/dev/null actually | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:07:38] <Volcane> thats not what he wants | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:07:51] <Volcane> he wants to grep out some stuff from STDERR and discard STDOUT | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:07:51] <ReinH> Volcane: don't forget to close it: 3>&- | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:08:20] <BarnacleBob> yeah but the & doesn't alias it assigns the value of what that one points at | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:09:12] <Volcane> well it seems to work, i did say i dont remember it 100% :P | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:09:27] <ReinH> :) | ||
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| [2010/08/19 16:09:44] <Volcane> and really cant be arsed to read man pages at 12:10 am :P | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:09:52] <ReinH> facter 2>&1 >&3 3>&- | grep -v Invalid 3>&- | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:09:54] <ReinH> :D | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:10:04] <ReinH> fucking file descriptors, how do they work? etc | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:10:10] @ Quit: spacex: Quit: Leaving. | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:10:11] <Volcane> yeah quite :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:10:12] <BarnacleBob> lol | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:10:46] <Volcane> ReinH: yours defo doesnt do it for me | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:10:51] <ReinH> Volcane: hmm | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:11:05] <Volcane> it just returns me real quick, quicker than facter with no output | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:11:27] <Volcane> anyway, proprietarysucks better file a facter bug after all this :P | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:11:41] <ReinH> well, if you don't care about stdout, can't you just close it? | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:13:19] <Volcane> yeah tried that, resorted to sending it to devnull in the end cos i didnt want to read how it really works | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:14:00] <ReinH> Volcane: you're right, but this does work: exec 3>&1; ls foo 2>&1 >&3 3>&- | grep 'foo' 3>&1 | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:14:08] <ReinH> woops | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:14:10] <ReinH> Volcane: you're right, but this does work: exec 3>&1; ls foo 2>&1 >&3 3>&- | grep 'foo' 3>&- | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:14:28] <Volcane> heh | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:14:35] <ReinH> but then you have to remember to close it after | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:14:38] <ReinH> exec 3>&- | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:14:43] <Volcane> yeah screw that | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:14:44] <ReinH> oh wait I did that | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:14:50] * ReinH facepalms | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:14:52] <ReinH> srsly | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:14:53] <Volcane> he was running in cron, the process will die :P | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:14:54] <ReinH> nfi | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:14:59] <ReinH> ah, fair | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:15:10] <Volcane> awesome gc | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:15:13] <ReinH> yeah srsly | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:15:15] <ReinH> best evr | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:15:21] * BarnacleBob stabs puppet | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:15:44] <ReinH> Volcane: I just finished writing a script to run a facter command in two different versions and output a unified diff of the... output | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:15:48] <ReinH> in bash | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:15:57] <BarnacleBob> so seems when you set the checksum=> for a file type it tries to call object.thattype but mtime doesn't exist | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:16:11] <ReinH> Volcane: http://gist.github.com/536194 | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:16:34] <Volcane> ReinH: you can always spot the people who dont earn money by the hour :P | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:16:40] <ReinH> Volcane: there's a ticket :p | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:16:44] <Volcane> heh | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:16:56] <ReinH> srsly | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:17:16] * Volcane founds many facter 1.5.1 machines today :( | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:17:20] <ReinH> ah shell argument handling, you are so awesome | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:17:27] <ReinH> o_O | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:18:31] <ReinH> Volcane: https://gist.github.com/1e95ea1af5399b8847c0 | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:18:32] <ReinH> :D | ||
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| [2010/08/19 16:19:04] <Volcane> thats nice | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:19:11] <ReinH> why thank you | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:20:06] * Volcane reads gists | ||
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| [2010/08/19 16:20:17] * Volcane 's glad sometimes all the crap he pastes doesnt get attributed :P | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:20:25] <Volcane> now i know you use emacs | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:20:30] <Volcane> that cant be good | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:21:01] @ Quit: joestewart|afk: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:22:20] <ReinH> Volcane: I main vim | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:22:23] <ReinH> but I have emacs installed :p | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:22:49] <ReinH> I use it for haskell and erlang and such (that have a nice major mode) | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:23:03] <Volcane> heh | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:23:11] <ReinH> $ echo $EDITOR ; vim | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:23:12] <ReinH> :p | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:23:15] <Volcane> (cant(code(like(this)))) | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:23:57] <ReinH> ack | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:24:08] <Naresh> (surep (can? '(you))) | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:24:53] <Volcane> reminds me of sawfish window manager | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:25:24] <ReinH> Naresh: surep and can? in the same lispp | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:25:29] <Naresh> hehe | ||
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| [2010/08/19 16:34:08] <proprietarysucks> what's the best approach to make sure that ONLY the repositories I make in puppet are the repositories in /etc/yum.repos.d ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:34:41] <Volcane> purge the directory recursively | ||
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| [2010/08/19 16:36:01] <proprietarysucks> ok so blow it away each run | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:36:18] <Volcane> nope | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:36:22] <Volcane> thats not what that will do :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:36:32] <Volcane> it will only remove files not managed by puppet | ||
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| [2010/08/19 16:37:09] <proprietarysucks> oh | ||
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| [2010/08/19 16:42:07] <proprietarysucks> that kills all the files | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:42:22] <proprietarysucks> even the ones made with yumrepo | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:43:00] <Volcane> ah, yeah i guess it would cos yumrepo wont be making file resources | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:43:01] <Volcane> lame | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:43:02] <Volcane> sorry | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:43:15] <Volcane> if you copied out with file{} that would do it | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:43:24] <Volcane> yumrepo type might support purging on its own | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:48:11] <proprietarysucks> don't think so | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:48:25] <proprietarysucks> this is a very disappointing progression | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:48:44] <proprietarysucks> many turns I find puppet to be apparently much less powerful then I assumed it would be | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:49:08] <proprietarysucks> ok great so instead of using the yumrepo I'm back to just setting the file content to a file =/ | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:49:19] <proprietarysucks> at least it seems to be under development quite actively | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:49:33] <Volcane> yup, feature requests help | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:49:41] <Volcane> else more or less this will never get done | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:49:47] <proprietarysucks> I can only hope the most basic functions of what someone would expect of it would be flushed out sooner or later | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:50:05] <proprietarysucks> there is one already | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:50:12] <Volcane> ah | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:50:17] <proprietarysucks> from over 2 years ago | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:50:21] <Volcane> vote it up | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:50:24] <Volcane> whats the number? | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:50:25] <proprietarysucks> http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/1023 | ||
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| [2010/08/19 16:53:37] <Volcane> vote is pretty much the only option if you cant send patches | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:53:44] <Volcane> they do apparently consider votes | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:56:17] <BarnacleBob> does anyone use the checksum=> parameter to the file type? | ||
| [2010/08/19 16:56:22] <BarnacleBob> i can't get it to work | ||
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| [2010/08/19 17:09:14] <Diranged> so i have a pretty large handful of nodes doing puppet at this point, and i want to guarantee that if they cant get updated puppet configs, i get mailed… and when any change on them occurs, we get mailed. any tips on the best way to do that? | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:10:33] <Volcane> you can set up tagmail and monitoring on the localconfig.yaml on the nodes | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:11:46] <skeeziks> Does Puppet have a way to initiate a reboot after a puppet run finishes? | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:12:01] <skeeziks> I think I have a way to implement this myself, but I wanted to check here first. | ||
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| [2010/08/19 17:16:02] <proprietarysucks> what about if I did something like | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:16:12] <proprietarysucks> ensuring the file was present | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:16:18] <proprietarysucks> for each repository | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:17:22] <proprietarysucks> in theory it should purge the directory and leave those files, right | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:17:47] <Volcane> yeah, you probably can just do file{"/....": } | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:17:50] <Volcane> on each | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:19:27] <proprietarysucks> yep that works | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:19:33] <proprietarysucks> it's still hacky but what the hey | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:20:02] <Diranged> tagmail.conf applies on client noders as well as the puppetmaster node, right? | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:20:03] <Diranged> er nodes | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:20:46] <proprietarysucks> just make youre /etc/puppet/tagmail.conf on your puppmaster | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:20:54] <proprietarysucks> your nodes need only to have reporting enabled | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:22:58] <Diranged> ok.. but what if the nodes cant reach the pppet server? | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:23:03] <Diranged> (i was actually having this issue with ~100 nodes) | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:26:48] <proprietarysucks> if they can't reach the server then you're basically boned | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:26:53] <proprietarysucks> what's the point of having puppet at all | ||
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| [2010/08/19 17:28:25] <Diranged> :P so i want a way to KNOW that puppetd isnt reachign the server, and therefore isnt getting updates.. a perfect example is if your puppet server certificate has an error (in my case)m, and all your nodes are hitting the server … but not doing any updates | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:29:24] <proprietarysucks> I use foreman for that | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:29:32] <jhelwig> Diranged: Something like Dashboard would let you know that you have clients that haven't connected, or had successful runs in a while. | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:29:34] <proprietarysucks> probably puppet-dashboard would do the same thing | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:29:38] <jhelwig> Dashboard, or foreman. | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:30:45] <mrwacky42> does either of those work sanely with multiple puppetmasters ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:31:13] <jhelwig> That, I can't answer (yet). | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:31:15] <proprietarysucks> don't know, I use 1 | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:31:28] <proprietarysucks> maybe at my last job we would have enough servers for that | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:31:33] <proprietarysucks> we only have a few hundred here | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:37:16] <proprietarysucks> hmmm I'm wondering how to increase the 'max pool size' | ||
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| [2010/08/19 17:58:50] <adrianpike> is there a quick and easy way I can change something in my puppetmaster and then on a client force a re-run? | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:59:15] <adrianpike> i tried killing puppetd and starting it back up it but no dice | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:59:28] <mackn> do you have a splay time set | ||
| [2010/08/19 17:59:49] <adrianpike> i'm too new to even know what that is yet :D | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:00:00] <mackn> ok then it's probably a no | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:00:24] <mackn> do you already have the client doing stuff | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:00:30] <mackn> or is this the first time | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:00:37] <adrianpike> first time | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:00:55] <hal-j> run "puppetd —test" on the client, or look into puppetrun | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:01:10] <mackn> so the problem is probably not that puppetd isn't seeing the changes but rather puppetmaster doesn't know to have your client do anything | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:01:30] <adrianpike> do i have to tell puppetmaster that i've changed my manifest? | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:01:30] <mackn> that didn't sound clear at all.. | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:01:34] <mackn> no | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:01:50] <mackn> what change did you make | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:02:08] <adrianpike> changed sudoers to 777 | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:02:10] <adrianpike> *shifty eyes* | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:02:11] <hal-j> well, if you've added a class in a file that's explicitly imported (rather than in a module that has auto-import magic) you may need to bounce puppetmaster | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:02:22] <adrianpike> yeah, just in site.pp | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:02:33] <hal-j> ah, no puppetmaster bounce needed for that | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:02:55] <mackn> have you looked at logs | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:02:58] <mackn> make sure there are no errors | ||
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| [2010/08/19 18:03:17] <adrianpike> puppetd --test is saying it's applying the same configuration version even after i've changed my site.pp around | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:03:26] <mackn> no errors? | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:03:40] <mackn> might help to see your site.pp | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:03:41] <adrianpike> not on the client side, checking server side right now | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:03:56] <adrianpike> hmm | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:04:04] <mackn> you're probably not mapping the node to the class | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:04:34] <adrianpike> i've got catalog compilation notices in the server log, so it's probably just things aren't applied correctly | ||
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| [2010/08/19 18:20:04] <proprietarysucks> what's up with this message | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:20:06] <proprietarysucks> Could not retrieve catalog: could not obtain a database connection within 5 seconds. The max pool size is currently 5; consider increasing it. | ||
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| [2010/08/19 18:49:43] <rgenthner_> how do i configure a puppet to know its node type | ||
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| [2010/08/19 18:54:10] <adrianpike> rgenthner_: I'm also working on figuring that one out - let me know if you find anything. | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:54:11] <adrianpike> :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:54:25] <rgenthner_> i will | ||
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| [2010/08/19 18:55:50] <rgenthner_> i just dont want make a few hunderd node "host.example.com" inherits basenode {} entries | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:56:00] <adrianpike> yeah | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:56:21] <adrianpike> www[1-K].blah.com and what-not | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:56:34] <whack> you can use an external node classifier script | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:56:52] <adrianpike> my dream is to be able to spawn off an ec2 node that says "i'm an app node", and the magic happens | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:57:05] <rgenthner_> yeah when you have 200 webs and 21 dbs and 21 general produciton server, etc making them by hand indiviually sucks | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:57:07] <whack> you need a source of truth | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:57:35] <whack> some data source to query to ask "what am I?" | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:57:51] <whack> tons of ways to do this. I've done it with a small rails app before. | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:58:02] <adrianpike> in my case, that's EC2 userdata | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:58:17] <whack> so use that? | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:58:28] <proprietarysucks> I find it questionable that no one has run into this issue | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:58:47] <rgenthner_> yeah | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:58:48] <proprietarysucks> I added like 90 nodes and now about half of them can't check in at all | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:58:49] <adrianpike> whack: my puppetmaster isn't going to know that | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:59:02] <rgenthner_> you think you would be able to define it in /etc/puppet/puppet.conf | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:59:10] <adrianpike> possible clues: http://ubuntumathiaz.wordpress.com/2010/03/24/using-puppet-in-uecec2-puppet-support-in-ubuntu-images/ | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:59:17] <whack> adrianpike: puppetmaster knows $fqdn, it'll also get all the facts from the puppet node. You could include your own facts that push ec2 userdata | ||
| [2010/08/19 18:59:57] <adrianpike> whack: ahhh, facts might be the one. $fqdn is a disaster to mess with | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:00:10] <whack> you could also use the IP of the node, query that to EC2 | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:00:16] <whack> I don't use ec2 userdata, so I can't help you with that api part. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:00:49] <adrianpike> whack: how are you going about spwaning up new ec2 instances? | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:01:00] <whack> I don't use ec2 much right now | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:01:13] <adrianpike> that's probably a good call :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:01:25] <whack> aotmatically spinning new instances probably isn't a problem you need to solve first. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:01:39] <whack> you need a source of truth, not a way to create new systems. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:02:00] <whack> if you want automatic spawning of new instances, there are already products for that (rightscale, etc) | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:02:47] <adrianpike> it's not the automatic spawning i want, so much as the automatic configuring | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:03:04] <whack> so you can use a script to add userdata to whatever serers you want | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:03:07] <whack> then have puppet feed from that | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:03:08] <rgenthner_> whack how does one say group 12 servers as a webserver and then when those servers are kickstarted that puppet knows those hosts are webs | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:03:21] <whack> rgenthner_: with a source of truth to tell puppet what is what. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:03:29] <whack> could be a db, a file, ec2 userdata, hostname, whatever. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:04:03] <rgenthner_> so no matter what i'm doing i still have to enter those servers by hand :( | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:04:06] <whack> at my past two jobs, I had a rails app that would serve as this truth source. Adding a new service to a machine was just making a db change and puppet would pick it up. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:04:27] <whack> rgenthner_: that's a one-time cost. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:04:42] <hal-j> you could have a script that takes some data from userdata, plus some unique info (IP) and creates a hostname from that | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:04:47] <adrianpike> whack: you're assuming his cluster is fairly static | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:04:52] <whack> no I'm not. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:04:52] <rgenthner_> yeah true but a pain when you have 300 servers and growing | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:05:03] <whack> rgenthner_: try having thousands | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:05:06] <whack> it's all the same. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:05:13] <rgenthner_> yeah | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:05:22] <whack> the point is you have to have some human element that defines truth | ||
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| [2010/08/19 19:05:30] <hal-j> then you could create 100 nodes passing "webserver" in via userdata, each would claim their hostname is webserver-their-ip-address.whatever.com and then you could handle that in puppet | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:05:43] <whack> you can't automatically say "these 300 machines are now to run my webapp" without someone (human) making that business decision | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:05:47] <adrianpike> hal-j: liking it | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:05:53] <whack> don't use hostnames for roles. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:05:55] <whack> it doesn't scale. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:06:10] <whack> if you're on EC2, use ec2 userdata, or what group it's in, etc. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:06:13] <rgenthner_> yeah server types does scale | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:06:31] <rgenthner_> whack, how do you tell puppet to check the point of truth | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:06:38] <whack> rgenthner_: code? | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:06:40] <adrianpike> whack: so your thinking is to stuff userdata into facter, and then write the classifier? | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:06:43] <rgenthner_> for said type | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:06:45] <whack> adrianpike: that's an option | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:06:52] <hal-j> there are lots of ways to skin this cat, but if you're not there yet, get puppet to configure a single webserver from scratch before you tackle 100 at a time. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:06:54] <whack> or have a nodeclassifier in your puppet master that knows how to fetch the userdata. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:07:03] <rgenthner_> sorry if its a dumb q but i'm not a rails/ruby person | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:07:08] <whack> so don't use rails. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:07:18] <whack> use a flat text file, it doesn't matter what your truth source looks like so long as it serves the data. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:07:27] <rgenthner_> ok | ||
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| [2010/08/19 19:09:26] <adrianpike> on the plus side, it uses yaml, and i *am* lazy enough to use yaml :) | ||
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| [2010/08/19 19:09:53] <rgenthner_> whack, isn't that what the puppet dash board does right? | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:09:54] <proprietarysucks> how can I have puppet insert the output of this into a file? $(expr $(sum <<<$($uniqueid)| awk '{print $1}') % 60) | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:10:04] <whack> rgenthner_: possibly, I don't use it. | ||
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| [2010/08/19 19:10:34] <whack> proprietarysucks: instead of shell you could use erb | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:10:55] <whack> inline_template("<%= uniqueid ... % 60 %>") | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:10:56] <whack> etc. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:11:09] <proprietarysucks> what would it be when not etc | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:11:16] <whack> ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:11:37] <adrianpike> rgenthner_: the other component of what we're wrestling with here, BTW, looks like exported resources: http://ubuntumathiaz.wordpress.com/2010/03/24/using-puppet-in-uecec2-puppet-support-in-ubuntu-images/ | ||
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| [2010/08/19 19:11:48] <proprietarysucks> that little nugget generates a 0-59 number based on the system uniqueid | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:11:56] <adrianpike> i'm going to dig into that first, and then worry about auto-classification later | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:12:06] <whack> man, I should really open source my cron stuff | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:12:10] <Djelibeybi> proprietarysucks: look into the fqdn_rand function that's built into puppet. Might do what you're after. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:12:58] <adrianpike> because one extra step of running over to puppet and say "yeah, domu-321.12321.5212.132.blah is an app node" is manageable, but having to then go into any load balancing, access, or other configuration and adding that manually could get tiring | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:13:44] <whack> adrianpike: really? | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:13:48] <adrianpike> whack: yeah | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:13:49] <whack> because I do that, and it's practically no effort | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:14:10] <proprietarysucks> oh thanks, that seemed to be pretty easy | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:14:13] <whack> at my last job, I had a yaml file that described all hosts (hostname, ips, services, cluster info, etc) | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:14:30] <whack> adding a new frontend was pretty simple adding one line to the file, commit and deploy, puppet takes the rest. | ||
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| [2010/08/19 19:15:24] <adrianpike> should have open sourced the scripts behind that bad boy | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:15:39] <whack> it's like 3 days worth of work to build a rails app taht does it | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:15:48] <whack> if you can code ruby, I suppose. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:15:52] <adrianpike> that's 3 days i could be on a beach instead. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:16:24] <whack> but instead you'll spend months hand-managing servers? ;) | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:17:09] <adrianpike> nay, i'll just shell out the coin for EY | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:17:10] <adrianpike> :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:18:30] <rgenthner_> whack, is there any docs out there about point of truth and userdata | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:19:09] <whack> can't help with ec2 userdata | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:19:41] <rgenthner_> nah i don't waste money on amazon services :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:19:50] <whack> http://sysadvent.blogspot.com/2008/12/day-7-host-vs-service.htmlhttp://sysadvent.blogspot.com/2008/12/day-7-host-vs-service.html <-- one of my writeups on treating hosts and services (roles) differently | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:20:53] <adrianpike> i just knew you were a perl monk. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:21:39] @ plathrop is now known as plathrop-away | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:22:00] <whack> adrianpike: I haven't used perl in any meaningful capacity in a while :( | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:22:46] <adrianpike> well yeah. we all get older and discover ruby eventually. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:23:13] <whack> heh, perl isn't so bad these days now that Moose and other projects are around. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:23:31] @ Quit: pinoyskull: Quit: Leaving | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:23:48] <adrianpike> OOs in my perls? tomfoolery. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:24:10] <adrianpike> ooh, i like. | ||
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| [2010/08/19 19:26:40] <rgenthner__> dam vpn | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:26:52] <rgenthner__> whack, I think we have some of the same friends | ||
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| [2010/08/19 19:27:20] <whack> possibly, small world and all :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:27:29] <adrianpike> oh wow | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:27:39] <adrianpike> Professional Puppet Patterns | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:27:46] @ Quit: rgenthner_: Ping timeout: 252 seconds | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:27:48] <adrianpike> hells yeah, i said. | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:27:51] <adrianpike> http://www.projectpuppet.com/ | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:27:56] * adrianpike hangs head | ||
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| [2010/08/19 19:30:24] <moos3> whack, like i was saying i think we know some of the same people | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:30:37] <whack> 19:27 < whack> possibly, small world and all :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:30:38] <whack> :) | ||
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| [2010/08/19 19:31:02] <moos3> lol you a bp and lucas morris and you went to RIT correct | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:31:09] <moos3> :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:31:47] <moos3> I happen to be a former student from that college of bored-ness | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:32:24] <moos3> s/you/you know/g | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:32:39] <whack> ahha | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:32:45] <whack> glad you escaped rochester :) | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:32:54] <moos3> yeah | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:33:26] <whack> I was there a week or two ago for a wedding. Ate garbage plates 4 of the 5 days I was there ;) | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:33:30] <moos3> they wouldn't allow me to test out of classes because i didn't have enough credits left to take after my transfer there in 05 | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:33:53] <moos3> nice thats one think i miss is garbage plates from marks | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:34:00] <moos3> and drinking at the toad | ||
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| [2010/08/19 19:36:04] <whack> agreed :) | ||
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| [2010/08/19 19:37:22] <moos3> anything is better then maine which is where i'm telecommuting to dc from | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:38:39] <moos3> did you ever get your system monitor application up that you were thinking of designing | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:41:46] <whack> haven't had time to work on it, been focusing more on $job, xdotool, and logstash | ||
| [2010/08/19 19:42:11] <moos3> nice | ||
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| [2010/08/19 19:53:40] <bdha> What system monitor application? :) | ||
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| [2010/08/19 22:07:51] <TomWork> any ideas when 2.6.1 will be released ? because I wonder if I must wait or if I must repackaged my puppet 2.6.0 with patches | ||
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| [2010/08/19 23:12:34] * spikebike tries to debug a "Could not request certificate: Retrieved certificate does not match private key; please remove certificate from server and regenerate it with the current key" problem | ||
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| [2010/08/19 23:21:28] <eric0> ssldir location changed on client? client was re-imaged and previous keys got blown away? | ||
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| [2010/08/19 23:22:15] <eric0> what it means is that the server said 'hey use this certificate' but the client couldnt decrypt it because the private key which generated the csr was not found | ||
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| [2010/08/19 23:22:23] <spikebike> well the frustrating part is I thought if I did a puppetca clean <hostname of client> that it would pick up the new key | ||
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| [2010/08/19 23:22:34] <spikebike> (running the clean on the puppet master) | ||
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| [2010/08/19 23:24:56] <spikebike> basically | ||
| [2010/08/19 23:25:03] <spikebike> puppet# puppetca --clean client.caes.ucdavis.edu | ||
| [2010/08/19 23:25:06] <spikebike> client# puppetd -t --server=puppet.cse.ucdavis.edu | ||
| [2010/08/19 23:25:10] <spikebike> shouldn't that work? | ||
| [2010/08/19 23:25:27] <eric0> did the client cache the old certificate? in ssldir/certs ? | ||
| [2010/08/19 23:25:58] <spikebike> maybe. | ||
| [2010/08/19 23:26:14] <spikebike> do I need a clean on the client as well? | ||
| [2010/08/19 23:29:07] <eric0> i don't think puppetca clean will work (it looks in $ssldir/ca hierarchy) but if you have cleaned on the server you need to rm it from $ssldir/certs/clientname.pem on client | ||
| [2010/08/19 23:29:26] <spikebike> ah, I think that's it thanks | ||
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| [2010/08/19 23:33:30] <eric0> spikebike: are you affiliated with these guys? http://spikethewonderdog.com/ | ||
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| [2010/08/19 23:36:37] <kjetilho> dammit, I need an lsbmajmindistrelease | ||
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| [2010/08/19 23:36:57] <kjetilho> ie. so 5.0.5 becomes just 5.0 | ||
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| [2010/08/19 23:37:19] <spikebike> eric0: heh, no | ||
| [2010/08/19 23:37:42] <spikebike> there's an old obscure set of usenet stories with a character called spike bike | ||
| [2010/08/19 23:37:50] <spikebike> from rec.bicycles.* | ||
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| [2010/08/19 23:40:25] <eric0> ah yes i have seen these... the BOFH of cycling | ||
| [2010/08/19 23:40:32] <spikebike> exactly | ||
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