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| [2010/08/22 09:25:07] <moos3> can you make puppet deploy static ip configurations? | ||
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| [2010/08/22 09:31:59] <miah> moos3> yes of course. just write a module that writes the configuration needed | ||
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| [2010/08/22 10:37:13] <moos3> i have another question i just got all hosts put in a db table with hostname and ip and a node type how can i set puppet to use that for deployment | ||
| [2010/08/22 10:37:53] <Volcane> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/external_nodes.html | ||
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| [2010/08/22 10:43:40] <moos3> Volcane, with external nodes does that mean if a have node 'web' inherits base {} I can just tell specify the node type in my table as web and it should know how to handle right | ||
| [2010/08/22 10:43:55] <Volcane> roughly :) | ||
| [2010/08/22 10:44:29] <Volcane> external nodes replace node blocks | ||
| [2010/08/22 10:44:46] <moos3> k | ||
| [2010/08/22 10:44:49] <Volcane> all your variable defines, class inludes etc moved to external nodes | ||
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| [2010/08/22 11:08:43] <moos3> can i do this for say 30 packages like emacs,vim,apache,etc | ||
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| [2010/08/22 12:01:14] <mocker> Hello | ||
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| [2010/08/22 12:02:57] <ohadlevy> mocker: hi | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:03:52] <mocker> Setting up a VM environment so I can play w/ puppet. :) | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:05:10] <mocker> Actually probably going to try cobbler and then puppet. | ||
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| [2010/08/22 12:11:14] <ohadlevy> mocker: you may look at foreman too | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:13:03] <mocker> foreman? | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:13:34] * mocker googles. | ||
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| [2010/08/22 12:16:45] <mocker> interesting | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:18:09] <mocker> My issue is that I only really need these tools for initial provisioning/deployment. | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:18:15] <mocker> Not entire lifecycle | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:18:59] <ohadlevy> mocker: so why are you looking at puppet? | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:19:19] <mocker> ohadlevy: Eh, manage post-install.. | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:19:44] <ohadlevy> mocker: that doesnt scale / work that well in the long run | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:19:58] <mocker> hrm. | ||
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| [2010/08/22 12:21:34] <mocker> ohadlevy: Puppet doesn't work well for managing just the kickstart/postinstall, or not having a lifecycle system doesn't scale? | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:22:08] <ohadlevy> mocker: doing things only in post install do not scale imho | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:22:29] <jmccune> mocker: You don't need an entire "lifecycle system" but you almost certainly need a tool to manage state after kickstart. | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:23:17] <mocker> jmccune: Which is why I'm looking at puppet.. :) | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:24:30] <jmccune> mocker: Right, but ohadlevy's point is that it's more than just initial provisioning/deployment. | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:25:41] <mocker> Which is why I want to test it out some. | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:26:25] <mocker> Unless you are saying that if I'm only looking for provisioning/deployment then I shouldn't look at puppet? | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:26:41] <mocker> (and now the foreman) :) | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:26:49] <jmccune> No, that's not what we're saying. | ||
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| [2010/08/22 12:32:25] <mocker> Foreman looks interesting. | ||
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| [2010/08/22 12:39:36] <mocker> Seems more management of systems after they are up and running.. | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:44:47] <ohadlevy> mocker: it suppose to bring your machines up :) | ||
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| [2010/08/22 12:49:35] <kc7zzv> Is there a way to tell puppet to pull a file if and only if it exists on the server, or pull a default file if the file on the server doesn't exist? | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:50:13] <kjetilho> yes, source => ["path1.$fqdn", "default"] | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:50:23] <ptman> kc7zzv, source => ['first candidate', 'fallback'] | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:50:32] <kjetilho> (doesn't have to be $fqdn of course) | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:50:51] <ptman> sorry about the duplicate, damn connection is too slow | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:50:54] <kc7zzv> Thanks. For some reason, I thought that did concatenation. I've never tried it. | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:51:08] <kjetilho> kc7zzv: it does concatenation for template() | ||
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| [2010/08/22 12:51:19] <kjetilho> quite annoying that they behave differently, really | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:54:45] <kc7zzv> Also, anyone know where I should use properties and where I should use parameters in a puppet type written in ruby? | ||
| [2010/08/22 12:57:23] <kc7zzv> The file is at http://github.com/kc7zzv/puppet-cups_printer/blob/master/lib/puppet/type/cups_printer.rb . I just realized that I've been using "newproperty" and "newparameter" interchangeably, and I'd really like to know which I should be using. | ||
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| [2010/08/22 17:00:04] <agaffney> does puppet have support for posix ACLs in addition to just simple owner/group/mode? | ||
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| [2010/08/22 17:05:22] <lisa> agaffney: that would be cool | ||
| [2010/08/22 17:11:56] <dgillies> agaffney: looks like there's an unloved feature request for it: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/1033 | ||
| [2010/08/22 17:12:10] <agaffney> yep, came across that one | ||
| [2010/08/22 17:12:16] <agaffney> I ended up using an exec | ||
| [2010/08/22 17:14:35] <dgillies> ah cool | ||
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| [2010/08/22 18:28:16] <gebi> agaffney: same for filesystem capabilities | ||
| [2010/08/22 18:30:40] <gebi> for eg. let normal users use wireshark without sudo/su or other root uglyness | ||
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| [2010/08/22 19:48:59] <TomWork> hey guys, how would you do "if $var is unset then set it " | ||
| [2010/08/22 19:49:19] <TomWork> usual case to setup default to vars | ||
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| [2010/08/22 20:28:11] <_Sarge_> Howdy all | ||
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| [2010/08/22 20:48:57] <agaffney> TomWork: if ! $some_var { $some_var = "some value" } | ||
| [2010/08/22 20:49:36] <TomWork> agaffney: ta | ||
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