Wednesday, 2010-09-01

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[2010/09/01 00:25:01] <zipkid> Goodmorning
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[2010/09/01 00:33:16] <telmich> good morning
[2010/09/01 00:33:47] <Tonnerre> True
[2010/09/01 00:34:24] <duritong> Happy Mailman Day!
[2010/09/01 00:34:42] <Tonnerre> Oh noes, maybe the morning isn't so good after all
[2010/09/01 00:35:29] <w00> Isn't that on 4 feb?
[2010/09/01 00:35:31] <telmich> after upgrading the puppetmaster to 2.6.0, I get "No required SSL certificate was sent" from clients, which are new, although they are listed in autosign.conf; any hint?
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[2010/09/01 00:46:10] <Roksteady> Mailman day? is that Today's Reason To Drink?
[2010/09/01 00:51:16] <zipkid> Darn... is there a docu on variable scope in puppet?
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[2010/09/01 00:53:56] <xHans> zipkid: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/language_tutorial.html#variable_scope
[2010/09/01 00:54:19] <zipkid> xHans: Thx!
[2010/09/01 00:54:24] <xHans> bitte
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[2010/09/01 00:54:47] <zipkid> xHans: Danke. then...
[2010/09/01 00:54:49] <zipkid> :-)
[2010/09/01 00:55:34] <xHans> :)
[2010/09/01 00:56:22] <joschi> Roksteady: you need a reason for that?
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[2010/09/01 01:21:09] <telmich> my puppetd does not get a certificate, nor does the puppetmaster see a certificate, I'm wondering what's wrong here: https://nopaste.eof.name/132
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[2010/09/01 01:31:01] <holsta> Gah, shouldn't [puppetd] settings in puppet.conf on the master be forced on connecting clients? say, runinterval.
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[2010/09/01 01:34:17] <Volcane> how would that happen?
[2010/09/01 01:34:50] <Volcane> if u want settings on the client, use file{} to copy out puppet.conf
[2010/09/01 01:36:40] * holsta eats some cheese to go with his whine..
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[2010/09/01 01:38:14] <telmich> yeah, somebody else has the same problem! http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/browse_thread/thread/cb50d38154cef148 (though no solution)
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[2010/09/01 01:39:11] <francispereira> i keep getting rr: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: Could not match '}' at /etc/puppet/manifests/modules/blocal_app_stack/manifests/init.pp:1 on node appserver1 for a new module i wrote. The contents of /etc/puppet/manifests/modules/blocal_app_stack/manifests/init.pp is class blocal_app_stack {
[2010/09/01 01:39:11] <francispereira> }
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[2010/09/01 01:40:58] <xHans> francispereira: an empty class?
[2010/09/01 01:42:01] <Volcane> francispereira: you have a syntax error in your init.pp
[2010/09/01 01:42:02] <francispereira> yes
[2010/09/01 01:42:11] <francispereira> there is really nothing there
[2010/09/01 01:42:20] <francispereira> its an empty class
[2010/09/01 01:42:21] <Volcane> we wouldnt know? you didnt show us.
[2010/09/01 01:42:25] <xHans> francispereira: some languages don't allow empty blocks, so you probably just need to add something
[2010/09/01 01:42:39] <francispereira> let me try
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[2010/09/01 01:42:43] <xHans> Volcane: he does tell us the contents :)
[2010/09/01 01:43:04] <Volcane> xHans: yeah, every day people hre tell us how their code is perfect and puppets syntax checker has bugs
[2010/09/01 01:44:15] <Volcane> xHans: amazingly though, we never fix syntax checker bugs :)
[2010/09/01 01:44:34] <xHans> Volcane: I'm certain that does happen, but francispereira didn't :)
[2010/09/01 01:44:59] <Volcane> xHans: so its always best just to pastie.org your code and the error message
[2010/09/01 01:45:07] <Volcane> takes away the guess work
[2010/09/01 01:45:10] <xHans> Volcane: yes, but he did it inline
[2010/09/01 01:45:24] <xHans> "The contents of /etc/puppet/manifests/modules/blocal_app_stack/manifests/init.pp is class blocal_app_stack {"
[2010/09/01 01:45:54] <Volcane> so then there's obviously a missing } if thats the whole file?
[2010/09/01 01:45:56] <xHans> er, forgot to include the closing brace francispereira mentioned
[2010/09/01 01:46:14] <Volcane> :)
[2010/09/01 01:46:17] <francispereira> here is what the class looks like now http://pastie.org/1131083. Still the same error
[2010/09/01 01:46:42] <Volcane> francispereira: you sure its a unix format file?
[2010/09/01 01:48:38] <francispereira> Volcane, ahh that was the problem
[2010/09/01 01:48:47] <Volcane> :)
[2010/09/01 01:48:53] <francispereira> this init was written on a windows box
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[2010/09/01 02:39:40] <tim|mac> hm... in puppet 0.25.5, how can I combine variables into a name of another variable? eg. I'd like to do something like ${ipadress_$if} to get the output of $ipaddress_eth0, but my previous syntax doesn't seem to work...
[2010/09/01 02:39:46] <tim|mac> at least not within a notify{}
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[2010/09/01 02:41:49] <Volcane> tim|mac: need to use lookupvar in inline tmeplate or in a little custom function :(
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[2010/09/01 02:43:03] <tim|mac> damn
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[2010/09/01 02:46:10] <murmur> I have a mixed environment of puppet 0.25.1 and 0.25.2, and am being bitten by the SSH "aliases" to "host_aliases" keyword change.
[2010/09/01 02:46:38] <murmur> I've tried a conditional based on $lsbdistcodename, but puppet still wants to evaluate aliases/host_aliases, and so fails - is there another workaround?
[2010/09/01 02:47:37] <tim|mac> Volcane: do you have an example of how to use lookupvar? simple inline_template("<%= lookupvar(foo) %>") seems not to work
[2010/09/01 02:47:55] <Volcane> tim|mac: try scope.lookupvar('foo')
[2010/09/01 02:48:49] <tim|mac> Volcane: thx, that works!
[2010/09/01 02:49:56] * tim|mac writes a blog post about it
[2010/09/01 02:50:13] <Volcane> tim|mac: there might be some change in behavior with that in 2.6 not sure
[2010/09/01 02:50:15] <Volcane> not tried :)
[2010/09/01 02:50:57] <Volcane> ah, it works fine
[2010/09/01 02:51:05] <Volcane> blog away :)
[2010/09/01 02:51:11] <tim|mac> :D
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[2010/09/01 02:58:15] <khnz> since the latest upgrade, the global classes array doesn't work in templates; has anything changed since?
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[2010/09/01 03:04:36] <joschi> hi, has someone already worked on Feature #2977 (postgresql support) for puppet dashboard?
[2010/09/01 03:04:37] <gepetto> joschi: hi: #2977 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/2977 "Puppet Dashboard - Feature #2977: PostgreSQL backend support - Puppet Labs"
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[2010/09/01 03:09:19] <sassyn> hi all
[2010/09/01 03:09:36] <sassyn> can someone please tell me how can I provide an attribute to a module.
[2010/09/01 03:09:53] <sassyn> Saying I have a module that add lines to the /etc/hosts file.
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[2010/09/01 03:10:35] <sassyn> and I want to provide in the site.pp under specific node something like include "node" hostname=sassy
[2010/09/01 03:11:10] <Volcane> but hostname is already set ?
[2010/09/01 03:11:15] <Volcane> its set automagically
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[2010/09/01 03:11:47] <sassyn> Volcane, Yes
[2010/09/01 03:12:12] <sassyn> but saying I would like to have under the /etc/hosts something like: 8.8.8.8 dns.google.com
[2010/09/01 03:12:46] <sassyn> and I created a module that add lines to the /etc/hosts file on the client
[2010/09/01 03:12:46] <Volcane> there's a type to manage /etc/hosts
[2010/09/01 03:12:56] <Volcane> just add the appropriate instance to it
[2010/09/01 03:13:43] <sassyn> it's just an example. what I really want to do is to know how can I provide an attribute to a module from the site.pp.
[2010/09/01 03:13:47] <francispereira> From class "B" how do I set a require for a package defined in class "A" ?
[2010/09/01 03:14:10] <Volcane> sassyn: in 2.6 you can, before that you just have to set a varaible
[2010/09/01 03:14:31] <sassyn> francispereira, I'm very new to puppet what do u mean class B?
[2010/09/01 03:15:22] <francispereira> class A and class B are two different classes
[2010/09/01 03:15:32] <sassyn> Volcane, how ? i have node 'mynode' { $name="foo" include "bar" }
[2010/09/01 03:15:40] <Volcane> sassyn: thats it
[2010/09/01 03:16:20] <sassyn> yes but the module name bar doesn't know how to get the $name attribute
[2010/09/01 03:16:30] <Volcane> $name is special
[2010/09/01 03:16:32] <Volcane> you cant set it
[2010/09/01 03:16:37] <Volcane> but $foo, that would just work
[2010/09/01 03:16:44] <sassyn> let me check please
[2010/09/01 03:16:47] <sassyn> thank :-)
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[2010/09/01 03:20:23] <sassyn> Volcane, doesn't work see here for the module http://pastebin.com/LQhPK25D
[2010/09/01 03:21:16] <francispereira> Volcane, any idea how i can set a require for a package to a package from another class
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[2010/09/01 03:23:38] <Volcane> francispereira: just like normal
[2010/09/01 03:23:42] <Volcane> sassyn: will look in a bit
[2010/09/01 03:24:09] <francispereira> Volcane, I get err: Could not run Puppet configuration client: Could not find dependency Package[MySQL-client] for Package[blocal-web-java-generic] at /etc/puppet/manifests/modules/blocal_app_stack/manifests/init.pp
[2010/09/01 03:24:24] <Volcane> francispereira: then you didnt include the class that makes that package
[2010/09/01 03:24:32] <francispereira> Package[MySQL-client] is provided by class mysql
[2010/09/01 03:24:42] <francispereira> let me try that
[2010/09/01 03:26:24] <francispereira> i included class MySQL::Client to class blocal_app_stack. Still gives me the same error
[2010/09/01 03:28:57] <Volcane> it only says that if you're not including the class with the package, or if you have a typo or something like that
[2010/09/01 03:29:18] <Volcane> you probably also want to avoid ClassesLikeThis
[2010/09/01 03:30:12] <francispereira> the class is called mysql::client, the package it installs is called MySQL-Client
[2010/09/01 03:30:48] <Volcane> well, you keep typing contradictory things
[2010/09/01 03:30:52] <Volcane> included class MySQL::Client
[2010/09/01 03:30:58] <Volcane> the class is called mysql::client
[2010/09/01 03:31:03] <Volcane> so i cant really help you
[2010/09/01 03:31:08] <khnz> for example, the "print all the defined class" sample in http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/templating.html doesn't work since the update to 2.6
[2010/09/01 03:31:23] <francispereira> Volcane, sorry, my bad
[2010/09/01 03:31:29] <francispereira> here is the setup
[2010/09/01 03:31:31] <Volcane> khnz: frankly, that never worked properly - it never printed all classes
[2010/09/01 03:31:47] <Volcane> khnz: you're probably better off not relying on that
[2010/09/01 03:31:57] <Volcane> khnz: i am not sure what internals have changed though
[2010/09/01 03:33:18] <francispereira> I have a class called mysql::client that defines a package resource MySQL-Client . My application is installed by a different class and I want to package in the application class to require Package[MySQL-Client] defined in class mysql::client
[2010/09/01 03:33:41] <khnz> Volcane: works with 0.24 and 0.25 for me; but thanks for the info
[2010/09/01 03:34:06] <Volcane> khnz: it showed classes sure, but not all of them.
[2010/09/01 03:34:15] <francispereira> *I want the package in the application class
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[2010/09/01 03:34:19] <Volcane> khnz: it only showed classes encountered up to the point when you accessed that array - not all.
[2010/09/01 03:34:31] <Volcane> khnz: and would produce unreliable results - cos it was order dependant
[2010/09/01 03:34:43] <Volcane> francispereira: put the code on pastie.org
[2010/09/01 03:35:38] <khnz> Volcane: but it works for what I needed ;o)
[2010/09/01 03:35:47] <dcarley> francispereira: why not depend on the class rather than the package?
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[2010/09/01 03:36:14] <khnz> Volcane: so I'll change my temples, thanks again
[2010/09/01 03:36:15] <francispereira> dcarley, how do i set dependency on the class ?
[2010/09/01 03:36:45] <dcarley> francispereira: similar to you would a package: require => Class["mysql::client"],
[2010/09/01 03:37:03] <francispereira> Let me try that
[2010/09/01 03:37:27] <khnz> Volcane: but the guide should be changed too ;)
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[2010/09/01 03:37:57] <dcarley> francispereira: and include that mysql::client class in your other class.
[2010/09/01 03:38:18] <Volcane> khnz: yeah, it would be good if you could file a bug for that it's no doubt not intentional
[2010/09/01 03:38:18] <dcarley> francispereira: generally it's safer to include entire sub-classes. especially if they setup other stuff with the package.
[2010/09/01 03:39:27] <dcarley> khnz Volcane: ref in the existing bug about all_tags being parse dependent?
[2010/09/01 03:40:02] <Volcane> dcarley: its not really a bug as much as an entire language design that needs to change, i have a bug open for the larger case and its something that they're working on probably for 2.8 only
[2010/09/01 03:40:28] <Volcane> dcarley: its the same reason if defined() is order dependant etc
[2010/09/01 03:40:37] <francispereira> dcarley, thats for that
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[2010/09/01 03:40:48] <francispereira> it works like a charm :)
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[2010/09/01 03:44:23] <dcarley> Volcane: that's the ticket i was referring to -
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[2010/09/01 03:44:31] <dcarley> Volcane: #3049
[2010/09/01 03:44:32] <gepetto> dcarley: Volcane: #3049 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/3049 "Puppet - Bug #3049: Several bits of the language are order dependant - Puppet Labs"
[2010/09/01 03:44:42] <Volcane> yeah
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[2010/09/01 03:46:03] <dcarley> i've just re-read what i first said and it doesn't make sense though. i meant: it's probably good to note about the documentation in that same ticket.
[2010/09/01 03:46:12] <Volcane> ah
[2010/09/01 03:46:18] <Volcane> yeah it didnt make sense :P
[2010/09/01 03:46:33] <Volcane> will do later - mid migrating storage on tomcat machines, meh.
[2010/09/01 03:46:43] <Volcane> nfs to gluster, starting to wonder whats wrose
[2010/09/01 03:46:48] <dcarley> yeah, not at all. i was ambushed by a dev mid-sentence :)
[2010/09/01 03:46:54] <barn> that's a nice frying pan you're leaping in to
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[2010/09/01 03:48:02] <Volcane> barn: like phones, they all suck :)
[2010/09/01 03:48:17] <barn> just be glad it's not a WinMo device (;
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[2010/09/01 03:53:49] <dcarley> i will never recoup the time that winmo phones have stolen from my life.
[2010/09/01 03:57:02] <Volcane> yeah winmo's were pretty bad, they were ok when the only competition was palm - well only in the later days of palm
[2010/09/01 03:59:13] <dcarley> i came from palm too. so android is comparatively rock solid.
[2010/09/01 04:01:30] <Volcane> still have my Palm V, doubt it works though
[2010/09/01 04:01:37] <Volcane> dont have its charger
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[2010/09/01 04:17:11] <habanero> anyone had any experience using puppetmaster from passenger/apache2?
[2010/09/01 04:17:37] <ohookins> habanero: yes, i'm using puppetmaster with passenger
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[2010/09/01 04:58:46] <sassyn> can I call for a module more then one time?
[2010/09/01 04:59:32] <sassyn> so for example if have some module that update some file, and get a variable name IP, Can I call it more then once?
[2010/09/01 05:01:48] <zipkid> sassyn: classes can have only 1 instance but can be included as many times as you want, it will be executed only once
[2010/09/01 05:02:15] <zipkid> sassyn: defines can be called and used as many times as you want with each a different mane var
[2010/09/01 05:02:30] <zipkid> s/mane/name/
[2010/09/01 05:02:47] <sassyn> zipkid, What I like to do is that I want to update some time, where I call the module once and provide some array
[2010/09/01 05:03:27] <sassyn> like $foo = ["x", "y", "z"]
[2010/09/01 05:03:27] <sassyn> and the moulde will get $foo and run the function 3 times.
[2010/09/01 05:03:41] <zipkid> sassyn: start by using the correct term... you can NOt call a module... Modules contain classes and defines, thoose you can 'call'
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[2010/09/01 05:04:14] <sassyn> OK sorry I kind new at this. I mean to call a class
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[2010/09/01 05:04:26] <zipkid> then create a define and you can pass an array as name and it will be executed for each
[2010/09/01 05:04:44] <zipkid> sassyn: not a class, a define
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[2010/09/01 05:05:02] <zipkid> now go read the language tutorial first!
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[2010/09/01 05:05:13] <sassyn> can u provide the link....?
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[2010/09/01 05:05:24] <zipkid> sassyn: tsssss.....
[2010/09/01 05:05:41] <zipkid> you give an impression of being quite lazy...
[2010/09/01 05:06:33] <sassyn> I tried to look for this ...... and I could't find it.
[2010/09/01 05:06:42] <zipkid> sassyn: http://bit.ly/ce6AB1
[2010/09/01 05:06:42] <sassyn> zipkid, really not being so lazy
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[2010/09/01 05:10:43] <sassyn> zipkid, thank you
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[2010/09/01 05:10:58] <sassyn> but I still don't see how to make a loop, foreach or some other method
[2010/09/01 05:11:07] <sassyn> zipkid: do u have any idea?
[2010/09/01 05:11:36] <telmich> can I somehow tell puppet to print the code it executes? I'm trying to debug the ssl-issue (client does not submit csr to master)
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[2010/09/01 05:27:36] <zipkid> ls -al
[2010/09/01 05:27:41] <zipkid> ....
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[2010/09/01 05:43:12] <habanero> ohookins, sorry was away, i have problems with passenger/apache2, passenger is working, but I'm getting 500 errors
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[2010/09/01 05:43:36] <ohookins> habanero: which version of puppet are you using?
[2010/09/01 05:43:53] <habanero> puppet-0.25.5-1.el5
[2010/09/01 05:44:06] <habanero> passenger (2.2.11)
[2010/09/01 05:44:18] <habanero> I tried with 2.2.15 as well
[2010/09/01 05:44:48] <habanero> but downgraded as I read a thread saying there were problems with 2.2.15
[2010/09/01 05:45:00] <habanero> which versions do you have working?
[2010/09/01 05:47:40] <ohookins> 2.2.7 i think
[2010/09/01 05:47:41] <dcarley> telmich: do you mean code or commands?
[2010/09/01 05:47:59] <ohookins> and 2.3.5 of the active* gems
[2010/09/01 05:48:11] <ohookins> rack 1.0.1, rails 2.3.5
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[2010/09/01 05:52:30] <telmich> dcarley: well, as deep as it needs to be to see why no csr is being transferred
[2010/09/01 05:54:14] <dcarley> telmich: --debug will show you any commands that types are executing.
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[2010/09/01 05:55:43] <dcarley> telmich: but it depends what you're looking for. if you want deeper than that, then you'll probably have to delve into the code itself.
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[2010/09/01 06:04:21] <habanero> ohookins, i have rack (1.2.1), rake (0.8.7), active* 2.3.8 but no rails installed
[2010/09/01 06:05:01] <habanero> which version of puppet do you run?
[2010/09/01 06:05:05] <ohookins> 0.25.4
[2010/09/01 06:05:27] <habanero> any chance I can see your config.ru?
[2010/09/01 06:06:38] <ohookins> it's completely standard, just use the passenger installation instructions
[2010/09/01 06:06:47] <ptman> I'm having a problem with defined types
[2010/09/01 06:07:05] <telmich> dcarley: --debug is not enough, you don't see the internal process / why it does not get a cert
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[2010/09/01 06:07:17] <ptman> I have a class, admins, which contains a defined type, admin, which is instantiated several times
[2010/09/01 06:08:56] <ptman> and I have another class, admins::foo that inherits admins, and when I try to modify the User resources contained in the admin type, puppet tells me that I can only do that from subclasses
[2010/09/01 06:09:05] <ptman> but admins::foo is a subclass of admins
[2010/09/01 06:10:27] <habanero> ohookins, same here, did you have any problems with setup?
[2010/09/01 06:10:27] <telmich> the interesting thing is, if I remove /var/lib/puppet/ and restart puppetd, it works again
[2010/09/01 06:10:50] <habanero> I presume you have puppet owning the config.ru?
[2010/09/01 06:13:04] <ohookins> habanero: pay attention to the RHEL5 section in wiki:Using_Passenger
[2010/09/01 06:13:05] <gepetto> ohookins: habanero: wiki:Using_Passenger is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Using_Passenger "Puppet - Using Passenger - Puppet Labs"
[2010/09/01 06:18:38] <habanero> ohookins: gepetto: I'm pretty sure I have but will check again
[2010/09/01 06:19:05] <ohookins> i had to create fresh puppetmaster bootstrapping instructions for another team where i work and i pretty much copied and pasted
[2010/09/01 06:19:08] <ohookins> and it worked
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[2010/09/01 06:22:36] <ptman> http://pastie.org/1131452
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[2010/09/01 06:51:46] <habanero> ohookins: it was the rack version - I downgraded to 1.0.1
[2010/09/01 06:52:57] <ohookins> aha
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[2010/09/01 06:55:39] <habanero> thanks for listening!
[2010/09/01 06:56:12] <habanero> I'm sure there will be other problems, good to know that someone is using passenger/apache2 with success
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[2010/09/01 06:57:39] <ohookins> it definitely works, and it is much faster than standalone puppetmasterd
[2010/09/01 06:57:51] <ohookins> but unfortunately 2.6 doesn't work with it yet i believe
[2010/09/01 06:58:29] <ptman> is it possible to set modes like +rX in gun chmod?
[2010/09/01 06:58:35] <ptman> or how should I solve this:
[2010/09/01 06:58:53] <ptman> I want a directory and everything contained in it to be owned by a certain user and group
[2010/09/01 06:59:09] <ptman> and I also want to set the permissions on that directory
[2010/09/01 06:59:22] <ptman> but the files should not be executable, while to directory should
[2010/09/01 06:59:35] <ptman> s/to/the
[2010/09/01 06:59:41] <morpheus> use 664 or whatever
[2010/09/01 06:59:54] <ptman> and the directory will get +x?
[2010/09/01 07:00:04] <morpheus> puppet will set the executable bit on directories automagically if you set the readbit
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[2010/09/01 07:00:17] <morpheus> at least thats what I remember from the docs
[2010/09/01 07:00:38] <ohookins> yes, there is no way to not set execute bits on directories afaik
[2010/09/01 07:00:45] <ohookins> +r implies +x
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[2010/09/01 07:00:50] <ptman> ah, it actually says that in the docs
[2010/09/01 07:00:52] <ptman> I missed it
[2010/09/01 07:00:53] <ptman> thanks
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[2010/09/01 07:07:36] <ohookins> anyone know if you can use regular expressions in <<||>> ?
[2010/09/01 07:07:41] <Wintermute_> Hi all ;)
[2010/09/01 07:07:54] <Wintermute_> Any way to copy files from one place to another?
[2010/09/01 07:07:57] <Wintermute_> like...
[2010/09/01 07:08:10] <Wintermute_> /usr/sbin/nginx to /var/chroot/usr/sbin/nginx
[2010/09/01 07:08:24] <ohookins> Wintermute_: file resource with recurse => true ?
[2010/09/01 07:08:25] <Wintermute_> or only through exec?
[2010/09/01 07:08:42] <Wintermute_> and what else?
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[2010/09/01 07:09:24] <Wintermute_> I put as source the source file?
[2010/09/01 07:09:33] <ohookins> source directory
[2010/09/01 07:09:34] <Wintermute_> instead of puppet://
[2010/09/01 07:09:51] <ohookins> yes, you can do file copies from local source
[2010/09/01 07:10:18] <Wintermute_> source => "/usr/sbin/nginx"
[2010/09/01 07:10:20] <Wintermute_> :)
[2010/09/01 07:10:22] <joe-mac> ohookins: idk but you can try in a test.pp file then run puppet test.pp
[2010/09/01 07:10:30] <matti> Hey joe-mac
[2010/09/01 07:10:33] <joe-mac> you wion't be able to collect exported stuff but you can use that notation for realization
[2010/09/01 07:10:35] <joe-mac> sup matti
[2010/09/01 07:10:40] <joe-mac> <| |> is for realizing
[2010/09/01 07:10:43] <Wintermute_> thanks!!
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[2010/09/01 07:13:19] <ohookins> joe-mac: so realization works with regexes but not collected resources?
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[2010/09/01 07:14:38] <joe-mac> ohookins: no i didn't say that
[2010/09/01 07:14:40] <joe-mac> i said test it
[2010/09/01 07:14:47] <joe-mac> by writing a test.pp file and running puppet test.pp
[2010/09/01 07:14:49] <joe-mac> i have no idea
[2010/09/01 07:15:01] <joe-mac> i'm saying you likely won't be able to collect from a test file like that
[2010/09/01 07:15:09] <joe-mac> so just use the realization notation to maket hings easier
[2010/09/01 07:15:28] <ohookins> but realization has nothing to do with collected resources
[2010/09/01 07:15:57] <ohookins> i've already tried using a regex in <<||>> but it doesn't work, so i was hoping someone could actually tell me if it is supported
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[2010/09/01 07:22:11] <franks_> When I try to send a file to my client, I get the message from puppetd "Could not retrieve file metadata for puppet: .... undefined method `name=' for #<Puppet::FileServing::Metadata" ---The file is there, but it cant get it ?
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[2010/09/01 07:25:38] <henk> hi
[2010/09/01 07:25:52] <henk> which is not allowed (or better avoided) in class names, _ or -?
[2010/09/01 07:26:29] <tim|mac> -
[2010/09/01 07:26:37] <henk> d'uh
[2010/09/01 07:26:40] <henk> thanks
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[2010/09/01 07:28:41] <henk> hm, i have a ressource that depends on a class in another module. i'm confused how to solve this... puppetd complains about being unable to find dependency Class[ruby::xml_simple]...
[2010/09/01 07:29:33] <henk> i just use require => Class["ruby::xml_simple"] in the resource. do i have to include the complete module? or just that class?
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[2010/09/01 07:34:07] <joe-mac> ohookins: exported resources are a subset of virtual resources
[2010/09/01 07:34:27] <joe-mac> think of exporting as analogous to defining, and collecting as analogous to collecting
[2010/09/01 07:34:34] <joe-mac> this is why the notation is so similar too
[2010/09/01 07:34:45] <henk> nvm, including helped, but i'd still like to know if that's The Way To Do It?
[2010/09/01 07:42:06] <ptman> http://serverfault.com/questions/176882/puppet-performance-compared-to-cfengine
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[2010/09/01 07:55:11] <Peanut> Hi - is there something like an 'onchange' in puppet? I have a class that installs a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d, and would like the system to run an apt-get update as soon as that file is installed, but not in runs when it hasn't changed.
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[2010/09/01 07:56:07] <ptman> Peanut, check out subscribe and notify (and exec)
[2010/09/01 07:56:37] <dcarley> Peanut: is the command an exec{} type?
[2010/09/01 07:58:41] <Peanut> dcarley: yes, just run 'apt-get update'
[2010/09/01 07:58:54] <dcarley> Peanut: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/stable/type.html#refreshonly
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[2010/09/01 08:00:56] <Peanut> dcarley: that looks like what I need, but how can I ensure that it happens as soon as my sources-file is updated, and before any packages are installed/updated?
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[2010/09/01 08:02:53] <dcarley> Peanut: "after file" is easy with a notify. "before other packages" is a bit more tricky. run stages might be appropriate, if you're on 2.6
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[2010/09/01 08:08:08] <Peanut> No runstages for me, alas :-)
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[2010/09/01 08:47:52] <Hartimer> howdy
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[2010/09/01 08:50:24] <prometheanfire> is http://dpaste.com/237407/ correct (can I just include monitor::nrpe_centos to have it be installed)?
[2010/09/01 08:50:54] <Cyis> on a ssh_authorized_key resource is it possible to specify a key for multiple users? ie- user => ["jdoe", "role"] instead of user => "jdoe" and another entry of the same key with user => "role" ?
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[2010/09/01 08:55:12] <Hartimer> does puppet allow for "mass-instalation" functionalities? meaning, i have a couple rpm's that i need installed on all machines... is it possible?
[2010/09/01 08:55:22] <prometheanfire> yes
[2010/09/01 08:55:34] <prometheanfire> I just got it to install from yum
[2010/09/01 08:55:43] <prometheanfire> plus you could do it via exec I would think
[2010/09/01 08:56:22] <prometheanfire> Hartimer: http://dpaste.com/237407/ is how I did it though yum
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[2010/09/01 08:56:51] <Volcane> Hartimer: just make package{} resources and put it in a class.
[2010/09/01 08:57:02] <Hartimer> that is awesome!
[2010/09/01 08:57:11] <prometheanfire> I would set up your own repo, manage the yum.repos.d files and install via that type of thing
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[2010/09/01 08:57:29] <Cyis> prometheanfire, error in your dpaste... if you really meant monitor::nrpe_centos
[2010/09/01 08:57:49] <Hartimer> in my case it might be slightly trickier, since my environment is mainly SLES
[2010/09/01 08:58:07] <Hartimer> but still....
[2010/09/01 08:58:12] <prometheanfire> Cyis: I include monitor::nrpe_nrpe and the package installed
[2010/09/01 08:58:28] <prometheanfire> Hartimer: same basic concept, sles is rpm based, right?
[2010/09/01 08:58:36] <Cyis> ok... I was just looking back in history and you mentioned "include monitor::nrpe_centos"
[2010/09/01 08:58:55] <prometheanfire> Cyis: worksforme (r)
[2010/09/01 08:59:14] <Hartimer> prometheanfire, yes it is
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[2010/09/01 08:59:33] <prometheanfire> same basic concept
[2010/09/01 09:01:05] <prometheanfire> anyone know what the release date on the new book is?
[2010/09/01 09:02:50] <Volcane> doubt there's a date set
[2010/09/01 09:03:13] <prometheanfire> :(
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[2010/09/01 09:04:00] <Hartimer> well, puppet seems very interesting... gotta dig the documentation... since it appears to have a steep learning curve
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[2010/09/01 09:56:36] <Tas_> Can someone enlighten me as to what the puppet dashboard is good for? The only useful thing I see it doing is showing me what nodes are up... but even that seems a bit sketchy
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[2010/09/01 09:57:07] <Tas_> I get no detailed reports, even though I am telling the nodes to report, and the server to report everything to the dashboard...
[2010/09/01 09:58:00] <Volcane> Tas_: you can use it to assign classes/modules/variables etc to nodes - replacing node{} files
[2010/09/01 09:58:08] <Tas_> and the dashboard doesn't know what classes/modules belong to each node, I have to add them in by hand, but those don't appear to actually relate to the real class, because even fake ones that I create in the dashboard run successfully
[2010/09/01 09:59:19] <Tas_> Volcane: what about getting information back from running those classes, error messages and whatnot?
[2010/09/01 09:59:29] <Volcane> yes, it supports that
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[2010/09/01 10:00:13] <Tas_> but what am I doing wrong, then? I only get a success/fail result back.
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[2010/09/01 10:00:49] <Volcane> Have to say I've not actually set it up, just read feature lists :)
[2010/09/01 10:00:59] <Volcane> well, i set it up, then watch it fail on firefox, then i delete it
[2010/09/01 10:01:09] <Cyis> Volcane, you know if it's possible to define a ssh_authorized_key resource and have it install for multiple users without having to duplicate the key entry for each user?
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[2010/09/01 10:01:31] <Cyis> I tried dashboard and couldn't get it to work and deleted it as well
[2010/09/01 10:01:56] <Volcane> Cyis: there's the usual tricks of setting defaults and using arrays etc, not sure how wll they apply to your use case
[2010/09/01 10:01:58] <Tas_> :s do you view reports some other way?
[2010/09/01 10:02:13] <Cyis> I just have my puppet install adding info into MySQL tables and then I wrote my own pages that get the status update info out for me
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[2010/09/01 10:03:39] <Cyis> Volcane, not sure how it that would work either... I have the keys for users that Puppet manages... now I'm trying to install select user keys in role accounts
[2010/09/01 10:03:51] <Volcane> Cyis: pastie one of your key resources
[2010/09/01 10:04:19] <Volcane> Tas_: http://www.puppetlabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Puppet-Dashboard-Report-View.png suggests the node view lists reports and clicking on a report shows the full report
[2010/09/01 10:04:28] <Volcane> Tas_: with all log lines and such
[2010/09/01 10:06:01] <Tas_> hmm. I see.
[2010/09/01 10:06:27] <Tas_> I guess the next problem is how I can add a "test" class (there is no real test class) to a node, and it can happily report that it ran just fine. heh.
[2010/09/01 10:06:59] <Volcane> Tas_: do you have your master setup to use external nodes?
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[2010/09/01 10:08:55] <Tas_> Volcane: I don't believe so, no.
[2010/09/01 10:09:14] <Volcane> Tas_: well so then you havnt created that link between master and dashboard
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[2010/09/01 10:09:43] <Volcane> granted, the docs are spotty
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[2010/09/01 10:10:39] <Cyis> Volcane, http://dpaste.com/237447/ has the base that I work from... I have additional modules that actually realize the User, Group and Ssh_Authorized_keys
[2010/09/01 10:11:08] <Tas_> yeah, I saw that external nodes document earlier- didn't think it related to what I needed. I'll see what I can do. Thanks :)
[2010/09/01 10:11:35] <Volcane> Cyis: yeah i see, will be hard to do that :( you could probably make something with 2 defines but it gets messy
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[2010/09/01 10:55:47] <xHans> the language tutorial seems to have a bug
[2010/09/01 10:55:48] <xHans> http://pastebin.com/dAGWeVWA
[2010/09/01 10:56:28] <xHans> wouldn't nodes which include the unix class have group set to root for password?
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[2010/09/01 11:08:33] <ablew> anybody have any suggestions on managing ulimits for users with Puppet?
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[2010/09/01 11:12:17] <joe-mac> eitehr manage the files under /etc/security or manage the lines with augas
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[2010/09/01 11:18:57] <jamesturnbull> xHans: for /etc/passwd?
[2010/09/01 11:19:10] <jamesturnbull> xHans: the /etc/password is clearly a mistype - I just fixed that
[2010/09/01 11:19:19] <jamesturnbull> not pushed yet
[2010/09/01 11:19:40] <xHans> jamesturnbull: shouldn't the group ownership for include unix be root?
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[2010/09/01 11:20:02] <xHans> wheel would be from the freebsd class
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[2010/09/01 11:22:25] <ablew> joe-mac: thanks for the ti
[2010/09/01 11:22:26] <ablew> tip
[2010/09/01 11:22:47] <jamesturnbull> xHans: not sure I understand what you're saying - you mean its a bad example and FreeBSD would use 'root'?
[2010/09/01 11:23:45] <xHans> "" In the above example, nodes which include the unix class will have the password file’s group set to “wheel”, ""
[2010/09/01 11:23:51] <joe-mac> np ablew
[2010/09/01 11:24:07] <xHans> wouldn't they have password's group set to root?
[2010/09/01 11:27:36] <xHans> the inherited class would not be affected by the inheriting class?
[2010/09/01 11:27:36] <joe-mac> no, not if it's unix
[2010/09/01 11:27:54] <joe-mac> BSD would use 'wheel' unless FBSD has mangled that convention
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[2010/09/01 11:29:53] <jamesturnbull> xHans: you are quite right
[2010/09/01 11:30:27] <xHans> cool, I was fearing that after all these years I misunderstand inheritance :)
[2010/09/01 11:30:29] <joe-mac> o i missed tyhe point this is about the feasability some real example
[2010/09/01 11:30:53] <jamesturnbull> joe-mac: that was my confusion too
[2010/09/01 11:30:57] <xHans> joe-mac: yeah, text in the language tutorial
[2010/09/01 11:31:21] <joe-mac> ah i c- i think like jamesturnbull said though it should probably say wheel, though i haven't used fbsd in a while, generally wheel is your sysadmin's group
[2010/09/01 11:31:48] <joe-mac> linux dumped that for some reason
[2010/09/01 11:32:06] <jamesturnbull> xHans: fixed - will be updated when we next push
[2010/09/01 11:32:16] <xHans> jamesturnbull: cool, danke
[2010/09/01 11:32:48] <xHans> jamesturnbull: I also noticed a few typos, is there a place to report them or do you just want me to mention them here?
[2010/09/01 11:33:33] <xHans> extra spaces like "defaul t path" and a few places with incorrect singularization/pluralization
[2010/09/01 11:33:55] <xHans> the latter is certainly subject to debate, but the spurious spaces obviously don't belong :)
[2010/09/01 11:34:15] <jamesturnbull> xHans: I already fixed that space just before
[2010/09/01 11:34:22] <jamesturnbull> xHans: let me push and then you can check
[2010/09/01 11:34:37] <xHans> there are two more in the same paragraph
[2010/09/01 11:34:51] <jamesturnbull> xHans: yeah I fixed a bunch of stuff just then
[2010/09/01 11:35:01] <xHans> cool
[2010/09/01 11:35:26] <jamesturnbull> xHans: will be updated in the next two-three minutes
[2010/09/01 11:35:34] <xHans> excellent
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[2010/09/01 11:36:25] <xHans> ok, back to using what I learned from reading the language tutorial :)
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[2010/09/01 11:42:23] <Tas_> does puppet back up files that it changes, by default?
[2010/09/01 11:42:56] <Tas_> I have this line: filebucket { main: server => puppet }, but I really don't know where that is :s
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[2010/09/01 11:54:34] <joe-mac> Tas_: it's on your server under /var/lib/puppet/clientbucket probably
[2010/09/01 11:54:36] <joe-mac> something like that
[2010/09/01 11:54:39] <joe-mac> or just bucket
[2010/09/01 11:55:07] <jamesturnbull> xHans: released
[2010/09/01 11:56:14] <xHans> jamesturnbull: danke
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[2010/09/01 11:58:09] <Tas_> joe-mac: hmm, it doesn't appear to have any files in it :/
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[2010/09/01 12:00:58] <joe-mac> you sure? /var/lib/puppet/bucket?
[2010/09/01 12:01:23] <Tas_> yes... Do I have to specify that files are to be backed up before they are overwritten somewhere?
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[2010/09/01 12:04:26] <joe-mac> yes
[2010/09/01 12:04:33] <joe-mac> you have to tell them which filebucket to go into
[2010/09/01 12:04:41] <joe-mac> or backup => "main" will backup to the main filebucket
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[2010/09/01 12:06:04] <Tas_> filebucket {main: server => puppet } \n File { backup => main } ...
[2010/09/01 12:06:14] <Tas_> that's what I've got in my manifests/site.pp file
[2010/09/01 12:06:46] <somnoliento> I just realized all of my nodes include the same class (shell settings and so forth). What is the best practice in this case?
[2010/09/01 12:07:42] <joe-mac> make a class called 'common' and include it on all nodes
[2010/09/01 12:07:52] <joe-mac> or externalize your nodes
[2010/09/01 12:08:11] <joe-mac> Tas_: that should work then, you should see it backing up ont he node when you run puppetd -t
[2010/09/01 12:09:14] <somnoliento> joe-mac, that's pretty much what I have. It just seemed.. not elegant. I though perhaps 'inherit' would be the recommended sty;e
[2010/09/01 12:09:18] <somnoliento> style
[2010/09/01 12:09:38] <Tas_> -t? like puppetd -test?
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[2010/09/01 12:13:11] <joe-mac> somnoliento: no, node inheritance is not nice
[2010/09/01 12:13:21] <joe-mac> Tas_: yea -t
[2010/09/01 12:13:41] <joe-mac> it's like --no-daemonize --onetime --verbose
[2010/09/01 12:13:44] <joe-mac> all together
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[2010/09/01 12:15:41] <Tas_> Shouldn't it back up files without -test? Or do you just want me to look for an error message of some sort?
[2010/09/01 12:16:12] <somnoliento> joe-mac, thanks. I'll keep it this way then
[2010/09/01 12:16:33] <joe-mac> Tas_: yes, it should, but i am saying -t shows you in the foreground what is happeniogn
[2010/09/01 12:17:52] <Tas_> joe-mac: the only output it gives is: ..caching catalog.. ..applying configuration version.. ..finished catalog run..
[2010/09/01 12:18:45] <joe-mac> then nothing has changed
[2010/09/01 12:19:08] <Tas_> I double-checked, it over-wrote a file...
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[2010/09/01 12:20:26] <Tas_> hmm, but now there's some crazy directories in the clientbucket/ folder
[2010/09/01 12:20:29] <joe-mac> Tas_: if you didn't see anything change during that output, then nothing was overwritten durign that run
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[2010/09/01 12:20:43] <joe-mac> yea, they;re like split ups of md5s
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[2010/09/01 12:20:49] <Tas_> b/6/a/a/6/5/e/b/<somelonghash>
[2010/09/01 12:21:17] <joe-mac> there's eventually supposed to be a nice interface to it
[2010/09/01 12:21:23] <Tas_> lol, how is that helpful? I can't map hashes to machine names :P
[2010/09/01 12:21:24] <joe-mac> a git/svn type thing i would think
[2010/09/01 12:21:37] <joe-mac> use find and grep for now inside shell functions
[2010/09/01 12:21:45] <joe-mac> bread, meet butter
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[2010/09/01 12:23:46] <fzzzt> hi everyone. is there a way to notify an Exec[] _and_ ensure a file gets transferred after it returns? require doesn't seem to work... (0.25.4)
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[2010/09/01 12:28:57] <fzzzt> I'm guessing it has something to do with the refreshonly option being true. It's not refreshed, so it doesn't need to run, and require thinks thats fine
[2010/09/01 12:29:19] <fzzzt> If I change from require to notify, it works, but the order isn't assured...hm
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[2010/09/01 12:33:47] <Volcane> a refreshonly exec is satisfied ok if it doesnt need to run yes
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[2010/09/01 12:41:47] <somnoliento> Can I realize a user to be part of some group (admin) in one node (her PC), and not part of that group in another node (a server)?
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[2010/09/01 12:44:54] <joe-mac> not easily, you could use a selector or extlookup on the groups parameter.
[2010/09/01 12:47:14] <somnoliento> joe-mac, can I do that in the virtual user definition? using the fqdn or domain facter variables?
[2010/09/01 12:47:24] <joe-mac> yea
[2010/09/01 12:48:21] <Tas_> joe-mac: would it be... better to store these file backups locally, you think?
[2010/09/01 12:48:40] <Tas_> seems like it'd be easier to correct mistakes and whatnot
[2010/09/01 12:49:53] <joe-mac> you can do that too with backup => "something.bak" i think
[2010/09/01 12:49:56] <joe-mac> might want to check int he docs on that one
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[2010/09/01 13:06:00] <fzzzt> hmmm
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[2010/09/01 13:11:39] <Tas_> I have an interesting problem. It appears that when I put an 'import <module>' statement in modules.pp, the module is also run, whether or not it is 'included' to run in nodes.pp at all.
[2010/09/01 13:12:26] <Tas_> but I cannot 'include' it unless it is imported (or I get an error)
[2010/09/01 13:13:59] <Tas_> and I cannot 'import' inside of a node definition, which means I am out of ideas, any help? :s
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[2010/09/01 13:16:25] <kjetilho> why are you using import instead of include?
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[2010/09/01 13:16:44] <kjetilho> seems to me you have misconfigured the module path
[2010/09/01 13:16:49] <Tas_> it errors when I try to include it, if nothing is imported?
[2010/09/01 13:17:34] <Tas_> I think I have the module path configured correctly
[2010/09/01 13:17:56] <mackn> time to see some pasties
[2010/09/01 13:18:11] <Tas_> I have two environments, and I changed the [main] environment to point to the [prod] environment I am using
[2010/09/01 13:18:19] <Tas_> hold on, I'll grab some pasties :P
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[2010/09/01 13:22:32] <Tas_> http://pastebin.com/5FD7FVQW
[2010/09/01 13:25:07] <Tas_> need me to paste any other files?
[2010/09/01 13:27:38] <kjetilho> Tas_: the path to e.g. the crontab module needs to be /etc/puppet/prod/modules/crontab/manifests/init.pp
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[2010/09/01 13:28:11] <kjetilho> prod/modules/backuppc_master/manifests/init.pp needs to contain the class backuppc_master
[2010/09/01 13:28:44] <kjetilho> see the pattern?
[2010/09/01 13:28:50] <fzzzt> hm
[2010/09/01 13:28:55] <fzzzt> so, i'm not sure if/how i can do this.
[2010/09/01 13:29:17] <fzzzt> if a file is modified, i need to (1) run an exec, (2) update the file, (3) run another exec
[2010/09/01 13:29:43] <fzzzt> basically the service can't be runnign when the file is modified
[2010/09/01 13:30:09] <Volcane> you cant do a refreshonly exec to happen before whatever is changing atm
[2010/09/01 13:30:44] <fzzzt> ok
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[2010/09/01 13:34:24] <Tas_> kjetilho: I don't quite get it, which path needs to be set to /etc/puppet/prod/modules/crontab/manifests/init.pp?...
[2010/09/01 13:34:35] <rmiller4pi8> Tas_: less so "what nodes are up" -- a job for nagios, and more for seeing what manifests are failing on what nodes. also for assigning classes to nodes if you don't do ldap, extnodes, or regexes
[2010/09/01 13:34:52] <rmiller4pi8> oh, sorry, my window stopped scrolling. probably covered hours ago.
[2010/09/01 13:35:07] <Tas_> :D
[2010/09/01 13:35:12] <kjetilho> Tas_: that's the path for your file containing the crontab class
[2010/09/01 13:36:37] <Tas_> so the global import statement should be something like: import /etc/puppet/prod/modules/crontab/manifests/init.pp inside of modules.pp?
[2010/09/01 13:36:55] <Volcane> Tas_: you dont need import at all to use modules.
[2010/09/01 13:37:17] <Tas_> i only need to 'include' them?
[2010/09/01 13:37:32] <Volcane> yes, and if it says it cant find the class you're setup or module layout is wrong
[2010/09/01 13:38:02] <kjetilho> the only place I use import is "import nodes/*.pp".
[2010/09/01 13:38:09] <Volcane> ditto
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[2010/09/01 13:39:14] <kjetilho> Tas_: "include foo" will look for /etc/puppet/prod/modules/foo/manifests/init.pp. "include foo::bar" will look for /etc/puppet/prod/modules/foo/manifests/bar.pp
[2010/09/01 13:39:35] <kjetilho> that's the point of modulepath
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[2010/09/01 13:43:04] <Tas_> then I don't understand why my include statements give an error, then. That's the directory/file structure I have... I'll double-check.
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[2010/09/01 13:48:09] <Tas_> well, using 'include' it is not running on any of the servers it shouldn't, but on the one it should, it is giving me this error: "Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: Could not find class backuppc_master at /etc/puppet/prod/manifests/nodes.pp:14 on node backup01.nsd.org"
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[2010/09/01 13:48:32] <Volcane> and where is class backup_master?
[2010/09/01 13:48:39] <Volcane> backuppc_master
[2010/09/01 13:49:03] <Tas_> in /etc/puppet/prod/modules/backuppc_master
[2010/09/01 13:49:30] <Volcane> what file has the class?
[2010/09/01 13:52:17] <Tas_> this file: /etc/puppet/prod/modules/backuppc_master/manifests/init.pp has the class... which appears to be named incorrectly
[2010/09/01 13:53:41] <Volcane> how do you set the clients environment?
[2010/09/01 13:54:12] <Tas_> ah, it appears to work now :D
[2010/09/01 13:54:15] <Tas_> I set it via puppet.conf
[2010/09/01 13:54:37] <Tas_> or... I don't, at the moment
[2010/09/01 13:54:46] <Tas_> I'll restart with the --environment variable set
[2010/09/01 13:55:00] <Tas_> right now they all fall into production (prod) by default.
[2010/09/01 14:00:08] <eric0> interesting poking around the puppet forge modules. kind of reinforces my idea that puppet code reuse is damned hard
[2010/09/01 14:01:07] <Volcane> yeah :(
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[2010/09/01 14:04:42] <progre55__> hi guys. Is it a good idea to store big files on amazon S3, and somehow tell the clients to download the files from there? well I mean, in a puppet master/client schema
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[2010/09/01 14:17:03] <kjetilho> can anyone help me spot my mistake? http://pastie.org/1132433
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[2010/09/01 14:22:26] * kjetilho is really stumped
[2010/09/01 14:24:42] <stahnma> kjetilho: try setting a variable = to var.inspect then <%= var -%>
[2010/09/01 14:25:12] <stahnma> when you try to run a method inside a <%= -%> I don't think that works out very well...I could be wrong though. I just seem to remember having issues with something similar
[2010/09/01 14:26:04] <kjetilho> I'm not running a method inside <%= %>, really.
[2010/09/01 14:26:13] <kjetilho> well, I added the .inspect() for debugging
[2010/09/01 14:26:27] <kjetilho> but the result is "the same" without it
[2010/09/01 14:26:49] <kjetilho> it is the if statement which somehow manages to stomp on the variable
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[2010/09/01 14:37:27] <kjetilho> I wonder if this is something like the magic local variables in Python
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[2010/09/01 14:37:53] <kjetilho> except Python is smarter :-p
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[2010/09/01 14:38:32] <kjetilho> seems like the assignment to a variable implicitly declares it as local, even if that code path isn't taken. which means it shadows the variable from outside
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[2010/09/01 14:38:45] <nottings> hello all
[2010/09/01 14:38:59] <nottings> anyone know of some place to get already written custom facts?
[2010/09/01 14:39:24] <nottings> looking to add basic file system info and don't know ruby to write my own
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[2010/09/01 14:43:26] <joe-mac> check puppet forge
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[2010/09/01 14:45:16] <nottings> thanks joe...tried there :-|
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[2010/09/01 14:46:39] <Tas_> is there a way to store a database of facts, so that I can push one script out to all of my clients, and the parts that will need to be changed for a few specific servers will be modified accordingly?
[2010/09/01 14:47:15] <nottings> you can have each client send all their "facts" to the puppet master server
[2010/09/01 14:47:36] <nottings> they will all be stored as seperate files in /var/lib/puppet/yaml/facts/<server_name>
[2010/09/01 14:47:50] <nottings> or similar directory based on your setup
[2010/09/01 14:48:25] <nottings> to get them to report home, add "report = true" in the client config
[2010/09/01 14:48:46] <Tas_> so once I have all the facts from each client, my server can dish out the appropriate configurations to all of them?
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[2010/09/01 14:49:22] <nottings> even w/o sending the facts home, you can add logic to your manifests based on facter facts
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[2010/09/01 14:49:31] <Kaelten> http://paste.wowace.com/sdjmqalgeun2o0v4/ is failing for me
[2010/09/01 14:49:37] <nottings> brb
[2010/09/01 14:49:41] <Kaelten> gives me undefined method `<<' for :undef:Symbol on node
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[2010/09/01 14:49:56] <Kaelten> specifically its the last chain there that seems to do it
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[2010/09/01 14:56:57] <nottings> Kaelten
[2010/09/01 14:57:06] <nottings> couldn't reply w/o registering which I don't care to do....
[2010/09/01 14:57:08] <nottings> but..
[2010/09/01 14:57:12] <nottings> package { memcached: ensure => installed, provider => yum } file { "/etc/memcached.conf": source => "puppet://puppet/<some_module>/<file_name>", } service { memcached: enable => true, ensure => running, }
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[2010/09/01 14:57:24] <nottings> that should work a little better for you if you can translate the line spacing
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[2010/09/01 14:59:44] <Kaelten> nottings: well specifically using the ~> in the chaining seems to have caused the issue
[2010/09/01 14:59:52] <Kaelten> when I change it to -> everything was working fine
[2010/09/01 15:00:01] <nottings> oh, right..
[2010/09/01 15:00:04] <Kaelten> file_ and package_ are macros
[2010/09/01 15:00:14] <nottings> i didn't know that was literal... thought it was a translation from the web page you pasted it into
[2010/09/01 15:00:17] <nottings> indicating tabs or something
[2010/09/01 15:00:29] <Kaelten> oh, no those are literal :)
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[2010/09/01 15:00:47] <Kaelten> the docs on the site read that if I wanted to use a notify relationship I should use ~> instead of ->
[2010/09/01 15:00:51] <Kaelten> or at least that's how I read them
[2010/09/01 15:00:54] <Kaelten> seems to be mistaken
[2010/09/01 15:01:15] <nottings> hmm...haven't played with or seen that method yet
[2010/09/01 15:01:26] <nottings> notify works just fine for me ;)
[2010/09/01 15:01:42] <eric0> thats new 2.6 syntax
[2010/09/01 15:01:51] <Kaelten> eric0: ya I'm using 2.6
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[2010/09/01 15:25:04] <Tas_> Is it possible to make a list of servers mapped to a few configuration settings in a file, and later use facter to find out what specific config settings it needs to input by comparing the name of the server with that of the list?
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[2010/09/01 15:33:51] <Tas_> Is facter-scripting actually Ruby, or is it its own scripting language?
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[2010/09/01 15:37:06] <miah> ruby
[2010/09/01 15:38:23] <eric0> Tas_: to question one, that sounds like an external node script. to question two, ruby
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[2010/09/01 16:17:16] <bjencks> What's the best way to generate a single file that contains a set of lines (following a template) for each instance of a resource? Ideally the resource is a define, but I could do a custom type.
[2010/09/01 16:18:15] <bjencks> I'm new to puppet, but I can't see any easy way to do it, and can't figure out good search terms
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[2010/09/01 16:29:15] <Djelibeybi> bjencks: can you explain more about what you're trying to achieve?
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[2010/09/01 16:31:36] <bjencks> Djelibeybi: I'm trying to generate a set of iptables and ebtables rules to be applied atomically, in a particular form
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[2010/09/01 16:32:14] <Djelibeybi> bjencks: check out this forge module: http://forge.puppetlabs.com/kbarber/iptables
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[2010/09/01 16:35:14] <bjencks> Djelibeybi: I looked at that, and it doesn't do everything I need, particularly custom chains
[2010/09/01 16:35:24] <bjencks> and it doesn't do ebtables
[2010/09/01 16:35:50] <bjencks> I guess I'll just generate fragments and run a script on the host to concatenate them
[2010/09/01 16:41:17] <Djelibeybi> bjencks: there is a module that does that.
[2010/09/01 16:41:26] <Djelibeybi> bjencks: search for the concat puppet module
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[2010/09/01 16:42:42] <bjencks> Djelibeybi: found it, that looks like it could work. Thanks!
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[2010/09/01 16:46:06] <Djelibeybi> bjencks: no worries. Good luck!
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[2010/09/01 21:00:42] * ToGgG__son sorry for this mais .... obligé car elle chante la vie et la mort est la mais ne la cherchez pas ! http://keny-arkana.com/desobeissance/
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[2010/09/01 21:02:16] <ToGgG__son> l'autorité a été tuée .... ils n'ont pas bien gardé la boite en cristal :s quel dommage du coup tout le monde tous les mondes en ont profité..
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[2010/09/01 21:04:22] <ToGgG__son> sorry for french, they killed Gods and the pandora cristal box is open, and money to money time to time time is money money is time and all people of the world has won money with our times....
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[2010/09/01 21:08:36] <ToGgG__son> please down this ... it's a shit of france la-defense.fr.Epiknet.org (195.225.204.22) port 6667 servers ... /map and links ... but be carefull it's an unrealepik irc Daemon
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[2010/09/01 22:19:39] @ Topic is "Puppet Camp SFO 10/7-8 http://bit.ly/ctMDFE | http://docs.puppetlabs.com | Bugs & Feature Requests: http://bit.ly/ddjhPk"
[2010/09/01 22:19:39] @ Topic set by jamesturnbull!~jamesturn@pelin.lovedthanlost.net on Fri Aug 13 14:19:02 -0700 2010
[2010/09/01 22:19:42] @ Mode +cnt by asimov.freenode.net
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[2010/09/01 23:12:29] * ToGgG__son Mozart - Eine kleine Nachtmusik K. 525 - Romance: Andante
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