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| [2011/10/22 05:27:50] <lathiat> Can anyone here tell me if "Pro Puppet" is a good book for a complete beginner to puppet? | ||
| [2011/10/22 05:30:45] <Dominic> it is | ||
| [2011/10/22 05:31:07] <lathiat> no need to read 'pulling strings' first? | ||
| [2011/10/22 05:31:42] <dan__t> If you've read the wiki, you probably don't need "Pulling Strings" :) | ||
| [2011/10/22 05:31:53] <lathiat> well i havent but i could :P | ||
| [2011/10/22 05:35:30] <Dominic> the wiki is a bit hit and miss, there's some very old advice in places. Pulling Strings is also quite old, I wouldn't recommend it to somebody new to Puppet 2.7. | ||
| [2011/10/22 05:35:41] <dan__t> fact | ||
| [2011/10/22 05:35:53] <Dominic> some of the official docs, like the new learning tutorial is quite good, but nowhere near as broad as the book | ||
| [2011/10/22 05:36:06] <lathiat> i had a quick look at google preview of puppet pro | ||
| [2011/10/22 05:36:11] <lathiat> looks like it does an intro etc still | ||
| [2011/10/22 05:36:23] <lathiat> and i dont have to work witha nye xisting systems so 2.6 is a less issue i think? | ||
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| [2011/10/22 05:37:16] <lathiat> i think i'll go with pro puppet and see what happens :) thanks for the tips | ||
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| [2011/10/22 07:01:29] <d3c> I'm trying to figure out how to manage a DNS server that enables other boxes (including puppetmaster) to connect to hostname puppet. should I copy my files to this box and run puppet apply? (since there is no master yet at this point) | ||
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| [2011/10/22 09:39:33] <cr3> if I notify a service, how do I know when its actually going to get started (or restarted)? | ||
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| [2011/10/22 09:49:13] <whack> cr3: I'm not sure I understand the question. What do you mean by 'when' ? If you notify a service, it is restarted by puppet. When it is restarted during that puppet run depends on the dependency graph puppet built before running | ||
| [2011/10/22 09:50:29] <cr3> whack: what if that dependency graph is not what I expected, it's very hard to troubleshoot :( | ||
| [2011/10/22 09:50:45] <whack> then you need to specify dependencies? | ||
| [2011/10/22 09:50:56] <whack> if thing A happens before thing B, and that's the wrong order, you need to specify order. | ||
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| [2011/10/22 10:08:38] <cr3> whack: I'd love to show you a pastebin of what I have but my puppet rules have become a massive bowl of spaghetti :) | ||
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| [2011/10/22 10:09:28] <cr3> it's frustrating because it seemed to work a minute ago and now doesn't work anymore | ||
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| [2011/10/22 10:18:36] <rtyler> whack: O HAI | ||
| [2011/10/22 10:19:52] <rtyler> whack: I was wondering why you use standalone with a singular site.pp instead of manybe a manifest for basic roles | ||
| [2011/10/22 10:20:19] <rtyler> whack: (@agentdero fwiw) | ||
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| [2011/10/22 10:32:29] <tightwork> Whats the deal with centos and puppet? is this even possible? I have the puppetlab repos, epel, I get nothing but incompatible versions. First it was puppet-server is older than what ubuntu has. Next old versions of ruby, 1.8.5 so it does not work with the mysql gem. Now it feels like a big blow of cruft, example what I'm trying to avoid in a configuration management system. Interesting, In the pulling strings book in the example they use a debian se | ||
| [2011/10/22 10:32:30] <tightwork> rver against fedora nodes. | ||
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| [2011/10/22 10:42:42] <Volcane> epel has the latest 2.6 which is latest considered stable | ||
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| [2011/10/22 10:58:25] <jmslagle> tightwork: The only thing that you'll have issues with on EPEL is Dashboard | ||
| [2011/10/22 10:58:28] <jmslagle> You centos 5 or 6? | ||
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| [2011/10/22 11:06:03] <joemiller> is it possible to lookup config variables from puppet.conf inside a custom function? i've been trying to find a way but coming up short | ||
| [2011/10/22 11:09:03] <Volcane> $settings::foo | ||
| [2011/10/22 11:09:08] <Volcane> might be able to lookupvar that | ||
| [2011/10/22 11:10:35] <joemiller> lookupvar not working. hrm | ||
| [2011/10/22 11:12:39] <joemiller> looks like i can get access to Puppet.settings[:confdir], like you did in puppet-hiera. so i can just use a new config file for this purpose (url and some params for an api that the function will pull data from) | ||
| [2011/10/22 11:12:45] <joemiller> i'll try that approach | ||
| [2011/10/22 11:13:12] <Volcane> ah yeah pity you cant put arb stuff into puppet.conf :( | ||
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| [2011/10/22 11:14:02] <joemiller> i think maybe you can with faces. i notice that kelsey's dashboard face is able to pull data from the [dashboard] section to configure db access | ||
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| [2011/10/22 11:14:51] <joemiller> i suppose a face could be an approach here. then figure out how to use the face in a manifest (custom function maybe) | ||
| [2011/10/22 11:15:18] <joemiller> eg: https://github.com/khightower/puppet-dashboard-face/blob/master/lib/puppet/face/dashboard.rb#L47-51 | ||
| [2011/10/22 11:15:41] <Volcane> oh those are normal valid params though | ||
| [2011/10/22 11:16:10] <Volcane> oh no they're not, nevermind me | ||
| [2011/10/22 11:16:43] <joemiller> yeah, i can't access them. i bet face api does Puppet.settings.use(:dashboard) to load up the face's conf section | ||
| [2011/10/22 11:16:51] <joemiller> i mean, i can't access them from puppet in master mode | ||
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| [2011/10/22 11:24:45] <jpalmer> joemiller: that khightower link you just posted.. I saw his presentation on faces at puppetconf. totally opened my eyes (I didn't even know what a face was before that) | ||
| [2011/10/22 11:24:59] <d3c> any standard way to have puppet clone a git repo and pull updates to it? | ||
| [2011/10/22 11:25:21] <joemiller> jpalmer: cool | ||
| [2011/10/22 11:26:05] <tmz> d3c: Take a look at https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet-vcsrepo | ||
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| [2011/10/22 11:28:48] <d3c> tmz: brilliant, thanks | ||
| [2011/10/22 11:31:08] <mrsprinkles> I'm rolling puppet 2.7 and I'm trying to make /etc/puppet a symbolic link to the working directory of my git repo. I've been fiddling with it four hours lol. puppetmaster seems to nuke and recreate /etc/puppet .. I thought that issues was fixed in 2.7? | ||
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| [2011/10/22 11:33:59] <mrsprinkles> anyone? | ||
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| [2011/10/22 12:14:48] <kjetilho> mrsprinkles: I suggest you manage /etc/puppet with Puppet itself instead | ||
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| [2011/10/22 12:42:25] <j00bar> howdy! i was hoping maybe you folks could help me figure out something i'm not able to wrap my head around. | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:42:44] <j00bar> i've got in modules/foo/manifests/init.pp a resource Package["apache2"] | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:42:56] <j00bar> as part of class foo | ||
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| [2011/10/22 12:43:16] <j00bar> then i've got module/foo/manifests/bar.pp a class foo::bar that has a resource that requires Package["apache2"] | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:43:25] <j00bar> in my site.pp i've got a node that includes both foo and foo::bar | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:43:54] <j00bar> but my logs say from foo::bar that Package["apache2"] isn't defined | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:44:31] <j00bar> Could not find dependency Package[apache2] for File[/etc/apache2/sites-available/bar] at /etc/puppet/modules/foo/manifests/bar.pp | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:44:42] <j00bar> i've triple checked i've got no misspellings or anything... | ||
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| [2011/10/22 12:46:34] <rtyler> j00bar: from my understanding, it's preferred to require Class["foo::bar"] rather than the package included as part of it | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:46:53] <j00bar> interesting - never done that before | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:46:55] <j00bar> i'll give it a shot | ||
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| [2011/10/22 12:48:54] <zleslie> Hi | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:49:00] <zleslie> is anyone running dashboard under unicorn? | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:49:02] <j00bar> now it reports that it can't find dependency Class[Foo] | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:49:15] <rtyler> j00bar: did you include foo? | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:49:35] <j00bar> shouldn't i not need to if the module is appropriately named/pathed? | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:49:58] <j00bar> doesn't puppet expect class foo to be in modules/foo/manifests/init.pp? | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:50:33] <zleslie> j00bar: correct | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:50:34] <rtyler> not AFAIK | ||
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| [2011/10/22 12:50:41] <rtyler> O RLY | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:50:48] <zleslie> just joining... | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:50:51] <zleslie> if you do include foo | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:51:02] <zleslie> the path is something like $modulepath/foo/manifests/init.pp | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:51:23] <zleslie> and include foo::bar is $modulepath/foo/manifests/bar.pp | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:51:37] <zleslie> with a class foo::bar { } | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:52:15] <j00bar> zleslie: let me copy the original problem into a pastebin | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:52:21] <zleslie> cool | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:52:39] <j00bar> http://dpaste.com/639244/ | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:53:22] <zleslie> j00bar: can you show me the code please? | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:53:27] <j00bar> zleslie: sure. | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:53:59] <zleslie> Ahh, I think I get it | ||
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| [2011/10/22 12:54:06] <zleslie> so you have bar.pp with class foo::bar | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:54:18] <zleslie> and you want to use a resource out of init.pp inside class foo | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:54:27] <zleslie> in foo::bar, you need to include foo | ||
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| [2011/10/22 12:55:15] <zleslie> forgeting that for this case we are using apache, think broder in app::server and app::client | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:55:24] <j00bar> zleslie: http://dpaste.com/639246/ | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:55:26] <zleslie> both of which will have common resources | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:55:33] <zleslie> so both should inclide app | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:55:35] <zleslie> imo | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:55:46] <j00bar> okay, so i do have to explicitly include it. | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:56:10] <zleslie> yes, which brings it into "scope" | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:56:16] <zleslie> then you are free to use it | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:56:26] <zleslie> puppet will only load the things that it needs to for a given catalog | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:56:40] <zleslie> which is specified with defines, includes, requires... | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:56:51] <j00bar> but it being included in a node {} in the site manifest isn't sufficient? | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:57:14] <zleslie> yes, it should be | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:57:15] <j00bar> i'm admittedly naïve about namespacing/scoping in puppet manifests | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:57:29] <zleslie> its cool, it takes a minute to get, but then its easy | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:57:38] <zleslie> so you have a site.pp right? | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:57:43] <zleslie> what does that look like? | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:57:46] <j00bar> http://dpaste.com/639248/ | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:57:47] <zleslie> Are you importing things? | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:58:01] <zleslie> Ahh | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:58:43] <rtyler> heh, took me a second to realize that you had pasted the transcript from the room | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:59:33] <j00bar> zleslie: so am i doin' it rong? | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:59:49] <zleslie> j00bar: yeah, not sure on that one. I would think that putting it in the node should fix the issue, but as a practice of things, it might be better practice jsut to be able to include mgmt::reprepro, and have it include the resources that it needs | ||
| [2011/10/22 12:59:56] <zleslie> this way things are more self contained | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:00:18] <j00bar> zleslie: so no include mgmt in the site manifest, but include it in reprepro and puppetmaster that require the resources it has defined | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:01:12] <zleslie> yes, each class that needs resources from another class shoudl include that class directly | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:01:18] <zleslie> though you want to be careful | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:01:35] <zleslie> like in my bacula::monitor class, I include nagios::params | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:01:47] <zleslie> which doesn't have any resources itself, but it has the variables that I need | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:02:02] <zleslie> you just want to be careful not to create too much dependency between modules | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:02:17] <zleslie> does that make sense | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:02:39] <j00bar> sort of | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:02:48] <j00bar> i've removed include mgmt from node mgmt | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:03:01] <j00bar> i've added include statements to both submodules | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:03:03] <j00bar> so let me see | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:04:05] <j00bar> is there a conflict with class mgmt and node mgmt? | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:04:29] <j00bar> i'm still getting that Class[mgmt] can't be found | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:05:41] <zleslie> oh, remove the require => Class["mgmt"] | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:05:55] <zleslie> just include mgmt at the top of mgmt::reprepro | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:06:02] <zleslie> then you are sure its available | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:13:56] <j00bar> so changing the node name and the class name to be different seems to work without the includes | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:14:25] <zleslie> interesting | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:14:28] <zleslie> what version of puppet? | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:14:38] <j00bar> 2.7.1 | ||
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| [2011/10/22 13:14:45] <zleslie> hmm | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:14:56] <zleslie> good to know I suppose | ||
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| [2011/10/22 13:23:57] <joemiller> can you pass hashes to custom puppet functions, or just strings? | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:24:53] <rtyler> you can pass hashes, let me find the example from whack I was just looking at https://github.com/jordansissel/puppet-examples/tree/master/function-returns-hash | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:24:58] <rtyler> is that close? | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:25:37] <joemiller> i saw that too. that is returning a hash tho, i'm looking to pass a hash into the function | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:25:54] <joemiller> i admit, i haven't even tried it. doing so now. | ||
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| [2011/10/22 13:26:15] <rtyler> heh | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:27:43] <joemiller> perhaps not | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:27:43] <joemiller> undefined method `[]=' for :undefined:Symbo | ||
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| [2011/10/22 13:52:29] <Xeross> Okay, so I wrote this ENC using Python, it runs fine when invoked from a bash prompt, but it fails when called from puppetmaster. It can't find a module that does work when invoked directly from a shell | ||
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| [2011/10/22 13:53:30] @ Topic is "Thanks for coming to PuppetConf! Videos available http://www.youtube.com/user/puppetlabsinc | Puppet 2.7.5 http://tinyurl.com/puppet275 | Puppet 2.6.11 http://tinyurl.com/puppet2611 | http://docs.puppetlabs.com | Bugs & Feature Requests http://bit.ly/dKVa0A." | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:53:30] @ Topic set by stahnma!~stahnma@fedora/stahnma on Fri Oct 21 11:39:43 -0700 2011 | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:53:42] @ Mode +Ccnt by adams.freenode.net | ||
| [2011/10/22 13:55:11] <Xeross> Derp, folder permissions >.< | ||
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| [2011/10/22 14:05:31] <neonflux> path issue? | ||
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| [2011/10/22 14:46:49] <Xeross> neonflux: Folder lacked a +x for the specific user | ||
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| [2011/10/22 15:10:34] <wooster> is there a cpan module installer that uses cpanminus? | ||
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| [2011/10/22 17:51:44] <tummy> After installing puppet enterprise I'm trying to get to the console, is there a specific directory I have to hit? like /puppet/ or something? | ||
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| [2011/10/22 18:23:48] @ Topic set by stahnma!~stahnma@fedora/stahnma on Fri Oct 21 11:39:43 -0700 2011 | ||
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| [2011/10/22 22:00:03] @ Topic is "Thanks for coming to PuppetConf! Videos available http://www.youtube.com/user/puppetlabsinc | Puppet 2.7.5 http://tinyurl.com/puppet275 | Puppet 2.6.11 http://tinyurl.com/puppet2611 | http://docs.puppetlabs.com | Bugs & Feature Requests http://bit.ly/dKVa0A." | ||
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| [2011/10/22 23:27:22] <kesor> sorry, I must be stupid or something ... but where the hell is the "create issue" button in redmine? | ||
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| [2011/10/22 23:39:05] <whack> kesor: it's confusing you usualy have to pick a project first | ||
| [2011/10/22 23:39:32] <whack> and you also have to be logged in | ||
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