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| [2011/10/26 00:27:23] <chequers> fragfutter: thanks | ||
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| [2011/10/26 00:33:15] <beddari> dear #lazypuppet, anyone made a .gitignore for when using Geppetto? :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 00:33:53] <beddari> metadata.json in there, what else .. more coffee, perhaps | ||
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| [2011/10/26 01:22:38] <Coff_> Are there anyone here with experience in using vcsrepo-module with git? | ||
| [2011/10/26 01:23:54] <Coff_> For some strange reason ensure => present work (as only one checkout is done), but if ensure => latest is set, a checkout is done in master, and puppet is run to update the vcsrepo-plugin will fail | ||
| [2011/10/26 01:24:02] <Coff_> Anyone seen similar things? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 01:30:40] <d3c> any way to manage (php) pecl packages? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 01:31:52] <tim|mac> d3c: use your distros package management | ||
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| [2011/10/26 01:34:28] <d3c> tim|mac: you mean I could use pecl as a provider? | ||
| [2011/10/26 01:34:52] <tim|mac> d3c: i don't see how you can read that in what i just said :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 01:36:39] <Coff_> d3c: what tim|mac means is that those packages are best managed by your distribution | ||
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| [2011/10/26 01:40:54] <d3c> Coff_: oh. well, how would you manage this under e.g. centos/yum? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 01:42:51] <d3c> Coff_: bingo, I already have some of those available as php-pecl-x. thanks | ||
| [2011/10/26 01:43:22] <Coff_> d3c: Glad to hear it. Good luck. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 01:48:11] <ddp23> hi, a puppet-lint question, if I have a define like: define foo ( | ||
| [2011/10/26 01:48:11] <ddp23> $a = '', | ||
| [2011/10/26 01:48:11] <ddp23> $b = $::fqdn | ||
| [2011/10/26 01:48:11] <ddp23> ) { ... I get the warning: "WARNING: optional parameter listed before required parameter on line 19" regardless of the order of a / b. Am I doing something wrong here? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 01:53:55] <trapni> i'm having a node /^appserver\d+/ {} rule, but one server (appserver13) to have a special body/software-addition. specializing it the c++-way (writing `node appserver13 {} atop`) didn't do the trick. so how can I do it? | ||
| [2011/10/26 01:55:23] <d3c> Coff_: thanks | ||
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| [2011/10/26 02:03:05] <xim1> What would be the right way to run a module only once during a node's lifetime i.e. upon installation? | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:03:32] <xim1> I can check for the existence of a .install file but is there a better and preferred way of achieving this? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 02:04:20] <jedi4ever> xim1: I don't think there is | ||
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| [2011/10/26 02:05:32] <n1x0n> trapni: I probably don't understand the problem, but can't you just include a class that you need in that node regex for appserver13 ? | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:05:37] <jedi4ever> is there a way to see the output of an exec while it's running? I have a very slow/long script that takes a while ... | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:05:44] <xim1> jedi4ever: I see that the runonce manifest issue is still open. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 02:06:19] <ddp23> jedi4ever: logoutput => true on the exec? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 02:06:42] <ddp23> guess that'll only help at the end of the exec run | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:06:46] <ddp23> hmm | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:07:07] <trapni> n1x0n: well. the problem is, that I'm having a generic set of servers, called appserver\d+ and one special in between that has some additional rules to be included. I would be glad to be able to write something like: if $name = 'appserver13' { include BLAH; } inside my regex node declaration | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:07:08] <jedi4ever> ddp23: yes only at the end. I've added debug and verbose flags, but nothing more | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:07:54] <ddp23> you may have to cause the command the exec is running to log itself to somewhere that you can tail | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:10:04] <jedi4ever> ddp23: I have that, just would be useful for me to have it displayed during the puppet run | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:10:11] <n1x0n> trapni: well, I woukd do include appserver , and then have that appserver class that actually has all includes, then for appserver you jsut do the node bit and do include appserver::appserver13 which could be a class that inherits appserver , although I'm sure there somone will have better way of doing this ? | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:10:15] <jedi4ever> I know puppet log is not a gui :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:10:53] <ddp23> assuming you're logging to syslog for puppet you could pipe your command output through logger to perhaps get them in the same place | ||
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| [2011/10/26 02:11:11] <trapni> n1x0n: that would mean, that I'd need to have about 40 merely-duplicate entries that just differ in a number :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:11:16] <ddp23> otherwise it' probably need a change to puppet whereby it wrote out exec out put ahead of time | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:11:44] <ddp23> which could be neat, though I don;t know it's currently doable or would be easy to add | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:11:49] <n1x0n> trapni: why? you still keep the regex | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:12:17] <jedi4ever> ddp23: doable yes, easy don't know :) Might have a look later | ||
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| [2011/10/26 02:12:50] <n1x0n> trapni: or is the problem that when you have more specific regex then it matches the \d+ one ? I use regexes for nodes as well and I'm pretty sure that works fine (although it could be a coincidence;-P) | ||
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| [2011/10/26 02:20:37] <erthad> hiall | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:20:52] <erthad> are there any resource/providers for git? | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:21:17] <_rc> vcsrepo | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:22:24] <erthad> thx | ||
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| [2011/10/26 02:28:21] <DbT_> I have this error: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Failed when searching for node host.na.me: Failed to find host.na.me via exec: Execution of 'enc host.na.me' returned 1: | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:28:31] <DbT_> when I run the ENC by hand it just works | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:28:44] <DbT_> when I start puppetd -t on host.na.me it just works | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:29:13] <_rc> is the full path to the enc there? | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:29:21] <_rc> does it have a shebang line? | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:29:36] <_rc> does it expect anything about its runtime environment? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 02:30:55] <kjetilho> DbT_: "just works" -- did you actually check the exit status? | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:30:59] <DbT_> _rc: path is correct, shebang line is #!/usr/bin/env python | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:31:19] <DbT_> kjetilho: yes, I did echo $? after running, it was 0. btw: this is the only host with this problem. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 02:35:07] <trapni> n1x0n: look at my excerpt please: https://gist.github.com/1315890 :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:35:19] <_rc> /usr/bin/env python? that expect the PATH to be set appropriately | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:35:24] <_rc> is it? | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:35:49] <trapni> _rc: yes, this requires python to be found in $PATH | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:36:55] <_rc> trapni: um, yes, that's what I was pointing out | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:39:56] <DbT_> _rc, trapni: so why does it always work when I run puppetd -t by hand on the node host.na.me? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 02:40:45] <_rc> DbT_: always? | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:41:27] <_rc> your first statement, http://pastie.org/2761059 suggests that it must at least sometimes fail | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:41:28] <DbT_> _rc: well… I cannot test it an infinite number of times :-) but every time I run it, it works. | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:42:46] <trapni> DbT_: what's the actual location of your python? maybe you need to tell puppet about that special location via Exec{path=>['/path/to','/path/else']} ? | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:43:18] <DbT_> trapni: yes, but that problem seems to be ruled out by my previous statement... | ||
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| [2011/10/26 02:45:11] <DbT_> _rc: yes, it fails when puppet runs automatically | ||
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| [2011/10/26 02:53:34] <DbT_> yep, repeated it again: 3 runs by hand just worked, now waiting for puppet autorun to see... | ||
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| [2011/10/26 02:56:20] <erthad> what is advised puppet dev/stage/prod setup for development of modules? do you setup several puppetmasters one to develop modules, one to push them into production etc or use puppet environments for that? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 02:56:50] <DbT_> erthad: I use environments, works pretty well | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:59:17] <erthad> the environments are pretty much isolated, aren't they? so syntax errors etc in one environment don't make other environments unusable, right? | ||
| [2011/10/26 02:59:26] <robinbowes> So, in the hiera-puppet install notes, it says: "For the moment the Gem install will place the Puppet Parser Function where Puppet cannot find it, you should copy it out and distribute it to your master using Pluginsync or something similar" | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:00:10] <nevyn> robinbowes: yes... | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:00:13] * robinbowes is not sure how to do that... | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:00:41] <robinbowes> I'm just testing on the master at the moment, and have pluginsync enabled | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:01:06] <nevyn> robinbowes: do you have pluginsync in the main section of your .conf file? | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:01:15] <robinbowes> Actually, I'm testing from the cli with just "hiera webname" | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:01:28] <robinbowes> ie. not using puppet at all | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:01:41] <robinbowes> I have created /etc/hiera.yaml | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:02:02] <robinbowes> And /etc/puppet/hieradata/{prod,uat,util}.yaml | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:02:23] <robinbowes> Each file has a "webname" item | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:02:47] <robinbowes> But, "hiera webname" returns a failure | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:03:08] <robinbowes> http://pastie.org/2761136 | ||
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| [2011/10/26 03:04:37] <robinbowes> I guess Volcane may take a look when he gets to work :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:05:43] <robinbowes> Ah, OK, it looks like the puppet backend is not working | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:05:55] <robinbowes> If I remove the puppet backend, it works OK | ||
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| [2011/10/26 03:08:25] <DbT_> erthad: yes | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:08:40] <erthad> thank you | ||
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| [2011/10/26 03:11:42] <helindbe> beddari: did you get an answer to your .gitignore question? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 03:22:27] * Vide wearing his brand new puppet labs t-shirt :) | ||
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| [2011/10/26 03:22:42] <RhysMorgan> My wife is wearing mine | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:22:43] <beddari> beddari: well I was wrong it seems metadata.json is required as the "standard" | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:22:45] <Vide> it's really cool! enusre => at_pub | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:23:22] <RhysMorgan> s/enusre/ensure :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:23:45] <beddari> helindbe: talking to myself, and to you .. ;) | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:24:11] <RhysMorgan> Can anyone point me to some documentation guidance around enterprise scale HA puppetmaster setup? | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:24:15] <beddari> helindbe: now my problem is to understand how I can do my workflow with Geppetto | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:24:17] @ Quit: pmorillon: Quit: pmorillon | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:25:17] <RhysMorgan> http://t.co/93sjBmjt | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:25:26] <RhysMorgan> ^ puppet t-shirt | ||
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| [2011/10/26 03:35:05] <Vide> RhysMorgan, exactly that t-shirt :) (well, without your wife :P) | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:35:55] <Vide> a collegue of mine went to PerconaLive yesterday and brought me back a puppetlabs tshirt | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:36:36] <crayfishx> I've only got a puppetconf one, failed to bag myself the official puppetlabs one :( | ||
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| [2011/10/26 03:37:46] <dcarley> i'm not sure that picture was SFW. | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:38:27] * Volcane has 2 big bags full of the previous gen puppetlabs tshirts, might bring along to the next ldndevops | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:38:37] <crayfishx> Ooh | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:38:39] <crayfishx> please :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:38:46] <crayfishx> save one for me ? | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:39:01] * Volcane just wants them gone | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:39:12] <Volcane> I can see the homeless of london all sporting puppetlabs shirts soon | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:39:18] <crayfishx> lol | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:40:15] <Vide> lol | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:41:04] * Spads always reads "lol" as that drooling noise homer simpson would make | ||
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| [2011/10/26 03:41:58] <RhysMorgan> I got one at puppet labs ldndevops last week | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:45:40] * crayfishx feels left out | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:45:59] <crayfishx> especially after making the 10,000 mile round trip to puppetconf | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:47:12] <nevyn> hrm free shirts want! | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:47:17] <n1x0n> same | ||
| [2011/10/26 03:48:48] <RhysMorgan> I only went for the pizza and came out with a new wardrobe :P | ||
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| [2011/10/26 03:59:56] <Vide> the changes in scope visibility of 2.7 http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/scope_and_puppet.html are already working in 2.6 ? | ||
| [2011/10/26 04:00:18] <Vide> I mean, I can already call $class::variable in 2.6? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 04:01:39] <kjetilho> yes | ||
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| [2011/10/26 04:09:48] <BadKarma> is there an easy way to manage /etc/hosts file in a way that puppet would take care of the entries such as local host entries + some others ie. ntp server, ldap... etc... and let the reminder of the entries unchanged? I guess what I need is the flexibility so that the file would be co-managed by puppet as well as by hand | ||
| [2011/10/26 04:11:43] <BadKarma> so i.e if the ldap server address changes, I want puppet to be able to change than without wiping out the rest hand added entries | ||
| [2011/10/26 04:17:37] @ Quit: Ramonster: Quit: So Long and thanks for all the fish | ||
| [2011/10/26 04:22:09] <Coff_> BadKarma: If you don't mind me asking; why would you want that? | ||
| [2011/10/26 04:22:48] <Coff_> I mean, one of the beautiful things about configuration management is that you get things nice and ordered, without too much 'random' stuff out there. | ||
| [2011/10/26 04:22:55] <BadKarma> Coff_: because we are new to puppet and the support guys will attempt to add entries manualy for the time being, before they are properly educated | ||
| [2011/10/26 04:22:56] <nevyn> BadKarma: just generate it from a template | ||
| [2011/10/26 04:23:19] <nevyn> why would there be manual management at all of that? | ||
| [2011/10/26 04:23:26] <robinbowes> BadKarma: that's a damned good reason to *not* support manually added entries! | ||
| [2011/10/26 04:23:37] <crayfishx> Doesn't the host resource type do just that? | ||
| [2011/10/26 04:23:43] <crayfishx> failing that, write something around augeas | ||
| [2011/10/26 04:23:48] <crayfishx> failing that, use DNS :) | ||
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| [2011/10/26 04:25:21] <BadKarma> ok... I will go and think about this one again | ||
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| [2011/10/26 04:34:33] <crayfishx> As for educating them, overwriting peoples manual changes with puppet is a great way to educate them :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 04:38:03] <edheldil> Hi all, is $a += $b <newline> $c = $a <newline> deterministic? Something is throwing "Puppet::Parser::AST::VarDef failed with error TypeError: can't convert Array into String" on a first update after a change | ||
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| [2011/10/26 04:43:56] <helindbe> beddari: glad to help if you have any questions about #geppetto and how it can be used | ||
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| [2011/10/26 04:58:01] <n1x0n> Am I correct that class inheritance is executed first even if try to use run stages ? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 05:07:16] <Volcane> class inheritance is a compile time concept | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:07:20] <Volcane> stages is run time | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:07:33] <Volcane> compile happens on the master, runs happen on the nodes | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:08:49] <n1x0n> I have the following problem: I have a module foo, this module created a file /etc/foo.conf, and provides several facts by parsing that file. I then have other modules which use these facts. The problem I'm having is getting foo done first so that compilation doesn't fail :-/ | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:09:18] <Volcane> facts gets read when puppet starts | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:09:21] <Volcane> then sent to the master | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:09:24] <Volcane> then the code gets compiled | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:09:27] <Volcane> and then the code gets run | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:09:29] <n1x0n> but even if I use run tages - facts are evaluated first, so compilation fails as /etc/foo.conf is not there | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:09:42] <Volcane> soooo you cant use facts in foo.conf in the run that you created foo.conf | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:10:25] <Volcane> "and then the code gets run" should be "and then the compiled code gets run" | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:10:45] <n1x0n> Volcane: thanks, let me digest that =] | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:11:14] <Volcane> facts are only used during the compile stage for the purpose of this example | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:11:18] <n1x0n> I was hoping I can solve this chicked & egg issue with run stages but doesn't seem to | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:11:30] <Volcane> so if you follow that flow top to bottom, there's no way you can use facts that u created mid-run | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:11:44] <Volcane> run stages only tweaks how the very last step happens | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:12:31] <n1x0n> so I would basically have to provide /etc/foo.conf _before_ first puppet run | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:12:40] <n1x0n> as facts are evaluated first , mmm | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:12:42] <n1x0n> ok | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:12:55] <Volcane> what ppl mostly do is create a environment that sets up these chicken and egg stuff | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:13:04] <Volcane> things like copy out facts or install some base rpms or whatever | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:13:18] <Volcane> then the first run runs just this tiny bootstrap environment | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:13:27] <Volcane> and then subsequent runs dont have this problem | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:13:54] <Volcane> well they have it to a lesser extent, if you edit your foo.conf it will only kick in on 2nd puppet run but thats okish | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:14:24] <n1x0n> crap | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:14:42] <Volcane> alternatively you need to make your code resilient to absent facts | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:14:49] <Volcane> class foo { if $bar { .... } } | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:14:53] <n1x0n> yeah that's what I have already where cobbler generates foo.conf, I was hoping to managed it all from puppet | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:14:57] <Volcane> that way foo will noop until your facts exist | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:16:07] <n1x0n> hmm | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:16:24] <n1x0n> thanks | ||
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| [2011/10/26 05:20:10] <robinbowes> Volcane: am just getting going with hiera | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:20:21] <robinbowes> Am getting an error when I try and use the puppet data source | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:20:22] <robinbowes> http://pastie.org/2761671 | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:20:47] <Volcane> did you install the puppet backend? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 05:20:51] <robinbowes> I created /etc/hiera.yaml | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:20:57] <robinbowes> puppet backend? | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:21:03] <robinbowes> hiera-puppet ge,? | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:21:03] <Volcane> you cant really install it with the gem cos puppet is dumb | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:21:09] <robinbowes> Ah, OK | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:21:10] <robinbowes> No then | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:21:13] <Volcane> you need to copy the puppet lib stuff out with pluginsync | ||
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| [2011/10/26 05:21:25] <robinbowes> Okaaaay... | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:21:31] <robinbowes> "puppet lib stuff" ? | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:21:51] <Volcane> there's a directory puppet/lib | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:21:54] <Volcane> errm, lib/puppet | ||
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| [2011/10/26 05:22:33] <robinbowes> in the hiera-puppet gem? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 05:27:27] <edheldil> Hi all, is $a += $b <newline> $c = $a <newline> deterministic? Something is throwing "Puppet::Parser::AST::VarDef failed with error TypeError: can't convert Array into String" on a first update after a change | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:27:47] <fragfutter> is b an array? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 05:29:58] <edheldil> yes | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:30:19] <edheldil> selector with array as a result, actually | ||
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| [2011/10/26 05:31:49] <Volcane> why dont you just show your actual code? | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:32:05] <Volcane> cos really thats the only way we can give you any help | ||
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| [2011/10/26 05:41:29] <edheldil> Volcane: sure, here it is: http://pastebin.com/9DdzC4kB | ||
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| [2011/10/26 05:43:35] <edheldil> when I do manual update with running puppetd from cli, first it reports "Puppet::Parser::AST::VarDef failed with error TypeError: can't convert Array into String" on the line with +=, second update works | ||
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| [2011/10/26 05:44:03] <Volcane> lines 3 and 4 is in what file? just top of some class file? | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:44:29] <edheldil> in the dns module | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:44:45] <Volcane> except they're not | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:44:50] <Volcane> cos they're not in a class { } | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:45:04] <_rc> the second update doesn't 'work', it just gives up on that manifest because it has syntax errors | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:45:05] <Volcane> so they're just dangling somewhere loose where they may or may not work | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:45:38] <edheldil> _rc: nah, it creates file with expected content | ||
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| [2011/10/26 05:47:41] <edheldil> Volcane: it is a way to provide variable defaults. It's described in several pages on puppet | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:48:06] <edheldil> they are defined in global scope, as that's where the module is imported to | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:48:13] <Volcane> the only place to put any variables that isnt in class {} or node {} is site.pp | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:48:24] <mbj> as a started with puppet, what is the best supported linux? | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:48:40] <Volcane> cos while it might look like its working, trust me there's a ton of edge cases where that will just not work for you | ||
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| [2011/10/26 05:51:49] <edheldil> So the (unofficial) puppet tutorials are wrong? Great :(\ | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:51:58] <Volcane> where do you see this? | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:52:36] <Volcane> that error - cant convert string to array - is raised cos your variable that you're trying to append to isnt set | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:52:46] <Volcane> ie. setting variables outside of class boundaries doesnt work | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:52:50] <Volcane> you can do something like | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:53:03] <Volcane> class dns { dns_hm_slave_zones = [] } | ||
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| [2011/10/26 05:53:13] <Volcane> and then where you wish to use dns_hm_slave_zones just use $dns::dns_hm_slave_zones = [] | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:53:19] <Volcane> $dns::dns_hm_slave_zones even | ||
| [2011/10/26 05:53:32] <Volcane> that puts it inside a class and works reliably | ||
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| [2011/10/26 06:00:45] <edheldil> Volcane: I can't find it anymore, sorry | ||
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| [2011/10/26 06:01:16] <edheldil> $dns::dns_hm_slave_zones WOULD redefine variable, would not it? | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:01:41] <Volcane> no it would do what u want - you want the variable initialized each time a node compile happens | ||
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| [2011/10/26 06:02:11] <Volcane> your example of variables outside of classes would only work like once per puppetmaster process after that it will fail | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:02:21] <edheldil> yes, but then I also want to be able to redefine it in a node | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:02:26] <Volcane> then when you touch that .pp file it will work again - once etc | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:02:58] <Volcane> then you shoud use parameterized classes or something like that | ||
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| [2011/10/26 06:04:15] <edheldil> requires too new puppet, I think we stilldon't have it everywhere | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:05:18] <edheldil> what's that "or something like that" ? :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:06:00] <edheldil> The idea was to have defaults in global scope, override then in node scope and use then in a class included into the node | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:06:47] <edheldil> (actually in a class included into a class included in to the node) | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:08:04] <Volcane> if $zones_override { $dns_hm_slave_zones = $zones_override } else { $dns_hm_slave_zones = [] } | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:08:07] <Volcane> grim | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:08:11] <Volcane> but thats the only way prior to param classes | ||
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| [2011/10/26 06:10:20] <edheldil> where to use it? In the dns module? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 06:10:37] <robinbowes> Volcane: pwd | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:10:40] <robinbowes> Ooops | ||
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| [2011/10/26 06:11:06] <robinbowes> Volcane:So, in /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/hiera-puppet-0.2.0 there is lib/puppet/parser | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:11:09] <_UsUrPeR_> I am having a problem with ssl_connect. My agent is saying that it can't certify the cert because the times are out of sync, but I am running ntpdate on the client, which has been set off the server | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:11:13] <robinbowes> Do I need to put that somewhere? | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:11:16] <_UsUrPeR_> what else would cause a problem like this? | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:11:23] <robinbowes> It's been a while since I did this...! | ||
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| [2011/10/26 06:27:39] <_UsUrPeR_> woo! got it. I needed to delete an old cert on my agent | ||
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| [2011/10/26 06:31:41] <robinbowes> So, I can't figure this out. I've installed hiera and hiera-puppet, and it works OK if I don't include the puppet backend in hiera.yaml | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:32:37] <robinbowes> However, if I add "- puppet" as a backend, I get this error: http://pastie.org/2761671 | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:33:22] <robinbowes> I'm not sure if this is because, a. I've not installed/copied the hiera bits to the right puppet location, or b. because I've not configured the hiera puppet backed correctly, or c. something else | ||
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| [2011/10/26 06:41:12] <robinbowes> Anyone got any idea? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 06:42:10] <ciupicri> is there an easy way to fill in a templae with the user id of a specific user, e.g. vmail? | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:42:29] <ciupicri> or if the template is easy enough should I just run a command? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 06:42:43] <robinbowes> What exactly do you want to achieve? | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:43:54] <ciupicri> robinbowes, generate a file with this content "[UID of vmail] dummy" and then run postmap on it, .i.e postmap /etc/postfix/virtual_uid_maps | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:44:04] <robinbowes> puppet uses erb templates which can include things like: <%= foo %>, and you can set $foo="bar" in your manifest | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:44:17] <robinbowes> ...before rendering the template | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:44:37] <robinbowes> But, you want to pull the UID of vmail from /etc/passwd? | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:44:46] <ciupicri> robinbowes, yes | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:45:36] <robinbowes> I'm not sure if there's a function for that - you may have to shell out to get that info | ||
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| [2011/10/26 06:45:56] <robinbowes> But I'm not familiar with all built-in functions | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:46:13] <ciupicri> robinbowes, id -u vmail returns the uid; but how do I glue it with the template? | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:46:57] <indigo> wikipedia says that in erb, lines starting with "%" are treated as ruby. The learning puppet documentation doesn't say that, and when I try it, wikipedia seems to be wrong. Is this some mutually incompatible change in versions that's going to bite me when I upgrade something? | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:47:35] <indigo> coincidentally the syntax highlighting in vim seems to agree with wikipedia's statement. | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:47:42] <ciupicri> brb | ||
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| [2011/10/26 06:56:14] <Volcane> robinbowes: the puppet backend isnt usable from the cli - cos it requires a working puppet instance and lives *inside* puppet. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 06:56:39] <robinbowes> Ahhhh | ||
| [2011/10/26 06:56:48] <robinbowes> Ok | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:02:22] <MrHeavy> ciupicri|away: You'll need to create a custom fact to pull that information | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:02:54] <MrHeavy> Facter will pass it at the beginning of each Puppet run and it will be up to your manifest to use or not use that data | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:06:58] <stn_> question, im notifying a class in which variables are used from same class but under another namespace, but i cant seem to get access to the variables in that notified class | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:10:03] <GioGio> hi everyone | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:11:56] <GioGio> I have a question about variables, how can I write something like file { "/tmp/$hostname_activ_interface.sh": but my variable is $hostname not $hostname_activ_interface ..... ? I didn't find something like this on the documentation. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:13:32] <kjetilho> ${hostname} | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:13:50] <jY-> ${hostname}_activ_interface.sh | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:14:11] <kjetilho> actually, you should write ${::hostname} to be explicit about it being a global variable | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:14:56] <GioGio> ok thanks :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:16:53] <joy> :quit | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:18:23] <prometheanfire> so... how do I disable certdnsnames? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:20:09] <prometheanfire> nevermind lol | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:23:00] <R1ck> notice: /File[/var/www/cacti/host_templates.php]/content: content changed '{md5}10cc022635e768326086ba3116f588c9' to '{md5}10cc022635e768326086ba3116f588c9' | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:23:07] <R1ck> how is that a change? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:23:15] <R1ck> the files are identical :| | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:23:32] <DSpair> What is the correct syntax for the "package" type to tell it to install a version >=X? | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:23:52] <DSpair> ensure => ">=X" doesn't seem to work. | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:23:57] <ciupicri> MrHeavy, thanks! Is it hard to create a custom fact or I'm better with a plain exec in my case? | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:25:54] <DSpair> Hmmm . . . According to http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/browse_thread/thread/54d320bcebd432fa, >= is not a valid option in the "package" type.... Poop! | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:26:50] <_rc> ensure => "X", has the same semantics of >=X | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:27:22] <_rc> though it may be provider dependant | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:31:07] <RhysMorgan> Sorry, off-topic but does anyone know of any open source tools for cross platform/windows patch management | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:36:50] <robinbowes> I'm thinking this is not a good day to be doing this, but I'm thinking about how best to set up a new puppet config, including 3 environments | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:37:15] <robinbowes> (pesky 8-year olds had a sleep-over last night and I'm a little weary!) | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:37:40] <dcarley> _rc: i don't believe so. it'll enforce a fixed version. downgrading if necessary, even if said package doesn't exist. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:37:45] <robinbowes> I'm having trouble thinking clearly about where best to define a source of truth | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:38:24] <robinbowes> i.e how best to assign nodes to environments, roles, etc. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:40:26] <robinbowes> I'm thinking I need an ENC, but Volcane's post on hiera [1] suggests I may not. [1] http://www.devco.net/archives/2011/06/11/puppet_backend_for_hiera_part_2.php | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:41:02] <prometheanfire> when I regenerate the CA and master certs, scan_certs still shows me as vulnerable | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:42:07] <zleslie> prometheanfire: only for a single cert, correct? | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:42:38] <prometheanfire> yes, the master one | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:42:57] <zleslie> robinbowes: we use branches and environments as the same thing. So we check out a branch, and then poof, we have a new environment. | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:43:02] <zleslie> prometheanfire: thats no worries | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:43:25] <prometheanfire> ah, ok | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:43:25] <zleslie> prometheanfire: the vuln is an issue with agents impersonating the master, which the master is allowed to do | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:43:35] <zleslie> prometheanfire: if that is the only cert, then you are all good | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:43:37] <robinbowes> zleslie: yes, I'm just trying to avoid duplication | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:43:49] <robinbowes> I inherited an older setup | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:43:51] <prometheanfire> oh, well, in that case I didn't need to do anything lol | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:44:07] <zleslie> prometheanfire: good excercise then, eh? :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:44:23] <zleslie> robinbowes: inherited infra is fun. we use hirea also | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:44:25] <prometheanfire> I'll just restore the ssl.old :D | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:44:26] <zleslie> what are you after? | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:44:32] <zleslie> meh, why | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:44:32] <MrHeavy> robinbowes: The best source of truth is going to depend a lot on the requirements of your environment, especially re: operations staff | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:44:57] <clustermagnet> whack: ping :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:45:02] <robinbowes> That would be just me at the moment :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:45:03] <clustermagnet> guys, where can i get help using fpm? :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:45:23] <clustermagnet> i fell in love with it yesterday, spining up apache rpms like peanuts :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:45:28] <zleslie> clustermagnet: perhaps the readme? | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:45:29] <clustermagnet> cant get php to work | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:45:35] <clustermagnet> zleslie: :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:45:55] <clustermagnet> zleslie: i wish dood | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:46:10] <zleslie> is there no readme? | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:46:13] <clustermagnet> http://pastie.org/2762275 | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:46:19] <clustermagnet> zleslie: oh, the wiki is quite nice | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:46:32] <zleslie> Ahh, never used it myself | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:46:36] <clustermagnet> oh | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:46:46] <adedommelin> I'm migrating my puppetmaster from one server to another fresh installed one, i've put my config on it, started my puppetmasterd which seems to work fine, but when I try to plug one of my node on the new server I got "err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: sslv3 alert bad certificate" | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:46:47] <zleslie> He has some good stuff on his github though | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:46:54] <prometheanfire> zleslie: because restoring the old reduced my load | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:46:58] <clustermagnet> zleslie: heck yes | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:47:14] <clustermagnet> i dont think you can ask a question on github... | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:47:18] <zleslie> adedommelin: sync over your ssl so your ca is the same, then restart your master and you will have a new cert to sign | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:47:19] <clustermagnet> wihs there was a mailing list or something... | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:47:39] <zleslie> prometheanfire: just make sure that scan_certs says you are in the clear | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:47:55] <zleslie> clustermagnet: just sent him a message on github | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:48:01] <prometheanfire> zleslie: only the master cert was ever sad | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:48:45] <zleslie> then ssl is happy | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:48:57] <prometheanfire> kk, thanks | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:49:02] <zleslie> yar | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:53:54] <adedommelin> zleslie: it now tells me : "err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Could not intern from pson: source did not contain any PSON!" :( | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:54:04] <adedommelin> that's strange | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:55:09] <zleslie> What is the version of you master and agents? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:55:41] <adedommelin> agent : puppet-2.6.6-3.el5 / master : puppet-server-2.6.6-3.el6.noarch | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:56:10] <zleslie> strange | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:56:31] <zleslie> and you moved the old ssl dir on to the new master? | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:56:35] <adedommelin> yes | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:56:40] <zleslie> can you run puppet agent on the master? | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:56:43] <zleslie> does that compile? | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:56:44] <adedommelin> and restarted masterd | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:57:00] <adedommelin> compile ? | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:57:43] <zleslie> When a node checks in with the master, it "compiles" a catalog for the agent to run against itself | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:58:10] <zleslie> adedommelin: what platform are you on? | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:58:18] <adedommelin> RHEL | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:58:24] <zleslie> rhel what? | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:58:28] <adedommelin> 6 | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:58:44] <adedommelin> (for the master, 5 for the node) | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:59:09] <zleslie> okay. Can you get master server to run the agent against itself? | ||
| [2011/10/26 07:59:34] <adedommelin> no same error ... | ||
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| [2011/10/26 07:59:46] <BadKarma> zleslie: yes | ||
| [2011/10/26 08:00:04] <adedommelin> wait, must me an error from my side, will retry from scrath (only takes a minute, i've a snapshot) | ||
| [2011/10/26 08:00:23] <zleslie> BadKarma: sup? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 08:04:54] <adedommelin> zleslie: works now | ||
| [2011/10/26 08:05:05] <adedommelin> must have failed somewhere, thanks for your time & sorry | ||
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| [2011/10/26 08:05:31] <zleslie> adedommelin: no trouble, glad you got it working | ||
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| [2011/10/26 08:28:23] <djandruczyk> IS it possible to pass an array of hashes to a class definition and having it run for each has in the array ? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 08:41:55] <zleslie> djandruczyk: no, but you could write a function in ruby to do that | ||
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| [2011/10/26 08:56:55] <djandruczyk> zleslie: any pointers to how? | ||
| [2011/10/26 08:57:23] <zleslie> djandruczyk: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/custom_functions.html | ||
| [2011/10/26 08:57:30] <djandruczyk> ty | ||
| [2011/10/26 08:57:35] <zleslie> np | ||
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| [2011/10/26 08:59:36] <djandruczyk> What I'm trying to do is have an array of hashes which contain a bunch of config info), pass that to a definition which will create one file (via a template) for each array entry, is that even possible? | ||
| [2011/10/26 08:59:37] <bluethundr> hello #puppet .. did the [main] header in the puppet.conf configuration file change in version 2.7.6? http://pastie.org/2762622 | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:08:56] <indigo> What's a good way to see what the effect of a module will be on a client? On the master, I can run "puppet apply --noop -e 'include MODULE'", but if I try that on a client I get "Could not find class MODULE". Is there something I can do differently? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:09:41] <walkeran> indigo: puppet agent -t --noop --tags "class-name" | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:09:53] <walkeran> indigo: Assuming that class is included in that nodes catalog | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:12:04] <indigo> walkeran: i was hoping to have a way to test what would happen when i did include the class in the node's catalog. I don't want to actually do it yet, because i'm just testing. | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:12:19] <walkeran> indigo: That's what the --noop is for | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:12:33] <indigo> walkeran: but then what's to stop a background agent that's running from doing it without --noop? | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:12:46] <walkeran> indigo: Nothing | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:13:05] <indigo> well, i can't exactly shut down all my puppet agents when i want to test something | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:13:07] <walkeran> indigo: I'd suggest testing on a different host that's not in production, if that's your concern. Either that or temporarily shut off the daemonized agent | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:13:41] <indigo> walkeran: you mean a non-production master, or non-production agent? | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:13:56] <walkeran> non-production agent | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:14:58] <walkeran> indigo: There's really all sorts of ways that you can set up different testing environments. Whatever works the best for you | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:15:46] <walkeran> personally I use puppet environments (production, staging, and dynamic envs that match my git branches), plus a couple of hosts that are dedicated to simply testing puppet module development | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:21:49] <indigo> walkeran: how do you know that when you bring a new puppet configuration to production it won't adversely affect all your production hosts? | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:22:16] <bluethundr> hi walkeran do you happen to know if the [main] header is compatible with version 2.7.6? | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:22:41] <bluethundr> in puppet.conf | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:23:15] <kelseyhightower> bluethundr: it should be, I don't remember that changing | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:23:21] <walkeran> indigo: Because I've sufficiently tested it against the "types" of hosts that it would affect, as well as (possibly), pulling some other machines out of production, shutting off their agents, and running it manually against my staging environment | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:23:36] <bluethundr> kelseyhightower: ok thanks | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:24:29] <bluethundr> the service starts and restarts but it throws this error | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:24:31] <bluethundr> err: Could not parse /etc/puppet/puppet.conf: Could not match line [main] at /etc/puppet/puppet.conf:[main] | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:24:42] <bluethundr> I just wasnt sure if this was anything to be concerned about | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:25:34] <walkeran> ie.. if I make a change that will affect "web" servers, as well as "photo delivery" servers (for example): I'll test against my "web" server that's dedicated to testing puppet module development.... and I'll also pull a "photo delivery" server out of circulation/production, and test it against my development or staging branch. Then I know the rest of the "web" servers will be fine, as well as all of the "photo delivery" servers | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:27:20] <imran-uk> given a built in like user, can someone remind me of the command to show the available params of this ? | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:27:36] <imran-uk> eg. if i want to see what managehome does | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:32:25] <Shanlar_> anybody here use puppet enterprise or does everyone just use the free version? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:33:21] <indigo> imran-uk: puppet describe user | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:36:31] <imran-uk> indigo, thats it thanks. however it is not working on my system "Could not parse for environment production: Could not find file .. " | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:36:40] <imran-uk> i'm using 0.25.5 | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:37:20] <indigo> imran-uk: i guess that's a really old version. | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:37:59] <indigo> imran-uk: at least, older than i'm using. but i can't be of much more help. I've been using puppet for all of two days. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:41:22] <robinbowes> imran-uk: pi | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:41:38] <imran-uk> indigo, np. i found oddities in 0.25 in debian lenny. i practived on 0.26 in squeeze which has lots of bugfixes. now i'm looking after a centos system. they seem to have done something with the versioning because the repo lists a puppet package with version=2.7.5 | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:48:27] <indigo> imran-uk: i think the version number of puppet actually made a jump like that. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:49:33] <walkeran> imran-uk, indigo: It went 0.24, 0.25, 2.6.x, 2.7.x | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:49:51] <imran-uk> robinbowes, almost missed that - thank you! | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:50:35] <imran-uk> walkeran, i see - kind of confusing but maybe they didn't want people thinging a >1.0 was not prod ready | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:51:00] <imran-uk> later | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:51:26] <walkeran> imran-uk: They just made the decision between 0.25 and 2.6 that the versioning scheme... nevermind, you left | ||
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| [2011/10/26 09:56:40] <FlexGuy> anybody running ubuntu server with KVM or virtual cloud and puppet ? | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:57:26] <walkeran> If anyone has ever dug into the storeconfigs database, I have a possibly quick question. I'm not understanding why there are tags (table puppet_tags) with names that are resource types.. for example, name= file,class,node,exec,service, etc. If anyone could shed some light on this for me, I'd be quite appreciative. | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:57:51] <agaffney> walkeran: puppet appears to do a lot of automatic tagging on resources | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:57:59] <walkeran> agaffney: Yeah I see that :D | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:58:04] <agaffney> resource type, the class it was created in, etc. | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:58:16] <agaffney> probably a convenience feature | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:58:42] <agaffney> the class it was created in is very handy for using --tags on the agent | ||
| [2011/10/26 09:59:08] <walkeran> I understand the name of a class being a tag, but I don't understand why the actual word "class" would be a tag | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:00:53] <agaffney> probably an over-reaching generalization in the auto-tagging code | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:01:03] <agaffney> is it hurting anything? | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:01:04] <walkeran> I can settle for that :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:01:30] <agaffney> I doubt that somebody purposely added code to add the 'class' tag | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:01:34] <walkeran> Nope... just trying to understand the db structure so I can do some shiny purdy inventory interfaces for our crew | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:01:39] <agaffney> that's just be silly :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:01:55] <walkeran> Yeaaah. I'd have to agree with ya there | ||
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| [2011/10/26 10:07:47] <jsnby> you should check out the inventory service if you want to build an inventory tool: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/inventory_service.html | ||
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| [2011/10/26 10:10:07] <walkeran> jsnby: Ooo, thanks! I didn't even know that something like this was in the works | ||
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| [2011/10/26 10:12:57] <walkeran> jsnby: This might not do quite everything I'm looking for, as I'll have to be able to do additional stuff like listing all of the managed files on a specific node, and listing all nodes that include a specific class, etc... but it's a start. I'll at least keep my eye on the project! | ||
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| [2011/10/26 10:19:17] <jsnby> walkeran: you might take a look at the puppet dashboard as it has a lot of that stuff you mentioned built in already | ||
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| [2011/10/26 10:27:57] <scottm01> Is there any way to avoid having a resource logged as "changed"? I use a template to generate a motd file that will always vary each puppet run; I've done backup=>false but it artifically inflates the # of changes reported in the dashboard. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 10:30:51] <eric0> scottm01: havent used this myself but 'audit=>false' is intended for that | ||
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| [2011/10/26 10:32:50] <Volcane> eric0: think that just surpresses the audit stuff doesnt make it not show up in changes etc | ||
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| [2011/10/26 10:33:42] <scottm01> eric0: Hm, it's at least a start I'll take a look now; doesn't appear as a parameter in the type reference for File | ||
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| [2011/10/26 10:35:38] <jamesturnbull> scottm01: it's a metaparameter | ||
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| [2011/10/26 10:39:44] <ashp> jamesturnbull: Hey, you still here/ | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:39:48] <scottm01> jamesturnbull: thanks, found it in the docs while trying to figure out why audit => false fails; it looks like it may be intended to cause an otherwise un-audited resource to be logged. I can make additional notices be sent but can't seem to supress it (by saying audit=>owner or something else that won't generally change) | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:39:50] <ashp> jamesturnbull: I just noticed something dumb about the PE 2.0 site | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:40:08] <ashp> jamesturnbull: If you follow the "Register now" link from http://puppetlabs.com/puppet/puppet-enterprise/ | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:40:15] <ashp> it tells you all about how if you wait until Oct 21st it's going to send you an email | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:40:34] <ashp> unless I have finally mastered time travel with just the power of my awesome mind | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:40:39] <ashp> then that's not so accurate | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:45:22] <jamesturnbull> ashp: lol thanks | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:45:56] <eric0> "You can't do that, Space Moose!" "I can do anything I want! I am the MASTER OF TIME!" | ||
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| [2011/10/26 10:47:17] <ashp> jamesturnbull: I actually wanted to download PE 2.0 and point it at host to see what that autodiscover stuff does | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:47:21] <ashp> for our legacy crap | ||
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| [2011/10/26 10:48:32] <barn> ashp: you have the old version of puppet that doesn't fully support time travel | ||
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| [2011/10/26 10:50:47] <kelseyhightower> ashp: you page maybe cached, can you refresh and try again? | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:51:31] <ashp> i dunno, i did and it still gave me the oct 21st date | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:51:35] <ashp> at http://puppetlabs.com/pe2-registration-thank-you/ | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:51:54] <ashp> i wonder if it's kosher to post jobs on puppet-users | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:52:11] <kelseyhightower> ashp: I see | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:52:48] <barn> kelseyhightower: it's not cached (: | ||
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| [2011/10/26 10:53:48] <jamesturnbull> ashp: it's fine to post them if you're hiring | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:53:52] <jamesturnbull> ashp: not so fine for recruiters | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:54:49] <ashp> I am definitely not a recruiter | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:54:52] <ashp> I don't even have a slick suit | ||
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| [2011/10/26 10:55:26] <ashp> i don't even have a job spec but it's like "automationy things and also some coding" so I might just wait until I have something more official | ||
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| [2011/10/26 10:59:26] <ashp> jamesturnbull: So how can I get a copy of PE 2 in the meantime to trial for my boss to see if he wants to splash out ;) | ||
| [2011/10/26 10:59:56] <jamesturnbull> ashp: it's not yet in beta - hopefully soon - ping nigel@puppetlabs.com to get added to the beta list | ||
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| [2011/10/26 11:00:39] <eric0> not shipping with known security problems > shipping on a particular day | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:00:44] <ashp> bbbbut the page said 5 days ago! | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:00:47] <ashp> yeah, definitely | ||
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| [2011/10/26 11:00:58] <ashp> i just had to listen to my boss talk about auditing and automation of all servers while he was on a conf call next to me | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:01:02] <ashp> and it reminded me that was a feature | ||
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| [2011/10/26 11:02:01] <ashp> the 'model existing machines' feature, i mean | ||
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| [2011/10/26 11:04:17] <macmichael01> Whats the best way to test out a puppet config? Also I thought I read somewhere that there is not a rollback feature. Perhaps rollback is not that important? | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:05:03] <anrxc> puppet agent --noop --test ? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 11:06:25] <jamesturnbull> ashp: I am not sure a new date has been announced - I am on the road and don't want to say anything I can't back up :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:06:40] <jamesturnbull> eric0: ^^ | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:06:56] <macmichael01> anrxc: that will do a test run but not actually install? looks like what I need. thanks | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:07:33] <anrxc> macmichael01: yes, exactly, you'll get a report on your terminal of what would be done | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:08:51] <fixxxermet> Does the gem package provider support options (http_proxy)? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 11:09:23] <jamesturnbull> fixxxermet: no but there is a patch from johnf floating around that adds it from memory | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:09:37] <fixxxermet> jamesturnbull: I came across that, didn't know if it made it into src | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:09:38] <fixxxermet> thanks | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:09:47] <fixxxermet> btw, love the book | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:10:08] <jamesturnbull> fixxxermet: it didn't because it's part of a bigger issue about how to add options to packages resources :( I think that's almost worked through | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:10:11] <jamesturnbull> fixxxermet: thanks | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:10:47] <jamesturnbull> eric0: ashp 11/14 is the new release date | ||
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| [2011/10/26 11:12:38] <ashp> outrageous!! | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:12:45] <ashp> you'll rue this day!! *fires up the lasers* | ||
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| [2011/10/26 11:16:58] <jamesturnbull> ashp: lol - we want it to be fresh baked and wholesome - so it needs a little more time in the oven. And no lasers. They'll burn the icing. | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:17:20] <ashp> Hmm, I do like icing. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 11:23:42] <yann3> Hello! Small variable scope question. Let´ s say I have a class A that includes class B and C. Class B defines a variable var. Class C includes a templates that uses variable var. Will var be defined in the template, or be undefined? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 11:31:11] <conner_> nate_h, what module are you using for network conf setting? | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:32:19] <jsnby> In one of my templates, I have : <% environments.each_pair do |p_env, value_hash| %> where environments is a hash. Is there a way to ensure that it traverses the keys of the hash in the same order each time? I'm seeing it flip flop back and forth from puppet run to puppet run | ||
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| [2011/10/26 11:38:56] <walkeran> jsnby: Take this with a grain of salt, because I've never done anything with Ruby+hashes, but I do believe there is a sort method for hashes, or something similar, that would ensure they are ordered the same each run | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:44:13] <jY> anyone know how to silence this? notice: /Stage[main]/Mysql::Disable/Service[mysql]/ensure: ensure changed 'running' to 'stopped' | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:44:24] <thedonvaughn> jsnby: environments.sort.each_pair but it'll turn it into an array | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:44:26] <thedonvaughn> er | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:44:27] <jY> even if the process is stopped.. just keeps showing up | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:44:30] <thedonvaughn> environments.sort jsnby | ||
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| [2011/10/26 11:45:24] <thedonvaughn> jsnby: environments.sort.each { |p_env, value_hash| } should do what you want | ||
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| [2011/10/26 11:47:32] <walkeran> jY: What does your Service['mysql'] resource definition look like? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 11:55:41] <jY> walkeran: turns out mysql is controled via upstart | ||
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| [2011/10/26 11:59:34] <walkeran> jY: Ahha.. that'll do it :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 11:59:57] <jY> anyone have any idea when upstart was added into puppet as a provider? | ||
| [2011/10/26 12:00:36] <jY> http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/3747 | ||
| [2011/10/26 12:00:40] <jY> from that looks like 2.7 | ||
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| [2011/10/26 12:11:15] <jamesturnbull> jY: it was 2.7.0 | ||
| [2011/10/26 12:12:56] <jY> thanks.. i guess now's a good time to upgrade | ||
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| [2011/10/26 12:49:24] <jsnby> thedonvaugh: Thanks. It works for me for now, but that method seems to have been removed in version 1.9 of ruby... | ||
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| [2011/10/26 12:53:18] <torrancew> jsnby: IIRC, puppet is only officially supported with 1.8.7... | ||
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| [2011/10/26 12:54:04] <jsnby> true, but trying to future proof myself | ||
| [2011/10/26 12:54:17] <Volcane> 1.9.2 since recent 2.7 | ||
| [2011/10/26 12:54:31] <jsnby> i don't want to have to revisit my code in the future | ||
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| [2011/10/26 12:58:37] <jsnby> found a workaorund: <% environments.keys.sort.each do |p_env| %> And i can then access: <% environments[p_env].each_pair do |key, value| %> | ||
| [2011/10/26 12:59:00] <abracadabararara> Anyone able to install Puppet Enterprise on 11.04? Or know a way around it? Getting "Can't find packages for platform: ubuntu-11.04-i386" | ||
| [2011/10/26 12:59:45] <abracadabararara> Can I just rename the package to ubuntu-11.04-i386 | ||
| [2011/10/26 12:59:48] <abracadabararara> ? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 13:05:18] <walkeran> jsnby: Does <hash>.keys.sort work in Ruby 1.8.7, too? Just curious | ||
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| [2011/10/26 13:05:45] <torrancew> walkeran: seems to work over here | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:05:58] <walkeran> torrancew: Awesom. Good to know :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:06:11] <torrancew> ah, wait | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:06:19] <torrancew> fails if the hash keys are symbols, can't compare | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:06:43] <torrancew> works fine if they're sortable, though | ||
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| [2011/10/26 13:08:18] <Volcane> hash.keys.sort_by{|k| k.to_s} | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:08:42] <Volcane> sorts the key list even if the keys are symbols | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:09:03] <torrancew> good to know | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:09:15] <torrancew> I was overriding the Symbol class with a <=> method XD | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:09:23] <Volcane> yeah i do that too | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:09:27] @ Quit: gniks: Ping timeout: 252 seconds | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:09:36] <Volcane> but not a good idea in something like a template | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:09:41] <torrancew> definitely | ||
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| [2011/10/26 13:11:10] <indigo> so i have a best practices question: i'm trying to deal with a situation where someone created an admin account on some of my hosts that shouldn't exist. I'd like to encapsulate the fix, which is a simple user {...ensure=>absent}, but also the list of nodes on which that user needs to be killed, in one place, and preferably not mix it up with non-kludge-fixing code. What's a way to do that? | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:11:41] <indigo> I thought maybe I'd make a fix_busted_admins.pp, and include it from site.pp, but then I can't define one node multiple times. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 13:25:43] <cr3> is there a way to get the absolute path of the file running puppet code? | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:26:39] <cr3> for example, if I do puppet apply manifests/site.pp, in that file, I'd like to get the equivalent of `pwd`/manifests/site.pp or even just the parent directory would be nice | ||
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| [2011/10/26 13:41:37] <cr3> or, how can I get the manifestdir from within a puppet script? | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:42:07] <Volcane> $settings::manifestdir | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:42:52] <Volcane> why do you need the path to the script? | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:42:55] <cr3> Volcane: thanks! that just opened a whole new world for me, ie $settings::* | ||
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| [2011/10/26 13:43:59] <cr3> Volcane: my project has a puppet directory from which you can run: puppet apply --manifestdir=puppet/manifests --modulepath=puppet/modules puppet/manifests/site.pp | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:45:07] <cr3> Volcane: I define classes for the project called from nodes with an optional basedir parameter so, when it's not defined, I'd like it to default to something sane based on the manifestdir | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:45:42] <cr3> Volcane: in production, the basedir would be hard coded to what's actually expected on the filesystem, so this is mostly a convenience in a development environment | ||
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| [2011/10/26 13:48:33] <Volcane> but why do you need to know where the files are - mostly there is no reason at all for this? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 13:50:25] <Volcane> everything just works base on teh dirs defined for the environment in the config | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:50:32] <Volcane> source, template etc, its all environment aware | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:50:41] <cr3> Volcane: lets say I need to generate an apache virtualhost that points to some cgi or wsgi script in my project, I need to determine its path which I can achieve based on the manifestdir | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:50:56] <Volcane> you generally dont need to know file locations | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:51:19] <cr3> Volcane: generally, I see paths hard coded to locations even in classes | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:51:36] <Volcane> you're probably doing it wrong then, show an example? | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:52:48] <ashp> generally in my experience | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:52:50] <ashp> when I argue with volcane | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:52:55] <ashp> In a few hours I realize he was totally right | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:53:03] <ashp> so you might wanna skip ahead because it sucks when you realize that | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:53:19] <cr3> Volcane: lets say I'm generating a virtualhost entry for apache, it might contain something like: Alias /favicon.ico /opt/<%= site %>/production/static/foo/favicon.ico | ||
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| [2011/10/26 13:53:48] <Volcane> ok - so that isnt the path to where your manifests are though? | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:53:55] <selenamarie> what installs files in /var/lib/puppet or /usr/share/puppet? is that puppet-module? | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:54:12] <cr3> Volcane: that's what I generally see in templates where root directories like /srv, /opt, /usr/local are hard coded in classes, templates, etc. | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:54:22] <selenamarie> sorry - stuff that's in a lib subdirectory. | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:54:33] <cr3> Volcane: instead, what I want is: Alias /favicon.ico <%= basedir %>/static/foo/favicon.ico | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:54:40] <Volcane> thats wrong | ||
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| [2011/10/26 13:54:56] <Volcane> you should copy from your modules to the box | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:55:05] <Volcane> not just copy your modules to somewhere and serve str8 from that location | ||
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| [2011/10/26 13:55:20] <zaargy> w | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:55:30] <zaargy> opps. lag. | ||
| [2011/10/26 13:56:47] <cr3> Volcane: ok, I'll need to think about that for a while to see how it fits with the maintenance of the service over time | ||
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| [2011/10/26 13:57:48] <cr3> Volcane: just to compare notes, lets say a project is under revision control and gets maintained by pulling from there, files like apache virtual host entries should never point to the branched code but to where it gets installed, right? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 14:07:46] <tris> hey guys, what do you do when multiple modules require the same Package? do you create a new module/class for each package? (a common case is perl modules -- libwww-perl, libio-socket-ssl-perl...) | ||
| [2011/10/26 14:07:56] <BLZbubba> can someone help me with an array combination problem? i'm trying to have a default array in a module but with the ability to add more entries to the array in the node definition | ||
| [2011/10/26 14:08:16] <BLZbubba> but it just ends up adding 'undef' | ||
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| [2011/10/26 14:08:48] <BLZbubba> it is a list of ldap groups | ||
| [2011/10/26 14:08:52] <the_ramink> tris: recently I decided to put all one off packages into a virtual packages module and then realize them as needed. | ||
| [2011/10/26 14:08:54] <the_ramink> https://github.com/rkhatibi/rdk-puppet-modules/blob/master/vpackages/manifests/init.pp | ||
| [2011/10/26 14:09:37] <tris> the_ramink: aha, this looks cool, thanks! | ||
| [2011/10/26 14:10:09] <the_ramink> tris | ||
| [2011/10/26 14:10:19] <the_ramink> tris: np | ||
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| [2011/10/26 14:11:47] <BLZbubba> inside the node definition i'm doing: $localgroups = [ 'dev' ] ; inside the module it puts it together like this: $logingroups = [ 'it', $localgroups ] | ||
| [2011/10/26 14:11:56] <BLZbubba> and i end up with: 'it', undef | ||
| [2011/10/26 14:12:44] <tris> the_ramink: what's the @ in package {} ? I haven't seen that syntax before. and how do you actually select which ones you need? or do you literally just install everything everywhere? | ||
| [2011/10/26 14:12:47] <BLZbubba> this worked before i made it into a module, i may just have the scoping rules wrong or something | ||
| [2011/10/26 14:13:48] <the_ramink> tris: virtual resources, http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/language_guide.html#virtual-resources | ||
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| [2011/10/26 14:14:21] <tris> aha | ||
| [2011/10/26 14:14:53] <the_ramink> tris: here's an example from mysql realizing some extra tools, https://github.com/rkhatibi/rdk-puppet-modules/blob/master/mysql/manifests/install.pp | ||
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| [2011/10/26 14:15:36] <the_ramink> in my case vpackages is included in my basenode, but does nothing till a particular package gets realized. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 14:16:36] <lindenle__> Hey guys can import be used for any file content, like lets say I want to import bob.pp into a node statement. | ||
| [2011/10/26 14:17:27] <zahna> i've seen it happen where, when i update a file and the owner is not root, the file is set to be owned by root, then fixed in the subsequent puppet run. i'm running puppet 2.6.6 (from epel). is this known/fixed? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 14:18:21] <zahna> this seems to happen fairly often. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 14:27:45] <DSpair> Hmmm . . . Is there an issue with Google Groups? | ||
| [2011/10/26 14:27:58] <DSpair> I can't get to the puppet-users list on Google Groups... | ||
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| [2011/10/26 14:28:49] <DSpair> I can get to the main page of Google groups, but not the puppet-users list... Weird... | ||
| [2011/10/26 14:29:44] <DSpair> I can get to other groups.... WAY STRANGE! | ||
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| [2011/10/26 14:46:10] <jsm> i'm trying to wrap my head around puppet and ec2... chicken and egg problem I guess. if a launch a ec2 instance and install puppet and point it to my puppetmaster, how does my puppetmaster get informed of the instance so when the instance connects it gets configured properly ? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 14:48:55] <jsm> can roles be defined on the puppet client some how maybe? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 14:54:05] <kelseyhightower> jsm: I think you can get close with puppet tags | ||
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| [2011/10/26 14:54:38] <kelseyhightower> jsm: not sure how old this is: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/1/wiki/Using_Tags | ||
| [2011/10/26 14:55:29] <ken_barber1> jsm: the ec2 fact may help - it taps into ec2 userdata | ||
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| [2011/10/26 14:58:36] <eightbits> I need to generate a file or files from puppet to configure an app. In thie file, I need to have essentially the same lines repeated over and over again for each client we support. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 14:59:31] <eightbits> I have a hash of hashes in puppet that gives us information about each client. Is it better to generate multiple files, one per client, or to put some Ruby into a template and generate a single file? | ||
| [2011/10/26 14:59:48] <eightbits> I'm looking to avoid long-term pitfalls that I may not see associated with either method. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 15:01:28] <the_ramink> jsm: you can also play with regex /^fe\d+\.mydomain\.com/ on your node definitions and pass --certname fe03.mydomain.com when you kick off puppet. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 15:12:54] <jsnby> hey BLZBubba...I've done that before. Check this: http://www.mail-archive.com/puppet-users@googlegroups.com/msg05755.html | ||
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| [2011/10/26 15:25:28] <BLZbubba> jsnby: cool i'll check it out | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:25:40] <BLZbubba> i'm getting weird syntax errors when i try to make my module class take a parameter | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:26:14] <BLZbubba> the appending itself works with an in-scope array | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:26:27] <BLZbubba> it is passing the array from the node definition into the module class that is causing trouble | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:26:40] <BLZbubba> i think i'm too old school, i'm used to defining globals and then having the class read them | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:27:00] <BLZbubba> which is lame and modules don't seem to work this way at all | ||
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| [2011/10/26 15:28:22] <BLZbubba> and to make it more difficult, i have a "default" class that loads this module class | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:28:32] <BLZbubba> so it has conflict issues too | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:28:52] <BLZbubba> Syntax error at 'ldap::login'; expected '}' at .... | ||
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| [2011/10/26 15:29:34] <BLZbubba> caused by: class { ldap::login: localgroups = [ 'Marketing', 'Development' ] } | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:29:37] <clustermagnet> guys, trying to wrap my head around managing apache vhosts | ||
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| [2011/10/26 15:29:51] <clustermagnet> if in vhost.conf i say include conf/extra/websites/*.conf | ||
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| [2011/10/26 15:30:03] <clustermagnet> or… i can use templates | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:30:15] <torrancew> BLZbubba: try quoting your 'ldap::login' and changing '=' to '=>' | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:30:35] <kelseyhightower> clustermagnet: templates work, or you can go one per file | ||
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| [2011/10/26 15:31:14] <clustermagnet> kelseyhightower: uhm, is there a way for puppet to upload a directory worth of files to remote? | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:31:23] <clustermagnet> i think im reading about it, but not understand how to use it :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:31:29] <clustermagnet> the recurse directive, or something | ||
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| [2011/10/26 15:31:48] <kelseyhightower> clustermagnet: yep | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:31:57] <clustermagnet> kelseyhightower: do you mind pointing me to an example :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:32:03] <kelseyhightower> clustermagnet: hmm | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:32:14] <kelseyhightower> clustermagnet: of how to use the recursive directory? | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:32:19] <clustermagnet> i would love for puppet:///files/apache/config/websites/* to -> /usr/local/apche/conf/extra/websites/ recursively | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:32:20] <BLZbubba> torrancew: ah it was operator error :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:32:37] <clustermagnet> i think i got it though :) | ||
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| [2011/10/26 15:33:14] <kelseyhightower> clustermagnet: ok | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:33:38] <kelseyhightower> clustermagnet: use the file type | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:33:39] <clustermagnet> ie, let me try this, hold my beer :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:33:40] <clustermagnet> brb | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:33:46] <clustermagnet> yes, ensure directory | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:33:48] <clustermagnet> then recursive | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:33:49] <clustermagnet> one sec ;) | ||
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| [2011/10/26 15:34:14] <kelseyhightower> clustermagnet: yep, puppet is easy like that | ||
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| [2011/10/26 15:34:43] <BLZbubba> torrancew: heh ok last bug, it is combining the strings in the array into one string | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:35:28] <cosman2001> can I override the error that gets thrown the the puppet agent log in an exec? | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:35:31] <torrancew> ah, yes, I don't know if there's a way around that other than an inline_template call that strips them back into an array, TBH | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:36:28] <clustermagnet> oh, question | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:36:31] <clustermagnet> gurs | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:36:51] <clustermagnet> lets say i have a node…. and i say $env = 'prod', and include webserver | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:36:59] <clustermagnet> may i use that variable in webserver class? | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:36:59] <clustermagnet> :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:37:06] <clustermagnet> do variables trickle down? i dont remeber | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:37:24] <kelseyhightower> There is some scoping, what version of Puppet are you using? | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:37:32] <clustermagnet> latest | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:37:36] <clustermagnet> 275 i think or 276 | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:37:47] <clustermagnet> i think scoping is vertical | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:37:55] <clustermagnet> let me rtf | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:38:27] <kelseyhightower> clustermagnet: that $env should be available as it is defined in the top scope of the node | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:38:29] <BLZbubba> inline_template? | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:39:20] <kelseyhightower> clustermagnet: the scope get tricky when you declare the same var in many places. Make sure to qualify your vars -- noted in the docs | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:39:31] <clustermagnet> ya | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:39:34] <torrancew> BLZbubba: it basically allows you to use ERB in one-liners | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:39:38] <clustermagnet> im starting to think i should use templates | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:39:39] <clustermagnet> ;) | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:39:53] <kelseyhightower> clustermagnet: I like templates | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:40:15] <BLZbubba> maybe i just need split | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:40:41] <the_ramink> clustermagnet: I do tempaltes with defines for vhosts, https://github.com/rkhatibi/rdk-puppet-modules/blob/master/apache/manifests/vhost.pp | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:40:53] <clustermagnet> the_ramink: fuk ya, thanks man :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:42:41] <torrancew> BLZbubba: ya, you could do a split inside of a call to inline_template() | ||
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| [2011/10/26 15:42:48] <torrancew> unless puppet has its own split that I didn't know about | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:43:26] <BLZbubba> i think it does: http://blog.kumina.nl/tag/inline_template/ | ||
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| [2011/10/26 15:44:02] <BLZbubba> but of course i get an error about a private method when i try to use it, hmm | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:44:23] <torrancew> BLZbubba: what syntax are you using? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 15:45:03] <BLZbubba> inside the login class: $localgrouplist = split( $localgroups, ',' ) | ||
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| [2011/10/26 15:45:18] <BLZbubba> Error 400 on SERVER: private method `split' called for ... | ||
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| [2011/10/26 15:47:04] <Volcane> whats the full error? | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:49:55] <BLZbubba> Error 400 on SERVER: private method `split' called for ["Development,Marketing"]:Array at /var/lib/puppet/puppetsvn/modules/ldap/manifests/init.pp:15 | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:50:15] <Volcane> you can only split strings | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:50:19] <BLZbubba> ok i'm a moron | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:50:37] <BLZbubba> i think | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:51:04] <BLZbubba> that's weird, i can't pass in an array but it appears to be an array anyway? | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:51:26] <chrismcc> Can someone look at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/browse_thread/thread/23cb86b54677e22c (my message to the list) and let me know what I am doing wrong? | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:51:36] <BLZbubba> i still had the array brackets around my list | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:51:40] <torrancew> BLZbubba: try this: | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:51:49] <torrancew> inline_template(local.split(/,/)) | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:51:50] <torrancew> err | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:51:58] <torrancew> inline_template("<%= local.split(/,/)%>") | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:52:20] <Volcane> BLZbubba: show the code in context, you're trying to split an array | ||
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| [2011/10/26 15:53:39] <BLZbubba> Volcane: i want to pass a list of ldap groups allowed to log in, so my module originally had this class: class ldap::login( $localgroups = [] ) | ||
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| [2011/10/26 15:53:47] <BLZbubba> defaulting to no extra groups | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:54:09] <BLZbubba> then i tried passing in [ 'Development', 'Marketing' ] and it combined them into one string: DevelopmentMarketing | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:54:24] <Volcane> u can pass arrays around | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:54:28] <Volcane> just dont use them like strings | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:55:10] <BLZbubba> well i wasn't at first, i was trying to add the ones passed in to a default group like this: $groups = [ 'IT', $localgroups ] | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:55:34] <BLZbubba> and it looks like it magically combined the $localgroups array into the concatenated string above | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:56:39] <Volcane> thats cos you created ["IT", ["foo", "bar"]] and then probably used the data wrong | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:56:43] <Volcane> anyway | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:56:49] <Volcane> i cant be bothered to ask to see the code again | ||
| [2011/10/26 15:56:53] <Volcane> so good luck to you | ||
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| [2011/10/26 16:01:13] <BLZbubba> heh | ||
| [2011/10/26 16:01:38] <BLZbubba> that is good enough to get me on the right track i think | ||
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| [2011/10/26 16:03:15] <torrancew> chrismcc: could be that the order of execution isn't what you expect. Have you tried using the require => directive, to enforce the order you seem to be expecting? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 16:03:52] <chrismcc> It isn't the order AFAIKT | ||
| [2011/10/26 16:05:11] <chrismcc> is seems to be something with the file {} in the subclass vs. the file {} in it's own class | ||
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| [2011/10/26 16:11:06] <Volcane> its order | ||
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| [2011/10/26 16:11:42] <Volcane> and really if you're thinking you want to use multiple levels of inheritance (or even one) you should probably start fresh and think of a different way | ||
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| [2011/10/26 16:12:13] <chrismcc> k , thanks | ||
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| [2011/10/26 16:32:53] <chrismcc> torrancew: and Volcane: that did the trick! since puppet uses a declarative language I wouldn't think it would matter, but switching the include stanzas around does what I want. thanks again | ||
| [2011/10/26 16:33:20] <torrancew> chrismcc: you'll be better off with require statements than hoping your code's order will be puppet's order of execution | ||
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| [2011/10/26 16:34:27] <chrismcc> torrancew: yea, that;'s why I thought order couldn't matter. my test case _always_ failed , not 50/50 success/failure. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 16:42:53] <BLZbubba> so i guess there is still no way to join arrays in puppet? | ||
| [2011/10/26 16:43:10] <BLZbubba> and the classic += doesn't seem to work at all in modules | ||
| [2011/10/26 16:45:16] <BLZbubba> there must be a better way | ||
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| [2011/10/26 16:47:55] <mosen> there's plusignment but i think that applies to inherited types | ||
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| [2011/10/26 16:51:14] <the_ramink> I'm not sure I understood resource chaining very well at the class level. It seems that Class['foo'] -> Class['baz::install'] ignores any subclasses in foo. Here's an eample. http://pastie.org/2764923 | ||
| [2011/10/26 16:52:00] <Volcane> yes it ignores sub classes | ||
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| [2011/10/26 16:52:29] <BLZbubba> mosen: yeah it is a huge weakness | ||
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| [2011/10/26 16:53:42] <the_ramink> Volcane: Thanks for the confirmation. Was running around in circles most of the afternoon before it dawned on me thtat might be the case. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 17:31:44] <cwebber_> has anyone seen a working cpan provider for the package type? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 19:11:21] <EspadaV8> Hi, I'm trying to work out just how much control puppet should have over installed software on a system. I'm using a Kickstart file for automated CentOS installs in a VM and want to make sure that certian packages are installed. For fresh installs I can just add things to the KS file, but then I'd need to make sure that both puppet config files and the KS files are in sync | ||
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| [2011/10/26 19:11:49] <EspadaV8> i'm just wondering if it's best to try and do this kind of package management with puppet or now | ||
| [2011/10/26 19:11:52] <EspadaV8> *not | ||
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| [2011/10/26 19:15:54] <devdas> EspadaV8, just add Puppet into kickstart, then let Puppet handle everything else | ||
| [2011/10/26 19:16:07] <devdas> Remember to install ntpd in the KS as well | ||
| [2011/10/26 19:16:43] <EspadaV8> yeah, i have some base packages in the KS file, like puppet, ntpd, vim, httpd, mysql | ||
| [2011/10/26 19:16:58] <EspadaV8> but looking at the PHP modules that need to be installed | ||
| [2011/10/26 19:17:18] <EspadaV8> adding them to the KS kind of makes sense since then they're there from the start | ||
| [2011/10/26 19:17:36] <EspadaV8> adding them to puppet makes sense so that all other nodes get them too | ||
| [2011/10/26 19:17:53] <EspadaV8> yeah, i think you're right | ||
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| [2011/10/26 20:01:37] <dan__t_> because I was going to say "god damnit I've been troubleshooting this for so long, I need a hand". | ||
| [2011/10/26 20:01:40] <dan__t_> Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Could not intern from pson: source did not contain any PSON! | ||
| [2011/10/26 20:01:48] <dan__t_> What causes that? I read mismatched puppet versions, but that's not the case. | ||
| [2011/10/26 20:02:10] <mosen> I've only seen it when i had a 2.7.x client try to use a 2.6.x puppet master | ||
| [2011/10/26 20:02:15] <dan__t_> hrm | ||
| [2011/10/26 20:02:46] <EspadaV8> golly gosh, there are so many modules out there for pretty much everything, and they all seem so complicated | ||
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| [2011/10/26 20:03:23] <mosen> dan__t_, maybe temporarily try disabling reports or enc | ||
| [2011/10/26 20:03:31] <dan__t_> enc? | ||
| [2011/10/26 20:03:36] <dan__t_> Weird stuff, too - "Failed to apply catalog: Parameter path failed: File paths must be fully qualified, not 'undef' at" | ||
| [2011/10/26 20:03:41] <mosen> external node classification | ||
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| [2011/10/26 20:03:48] <dan__t_> I've never had that before; it's complaining about Volcane's concat module, which I've enver ever had a problem with | ||
| [2011/10/26 20:03:50] <dan__t_> I don't use enc | ||
| [2011/10/26 20:03:52] <mosen> ahh strange | ||
| [2011/10/26 20:04:02] <dan__t_> nor do i use reports | ||
| [2011/10/26 20:04:04] <dan__t_> something is up | ||
| [2011/10/26 20:04:11] <mosen> that is the limit of my suggestions then :) | ||
| [2011/10/26 20:04:12] <dan__t_> not even using mongrel - just straight puppetd | ||
| [2011/10/26 20:04:27] <dan__t_> i'm way behind schedule, might end up yanking puppet this round | ||
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| [2011/10/26 20:14:47] <dan__t_> well. half my shit isn't getting applied. | ||
| [2011/10/26 20:14:50] <dan__t_> i'm buggin'. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 20:41:15] <dan__t_> ain't using puppet for this. | ||
| [2011/10/26 20:41:24] <dan__t_> suck it, rhel and ruby. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 22:03:02] <rperkins> If I want to upgrade from puppet 6 to puppet 7 should I upgradde my server first or my clients? | ||
| [2011/10/26 22:03:22] <jamesturnbull> rperkins: server first | ||
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| [2011/10/26 22:09:15] <TheDigitalNinja> Is server 2.7 backwards compatible with 2.6 clients? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 22:13:00] <mosen> TheDigitalNinja, I just have a test setup and that seems to work ok here. but client newer than server doesn't | ||
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| [2011/10/26 22:13:44] <TheDigitalNinja> alright cool, clients won't be far off from being upgraded once server is. I just really need puppet to apply the configs after the servers are reprovisioned. | ||
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| [2011/10/26 22:30:22] <Rince> Good morning | ||
| [2011/10/26 22:31:52] <EspadaV8> is there a human readable changelog anywhere? | ||
| [2011/10/26 22:33:10] <EspadaV8> ah, release notes, not changelog | ||
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| [2011/10/26 22:56:27] <blkperl> yeah you should be able to search for them off the google group | ||
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| [2011/10/26 23:09:14] <ssuu> hi | ||
| [2011/10/26 23:10:15] <ssuu> can anyone tell me waht are steps i need to follow to migarte from 0,25,5 to 2.7.5 puppet server? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 23:14:19] <sarkis_> any reason not to install puppet via gem on a production machine? | ||
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| [2011/10/26 23:27:45] <bob2> do you want your prod systems to have a toolchain installed | ||
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| [2011/10/26 23:29:37] <sako> huhwut? | ||
| [2011/10/26 23:29:45] <sako> i lost you | ||
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| [2011/10/26 23:44:18] <sako> on another note is there a good puppet starter template somewhere? | ||
| [2011/10/26 23:44:21] <sako> i found http://bitfieldconsulting.com/files/powering-up-with-puppet.tar.gz | ||
| [2011/10/26 23:44:37] <sako> from 2009 though, wondering if theres a newer one with latest best practices | ||
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| [2011/10/26 23:47:31] <TheDigitalNinja> example42 is what I used | ||
| [2011/10/26 23:47:35] <nevyn> sako: start with something small | ||
| [2011/10/26 23:48:02] <nevyn> sako: particularly if you're trying to do retrofit/remediation | ||
| [2011/10/26 23:48:46] <TheDigitalNinja> http://www.example42.com/?q=How_to_Setup_a_PuppetMaster this is what I used. Lots of good example modules just to look at on their github | ||
| [2011/10/26 23:50:07] <sako> thx | ||
| [2011/10/26 23:50:31] <fragfutter> if you start new, prepare to refactor a few times ;) | ||
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| [2011/10/26 23:53:31] <nevyn> fragfutter: we need to do a refactor sigh | ||
| [2011/10/26 23:53:36] <nevyn> not looking forward to that. | ||
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