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| [2011/10/30 03:52:24] <Harzilein> hi | ||
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| [2011/10/30 03:53:09] <Harzilein> where do you keep your mysql administrator password when setting up mysql? | ||
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| [2011/10/30 04:41:36] <Must`see1> NBA LOCKOUT END's,finelly,chech more info in http://www.krepsininkas.net/invite.php?invite=5450 | ||
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| [2011/10/30 05:36:00] <cityLights> how to test an erb i wrote | ||
| [2011/10/30 05:36:11] <cityLights> can I have puppet "dry-run" | ||
| [2011/10/30 05:37:23] <|Majestic|> syntex checking is at bottom of this page: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/templating.html. Way I test a new module ive written is use: puppet agent --test --noop | ||
| [2011/10/30 05:38:25] <|Majestic|> the noop flag is non-operation - meaning it wont make any changes. After your happy - drop the flag and it will do what you asked. | ||
| [2011/10/30 05:38:51] <|Majestic|> to get a little more info out you can also add the --verbose flag but ive not needed to personaly. | ||
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| [2011/10/30 05:49:00] <Fecn> Hi Folks - I'm not a puppet newbie, but clearly I've forgotten what I did 12 months ago when I set this up before. I'm trying to get puppet working with passenger.. have installed the required pacakges (Ubuntu 10.04), set up the apache configs, put a config.ru in the right place.... SSL is working OK, but I'm getting a 404 error when fetching /production/catalogs/<nodename>?facts_format..... | ||
| [2011/10/30 05:49:04] <Fecn> What have I forgotten to do? | ||
| [2011/10/30 05:49:16] <Fecn> This is a fresh install btw | ||
| [2011/10/30 05:50:09] <cityLights> |Majestic|, thanks | ||
| [2011/10/30 05:50:18] <|Majestic|> np anytine. | ||
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| [2011/10/30 06:09:55] <Fecn> Never mind.. fixed it now | ||
| [2011/10/30 06:10:01] <Fecn> it was bad config.ru | ||
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| [2011/10/30 06:49:37] <jsm> i can't for the life of me get my define to evaluate a hash properly... my notice($myhash) seems to print out a big flattened string of all the keys and elements, but if I try to notice($myhash['key']) nothing is returned. | ||
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| [2011/10/30 06:56:12] <walterheck> is it possible to check in a recipe if a resource has been defined yet? | ||
| [2011/10/30 06:57:30] <walterheck> I have an apt repo that is located in a certain folder, and to create the vhost for it i use that dir as the docroot. The vhost define automatically tries to define that folder, which is normally fine, but in this specific case fails. Ideas? | ||
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| [2011/10/30 08:56:54] <bencc> is it possible to set mysql root password using puppet and create a db and user? | ||
| [2011/10/30 08:59:13] <agaffney> absolutely | ||
| [2011/10/30 08:59:50] <bencc> agaffney: how? | ||
| [2011/10/30 09:09:21] <agaffney> bencc: there are multiple methods | ||
| [2011/10/30 09:09:30] <agaffney> a little googling will give you information on many of them | ||
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| [2011/10/30 09:10:33] <agaffney> bencc: puppet has no direct control of mysql, but you can use execs or custom types/providers to make it work | ||
| [2011/10/30 09:11:12] <jsm> agaffney: you have any luck getting create_resources to work? | ||
| [2011/10/30 09:11:36] <jsm> i'm trying to pass hash to a define... and it doesn't really work | ||
| [2011/10/30 09:12:10] <jsm> $name is evaluated as a flattened string, and $name['key'] returns nothing | ||
| [2011/10/30 09:12:51] <jsm> $name is indeed a hash (or so i thought) since when i mistakenly tried to split, puppet complained. | ||
| [2011/10/30 09:24:18] <NuclearLucifer> bencc, You can also write your custom functions and execute them from you manifests. | ||
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| [2011/10/30 09:31:53] <pippo_69> !list | ||
| [2011/10/30 09:31:58] <agaffney> jsm: yes, I've got a custom parser function that's using create_resources() | ||
| [2011/10/30 09:32:40] <jsm> can create_resources accept an array of hashes? | ||
| [2011/10/30 09:32:52] <jsm> i think that's my problem | ||
| [2011/10/30 09:34:17] <jsm> i keep getting " Error 400 on SERVER: undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass " | ||
| [2011/10/30 09:36:28] <agaffney> I'm just creating one resource at a time | ||
| [2011/10/30 09:37:43] <jsm> agaffney: basically i have a class that has a define that can create bunch of databases, with various parameters... my class receives the list of hashes as a parameter | ||
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| [2011/10/30 09:44:26] <pippo_69> !list | ||
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| [2011/10/30 10:00:55] <jsm> so i made it just a single hash, now i get this error:Error 400 on SERVER: undefined method `merge' for "ea1db":String | ||
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| [2011/10/30 10:17:13] <jsm> my god. i'm going crazy. | ||
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| [2011/10/30 13:13:49] <countskm> anyone handle a full update (e.g. centos 6 to 6.1) via puppet? | ||
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| [2011/10/30 13:14:46] <countskm> i understand how u would do it for a discrete set of packages - but what about everything? | ||
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| [2011/10/30 13:18:06] <cek> countskm: use yum update :) | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:18:17] <countskm> by default i would do a custom exec w/ some zero byte state file saying it was upgraded i suppose | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:18:23] <countskm> cek: heh | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:18:35] <devdas> Just look at $release_version, IIRC | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:18:39] <cek> i'd install yum-cron package and get rid of yum-updatesd | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:18:42] <devdas> There's a fact for that :P | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:19:08] <countskm> devdas: gotcha it would be factorable ur right | ||
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| [2011/10/30 13:19:20] <countskm> maybe im thinking too hard about this :-) | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:19:26] <devdas> countskm, there's already a suitable fact | ||
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| [2011/10/30 13:19:33] <cek> how about handling a 5->6 upgrade | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:19:39] <devdas> NFC | ||
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| [2011/10/30 13:20:09] <countskm> at that point i accept would be out-of-band (5->6) | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:20:25] <countskm> i am going to start at 6 and ride for the next 3 years hopefully :-) | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:20:41] <cek> so naive | ||
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| [2011/10/30 13:21:07] <countskm> funny, usually what i say to the guys who dont dig puppet ;-) | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:22:06] <countskm> but i respect keeping it in-band don't get me wrong | ||
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| [2011/10/30 13:23:08] <devdas> Why even upgrade? | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:23:26] <devdas> Old stuff stays on 5.X until the hardware retires | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:23:59] <cek> to leverage the synergy of cloud virtualization and web OO technologies | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:24:20] <devdas> Bingo, sir | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:24:29] <joe-mac1> use mcollective if you need package updating | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:24:38] <joe-mac1> doing it in puppet is a screwdriver for a hammer's job | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:24:49] <devdas> joe-mac1, distro upgrade | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:25:02] <joe-mac1> distro upgrade, you could write a custom mc agent I guess | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:25:14] <devdas> It's just yum -y upgrade | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:25:15] <joe-mac1> there is already a package agent you can look at and fork, customize to do the whole shebang | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:25:34] <joe-mac1> oh, I'm thinking you do something wonky | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:25:38] <devdas> But $release_version < 5.7 .... | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:25:41] <joe-mac1> I do this stuff with mc-package | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:25:47] <joe-mac1> yea that's the case I am talking about | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:25:49] <joe-mac1> major OS upgrades | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:26:13] <joe-mac1> the little stuff you can do with yum upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade, can be done with an existing mc agent | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:26:46] <joe-mac1> the big upgrade like that, idk maybe someone already did something, buti think you're looking at a custom fork of the existing package one to handle the upgrade, plus doing a few by hand tio find edge cases you will have to work around | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:27:16] <cek> i've customized it already, but it will need yum python binder to work correctly | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:27:34] <cek> that is, a simple yum invoke won't produce totally realiable results in "edge cases" | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:27:55] <cek> i don't remember the details :) | ||
| [2011/10/30 13:28:08] <cek> but yeah, mc package agent is a way to go | ||
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| [2011/10/30 13:34:55] <countskm> i guess i was thinking of the old paradigm of isconf... "order matters"... being able to put a new 5.x and get it to 6.x w/ no human intervention | ||
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| [2011/10/30 15:07:32] <Holocaine> If there's anyone from Puppet Labs here: The mcollective packages you have in the Ubuntu Lucid repo on apt.puppetlabs.com aren't actually there. | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:07:52] <Holocaine> The Packages file says they are but when you try to fetch the .debs it 404s. | ||
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| [2011/10/30 15:11:06] <haus> Holocaine: i'm seeing the debs in apt.puppetlabs.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:11:22] <haus> er... | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:11:38] <haus> in apt.puppetlabs.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mcollective | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:12:15] <Holocaine> haus: http://apt.puppetlabs.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-amd64/Packages | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:12:40] <Holocaine> haus: The packages in there are 1.2.1-1 but the Packages file lists a 1.3.0-6 which isn't there. | ||
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| [2011/10/30 15:12:55] <Holocaine> haus: apt notices the higher number and wants to grab that but can't because the .debs aren't there. | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:12:58] <joe-mac1> probably cause the standard management tools are way too hard to use | ||
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| [2011/10/30 15:13:16] <haus> ah | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:13:40] <joe-mac1> reprepro is hard to use, and even the apt structure is too difficult | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:14:10] <joe-mac1> I've found thati have to script all common actions of those tools otherwise I make mistakes like that as well | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:15:06] <haus> looks like 1.3 is released, but i was under the impression that odd numbered releases were dev and even were stable | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:15:54] <joe-mac1> I thought the same thing but I don't keep up with mc as much as puppet, even puppet these days I don't follow as closely as when it was a larger part of my days | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:16:18] <haus> but either way, you're right about the repo not having the right info inside | ||
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| [2011/10/30 15:18:19] <haus> Holocaine: i'm going to open an issue about this on http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet-community-pkg-repo | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:19:08] <Holocaine> haus: Cool, thanks. =) | ||
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| [2011/10/30 15:25:39] <haus> Holocaine: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/10387 if you have anything to add or want to follow | ||
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| [2011/10/30 15:27:30] <|Majestic|> sorry to bother you all. For the past few hrs ive been hitting my head on the wall with some what should be simple code.. ive done other modules before but I am still very new to puppet and I have started using or trying to use dependcys which is what I think my problem is im doing it wrong. I am in the middle of doing a simple mail aliases module (be expanded over time to do other things). Now the issue is I keep getting a compile error e | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:27:30] <|Majestic|> rr: Failed to apply catalog: Could not find dependent Exec[newaliases] for Mailalias[root] at /etc/puppet/modules/mail/manifests/aliases/root.pp:9. My pastebin of code is here: http://pastebin.com/vJq8CV29 can anyone spot what my stupid error is? | ||
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| [2011/10/30 15:33:54] <mosen> hi |Majestic| i'll have a stab | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:35:07] <mosen> actually im pretty new too :) | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:35:09] <|Majestic|> hi mosen, thanks your a life saver.. been beating myself up.. I can get it to work if I copy the newalses exec stuff within the mail::aliases:root class but then any extra alies I have I would also need to do the same - i.e. repeat code which I am trying not to do :) | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:36:06] <|Majestic|> hehe - been playing around for about 2 weeks or so now. Writen about 8 modules now but not ran into this problem yet. well until now lol | ||
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| [2011/10/30 15:36:41] <mosen> I'm not sure but i think the problem stems from the scope.. you know how puppet doesn't inherit from mail::aliases to mail::aliases::root ? | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:36:57] <|Majestic|> yea thats very possible - think its my understanding | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:38:53] <|Majestic|> I know if I stick the code into say the alises.pp file it works as long as the newalises code is within the same mail::alises:root class but I am trying to limit the amount of code like im told you should do ;). I do think its something to do with the scope but I don't fully understand what that all means etc. I am used to doing 99% of all scripts in bash :) no scope needed hehe | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:39:05] <mosen> hehe ok | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:39:22] <|Majestic|> but I am slowly converting all scripts over to puppet modules.. slow process but in the long turm it saves so much time. | ||
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| [2011/10/30 15:39:25] <mosen> yeah, not repeating code is a good thing | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:39:33] <|Majestic|> yea. | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:39:56] <|Majestic|> I also love the extlookup stuff its awesome.. all my modules use the extlookup its great! | ||
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| [2011/10/30 15:40:51] <mosen> I think either the mail::aliases::root has to include mail::aliases.. or inherit from it, or you could also write a defined type for stuff like that | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:41:13] <|Majestic|> hum right | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:41:25] <mosen> but to be honest someone probably already wrote mail aliases :) | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:41:30] <|Majestic|> not played with define yet.. so will need to read up shortly on that again.. | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:41:34] <|Majestic|> actully no | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:41:36] <|Majestic|> I did look :) | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:41:42] <mosen> awww, not even as a part of augeas ? | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:41:55] <|Majestic|> that I am not sure on.. not played with that yet. | ||
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| [2011/10/30 15:42:28] <|Majestic|> my idea was just to have a csv entry to add in the aliases to the correct server etc as a few machines are slightly different | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:42:37] <mosen> defined types are good for doing that extlookup / mail alias thing you are doing.. I kind of like to think of them as functions, even though theyre not | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:42:53] <mosen> because they repeat a bunch of stuff for a set of parameters | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:42:57] <|Majestic|> the code does work but I just need to duplicate myself if I do it which is why I stopped and tried to not duplicate self. | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:43:05] <|Majestic|> right | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:43:13] <|Majestic|> that sounds like what I need. | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:43:25] <|Majestic|> just going to try that include for a sec | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:43:29] <mosen> sure | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:43:45] <mosen> the basic problem looks like the Exec[newaliases] is out of the scope of mail::aliases::root | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:44:14] <|Majestic|> I feel so stupid | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:44:21] <|Majestic|> now working/compiled | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:44:24] <|Majestic|> just testing it one sec | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:45:36] <|Majestic|> perfect http://pastebin.com/mCnJrtr9 | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:45:46] <|Majestic|> just testing extlookup | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:45:51] <|Majestic|> as using default atm | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:46:15] <mosen> I havent even used it | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:47:00] <|Majestic|> its great.. | ||
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| [2011/10/30 15:47:31] <|Majestic|> common.csv has all the data which is MOSTLY the same on all servers.. then have fqdn.csv with any options which are uniqueue to that server | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:47:33] <|Majestic|> i.e. override | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:49:17] @ Quit: BrickBag: Ping timeout: 256 seconds | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:49:19] <|Majestic|> defently working | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:49:20] <|Majestic|> perfectly | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:49:21] <|Majestic|> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 269 Oct 30 22:48 /etc/aliases | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:49:23] <|Majestic|> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12288 Oct 30 22:48 /etc/aliases.db | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:49:29] <|Majestic|> date/time same which is what I expect | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:49:40] <|Majestic|> so confirms its defenly running cmd | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:49:56] <|Majestic|> checked contents all is perfect on default and anything else | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:49:57] <|Majestic|> THANK YOU. | ||
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| [2011/10/30 15:50:00] <|Majestic|> dam stupid me | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:50:12] <|Majestic|> so.. may I ask.. do you know why I also need to include it | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:50:17] <|Majestic|> is it because of the scope? | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:52:14] <mosen> read up on puppet inheritance. I think basically modules don't really inherit from each other like in a programming language, although there is an inheritance feature it seems like it's not popular or maybe good design? to do modules that way | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:53:16] <|Majestic|> svn ci -m "Fixed :: Thanks to mosen on IRC #puppet" | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:53:17] <|Majestic|> :) | ||
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| [2011/10/30 15:53:38] <|Majestic|> right | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:53:48] <|Majestic|> yea I was playing with trying to get that working | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:54:01] <|Majestic|> I guess I have it wrong else I guess it should of been ok | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:54:17] <|Majestic|> will do some more reading.. thank you again. | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:55:20] <mosen> hehe | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:55:33] <mosen> sorry but im not the best to give a solid answer i guess | ||
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| [2011/10/30 15:56:11] <|Majestic|> you have helped a lot! thank you. I should of thought about that.. silly me. | ||
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| [2011/10/30 15:56:34] <jsm> i've got an array of hashes from hiera that i pass a parameter to my class… I then have a define in that class that is supposed to operate on the hash, but there seems to be some trick involved in getting a hash passed to a define | ||
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| [2011/10/30 15:56:58] <jsm> that is, the hash object is there, but I can't seem to reference it properly | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:57:02] <|Majestic|> sorry jsm, no clue. Not played with that yet. | ||
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| [2011/10/30 15:58:47] <|Majestic|> hum | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:58:51] <|Majestic|> I think I may of seen why.. | ||
| [2011/10/30 15:58:55] <|Majestic|> one sec testing soemthing | ||
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| [2011/10/30 16:00:02] <|Majestic|> OMG: fixed well OK I know why it was behaving like it was | ||
| [2011/10/30 16:00:20] <|Majestic|> I was only including mail::alises::root in my nodes.pp (OOOOOOOOOPS!) | ||
| [2011/10/30 16:00:25] <|Majestic|> no wonder I needed taht extra include | ||
| [2011/10/30 16:00:53] <|Majestic|> I just removed the include from the root.pp and - it still works! | ||
| [2011/10/30 16:01:17] <|Majestic|> stupid me :( I feel so dumb right now. Thanks again mosen! I think it is right just was me missing | ||
| [2011/10/30 16:02:04] <mosen> no probs | ||
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| [2011/10/30 20:17:07] <m1ndsurfer> I'm having real trouble getting the puppetlabs/java module working, can anybody help? | ||
| [2011/10/30 20:17:21] <bob2> as always best to just ask | ||
| [2011/10/30 20:17:24] <m1ndsurfer> (I know it's basic, I just can't work out what I'm missing.) | ||
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| [2011/10/30 20:19:10] <m1ndsurfer> Well, I've puppet, rubyjems, puppet-module and the puppetlabs-java module, but when I "puppet apply java/manifests/init.pp" nothing happens. | ||
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| [2011/10/30 20:20:02] <m1ndsurfer> (I'm on SuSE so I expect it to tell me my operating system isn't supported but it doesn't even do that. Neither --verbose nor --debug are enlightening.) | ||
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| [2011/10/30 20:23:51] <m1ndsurfer> Firstly, should I even need to say "puppet apply java/manifests/init.pp" (as I thought I'd just need to say "puppet apply java" because the manifests/init.pp part was the default) and secondly, why does it silently do nothing? Or are the error messages coming out somewhere other than the console? | ||
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| [2011/10/30 20:57:19] <m1ndsurfer> bob2: This is why I asked, so I could find out if there was anyone here or if it was just crickets and tumbleweeds :-) | ||
| [2011/10/30 20:57:45] <bob2> that's fine, but you're one person, so you just asking your question is way more efficient than waiting for people to pipe up | ||
| [2011/10/30 20:57:53] <bob2> if no one answers, try the list I guess | ||
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