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| [2011/11/13 02:36:41] <mandaro90> ciao | ||
| [2011/11/13 02:36:49] <mandaro90> list! | ||
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| [2011/11/13 05:14:51] <susman> hi | ||
| [2011/11/13 05:15:01] <susman> how can i require class? | ||
| [2011/11/13 05:15:20] <susman> i.e: require => asdf::fdsa | ||
| [2011/11/13 05:15:21] <susman> ? | ||
| [2011/11/13 05:15:34] <indigo> require => Class['asdf'] | ||
| [2011/11/13 05:15:46] <indigo> also there is a require function | ||
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| [2011/11/13 05:16:58] <susman> ok, but if i need something more specific i.e asdf::fdsa, can i use Class['asdf::fdsa']? | ||
| [2011/11/13 05:17:02] <indigo> yes | ||
| [2011/11/13 05:17:09] <susman> 10x | ||
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| [2011/11/13 10:41:07] <savid> Why does "puppet agent --test" have a return code of "2" when there are no visible errors? | ||
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| [2011/11/13 10:52:28] <supplicant> savid: I would like to know that as well | ||
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| [2011/11/13 11:24:39] <savid> supplicant, just found out. apparently --test implies --detailed-exitcodes, which sets "2" if there were changes and "4" if there were any failures. | ||
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| [2011/11/13 12:42:38] <mmoya> is it possible to see a template interpolated when using --noop ? | ||
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| [2011/11/13 12:59:53] <Dominic> mmoya: puppet shows you a diff with --test, or you could have a look at the catalog produced | ||
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| [2011/11/13 14:53:56] <ashp> i cannot believe how hard it is to hire someone to do puppet type stuff in boston :/ | ||
| [2011/11/13 14:54:38] <supplicant> ashp: I can't even hire developers in nyc! | ||
| [2011/11/13 14:54:47] <ashp> what's going on with the world | ||
| [2011/11/13 14:55:03] <samkottler> ashp: yeah I am boston based and the startups are hiring tons of devops people | ||
| [2011/11/13 14:55:06] <ashp> we're after a medium experienced person, ideally more of a developer than an ops person | ||
| [2011/11/13 14:55:19] <ashp> samkottler: that probably explains it, the startups stealing the people I want :/ | ||
| [2011/11/13 14:55:38] <misc> IMHO, it will be cheaper to buy a startup than to spend time hiring people | ||
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| [2011/11/13 14:56:09] <ashp> sadly they don't let me buy startups | ||
| [2011/11/13 14:57:28] <misc> afaik, you just asked us for questions 3 days ago, no ? | ||
| [2011/11/13 14:57:39] <ashp> for questions? | ||
| [2011/11/13 14:57:47] <beast> More companies should start hiring remotely, and not have to worry where the developers are | ||
| [2011/11/13 14:58:13] <misc> ashp: weren't you the one who asked the channel for interview question ? | ||
| [2011/11/13 14:58:41] <ashp> Hmm, I don't remember, I don't think so.. | ||
| [2011/11/13 14:58:49] <ashp> beast: We have a bunch of remote people and it's kind of a pain | ||
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| [2011/11/13 14:58:56] <ashp> I still believe there's a lot of benefit in face to face | ||
| [2011/11/13 14:59:20] <beast> sure there is, but there are ways to make it 95% of face to face | ||
| [2011/11/13 14:59:35] <beast> I work remotely for two different companies, they have it figured out very well | ||
| [2011/11/13 14:59:50] <ashp> we have lots of remote people and it's nothing but a pain :) | ||
| [2011/11/13 14:59:51] <misc> so for how long have you been trying to hire someone ( if I am not too curious ) ? | ||
| [2011/11/13 14:59:57] <ashp> i only see my boss every few weeks for example | ||
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| [2011/11/13 15:00:18] <ashp> misc: hmm, not that long really, but they had a lot of problems finding me for my position, they couldn't find anyone good | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:00:23] <ashp> we've only had this open for a few weeks | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:00:32] <ashp> but so far all we've had is a guy who retired in 1991 and an hp-ux guy | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:01:14] <supplicant> we've been looking for a senior developer since july | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:01:38] <ashp> had any interviews or are they not even getting past the phone screen? | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:02:11] <supplicant> for the senior position? no one we thought was qualified | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:02:32] <ashp> i bet developers are one of the hardest jobs to keep good people in | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:02:41] <supplicant> interviewed some as potential junior developers | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:02:41] <ashp> the barriers to starting your own business as a developer are so low | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:02:50] <ashp> unlike a doctor, they can't exactly easily start their own hospital :) | ||
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| [2011/11/13 15:03:35] <misc> well, lots of big companies are hiring, and while i do not know how it is in the states, but where i live, the schools do not really produce great software engineers ( to my not so humble opinion ) | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:03:56] <supplicant> school does not a software engineer make | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:04:04] <ashp> i think, like most things, 99% of people in the industry suck | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:04:07] <ashp> and 1% are good :) | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:04:21] <supplicant> yeah, in nyc the trendy startups and google are hiring everyone | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:04:22] <ashp> because i've sat in some insanely painful sysadmin interviews in the past | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:04:41] <nevyn> hrm | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:04:55] <nevyn> I dunno | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:05:15] <misc> ashp: painful for you as the interviewer ? | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:05:42] <ashp> yes | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:05:44] <nevyn> Of where I've worked in the past ther'es probably 20% I'd never work with ever again and 40% that I'd poach | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:05:52] <ashp> just asking as many basic questions as possible and having people stunned | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:05:56] <kjetilho> so 99% of all interviewers suck? | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:06:12] <nevyn> kjetilho: more than 99% of interviews suck | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:06:13] <ashp> or asking open ended stuff like 'how would you troubleshoot a problem with a website' | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:06:19] <nevyn> most people interview poorly | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:06:21] <ashp> 99% of everything does, me included ;) | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:06:30] <supplicant> ashp: we've interviewed people who a recruiting agency offered as senior people who couldn't open a file | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:06:38] <ashp> sturgeon's law i guess | ||
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| [2011/11/13 15:06:43] <ashp> supplicant: hahahaha oh dear | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:06:55] <ashp> supplicant: it's amazing how even the simplest questions can fox 'senior dev' candidates | ||
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| [2011/11/13 15:07:03] <nevyn> ashp: what sort of problem performance, functionality, availiblility? | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:07:03] <Holocaine> I've almost never had a good experience involving a recruiter. | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:07:08] <ashp> 'write something to print 1-100' | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:07:08] <Spads> of course asking basic questions is called "fizzbuzz" although everybody seems to have missed the point of the fizzbuzz exercise | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:07:10] <ashp> nevyn: you're hired. | ||
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| [2011/11/13 15:07:18] <ashp> nevyn: that's honestly the most sensible answer I've heard so far! | ||
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| [2011/11/13 15:07:30] <ashp> nevyn: most of the time they'll start with insane things like 'WELL I'LL GO INTO IIS' | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:07:57] <ashp> 'reboot the webserver and see if it helps' | ||
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| [2011/11/13 15:08:00] <supplicant> IIS? why troubleshoot? just reboot | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:08:04] <nevyn> ashp: the first thought I had was assuming it's functionality google the error look at the line of code etc | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:08:04] <supplicant> ashp: ^5 | ||
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| [2011/11/13 15:08:16] <misc> supplicant: why reboot, reinstall directly | ||
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| [2011/11/13 15:08:26] <ashp> nevyn: even that is so far beyond the level fo the majority of candidates i've interviewed in the past | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:08:37] <nevyn> ashp: srsly? | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:08:39] <ashp> i've always been in a 'part of the team, not the guy making hiring decisions' role but it was awful | ||
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| [2011/11/13 15:08:58] <supplicant> misc: at $job[-2] that wouldn't have been possible | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:08:59] <ashp> nevyn: oh yeah, the majority of sysadmin candidates i've interviewed were unable to answer questions like 'what is redhat' | ||
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| [2011/11/13 15:09:05] <supplicant> I was terrified of a box going down | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:09:10] <ashp> one guy came in for a senior linux job and couldn't tell me what linux was | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:09:10] <nevyn> ashp: a company. | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:09:24] <ashp> nevyn: even that would be vastly more than i've experienced | ||
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| [2011/11/13 15:09:31] <ashp> i've been on the other side, going into interviews | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:09:40] <johnbatch> ashp: a pretty hat | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:09:41] <misc> ashp: you make me wanting to do interview, i really want to see that by myself | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:09:43] <ashp> being asked some strange basic questions and seeing a look of relief on their face when they were answered | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:09:45] <nevyn> a posix like operating system developed by a finn using the bazzar model of open source development. | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:09:48] <ashp> misc: it's entertaining | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:10:02] <ashp> misc: once i was asked to explain an http connection in as much detail as possible, going down as many layers as I could | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:10:20] <nevyn> ashp: lol | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:10:22] <ashp> misc: i found out at the end no other candidate had successfully reached a point of 'the client makes a connection to the server, and requests a page' | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:10:35] <ashp> i just honestly don't understand how that happens | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:10:39] <nevyn> did youg et as far as ethernet? | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:10:41] <supplicant> it seriouisly is this bad | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:10:43] <samkottler> ashp: oh wow, oh wow | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:10:48] <supplicant> seriously, even | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:11:04] <ashp> supplicant: I think that's the worst bit, it all sounds like we're being over the top | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:11:08] <ashp> supplicant: until you start hiring people :) | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:11:46] <nevyn> ashp: the best answer I've seen along those lines. | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:11:50] <nevyn> https://plus.google.com/112218872649456413744/posts/dfydM2Cnepe#112218872649456413744/posts/dfydM2Cnepe | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:11:56] <supplicant> yes, because then I don't have to interview people anymore | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:12:22] <mosen> this sounds like fiction :) | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:12:51] * nevyn wonders what ashp is paying for these "sys-admins" | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:13:05] <ashp> Nothing because I'm just a grunt, nobody lets me do budgets or salaries ;) | ||
| [2011/11/13 15:13:28] * nevyn is grunt too | ||
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| [2011/11/13 16:19:25] <savid> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to manage separate resources within a single file? | ||
| [2011/11/13 16:23:07] <indigo> what do you mean? | ||
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| [2011/11/13 16:25:58] <savid> indigo, for example, I use supervisord, and I group multiple programs into a "group", which are all contained in one file. However, I'd like to control those individual programs as separate resources within that group. | ||
| [2011/11/13 16:26:14] <indigo> well | ||
| [2011/11/13 16:26:44] <indigo> i just did something with supervisord. let me look. | ||
| [2011/11/13 16:27:27] <savid> I know I can use includes to separate stuff out into separate files, but I was hoping I could keep things more pristine by keeping them in one file. | ||
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| [2011/11/13 16:27:54] <indigo> there is a supervisor module out there already | ||
| [2011/11/13 16:28:05] <savid> indigo, yeah, I saw it on github | ||
| [2011/11/13 16:28:10] <indigo> yeah | ||
| [2011/11/13 16:28:14] <savid> But it doesn't have any way to define groups, so I'm modifying it | ||
| [2011/11/13 16:28:15] <indigo> also there is puppet-concat on github | ||
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| [2011/11/13 16:28:28] <savid> hmm, ok, I'll look into that | ||
| [2011/11/13 16:28:40] <indigo> or it's not difficult to roll your own; make a resource that makes files, and notifies an exec that runs cat. | ||
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| [2011/11/13 16:28:57] <indigo> i'll find you an example.. | ||
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| [2011/11/13 16:32:03] <savid> Actualy, I think puppet-concat probably does exactly what I need | ||
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| [2011/11/13 16:32:25] <indigo> http://pastebin.com/c2KyRBmm | ||
| [2011/11/13 16:33:01] <indigo> say, are you pretty good with git? | ||
| [2011/11/13 16:35:52] <matchaw> Anyone here able to help with augeas lenses? | ||
| [2011/11/13 16:36:38] <indigo> anyhow, i've always avoided puppet modules on github because i don't have a good way to branch them, track upstream changes, and version them with my code | ||
| [2011/11/13 16:36:52] <indigo> i use bzr but it seems like everyone using puppet uses git | ||
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| [2011/11/13 17:05:09] <barn> indigo: would bzr-git work for you? http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/migration/en/foreign/bzr-on-git-projects.html | ||
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| [2011/11/13 17:09:13] <indigo> barn: the problem isn't so much accessing the submodules, it's tracking my changes to them, and keeping the proper versions with my puppet code | ||
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| [2011/11/13 17:10:26] <indigo> so, if i decide i want to update puppet-concat to a new version, it should work like this: first i branch my production environment, which has all my manifests; a complete puppet configuration. Then I update puppet-concat (and maybe also change my code that uses it). I test, then I merge my branch back into production, which brings the changes to my code, and also the updated puppet-concat. | ||
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| [2011/11/13 17:11:51] <indigo> mostly i get around it now by pulling other people's code entirely into my branch, essentially as if i had downloaded a tarball. makes tracking upstream changes and submitting patches a pain, though. | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:14:26] <indigo> i'm reading about submodules. maybe it's awesome? | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:16:13] <anrxc> yes | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:16:20] <anrxc> that's what you want | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:16:44] <anrxc> http://progit.org/book/ch6-6.html | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:18:34] <indigo> remember when there was only CVS? And...perforce maybe? I miss those days :( | ||
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| [2011/11/13 17:20:28] <anrxc> we can go back, people just need to stop writing their own python revision control systems :) | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:20:34] <anrxc> and use git :p | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:20:45] <indigo> bzr predates git | ||
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| [2011/11/13 17:21:15] <anrxc> cool didn't know, is preforce a distributed system like these two? | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:21:28] <indigo> no. perforce is pretty much a commercial version of CVS. | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:21:34] <indigo> only...worse. | ||
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| [2011/11/13 17:23:42] <anrxc> git and mercurial helped me really start benefiting from revision control, as a hobbyist cvs and subversion didn't have any appeal | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:25:15] <anrxc> even my dotfiles are in revision control now | ||
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| [2011/11/13 17:26:14] <indigo> after CVS i used TLA | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:26:28] <indigo> which was discontinued 5 years ago. I feel old. | ||
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| [2011/11/13 17:32:53] <joe-mac> indigo: tla lives on sort of | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:33:25] <indigo> sure, as bzr :) | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:33:43] <joe-mac> the most difficult to use dvcs | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:33:48] <joe-mac> for me at least | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:33:59] <indigo> tla? or bzr? | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:34:04] <joe-mac> bzr | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:34:18] <indigo> it wasn't always so | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:34:37] <indigo> the only reason anyone ever switched to bzr was that it was easy to use | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:34:43] <joe-mac> thankfully my need for interacting with it is probably for one project on a semi regular basis, graphite | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:34:59] <indigo> i think now even git has a reasonable interface | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:35:16] <indigo> anyway if you think bzr is hard, try tla. | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:35:41] <joe-mac> git is easy to use once you understand the paradigm vs centralized source control i think | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:35:59] <joe-mac> i've been using git flow a lot over the past few months, loving it | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:36:15] <joe-mac> yea i think i was using svn when tla existed in its true incarnation | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:36:17] <joe-mac> or cvs | ||
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| [2011/11/13 17:36:38] <indigo> i don't think anyone ever used tla except tla itself, and me. | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:36:55] <indigo> svn was all the rage, because it wasn't cvs. | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:37:40] <joe-mac> yea it is like cvs 2.0 | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:37:44] <indigo> anyway, my point was that today we can discuss all day this vs that scm. 10 years ago, there was only cvs. | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:38:09] <indigo> things were simple. cvs was just how it worked, and there weren't any fights. | ||
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| [2011/11/13 17:39:10] <joe-mac> wow svn has only been around since 04? jhc | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:39:17] <joe-mac> i feel like it is older than that | ||
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| [2011/11/13 17:39:32] <indigo> 04 is seven years ago. | ||
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| [2011/11/13 17:40:14] <indigo> http://xkcd.com/891/ | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:40:24] <joe-mac> yea, i am surprised cause i think i first used it in 05, and i just assumed it had been around since the 90s | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:41:13] <indigo> "SVN - corrupting your source codes since '04!" | ||
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| [2011/11/13 17:47:47] <joe-mac> i love git, i think people might not realize how fast it really is... i didn't really til i went back to using hg for a client | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:48:00] <joe-mac> i had gotten used to daily git instead and was in pain | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:48:15] <indigo> what are the consequences of having the master and agents running different puppet versions? anything bad? | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:48:39] <joe-mac> i've never heard anyone tell me at least, that's one of its merits, the total speed, they talk about speed due to local history and all that but not like, speed of merges etc | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:48:48] <savid> Do provider gems need to be installed on the agent or the master? | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:48:52] <joe-mac> indigo: it is not advised and in some cases simpy won't work | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:48:54] <joe-mac> simply** | ||
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| [2011/11/13 17:49:02] <joe-mac> savid: agent(s) | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:49:24] <savid> joe-mac, is there an easy way to ensure they're installed on agents using puppet configs? | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:49:27] <joe-mac> indigo: you should ideally have all versions the same, if you mix, master needs to be the higher version | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:49:27] <jforman> can someone help me out trying to understand why a user 'backup' is not being created with this class i have created, http://pastebin.com/zXJ5JFnD | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:49:43] <joe-mac> savid: i'm not sure what you mean | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:50:04] <indigo> jforman: you aren't including the class. | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:50:06] <joe-mac> if you need a gem for a provider then install it in a pre stage or require it before any types that need it, but even then it might not work | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:50:35] <joe-mac> your best bet savid, for things like that, is to usually install any packages/gems you need for providers and other chicken-egg scenarios in your kickstart/preseed | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:50:43] <savid> ok | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:50:59] <jforman> indigo: including the class? as in puppet apply init.pp -e 'include backup' ? | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:50:59] <joe-mac> like rubygems for instance, i always install that in my preseed/ks | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:51:29] <matchaw> Could anyone help with augeas lenses? | ||
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| [2011/11/13 17:55:32] <indigo> jforman: i was thinking adding "include backup" at the end of your manifest, but maybe that works too. Or, you could just not put it in a class. | ||
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| [2011/11/13 17:56:40] <savid> Why when I use gem to install puppet-pip, does gem try to install gems for puppet and facter when I've already installed puppet and facter using apt? | ||
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| [2011/11/13 17:57:12] <savid> Is that going to mess up my existing puppet setup? | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:58:03] <beast> Could anyone point me in the direction of a good templates tutorial? | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:58:51] <savid> UGH. I installed the package provider. It's still saying "Invalid package provider pip" | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:59:02] <savid> Is there a different way I'm supposed to install this thing? | ||
| [2011/11/13 17:59:49] <joe-mac> savid: no clue, i am not familiar with puppet-pip, but fairly sure you can bypass dependency checking in gem | ||
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| [2011/11/13 18:00:15] <joe-mac> savid: try restarting the agent | ||
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| [2011/11/13 18:02:12] <savid> joe-mac, I'm using puppet agent -t | ||
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| [2011/11/13 18:04:05] <joe-mac> maybe it's not setting rubylib, where did the code install to? | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:04:15] <savid> I have no clue | ||
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| [2011/11/13 18:04:29] <joe-mac> ok well why don't you have a look | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:04:49] <savid> joe-mac, "I just did gem install puppet-pip" | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:04:53] <savid> That's all I know | ||
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| [2011/11/13 18:05:21] <savid> ok, now I see | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:05:31] <savid> it installed it here: /var/lib/gems/1.8/gems/puppet-2.7.6/lib/puppet/provider/package/pip.rb | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:05:38] <savid> and herE: /var/lib/gems/1.8/gems/puppet-pip-1.0.0/lib/puppet/provider/package/pip.rb | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:05:46] <savid> those are the only two places pip.rb exist | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:05:48] <savid> Ugh. | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:05:55] <joe-mac> right so, they need to be in your puppet install | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:06:04] <joe-mac> my advice, don't use gems | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:07:10] <savid> How else am I supposed to install this thing? Just manually? | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:08:25] <savid> The github page says this under Usage: sudo env RUBYLIB="$GEM_HOME/1.8/gems/puppet-pip-0.0.5/lib" puppet apply test.pp | ||
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| [2011/11/13 18:08:48] <savid> no idea what that's supposed to do | ||
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| [2011/11/13 18:12:03] <savid> joe-mac, how else can I install this other than rubygems? https://github.com/rcrowley/puppet-pip | ||
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| [2011/11/13 18:13:45] <joe-mac> you can put that stuff inside a module savid | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:13:59] <joe-mac> so when your client runs it pulls down the provider | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:14:10] <savid> Oh, I can? how? | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:15:16] <joe-mac> https://www.puppetlabs.com/guides/plugins_in_modules.html | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:15:38] <joe-mac> pretty simple | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:15:56] <joe-mac> you just put the file in the proper place inside a module and it gets transferred as long as plugin sync is not disabled | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:17:11] <savid> Oh, that's excellent. Thank you! | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:17:45] <savid> Looks like there's a "spec" file with puppet-pip.. where would that live in the module? | ||
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| [2011/11/13 18:18:52] <joe-mac> .spec? is it an auto test file or an rpm spec? | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:19:03] <savid> joe-mac, https://github.com/rcrowley/puppet-pip/blob/master/spec/unit/provider/package/pip_spec.rb | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:19:21] <joe-mac> yea that's for unit tests | ||
| [2011/11/13 18:19:28] <savid> aah, ok. cool | ||
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| [2011/11/13 18:23:46] <savid> Sweet! that worked brilliantly. Thank goodness, that gem business was driving me mad... | ||
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| [2011/11/13 20:21:38] <bodepd> is there a way to figure out what the path to a module is from within a manifest? | ||
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| [2011/11/13 20:23:55] <bodepd> I just wrote a fuction to do it. Wanted to make sure I am not reinventing a wheel | ||
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| [2011/11/13 20:38:37] <rodjek> bodepd: "${settings::modulepath}/<module>" | ||
| [2011/11/13 20:38:38] <rodjek> ? | ||
| [2011/11/13 20:39:19] <rodjek> or do you need to work out the name of the module automatically as well? | ||
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| [2011/11/13 20:44:49] <bodepd> rodjek: I don't have to work out the name of the module, there is a variable called $module_name | ||
| [2011/11/13 20:45:56] <bodepd> rodjek: I am not so sure about using modulepath. what if it is a list? | ||
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| [2011/11/13 20:47:57] <bodepd> this is what I was thinking about: https://gist.github.com/1363259 | ||
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| [2011/11/13 20:57:25] <rodjek> bodepd: ah cool | ||
| [2011/11/13 20:58:24] <bodepd> rodjek: stole the code from the template function :) | ||
| [2011/11/13 20:58:39] <rodjek> nice :) | ||
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| [2011/11/13 21:27:40] <savid> I have an array of directories that I need to have created that are passed in as relative paths. How can I loop through these to prepend a path root? | ||
| [2011/11/13 21:29:24] <savid> Or rather, since there's no "loop" construct in puppet, how can I prepend a path root to this array of relative paths? | ||
| [2011/11/13 21:31:15] <agaffney> use a define | ||
| [2011/11/13 21:32:05] <agaffney> define make_my_dir() { file { "/prefix/for/my/paths/${name}": ... } } | ||
| [2011/11/13 21:32:26] <agaffney> make_my_dir { ["array", "of", "relative", "dirs", "to", "create"]: } | ||
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| [2011/11/13 21:34:53] <savid> agaffney, ah, great idea. thanks! | ||
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| [2011/11/13 22:22:57] <semaphor1> erm | ||
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