Monday, 2011-11-14

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[2011/11/14 00:51:41] <lamba> has anyone managed to get puppet working over a vpn ? On the lan it works a treat but over slow links (150-300ms ping) the ssl handshake times out and it just dosent work
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[2011/11/14 00:57:22] <lamba> err: Could not send report: SSL_connect SYSCALL returned=5 errno=0 state=SSLv2/v3 read server hello A
[2011/11/14 00:57:28] <lamba> thats the error i see
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[2011/11/14 01:35:10] <jpalmer> if 'facter' isn't showing a manufacturer or a productname, what package am I missing?
[2011/11/14 01:35:42] <jpalmer> ahh, bet it's dmidecode.
[2011/11/14 01:36:41] <jpalmer> ding! winnar
[2011/11/14 01:38:25] <jpalmer> lamba: every one of my puppet clients is over a vpn.. and 2 of those clients are in remote areas of the world which frequently see 1500+ms of latency
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[2011/11/14 01:41:58] <lamba> well, thats all i got. it works find to everything on the lan.
[2011/11/14 01:42:42] <lamba> openssl s_client -connect <ip of puppet master> fails about 5 in every 6 times. then once in a while works just fine.
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[2011/11/14 01:43:02] <lamba> so its something to do with the ssl puppet uses i think ?
[2011/11/14 01:44:27] <jpalmer> is your puppetmaster running with webrick?
[2011/11/14 01:44:50] <dcarley> lamba: few questions.. does s_client fail with the same error? does a simple netcat show the port as always open? how are you running the master?
[2011/11/14 01:45:35] <jpalmer> I'm betting it's webrick. I'd have insane SSL errors when I first used it, due to latency. as soon as I ran puppetmaster in passenger, all of that ssl crap went away.
[2011/11/14 01:45:41] <lamba> master is run as the puppetmaster daemon. ill check openssl error but i think its the same. and yes, webrick. I tried teaking the sleep 0.1 in the webrick last week but it made no difference
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[2011/11/14 01:46:18] <dcarley> take the opportunity to move away from webrick. it'll probably cure that and all other kinds of weirdness.
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[2011/11/14 01:46:26] <lamba> i'd move to passenger if i knew how. im not a ruby person so its double dutch to me. - do you have a paint-by-numbers tutorial for doing it ?
[2011/11/14 01:46:27] <jpalmer> lamba: do yourself a favor. get away from webrick asap. That's what cleared up my "ssl/latency" issues. webrick would fail a *lot* passenger never fails.
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[2011/11/14 01:47:00] <jpalmer> I'm not a ruby guy either. I ended up followng a random tutorial online
[2011/11/14 01:47:07] <lamba> ok ill have a looksie
[2011/11/14 01:48:11] <jpalmer> lamba: http://www.barriebremner.com/geek/passenger_puppet.cgi <-- the one I used
[2011/11/14 01:48:43] <lamba> roger. on it now
[2011/11/14 01:49:07] <jpalmer> good luck. heading to bed ;)
[2011/11/14 01:49:44] <jpalmer> I think I'm going to move my puppet master to 2.7.x and CentOS6 this week. migrations in the lab seem to go flawlessly.
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[2011/11/14 01:54:05] * neilh is ok
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[2011/11/14 01:56:42] <jpalmer> lamba: if you follow the tutorial I just linked, make sure you use the config.ru file included with your version of puppet. the one they have there is from a much older version of puppet.
[2011/11/14 02:02:26] <lamba> ok
[2011/11/14 02:06:11] <lamba> looks like passenge dosent like fedora. :(
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[2011/11/14 02:06:34] <jpalmer> you're using fedora as a server OS?
[2011/11/14 02:06:57] <lamba> im using puppet on my home network.
[2011/11/14 02:07:11] <jpalmer> gotcha
[2011/11/14 02:07:14] <jpalmer> over a vpn?
[2011/11/14 02:07:48] <lamba> vps attached to home network.
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[2011/11/14 02:08:27] <lamba> ... home network of laughable complexity. use cfengine at work but will prolly move to puppet if i can fix this ssl problem
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[2011/11/14 02:12:05] <jpalmer> if you get passenger working, I can all but guarantee the ssl issue vanishes.
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[2011/11/14 02:46:22] <roidelapluie> hello
[2011/11/14 02:46:33] <roidelapluie> I have a module puppet/modules/rproxy
[2011/11/14 02:46:49] <roidelapluie> in whoch I have a manifests/init.pp
[2011/11/14 02:46:51] <lamba> good news. passenger works ! bad news, my server is running puppet 2.6, the clients 2.7 and not i get an http error 400 from them. ug !
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[2011/11/14 02:47:05] <roidelapluie> heading with class rproxy ( $folder = $::hostname,
[2011/11/14 02:47:05] <roidelapluie> ) {
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[2011/11/14 02:47:09] <lamba> the few clients on 2.6 still work
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[2011/11/14 02:47:23] <roidelapluie> and on the nodes I have the following error: err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: Puppet::Parser::AST::Resource failed with error ArgumentError: Could not find declared class rproxy at /etc/puppet/manifests/nodes/proxy2.pp:17 on node proxy2.interne.arsia.be
[2011/11/14 02:47:35] <roidelapluie> anyone has a clue?
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[2011/11/14 03:08:07] <erthad> hiall
[2011/11/14 03:08:36] <erthad> is it possible to put class variables into inventory?
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[2011/11/14 03:11:00] <erthad> I mean doing that automatically by puppet itself but not by standalone tool
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[2011/11/14 03:11:43] <bd> how does puppet resolve file => group "foo" requirements? i have an ldap backed setup here and it seems puppet does not find the ldap based groups.
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[2011/11/14 03:12:47] <_rc> it'll use whatever the rest of the tools on the system, but there can be a headache when you are setting up ldap via puppet
[2011/11/14 03:13:34] <_rc> as it resolves them as it recieves the catalog, which is often before you have ldap lookups working
[2011/11/14 03:15:16] <indigo> does anyone know a good method for installing security updates on debian via puppet? I want to update certain packages only if they are installed, and only if the update is a security update, and only if the package is in my list of allowed upgrades.
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[2011/11/14 04:05:21] <tim|mac> hm... collecting resources based on multiple arguments isn't possible?
[2011/11/14 04:05:43] <tim|mac> Resource <| title == "bla" && tag == "foobar" |>
[2011/11/14 04:05:47] <tim|mac> or something like it?
[2011/11/14 04:10:17] <indigo> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/language_guide.html#expressions
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[2011/11/14 04:24:01] <codec> anyone got a tool to compare files on a machine against the filebucket/catalog?
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[2011/11/14 04:58:39] <zaargy> i think puppet agent --noop is the best you can do right now
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[2011/11/14 05:19:28] <adriano86> im a puppet. di dum.. di dum dum..
[2011/11/14 05:19:38] <adriano86> im a puppet. sha la laa..
[2011/11/14 05:19:39] <adriano86> im a puppet. di dum.. di dum dum..
[2011/11/14 05:19:50] <adriano86> im a puppet. a a a a...... BO!
[2011/11/14 05:19:53] <adriano86> *drums*
[2011/11/14 05:19:55] <adriano86> im a puppet. di dum.. di dum dum..
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[2011/11/14 05:26:16] <satman> i have an existing puppet-installation. Trying to figure a few things out. Within a class-devinition, there is a Class['X']->Class['Y']
[2011/11/14 05:26:50] <satman> if X and Y are not included yet, will they get included by this statement?
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[2011/11/14 05:27:05] <satman> can someone point me to the docs explaining this?
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[2011/11/14 05:39:27] <slap_stick> Hey I am
[2011/11/14 05:40:51] <slap_stick> Hey I am trying to call a define where name is an array of services and I want to !defines(Service[$name]) but it doesn't like it as its an array not sure how to get round it?
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[2011/11/14 05:44:24] <slap_stick> Is there a way to expand the array inside the define ? I thought it would do it automatically
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[2011/11/14 06:03:49] <tim|mac> does anyone have a fact that list the available vms outputted by virsh list?
[2011/11/14 06:03:53] <tim|mac> :)
[2011/11/14 06:07:02] <ohadlevy> tim|mac: i can create one for you really quick by using the virt gem
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[2011/11/14 06:11:34] <junaid> HELLO
[2011/11/14 06:11:39] <supplicant> EHLO
[2011/11/14 06:11:54] <junaid> i am unbale to vew reports on foreman (puppet frontend guid interface)
[2011/11/14 06:12:04] <junaid> GUI*
[2011/11/14 06:12:13] <tim|mac> ohadlevy: would be appreciated :)
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[2011/11/14 06:13:36] <junaid> anyone can help me to bring the reporting detail on the foreman front end guid report section
[2011/11/14 06:14:05] <junaid> i have even imported the report which i received from puppet clients
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[2011/11/14 06:18:49] <junaid> i entered the follwing command
[2011/11/14 06:18:55] <junaid> rake RAILS_ENV=production reports:import REPORT_DIR=/var/lib/puppet/yaml/
[2011/11/14 06:19:27] <junaid> all the reports get imported successfully, but i am unable to view them on foreman web interface
[2011/11/14 06:20:27] <ohadlevy> tim|mac: didnt try - http://pastie.org/2861809
[2011/11/14 06:21:09] <ohadlevy> junaid: you need to put the report file in the right place, you can look at the puppet foreman module for examples
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[2011/11/14 06:21:54] <junaid> i have done so
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[2011/11/14 06:22:33] <tim|mac> ohadlevy: thx!
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[2011/11/14 06:23:00] <junaid> but, it did not work
[2011/11/14 06:23:36] <slap_stick> Hey if I have a define which takes an array and name contains that array how would I do de
[2011/11/14 06:24:10] <slap_stick> defined(Service[$name]) ?
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[2011/11/14 06:35:04] <ohadlevy> tim|mac: works?
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[2011/11/14 06:36:17] <tim|mac> ohadlevy: about to test!
[2011/11/14 06:36:24] <tim|mac> had to create a module for it first
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[2011/11/14 06:36:50] <junaid> what module, can you help me in order to get it more clarified
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[2011/11/14 06:40:22] <tim|mac> ohadlevy: apparantly, debian doesn't have the virt gem packaged :S
[2011/11/14 06:40:22] <tim|mac> ah they do, just not in lenny
[2011/11/14 06:40:48] <junaid> but, i am doing it on ubuntu
[2011/11/14 06:40:55] <junaid> my test machine
[2011/11/14 06:42:09] <tim|mac> hm... can't require virt... but there's a libvirt... when I substitute those, it's not happy with Virt... checking
[2011/11/14 06:42:26] <tim|mac> junaid: i'm talking about a fact, not your problem with foreman :)
[2011/11/14 06:42:37] <ohadlevy> tim|mac: yeah, sadly, i never packaged it yet
[2011/11/14 06:43:00] <ohadlevy> tim|mac: using libvirt wont be that hard, give me another sec ;)
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[2011/11/14 06:43:12] <tim|mac> awesome, much appreciated!
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[2011/11/14 06:45:27] <tim|mac> ohadlevy: the module is probably going to end up in our github repo, so feel free to add copyright/license/shameless plug to it, I'll keep those intact :)
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[2011/11/14 06:47:21] <ohadlevy> tim|mac: http://pastie.org/2861921
[2011/11/14 06:47:33] <ohadlevy> tim|mac: you can add a header :)
[2011/11/14 06:47:37] <ohadlevy> only if it works ;)
[2011/11/14 06:47:45] <tim|mac> hehehe ok ;-)
[2011/11/14 06:48:23] <tim|mac> Could not retrieve running_guests: Connect has been freed
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[2011/11/14 06:48:46] <_rc> setcode defines a code block that runs later
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[2011/11/14 06:49:31] <_rc> I'd put all the code in the block
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[2011/11/14 06:49:48] <tim|mac> ah yes, removed that and no errors anymore
[2011/11/14 06:49:53] <gucki> hi
[2011/11/14 06:50:13] <daff> I am trying to do some user management via puppet (so that our sysadmin team gets local user accounts on a machine, the rest is from LDAP), and found this: http://www.craigdunn.org/2011/03/puppet-working-with-define-based-virtuals/
[2011/11/14 06:50:17] <gucki> how can i get my authorized_keys purged before any keys get added with ssh_authorized_key :)
[2011/11/14 06:50:21] <ohadlevy> tim|mac: and new facts? :)
[2011/11/14 06:50:39] <_rc> tim|mac: removed? if you removed the secode line you removed the fact
[2011/11/14 06:50:49] <daff> however, I would like to know how I can conditionally set the groups a user should be member of
[2011/11/14 06:51:15] <daff> i.e. on a physical host that has libvirt installed I'd like the admin users to be part of the libvirtd group
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[2011/11/14 06:51:24] <tim|mac> _rc: removed the setcode block
[2011/11/14 06:51:29] <tim|mac> kept the code
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[2011/11/14 06:51:32] <daff> how would I describe that in puppet?
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[2011/11/14 06:52:12] <_rc> then you don't actally set a way for the fact to resolve
[2011/11/14 06:52:34] <tim|mac> but no luck: http://pastie.org/2861944
[2011/11/14 06:53:04] <_rc> http://pastie.org/2861955
[2011/11/14 06:53:20] <gucki> anybody knows how to do this? :)
[2011/11/14 06:53:21] <ohadlevy> tim|mac: one sec
[2011/11/14 06:53:42] <_rc> tim|mac: try that one
[2011/11/14 06:53:49] <tim|mac> ah got ya
[2011/11/14 06:54:09] <tim|mac> running_guests => 1412
[2011/11/14 06:54:11] <tim|mac> almost :)
[2011/11/14 06:54:16] <_rc> the block is run lazily, the first time facter resolves it
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[2011/11/14 06:55:24] <_rc> so half having the code outside just doesn't work. what some folks do is put a lot of code outside, a simple variable dereference in the setcode, but then things don't run lazily
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[2011/11/14 06:57:29] <tim|mac> http://pastie.org/2861982
[2011/11/14 06:57:32] <ohadlevy> _rc: in here, we need to close the connection
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[2011/11/14 06:57:47] <ohadlevy> tim|mac: ah, right, one sec
[2011/11/14 06:57:49] <_rc> ohadlevy: sure; but not around fact declaration
[2011/11/14 06:58:02] <_rc> tim|mac: http://pastie.org/2861955
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[2011/11/14 06:58:35] <tim|mac> _rc: that gives me the ids... i'd like to have their names
[2011/11/14 06:58:39] <flipwork> logstash, who's using it?
[2011/11/14 06:58:58] <_rc> well then you'll need to do some more stuff with that api to dereference it
[2011/11/14 06:59:03] <_rc> http://libvirt.org/ruby/api/index.html
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[2011/11/14 07:02:07] <ohadlevy> tim|mac: http://pastie.org/2862009
[2011/11/14 07:03:11] <tim|mac> running_guests => tfvps66, icinga, puppetmaster
[2011/11/14 07:03:13] <tim|mac> awesome!
[2011/11/14 07:03:20] <tim|mac> thx ohadlevy, _rc
[2011/11/14 07:03:46] <erthad> is there a way to iterate over a hash keys in puppet?
[2011/11/14 07:03:51] <ohadlevy> tim|mac: now its too bad facter does not support complex data structures
[2011/11/14 07:03:53] <erthad> like each_key of ruby
[2011/11/14 07:04:03] <ohadlevy> erthad: is it already a hash?
[2011/11/14 07:04:05] <fragfutter> erthad: no loops inside of puppet.
[2011/11/14 07:04:21] <ohadlevy> erthad: you can using inline_template or something, but its usually a bad design
[2011/11/14 07:04:52] <erthad> thanks, I'll move that to ERB then
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[2011/11/14 07:05:22] <erthad> as actually I need to fill up ERB template from a hash
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[2011/11/14 07:06:18] <tim|mac> ohadlevy: true, but the comma separated value is easily converted into an array with split()
[2011/11/14 07:07:56] <flipwork> heh, graylog2 can handle about 10 minutes of my log volume before it gets unusably slow
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[2011/11/14 07:12:50] <IndyMichaelB> I'm working on my first virtual resource, and I'm doing something wrong. Can someone take a quick look at my code http://pastebin.com/yA2ZbtUh and point me in the right direction?
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[2011/11/14 07:13:55] <_rc> IndyMichaelB: line 23. no /tmp
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[2011/11/14 07:14:35] <IndyMichaelB> _rc: {smacking my forehead … thanks}
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[2011/11/14 07:19:36] <daff> in any puppet module, how would I check if some package (not necessarily managed by puppet) is installed or not?
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[2011/11/14 07:20:24] <daff> or, in general, how do I check or ask for things not known by facter?
[2011/11/14 07:20:40] <daff> should I use extlookup?
[2011/11/14 07:20:42] <tim|mac> daff: you can only check for that when the package is installed via puppet (or you can create a fact for each package)
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[2011/11/14 07:21:36] <tim|mac> daff: puppet isn't really designed to get info from other sources, the idea is that you put the entire machine under puppet control, not just parts of it
[2011/11/14 07:21:42] <tim|mac> at least, that's when puppet works best imho
[2011/11/14 07:21:52] <daff> I see, yes. that makes sense of course
[2011/11/14 07:22:32] <daff> that just creates a whole rat's tail of dependencies on modules I have not yet written :)
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[2011/11/14 07:22:54] <tim|mac> extlookup (or better, hiera) seem to be able to provide general information that you can use for variables, but i don't think it's very suited for checking if a package is installed or not
[2011/11/14 07:24:05] <daff> ah, everything keeps coming back to R.I.Pienaar's work :)
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[2011/11/14 07:38:08] <gucki> how can i get my authorized_keys purged before any keys get added with ssh_authorized_key :)
[2011/11/14 07:39:37] <daff> gucki: maybe exec a "cat /dev/null > authorized_keys" somewhere?
[2011/11/14 07:40:31] <gucki> daff: but how can i make it automatically purge the file (run the command you suggested) when the first ssh_authorized_key is invoked?
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[2011/11/14 07:41:46] <kjetilho> gucki: Someone(tm) should implement support for purge for ssh_authorized_key :-)
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[2011/11/14 07:42:01] <_rc> gucki: so what you're trying to achieve is that the only content of that file is what puppet says it should be?
[2011/11/14 07:42:14] <gucki> _rc: yes
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[2011/11/14 07:43:09] <_rc> when we want to do that, we wrap it in a define which uses concat at the backend (ie. not using the default type)
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[2011/11/14 07:43:56] <gucki> _rc: could you show me an example? :)
[2011/11/14 07:45:01] <ralfgro> Hi! We are on the way to create our first puppet setup
[2011/11/14 07:45:11] <_rc> gucki: https://github.com/ripienaar/puppet-concat#readme
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[2011/11/14 07:45:44] <ralfgro> is it possible to give the apt package provider a proxy variable?
[2011/11/14 07:46:17] @ Quit: andersbr: Quit: andersbr
[2011/11/14 07:47:00] <ralfgro> we have a not so common problem, that we haven't the full responsibility for all of the clients
[2011/11/14 07:47:46] <ralfgro> so there are a number of clients where a proxy server is configured and apt can not reach our internal package mirror
[2011/11/14 07:47:50] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Downloading_Puppet (#117) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Downloading_Puppet?version=117 (by Michael Stahnke)
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[2011/11/14 07:48:12] <ralfgro> so we would like to unset this proxy somewhere in puppet
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[2011/11/14 07:48:49] <gucki> _rc: thanks, i'll give it a try :)
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[2011/11/14 07:56:05] <flipwork> wow, the difference between logstash speed and graylog2 is astounding
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[2011/11/14 07:58:29] <fragfutter> flipwork: and the winner is?
[2011/11/14 07:58:54] <flipwork> fragfutter: logstash by a country mile
[2011/11/14 07:59:21] <flipwork> which I'm guessing is down to the elasticsearch message store
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[2011/11/14 07:59:49] <flipwork> vs graylog2's mongodb. Apparently graylog2 is switching to elasticsearch for 0.9.6, but it isn't ready for primetime
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[2011/11/14 08:01:02] <samkottler> flipwork: they are moving away from mongo?
[2011/11/14 08:01:51] <flipwork> samkottler: mongo will continue being used for meta-data, but not for message storage
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[2011/11/14 08:04:05] <daff> what could be the problem when puppetmaster complains that myclass, as in "include myclass" cannot be found?
[2011/11/14 08:04:28] <flipwork> you're including something called "myclass" which doesn't exist
[2011/11/14 08:05:21] <_rc> it means you probably didn't play nice ith thautoloadertho
[2011/11/14 08:05:29] <_rc> *the autoloader
[2011/11/14 08:05:35] <daff> but the class itself exists, i.e. I have a myclass.pp which defines "class myclass { ... }"
[2011/11/14 08:06:00] <_rc> right, that's the problem.
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[2011/11/14 08:06:22] <daff> (I am new to puppet so please bear with me :)
[2011/11/14 08:06:33] <walkeran> daff: That class (myclass) should be in modules/myclass/init.pp
[2011/11/14 08:06:34] <daff> what *is* the problem here?
[2011/11/14 08:06:37] <_rc> it shouldn't be in myclass.pp, it should be in modules/myclass//manifests/init.pp
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[2011/11/14 08:06:47] <walkeran> whoops... sorry... what _rc said :)
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[2011/11/14 08:07:42] <daff> ah ok
[2011/11/14 08:08:17] <daff> so, why wouldn't it be enough if init.pp has "import classes/*.pp"
[2011/11/14 08:08:28] <daff> and thus imports classes/myclass.pp?
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[2011/11/14 08:08:49] <_rc> no, import is evil.
[2011/11/14 08:08:56] <daff> oy, didn't know that
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[2011/11/14 08:09:49] <_rc> if you were to use import classes/* it'd have to be in site.pp, at the top, before any node declarations
[2011/11/14 08:10:08] <_rc> but you're better off organising around classes in modules
[2011/11/14 08:10:26] <_rc> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/modules.html#module-autoloading
[2011/11/14 08:10:53] <daff> I try to do that, guided by Pro Puppet
[2011/11/14 08:11:46] <daff> so in
[2011/11/14 08:11:46] <daff> import "classes/*.pp"
[2011/11/14 08:11:47] <daff> class accounts { include accounts::params, accounts::virtual
[2011/11/14 08:11:50] <daff> }
[2011/11/14 08:11:53] <daff> the import is evil?
[2011/11/14 08:11:53] <astrostl> i have a simple libcpanm::cpanm for installing cpan modules. i have one module which has an unlisted dependency, so i would like to install it first. what should i use to frame a require of my own defined type?
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[2011/11/14 08:12:11] <_rc> it's been a while since I looked at Pro, but I think they make you use classes in moudles
[2011/11/14 08:12:17] <astrostl> require => Libcpanm::Cpanm['foo'] ?
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[2011/11/14 08:13:06] <_rc> daff: yes, avoid the import, lay out the code by the conventions
[2011/11/14 08:13:33] <astrostl> nm worked just like i hoped
[2011/11/14 08:13:53] <daff> _rc: indeed they do, that import statement must have come from me, thought it was necessary
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[2011/11/14 08:27:20] <daff> ok, I had a whole mess of imports and classes directories which came from our earlier attempts at creating puppet modules
[2011/11/14 08:27:42] <daff> cleaned up now and everything works, thanks _rc and walkeran
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[2011/11/14 08:35:22] <lh> anyone have a good link to a thread discussing the possible reasons why nodes aren't joining the dashboard and populating info...
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[2011/11/14 08:36:39] <lh> my background pending task # is rising as well but there isn't anything to click to view what they are (in the dashboard)
[2011/11/14 08:37:31] <_rc> so you need to run the backround task doer
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[2011/11/14 08:38:01] <lh> k, brb then
[2011/11/14 08:39:14] <lh> ah thanks, I see a bunch of permission denied issues
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[2011/11/14 08:39:25] <lh> let me resolve this, it may be the reason nothing was populating.
[2011/11/14 08:39:50] <_rc> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/dashboard/manual/1.2/bootstrapping.html#starting-and-managing-delayed-job-workers
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[2011/11/14 08:48:36] <lh> I chown'd -R puppet-dashboard. /usr/share/puppet-dashboard
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[2011/11/14 08:48:46] <lh> but the new yaml files being created in the spool dir are root.root
[2011/11/14 08:48:51] <lh> any idea where I need to change owner/group
[2011/11/14 08:49:16] <_rc> what process is putting them into the spool?
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[2011/11/14 08:50:02] <lh> they get put in there when i kick a node
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[2011/11/14 08:51:24] <lh> I am using webrick atm, maybe it's not dropping privs, sorta noob.
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[2011/11/14 08:51:44] <lh> I was going to switch to apache/passenger after I see progress, heh.
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[2011/11/14 08:52:43] <bd> suddenly, my passenger setupo fails with: Could not prepare for execution: Got 1 failure(s) while initializing: change from absent to directory failed: Could not set 'directory on ensure: Permission denied - /etc/puppet/ssl
[2011/11/14 08:53:01] <bd> in /etc/puppet/puppet.conf I set: ssldir=/var/lib/puppet/ssl
[2011/11/14 08:53:10] <bd> and that worked like a charm until an hour ago
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[2011/11/14 08:54:27] <dan__t> 'morning!
[2011/11/14 08:54:44] <lh> _rc, is a call to webrick what could be placing the yaml file there as root?
[2011/11/14 08:55:01] <lh> i guess I can strace.
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[2011/11/14 08:56:02] <dan__t> I have an interesting problem, not sure where it's coming from? (/File[/var/lib/puppet/reports]/mode) change from 755 to 750 failed: failed to set mode 755 on /var/lib/puppet/reports: Operation not permitted - /var/lib/puppet/reports
[2011/11/14 08:56:19] <dan__t> I see a similar error from Passenger: Could not prepare for execution: Got 1 failure(s) while initializing: change from 755 to 750 failed: failed to set mode 755 on /var/lib/puppet/reports: Operation not permitted - /var/lib/puppet/reports . Not sure if it's Puppet or Passenger doing this.
[2011/11/14 08:57:58] <_rc> dan__t: sounds like puppets startup. passenger runs it at the user who owns the rack/config.ru
[2011/11/14 08:58:09] <dan__t> right
[2011/11/14 08:58:15] <dan__t> That makes sense.
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[2011/11/14 08:58:20] <_rc> and then the master asserts the modes of its system paths
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[2011/11/14 08:59:09] <dan__t> It's owned puppet:root
[2011/11/14 09:00:00] <_rc> and is that who owns /var/lib/puppet/reports?
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[2011/11/14 09:00:29] <nate_h> so i have two classes being include
[2011/11/14 09:00:31] <nate_h> included
[2011/11/14 09:00:37] <nate_h> and a relationship ->
[2011/11/14 09:00:38] <nate_h> http://www.pastie.org/2862562
[2011/11/14 09:00:44] <nate_h> but only every other time is the second class executed
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[2011/11/14 09:00:48] <nate_h> why would it do something like that?
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[2011/11/14 09:00:58] <dan__t> hah.
[2011/11/14 09:01:02] <nate_h> the first class is basically clearing a file
[2011/11/14 09:01:02] <dan__t> Sorry. Monday :/
[2011/11/14 09:01:12] <nate_h> the second class is using sysctl type to write to the file
[2011/11/14 09:01:19] <dan__t> So, what creates /var/lib/puppet/reports?
[2011/11/14 09:01:42] <_rc> your OS packages, or the puppetmaster if it can
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[2011/11/14 09:02:11] <_rc> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/stable/configuration.html#manageinternalfilepermissions
[2011/11/14 09:02:29] <dan__t> Got it.
[2011/11/14 09:02:33] <nate_h> any ideas?
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[2011/11/14 09:04:29] <dan__t> thanks, _rc.
[2011/11/14 09:04:55] <dan__t> any way I can auto-set that dir chown'd puppet:root instead of Puppet creating that as root:root?
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[2011/11/14 09:05:13] <nate_h> dan__t, change the rpm?
[2011/11/14 09:05:34] <_rc> puppet probably didn't vcreate it root:root
[2011/11/14 09:05:39] <dan__t> The dir isn't created via rpm
[2011/11/14 09:05:48] <nate_h> dan__t, oh, its a runtime thing?
[2011/11/14 09:05:52] <dan__t> Ok, puppetmasterd.
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[2011/11/14 09:07:28] <_rc> you can spiecify the ownerships of each file-like thing in http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/configuring.html
[2011/11/14 09:08:03] <_rc> look for the odd vardir = /foo { owner => "kevin" } syntax
[2011/11/14 09:08:39] <bd> FWIW, my error was a wrong permission on /etc/puppet/puppet.conf
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[2011/11/14 09:09:55] <nate_h> does anyone know of a puppet module that handles sysctl in purge mode?
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[2011/11/14 09:10:55] <nate_h> the type i see on github just adds modifies values but gives no way to purge
[2011/11/14 09:11:33] <lh> _rc: within /etc/init.d/puppet-dashboard-workers I changed the daemon user from puppet-dashboard to root, to fix it for now
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[2011/11/14 09:12:07] <resmo> hi
[2011/11/14 09:12:15] <lh> ill prob ask how to get it from needing root after I switch off of webrick.
[2011/11/14 09:12:42] <_rc> why not just not run the webrick as root now?
[2011/11/14 09:12:53] <_rc> rather than make a mess you have to unpick later?
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[2011/11/14 09:13:16] <resmo> I want exactly doing this http://serverfault.com/questions/316062/using-puppet-to-remove-ssh-keys-not-explicitly-allowed but wondering where to put this "resources {...}" in?
[2011/11/14 09:15:00] <dan__t> thanks, _rc .
[2011/11/14 09:16:28] <lh> _rc, it already is running as root
[2011/11/14 09:16:53] <lh> hence the yaml files being created as root (I'm assuming). I switched everything to :80 rather than :3000
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[2011/11/14 09:17:20] <_rc> maybe my grammar was dense. "why not just *NOT* run as root". yes it was dense. I meant "change it to not run as root"
[2011/11/14 09:17:47] <lh> ah, because I wanted to use port 80, for FW issues at the moment, then later 443
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[2011/11/14 09:18:52] <lh> Is it not commin for anyone to switch it to port 443?, if not I will put in a ticket to open that port
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[2011/11/14 09:19:00] <lh> if it's going to cause further issues later
[2011/11/14 09:19:23] <lh> s/commin/common
[2011/11/14 09:19:28] <_rc> it's common to run it under passenger,, which then handles the user separation for you
[2011/11/14 09:19:36] <lh> bingo
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[2011/11/14 09:19:48] <lh> so let me do that next and it should handle the priv dropping
[2011/11/14 09:19:49] <lh> thnx
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[2011/11/14 09:44:33] <xover1> hi
[2011/11/14 09:45:00] <xover1> must i use the same FQDN for adding a host to the server?
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[2011/11/14 09:46:08] <xover1> i am getting this no route to host error, but i can ssh and ping the server
[2011/11/14 09:46:38] <kjetilho> sounds like a local firewall
[2011/11/14 09:46:49] <kjetilho> ... or a remote one ;)
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[2011/11/14 09:47:41] <nate_h> i was just trying to figure out how the "host" type does purge but i can't find anything referencing purge in the type
[2011/11/14 09:47:47] <nate_h> is it inheriting it from somewhere?
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[2011/11/14 09:50:04] <nate_h> or does anyone have some examples I could look at for a type that "purges"
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[2011/11/14 09:50:30] <xover1> i used static nat
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[2011/11/14 09:51:29] <xover1> do i need to add subnets for access?
[2011/11/14 09:51:35] <xover1> in the puppet comf?
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[2011/11/14 09:54:22] <xover1> how do i provide access to puppet from outside the subnet?
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[2011/11/14 09:55:53] <xover1> it cant see 4180
[2011/11/14 09:56:45] <joe-mac> 8140 you mean
[2011/11/14 09:56:53] <xover1> yeah
[2011/11/14 09:57:46] <xover1> hmm
[2011/11/14 09:57:49] <joe-mac> well, is the port open on the server?
[2011/11/14 09:57:55] <joe-mac> if so this isn't really a puppet question
[2011/11/14 09:59:20] <nate_h> anyone know how to implement purge for a type?
[2011/11/14 10:00:36] <lynxman> anyone knows if I can overload the User core type? I want to change my user shell to something else only on some specific machine scenarios
[2011/11/14 10:02:09] <xover1> the FW is not blockingit
[2011/11/14 10:02:17] <xover1> is this a puppet config?
[2011/11/14 10:03:47] <nate_h> lynxman, what do you mean? can't you just create a user with a shell based on a fact?
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[2011/11/14 10:04:24] <kjetilho> xover1: no, Puppet can not cause "No route to host".
[2011/11/14 10:04:38] <kjetilho> it has to be network equipment responding with that ICMP message
[2011/11/14 10:04:51] <lynxman> nate_h: yeah, I create the user in one class and I was trying to modify the user shell from another which ends up in a resource conflict :/
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[2011/11/14 10:05:15] <nate_h> lynxman, ya you kind of have to create it with the correct shell at creation.
[2011/11/14 10:05:29] <nate_h> lynxman, but if you just made the shell a variable it could modify the user
[2011/11/14 10:05:36] <lynxman> nate_h: yeah, was trying to avoid that but that's the same sane solution I arrived to :)
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[2011/11/14 10:05:39] <nate_h> vs trying to have two user types of the same user
[2011/11/14 10:05:52] <lynxman> nate_h: definitely, I'll just go that way then, make a case scenario at shell
[2011/11/14 10:06:19] <nate_h> now someone help me write a type that does purge :P
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[2011/11/14 10:09:04] <lynxman> nate_h: thanks :)
[2011/11/14 10:09:13] <joe-mac> nate_h: you tag it with like has_feature or some function like that then add a method to do it
[2011/11/14 10:09:19] <joe-mac> I thought the default user one supported it
[2011/11/14 10:10:27] <nate_h> joe-mac, ya i'm just trying to find an example I can follow
[2011/11/14 10:10:47] <joe-mac> look at ssh_authorized_key, iirc that does
[2011/11/14 10:10:57] <nate_h> checking
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[2011/11/14 10:10:58] <joe-mac> I am also pretty sure package does
[2011/11/14 10:11:01] <nate_h> host does too
[2011/11/14 10:11:05] <nate_h> but i couldn't find the reference to it
[2011/11/14 10:11:26] <nate_h> erri mean cron does
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[2011/11/14 10:11:54] <nate_h> but i grep for purge in the type
[2011/11/14 10:11:54] <nate_h> and nothing
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[2011/11/14 10:12:00] <kjetilho> user works
[2011/11/14 10:12:16] <kjetilho> ssh_authorized_key doesn't do purge, I think
[2011/11/14 10:12:17] <nate_h> so i don't know where it sbeing defined
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[2011/11/14 10:12:38] <nate_h> looking in /usr/lib64/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/puppet/type/user.rb
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[2011/11/14 10:15:11] <nate_h> guess its a metaparameter i'm seeing references to it in resources.rb
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[2011/11/14 10:16:41] <dan__t> hrm, i have a chicken/egg problem I think. I made a custom fact called 'env'. I'm running Puppet in standalone mode to bootstrap a Puppet server, based on a local set of manifests. Does pluginsync *not* work in standalone mode?
[2011/11/14 10:16:56] <dan__t> That fact is a plugin in a puppet module named... puppet. It's not getting processed.
[2011/11/14 10:16:58] <nate_h> dan__t you could set the fact on the commandline
[2011/11/14 10:17:11] <nate_h> $FACTER_FACT
[2011/11/14 10:17:14] <dan__t> I run in to "Failed to parse template puppet/puppet.conf.client.erb: Could not find value for 'env' at 13:/etc/puppet/modul..." etc
[2011/11/14 10:17:20] <dan__t> I think I tried that the other day.
[2011/11/14 10:17:26] <dan__t> wait, no. you're right. that will work. brb.
[2011/11/14 10:17:37] <dan__t> Isn't it FACTER_factname?
[2011/11/14 10:18:03] <_rc> pluginsync should work though, there was a person the other day who couldn't turn them off
[2011/11/14 10:18:32] <dan__t> I use --pluginsync true, and I end up with: warning: Only one file can be applied per run. Skipping true
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[2011/11/14 10:19:37] <_rc> --pluginsync doesn't take an option, so it assumed 'true' is a file
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[2011/11/14 10:19:59] <dan__t> i thought that was how it works, if found in puppet.conf
[2011/11/14 10:20:04] <dan__t> i didn't know that.
[2011/11/14 10:20:24] <_rc> in puppet.conf it's not quite the same as on the cli
[2011/11/14 10:20:25] <nate_h> dan__t something like that, i forget
[2011/11/14 10:20:41] <dan__t> that "not quite" is a very gray area.
[2011/11/14 10:20:42] <dan__t> :)
[2011/11/14 10:21:14] <nate_h> dan__t, usually I run puppet with the environment specified during the boostrap, then i have a module that lays down the puppet.conf for me
[2011/11/14 10:21:20] <nate_h> and it knows the env because you specified it
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[2011/11/14 10:25:12] <dan__t> uea
[2011/11/14 10:25:14] <dan__t> er, yea.
[2011/11/14 10:25:24] <dan__t> I have 'env', whch is the same thing, but it pulls the environment fm a part in the fqdn
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[2011/11/14 10:26:09] <nate_h> dan__t, ya i just use the fact %environment
[2011/11/14 10:26:14] <nate_h> and set it once at bootstrap
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[2011/11/14 10:26:36] <dan__t> ah
[2011/11/14 10:26:45] <dan__t> seems to work now
[2011/11/14 10:26:47] <dan__t> Parameter path failed: File paths must be fully qualified, not 'undef' at /etc/puppet/modules/prod/concat/manifests/setup.pp:37
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[2011/11/14 10:26:56] <dan__t> Which is https://github.com/ripienaar/puppet-concat/blob/master/manifests/setup.pp
[2011/11/14 10:26:57] <dan__t> :37
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[2011/11/14 10:27:19] <whack> dan__t: what version of puppet?
[2011/11/14 10:27:22] <nate_h> you could always wrap your bootstrap script so _it_ parses your hostname and then passes that to the environment=
[2011/11/14 10:27:29] <dan__t> 2.7.6
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[2011/11/14 10:27:36] <dan__t> that's what I have, nate.
[2011/11/14 10:27:40] <dan__t> awk hackery.
[2011/11/14 10:27:48] <dan__t> In fact, it's part of kickstart %post
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[2011/11/14 10:28:13] <robbiet480> can anyone here help me with a cloud provisioner problem
[2011/11/14 10:28:28] <robbiet480> the install script is doing fine, etc, just the server name it writes to /etc/puppet/pupet.conf isnt correct
[2011/11/14 10:28:35] <dan__t> why what are you think, whack?
[2011/11/14 10:28:42] <robbiet480> where can i go to change what it puts in the /etc/puppet/puppet.conf
[2011/11/14 10:28:57] <nate_h> robbiet480, what cloud provisioner are you using?
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[2011/11/14 10:29:07] <whack> dan__t: well, figured it might be an old bug, probably not
[2011/11/14 10:29:10] <dan__t> oh ok,
[2011/11/14 10:29:19] <robbiet480> nate_h: how do i get the version for you?
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[2011/11/14 10:29:31] <nate_h> robbiet480, what i'm saying is, we have no idea what module you are using
[2011/11/14 10:29:35] <robbiet480> oh
[2011/11/14 10:29:38] <whack> dan__t: oh
[2011/11/14 10:29:48] <whack> dan__t: [ $concatdir, "${concatdir}/bin" ]:
[2011/11/14 10:30:00] <robbiet480> i followed the getting started instructions which says do gem install puppet-module then puppet-module install cloud_provisioner
[2011/11/14 10:30:02] <whack> I bet $concatdir is not set (you need to set $concat_basedir)
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[2011/11/14 10:30:22] <whack> if $concat_basedir isn't set, then $concatdir will be undef and file { $concatdir: ...; } will be an error
[2011/11/14 10:30:35] <dan__t> lib/facter/concat_basedir.rb:Facter.add("concat_basedir") do
[2011/11/14 10:30:36] <dan__t> yep.
[2011/11/14 10:30:43] <dan__t> those facts aren't present yet.
[2011/11/14 10:30:55] <robbiet480> also, in gems.erb which the template for gems.sh, the server line says: server = <%= options[:server] %>
[2011/11/14 10:31:17] <whack> dan__t: you'll probably need to make it conditional, then: if ($concat_basedir) { include concat::setup }
[2011/11/14 10:31:29] <dan__t> hmm
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[2011/11/14 10:31:58] <nate_h> robbiet480, link the instructions?
[2011/11/14 10:32:05] <robbiet480> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/cloud_pack_getting_started.html
[2011/11/14 10:32:05] * whack &
[2011/11/14 10:32:08] <dan__t> thank you.
[2011/11/14 10:32:26] <robbiet480> nate_h: ^
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[2011/11/14 10:34:08] <devonstclair> :D
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[2011/11/14 10:40:49] <nate_h> robbiet480, what server is it getting? I haven't really used that provisioner before
[2011/11/14 10:41:01] <robbiet480> nate_h: its ok, i think i just got it working
[2011/11/14 10:41:03] <robbiet480> thx anyway
[2011/11/14 10:41:15] <nate_h> k :)
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[2011/11/14 10:44:57] <mrwacky42> so I'm looking at https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-stdlib/blob/master/lib/puppet/parser/functions/getvar.rb
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[2011/11/14 10:45:18] <mrwacky42> how is this different than just saying $myvar = ${namespace}::myvar ?
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[2011/11/14 11:20:08] <sarkis> hey guys so i spinned up a puppetmaster that i will be using for new instances i spin up, however, I am having a hell of a time getting the puppetmaster to use itself as the master and configure itself..
[2011/11/14 11:20:18] <sarkis> it complains about a certificate not being properly made against a private key
[2011/11/14 11:20:34] <sarkis> but i have 127.0.0.1 puppet in my hosts file, wondering why it still needs a certificate for itself?
[2011/11/14 11:21:07] <sarkis> and if so what do i need to do to regenerate the cert properly? can i clear out /var/lib/puppet?
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[2011/11/14 11:26:13] <Lorn> Hi, can I use a hash output from a ruby function inside puppet?
[2011/11/14 11:27:09] <Lorn> I have this http://pastebin.com/DVGXFNgZ
[2011/11/14 11:27:53] <Lorn> I want to use hash key/values at nodeconfi.pp, how can I do this?
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[2011/11/14 11:32:28] <instagrahamcrack> anyone know what the training schedule is beyond Dec? Need to give more than a months notice to work.
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[2011/11/14 12:10:23] <crazed> can puppet handle complex structures like $data = { 'foo' => [ 'one', 'two', 'three' ] }
[2011/11/14 12:11:46] <Sp4rKy> depends of the type
[2011/11/14 12:12:19] <Sp4rKy> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/language_guide.html#arrays
[2011/11/14 12:13:48] <crazed> on the type?
[2011/11/14 12:14:09] <crazed> i'm trying to loop through a hash, and use the values of each key as an array
[2011/11/14 12:14:17] <crazed> so that i can make a simple template
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[2011/11/14 12:16:26] <indigo> if i set notify => on a class, does that mean when any resource declared in that class is updated, the notify will be triggered?
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[2011/11/14 12:17:21] <indigo> i'm finding myself using an idiom where i put all the configuration files for a module in a subclass, then delare that class with require => Package[...], notify => Service[...]. Good idea?
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[2011/11/14 12:20:49] <crazed> the answer wound up being yes for anyone wondering
[2011/11/14 12:22:02] <Sp4rKy> indigo: why don't you use subscribe to the config dir ?
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[2011/11/14 12:23:22] <indigo> Sp4rKy: i wouldn't think that would also subscribe to files in the config dir, if they were declared as separate resources.
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[2011/11/14 12:24:27] <indigo> Sp4rKy: also, part of the reason i'm doing this is that i have two platforms with pretty different configurations, each in a separate class. If i can just subscribe to the class, then i can encapsulate the differences.
[2011/11/14 12:24:42] <indigo> otherwise i'd have to conditionally subscribe to something different based on the OS.
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[2011/11/14 12:36:08] <cr3> if I have two classes that need to call class { 'myproject::files': instance => 'foo' } in order to make sure some files are available, I get the error that the class is already defined. how can I solve this problem?
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[2011/11/14 12:40:24] <savid> Hi, can someone explain why this is invalid syntax? CustomUser { groups +> ["www-data"] }
[2011/11/14 12:40:50] <savid> I was under the assumption that the plusignment operator was to add values to resource parameters...
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[2011/11/14 12:48:37] <dwalu> I have a class, log::shipper($logfiles,$loghost,$logport). In that class I call a define, upstart::job which has one parameter $upstart_template (which is a template that gets passed to upstart::job). Will the template inside of upstart::job receive those three parameters (logfiles, loghost, logport)? or will I need to call $log::shipper::variablename inside of the template I call from upstart::job?
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[2011/11/14 12:54:23] <dwalu> https://gist.github.com/1365124 shows my 2 classes, 1 define and the erb template
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[2011/11/14 13:02:11] <dwalu> or do I need to express that file definition inside of log_shipper rather than inside of upstart::job?
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[2011/11/14 13:13:23] <lh> I have my facts_terminus = inventory_active_record, and checked the db, perms are right, I can hit everything with curl, what do I need to do next for the puppet-dashboard to show the facts
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[2011/11/14 13:15:46] <hajile> hello
[2011/11/14 13:15:58] <hajile> is anyone else using the puppet-rvm module?
[2011/11/14 13:16:15] <hajile> github/blt04/puppet-rvm, that is
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[2011/11/14 13:17:20] <hajile> i'm just curious if other people have successfully embedded the module (pulled straight from the repo) inside of puppet living in a git repo
[2011/11/14 13:18:05] <hajile> and then been able to execute pulls inside the subproject
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[2011/11/14 13:29:30] <ryoohki> doesn't cfengine, puppet, and chef do sort of the same thing but with different advantages and disadvantages? cfengine is very good it's low memory and cpu usage, large mind share... puppet addresses cfengine short comings and is a bit more modern, and chef is close to pure ruby and is best for cloud management. is that right?
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[2011/11/14 13:30:00] <dwalu> are hyphen's not allowed inside of class/definition names?
[2011/11/14 13:30:50] <flipwork> ryoohki: a reasonable summary
[2011/11/14 13:30:55] <walkeran> dwalu: Correct
[2011/11/14 13:31:28] <ryoohki> does puppet a cpan/recipe depot like perl and chef have?
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[2011/11/14 13:32:28] <dwalu> strange. puppet parser validate in 2.7.1 catches hyphens in classnames as an error. puppet parser validate in 2.7.3 doesn't
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[2011/11/14 13:32:37] <dwalu> @waleran thank you, btw
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[2011/11/14 13:33:12] <walkeran> ryoohki: http://forge.puppetlabs.com/
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[2011/11/14 13:35:12] <kjetilho> dwalu: yes, they are. but exact behaviour of string interpolation varies with version
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[2011/11/14 13:35:36] <kjetilho> dwalu: hypens in classnames work pre 2.7, too
[2011/11/14 13:36:25] <Fthis> hey guys, looking for the best way to deploy apache config files to 100 servers and keep them under version control. i hear puppet handles that quite well. does it integrate with subversion or git for this purpose?
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[2011/11/14 13:37:06] <Volcane> it just read files, u can use any version control
[2011/11/14 13:37:16] <sarkis> anyone know why my puppetmaster is having problems with certificates communicating with itself? i want to have the puppetmaster provision itself
[2011/11/14 13:37:59] <sarkis> i keep getting errors about certs, i can't remember what exactly i have to do.. i tried to rm -rf /var/lib/puppet
[2011/11/14 13:38:03] <Fthis> Volcane: can you please explain further? i don't understand how i would use puppet with subversion/git or something similar to keep apache config files under version control
[2011/11/14 13:38:05] <sarkis> and restart puppetmaster
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[2011/11/14 13:38:47] <Volcane> Fthis: the puppet master just reads its instructions from files in /etc/puppet. so you woud just maintain a checkout of your code there
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[2011/11/14 13:39:18] <ryoohki> walkeran: yeah, i know but thanks!
[2011/11/14 13:39:22] <Volcane> Fthis: there's a much more complex post @ http://puppetlabs.com/blog/git-workflow-and-puppet-environments/ but you can tell it just reads files on disk - and it doesnt care how that files get there
[2011/11/14 13:39:33] <Volcane> Fthis: most ppl just cron a svn co, or a git clone or something
[2011/11/14 13:39:41] <sarkis> Fthis: you basically version control /etc/puppet, i usually move over /etc/puppet to /etc/puppet.orig or something and then checkout /etc/puppet
[2011/11/14 13:39:51] <kjetilho> Fthis: you will probably find that these hundreds of servers have a lot of common in their configs
[2011/11/14 13:40:08] <kjetilho> so you can state the differences as exceptional behaviour
[2011/11/14 13:40:21] <kjetilho> rather than just put a lot of duplication in a VCS
[2011/11/14 13:40:49] <Fthis> thanks very much i am going to read that blog post
[2011/11/14 13:41:44] <ryoohki> walkeran: does puppetlabs have a "cpan" of puppet solutions you can pull down like "require puppetlabs::ntp.service", i'm not talking about something user searchable with a web browser like userscripts.org
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[2011/11/14 13:42:40] <walkeran> ryoohki: no. You have to download the modules you need, and place them into your modules directory before you can use them
[2011/11/14 13:42:46] <ryoohki> walkeran: does puppetlabs have a "cpan" of puppet solutions you can pull down like "require puppetlabs::ntp.service", i'm not talking about something user searchable with a web browser like userscripts.org
[2011/11/14 13:42:51] <Fthis> what if i wanted to do version control on say, /usr/bin/httpd ? that is something that /etc/puppet cannot handle
[2011/11/14 13:42:52] <kth5> hey everyone, i'm getting the following error on a puppet node while migrating from 0.2x to 2.x: err: Could not run Puppet configuration client: Parameter require failed: No title provided and false is not a valid resource reference
[2011/11/14 13:42:55] <Volcane> ryoohki: see forge.puppetlabs.com
[2011/11/14 13:43:08] <kth5> is there any way i can find out what exactly is causing this? as in wich manifest?
[2011/11/14 13:43:12] <Volcane> Fthis: you put the files you need into puppets repository and tell puppet to maintain it on your nodes
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[2011/11/14 13:43:48] <Fthis> is there a limitation? what if i had 100 apache installs such as /usr/local/httpd1, httpd2, httpd3.... httpd100
[2011/11/14 13:44:09] <Volcane> mostly if you had 1000 servers a majority of them might have the same file?
[2011/11/14 13:44:13] <Volcane> you could build up the file from a template
[2011/11/14 13:44:24] <Volcane> so you can set some parameter and it will build the file for you based on this nodes properties etc
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[2011/11/14 13:45:20] <Fthis> k very good
[2011/11/14 13:45:30] <Fthis> is there a search term i can google for this type of stuff ?
[2011/11/14 13:45:35] <Fthis> or any posts you have in mind?
[2011/11/14 13:45:45] <Volcane> best to click around docs.puppetlabs.com
[2011/11/14 13:45:55] <Volcane> maybe play with docs.puppetlabs.com/learning
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[2011/11/14 13:46:48] <Fthis> thanks man
[2011/11/14 13:48:08] <sarkis> whats the proper way to debug certificate issues on puppetmaster server, particularly when trying to get it to provision itself?
[2011/11/14 13:48:19] <sarkis> i keep getting various cert issues
[2011/11/14 13:48:37] <hajile> Can you pastebin an error?
[2011/11/14 13:48:53] <lh> sarkis: you need to start the puppet client on the server as well then
[2011/11/14 13:48:58] <lh> it will gen the certs
[2011/11/14 13:49:01] <sarkis> oh right
[2011/11/14 13:49:08] <sarkis> i think i missed that part.. i started puppetmaster
[2011/11/14 13:49:17] <sarkis> i then have to start puppetd?"
[2011/11/14 13:49:19] <lh> ya just start puppet and it will work
[2011/11/14 13:49:21] <lh> yea
[2011/11/14 13:49:27] <sarkis> doh!
[2011/11/14 13:49:34] <sarkis> i was doing puppetd --test without starting puppetd
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[2011/11/14 13:50:04] <sarkis> i didnt know it needed to gen a cert and sign it if it was the same server.. i tried putting 127.0.0.1 puppet in my /etc/hosts
[2011/11/14 13:50:16] <lh> ya you need to sign it
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[2011/11/14 13:56:57] <jsm> interesting scenario: i have a ifs server class that creates mount points and an application class that actually does the mounting… sometimes i want the application class and the nfs server class to be on the same machine (for testing).. but in this case the application class tries to mount the mount point before it's created..
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[2011/11/14 13:57:34] <jsm> I can't think of the right option to make sure that the nfs server class is executed before the application class
[2011/11/14 13:57:42] <jsm> (when on the same box)
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[2011/11/14 13:59:32] <Volcane> Class["nfs::server"] -> Class["application"]
[2011/11/14 14:00:28] <Volcane> jsm: thats called chaining - see the language guide
[2011/11/14 14:01:29] <jsm> Volcane: even if normally the dependency isn't there? (there is no dependency on the application server class being evaluated if the server is a pure nfs server)
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[2011/11/14 14:01:42] <Volcane> u can add that to the application class
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[2011/11/14 14:02:41] <jsm> true
[2011/11/14 14:02:56] <jsm> thanks
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[2011/11/14 14:19:34] <colon_D> whats the right way to avoid duplicate definition here? http://pastie.org/2864137 i dont know how to define package like that.
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[2011/11/14 14:27:52] <dan__t> can i have a class named foo-bar ?
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[2011/11/14 14:27:56] <dan__t> Or does the hyphen kill it
[2011/11/14 14:28:23] <colon_D> it works but i was told it was best not to use that
[2011/11/14 14:28:35] <dan__t> hm
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[2011/11/14 14:31:01] <lh> Can someone point in the right direction for getting puppet-dashboard to show my node facts... I have my facts_terminus = inventory_active_record, and checked the db and perms are correct, auth.conf perms are correct as well (I can hit everything with curl), what do I need to do next for the puppet-dashboard to show the facts?
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[2011/11/14 14:44:45] <lh> ah, enable_inventory_service is set to false by default in /usr/share/puppet-dashboard/config/settings.yml
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[2011/11/14 14:48:49] <dwalu> is there a way to evaluate a template before you pass it to a class or definition?
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[2011/11/14 14:49:43] <dwalu> if I declare it as $value = template('log/mytemplate.erb') then pass $value to a definition, will that interpolate all of the variables from the parent class?
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[2011/11/14 15:03:16] <dwalu> if I declare a variable inside of a definition or a class, isn't that variable locally scoped? if so why do I get warnings about it being a toplevel variable?
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[2011/11/14 15:17:24] <comptona> dwalu: you can use the inline_template function to get some of that functionality: http://goo.gl/Mab4s
[2011/11/14 15:17:43] <comptona> re: evaluating a template, not declaring a variable
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[2011/11/14 15:19:46] <dwalu> @comptona can I pass that data to anotehr class? like $value = inline_template("logs/upstart-job.conf.erb"); upstart::job {'bob': upstart_template => $value; } ?
[2011/11/14 15:20:13] <comptona> well, it doesn't work quite that way
[2011/11/14 15:20:22] <comptona> you can't load an entire template file into a variable
[2011/11/14 15:20:49] <comptona> but you can do, say, $value = inline_template("<%= other_value.split(',') %>")
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[2011/11/14 15:21:26] <dwalu> ok so in this situation, where I want to create a reusable definition that needs a template passed to it, am I just shit out of luck?
[2011/11/14 15:22:05] <comptona> I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish
[2011/11/14 15:22:16] <comptona> would you mind terribly explaining it a little for me?
[2011/11/14 15:22:19] <dwalu> sure
[2011/11/14 15:22:52] <dwalu> let me update the gist
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[2011/11/14 15:27:21] <dwalu> @comptona https://gist.github.com/1365569
[2011/11/14 15:27:39] <dwalu> mongo -> log::shipper -> upstart::job
[2011/11/14 15:28:33] <dwalu> the variables I need to interpolate on the template exist in the log::shipper definition and I'm unsure how to pass those variables to upstart::job, so I was hoping I could render that template inside of log::shipper then pass all of that to upstart::job
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[2011/11/14 15:30:02] <comptona> are you not able to just reference the variables directly, e.g. $log::shipper::value ?
[2011/11/14 15:30:15] <dwalu> reference them directly inside of the template?
[2011/11/14 15:30:44] <comptona> from upstart::job
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[2011/11/14 15:31:32] <dwalu> so inside of my upstart::job I would alias them like $value = $log::shipper::value and that way the template would know how to be parsed?
[2011/11/14 15:31:33] <comptona> "qualified variables" at http://goo.gl/DNRDz
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[2011/11/14 15:31:49] <comptona> I've never used that myself, but it's my impression it works that way
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[2011/11/14 15:36:39] @ Topic is "Important Security Announcement: http://bit.ly/AltNames | Thanks for coming to PuppetConf! Videos available http://www.youtube.com/user/puppetlabsinc | Puppet 2.7.6 and 2.6.12 available at downloads.puppetlabs.com | http://docs.puppetlabs.com | Bugs & Feature Requests http://bit.ly/dKVa0A."
[2011/11/14 15:36:39] @ Topic set by stahnma!~stahnma@fedora/stahnma on Mon Oct 24 13:04:13 -0700 2011
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[2011/11/14 15:41:18] <Anon075> hello
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[2011/11/14 15:43:02] <dwalu> @comtpona thanks, I think that worked. Blown away I need to make my code so verbose though :/
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[2011/11/14 15:48:58] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Downloading_Puppet (#118) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Downloading_Puppet?version=118 (by Michael Stahnke)
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[2011/11/14 16:08:58] <edward_> hey guys
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[2011/11/14 16:09:51] <edward_> I've got a file defining a directories group ownership recursively which works for two normla files in the dir
[2011/11/14 16:10:06] <edward_> however two virtual resources which I realize don't get changed
[2011/11/14 16:10:23] <edward_> is this a known bug or do virtual resources ignore this
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[2011/11/14 16:13:43] <Volcane> you'd need to either change the property using the correct override syntax or set the default where the virtual resources gets created
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[2011/11/14 16:20:28] <edward_> Volcane: thanks, setting it at protoyping of the resource works
[2011/11/14 16:20:39] <edward_> it's a little annoying that it's not applied but I can see how that could go bad
[2011/11/14 16:21:01] <edward_> turns out the files need tto have a different mode than their directory anyway, lucky I looked into it more :)
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[2011/11/14 16:23:30] <edward_> puppet does have a notification that's bad I notice
[2011/11/14 16:23:42] <edward_> if you set mode 0610 on a directory (via ensure) it says
[2011/11/14 16:23:50] <edward_> notice: /Stage[main]/Ssl_certs/File[/etc/ssl/private]/mode: current_value 710, should be 750 (noop)
[2011/11/14 16:23:58] <edward_> in debian (and maybe others) this is not the case
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[2011/11/14 16:27:15] <torrancew> edward_: puppet tends to add execute bits to directories unless you had a 0 in that bit, as any directory access is typically useless without the execute bit
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[2011/11/14 16:28:33] <mpdude> hi
[2011/11/14 16:28:41] <mpdude> i always run into
[2011/11/14 16:28:56] <lawnchair> when is puppet 2 coming out
[2011/11/14 16:29:22] <mpdude> file { "a": ... ; "b": ... } ~> service { ... }
[2011/11/14 16:29:39] <torrancew> lawnchair: I assume you mean puppet enterprise, and I'm afraid I don't know
[2011/11/14 16:29:45] <lawnchair> yes i mean puppet enterprise
[2011/11/14 16:29:49] <lawnchair> ok
[2011/11/14 16:29:53] <edward_> torrancew: jeez not only is it issuing that notice it's 'helping' by setting it to 750 instead of 710
[2011/11/14 16:30:00] <edward_> that's an outright bug :(
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[2011/11/14 16:30:06] <lawnchair> i figured if it was a week i'd wait to deploy to my environment but i guess ill just get going and upgrade later
[2011/11/14 16:30:22] <mpdude> that ends in "could not find resource File[a]File[b] for relationship..."
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[2011/11/14 16:30:45] <edward_> mpdude: there are 3 bugs related to that, good luck ;)
[2011/11/14 16:30:50] <mpdude> :(
[2011/11/14 16:31:05] <mpdude> but it should work that way, right?
[2011/11/14 16:31:11] <edward_> yes
[2011/11/14 16:31:22] <edward_> the major problem is that chaining resources wont take an array
[2011/11/14 16:31:26] <mpdude> good workaround that is easy to write?
[2011/11/14 16:31:27] <edward_> and that's what you're giving it
[2011/11/14 16:31:31] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Release_Management (#77) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Release_Management?version=77 (by Michael Stahnke)
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[2011/11/14 16:31:43] <edward_> apparently using classes, which is what we do. it's pretty horrid
[2011/11/14 16:31:50] <edward_> mpdude: an alternative is tags
[2011/11/14 16:32:05] <mpdude> ok, then i'll stick with classes
[2011/11/14 16:32:13] <mpdude> got that anyway for bigger modules
[2011/11/14 16:32:16] <edward_> so say File <| tags == 'files_I_tagged' |> ~> Service 'blah'
[2011/11/14 16:32:29] <edward_> yeah that's what we do though we'll be looking at tags this month
[2011/11/14 16:32:29] <mpdude> k thanks
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[2011/11/14 16:41:10] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Release_Notes (#144) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Release_Notes?version=144 (by Michael Stahnke)
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[2011/11/14 16:54:07] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Downloading_Puppet (#119) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Downloading_Puppet?version=119 (by Michael Stahnke)
[2011/11/14 16:54:07] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Downloading_Puppet (#120) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Downloading_Puppet?version=120 (by Michael Stahnke)
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[2011/11/14 17:54:37] <seanh-ansca> what does <||> mean
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[2011/11/14 17:55:15] <torrancew> seanh-ansca: that's the spaceship!
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[2011/11/14 17:55:45] <torrancew> seanh-ansca: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/virtual_resources.html#how-to-realize-resources
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[2011/11/14 19:39:04] <sarkis_> hey guys i installed puppet and puppetmaster on my server.. however when i start up puppetmaster and puppet i try and issue puppetd --test get a cert error
[2011/11/14 19:39:33] <sarkis_> err: Could not request certificate: Retrieved certificate does not match private key; please remove certificate from server and regenerate it with the current key
[2011/11/14 19:39:47] <sarkis_> whats the best way to resolve this?
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[2011/11/14 19:40:35] <dhogland> sarkis_: have you done any recent install/unintall/install testing?
[2011/11/14 19:40:57] <dhogland> sarkis_: sounds to me like you've gone through this once, and are trying maybe to reinstall an agent
[2011/11/14 19:41:03] <sarkis_> no
[2011/11/14 19:41:13] <sarkis_> i actually have not.. its a brand new system
[2011/11/14 19:42:09] <dhogland> what do you get from `puppet cert -la` on the master system?
[2011/11/14 19:42:55] <sarkis_> nothing
[2011/11/14 19:43:20] <sarkis_> god dangit
[2011/11/14 19:43:25] <sarkis_> i wasn't running as root
[2011/11/14 19:43:29] <sarkis_> my bad :/
[2011/11/14 19:43:47] <dhogland> sarkis_: ^_^
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[2011/11/14 19:44:07] <dhogland> sarkis_: i take it all is good then?
[2011/11/14 19:44:41] <sarkis_> yes :)
[2011/11/14 19:44:53] <sarkis_> well actually it resolves my system as puppet.amazon......
[2011/11/14 19:45:08] <sarkis_> how do i set that 2nd part? i fixed my /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[2011/11/14 19:45:16] <sarkis_> and i ran hostname -F /etc/hostname
[2011/11/14 19:45:53] <sarkis_> oh i see its in resolv.conf.. whats the danger in changing this?
[2011/11/14 19:46:12] <sarkis_> i have a puppet A record
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[2011/11/14 19:46:36] <dhogland> the cert is what really matters, and what it was generated as... that's what you're seeing in the puppet master's cert list
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[2011/11/14 19:50:13] <sarkis_> hmm
[2011/11/14 19:50:25] <sarkis_> ya so the cert was generated but im wondering if i should change up my resolv.conf
[2011/11/14 19:50:49] <dhogland> so if you really wanna change this behavior, on your puppet agent side, blow away the current ssl dir on that agent system, change cert name in puppet.conf, use puppet cert clean 'certname' to clean up the old named cert... then run the puppet agent again and it should send the new cert to the master
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[2011/11/14 19:51:09] <sarkis_> i see
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[2011/11/14 20:36:41] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Puppet_Windows (#58) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Puppet_Windows?version=58 (by Josh Cooper)
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[2011/11/14 22:00:09] <zabyl> is there somebody who can change the err output in puppet 2.7.1
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[2011/11/14 22:02:16] <zabyl> would it be nice instead of Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: hostname was not match with the server certificate or err: Could not call revoke: Cannot convert into OpenSSL::BN
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[2011/11/14 22:04:04] <zabyl> add some kind of GUIDs that can be used in a search for solutions for puppet 'certificates' issues
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