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| [2011/12/03 00:40:41] <hardcore> hi! someone knows how i can use http://docs.puppetlabs.com/ on my own website? i don't mean the puppet wiki. i mean the software and the look & feel from this nice looking docupages :) | ||
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| [2011/12/03 02:13:32] <jedi4ever> anyone around who runs rspec-puppet ? | ||
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| [2011/12/03 02:43:15] <joe-mac> hardcore: should all be in github | ||
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| [2011/12/03 02:44:39] <hardcore> joe-mac: all files with .html files etc.? | ||
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| [2011/12/03 02:46:50] <joe-mac> idk, have a look | ||
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| [2011/12/03 02:56:22] <hardcore> idk? | ||
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| [2011/12/03 03:33:18] <joe-mac> idk = I don't know | ||
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| [2011/12/03 05:29:53] <d3c> if I add a class to a run stage, will any classes that it includes also be added to that stage? or should I specify the run stage for each include as well? | ||
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| [2011/12/03 06:13:07] <mm_> hi all, i've some questions about mcollective | ||
| [2011/12/03 06:14:48] <mm_> has mcollective webserverivce, web api, libvirt, jmx or jms support? | ||
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| [2011/12/03 06:56:57] <zaarg> there is an mcollective libvirt agent | ||
| [2011/12/03 06:57:43] <zaarg> no sure what you mean by 'webapi'...and i don't think there is a fully fledged jmx/jms agent but you could knock something up to do a few things easily | ||
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| [2011/12/03 07:12:19] <Moe__> im having a little trouble installing puppet on rhel 6 | ||
| [2011/12/03 07:12:45] <Moe__> the repos dont seem to have all of the dependencies available | ||
| [2011/12/03 07:13:39] <Dominic> Moe__: you probably need to add the RHEL 6 Optional repo to your server's channels in RHN as some Ruby libs live there. | ||
| [2011/12/03 07:14:13] <Moe__> I will give that a try thanks | ||
| [2011/12/03 07:14:16] <Dominic> (libselinux-ruby springs to mind) | ||
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| [2011/12/03 07:21:48] <faffasdf> wtf is this | ||
| [2011/12/03 07:23:37] <faffasdf> hmm sys admin linux sw? | ||
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| [2011/12/03 08:29:56] <yeled> does anyone run the concat module on 0.24.9 ? | ||
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| [2011/12/03 08:31:32] <yeled> Class concat::setup has not been evaluated so its variables cannot be referenced | ||
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| [2011/12/03 08:39:32] <yeled> aha | ||
| [2011/12/03 08:40:38] <yeled> i have to do the setup | ||
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| [2011/12/03 12:59:28] <anrxc> i am spamming the whole company with those connection timeout reports | ||
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| [2011/12/03 15:40:20] <ryancoleman> anrxc: All of Puppets log level create an implicit tag. You could redirect one of those log levels to a particular email address, yes. http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/stable/report.html#tagmail | ||
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| [2011/12/03 15:41:33] <ryancoleman> anrxc: After that, if you're using the built-in webserver, I strongly suggest you start looking into Passenger to scale your PM. http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/passenger.html | ||
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| [2011/12/03 15:42:32] <anrxc> using mongrel with nginx now | ||
| [2011/12/03 15:42:39] <anrxc> thanks i'll check the log level thing | ||
| [2011/12/03 15:42:53] <anrxc> i have 50 servers to 5 mongrel backends | ||
| [2011/12/03 15:43:00] <anrxc> with rung time 5min and splay time 4 min | ||
| [2011/12/03 15:43:06] <anrxc> run time* | ||
| [2011/12/03 15:44:03] <anrxc> i don't even mind those failed runs, but they create spam and confusion with others in my team | ||
| [2011/12/03 15:44:39] <ryancoleman> anrxc: hmm. you may want to inquire about that on the users list.. mongrel should do much better than that. If not, passenger is how Puppet Labs scales PM and works quite well. | ||
| [2011/12/03 15:45:00] <ryancoleman> Totally understood. Hopefully breaking off whatever log level those failed run reports fall under will cut down the noise. | ||
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| [2011/12/03 15:51:27] <anrxc> ah unfortunately broken manifest, ie. missing } is also loglevel err :) | ||
| [2011/12/03 15:51:42] <anrxc> if I send err to my self, whoever breaks a manifest won't know | ||
| [2011/12/03 15:51:47] <anrxc> thanks for the help | ||
| [2011/12/03 15:51:52] <anrxc> i'll just bump more backends for now | ||
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| [2011/12/03 16:07:28] <ashp> mysql2's gem sucks :/ | ||
| [2011/12/03 16:07:39] <ashp> it cannot find mysql.h no matter what, despite the fact it's just in /usr/include/mysql | ||
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| [2011/12/03 16:13:14] * mogitux souhaite une bonne nuit à toutes les IRCiennes et tous les IRCiens | ||
| [2011/12/03 16:13:37] * mogitux is away: ZZzzz... | ||
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| [2011/12/03 16:32:36] <anrxc> we recently had the gem failed to build on x86_64 due to fpic | ||
| [2011/12/03 16:32:51] <anrxc> didn't realize what's going on until reading the build log | ||
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| [2011/12/03 16:43:36] <ashp> It was worse than that, I'm just a moron and didn't have gcc installed! | ||
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| [2011/12/03 17:05:27] <anrxc> :) | ||
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| [2011/12/03 17:42:49] <ashp> oh my god i cannot get passenger to work at all tonight, i shouldn't work on weekends | ||
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| [2011/12/03 20:09:06] <rtyler> is it possible to collect exported resources and such when using puppet for standalone mode? | ||
| [2011/12/03 20:09:15] <rtyler> `Nagios_service <<||>>` this kind of jazz? | ||
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| [2011/12/03 20:25:36] <rtyler> whack: have you blogged about how you use masterless + storeconfigs for exported resources? | ||
| [2011/12/03 20:25:43] <rtyler> there's a brief mention of it in your Puppet at Loggly talk | ||
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| [2011/12/03 20:56:36] <whack> rtyler: most of what I have published is in slide form, with pretty good details I think | ||
| [2011/12/03 20:56:51] <whack> http://semicomplete.com/presentations/puppet-at-loggly/puppet-at-loggly.pdf.html | ||
| [2011/12/03 20:57:00] <whack> rtyler: lemme see what else I can find. | ||
| [2011/12/03 20:57:19] <rtyler> whack: I was already looking at that :) | ||
| [2011/12/03 20:57:30] <whack> rtyler: http://www.semicomplete.com/blog/tags/puppet has at least one post on nodeless | ||
| [2011/12/03 20:57:31] <rtyler> this is for the Jenkins project infrastructure | ||
| [2011/12/03 20:57:48] <rtyler> so I'm not sure if exported resources pushing into some mysql DB somewhere will work anyways :( | ||
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| [2011/12/03 20:57:57] <whack> and this has a masterless example: https://github.com/jordansissel/puppet-examples/ | ||
| [2011/12/03 20:58:00] <rtyler> (we're already running lots of nodeless stuff) | ||
| [2011/12/03 20:58:07] <rtyler> er, master-less | ||
| [2011/12/03 20:58:20] <whack> rtyler: exported resources works in masterless, though there's some bugs I don't know if they are fixed | ||
| [2011/12/03 20:59:03] <rtyler> I saw some of the stuff you posted a year ago in trac | ||
| [2011/12/03 20:59:33] <rtyler> right now all nodes cron a `git pull --rebase && puppet manifests/`hostname -s`.pp` | ||
| [2011/12/03 20:59:41] <rtyler> so I'm not sure where the exporting would happen for us | ||
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| [2011/12/03 21:02:11] <whack> rtyler: exported resources still wokr the same way | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:02:20] <whack> in 'masterless' the "master" is the node itself | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:02:36] <rtyler> so every node will need to access the DB in that case | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:02:40] <whack> right | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:02:44] <rtyler> we're in 3 datacenters right now | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:02:55] <rtyler> how ya figure we can pull that off :P | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:03:15] <whack> well, there's not tooo much data to go between | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:03:27] <whack> best recommendation is to pick a datacenter, make it the master, replicate it for safety | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:03:30] <whack> the master db, that is. | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:03:49] <whack> you could probably do multimaster since each node only writes information about itself | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:04:08] <rtyler> I kind of wish storeconfigs had a file backend, that would be a little easier to secure and rsync | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:04:25] <whack> yeah, you could use sqlite as your local db, but that's hard to sync up | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:04:53] <whack> multimaster is probably a safe bet there, everyone writes locally, though I don't know really if puppet uses transactions so there's likely race conditions :( | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:05:00] <rtyler> the only use I have for exported resources thus far is nagios checks | ||
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| [2011/12/03 21:05:09] <rtyler> so maybe i'll just go the "stupid route" and not export resources | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:05:13] <whack> hah | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:05:18] <rtyler> this is only for 5 machines right now | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:05:32] <whack> well, there's other options too. Exported resources are essentially an "append-only messaging system" in my words | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:05:34] <rtyler> and I look forward to our infra scaling such that I can regret a decision like this :) | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:05:52] <whack> rtyler: indeed! | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:06:42] <whack> you might be able to find other solutions, but depending on how frequently you need to run puppet and how many nodes/resources you have | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:07:24] <rtyler> each node pulls from git every 30 minutes, but we have changes maybe once every couple weeks :P | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:07:33] <rtyler> still moving everything into puppet from ye olde stupid route | ||
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| [2011/12/03 21:22:42] <whack> rtyler: nod, slow work converting things | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:23:03] <rtyler> especially when you realize the main host is so fakking old that Ubuntu LTS doesn't even support it anymore | ||
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| [2011/12/03 21:24:31] <rtyler> Confluence, JIRA, Nexus, etc | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:24:37] <rtyler> a whole world of PITA services | ||
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| [2011/12/03 21:25:36] <whack> indeed. Given the choice I always picked jira studio since hosted means I didn't have to deal with the terrible administrative experiences of such 'enterprise' software | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:26:09] <rtyler> we use hosted JIRA at Lookout, the main problems are speed and visibility when shit breaks | ||
| [2011/12/03 21:26:24] <rtyler> thus my apprehension of using it for Jenkins, since we probably put a LOT more traffic through JIRA | ||
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