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| [2011/12/09 00:02:03] <emdub> also that error message is referenced in this: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/6907 | ||
| [2011/12/09 00:02:05] <emdub> might be useful | ||
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| [2011/12/09 00:13:30] <Dominic> movexig: might be worth checking that all of: /sbin/start, stop, restart, status and initctl exist, are executable etc. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 00:14:07] <movexig> Dominic, all those exist and work. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 00:14:11] <movexig> As I said, I can star tthe job manually. | ||
| [2011/12/09 00:14:16] <movexig> emdub, I'll read that ticket, hold on | ||
| [2011/12/09 00:14:38] <movexig> Unfortunately I don't really speak Ruby, so reading the code is somewhat of an exercise in futility. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 00:14:57] <movexig> Okay, I don't think that ticket is relevant, since upstart was already installed before puppet was. | ||
| [2011/12/09 00:15:17] <movexig> The odd thing is not only does upstart work on this host, but puppet is perfectly capable of running upstart on a different, almost identical host I have here. | ||
| [2011/12/09 00:18:24] <emdub> sorry, i don't have any answers, never experienced that myself and i don't use puppet to manage upstart | ||
| [2011/12/09 00:18:37] <movexig> It's really just this one custom service I need to have running. | ||
| [2011/12/09 00:18:50] <movexig> And I don't want to write an init.d script for it when the upstart job is so much simpler. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 00:19:39] <movexig> Is there any way I can figure out what exactly it's having troubles with? | ||
| [2011/12/09 00:19:46] <movexig> As in, exactly what dependency it feels is missing? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 00:25:24] <emdub> well if you look in /lib/puppet/provider/service/upstart.rb you can see what commands it's using behind the scenes, but i don't really know the best way to debug the problem you're having if you aren't able to dig therough the code | ||
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| [2011/12/09 00:27:34] <movexig> Well, as I said, all of those commands exist, are executable, and I can run them manually and they do exactly what they are supposed to when I do. | ||
| [2011/12/09 00:28:09] <movexig> This is a pretty basic Ubuntu oneiric machine, so I don't know how upstart could be broken, and as far as I can tell, upstart _isn't_ broken. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 01:09:09] <movexig> How do I make puppet do an update run right now if the agent daemon is already running? | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:09:57] <movexig> SIGUSR1? | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:10:39] <codec> movexig: yep | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:10:47] <movexig> Cool. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 01:11:32] <movexig> Am I supposed to find log files in /var/log/puppet, or do I have to change something from the default configuration? | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:12:19] <codec> depends on your setup, my puppet-agent logs go to /var/log/syslog (ubuntu) | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:13:40] <movexig> Ah, indeed they do. Thanks. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 01:18:37] <movexig> All right, so that part works now -- but it still refuses to run upstart jobs. :/ | ||
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| [2011/12/09 01:21:04] <movexig> Anyone else have any ideas why puppet would complain that "upstart is not functional on this host" when upstart is confirmed to work when run maunally on that host? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 01:28:28] <shaunster> Is it possible to store the output from shell command in a puppet variable? If so how would I express $masterdbip = `host db1` correctly in puppet? | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:29:34] <misc> with facter | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:32:47] <movexig> I can't even follow the code in upstart.rb or in type.rb... | ||
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| [2011/12/09 01:35:47] <shaunster> misc: Could you expand a little on how facter could be used? I thought it could only be used to derive information about an agent. TIA | ||
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| [2011/12/09 01:36:32] <misc> shaunster: in fact, I think I misunderstood, what you want is a function I guess | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:38:31] <deni> hi again.. | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:38:56] <deni> can anyone tell me the difference between the namespaceauth.conf file and the auth.conf file? do i need both? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 01:41:55] <misc> shaunster: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/custom_functions.html | ||
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| [2011/12/09 01:43:40] <movexig> Is there anywhere else I can ask questions about puppet? | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:43:45] <movexig> I mean, aside from like, stackoverflow... | ||
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| [2011/12/09 01:45:07] <Spads> movexig: puppet-users list | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:45:17] <movexig> How fast is the turnaround there? | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:45:40] * Spads isn't sure how he's meant to answer that | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:45:42] <Volcane> as fast as you can expect when relying on the kindness of others to donate their free time to you. | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:45:53] <Spads> it's a mailing list full of puppet users and a few developers | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:46:24] <Spads> usually the users will help you as much as they can in their spare time, and occasionally the developers will swoop in and ask pointed questions and request that you file bugs | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:46:25] <movexig> Right. I'm not meaning to sound demanding. I mean, I know I'm at the mercy of the kindness of strangers who have no reason to help me. | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:46:40] <movexig> I'm unfortunately also under a deadline, heh. | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:46:43] <Spads> but it has the advantage that your request doesn't scroll up in five minutes | ||
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| [2011/12/09 01:49:47] <movexig> I guess I'll keep asking in here at regular intervals. I hope that's not too uncouth. | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:51:02] <Volcane> pretty sure asking the same thing over and over here will not put you in anyones good books | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:53:51] <movexig> Well, I'm kind of low on options. And new people do show up in here as the day progresses, I mean? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 01:54:16] <movexig> If no one knows right now, maybe someone who does know will show up in four hours' time. | ||
| [2011/12/09 01:59:11] <zykes-> it's weird, my puppetmaster is using /etc/puppet/ssl for ssl but config says /var/lib/puppet/ssl ? http://pastebin.com/imPdJhpu | ||
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| [2011/12/09 02:22:50] <mfridh> zykes-: unknown paste id | ||
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| [2011/12/09 02:30:47] <zykes-> http://pastebin.com/CnJr8dNJ mfridh | ||
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| [2011/12/09 02:31:45] <mfridh> what does --genconfig show? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 02:34:44] <zykes-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/764776/ | ||
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| [2011/12/09 02:56:03] <movexig> Well I can at least confirm that the problem is that the upstart provider doesn't think it's running on an ubuntu system | ||
| [2011/12/09 02:56:07] <movexig> But I can't explain why. | ||
| [2011/12/09 02:59:21] <movexig> Nor what it thinks is right. | ||
| [2011/12/09 02:59:49] <movexig> facter does report that operatingsystem = Ubuntu, though | ||
| [2011/12/09 02:59:50] <Volcane> movexig: did you pastie a ls -l showing all the commands in the provider? as well as any --debug --trace output? | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:00:27] <movexig> Volcane, I haven't pasted --debug output, but yes, everything required for upstart to work is present (and I can start/stop/restart/status/initctl the job manually). | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:00:38] <Volcane> movexig: paste it | ||
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| [2011/12/09 03:00:43] <movexig> Sure thing, hold on | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:00:53] <movexig> Though as I said, commenting out confine :operatingsystem etc. it does run. | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:00:59] <Volcane> ah | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:01:02] <Volcane> missed that | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:01:59] <movexig> Gah, I got something to attend do | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:02:00] <movexig> AFK | ||
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| [2011/12/09 03:04:01] <ranulf> is there way with puppet to deliver a file depending on coditions on the master? for example, if file foo exists on the puppet master, then it should be delivered to the client. otherwise puppet should skip | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:04:10] <ranulf> this would lead to some kind of self-generating manifests, i guess | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:06:25] <artkrz> hey guys, I've wrote this thing about scaling puppet dashboard http://www.krzywanski.net/archives/876 am I reinventing the wheel ? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 03:07:29] <zykes-> mfridh: ? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 03:15:43] <nevyn> ranulf: a generator can do that i think | ||
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| [2011/12/09 03:17:05] <nevyn> ok | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:17:14] <erthad> artkrz: isn't delayedjobs introduced in 1.2.0 intended for that? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 03:17:36] <nevyn> call generate to a small shell program that returns the resource definition if the file exists and nothing if it doesn't | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:18:27] <artkrz> erthad: explain pls | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:18:38] <Imran-UK> puppet 0.25.5, is there an easy way i can check what modules/recipies relate to a puppet other than manual checking of the config? | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:19:40] <robinbowes> Imran-UK: check out some of Volcane's scripts | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:20:02] <erthad> artkrz: AFAIK the dashboards slow code is now done in background by jobworkers and the reports should be accepted much quicker than before | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:20:31] <artkrz> erthad: they are but tasks pile up and don't process fast enough before next batch arrives | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:20:51] <Imran-UK> robinbowes, ok thanks - where can i find them? link etc? | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:20:55] <artkrz> the post is based on setup of around 500 nodes reporting evry 5-10 minutes | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:21:16] <crs> Hi there. I am seeing an error: Failed to generate additional resources using 'eval_generate: odd number of arguments for Hash... Nothing has changed regarding manifests that errored here. What does it mean? | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:21:45] <artkrz> erthad: i had dashboard running on 4 core cpu with 4 jobs and it couldn't handle it, the pending task counter was just going up and up | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:21:46] <erthad> artkrz: you can have a single dashboard instance and several jobworkers (on different hosts possibly) for processing of stored reports | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:22:19] <erthad> I haven't tried that though under heavy load so I could be wrong | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:22:21] <artkrz> yeah, that's it what the post is about, but if you have couple of nodes why just not use them to run server process as well | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:22:57] <erthad> jobworkers do not need dashboard running on the same host with them | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:22:59] <robinbowes> Imran-UK: http://devco.net | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:23:06] <robinbowes> In particular: | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:23:10] <robinbowes> http://www.devco.net/code/parselocalconfig.rb | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:23:19] <robinbowes> http://www.devco.net/archives/2010/02/26/what_does_puppet_manage_on_a_node-2.php | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:23:20] <artkrz> erthad: i know, the do need shared spool/ | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:23:43] <artkrz> otherwise jobs fail as they can't find yaml file | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:23:53] <artkrz> not always but failure rate is high | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:24:00] <erthad> artkrz: you are right then, I didn't know about that | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:24:55] <artkrz> so yes, there's no need to run dashboard on every node but i think it helps in terms of webrick handling reports comming in | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:25:07] <Volcane> the answer is dont use webrick | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:25:14] <Spads> poor rick | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:25:26] <artkrz> Volcane: i know, but so far it works | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:25:27] <Spads> "We Brick your puppetmaster" | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:25:38] <Volcane> if u didnt use webrick you wouldnt need to do all this stuff | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:25:53] <Volcane> so thats a pretty interesting value of 'works' :P | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:26:16] <artkrz> Volcane: i'm not sure that i wouldn't need to spread delayed jobs | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:26:51] <artkrz> I had no problems creating reports with webbrick, delayed jobs just couldn;t process them fast enough, so I think changing webserver wouldn't help | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:26:52] <robinbowes> artkrz: why are you using webrick? | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:27:18] <artkrz> robinbowes: default for dashboard, I'm ussing passenger for puppet master | ||
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| [2011/12/09 03:27:44] <erthad> dashboard runs ok with passenger too | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:28:24] <artkrz> erthad: i believe it does however I don't think this will help process reports will it ? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 03:29:20] <Imran-UK> robinbowes, thank you | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:29:54] <Imran-UK> Volcane, i'll have to checkout a devopscafe session next time i'm in london | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:30:13] <artkrz> Volcane: you say i would be able to process all those reports just by using passenger ? I don't think webserver has anything to do with how delayed jobs are processed, am I right ? | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:32:06] <Volcane> artkrz: no if your machine isnt big enough - not enough cores etc - then you're right | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:33:14] <artkrz> Volcane: that's the point, I have 4 nodes each with 4 cores and this processes around 500 reports every 5-10 minutes no problem | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:34:09] <artkrz> and I agree, webbrick sucks but it works so i'll leave it alone for now | ||
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| [2011/12/09 03:45:53] <Imran-UK> parselocalconfig.rb <path to node yaml> does not list anything under classes or resources. the yaml file looks ok. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 03:51:14] <Radex_> hi, how to define include order in node definition? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 03:54:28] <movexig> Hurf, I'm back again. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 03:57:01] <shaunster> I've written function that is suppose to return an IP address of a hostname. It is syntactically valid but it does not return any value. If someone has time please could you loook at http://pastebin.com/knZNLMwq TIA | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:57:34] <movexig> Volcane, if you're still present, here's a log: http://pastebin.com/1eUM1Aiq | ||
| [2011/12/09 03:58:15] <Volcane> shaunster: exec doesnt return anything - it probably wont do what you want though as functions are run on the puppetmaster | ||
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| [2011/12/09 04:00:05] <Volcane> movexig: puppet version? | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:00:10] <movexig> 2.7.1 | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:00:16] <movexig> (-1ubuntu3) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 04:00:48] <Volcane> no idea, gotta try the list | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:01:14] <shaunster> Volcane: Thx for looking. Can you tell me the variables in a template are 'filled in' by the agent or by the puppet master? | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:01:31] <Volcane> shaunster: if they're facts they come from the node | ||
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| [2011/12/09 04:01:56] <Volcane> shaunster: also your function should be type rvalue if you want to return anything | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:02:21] <Volcane> shaunster: and "args[1]" should just be args[1] | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:02:34] <shaunster> thx.... | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:03:34] <Volcane> change the exec to: Puppet::Util.execute("/usr/bin/host", args[1]) and set the rvalue thing | ||
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| [2011/12/09 04:04:03] <Volcane> ie. newfunction(:getip, :type => :rvalue) do |args| | ||
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| [2011/12/09 04:07:04] <movexig> Well, as mention, we know that confine is failing | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:07:19] <movexig> Even though the OS is Ubuntu and even though Facter knows "operatingsystem" is "Ubuntu", it somehow still fails | ||
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| [2011/12/09 04:08:07] <shaunster> Volcane: Many thanks.... | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:10:44] <movexig> Okay, with confine :operatingsystem => :debian, it works. | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:10:52] <movexig> So Puppet seems to think this is a plain Debian system. But why? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 04:12:48] <movexig> http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/7670 It's this bug | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:13:12] <movexig> Or at least, I can reproduce that bug with puppet 2.7.1 | ||
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| [2011/12/09 04:13:37] <Volcane> what does notify{$operatingsystem: } in this nodes node block tell you? | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:13:53] <movexig> Just a sec and I'll check | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:14:49] <movexig> Yeah, it thinks "Debian" | ||
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| [2011/12/09 04:15:33] <movexig> I ran the test case in irb as described in that ticket, and it does indeed forget that this is an Ubuntu system | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:16:57] <Volcane> updte facter then | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:17:36] <movexig> It's the same version on the working and the non-working one though | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:17:50] <movexig> But I'll see about it | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:18:36] <|Majestic|> type: facter operatingsystem | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:18:43] <|Majestic|> at the command prompt and see what it says | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:18:50] <|Majestic|> on both systems. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 04:19:13] <movexig> It says Ubuntu on both systems, but as per the ticket above, it promptly forgets it when used by Puppet | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:19:13] <Volcane> |Majestic|: the bug is that it works once then 2nd time it falls back to debian but only if done in the same running process twice - like when puppet runs as a daemon | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:19:24] <|Majestic|> right. | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:19:34] <movexig> Unfortunately it seems Facter 1.5.9 is the highest available as an Ubuntu package | ||
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| [2011/12/09 04:23:01] <alup> hey is there any version of puppet-module-tool for ruby1.9.x? | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:23:33] <|Majestic|> movexig: you could add http://apt.puppetlabs.com/debian into your sources 1.6.3-1puppetlabs1 | ||
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| [2011/12/09 04:23:47] <|Majestic|> you need to install the key as well ofc else apt will mone ;) | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:24:42] <alup> |Majestic|: thnx I'll try this | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:24:42] <|Majestic|> ofc dont know if it will fix your bug - dont have any ubuntu systems to test with only debian squeeze & centos here. | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:25:26] <d3c> I'm getting 'Skipping device resources because running on a host' - what exactly does this mean? see http://pastebin.com/VViCmLrc | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:25:40] <|Majestic|> This is what I use on "some" hosts: deb http://apt.puppetlabs.com/debian squeeze main | ||
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| [2011/12/09 04:26:03] <|Majestic|> not had time to write a module yet to make sure right ones etc are on each boxies i.e. apt controlled via puppet yet. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 04:26:53] <movexig> |Majestic|, I'm trying it right now, will let you know | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:27:18] <|Majestic|> good luck.. back to writting some more modules here myself. | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:27:32] <movexig> All right, Facter doesn't exhibit the bug with the package from that repository | ||
| [2011/12/09 04:27:35] <movexig> So that's a good sign | ||
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| [2011/12/09 04:30:16] <d3c> the strange thing about those schedule errors is that I haven't defined any schedule resource. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 04:35:47] <|Majestic|> great :) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 04:45:11] <d3c> problem is that I'm getting a non-zero exit code due to 6 skipped resources and I have no clue why it happens since I haven't defined any schedule resources: http://pastebin.com/VViCmLrc | ||
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| [2011/12/09 04:52:34] <d3c> if I add --summarize to puppet, it fails with a non-zero exit code. if I omit it, it returns 0. in both cases though, the 6 resources are skipped (and I don't know why). | ||
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| [2011/12/09 04:58:24] <d3c> 'Skipping device resources because running on a host' keeps popping up, even with an empty manifest (site.pp, that is) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 05:05:30] <tim|mac> hey all, is there a way to run the puppet queue daemon in foreground? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 05:06:11] <tim|mac> ah, simply --no-daemonize | ||
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| [2011/12/09 05:09:21] <tim|mac> anyone know about a know bug in 2.7.6 that caused the puppet queue daemon to give errors like these? "err: Could not save queued catalog for management.kumina.nl: syntax error on line 35, col 43: ` mail_relay: mail.kumina.nl manufacturer: Bochs'" | ||
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| [2011/12/09 05:13:20] <jbraeuer> Volcane: I have a propsal for behavior change of mcollective agent. Is this the right place to discuss it, should I file a ticket or is the puppet-users list the right place? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 05:19:06] <d3c> jbraeuer: #mcollective maybe | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:19:36] <jbraeuer> d3c: that was to obious for me | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:19:37] <jbraeuer> thankt! | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:19:39] <jbraeuer> thanks! | ||
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| [2011/12/09 05:37:01] <deni> freaking puppet | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:37:09] <deni> now it's says success but no file was tranferes | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:37:14] <deni> *transferred | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:37:25] <deni> is there any way to debug this? the log show everything is ok | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:37:41] <deni> i'm using --debug and --trace with the puppetrun command and it's not helping | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:40:44] <walkeran> deni: Any useful log messages when using puppet agent -t with --debug and --trace on the agent? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 05:45:48] <|Majestic|> deni: I personaly use: puppet agent --test --debug when diagniosing whats going on OR puppet agent --test --noop (if I dont want it to do anything buts how me what its going to do - useful to test out that new module you just made). It will show you the cmds etc its trying to run. Run the cmds manualy and see if the result is what your looking for. Had an issue the other night and thanks for --debug showed that the init script was buggy (sta | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:46:09] <|Majestic|> tus) which was messing up some things. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 05:48:37] <deni> walkeran: |Majestic| nothing usefull | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:48:42] <deni> it says it's successfull | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:48:56] <|Majestic|> hum... | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:49:11] <|Majestic|> whats it trying to run before you get that result? | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:49:27] <deni> maybe my class if wrong | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:49:30] <deni> http://pastebin.com/z86a8Zvv | ||
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| [2011/12/09 05:52:14] <walkeran> deni: I guess I'm not familiar with where that location would be (puppet://sado/files/etc/hosts), but I take it the hostname of your puppetmaster/fileserver is sado? | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:53:00] <|Majestic|> deni: only diference your doing is your giving it the hostname (I assume) of the fileserver. If you do like: source => 'puppet:///modules/nagios3/bin/nagios-gtalk.sh', it will take it from the puppetmaster directly without you having to hard encode hostnames etc. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 05:53:34] <|Majestic|> apart from that, dont see anything wrong | ||
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| [2011/12/09 05:54:26] <|Majestic|> only other thing I can say is it maybe the path your using.. | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:54:32] <deni> |Majestic|: sado is the hostname of the puppetmaster yes | ||
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| [2011/12/09 05:54:40] <deni> files is the directory in /etc/puppet/files | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:55:11] <deni> but if the path is wrong why the hell doesn't it say so? i would very much like to see errors flying all over the place | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:55:13] <|Majestic|> usuly you have them in the module your writting - I think you need to go read the structure of puppet. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 05:55:17] <deni> anything but successfull | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:56:08] <walkeran> It would error out if it couldn't find the source. Look in your /var/lib/puppet/classes.txt file on the agent and see if the "hosts" class is getting included in the catalog | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:56:26] <walkeran> Also, what versions of the puppetmaster and agent are you running, and on what OS | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:56:45] <|Majestic|> quick example: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/1/wiki/Advanced_Puppet_Pattern | ||
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| [2011/12/09 05:57:04] <|Majestic|> down the bottom will see a basic structure | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:57:15] <|Majestic|> cant find the link I was looking for though but thats got the basics you need. | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:57:37] <walkeran> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/modules.html | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:58:01] <|Majestic|> thanks walkeran thats the one I was thinking of :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 05:58:12] <walkeran> Yup! :) No problemo | ||
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| [2011/12/09 06:01:42] <|Majestic|> deni: you also can re-write the hosts file using the host stuff in puppet. Bookmark this page.. (adjust url to your puppet master version) http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/2.7.6/type.html | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:01:56] <|Majestic|> Look for host. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 06:02:46] <deni> my files direcotry is in /etc/puppet/files | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:02:47] <henk> hi | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:02:54] <deni> i would like to keep files there regardles of modules | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:03:10] <henk> Can I use extlookup values in templates? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 06:03:23] <deni> i don't want to have to copy files in modules/modulename/files | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:03:27] <|Majestic|> yes henk. I do it on 99% of my modules I write. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 06:03:58] <dcarley> henk: assign a variable in the parent class. | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:04:00] <henk> |Majestic|: Can you give an example or point me to the relevant docs? | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:04:05] <deni> |Majestic|: puppetmaster version 2.6.2 on Debian | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:04:32] <|Majestic|> henk: maybe able to find you soemthing quickly - am a little busy writting some nagios modules atm. | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:04:33] <henk> dcarley: parent class? You mean in the manifest using the templete? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 06:05:26] <dcarley> henk: is it a file{} resource that's defined in a class? | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:06:18] <henk> dcarley: Yes, and I think I know what you mean: in the manifest do foo=extlookup(bar) and simply use this variable in the template, right? | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:06:29] <dcarley> henk: yep | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:06:54] <henk> |Majestic|: Thank you, I got it :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:06:58] <|Majestic|> henk: cant find a good example on web but give me a min and ile put up one simple one I wrote (first one I did to start with) | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:07:05] <|Majestic|> ahh ok henk, I wont now then :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:07:05] <henk> dcarley: Thank you too :) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 06:09:46] <deni> |Majestic|: my manifest/init.pp file looks like this: http://pastebin.com/uVbJzeJP | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:09:57] <deni> i include the hosts.pp file that i showed you earlier | ||
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| [2011/12/09 06:10:09] <deni> don's see anything wrong with that | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:10:13] <|Majestic|> one sec - doings oemthingf or ya ;) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 06:22:00] <|Majestic|> done | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:22:01] <|Majestic|> http://pastebin.com/p7azBACb | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:22:26] <|Majestic|> extlookup resolv example I wrote as one of first modules on my own when messing with extlookup stuff. http://pastebin.com/p7azBACb | ||
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| [2011/12/09 06:23:15] <|Majestic|> do bewarened if you dont have the extlookup info it will fail/bork. Just going to update mine so it wont and place the change if your intrested but as I said - this was first one I wrote. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 06:27:04] <|Majestic|> and the change is: http://pastebin.com/ET8nNLk8 if your intrested. Have fun. Now back to nagios module writting - oh what fun LOL. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 06:32:39] <sppadic> afternoon all | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:32:53] * walkeran wishes it was afternoon... | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:32:55] <sppadic> wondering if could ask a quick query as regards best options for scaling puppet for about 100 node setup | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:32:58] <sppadic> hey walkeran | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:33:06] <walkeran> Hey :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:33:07] <sppadic> been reading a bit on the puppetlabs and seems mongrel is the way forward? | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:33:16] <sppadic> trying to setup on RHEL 6 | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:33:17] <walkeran> Mongrel or passenger. I personally use passenger | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:33:33] <sppadic> walkeran, hey yeah was trying to install mongrel adn seem to be in dependency hell | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:33:40] <sppadic> with the version mismatches of rubygems | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:33:53] <sppadic> oo passenger - mod_rails isnt it? | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:34:10] <walkeran> Ah, I see. Yeah, I've never actually even tried going the mongrel route. Yeah, passenger = mod_rails/mod_rack/etc | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:34:27] <sppadic> am hoping setup is easier -well atleast installation was. :-) | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:34:29] <|Majestic|> personaly use passenger also. was very easy to setup. | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:34:30] <walkeran> It's a gem that you can install, but you can also snag RPMs for it, I think | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:34:36] <sppadic> ahh kewl | ||
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| [2011/12/09 06:38:27] <sppadic> ooh crap - just remembered am gonna be running a wiki off the same server as the puppetmaster as well | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:38:32] <sppadic> wondering if the apache can handle all that? | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:38:43] <beaknit> good morning - anyone know a good resource for calling a class from within another class? | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:39:03] <beaknit> I want to use the -> notation, if possible | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:39:29] <chjohnst> sppadic I dont see why not | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:39:31] <chjohnst> most of the load will be on the puppetmaster itself | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:39:39] <beaknit> So in class 1's init: Class['class1:config'] -> Class['class2'] | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:40:05] <sppadic> chjohnst, yeah think am going for it | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:40:24] <chjohnst> go for it :-) | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:40:44] <chjohnst> beaknit: you can use require to setup the dependency | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:41:04] <beaknit> I tried that, but it executes out of order | ||
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| [2011/12/09 06:41:20] <beaknit> So - within class2, I have a Require => Class1 | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:41:36] <chjohnst> so you want class2 to require class1 to be satisified? | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:41:42] <beaknit> But in the logs, I can clearly see that Class2 loads first | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:41:44] <beaknit> Yep | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:41:53] <beaknit> Perhaps the require is in the wrong spot? | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:42:03] <chjohnst> can you pastie the class? | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:42:11] <beaknit> One sec | ||
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| [2011/12/09 06:45:03] <beaknit> There's a lot of crap that would clutter this up | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:45:08] <beaknit> So I'll just summarize | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:45:26] <beaknit> In sites.pp, my guy says "Use Class1" | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:45:39] <beaknit> Inside Class1, he says "include Class2" | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:45:52] <beaknit> Inside Class2, he says "Require Class1" | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:45:59] <Volcane> unfortunately telling us what you think the code says doesnt help | ||
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| [2011/12/09 06:46:06] <beaknit> lol | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:46:08] @ Quit: sppadic: Quit: Leaving | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:46:08] <beaknit> true | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:46:12] <jokajak> I have a question about mixing puppet and facter variables. is it possible to do something like $network_$someInterfaceVariable and get the result of $network_eth1 if $someInterfaceVariable is eth1 ? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 06:47:02] <beaknit> I think what needs to happen is that I need to just specify Class2 in sites.pp, and then its require of Class1 will trigger Class1's install | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:47:20] <Volcane> generally doing any including of things in site.pp is a terrible idea | ||
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| [2011/12/09 06:47:24] <beaknit> Let me try that before I junk up the chat | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:47:29] <sppadic> walkeran, ping | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:47:30] <beaknit> Not an include | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:47:45] <beaknit> If it doesn't work, I'll make things readable and post it here | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:47:46] <sppadic> sorry to bother but wondering if you had any issues with installing puppet-server on RHEL 6 | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:47:50] <pabelanger> Any suggesting on using timeout for an exec command, that I don't know how long it will take? | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:47:52] <Volcane> fine, generally doing anything in site.pp is a bad idea :P | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:47:58] <pabelanger> suggestions* | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:48:39] <jokajak> sppadic: we use puppetmaster on RHEL6 | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:48:50] <beaknit> good to know :-) | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:49:04] <jokajak> sppadic: we built it ourselves from the RPM and installed it | ||
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| [2011/12/09 06:49:39] <chjohnst> sppadic I think they are on the puppet downloads page or you can use the src rpm to rebuild em | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:49:45] <sppadic> jokajak, | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:49:55] <sppadic> chjohnst, thanks chaps | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:50:01] <sppadic> yeah was trying to do it via yum | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:50:07] <sppadic> seems like pain because of mismatches | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:50:27] <sppadic> i managed to get puppet installed by forcing an --nodeps on the selinux library | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:50:46] <chjohnst> http://downloads.puppetlabs.com/ | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:50:49] <jokajak> that seems bad | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:50:55] <sppadic> yeah jokajak - :-( | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:51:00] <sppadic> chjohnst, going there now | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:51:36] <Volcane> hmm, libselinux-ruby-2.0.94-5.el6.x86_64 seemed to have satisfied it for me on rhel6 | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:52:31] <sppadic> Volcane - oh did it | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:52:38] <sppadic> hmm did u have to include the optional channel? | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:52:49] <sppadic> i just put in the repo called rhel-optional | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:53:05] <Volcane> well, when i say rhel6 i mean centos6 i dont know where they got it from - but yes it does ring a bell that it comes from some optional channel | ||
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| [2011/12/09 06:53:35] <sppadic> ahh hehe | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:53:37] <sppadic> ok cheers | ||
| [2011/12/09 06:54:48] <Volcane> is defo in rhel6 somewhere though - there's a bug fix against it on redhat site http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2011-0751.html | ||
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| [2011/12/09 06:55:51] <sppadic> thanks Volcane | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:08:33] <deni> |Majestic|: thank you, i'm looking through it right now | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:08:46] <|Majestic|> np deni | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:10:29] <|Majestic|> theres an accdently extra hash on one of the class lines - just remove it :) teaches me to copy n paste from console to browser lol. svn here is private so cant unforntly share it that way. I guess I could of added to a public git repo but meh :) you should be able to quickly rebuild else pop me a quick msg. | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:11:25] <|Majestic|> right back to nagios - one long module im writting | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:11:33] <|Majestic|> yawns | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:17:43] <rosco> "gem install puppet" does not add a puppet user in rhel6. Is it normal ? Should I add it myself ? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:18:08] <Volcane> dont use gem to install puppet. | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:18:24] <Volcane> gem is not a package format for generic applications - as you've discovered | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:37:02] <mayak> Hello. I am trying to delete a file with puppet. Unfortunately it does not work. Am I using the correct commands? ---> file { "somefile": ensure => absent, path => "/etc/somefile"; "}. I also added the "force => true" but it did not help. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:40:08] <walkeran> mayak: The idea is correct... the syntax is a little goofy, as you have a stray double-quote towards the end. Other than that, it looks sane | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:41:22] <walkeran> mayak: Are you getting any errors or anything? | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:41:26] <mayak> walkeran: alrighty, thank you. I use this semicolon if I define mulltiple files in one resource, is that wrong? | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:41:44] <walkeran> No. That semi-colon is fine. The double-quote isn't | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:42:30] <mayak> walkeran: no, I do not get any error messages. aha, sorry. now I know which double quote you mean. thank you. hang on. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:44:23] <mayak> walkeran: http://pastie.org/2991661 | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:45:01] <walkeran> mayak: Your path parameters are a little funky, too. You have closing brackets, but no opening brackets | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:45:30] <walkeran> mayak: Also, they don't need to be inside a string, if you are just using variables as the parameters | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:45:36] <mayak> walkeran: that's maybe the reason :D | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:45:45] <walkeran> Just use --> path => $mlocate::params::mlocate_lib; | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:46:17] <mayak> walkeran: I guess you just solved my problem. hang on. i'll test it right away. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:46:43] <Diranged> ok im confused | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:47:00] <Diranged> i just booted a new instance up and when it tried to hit my puppet server, it says "Could not retrieve local facts: Connection refused - connect(2)"... | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:47:17] <Diranged> my puppet server is up and running just fine.. and the host in question can connect to the puppet server on port 8140 just fine.. | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:47:58] <walkeran> Diranged: Sounds like there's a fact that tries to make a network connection (ec2, maybe?)... which is failing | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:48:09] <Diranged> hrmm | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:48:18] <Diranged> i have a few facts that do that kind of thing.. but they all exit quietly.. | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:48:21] <Diranged> and have worked fine up until today | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:48:36] <walkeran> Diranged: interesting. I assume you've tried doing a `facter -p` on that server? | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:48:39] <mayak> walkeran: cheers mate, you just solved my problem. I forgot this stupid opening bracket :D | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:48:42] <Diranged> yeah | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:48:43] <mayak> much appreciated! | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:48:45] <Diranged> facter -p works fine | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:48:47] <walkeran> mayak: Perfect :) No problem | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:49:24] <walkeran> Diranged: Oy... I'm already out of ideas, then :/ | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:49:24] <Diranged> but your right | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:49:33] <Diranged> if i remove the facts.. then rerun it, it pulls the facts back down and then fails | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:49:39] <Diranged> something must have changed in 2.7.8.. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:49:50] <mayak> walkeran: works like a charm. lovely | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:52:01] <mayak> walkeran: regarding the variable, should I use $module::params::variable instead of ${module::params::variable}? is there a good reason why? | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:52:42] <walkeran> mayak: I would suggest doing that, yeah. If you just use the variable by itself instead of between quotes, it won't be treated as a string, and won't have to do the extra evaluation | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:52:53] <walkeran> mayak: Definitely not a very big thing, but it's best practice | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:53:01] <Diranged> walkeran: http://pastie.org/2991699 | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:53:15] <Diranged> i basically have 2 of these.. one for cloudstack, and one for amazon.. | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:53:57] <Diranged> im not a great ruby programmer.. any idea what i need to do to get the fact to "fail silently"? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:54:41] <walkeran> Diranged: Heh :) I have nooooo idea. I'm not much of a Ruby guy myself... I usually take the cheap way out and refer to our dev team | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:55:58] <illsci> Can I get some help with ordering please... I don't understand why I'm seeing the behavior I'm seeing | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:56:18] <illsci> I have a server that comes up and includes the cvlamp module and inside that module I have Class["cvlamp::install"] -> Class["cvlamp::config"] -> Class["newrelic_php5"] -> Class["newrelic_sysmond"] | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:56:32] <illsci> I'm seeing cvlamp::install run and then newrelic_sysmond run | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:56:55] <illsci> which fails because cvlamp::config and newrelic_php5 module need to run first | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:57:27] <illsci> how would that be happening.... There are no other ordering statements in the models themselves other than in the init.pp's of those modules | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:58:12] <illsci> In the newrelic_php5 module I have Class["newrelic_php5::params"] -> Class["newrelic_php5::install"] -> Class["newrelic_php5::config"] ~> Class["newrelic_php5::service"] | ||
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| [2011/12/09 07:59:10] <illsci> I don't understand why it's not running cvlamp::install then cvlamp::config and then doing the newrelic_php5 class which has its ordering inside it's init.pp and then newrelic_sysmond which has it's own ordering inside its module | ||
| [2011/12/09 07:59:23] <mayak> walkeran: sorry, once again: which one would be best practise: http://pastie.org/2991661 - the first, right? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 08:00:16] <|Majestic|> mayak: yea the first one :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:00:29] <mayak> Majestic: okay, cheers mate! | ||
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| [2011/12/09 08:00:33] <|Majestic|> np | ||
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| [2011/12/09 08:03:38] <Diranged> walkeran: solved it… since puppet now comes with the ec2.rb fact, i just ripped that one off | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:04:04] <walkeran> Diranged: Ahha, it was that ec2 fact, eh? I've seen that cause trouble for a couple people | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:04:05] <Diranged> for what its worth, heres the working module: http://pastie.org/2991752 | ||
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| [2011/12/09 08:04:23] <Diranged> well, it was my own modified version that supported Cloudstack as well as EC2.. | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:04:39] <walkeran> Oh, right... sorry, I'm doing too many things right now :D | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:05:49] <Diranged> god it still never ceases to amaze me when i boot up a fresh host and it gets puppet-ized, and all my shit is there.. i really never get over that | ||
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| [2011/12/09 08:19:42] <deni> okay i'm losing my mind now | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:19:58] <deni> everything seems to work just fine.....but the file is not created on the client | ||
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| [2011/12/09 08:21:28] <deni> does anyone have any idea how to increase the log output | ||
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| [2011/12/09 08:21:36] <deni> --debug and --trace give me nothing | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:21:45] <deni> well nothing usefull | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:22:32] <illsci> I'm looking at the graph output of puppet and I don't see any relationship between my cvlamp module and the modules included in it.... | ||
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| [2011/12/09 08:22:50] <illsci> Do you have to include the subclasses and enforce relationships at that level | ||
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| [2011/12/09 08:24:05] <illsci> ie you can't do what I'm doing like Class["someclass::somesubclass"] -> Class["somemodule"] -> Class["someclass::somesubclass"] and have it decend into Class["somemodule"] | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:24:25] <illsci> and have it do that ordering prior to the the ending Class["someclass::somesubclass"] | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:24:27] <illsci> ? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 08:31:57] <the_ramink> illsci: basically thtat's correct. You'd need to point to Class['newrelic_php5::service'] rather than Class['newrelic_php5'] | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:32:20] <illsci> man that sucks.... | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:32:37] <illsci> So Is there any point in defining order in my newrelic_php5 class at all? | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:32:49] <the_ramink> illsci: there's been some work on creating an anchor type in the puppet stlib,. | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:33:02] <the_ramink> illsci: sure elese the ordering within that module will be broken | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:33:16] <the_ramink> illsci: the problem is the Class['foo | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:33:23] <illsci> If it's not respected inside the main cvlamp module there really is no point in even having it in another module... | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:33:39] <illsci> So basically if you do inter module relationships | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:33:58] <illsci> You can't define the order unless you include all the subclasses in that main module and set the order in one big chain | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:33:59] <illsci> ? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 08:35:47] <the_ramink> no you just have to realize that everything is working, but that there is not an automatic chain for everythign withing a class. class['newrelic_php5'] is getting run, but not the sub claasses because they are not part of the order. | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:36:28] <the_ramink> so if you set it to ::service it'll work as expected because that's the last link in the chain inside that module | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:36:57] <illsci> Oh hmm | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:37:05] <illsci> the_ramink: you are the fuckin man | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:37:08] <illsci> let me test that | ||
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| [2011/12/09 08:37:27] <astrostl> unable to get %h working a la http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/file_serving.html | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:38:43] <astrostl> pastebin: http://pastebin.com/LYhnuVWx (includes relevant fileserver.conf, manifest, and output stubs) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 08:39:52] <the_ramink> illsci: heh, ran into the same issues a few months ago and volcane explained it to me. Was pulling my hair out that day because it does seem like you're setting the chain in the init.pp it should be included as part of making sure that class has been run. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 08:47:33] <astrostl> anyone? anyone? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 08:52:28] <astrostl> doesn't appear to be related to http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/2244 as i'm not using pluginsync | ||
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| [2011/12/09 08:52:37] <astrostl> i think this is about as simple of a %h fileserver.conf scenario as one could get | ||
| [2011/12/09 08:53:01] <devinacosta> I have a question, we are using VMWARE ESX5, and we are creating a brand new CentOS 6.0 image, i would like to include the Puppet Enterprise Agent inside the VMWARE template, however I know when I did the install i believe it automatically started puppet and created a certificate, but i want to convert this image to a template so we can deploy from, what is best method to accomplish this? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 08:53:32] <jantman> i just started using puppet 2.6.12. I have a template that uses "if scope.compiler.classlist.include?("foo::bar") then" but it doesn't seem to be working... did this change at some point? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 08:54:42] <astrostl> i'm also not using environments | ||
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| [2011/12/09 09:01:09] <MattTheRat> devinacosta: don't start puppet | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:01:39] <MattTheRat> or rm -rf /var/lib/puppet and make your template | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:03:19] <jantman> scope.compiler.classlist.include? in templates... anyone? | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:03:59] <Diranged> How do you guys handle software packges in Puppet? What i mean is … say I install perl everywhere. no big deal.. but now say i have a module "foo" that requires perl-MySQL … and i also have a module "mysql" that requires perl-MySQL.. | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:04:00] <devinacosta> Ok cause i thought when you go through the puppet enterprise installer even for the agent, it automatically starts it, and isn't the enterprise fully contained inside the /opt directory, or would just deleting the /var/lib/puppet for the enterprise clear any client certificate requests that was generated during the install? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 09:04:23] <Diranged> i know i can just put perl-MySQL into a single perl module and have it included in both places.. but that, to me, feels like im not clearly defining that in both of those modules, perl-MySQL is required.. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 09:04:35] <Diranged> thoughts on clean ways to do this? | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:05:21] <MattTheRat> devinacosta: I'm not completely familiar with how the Puppet Enterprise install works but any certs/cert requests that get generated can be removed and re-generated | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:05:42] <MattTheRat> if everything is in /opt, look their for certs to remove | ||
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| [2011/12/09 09:05:48] <MattTheRat> *there | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:05:51] <MattTheRat> wow, I'm out of it | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:05:53] <jantman> Diranged: look up Virtual Resources | ||
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| [2011/12/09 09:06:18] <jantman> that, IMHO, is the *right* way to do it, even though none of the reference implementations seem to do it that way | ||
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| [2011/12/09 09:08:11] <Diranged> yeah that feels weird.. because i have to define the resource in some other common location.. and then just refer to it.. right? | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:08:19] <jantman> yes | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:08:36] <Diranged> yeah i understand why that makes sense.. :/ i still dont like it.. hrmm | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:08:47] <Diranged> oh well.. for now its not a big deal.. i was just curious | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:08:49] <jantman> so assuming you have a "base" or "common" module, you could define the virtual packages there | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:08:55] <jantman> base::packages or something | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:09:05] <jantman> and then realize them where needed | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:09:05] <Diranged> (sitting here creating a python module and the question occurred to me) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 09:10:54] <astrostl> pastebin: http://pastebin.com/LYhnuVWx (includes relevant fileserver.conf, manifest, and output stubs) <-- any ideas? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 09:22:09] <dparry> good afternoon, anyone know how to set the active record wait_timeout up from the default of 5 across the board? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 09:22:22] <illsci> the_ramink: Do you also only include the class::subclass along with specifying the class::subclass in the ordering? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 09:31:58] <deni> how do i force the puppet agent to request new certificate if i've change the puppet server? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 09:32:57] <dparry> deni stop puppet client. rm -rf /var/lib/puppet/ssl on client I think. puppet cert --clean clientaddress on master. start puppet on client | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:33:11] <dparry> or possibly /var/lib/puppet/state | ||
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| [2011/12/09 09:33:28] <dparry> or just blow away /var/lib/puppet on the client usually works for us too | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:34:14] <deni> and then just start the client? | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:34:32] <dparry> yeah, it'll recreate /var/lib/puppet afresh | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:34:56] <dparry> you'll want to do the cert clean on the puppet master too | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:35:14] <dparry> unless it's a brand new server that knows nothing of the client | ||
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| [2011/12/09 09:36:27] <deni> dparry: tnx...that worked | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:36:41] <dparry> awesome | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:36:46] <deni> dparry: it's a brand new server so no need for clean | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:36:49] <deni> tnx | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:36:56] <dparry> gotcha | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:37:08] <ashp> This puppet bug is insanely annoying :( | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:37:13] <ashp> it tries to write everyone's ssh key to my key | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:38:18] <astrostl> figured it out: it was seeing the master as 'puppet' per its cert, not host1-1 | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:38:26] <astrostl> running the master in debug / no-daemonize helped | ||
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| [2011/12/09 09:45:38] <jamesturnbull> gepetto: seen fsargent | ||
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| [2011/12/09 09:46:56] <Hunner> Anyone know about profiling the catalog compiler to see what causes long compiles? | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:47:48] <Spads> long compiles are caused by unclean thoughts | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:48:01] <nigelk> Hunner: http://explanatorygap.net/2010/03/11/profiling-puppetmasterd-with-ruby-prof/ | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:48:07] <nigelk> that was me hacking on this a while ago | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:48:46] <Hunner> Sweet :) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 09:50:15] <the_ramink> I've been trying some ideas out with node_name_value. Is there some secret fact that I can use to access it like clientcert? | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:50:56] <Volcane> the_ramink: its $clientcert | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:51:22] <Volcane> hmm, or is it, they should match but might be wrong | ||
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| [2011/12/09 09:51:38] <the_ramink> Volcane: odd, doesn't seem to be working, but maybe I'm doing something wrong. I'll bang on it some more. | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:52:27] <the_ramink> fwiw I'm setting certname as well which might be part of the problem. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 09:53:02] <Volcane> anyway, notify{"foo": message => inline_template("<%= scope.to_hash.inspect %>")} | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:53:20] <Volcane> thats all thats available :) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 09:53:40] <Volcane> minus the $caller_* vars i think | ||
| [2011/12/09 09:54:33] <the_ramink> Volcane: I'd been wondering how to get access to the full list. Thanks much. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 10:38:27] <ashp> DBAS: literally the worst people in IT | ||
| [2011/12/09 10:38:40] <ashp> today my DBAs told me automation is impossible because "things are different for each application!" | ||
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| [2011/12/09 10:44:40] <gniks> lulz | ||
| [2011/12/09 10:44:53] <gniks> better put them on a leash | ||
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| [2011/12/09 10:46:57] <Theory> ls | ||
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| [2011/12/09 10:54:03] <MattTheRat> ls: command not found | ||
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| [2011/12/09 10:54:44] <tremble> sounds like the path's wrong | ||
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| [2011/12/09 11:04:26] <setient> hmm, anyone got some good examples of before/after stuff | ||
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| [2011/12/09 11:16:18] <Majestic> Hi, I have a wee small error, well not really an error more on my understanding on scopes again. I have the following code in an erb template.. <% if scope.lookupvar(':params::check_ipv6') == "true" then -%> - which isnt doing what I want. The file which has the veriable in is params.pp and in this case its called check_ipv6. Is the cope for the top ::params::check_ipv6? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 11:18:49] <ashp> err: /Stage[main]/Oracle::Server/Puppet::Install_file[oracle-perimeter.tar.bz2]/Exec[install-oracle-perimeter.tar.bz2]/returns: change from notrun to 0 failed: Command exceeded timeout at /etc/puppet/modules/development/puppet/manifests/install_file.pp:17 | ||
| [2011/12/09 11:19:02] <ashp> Damn, I don't suppose there's a way to do timeouts per command :/ | ||
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| [2011/12/09 11:19:28] <the_ramink> ashp: timeout => 1800, | ||
| [2011/12/09 11:19:33] <the_ramink> or whatever | ||
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| [2011/12/09 11:19:39] <ashp> aha! you can, perfect | ||
| [2011/12/09 11:19:48] <ashp> it's a 2.5G tar.bz2 so it takes foreverrrr | ||
| [2011/12/09 11:20:00] <limed> damn you oracle and your huge files | ||
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| [2011/12/09 11:29:17] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Release_Notes (#153) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Release_Notes?version=153 (by Nick Fagerlund) | ||
| [2011/12/09 11:32:00] <Majestic> nvm - me bing dumb arse sorted now ;) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 11:33:03] <mfridh> wow, this is a first for me: Could not retrieve operatingsystem: can't convert nil into String | ||
| [2011/12/09 11:34:26] <mfridh> apparently someone screwed with some files from centos-release package. | ||
| [2011/12/09 11:34:31] <mfridh> bad bad sysadmin | ||
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| [2011/12/09 11:38:18] <mao> hello all. i'm playing with a module i downloaded, and the init.pp only contains a definition, but not a class | ||
| [2011/12/09 11:38:36] <mao> i'm trying to figure out how i would call it | ||
| [2011/12/09 11:38:44] <mao> it's the puppet-lvm module fwiw | ||
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| [2011/12/09 11:40:47] <limed> should just be lvm::volume {"blah": something} | ||
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| [2011/12/09 12:27:14] <Majestic> mfridh: someone earlier had same issue. If you use the puppetlabs repo it will fix facter for you. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 12:35:04] <lisa> with the puppetlabs-firewall module is there a way to easily specify multiple source or destination hosts for a single rule? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 12:50:26] <Majestic> oooops, wonder if anyone could give me a bit of quick help.. ran into small issue. code I have in erb is: <% acl.each do |acllist| -%><%= acllist -%>,<% end -%>127.0.0.1 - now the issue is how do you do this but point the right scope at it like you would if you did <% if scope.lookupvar('nagios3::params::check_raid_md0') == "true" then -%>? | ||
| [2011/12/09 12:51:36] <walkeran> Majestic: I think you are looking for: scope.lookupvar('acl').each | ||
| [2011/12/09 12:52:05] <joe-mac> except you shouldn't need to lookup acl if it is local to the class that uses that template | ||
| [2011/12/09 12:52:24] <walkeran> this is true.. | ||
| [2011/12/09 12:53:02] <Majestic> awesome thank you walkeran | ||
| [2011/12/09 12:53:17] <walkeran> yw | ||
| [2011/12/09 12:53:30] <Majestic> yea I moved it to a params file which then broke it - just tiding up code etc | ||
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| [2011/12/09 12:54:02] <joe-mac> yea if you moved the variable to a different scop ethen you need to look it up | ||
| [2011/12/09 12:56:40] <Majestic> yea :) just didnt know how do do the same as I do for others but with the .each stuff. not fantatic with ruby code - still learning.. lots still to ;) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 13:06:06] <d3c> I keep getting 'Skipping device resources because running on a host' for Schedule-resources that I haven't defined. puppet 2.7.6 running under passenger. http://pastebin.com/dE4N48KH - any ideas what might be causing this? problem arises when I run puppet with --summarize where it will return a non-zero exit code. running without summarize, puppet returns 0. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 13:18:39] <jamesturnbull> d3c: they are debug messages ... they shouldn't change the exit code | ||
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| [2011/12/09 13:26:21] <d3c> jamesturnbull: alright. will see if anything changes with 2.7.8. upgrading master and nodes to it now. | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:26:32] <mfridh> Majestic: actually, I found out it was due to my own poorly written facter module. and the reinstall of centos-release fixing the problem was a mere coincidence. | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:26:40] <mfridh> back to the drawingboard | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:26:46] <Majestic> mfridh: good to know. | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:26:56] <mfridh> I'm not handling errors properly and return nil | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:27:01] <mfridh> bad bad mfridh | ||
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| [2011/12/09 13:27:21] <Majestic> hehe - well must say I havent started writting my own factor modules yet - scares me :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:27:31] <Fthis> what IRC client does everyone use these days? | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:27:43] <Fthis> don't make me ctcp version | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:27:49] <Majestic> I am just using extlookups for 99% of everything but some of that could go if I did it within facter | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:27:58] <Majestic> xchat here | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:28:01] <mfridh> Fthis: irssi | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:28:32] <Fthis> i gotta learn how to use irssi, its probably the best choice | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:28:36] <Fthis> what a pain in the ass though | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:28:40] <mfridh> I just gotta scope out some of the other facter modules and see how they handle errors. I know 0 ruby myself. | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:28:47] <mfridh> Fthis: it's easy. | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:28:50] <Majestic> used to use it years ago. | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:29:07] <mfridh> irssi; /server; /j channel, presto | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:29:12] <Dominic> Majestic: #2157 will eventually hit Facter 1.7 or something, so you'll be able to write facts in shell scripts or other languages, rather than having to use Ruby. should make it more accessible... | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:29:13] <gepetto> Dominic: Majestic: #2157 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/2157 "Facter - Feature #2157: External fact support. It has a status of Code Insufficient and is assigned to Adrien Thebo" | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:29:16] <Majestic> mfridh: yea - will see what I can find later. still writting this massive nrpe/nagious plugins | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:29:25] <mfridh> that's fun | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:29:44] <Majestic> Dominic: man that be perfect :) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 13:30:13] <Majestic> sure will look forward to that :) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 13:37:34] <rutger_> Majestic: if you're looking to config Nagios from Puppet we have modules for that (well, for Icinga, same config though). You can find it in the gen and kbp repos on https://github.com/kumina. Maybe it can help you in some way. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 13:39:16] <Majestic> cheers thanks rutger. mines taking great shape - I did a few weeks ago look at what others had and didnt quite do what I wanted :) and didnt want to butcher someone elses code so wirtting one from scratch. Great fun.. leared how to export data from nodes and write configs on another today.. so simple I could slap myself silly but its a great excise :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:39:23] <Majestic> will take a look at that repo now also thxs | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:40:49] <rutger_> no problem, if you see issues with our code please let us know, we use that code in our prod monitoring so any errors will be squashed asap :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:41:19] <Majestic> :) okey. | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:41:20] <rutger_> but yeah, I understand the fun in writing it from scratch, Icinga config and Ferm were the biggest I did so far, but always looking for more! | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:41:43] <Majestic> aye - in the middle of converting everything to puppet | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:41:56] <Majestic> one day it be complete ;) | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:42:06] <Majestic> but the fun is.. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 13:42:17] <stahnma> Dominic: external facts are more-or-less available if you use puppetlabs-stdlib today | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:42:33] <rutger_> heh, we've been on that project for years. We'll, we do everything with Puppet, but after some time you really don't like your old code anymore | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:42:35] <Majestic> machine dies, reload os, install puppet, run puppet agent --test, wait a few secs/mins and then machine is back to how it was lol. | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:42:45] <Majestic> yea I know what you mean. | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:42:52] <Majestic> Just wished I was better at ruby | ||
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| [2011/12/09 13:43:26] <rutger_> secs/mins? consider yourself lucky, a Puppet run on our Icinga server (it runs only Icinga) takes about 25 minutes. The joy of exported resources | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:43:33] <Majestic> but the bits I have picked up covers most lucky.. but if they do liek factor stuff in other languages etc.. makes it so much better for me.. I know bash & perl mostly. odds and sods extra. | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:43:37] <Majestic> hehe | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:43:50] <Majestic> well only just started with exported recorces today | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:43:56] <Majestic> but will be using a lot more.. | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:44:15] <Majestic> just every site including the wiki didnt make it clear for me for some reason in there examples | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:44:17] <d3c> jamesturnbull: do you get the 'Skipping device resources because running on a host' messages as well if running with --debug? I mean, is this normal? | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:44:34] <Majestic> then I found this very poor looking website which made thinsg so clear I slapped myself silly for not getting it before lol | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:44:34] <jamesturnbull> d3c: it's normal debug output | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:44:51] <jamesturnbull> rutger_: what Puppet version? | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:44:56] <rutger_> you might want to prepare for longer runs then | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:45:06] <rutger_> sec, checking version | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:45:48] <Majestic> it was this site... http://christian.hofstaedtler.name/blog/2008/10/puppet-exported-resources.html - simple and easy to understand - dont know why the exampel on the wiki just failed my brain LOL. | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:45:54] <rutger_> jamesturnbull: 2.7.6 | ||
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| [2011/12/09 13:46:13] <d3c> jamesturnbull: so you'd expect --summarize to show a number of skipped resources? it always shows 6 (those 6 Schedule-resources). | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:46:22] <jamesturnbull> d3c: yeah | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:46:30] <Majestic> yea I expect longer runes - atm I wrote about 12 modules now from scratch.. this nagios one is the biggest though | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:46:39] <jamesturnbull> d3c: though I am not convinced those shouldn't be hidden | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:46:44] <jamesturnbull> rutger_: how many resources under management? | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:47:08] <jamesturnbull> rutger_: I have hmmm 500 odd Nagios resources exporting on a host and it rakes 2.5 mins for a run | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:47:22] <jamesturnbull> so I think something be not right :( | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:47:24] <d3c> jamesturnbull: I think that was the way it used to be. I starting experiencing those problems after upgrading from 2.6.x (don't remember exact version atm) to 2.7.6 and now also 2.7.8 | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:47:33] <rutger_> I'm checking the DB for a resource count on our Icinga servers, the numbers get really high due to our layered system and lots of wrappers | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:47:51] <jamesturnbull> d3c: can you log a bug please | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:47:52] <rutger_> our Icinga server has 4555 resources in the DB | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:48:26] <jamesturnbull> rutger_: hmmm even then 25 mins seems like a long time | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:48:30] <Majestic> nice rutger. I havent yet even looked at Icinga or that other one yet. | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:48:33] <rutger_> that's 121 hosts with 1321 services | ||
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| [2011/12/09 13:49:19] <d3c> jamesturnbull: yes, will do. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 13:49:23] <Majestic> I have around 50, but only 9 modules curently - but puppet is set to cron not daemon. Did this to spread the load with rng. | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:49:57] <Majestic> as I said rutger, I still got a lot lot lot of work to do to mirgrate all services etc to puppet. | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:50:11] <Majestic> but the beniffits are huge :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:50:14] <rutger_> jamesturnbull, we're waiting for a quieter time at the office so we can strart cracking down on Puppet to see where all the time goes, but it definitely started to rise when we started with exported resources (that Icinga config is 100% exported except for the checks on the Icinga server itself) | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:50:40] <jamesturnbull> rutger_: yeah - ping me when you have that quiet time and we cna see if we can help debug | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:51:17] <rutger_> will do, you might also have heard tim|mac about it before | ||
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| [2011/12/09 13:52:00] <d3c> jamesturnbull: are you into the macports provider? I got some other strange stuff happening there. could show you that as well to see if I should file a bug for it | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:53:47] <rutger_> Majestic: something I forgot to mention: we only use Debian, so our code is written nor tested for any other OS. But as it's Puppet, the idea stays the same ofc | ||
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| [2011/12/09 13:54:09] <Majestic> rutger: 95% of systems here also debian... last 5% centos | ||
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| [2011/12/09 13:54:43] <rutger_> ah, then it should work out of the box as long as it's Lenny or Squeeze (some old Etch stuff in there but don't count on it working) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 13:55:57] <rutger_> if you do decide to use parts of it we'd appreciate it if you could let us know which things were lacking in gen as that repo is supposed to work for anyone, the kbp one is a layer of our best practices on top of it | ||
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| [2011/12/09 13:56:35] <Majestic> rutger: infact from memory without checking its only the dom0's & pbx's are centos rest are debian. Dom0's were changed to centos a while ago as squeeze really messed up the stable lenny dom0's. No point using distro which being phased out (life cycle) so switched to centos 5.x which is supported till 2014 from memory. Been perfect since. | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:57:11] <rutger_> it was easier to switch to centos than get it to work with squeeze? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 13:57:49] <jamesturnbull> rutger_: quite possibly | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:58:07] <Majestic> it was not the case of not working in squeeze.. the issue was the dom0 werre unstable. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 13:58:19] <jamesturnbull> d3c: I am not the bets person for the macports stuff but if you log a ticket I can point those people at it | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:58:57] <rutger_> dom0 meaning you use Xen? | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:59:00] <Majestic> loads of posts around saying lenny xen = furbared. It works but if you give any high(ish) load on disk and network, it almost falls over at the very least you get loads of domU panics (mini ones) | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:59:02] <Majestic> yea | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:59:11] <Majestic> not all machines | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:59:21] <Majestic> some are dedicated, some are vms | ||
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| [2011/12/09 13:59:50] <rutger_> ah, all our Xen hosts are Lenny or Etch (/shame) but we use KVM on the Squeeze ones | ||
| [2011/12/09 13:59:55] <Majestic> sorry shoudl of said squeeze xen = furbar, lenny xen = perfect | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:00:19] <Majestic> yea I was running lenny dom0 for about 2 to 3 years without issues | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:01:24] <d3c> jamesturnbull: thanks, will point you to the tickets in a few mins | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:01:40] <Majestic> switched to squeeze urm forgot when probbaly almost a year now ago and had nothing but issues with it.. still not sure what the issues are - everyone has same issues, for some its fine for others its not. I use mostly supermicro servers and a lot of people also have issues with them but ive also tested with other severs inc asus, dell, hp etc and most gives issues :( | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:02:17] <Majestic> its easy to test, generate high disk and network io and watch the panics flood in. dom0 is clear/find - some NOT all the guests (domu) will start to panic. | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:02:17] <rutger_> not issues on KVM, that might be an option | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:03:01] <Majestic> I did use KVM for a month or so on the squeeze machines but found performance was not as good.. infact quite a but worse.. you wont notice unless your on gbit or faster connection though | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:03:06] <haus> jbaldridge: deb src should be working now from apt.puppetlabs.com | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:03:26] <Majestic> if your only on 100mbit - thats why you not noticed ;) | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:03:47] <jbaldridge> haus: excellent. | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:03:51] <rutger_> it differs between our customers, but we haven't seen issues on either | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:04:10] <haus> jbaldridge: at least for puppet and facter | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:05:01] <Majestic> rutger: lucky for you :) as I said not everyone has issues - but theres no real solution to the problem as its still being tracked. example friend of mine who runs another company using squeeze dom0's and hes had no problems.. where most of the machines here (mostly supermicro) have issues. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:05:25] <rutger_> supermicro being amazon? | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:05:31] <Majestic> oh no | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:06:20] <Majestic> http://www.supermicro.co.uk/ | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:06:31] <rutger_> yeah, found it on google :) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:07:05] <gwmngilfen> can anyone shed light on this error: "err: Could not create resources for managing Puppet's files and directories in sections [:main, :agent, :ssl]: uninitialized constant Module::Win32API | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:07:05] <gwmngilfen> " | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:07:15] <gwmngilfen> oops, trailing newline | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:07:22] <Majestic> rutger: :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:08:46] <williemach> im having some issues getting a puppet module to run properly... i want it to execute a script only if this condition exists... unless => "/usr/bin/service network-manager status | grep stop/waiting" | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:09:09] <williemach> i mean only if this condition does not exist | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:10:02] <williemach> but when im running a test, it i keep getting an error that the Exec should be 0, when in fact network-manager is running and showing "start/running", any ideas? | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:10:21] <Majestic> thing is rutger back in lenny it was 2.6.26 kernel base with xen 3.x and when they did squeeze it was massive jump overall as it now is xen 4.x and 2.6.32.xx and its either the kernel or xen. Tried many diff custom kernels/patches it still did same or worse! worse being dom0 started rebooting on its own! its not the hardware though - oredred over 10 new boxies did the same lol. oh well but as I said centos 5.x for dom0 and nps any more runs eve | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:10:21] <Majestic> n fine using 10Gbe cards | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:12:22] <rutger_> especially weird that it happens to some but not others | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:12:45] <Majestic> yea - google/newsgroups etc flooded with same things | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:12:54] <Majestic> dam shame :( | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:12:56] <d3c> jamesturnbull: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/11317 | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:13:55] <Majestic> pbx's only centos due to some drivers needed for some of the cards only have rpms and like alien doent make them work with debian :( so they had to be centos. Lucky never had any issues with the pbxs also phew ;) | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:14:32] <Dominic> williemach: sounds like the error you're getting is for the command itself, not the unless condition. Perhaps pastebin the resource and exact log message? | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:15:20] <Majestic> right back to puppet module, ping if ya need me | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:17:36] <rutger_> jamesturnbull, do you know if any progress is being made on getting Pupet to work with Ruby 1.9? That might help in speeding things up a bit | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:18:50] <jorhett> rutger_ : they claim that it is compatible with ruby 1.9, but yes I've seen numerous issues reported | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:18:59] <Majestic> rutger_: you got some nice plugins I may urm borrow if you dont mind :) - when I get chance ile upload all my custom ones - some wrote myself years ago lol | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:19:27] <rutger_> borrow what you want, they're not on github to be left alone :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:19:44] <jamesturnbull> rutger_: I run Ruby 1.9.2 entirely now | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:19:59] <jamesturnbull> rutger_: support in 2.7.0 onwards | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:20:41] <Majestic> hehe thanks rutger_ | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:21:04] <rutger_> ow nice, then we're going to test it asap, we ran into http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/7428 last time we tried it | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:22:22] <rutger_> I'm off, not allowed to do anything without --noop anyway after having a beer :) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:25:59] <Moepigalh312k> hello | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:26:00] <Moepigalh312k> http://bit.ly/uPBolO | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:26:04] <gwmngilfen> jamesturnbull: do you still have the ssl certificate problem in that setup? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:30:02] <zwi> If I auto deploy to a test box using puppet is there a way to run run my automated tests after the puppet run? Maybe a way to do that in reporting? I could think of doing an exec in a final stage or something but I was trying to avoid stages | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:33:21] <Callek> stahnma: aiui 2.7.8 is out, therefore /topic needs updating :-) | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:34:04] <jamesturnbull> gwmngilfen: #9084? | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:34:05] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: gwmngilfen: #9084 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/9084 "Puppet - Bug #9084: Mixing and matching ruby versions for puppetmasterd and puppetd causes a "certificate verify failed" error. It has a status of Accepted and is assigned to -" | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:34:22] <Dominic> zwi: there is a setting called "postrun_command", perhaps you could run tests from that (I think it's sometimes used for etckeeper and the like) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:35:27] <gwmngilfen> jamesturnbull: indeed, although from the topic name, I guess you don't have that issue. I thought I'd proved I still had it even on the same ruby version, but at the moment, I'm not sure my tests were conclusive | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:35:51] * gwmngilfen really needs to rebuild his personal puppetmaster | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:38:48] <jamesturnbull> gwmngilfen: let me read that one over again | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:40:30] <gwmngilfen> jamesturnbull: i was more talking about #8858 - but 9084 is referenced there | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:40:30] <gepetto> gwmngilfen: jamesturnbull: #8858 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/8858 "Puppet - Bug #8858: Puppet registration with master with Ruby 1.9.2. It has a status of Needs More Information and is assigned to Ryan Conway" | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:41:05] <gwmngilfen> i posted last saying that the workaround failed for me, but it seems to be working now, so I was probably doing something strange. Just wondered if you were seeing the same behaviour | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:42:43] <zwi> Dominic: Thanks! I'll take a look at that | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:43:24] <jamesturnbull> gwmngilfen: weird - I've not seen that at all | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:43:46] <jamesturnbull> gwmngilfen: I don't use any of those platforms ... so maybe that's it? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:44:10] <gwmngilfen> it's possible. ireally need to test it more | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:44:21] <jamesturnbull> very odd workaround though | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:44:39] <gwmngilfen> i thought I had, but then the workaround started functioning, so a) i was doing something wrong and b) i've invalidated all my previous tests :) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:46:35] <gwmngilfen> jamesturnbull: what platform are you running your 1.9.2 setup on? | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:46:47] <jamesturnbull> gwmngilfen: Fedora 16 | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:47:01] * jamesturnbull is one of those people who never keened to Ubuntu | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:47:30] <gwmngilfen> i moved away from ubuntu a while back, but our company is a debian shop | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:47:36] <gwmngilfen> so i have a mix here at home | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:47:49] <Dominic> jamesturnbull: is 1.9 packaged, or installed via some other means? | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:48:45] <jamesturnbull> Dominic: own RPMs based on the F17 ones | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:49:41] <jamesturnbull> Dominic: I don't install things from source ... ever ... I have become quite old and grumpy about it | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:49:46] <stahnma> Callek: good call | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:49:55] <stahnma> I didn't do the release this time, so I didn't do the topic ;) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:50:26] <Dominic> jamesturnbull: heh indeed, I didn't realise 1.9 was in F17 | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:50:30] <Callek> its ok, just figured I would point it out | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:50:38] @ stahnma set topic "Puppet Enterprise 2.0 is out: http://bit.ly/PE_2 | Important Security Announcement: http://bit.ly/AltNames | Puppet 2.7.8 and 2.6.12 available at downloads.puppetlabs.com | http://docs.puppetlabs.com | Bugs & Feature Requests http://bit.ly/dKVa0A | November Newsletter http://bit.ly/nl11-11" | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:50:41] * Callek makes the same mistakes frequently when he releases SeaMonkey | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:51:23] <jamesturnbull> Dominic: I think it's 1.9.3 in F17 - I just stole their spec file | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:51:44] <Dominic> jamesturnbull: ta, I might do that too... 1.9 things keep tripping me up | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:51:50] @ Quit: miche: Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:52:10] <Dominic> or it's an excuse to try out fpm | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:53:03] <jamesturnbull> Dominic: I'd recommend the latter - it's good stuff and worth a look | ||
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| [2011/12/09 14:54:50] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Development_Puppet_Continuous_Integration (#6) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Development_Puppet_Continuous_Integration?version=6 (by Jeff McCune) | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:55:30] <Callek> ooo Jenkins management :-) | ||
| [2011/12/09 14:55:52] <d3c> jamesturnbull: macports issue (not sure if you need more information): http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/11319 | ||
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| [2011/12/09 15:00:58] <jamesturnbull> d3c: thanks - just tidied the output a little | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:01:59] <d3c> jamesturnbull: ah, sorry. same issue with the other bug I reported: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/11317 | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:02:39] <d3c> jamesturnbull: will add <pre> | ||
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| [2011/12/09 15:27:45] <Majestic> anyone got a good nagios_hostgroup example, I am trying to use it to give a host into multi groups i..e one host could be a member of group a b and d? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 15:28:50] <Majestic> I am looking at this atm: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/2.7.6/type.html - but cant see how I can get it to work with multi groups | ||
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| [2011/12/09 15:29:19] <gwmngilfen> Majestic: I had to give up on the naginator resources - all my nagios config is generated with File resources now | ||
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| [2011/12/09 15:31:48] <Majestic> gwmngilfen: hehehh ok was trying to automate it :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:32:32] <gwmngilfen> oh, it's fully automated :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:32:40] <gwmngilfen> exported resources are awesome, even for files :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:33:36] <Majestic> atm the services are done via extlookup i.e. $check_imap = extlookup("nrpe_check_imap", "false") and callled via csv using nrpe_check_imap,true to enable which works loverly. | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:34:17] <Majestic> yea gwmngilfen using exported recorces for the fqdn.cfg files i.e. services to monitor but now I need to try and sort hostgroups out as it looks a mess now all in *all lol | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:34:41] <gwmngilfen> heh | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:35:09] * gwmngilfen tries to recall his hostgroup setup | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:35:44] <Majestic> my manual one is perfect ofc but idea in spending all this work is to fully automate it - well fully I mean I dont mind updating csvs etc till I get some factors written myself which other modules could add in i.e. if web server is added then it would add it in the factor but thats for another day/year lol... waiting on more language support on factor first for that lol | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:36:28] <Majestic> but right now trying to think of solutions around the hostgroup issue hum.. | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:36:42] <gwmngilfen> yeah, i went down that line - facter variables, parsed into arrays, calling a defined type which has an exported file in it :) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 15:37:10] <Majestic> problem is exported recorces works fine for files but.. meh head fuc..... due to need the other info then like join together.. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 15:37:56] <Majestic> nice.. would you mind showing me a simple example of a factor homegrown module? one say which is just as you said | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:38:21] <gwmngilfen> let me see what I can pastie together that isn't *too* specific to our usecase | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:38:25] <gwmngilfen> gimme a few min | ||
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| [2011/12/09 15:38:44] <Majestic> or even a simple location (dont mean envirment) :) i.e. I got multi dc's and some settings change depening where they located | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:38:54] <gwmngilfen> ah, that data comes from my ENC :) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 15:39:07] <Majestic> ENC? | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:39:15] <gwmngilfen> external node classifier | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:39:23] <Majestic> hum.. not bumpted into that | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:39:31] * Majestic goes googling thxs :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:39:58] <gwmngilfen> it's not unlike extlookup | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:40:16] <gwmngilfen> just a different view | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:40:43] <Majestic> right | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:40:55] <Majestic> looking at http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/external_nodes.html | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:41:03] <gwmngilfen> it's another external source of truth, shall we say :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:41:08] <Majestic> looks intresting - adding to to do list :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:41:35] <Majestic> thxs for that tip.. still very much intrested in a generic simple facter module if you wouldnt mind :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:41:48] <Majestic> only if you have time.. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 15:42:41] <gwmngilfen> i'm struggling to be more generic with my module - our use case is only a few boxes per site, and only one runs puppet | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:42:45] <Majestic> still deep in thoughs on how can get over my problem LOL. unless I write it manauly boo | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:42:58] <Majestic> right | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:43:02] <gwmngilfen> so theres a db entry with a list of ips that need some nagios attention | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:43:12] <Majestic> right | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:43:13] <gwmngilfen> facter pulls that out and the nagios module does the rest | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:43:25] <Majestic> hum | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:43:38] <gwmngilfen> assuming thats of some vague use, i can show how we do that - you might be able to adapt it :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:43:55] <Majestic> that may just work yea :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:43:58] <Majestic> thank you | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:44:27] <Majestic> still racking brain lol - I can hear the cogs clicking lol | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:45:02] <Majestic> hum - maybe tad messy but I have an idea | ||
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| [2011/12/09 15:46:31] <Majestic> heres a thought... what I could do is still with the extlookup in mind, I could write a normal script (bash or perl) which could read the csv files and then have a veriable in there which is used for the hostgroups then use the script to generate the right config file. That shoudl be easily triggable via puppet so its still automated. | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:47:22] <Majestic> ofc not ideal but cant do much till the support is in for multi hostgroups in my case lol | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:47:59] <gwmngilfen> http://pastie.org/2993677 | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:48:05] <Majestic> oo looking thxs | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:48:07] <Majestic> brb | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:48:29] <gwmngilfen> i've omitted the fact generation because the code to get it from the db is horrendous | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:48:48] <gwmngilfen> i can give a simpler example of selecting stuff from a db if you want it | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:49:43] <Majestic> np :) yea that be nice thank you | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:49:57] <Majestic> yea the way you shown is the way generaly im doing it atm | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:50:18] <Majestic> but I didnt know you could split in the manifest :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:50:22] <Majestic> so thank you for that tip :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:50:26] <Majestic> adding to notes ;) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 15:51:11] <Majestic> this line: $iptv_servers = split($iptvs, ',') - really useful to know ;) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:51:38] <gwmngilfen> here's me getting a single value from a psql db: http://pastie.org/2993689 | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:51:50] <Majestic> thxs looking | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:51:52] <gwmngilfen> yes, that's the ugliest text processing in history | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:52:00] <gwmngilfen> and yes, i should rewrite it in ruby | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:52:16] <Majestic> Your kidding.... is it this simple? | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:52:44] <Majestic> I assume where you called variable_name would be the name of the factor? | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:52:53] <Majestic> and the result be after ofc? | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:53:09] <gwmngilfen> indeed | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:53:20] <gwmngilfen> new Facts are very, very simple | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:53:30] <Majestic> dam kick arse thank you!!! love ya :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:53:32] <gwmngilfen> a couple of lines of ruby, for easy ones | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:53:34] @ Quit: amoe: Ping timeout: 244 seconds | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:53:49] <gwmngilfen> plenty of examples around - if you have either of the books, there's a chapter on it | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:53:50] <Majestic> one last quick question if I may... where do you put this code? | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:53:58] <gwmngilfen> are you using modules? | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:54:13] <Majestic> yea | ||
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| [2011/12/09 15:54:18] <Majestic> lib? | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:54:25] <gwmngilfen> somemodule/lib/facter/anyoldfilename.rb | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:54:30] <Majestic> thought so | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:54:32] <Majestic> thank you :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:54:35] <gwmngilfen> np | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:54:35] <Majestic> just checking | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:54:47] <Majestic> man I could do so much with this :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:55:06] <gwmngilfen> getting under the hood of puppet is where it really gets fun, imo | ||
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| [2011/12/09 15:55:37] <Majestic> yea it is | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:55:39] <gwmngilfen> I had to do a lot on server introspection with custom facts, so as not to upset our field staff :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:55:46] <gwmngilfen> so I have ~20 custom facts already :P | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:55:55] <Majestic> loverly :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:57:08] <Majestic> so in short I can still write it as a little bash script so to speak in the factor - thought you coulnt atm and it had to be in ruby which scared me lol | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:57:23] <gwmngilfen> it has to be ruby - but you can shell out :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:57:37] <Majestic> ahh - hah sweet :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:57:38] <gwmngilfen> tbh, it's better if you do it in ruby | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:57:49] * gwmngilfen really needs to rewrite that text processing | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:57:53] <Majestic> hehe | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:58:02] <Majestic> I found all ruby docs to be... poor | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:58:16] <gwmngilfen> by comparision the code for the nagios facts is 99 lines long :P | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:58:17] <haus> and they hide ruby 1.8.5 docs | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:58:20] <Majestic> but ive not looked for a good ruby book though so probbaly should | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:58:27] <Majestic> I see | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:58:46] <gwmngilfen> but it generates a lot of data, lots of loops over db tables :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:58:58] <Majestic> yea | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:58:58] <gwmngilfen> typically outputing about 15 facts | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:59:02] <Majestic> right | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:59:10] <gwmngilfen> can't easily do that in bash :P | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:59:21] <Majestic> you be surpised what I can in bash :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:59:46] <gwmngilfen> oh likewise - but what you can do isn;t always what you should do (*cough, I'm looking at you Perl*) | ||
| [2011/12/09 15:59:54] <Majestic> hehe | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:00:03] <Majestic> and very true... | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:00:14] <gwmngilfen> time for a late night cup of tea | ||
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| [2011/12/09 16:00:28] <Majestic> I always try and do best practices anyway - just atm ruby is a nightmare but ofc know enough to do me templates... | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:00:48] <gwmngilfen> facts aren't any harder than templates, at least, not for easy stuff | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:00:48] <Majestic> enjoy gwmngilfen, me back to modules writting :) and testing a quick fact out | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:00:59] <Majestic> great to hear | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:01:16] <gwmngilfen> ofc, i've been using ruby for ~3 years, so it's easier for me anyway :P | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:01:31] <Majestic> yea lol | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:02:10] <Majestic> then you have no excuse not to write it in ruby - well if you get a second later - can you convery that to ruby :) just so I can see how it should be done :) only if it takes a few minutes if not dont worry. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 16:04:07] <gwmngilfen> after i have tea. my hands may freeze off otherwise | ||
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| [2011/12/09 16:06:20] <Majestic> yea no rush and thank you | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:06:51] <gwmngilfen> heh,it's midnight and I'm rebuilding VMs. i can spare a little time | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:08:54] <williemach> i need some help with a module, i'm trying to get a command kick off unless => /usr/sbin/service network-manager status | grep stop | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:09:45] <williemach> my exact line looks like unless => "/usr/sbin/service network-manager status | grep stop"; | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:10:08] <williemach> but when i'm testing it, the command doesnt kick off even though network-manager is in start/running | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:11:18] <williemach> i've been trying it on command line, and echo $? is claiming 0 | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:12:12] <Majestic> gwmngilfen: thank you - sorry for delay just made a hot drink also | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:12:23] <gwmngilfen> williemach: what OS? | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:12:30] <williemach> ubuntu 10.04 | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:13:39] <gwmngilfen> hmm | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:13:43] <williemach> could it be spacing in the command? | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:13:56] <gwmngilfen> i only have an 11.10 to test on, but I get an exit of 1 for something similar | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:14:11] <williemach> weird | ||
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| [2011/12/09 16:14:17] <gwmngilfen> /usr/sbin/service ssh status|grep stop ; echo $? => 1 | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:14:29] <williemach> let me give that a go | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:15:10] <williemach> oh thats because it's running, correct? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 16:15:28] <gwmngilfen> ya | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:15:30] <williemach> /usr/sbin/service ssh status | grep running ; echo $? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 16:15:48] <williemach> i want it to execute if it's running | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:16:08] <gwmngilfen> so, instead on "unless", use "onlyif" and grep for running | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:16:13] <gwmngilfen> *of | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:17:11] <gwmngilfen> technically I think that's the same as what you have, but it's clearer as to your intentions :) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 16:17:47] <williemach> yeah, no luck, still coming back as not being run | ||
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| [2011/12/09 16:18:12] <gwmngilfen> and that grepping for "running" gives an exit status of 0? | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:19:04] <williemach> yep, still returning 0 | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:19:11] <williemach> but in noop, saying it's 1 | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:19:42] <gwmngilfen> try with -v -d -trace | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:19:45] <gwmngilfen> *--trace | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:20:00] <gwmngilfen> see if you can see that it's running it correctly, and try what it's running | ||
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| [2011/12/09 16:23:09] <williemach> http://www.pastie.org/2993792 | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:23:20] <williemach> even though it's returning 0 when i'm executing on the command line | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:23:24] <williemach> so odd | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:23:56] <gwmngilfen> iirc i think that says "i would have run it but i was in noop" | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:24:29] <gwmngilfen> try it without the noop | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:24:36] <gwmngilfen> i think that'll execute :) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 16:25:27] <gwmngilfen> you've not got the exit status of your test in that output, you've got a log saying "I wanted this exec to exit with 0, but I was in noop, so I didn't run it" | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:25:54] <torrancew> If you don't specify a path => parameter (which I'm htinking you don't, since you fully qualify service), how will it find grep, unless you fully qualify that too? | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:25:56] <williemach> ah, gotcha | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:26:34] <williemach> torrancew, i get what you're saying, but it's worked in the past | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:26:47] <williemach> i might try that on this module though | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:27:51] <Majestic> gwmngilfen: im winning :) just working few more things out atm | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:28:26] <williemach> gwmngilfen: thanks for your help, i think the issue with my script that is executing... it's giving out non 0 status when run | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:29:05] <gwmngilfen> williemach: np | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:29:11] <gwmngilfen> Majestic: neraly got that example :P | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:29:35] <Majestic> gwmngilfen: many thanks :) still working on some bits also | ||
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| [2011/12/09 16:31:06] <gwmngilfen> http://www.pastie.org/2993818 | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:31:22] <gwmngilfen> that's overkill, but just for comparison :P | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:31:46] <gwmngilfen> not all my machines have the ruby-pg libraries, so I have to shell out psql usually | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:32:08] <gwmngilfen> but since you asked :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:36:25] <Majestic> looking :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:37:18] <Majestic> doesnt look too bad | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:37:38] <Majestic> making a note thanks. | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:37:48] <Majestic> expected a lot worse :) as in understanding | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:37:58] <gwmngilfen> if you were going to use that, I'd be sure to source all my db facts in one go, re-using the db connection | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:38:39] <gwmngilfen> then you're not continually connecting and disconnecting from it | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:39:00] * gwmngilfen should probably adopt his own advice.... | ||
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| [2011/12/09 16:41:38] <Majestic> yea | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:41:54] <Majestic> its given me a lot to think about thank you | ||
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| [2011/12/09 16:42:52] <Majestic> got more ideas now thanks to you so big thanks again | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:44:00] <gwmngilfen> np | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:46:02] <Majestic> what I think I may do is write load of facts like.. has_httpd etc.. so it becomes has_httpd => yes. That data can be pulled from looking at dpkg or rpm installed then adding a monitor in nagios for it. THis would save me having to manauly go though many csv's and or a db and add in what hostname has what service. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 16:47:35] <Majestic> but atm can leave it as just csv which is working fine - just need to mess with servicegroups and hostgroups which I will do tomorrow. Going to restructue some of it - atm have my live system im looking at and another which is my automated version i.e. puppet controlled. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 16:48:43] <gwmngilfen> iirc you can get a list of assigned classes in a template - so you could even check there if your nodes athe class "httpd" and so on | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:49:22] <Majestic> right - only downside I can see with that is if some things are still not puppet controlled that doesnt fully help :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:49:34] <Majestic> in an ideal world when it all is.. yes that would be perfect lol | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:49:58] <ashp> hmm, hypothetical non-puppet question - you have an application that you want to deploy in three clusters (three seperate regions) with worker nodes that live in the cloud that clients access - these then access one of the three clusters you have | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:50:03] <ashp> how would you guys handle upgrading these? | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:50:23] <ashp> we had originally planned blue/green production systems in each location, so you have production/staging and you flip-flop between them when doing deploys | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:50:37] <ashp> but if you have 3 regions that's 6 sets of machines, starts getting unwieldy | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:51:54] <Majestic> at a rough guess, location fact and your blue/green systems as envirments... I am looking at a simualr thing myself as have about 5 different DCs in different countries | ||
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| [2011/12/09 16:54:23] <kenperkins> ok I'm confused | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:54:34] <kenperkins> for a particular environment, I'm not getting any nodes processed | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:54:38] <kenperkins> they just return immediatley | ||
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| [2011/12/09 16:55:27] @ Quit: miche: Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:55:45] <kenperkins> but the path to the manifest file looks correct in the puppet.conf, and the environment is set correctly in the client puppet conf, so I'm confused | ||
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| [2011/12/09 16:56:25] <sumsuch> hey all, I have a rpm that I have being installed via puppet ( ensure => latest), but it will not update. If I do a yum update package it will update fine, but through puppet it will. If I remove the rpm, and have puppet reinstall it will be of the latest version that it will not update to. Any reason? | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:56:45] <gwmngilfen> kenperkins: are your clients daemonizing? is there a puppet process in "ps ax" output? | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:56:50] <Majestic> oh my its 1am already - I think I will continue tomorrow or I be a zombie ;) - thanks gwmngilfen for the tips/code/help/examples etc will keep you posted on final solution if I see you around again. usualy here - havent been for past few weeks as just moved in rl and had no net access. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 16:57:14] <gwmngilfen> Majestic: i'm always logged in. I pick up messages when I see them :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:57:19] <gwmngilfen> and yw | ||
| [2011/12/09 16:57:28] <Majestic> okey m8ty nn sleep well and cheers again. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 17:01:41] <kenperkins> gwmngilfen: looking | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:01:53] <kenperkins> negative (as I expected) | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:01:58] <kenperkins> we only ever run them as puppet agent --test | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:02:51] <kenperkins> what I don't understand is other environments work correctly | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:03:02] <kenperkins> but all machines within my stage env are basically no-opting | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:03:11] <kenperkins> i.e. they run and return almost immediatley | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:03:21] <kenperkins> ex: notice: Finished catalog run in 2.15 seconds | ||
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| [2011/12/09 17:07:15] <kenperkins> ok I'm getting the same problem for production and stage, but not for test :S | ||
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| [2011/12/09 17:07:26] <gwmngilfen> hmm | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:07:55] * gwmngilfen is sure he's seen that before | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:08:08] <gwmngilfen> do you use an enc? | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:08:31] <kenperkins> enc? not familiar with that | ||
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| [2011/12/09 17:08:43] * kenperkins is stressed out now, he's basically prvented the ability of running puppet in production! | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:10:45] <gwmngilfen> ok, so no enc :) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 17:11:46] <kenperkins> https://gist.github.com/1454148 | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:11:49] <kenperkins> that's my master conf | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:11:55] <kenperkins> here's a client conf that's not working | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:12:33] <kenperkins> https://gist.github.com/1454151 | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:12:45] <kenperkins> <wtf> | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:13:29] <gwmngilfen> hmm | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:13:36] <gwmngilfen> nothing odd there, i don't think | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:13:39] <kenperkins> like I said, mgmt and test work find | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:13:42] <kenperkins> prod and stage don't | ||
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| [2011/12/09 17:14:20] <gwmngilfen> this was working? what's changed? | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:14:41] <gwmngilfen> if you move a node to test, it starts working? | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:15:25] <kenperkins> it was working, but I just reworked all of my module paths to make it easier to deploy | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:15:31] <kenperkins> and test and mgmt work perfectly | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:16:50] <gwmngilfen> sounds like a paths issue. what puppet version? | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:18:05] <kenperkins> let me check I think 2.7.1 everywhere | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:18:36] <kenperkins> sorry 2.7.3 everywhere | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:18:57] <kenperkins> I didn't change the version | ||
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| [2011/12/09 17:19:20] <Callek> stahnma: ooo if you're still around I had a q that I have been asking on and off the past few days.... | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:19:21] <gwmngilfen> iirc you might have $vardir/state/classes.txt on a node - whats in it? | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:19:51] <Callek> ...is there a roadmap/plan/goals list etc for puppet/puppetlabs that is publicly accessible ? | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:20:07] <kenperkins> "settings" | ||
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| [2011/12/09 17:20:32] <kenperkins> whoa | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:20:36] <kenperkins> very different than my other machine | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:20:53] <gwmngilfen> yeah, looks like it was passed no classes | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:20:58] <gwmngilfen> hence why it finished fast | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:21:06] <kenperkins> ok how do I diagnose | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:21:09] <kenperkins> or fix :D | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:21:31] <gwmngilfen> first the ovbvious question - $confdir/environments/$environment/manifests/prod.pp exists? | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:22:12] <kenperkins> I'll double check for the umpteenth time | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:22:35] <gwmngilfen> i have to ask :P | ||
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| [2011/12/09 17:22:49] <kenperkins> is there a way to evaluate puppet variables from the CLI | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:22:54] <kenperkins> just to make sure it's parsing as I expect | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:23:27] <kenperkins> https://gist.github.com/1454176 | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:23:31] <kenperkins> that's on my puppetmaster | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:23:52] <Callek> kenperkins: for evaluating vars for the CLI I usually use --noop + an inserted fail() to the manifests | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:24:17] <kenperkins> so as I can tell gwmngilfen yes the file is there | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:24:22] <Callek> kenperkins: or in the case of facter variables you can do |facter foo| | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:24:50] <kenperkins> rgr | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:24:56] <gwmngilfen> i see you're setting environment on both master and client. iirc that can cause weird issues... | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:25:15] <gwmngilfen> since you node will have mgmt set by the server and prod by the client | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:25:25] <kenperkins> eh? | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:25:31] <gwmngilfen> there's some docs about that somewhere | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:25:52] <kenperkins> I only set environment = .... once per puppet.conf | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:26:11] <kenperkins> now, I do set environment=mgmt on the puppetmasters puppet.conf, and environment=stage on a stage machine puppet.conf | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:26:37] <gwmngilfen> yeah, see #3910 about that | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:26:38] <gepetto> gwmngilfen: yeah: #3910 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/3910 "Puppet - Bug #3910: Server is not authoritative over client environment when specified in an ENC. It has a status of Accepted and is assigned to Nick Lewis" | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:26:44] <kenperkins> puppetmaster puppet.conf: https://gist.github.com/1454148 | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:26:58] <gwmngilfen> ah, wait, that might only be for enc's | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:27:08] <kenperkins> client puppet.conf: https://gist.github.com/1454151 | ||
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| [2011/12/09 17:28:12] <kenperkins> I don't understand :( | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:28:57] <gwmngilfen> i think i'm off on a https://gist.github.com/1454148 | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:29:04] <gwmngilfen> bleah, bad paste | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:29:07] <gwmngilfen> off on a tangent | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:29:35] <gwmngilfen> what's in your master logs when a client connects for the prod environment? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 17:30:56] <kenperkins> how do I proceed? I've basically hosed my production and stage puppet environments | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:31:03] <kenperkins> ok, well, I don't see anything in /var/log/puppet | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:31:12] <kenperkins> where else? I'm running through apache and passenger | ||
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| [2011/12/09 17:32:51] <gwmngilfen> my logs end up in /var/log/daemon.log on Debian | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:33:49] <kenperkins> here's all I see | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:33:51] <kenperkins> Dec 10 01:33:36 puppet puppet-master[1858]: Compiled catalog for web-01.chicago.il.private.stage.clpbrd.com in environment stage in 0.01 seconds | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:33:54] <kenperkins> 1 line :P | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:35:19] <gwmngilfen> i dont get a lot more tbh, but it was worth looking for errors | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:35:37] <kenperkins> well, except that the machine in test that works takes 3+ seconds to compile the catalog | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:35:38] <gwmngilfen> passenger logs will probably be in /var/log/apache2/other_vhosts.log btw | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:36:51] <gwmngilfen> you're starting to stump me. assuming your puppet code is in a VCS, I'd revert the latest commit until you can work out what broke :) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 17:41:17] <gwmngilfen> you could also try starting a second master on 8141 on the commandline (puppet master -v -d --trace --masterport 8141) and send your client to that instance (puppet agent -v --masterport 8141) and see if you get anything useful from the master | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:43:55] <kenperkins> hm | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:43:58] <kenperkins> we may be on to something! | ||
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| [2011/12/09 17:49:31] <gwmngilfen> kenperkins: do tell :) | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:49:39] <kenperkins> testing 1 sec | ||
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| [2011/12/09 17:50:47] <kenperkins> well it works for the alternate puppet master | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:50:50] <kenperkins> but not the main 1 | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:50:52] <kenperkins> ... wierd | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:51:04] <gwmngilfen> did you change anything in the config? | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:52:32] <kenperkins> nope | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:52:33] <kenperkins> wierd | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:52:35] <kenperkins> restarted apache | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:52:37] <kenperkins> works now | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:52:40] <kenperkins> wtf | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:53:10] <gwmngilfen> any change to the puppet config requires you to restart the master - i should have asked if you'd done that after re-ordering your manifests :) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 17:54:36] <gwmngilfen> glad you got it sorted anyway :) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 17:55:29] <kenperkins> I've never done that | ||
| [2011/12/09 17:55:35] <kenperkins> or do you mean puppet.conf | ||
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| [2011/12/09 17:59:34] <gwmngilfen> it *should* reparse puppet.conf. I usually kick it anyway, just in case | ||
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| [2011/12/09 19:05:11] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Downloading_Puppet (#132) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Downloading_Puppet?version=132 (by Matthaus Litteken) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 19:06:28] <Callek> 2.7.9 ????? | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:07:25] <Callek> if thats accurate http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/1/wiki/Release_Notes needs updating | ||
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| [2011/12/09 19:09:55] * Callek wishes he knew nick<->"real name" here | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:12:24] <stahnma> Callek: matthaus is haus | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:12:26] <stahnma> :) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 19:12:35] <Callek> stahnma: thanls | ||
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| [2011/12/09 19:13:18] <Callek> haus: is that wiki edit accurate (I -assume- it is) and do we have a git cset/release-notes/etc. to give me/us an idea of whats new in 2.7.9 over 2.7.8? | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:13:22] <stahnma> Callek: looks liek 2.7.9 hit today due to a regression in ruby 1.8.5 support | ||
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| [2011/12/09 19:14:01] <stahnma> Callek: I'll find out, I'm out of the office | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:14:29] <Callek> stahnma: no rush, I just have too much experience project-managing that I tend to notice/catch missing info when stuff like that happens :-) | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:14:58] * Callek doesn't have any production systems actually using puppet _yet_, but I am helping mozilla develop a production system on newer puppet :-) | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:15:52] <jforman> i've been trying to figure something out, perhaps i havent found the best practice, but how do i manage puppet.conf with puppet? it seems all the solutions get so far as pushing out a new puppet.conf, but when they go to restart the puppet agent daemon, it cant restart itself (because it's dead). is there a good way to handle this? | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:16:21] <jpalmer> what do you mean, because it's dead? | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:16:35] <stahnma> hmm, looks like the page has been reverted | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:16:37] <stahnma> I'm confused | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:17:01] <jforman> jpalmer: if i push out a new puppet.conf and subscribe the puppet daemon to this file, i see "Caught TERM; calling stop" but the daemon never gets restarted | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:17:12] <Callek> jforman: /etc/init.d/puppetd restart ? | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:17:32] <Callek> puppet |service| resources call stop/start explicitly I think | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:17:32] <jpalmer> jforman: hrm. what OS? | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:17:39] <jforman> jpalmer: ubuntu 11.10 | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:17:52] <jforman> Callek: like attach an exec calling that command to the puppet.conf File ? | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:17:54] * Callek defers to others then, my experience lies primarily in RHEL | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:18:12] <Callek> I -think- ubuntu does services slightly differently | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:18:17] <jpalmer> ahh, not familiar with ubuntu, but you may want to look into the 'service' type for the "has" paramatars. hasrestart and such | ||
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| [2011/12/09 19:18:23] <jforman> http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/7273 << this mirrors my current situation fairly closely | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:19:03] <jforman> jpalmer: i will dig into that | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:19:09] <jpalmer> jforman: not sure I can be of much more help than that. I run puppet agent via crontab. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 19:26:29] <jforman> jpalmer: you were right, hasrestart => true seems to have done the trick | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:26:38] <jforman> thanks! | ||
| [2011/12/09 19:27:35] <jpalmer> jforman: nice. good to know that works on ubuntu. | ||
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| [2011/12/09 20:31:32] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Downloading_Puppet (#133) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Downloading_Puppet?version=133 (by Matthaus Litteken) | ||
| [2011/12/09 20:32:51] @ haus set topic "Puppet Enterprise 2.0 is out: http://bit.ly/PE_2 | Important Security Announcement: http://bit.ly/AltNames | Puppet 2.7.9 and 2.6.12 available at downloads.puppetlabs.com | http://docs.puppetlabs.com | Bugs & Feature Requests http://bit.ly/dKVa0A | November Newsletter http://bit.ly/nl11-11" | ||
| [2011/12/09 20:34:59] <Callek> haus: Readme needs updating too | ||
| [2011/12/09 20:35:06] * Callek pointed that out before you joined again | ||
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| [2011/12/09 20:49:56] <haus> Callek: yup, i'm working on the release notes now | ||
| [2011/12/09 20:50:09] <Callek> great :-) | ||
| [2011/12/09 20:50:27] <haus> but yes, 2.7.9 is a bug fix from the regression in #11306 for ruby 1.8.5 | ||
| [2011/12/09 20:50:27] <gepetto> haus: #11306 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/11306 "Puppet - Bug #11306: puppet 2.7.8-1 bug under ruby 1.8.5/centos 5.7. It has a status of Merged - Pending Release and is assigned to Nick Lewis" | ||
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| [2011/12/09 20:52:41] * Callek wonders if there is an easier way to get to https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet/commit/234afdf based on the comment in the puppetlabs bug than having to load github directly | ||
| [2011/12/09 20:54:03] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Release_Notes (#154) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Release_Notes?version=154 (by Matthaus Litteken) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 21:00:21] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Release_Notes (#155) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Release_Notes?version=155 (by Matthaus Litteken) | ||
| [2011/12/09 21:00:21] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Release_Notes (#156) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Release_Notes?version=156 (by Matthaus Litteken) | ||
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| [2011/12/09 22:27:58] <freezey> so i just installed mcollective on ubuntu.. is "mco" supposed to come with it? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 23:57:08] <Callek> ...anyone know if its possible to execute a command on the _master_ (with puppet syntax) and use it as the content of a file transmitted to arbitrary nodes? | ||
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| [2011/12/09 23:57:25] <Callek> (my use case, is hg revision cset id) | ||
| [2011/12/09 23:57:33] <Callek> (of the puppet manifests themselves) | ||
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