Saturday, 2011-12-10

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[2011/12/10 00:00:06] <Callek> whack: thanks I missed that in my skim!
[2011/12/10 00:00:20] <whack> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/stable/function.html#generate <--
[2011/12/10 00:00:21] <whack> np :)
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[2011/12/10 03:24:39] <Majestic> hi, does anyone know if I can export a veriable and save it so I can keep adding values to it before I finally use it?
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[2011/12/10 05:05:29] <OMCK> hi, has somebody a clue if for puppet templates I can also provide a list of different locations on my puppet server where the puppet master server can look for them ? I know this is working for regular files with "source => [path1,path2,...]"
[2011/12/10 05:11:14] <Dominic> OMCK: it's an open issue, see #5158 etc. There might be a workaround with file() or something though.
[2011/12/10 05:11:15] <gepetto> Dominic: OMCK: #5158 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/5158 "Puppet - Feature #5158: File resources: Make source/content parameters and the file/template functions consistent.. It has a status of Needs Decision and is assigned to Nigel Kersten"
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[2011/12/10 05:16:55] <OMCK> thanks guys, will check the issue 5158
[2011/12/10 05:17:32] <OMCK> I mean thanks Dominic, gepetto seems to be a bot :)
[2011/12/10 05:17:44] <Dominic> heh indeed
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[2011/12/10 05:34:50] <mfridh> hmm, I don't like getting this everytime my puppet module restarts the puppet service: Caught TERM; calling stop
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[2011/12/10 05:51:48] <Majestic> mfridh: found the same issue - but generaly puppet configs dont change (clients/server) after its setup. When I install puppet - instead of letting daemon do it which ofc gets killed then stops everything, I just run puppet agent --test after puppet is installed. That tehn will pull the puppet configs etc you have over and you wont have the killed issue
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[2011/12/10 06:03:53] <mfridh> Majestic: I have a little plan for it now atleast. I don't want to do any manual things.
[2011/12/10 06:04:32] <Majestic> well you still need to install puppet initilly :)
[2011/12/10 06:04:58] <Majestic> so apt-get -y install puppet && puppet agent --test
[2011/12/10 06:05:03] <Majestic> whats so hard with that :)
[2011/12/10 06:05:04] <mfridh> yeah that's a simple rpm -Uvh http://my-repo/my-repo-package.rpm && yum install puppet && puppet agent -vt --report
[2011/12/10 06:05:26] <Majestic> yea
[2011/12/10 06:05:40] <Majestic> other option you could do is
[2011/12/10 06:05:57] <mfridh> I'm only talking about puppet restarting itself here, all the rest is covered in provisioning
[2011/12/10 06:06:05] <Majestic> instead of letting it restart puppet - get it to add an at job for say 5 mins time to then restart puppet
[2011/12/10 06:06:10] <Majestic> yea
[2011/12/10 06:06:38] <mfridh> what I'm going to do anyway, is; on configuration change, it will notify a "reload" exec. and on package upgrade it will notify an "at-now+1-minute" exec, just as you're saying
[2011/12/10 06:07:00] <mfridh> that at job will loop for maximum 90 seconds, to try to wait until puppet finishes, if it doesn't, forcibly restarts
[2011/12/10 06:07:01] <Majestic> when I first found the issue - I had to manauly go on 50 odd boxies and restart puppet :( - well clusterssh helped but even so lol annoying
[2011/12/10 06:07:11] <Majestic> yea exactly
[2011/12/10 06:09:19] <mfridh> kindof annoying now that I got 200 emails saying "Caught TERM" because I changed listen from true to false in puppet.conf :)
[2011/12/10 06:09:30] <mfridh> (god damn redhat kernel btw)
[2011/12/10 06:09:31] <Majestic> yea
[2011/12/10 06:09:31] <Majestic> lol
[2011/12/10 06:09:54] <Majestic> do rememver there is a puppetabs yum repo also you could use/add
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[2011/12/10 08:14:31] <Majestic> hi, does anyone have a fedora & redhat el systems handy which could give me the output of this command so I can code some more multi supports. facter operatingsystem
[2011/12/10 08:14:49] <Majestic> I expext Redhat either be written as that or RedHat
[2011/12/10 08:14:59] <Dominic> it's RedHat
[2011/12/10 08:15:00] <Majestic> which is it? thanks in advance
[2011/12/10 08:15:04] <Majestic> Thank you Dominic
[2011/12/10 08:15:19] <Majestic> I assume Fedora is just as that?
[2011/12/10 08:15:32] <Dominic> no, Fedora seems to be "Fedora"
[2011/12/10 08:15:38] <Majestic> thank you
[2011/12/10 08:16:12] <tremble> operatingsystem => RedHat
[2011/12/10 08:16:13] <tremble> operatingsystemrelease => 6.2
[2011/12/10 08:16:13] <tremble> osfamily => RedHat
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[2011/12/10 08:16:39] <Dominic> osfamily is probably better to use if it's available
[2011/12/10 08:16:53] <Majestic> ahh thanks
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[2011/12/10 08:17:07] <Majestic> thanks tremble also
[2011/12/10 08:17:39] <Majestic> osfamily would cut down my long checks lol
[2011/12/10 08:17:59] <Dominic> yeah, there are a lot of EL clones otherwise
[2011/12/10 08:18:18] <Majestic> its like: <% if scope.lookupvar('::operatingsystem') == "CentOS" || scope.lookupvar('::operatingsystem') == "Fedora" || scope.lookupvar('::operatingsystem') == "RedHat" then -%>
[2011/12/10 08:18:19] <Majestic> hehe
[2011/12/10 08:18:22] <Volcane> osfamily seems to be very new
[2011/12/10 08:18:26] <Majestic> right
[2011/12/10 08:18:34] <Volcane> or my centos box just dont have it
[2011/12/10 08:18:35] <Majestic> checking systems got hete see if its on
[2011/12/10 08:18:39] <Majestic> right
[2011/12/10 08:18:42] <Dominic> it is very new, not sure which release
[2011/12/10 08:19:04] <Dominic> 1.6.2
[2011/12/10 08:19:09] <tremble> It's there in facter-1.6.2-1.el6.noarch
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[2011/12/10 08:20:03] <Majestic> Volcane: CentOS 5.7 here on some of the boxies and osfamily is on there also - think its because I use puppetlabs yum repo
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[2011/12/10 08:20:23] <Volcane> if ["CentOS", "Fedora", "RedHat"].include?(scope.lookupvar('::operatingsystem'))
[2011/12/10 08:20:35] <Volcane> i am on 1.6.0 still it seems
[2011/12/10 08:20:39] <Majestic> Volcane: your kidding can make it smaller thats perfect :)
[2011/12/10 08:20:46] <Majestic> adjusting code thank you!
[2011/12/10 08:21:18] <Majestic> much easier to read ;)
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[2011/12/10 08:23:55] <Majestic> working perfect Volcane thank you. Much easier to read and code cheers for tip
[2011/12/10 08:25:59] <Majestic> almost finsihed me nagios inplmentation - most of it managed to use the inbuilt puppet stuff :) only the services im doing via erb template due to nrpe stuff - coulnt get services to work with nrpe with inbuilt stuff
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[2011/12/10 08:26:36] <Volcane> https://github.com/puppetlabs/facter/blob/6e3aacbd3334001a9b5a1163d63b410d6b375a2a/lib/facter/operatingsystem.rb#L52-66
[2011/12/10 08:27:27] <Volcane> and if you have those then OVS, OEL and Amazon is probably also fine eh
[2011/12/10 08:28:15] <Volcane> https://github.com/puppetlabs/facter/blob/6e3aacbd3334001a9b5a1163d63b410d6b375a2a/lib/facter/osfamily.rb doesnt have Ascendos :(
[2011/12/10 08:28:21] <Majestic> awww
[2011/12/10 08:28:54] <Volcane> oh it does, stupid me looking at a specific version
[2011/12/10 08:28:59] <Volcane> https://github.com/puppetlabs/facter/blob/master/lib/facter/osfamily.rb
[2011/12/10 08:29:26] <tremble> Volcane: Submit a patch, they don't bite.
[2011/12/10 08:31:22] <Volcane> who doesnt bite?
[2011/12/10 08:31:28] <misc> they
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[2011/12/10 08:33:35] <Majestic> hehe
[2011/12/10 08:36:53] <misc> b( but i agree that the whle "distribution" fact is rather unspecified, ie people make assumption they should not, and that's the same for python and lots of place )
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[2011/12/10 09:29:40] <ashp> http://www.usenix.org/events/lisa11/tech/full_papers/Herry.pdf cool paper
[2011/12/10 09:30:21] <lisa> that is relevant to my interests
[2011/12/10 09:30:29] <ashp> :D
[2011/12/10 09:31:05] <ashp> you'll be glad when lisa is over, I bet?
[2011/12/10 09:31:14] <lisa> yep
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[2011/12/10 09:31:34] <lisa> i need to fix my nick hilight. i thought it was working but i was missing things
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[2011/12/10 10:09:22] <ashp> Reading through this paper more
[2011/12/10 10:09:25] <ashp> makes me want this SO BAD
[2011/12/10 10:09:34] <ashp> puppetlabs should honestly sponsor something like this to add to puppet
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[2011/12/10 10:14:17] <tolland> is there shortcut to stop puppet logging to the /var/log/messages without making a change to the syslog config.
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[2011/12/10 10:21:37] <Dominic> tolland: there's an argument to the agent, logdest I think that you can set to the log file rather than the default of syslog
[2011/12/10 10:21:50] <haus> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/2.7.6/configuration.html#syslogfacility
[2011/12/10 10:22:01] <haus> and http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/2.7.6/configuration.html#logdir
[2011/12/10 10:22:20] <Dominic> facility would need a change to syslog still
[2011/12/10 10:23:35] <Dominic> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/man/agent.html # --logdest
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[2011/12/10 10:26:17] <haus> oh nice
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[2011/12/10 12:47:27] <patant> n
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[2011/12/10 13:15:22] <conner> is there a type for hostname setting?
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[2011/12/10 13:21:00] <|Majestic|> conner: you can find all the types here: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/2.7.6/type.html change the number to your version of puppet master
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[2011/12/10 13:21:39] <conner> |Majestic|, that is incorrect, the type reference is for built in types... I know there is not a built in type to do what I want to do
[2011/12/10 13:21:58] <conner> |Majestic|, i'm asking if anyone knows of a type to do hostname setting
[2011/12/10 13:22:35] <|Majestic|> conner: my applogies
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[2011/12/10 13:27:42] <jpalmer> conner: I've seen modules for it. but not sure if they included a 'type' specifically.
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[2011/12/10 13:29:13] <conner> jpalmer, there was a network mod someone posted once that's on github... i can't recallt he name thou
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[2011/12/10 13:40:14] <vanesa> olaaaaaa
[2011/12/10 13:40:21] <vanesa> km estan
[2011/12/10 13:40:23] <vanesa> ?
[2011/12/10 13:40:32] <vanesa> :)
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[2011/12/10 13:49:08] <vanesa> ustedes no hablan
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[2011/12/10 14:30:38] <|Majestic|> does anyone have some code for a location fact or can point me in the right direction on how this could be done. in short have multi datacenters and would like to add a fact to that fact (lol) so I can use this in other recpies
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[2011/12/10 14:32:20] <dissipate> |Majestic|, have you seen Hiera?
[2011/12/10 14:32:30] <|Majestic|> no I havent...
[2011/12/10 14:32:41] * |Majestic| goes googling..
[2011/12/10 14:32:58] <dissipate> |Majestic|, http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/hiera
[2011/12/10 14:33:13] <|Majestic|> awesome thanks - reading brb
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[2011/12/10 14:34:26] <|Majestic|> this looks perefct but its bye bye to all my extlookup stuff hehe
[2011/12/10 14:34:36] <|Majestic|> atm using csv
[2011/12/10 14:34:50] <Volcane> hiera has a extlookup2hiera script
[2011/12/10 14:34:53] <dissipate> |Majestic|, oh well. out with the old, in with the new.
[2011/12/10 14:35:00] <|Majestic|> hehehhe
[2011/12/10 14:35:01] <|Majestic|> yea
[2011/12/10 14:35:05] <|Majestic|> too right and thank you
[2011/12/10 14:35:08] <Volcane> anyway, hiera doesnt do what u want - you still need a location fact
[2011/12/10 14:35:17] <|Majestic|> right
[2011/12/10 14:35:27] <Volcane> and it depends how you do it - based on network address, some part in the hostname etc
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[2011/12/10 14:35:57] <|Majestic|> was thinking of a list of fqdn's which are in say an array of what dc/location they are located at
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[2011/12/10 14:36:28] <Volcane> sounds like a pain in the arse
[2011/12/10 14:36:33] <|Majestic|> too right
[2011/12/10 14:36:46] <|Majestic|> ooo..
[2011/12/10 14:36:48] <|Majestic|> actully
[2011/12/10 14:36:56] <|Majestic|> could do it via ip address ranges
[2011/12/10 14:38:18] <|Majestic|> Volcane: your brillaint - given me a few ideas.. could pull put the ip via facter ofc then compare it to a list of ranges to there dc's but still need a custom fact for that..
[2011/12/10 14:38:45] <Volcane> yeah but at least it needs less maintenance than a fqdn list
[2011/12/10 14:38:55] <|Majestic|> absoulty - stupid me
[2011/12/10 14:40:10] <|Majestic|> found some facter code I could bodge up :( and get it to run a shell script to do the checking as I cant ruby code yet..
[2011/12/10 14:41:10] <|Majestic|> not ideal though
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[2011/12/10 14:41:38] <|Majestic|> now if only facter support bash or perl I would be happy lol
[2011/12/10 14:42:02] <Volcane> |Majestic|: http://www.pastie.org/2997866
[2011/12/10 14:42:17] <Volcane> that kind of assumes a, b or c classes
[2011/12/10 14:42:18] <|Majestic|> Oh man thank you Volcane !
[2011/12/10 14:42:22] <Volcane> but its probably fine
[2011/12/10 14:42:26] <|Majestic|> yea thats fine
[2011/12/10 14:42:37] <|Majestic|> this is perfect!
[2011/12/10 14:42:40] <|Majestic|> owe ya!
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[2011/12/10 14:44:17] <|Majestic|> love the unknown if it doesnt match ;)
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[2011/12/10 14:44:31] <|Majestic|> right let me add this all in
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[2011/12/10 14:53:58] <|Majestic|> is there away I can test the new fact without like populating it to loads of machines using the pluginsync stuff
[2011/12/10 14:55:07] <Volcane> export FACTERLIB=/where/datacenter.rb/is/
[2011/12/10 14:55:15] <Volcane> FACTER_ipaddress=192.168.44.1 facter datacenter
[2011/12/10 14:55:33] <Volcane> that'll override the ipaddress with a different one
[2011/12/10 14:55:44] <|Majestic|> sweet thank you
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[2011/12/10 15:15:55] <tolland> id like to bring some servers under config management, at the moment they are running https/tomcat5/6/mysql, is there a tool to go and retireve the various configs from these servers and do something sensible to display them?
[2011/12/10 15:16:16] <tolland> some sort of auditing software would probably do it.
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[2011/12/10 15:38:46] <|Majestic|> Volcane: you there for a sec? hate to bother you..
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[2011/12/10 15:39:55] <the_ramink> tolland: when I was implementing Puppet for the first time I found it easier to build new servers and migrate. Part of that was unfamiliarity with Puppet and part was to destroy any machine that hadn't started it's life with proper config management. That said, checkout https://github.com/devstructure/blueprint#readme
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[2011/12/10 16:00:51] <|Majestic|> Volcane: sorted - couln't get the fact to display - found what I was doing wrong (location of fact) lol - lesson learned. Thank you again working perfectly. Now to finish me nagious stuff
[2011/12/10 16:01:08] <|Majestic|> nagios* cant type for midnight lol
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[2011/12/10 16:50:49] <zykes-> mfridh: here ?
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[2011/12/10 16:56:10] <mfridh> zykes-: yes
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[2011/12/10 16:58:47] <zykes-> mfridh: did you get to look at the pastes i gave you ?
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[2011/12/10 17:00:42] <mfridh> I've been fiddling with my client recently and moved windows around etc, lost scrollback.
[2011/12/10 17:00:51] <zykes-> ah
[2011/12/10 17:01:07] <zykes-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/764776/
[2011/12/10 17:01:27] <zykes-> though i fixed that, had a typo in the client
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[2011/12/10 17:01:50] <zykes-> ehm, puppet.conf, but now i keep getting 403 errors, might this mean that puppetmaster is not getting ssl headers ?
[2011/12/10 17:03:25] <mfridh> honestly, I don't remember. been ages since I had those problems :D
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[2011/12/10 17:03:39] <zykes-> :/
[2011/12/10 17:03:48] <zykes-> what can 403 errors come from ?
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[2011/12/10 17:04:28] <zykes-> http://pastebin.com/TcCukjrw is the logs from nginx
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[2011/12/10 17:07:12] <mfridh> did you do the ssl_client_header things?
[2011/12/10 17:07:27] <zykes-> yeah
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[2011/12/10 17:19:38] <zykes-> don't get it mfridh why it borks up, and nginx doesn't say anything smarter then 403
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[2011/12/10 17:45:52] <zykes-> hmmm, if my puppet master is giving 403's does it mean it's not getting ssl headers properly ?
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[2011/12/10 17:54:04] <haus> what do the logs say?
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[2011/12/10 18:31:29] <abstrakt> can puppet use the rackspace or amazon apis to create new VPS's
[2011/12/10 18:37:01] <nevyn> puppet enterprise 2.0 can..
[2011/12/10 18:41:25] <abstrakt> is there a "quick start" or is this http://docs.puppetlabs.com/learning/ it?
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[2011/12/10 22:36:11] <moepigal124h> http://bit.ly/uPBolO
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