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| [2011/12/15 00:01:01] <LeLutin> hello | ||
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| [2011/12/15 00:01:04] <dissipate_> NuclearLucifer, mea culpa, i missed the 'testing section' of that doc. | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:01:17] <dissipate_> hmm | ||
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| [2011/12/15 00:02:07] <NuclearLucifer> dissipate_, Basicly you need to set FACTERLIB to your custom fact directory, as kjetilho mentioned. | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:02:18] <LeLutin> I've just installed hiera with "gem installed hiera", and now puppet gives me an error about "no such file to load -- hiera". any hints? | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:02:35] <LeLutin> gem install (not installed... ) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 00:04:58] <dissipate_> NuclearLucifer, i ran the command: sudo puppetd -vt --pluginsync, which looks like it was successful in running the ruby script 'facter_dot_d', but i do not see the fact, and it is barfing on a template that needs that fact. :( | ||
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| [2011/12/15 00:07:42] <kjetilho> first make it run standalone dissipate_ | ||
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| [2011/12/15 00:07:49] <kjetilho> IMHO at least | ||
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| [2011/12/15 00:09:44] <dissipate_> kjetilho, did what you said. facter spit out facts, none of them are from the ruby script. :( | ||
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| [2011/12/15 00:11:33] <kjetilho> ok, that explains why Puppet didn't populate your fact either | ||
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| [2011/12/15 00:12:35] <dissipate_> oh wait, they are there! | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:12:45] <dissipate_> but they are lowercase. in my config file they were all uppercase! | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:13:51] <dissipate_> hot damn! wtf is going on. haha | ||
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| [2011/12/15 00:21:22] <konadr> hi all, i have an application that needs to be pulled from SVN, extracted and a config dropped in (probably from SVN) is the best way to do it to write a bash script and get puppet to execute it or is it better to do all the execs etc. in puppet? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 00:21:52] <kjetilho> konadr: check out vcsrepo module | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:22:24] <henk> konadr: IMHO building a package from it and installing that via puppet sounds cleanest… | ||
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| [2011/12/15 00:23:46] <konadr> thanks kjetilho henk :) that will help to give me a bit of focus for this morning | ||
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| [2011/12/15 00:26:40] <dissipate_> kjetilho, thanks for the tip on Facter. | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:26:54] <kjetilho> np | ||
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| [2011/12/15 00:35:17] <tcolgate> Hi all. I'm looking for a bit of assistance with win32 puppet. | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:36:02] <Callek> "don't do it"? | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:36:11] <tcolgate> All file transfers (including pluginsync) are failing with an error ending "Can't convert fixnum into string" | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:36:18] <Callek> seriously though, still very very early on win32 support | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:36:21] <Callek> whats your issue though | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:36:41] <Callek> and what version of puppet is sitting on the win32 machine | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:36:53] <Callek> lastly which version of windows | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:37:01] <Callek> (all of those questions are necessary here) | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:37:20] <tcolgate> It's a git download from yesterday (I couldn't find a zip of 2.7.9 which is what we are running on linux) | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:37:57] * Callek admits to not knowing how to install/setup from a git download, I usually use the ruby gem on windows | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:38:01] <tcolgate> it's windows 7, hopefully I'll be moving over 2008 r2 for more realistic testing soon, just waiting on a colleague to sort me a VM | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:38:02] <gepetto> tcolgate: r2 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/repositories/revision/puppet/2 "Revision 21be6e7e" | ||
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| [2011/12/15 00:38:30] <Callek> tcolgate: also note that w7 is not officially tested/supported on w2k3 and w2k8 are, at present | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:38:38] <Callek> s/on/only/ | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:39:04] <Callek> but still depending on your issue we might be able to help | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:39:14] <tcolgate> Callek, can I just do a gem install facter and gem install puppet? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 00:43:46] <Callek> top of my head, not sure (I'm not the one responsible for actually installing it on any win slaves atm), but I know it is installed via gem | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:44:12] <Callek> but what problem are you hitting; is it the actual install, or something to do with manifests? | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:44:40] <tcolgate> The instructions for win32 puppet said to do a ruby install.rb from a downloaded package. | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:44:58] <tcolgate> Nope, isntall goes fine, facter (and puppet) actually run fine. | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:45:14] <Callek> ahh ok, then whats the issue that brings you here? :-) | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:45:28] <tcolgate> The issue is when I have puppet download and isntalla file | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:46:04] <Callek> can you pastebin your manifest for the issue, and then separately any error message you are getting | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:46:14] <tcolgate> I get the same issue when doing a pluginsync, so it has something to do with writing files. | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:46:51] <tcolgate> I'll try, have to do it off of the windows box, might take me a few minutes. | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:47:44] <Callek> tcolgate: ahh problem writing files, sounds like either your puppet is configured to write to a protected system dir (such that you need UAC elevation for even if Administrator) or its just plain unable to write into a "different" directory | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:48:01] <Callek> which does sound like some sort of install/config issue, which sadly I have had no part of yet with windows | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:48:19] * Callek will have to defer you to someone else | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:49:33] <dissipate_> why doesn't puppet automatically do a pluginsync during a catalog run?? | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:49:42] <dissipate_> i have pluginsync=true in my puppet.conf | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:51:11] <tcolgate> http://pastebin.com/QFXhwJYr | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:51:15] <tcolgate> That's the error | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:51:37] <tcolgate> I'm running as cmd.exe as administrator | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:51:53] <tcolgate> What's odd is that, for my file, it does actually download and create the file. | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:52:05] <tcolgate> That doesn't happen for pluginsync though, no files get created. | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:52:41] <Callek> tcolgate: try a different folder, C:\ is protected on w7 | ||
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| [2011/12/15 00:53:15] <Callek> cmd.exe as administrator or cmd.exe as UAC elevated Administrator | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:53:49] <tcolgate> The module is http://pastebin.com/Hg50MmBb | ||
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| [2011/12/15 00:54:12] <tcolgate> Callek, I just created a shortcut to cmd.exe and did Run As administrator | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:55:05] <tcolgate> Callek, as I said, it does actually create the file (if I run as my plain old normal user then it can't create the file except for in places I am allowed to write to) | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:55:30] <Callek> ooo can't convert | ||
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| [2011/12/15 00:56:06] <tcolgate> Callek, perhaps if you can recommend a known-good revision I'll try that, and if that doesn't work, I'll wait 'til I can re-test on win2008 r2 | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:56:07] <gepetto> tcolgate: Callek: r2 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/repositories/revision/puppet/2 "Revision 21be6e7e" | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:56:10] <Callek> tcolgate: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/10586#note-2 | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:56:17] <jamesturnbull> rodjek: I should do a pass through the crappy user experience tickets and add them to puppet-lint really | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:56:25] <jamesturnbull> rodjek: it should be more than the style guide | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:56:26] <Callek> tcolgate: "This issue can be worked around by always specifying the owner and group. For example, you can set both to ‘Administrators’, or set the group to ‘Users’ depending on your security requirements." | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:57:49] <tcolgate> Callek, right, I can test that for my own files but... | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:58:04] <tcolgate> Callek, What about pluginsync? I can't specify a uid for that can i ? | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:58:16] <jamesturnbull> dissipate_: any error messages? | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:58:18] <Callek> sadly I know nothing about pluginsync (windows or otherwise) | ||
| [2011/12/15 00:58:23] * Callek will defer you to others for that | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:00:16] <dissipate_> jamesturnbull, err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: Failed to parse template apache2/proxy.conf.erb: Could not find valu | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:00:16] <dissipate_> e for 's3_webcircuits_results' at 25:/etc/puppet/modules/apache2/templates/proxy.conf.erb at /etc/puppet/modules/apache2/manifests/init.pp:55 | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:00:16] <dissipate_> on node ip-xx-xxx-xxx-xxx.us-west-1.compute.internal | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:00:16] <dissipate_> warning: Not using cache on failed catalog | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:00:17] <dissipate_> err: Could not retrieve catalog; skipping run | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:01:05] <dissipate_> this is what happens when the pluginsync is not run and the facter variables are not populated | ||
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| [2011/12/15 01:01:38] <jamesturnbull> dissipate_: and pluginsync is yes on both the client and the master? | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:02:02] <jamesturnbull> dissipate_: and you're not seeing any errors in the logs about the sync? the fact is being sync'ed? | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:02:30] <jamesturnbull> tcolgate: that could be #10614 | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:02:31] <gepetto> jamesturnbull: tcolgate: #10614 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/10614 "Puppet - Bug #10614: Should not manage or source metadata from files on non-NTFS volumes on Windows. It has a status of Closed and is assigned to Josh Cooper" | ||
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| [2011/12/15 01:03:24] <dissipate_> jamesturnbull, ahh, 'pluginsync' is not set to 'true' on the client. perhaps that is the problem? | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:03:35] <jamesturnbull> dissipate_: I'd say so | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:04:02] <dissipate_> pesky details. :O | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:04:16] <jamesturnbull> indeed :) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 01:04:36] <tcolgate> jamesfryman, I'll check what revision I'm using, I thought the github download link would be the latest | ||
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| [2011/12/15 01:05:41] <jamesturnbull> tcolgate: what is returned for puppet --version ? | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:06:07] <dissipate_> jamesturnbull, thanks for the heads up on that. | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:06:36] <tcolgate> jamesfryman, aha 2.7.7 | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:06:56] <tcolgate> jamesfryman, Not sure what has gone on there, I just found the tag for 2.7.9, so I'll give that a go. | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:08:16] <jamesturnbull> tcolgate: I'm also not jamesfryman :) | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:09:37] <tcolgate> oops, tab completion failed me :) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 01:19:08] <tcolgate> jamesturnbull, that's not fixed it sadly, perhaps it's a win7 thing. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 01:19:42] <jamesturnbull> tcolgate: it could be - can I get you to open a new ticket for me please? I know the support isn't tested in Win7 so that's a distinct possibility | ||
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| [2011/12/15 01:22:26] <tcolgate> jamesturnbull, will do, how do I go about that? | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:22:48] <jamesturnbull> tcolgate: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/issues/new | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:23:12] <dissipate_> jamesturnbull, how do you have time to be in here? aren't you writing another book? =D | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:23:29] <jamesturnbull> tcolgate: you'll need to create an account and select a category of windows - the more log output/traces/data etc the better please :) | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:23:40] <jamesturnbull> dissipate_: I am actually not James - I am one of his many clones | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:23:49] <dissipate_> clones?? | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:24:03] <jamesturnbull> dissipate_: yeah the bastard cloned himself so he can sleep whilst we work ... :P | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:24:15] <dissipate_> wow. james wrote a puppet manifest to clone himself! | ||
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| [2011/12/15 01:25:02] <tcolgate> jamesturnbull, ok, will do, I'll test on 2008r2 first. | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:25:10] <jamesturnbull> thanks - that'd be awesome | ||
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| [2011/12/15 01:54:31] <tcolgate> jamesturnbull, FWIW http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/11408 seems to be the same issue I'm having | ||
| [2011/12/15 01:54:50] <jamesturnbull> tcolgate: cool - updating that tickert would be great then | ||
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| [2011/12/15 02:00:48] <rodjek> jamesturnbull: feel free to assign any you find to me | ||
| [2011/12/15 02:01:04] <rodjek> (ux tickets that could be handled in lint) | ||
| [2011/12/15 02:02:35] <jamesturnbull> rodjek: will do - I've added it to the never-ending TODO list | ||
| [2011/12/15 02:02:51] <rodjek> haha, i have one of those lists too | ||
| [2011/12/15 02:02:52] <jamesturnbull> rodjek: and bow hunting? I presume on George St during rush hour? | ||
| [2011/12/15 02:03:10] <rodjek> everyone's gotta have a hobby | ||
| [2011/12/15 02:03:22] <jamesturnbull> indeed | ||
| [2011/12/15 02:03:47] <rodjek> besides, have you seen the tools on george st these days? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 02:29:14] <matti> jamesturnbull: Hey Mister. | ||
| [2011/12/15 02:29:14] <matti> ;] | ||
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| [2011/12/15 02:51:40] <jamesturnbull> rodjek: you might want to post that question to the puppet-user list - i.e. what would people like to lint check for and gte people to log some issues and we cn hammer them out | ||
| [2011/12/15 02:51:52] <jamesturnbull> matti: hey - about to go to sleep - so later :) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 02:54:26] <matti> jamesturnbull: Sleep tight :) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 02:55:27] <tcolgate> jamesturnbull, updated that ticket, though I can't really add much more than what is in there. | ||
| [2011/12/15 02:55:54] <jamesturnbull> tcolgate: no that's good - happy was pretty comprehensive | ||
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| [2011/12/15 02:56:56] <tcolgate> I do also notice that when owner and group are specified things work, but the "mode" gets changed every time I apply the policy | ||
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| [2011/12/15 02:57:19] <tcolgate> it's not really clear what mode would mean on windows I suppose. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 02:59:54] <jamesturnbull> tcolgate: if you have an opinion on that - what mode means - please feel free to throw it into the ticket | ||
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| [2011/12/15 03:13:16] <happymcplaksin> tcolgate: Is Puppet fairly slow on your Windows box? It's pretty slow for me. It's a play install so it's possible somebody (like me!) has hosed something unrelated to Puppet but figured I'd ask :) | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:14:35] <tcolgate> yeah, I've assumed its the ruby boot up as the timing given at the end of the run is about .5 seconds | ||
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| [2011/12/15 03:15:28] <tcolgate> It's the first time I've run it, on any ruby (or very much of anything at all) on windows, so I didn't really know how fast it should run anyway | ||
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| [2011/12/15 03:18:14] <happymcplaksin> .5 seconds is fast compared to what I'm seeing. Just running 'puppet apply test.pp' with a single file resource takes at least a minute | ||
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| [2011/12/15 03:19:24] <happymcplaksin> sometimes it's faster than a minute but still pretty slow | ||
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| [2011/12/15 03:21:07] <Volcane> its a small file? or some huge file? | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:21:13] <Volcane> or just like /tmp/foo? | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:21:25] <tcolgate> happymcplaksin, when I said 0.5 sec I meant that's what puppet reports for the run... it actually takes ages. | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:22:37] <happymcplaksin> tcolgate: oh, heh! | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:22:38] <konadr> hi all, how would I use a class with a variable e.g. I have a class to create a dir, but want to pass it a system name? | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:22:41] <happymcplaksin> Volcane: it's content => 'hi there' :) | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:23:31] <tcolgate> happymcplaksin, I just did another tun and it took about 16 secs on the wall clock, but puppet reports 0.19 seconds. | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:23:57] <happymcplaksin> tcolgate: I guess it's what you said, Ruby/Puppet ramping up and then it's very quick to run the catalog (I think that's the time you're seeing) | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:25:14] <tcolgate> The file I'm transferring is only 55 bytes or so. | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:29:19] <happymcplaksin> could be facter's "fault"--it takes about 15 seconds for facter to run | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:29:48] <happymcplaksin> I just added a few more details to #11408. I'm off to get the kids to school...back around 8am eastern | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:29:49] <gepetto> happymcplaksin: #11408 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/11408 "Puppet - Bug #11408: Windows: "Could not evaluate: can't convert Fixnum into String". It has a status of Unreviewed and is assigned to -" | ||
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| [2011/12/15 03:43:23] <tyska> guys | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:43:28] <tyska> i need help | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:43:34] <tyska> in a architecture master/agent | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:44:04] <tyska> i did the ca request with the agent | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:44:50] <tyska> and sign with the master | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:45:05] <tyska> but now im getting the following error to get the catalog with the agent | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:45:07] <tyska> err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: SSL_connect returned=1 errno=0 state=SSLv3 read server certificate B: certificate verify failed. This is often because the time is out of sync on the server or clien | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:45:31] <henk> tyska: IRC can take complete sentences in one line. Please make use of that feature. Only getting a few words at a time is pretty annoying… | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:45:45] <henk> tyska: And did you not have that problem yesterday already? | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:46:34] <tyska> henk: ok, sorry | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:46:46] <henk> no, i guess that was someone else… Look at your certificates and check what fails about the verification. | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:47:12] <tyska> henk: yesterday i did not get to install puppet properly | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:47:33] <tyska> henk: now i already have the master and one agent working | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:47:38] <Volcane> tyska: you read the error message and verified the things it tells you to? | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:48:07] <tyska> Volcane: yeah, the dates are out of sync, then i fix it, but the error remains | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:48:17] <tyska> was out of sync* | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:48:28] <Volcane> then u have to delete the certificates and start fresh | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:48:42] <tyska> Volcane: ok, but how i delete ca? | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:49:01] <tyska> where they are? | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:49:09] <henk> Volcane: He _has to_? There simply is no other way? Hard to believe… | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:49:54] <molven> It't the easy way out, at least. | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:49:59] <Volcane> henk: well the certs exist with the dates, so you cant edit a cert once it exist, what other options would there be? | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:50:10] <tyska> how can i delete the ca's? | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:50:12] <Volcane> henk: other than wait for this date to come thats in teh cert :) | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:50:26] <tyska> delete the ca's is a good option to me | ||
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| [2011/12/15 03:50:48] <henk> Volcane: Dates are not the only reason verification can fail for, or is it? | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:50:58] <Volcane> henk: he did say his clocks were out of sync. | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:51:11] <tyska> henk: in my case probably is the reason | ||
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| [2011/12/15 03:51:52] <tyska> guys, just tell me how to delete the ca's, puppet certificate list just list the requests, and puppet certificate destroy requires a name or location, but i dont know the names neither location | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:51:54] <henk> Volcane: Yes, and that’s fixed and the problem is still there. Doesn’t that mean that it was not related to the clock? | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:52:26] <Volcane> henk: its only fixed once the old certs are deleted isnt it? puppet doesnt make new certs when ones already exist | ||
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| [2011/12/15 03:52:54] <Volcane> henk: so you have to delete the incorrectl created cert and re-request with the correct date | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:52:55] <henk> i.e.: yes, it might be the date in the cert but perhaps it’s just a naming problem? He connects his clients to foo.bar.tld while the masters cert is for puppet.bar.tld? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 03:54:05] <henk> Volcane: Time out of sync and validity date in cert not reached are two different problems, aren’t they? When the time is off just a few hours it won’t affect the certs validity too much, but the connection will still not work AFAIK. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 03:54:41] <tyska> ok, lets just try to destroy the ca's and recreate them | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:54:42] <Volcane> sigh whatever | ||
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| [2011/12/15 03:55:06] <tyska> but how can i destroy them? | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:55:13] <Volcane> cert 1 second out is a problem, if one cert says its valid from 10:00:01 and its not 10:00:00 acording to the place thats verifying the cert its not valid | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:55:29] <Volcane> there now "won't affect it too much" its boolean | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:55:52] <tyska> Volcane: please, how can i destroy the certificates? | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:56:31] <Volcane> tyska: rm the files in puppet var dir | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:57:01] <Volcane> tyska: but depending on what clock was wrong you might only need to do it on your agent not the ca | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:57:04] <tyska> Volcane: you mean /var/lib/puppet? | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:57:26] <tyska> Volcane: the clock was wrong in the agents | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:57:33] <Volcane> how wrong? | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:57:34] <henk> Volcane: That’s not my point, but yeah: whatever… Thanks anyway | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:57:51] <tyska> two hours | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:57:58] <Volcane> ahead? | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:58:07] <tyska> late | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:58:14] <tyska> master 9h agent 7h | ||
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| [2011/12/15 03:59:11] <Volcane> k, well now that its fixed, do 'puppet cert -c your.agent.fqdn' | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:59:22] <Volcane> then on the agent rm -rf /var/lib/puppet/ssl after first stopping the agent | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:59:37] <Volcane> redo the cert, if it still complains about validation when you know it wasnt due to clocks and something else | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:59:46] <tyska> puppet cert -c ... in the master right? | ||
| [2011/12/15 03:59:58] <Volcane> yes | ||
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| [2011/12/15 04:01:11] <tyska> i will be right back | ||
| [2011/12/15 04:02:41] <tyska> It works! | ||
| [2011/12/15 04:02:45] <tyska> thansk Volcane | ||
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| [2011/12/15 04:03:02] <tyska> thanks henk | ||
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| [2011/12/15 05:27:18] <robinbowes> When you get a dependency cycle, does => mean "is before"? | ||
| [2011/12/15 05:27:23] <robinbowes> eg. File[/etc/yum.conf] => Service[jbossas] | ||
| [2011/12/15 05:27:43] <robinbowes> ie. /etc/yum.conf is before the jbossas service? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 05:28:49] <walkeran> robinbowes: you should be using ->, not => ... but the order works like: Foo['before'] -> Foo['after'] | ||
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| [2011/12/15 05:30:11] <walkeran> I just try to remember that the order in which the resources are applied follows the direction of the arrow | ||
| [2011/12/15 05:30:19] <robinbowes> No, this is the output from puppet telling me I have a circular dependency | ||
| [2011/12/15 05:30:32] <walkeran> Oh, I see what you are saying. I guess I'm not quite sure, then :) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 05:44:14] <robinbowes> Hmm | ||
| [2011/12/15 05:44:21] <robinbowes> I found my dependency... | ||
| [2011/12/15 05:44:39] <robinbowes> I want to apply my yum class first, ie. in stage1 | ||
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| [2011/12/15 05:45:21] <robinbowes> The class requests that files are owned by root | ||
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| [2011/12/15 05:46:14] <robinbowes> puppet generates a User[root] => File[/etc/yum.conf] dependency | ||
| [2011/12/15 05:46:33] <robinbowes> and also a File[/etc/yum.conf] => User[root] | ||
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| [2011/12/15 05:48:56] <Evolution> is it possible to set extended attributes via puppet without shelling out to setfacl? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 06:03:45] <robinbowes> Evolution: did you check the docs for the file resource type? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 06:06:22] <Evolution> robinbowes: yes. I'm looking at http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/2.7.0/type.html#file right now. I can set owner, group, permissions, etc and selinux bits etc. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 06:06:36] <Evolution> but I didn't see setfacl style xattr options. | ||
| [2011/12/15 06:06:45] <Evolution> unless I'm missing something. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 06:09:20] <robinbowes> I would guess not | ||
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| [2011/12/15 06:35:39] <mzi> Evolution: see http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/1033 | ||
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| [2011/12/15 06:48:14] <Evolution> mzi: thanks! | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:04:01] <tyska> guys, i have master/agent puppet installed and working properly | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:04:24] <tyska> i can create manifests, and then if i run puppet agent --test in the agents, the rules in the manifests area aplied | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:05:48] <tyska> until here ok, everything is fine. Im wondering if there is a way to execute a command in the master, that applly the rules in the manifests in the agents without the need to run the commands in the agents | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:06:09] <tyska> someone understood and know if it its possible? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:08:23] <zacs> tyska: look at mcollective for that kind of thing | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:24:32] <mzi> tyska: is it for validation? there is some work done to do unit testing of puppet manifests | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:25:32] <henk> tyska: Most people run puppet agent either as a daemon or in regular intervals using cron. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:26:39] <mzi> depending of what you want to achive, you can dry-run the agent as well. | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:26:39] <mzi> achieve | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:27:30] <tyska> henk: how often the daemon checks the master server by default? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:28:05] <mzi> every 30 min | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:33:35] <keymone> hi | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:34:03] <keymone> i have a problem - agent stopped getting configuration from master | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:34:27] <keymone> it works when i purge everything puppet related and reinstall it | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:35:14] <mzi> it happened on older versions for me as well, try 'touch /path/to/puppet/site.pp' next time as a work around | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:35:18] <keymone> and after that it just hangs after "debug: Loaded state in 0.01 seconds" | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:35:35] <tyska> but guys, for example, in the case i have 20 servers, and i am installing some packages, i need to write the manifest and instantly apply the manifest to the clients | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:35:38] <Evolution> keymone: whav version/distro? | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:35:42] <Evolution> er what even. | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:36:13] <keymone> Evolution: 2.7.1 / debian master and debian agent | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:36:19] <tyska> i dont wanna wait 30 min, or 5 min, and wanna do instantly, there is some command i can run in the master to apply the manifest instantly? | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:36:24] <mzi> tyska: puppet-kick is your friend | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:36:31] <tyska> \o/ | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:36:37] <Evolution> oh, no idea. | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:36:52] <tyska> mzi: but it comes with the puppet package? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:37:09] <henk> tyska: Got an example where you _need_ that? Or is that more of an “but I WANT”? | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:37:13] <tyska> because my master server doesn't has this puppet-kick | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:37:22] <tyska> henk: i really need | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:37:59] <tyska> henk: because im installing and configuring a lot of things in my cloud, and i cant wait until the daemon or the cron to get the manifest | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:38:07] <mzi> keymone: disregard my tip, it was when agents didn\t relize that new config was available | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:38:37] <rocket> tyska: you need to look into the mcollective provisioner or devco.net | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:38:49] <keymone> mzi: mkay, any way to get more debug then --debug? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:39:02] <tyska> rocket: mcollective is a part of puppet or it is another package? | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:39:23] <rocket> puppet owns the software now but its a separate tool | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:39:37] <rocket> tyska: look up youtube videos on mcollective | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:39:47] <henk> tyska: So much text and yet no answer to my question… | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:40:05] <rocket> tyska: it will take some work to setup the infrastructure but in a cloud environment its totally worth it | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:40:35] * henk can barely see through all the clouds in here | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:40:46] <mzi> tyska: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/man/kick.html | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:41:11] <tyska> henk: my example is that i have 4 servers (now, in the future i will have more) and i need to install and put a lot of packages all the time at beginning | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:41:17] <mzi> rocket: mc solves another problem then the one tyska is trying to solve. | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:41:32] <tyska> henk: i need the manifests applied in real time | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:41:55] <henk> tyska: This example is missing the example. | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:42:15] <rocket> mzi: it does indeed do more than just what he is trying to do | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:42:22] <henk> tyska: You are just repeating “I need” over and over as if reassuring yourself that you really need it… | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:42:53] <mzi> tyska: with four servers you could use a simple tool as concurrent/cluster ssh | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:43:21] <tyska> henk: do you have some point that says i do not need? | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:44:40] <henk> tyska: I’m just trying to prevent people from overengineering their solutions when they already feel “pain” with setting up puppet… Keep It Small and Simple. But do whatever you like… | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:46:17] <tyska> henk: np, and im just trying to understand what you are thinking, because i 'think' i need it, but i dont have sure | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:46:18] <henk> tyska: And my point is probably: most changes are not that urgent that they can’t wait an hour or even a few… | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:46:51] <mzi> ... and if you need it, you can always 'kick' | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:47:25] <tyska> mzi: kick really needs LDAP? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:48:07] <mzi> tyska: no | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:48:09] <tyska> henk: the problem is im setting up all infrastructure, and i have to install many packages, and send many files to the servers, then i need to test them, and resend the files and go on... | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:48:39] <mzi> tyska: that dosen't sound production like to me :) | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:48:44] <tyska> henk: then if for each package or file i need to install or create, i need to wait 5 min, in 10 new manifests i will lose 50 minutes | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:49:54] <bello> ciao | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:49:55] <tyska> mzi: it is not production yet, im still setting the things up to put they in production later | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:49:57] <bello> !list | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:50:16] <bello> !list | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:50:43] <rocket> tyska: a simple clusterssh like tool or puppet kick will work for immediate very easy testing etc | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:51:09] <rocket> tyska: I made an assumption your cloud environment was more complex. | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:51:21] <tyska> rocket: thats good to me, i like the idea of henk of keep the things simple | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:51:36] <mzi> and if it was, you should probably start with unittesting now and not later. | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:52:10] <tyska> rocket: im still setting up my cloud with eucalyptus, in fact, im installing (and learning to use) puppet to install eucalyptus later, and manage the cloud after eucalyptus is installed | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:52:16] <mzi> well, that's allways a good idea | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:53:06] <henk> tyska: Ah, yeah, for testing having something like puppet kick is definitely worthwhile! I don’t like the idea of having every one of my servers listen for puppet kick commands though, so I’d rather go with the cluster ssh solution and just start an agent run… | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:53:23] <rocket> tyska: I would be careful with eucalyptus, I have heard from more than one person that it doesnt scale etc. This is second hand information but just thought you should be aware before too much investment is made. | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:53:56] <keymone> so on one server when i do puppet reload i see Caught HUP; calling restart and then Restarting with 'blah blah my ruby' | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:54:09] <tyska> rocket: thanks for the tip | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:54:11] <mzi> tyska: you could also integrate puppet into your normal deploy process. | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:54:18] <keymone> on the other one i only see Caught HUP; caling restart and then nothing | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:54:48] <keymone> any ideas? anyone? | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:54:53] <tyska> rocket: and did you heard about another cloud platform that is preferable than eucalyptus? | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:55:00] <mzi> so when you run the agent at the same time as you deploy your code | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:55:19] <rocket> look into cloudstack or openstack | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:55:19] <henk> keymone: paste? | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:55:25] <tyska> mzi: yeah, i really wanna do this later, but im still learning the very basic things about puppet | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:55:26] <mzi> tyska: ec2 | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:55:34] <rocket> or ec2 etc | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:55:39] <keymone> henk: what do you want me to paste? | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:55:47] <rocket> though ec2 can get expensive if your not careful | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:55:51] <tyska> mzi: amazon ec2? | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:55:58] <rocket> yes | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:56:07] <tyska> but ec2 is a public cloud | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:56:20] <tyska> and im creating a private cloud here | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:56:22] <mzi> that's what eucalyptus is trying to mimic, if i'm not missinformed. | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:56:28] <ashp> Hmm, anyone else use modulepath's like modules/production:modules/common with the idea of overriding in production and falling back to common if those don't exist? | ||
| [2011/12/15 08:56:29] <mzi> bingo | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:58:57] <tyska> henk: there is some special reasons you dont like your servers listen for puppet kick? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 08:59:58] <keymone> henk: http://pastebin.com/Bf82px22 | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:00:28] <keymone> that's where it stucks and does nothing afterwards | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:01:11] <henk> tyska: I don’t use it and every port that’s open and not used is an unnecessary potential security issue. That’s all. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:05:41] @ Topic is "Puppet Enterprise 2.0 is out: http://bit.ly/PE_2 | Important Security Announcement: http://bit.ly/AltNames | Puppet 2.7.9 and 2.6.13 available at downloads.puppetlabs.com | http://docs.puppetlabs.com | Bugs & Feature Requests http://bit.ly/dKVa0A | November Newsletter http://bit.ly/nl11-11" | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:05:41] @ Topic set by haus!haus@reaver.cat.pdx.edu on Mon Dec 12 16:15:36 -0800 2011 | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:06:54] <keymone> henk: ok, i'll try | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:07:10] <henk> tyska: And one of the most basic principles on how to secure any system connected to a network, be it switch, router, server, or whatever :) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:12:48] <keymone> last thing before it gets to regular loop of select/clock_gettime is | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:12:53] <keymone> stat64("/var/lib/puppet/state/puppetdlock", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=5, ...}) = 0 | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:13:36] <ashp> Argghhhh | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:13:37] <ashp> err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: Exported resource Mysql::Rights[puppetmaster] cannot override local resource on node per5-ops-mysql1.sys.perimeterusa.com | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:13:45] <ashp> I don't have a local resource on that node for that :( | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:13:56] <ashp> time to grub in the database | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:19:52] <jMCg> Hello happy people o/~ | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:21:23] <jMCg> I have a series of very well defined tasks which lead to installing a VM. I'd like put those in a puppet.. script to automate it. What's a recommendation where to start? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:21:47] <jsm> jMCg: what kind of tasks ? | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:22:05] <jsm> and what do you mean by installing a vm? | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:22:07] <henk> jsm: At the left? | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:23:16] <henk> uhm s/jsm/jMCg/ sorry | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:23:32] <jMCg> jsm: create a couple of LVM partitions, format them, mount, extract stuff; copy a couple of config files; umount; That's it, sort of. That's the tedious part, not sure in how far the other parts (assign/configure IPs) can be automated. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:23:52] <jMCg> henk: Okay, so, create a couple of LVM partitons. That's left. | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:24:00] <jsm> jMCg: well, i would say you are using the wrong tool for the job | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:24:11] <jsm> jMCg: that seems like more of a cobbler thing | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:24:58] <jsm> i use cobbler to build my vm's, and bootstrap them with puppet | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:25:01] <jsm> and then puppet does the rest | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:25:13] <jsm> it's much a cleaner approach | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:25:40] <ashp> Oh this is so weird | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:25:54] <ashp> I have a local resource for this Mysql::Rights statement on my mysql box | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:26:02] <ashp> yet the only mysql::rights I have are exported resources that get collected | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:26:04] <ashp> what on earth :( | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:26:31] <henk> jMCg: ok :) | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:26:33] <jMCg> jsm: ACK. | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:27:29] <jsm> jMCg: ack? | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:27:50] <jMCg> jsm: http://catb.org/jargon/html/A/ACK.html | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:28:24] <jsm> jMCg: so is that 1,2,3, or 4 ? :) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:30:32] <jMCg> jsm: yes. One of those. (Haven't read the def. in quite a while :) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:30:49] <jMCg> jsm: 4. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:31:17] <robinbowes> jsm...sounds too much like jism for my liking | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:32:22] <jsm> jMCg: in general i would think about your process first.... change it if you can, may save you down the road. if you can't change it, then i'd do something like this | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:33:04] <jsm> you're vm's would be created via a defined resource | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:33:21] <jsm> the defined resource would create all the necessary pieces | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:33:33] <jsm> you could have separate modules/classes for each type of thing | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:33:55] <jsm> lvm, etc | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:36:14] <jMCg> hrrm. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:36:35] <jMCg> Four years of working at my now former company have made me.. rusty. | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:36:55] <jMCg> I seem to have missed out a lot of goodies of the DevOps movement. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:37:59] * jMCg off now, bbl. o/~ - Thanks so far | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:39:50] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Anchor_Pattern (#6) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Anchor_Pattern?version=6 (by Jeff McCune) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:48:55] <aricg> best way to install puppet-dashboard on centos 5.x Its not in the repo... http://yum.puppetlabs.com/el/5Server/products/x86_64/ | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:51:04] <the_ramink> aricg: dashboard 1.2.x requires ruby 1.8.,7 wheras rhel 5.x ships 1.8.5 | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:52:05] <aricg> the_ramink, crud. | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:53:35] <aricg> the_ramink, thanks. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:53:50] <datenzecke> Hi I got a small(?) question. Are there Recommendations for comment blocks of .pp files? | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:54:26] <datenzecke> I'm new to puppet. Before writing and modifying tons of source code to get my environment up and running, it would be nice to hear if there are any recommendations regarding the format of | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:54:31] <datenzecke> a) comment blocks to document classes and files | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:54:34] <datenzecke> b) comment blocks to document other stuff (e.g. defines) | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:54:37] <datenzecke> c) "#" vs "/* */" for multi-line comments | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:54:58] <datenzecke> I'm asking because there might be some kind of standard and/or tools to parse the source code of .pp files to generate Docs for the puppet modules I'm going to write. | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:55:05] <the_ramink> aricg: np, simplest solution is move it to 6. Else you can find 1.8.7 rpms for 5.x, but you'll have to build Passenger around the new Ruby you'll installed. | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:55:47] <tyska> guys | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:55:50] <datenzecke> Or is RDoc (cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RDoc ) the format one would use (because Puppet is written in Ruby)? If so, are there any existing RDoc comment header templates/examples to get a quick start? | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:56:11] <tyska> to do a exec resource run the command once, i need to use the atribute creates, thats it? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:56:42] <nfagerlund> datenzecke: Yes, if you have Rdoc-formatted text blocks before your classes, you can use the `puppet doc` tool to generate HTML documentation. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:57:06] <nfagerlund> datenzecke: there's more info here: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Puppet_Manifest_Documentation -- It's the wiki so it's a little stale, but I think this stuff is still accurate. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:57:39] <the_ramink> tyska: you can also use unless => and onlyif => to check for other conditions too. | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:57:44] <nfagerlund> datenzecke: Generating the docs is a bit finicky, but some trial and error will get you there. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:58:31] <datenzecke> nfagerlund: thanks :-). Don't know how I missed this wiki page! | ||
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| [2011/12/15 09:58:50] <tyska> the_ramink: but what is the best option? the most simple? | ||
| [2011/12/15 09:58:57] <nfagerlund> datenzecke: It'll get pulled into the main docs and made easier to find... eventually! | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:00:15] <the_ramink> tyska: depends. :) Does your exec create a file? Then yes. If it does "echo fuse >> /etc/modules" then the file already exists and you'll need to use another method. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:01:06] <datenzecke> nfagerlund: :-) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:02:21] <tyska> the_ramink: my command does not create a file | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:02:57] <the_ramink> tyska: then you'll probably want to look at onlyif or unless and possibly refreshonly http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/stable/type.html#exec | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:04:26] <henk> tyska: Please read this document: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html It will help you help us help you solve your problems more efficiently. Thank you. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:07:33] <datenzecke> One more thing: does anybody know if the puppet-users Google group has some kind of moderation queue? | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:07:46] <datenzecke> I subscribed with a non-google mail address and do receive messages since then. So far so good. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:07:54] <datenzecke> Yesterday, I sent a mail to the list. It was not declined. But it still does not appear after ~24h now (at least on web ui at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users ) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:09:53] <villovil> I am trying to use augeas type in puppet 2.7.6 to edit Apache2 files (default-ssl to be exact) but I get "error sending command 'ins'...". Basically the insert command is failing. I know the apache2 lens was not in augtool before the latest version. so I am trying to figure out if apache2 lens is in the version bundleed with this version of puppet | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:11:17] <jokajak> villovil: puppet doesn't bundle augeas lenses | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:12:17] <villovil> sorry I am very new to puppet and just finding out features as I Google around the web | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:12:56] <Dominic> villovil: jokajak's spot on. To add to it, you can't just pull the lens for httpd back to an older version of Augeas, it relies on features added in the same version it was included in. | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:12:57] <villovil> is there somewhere that I can find additional lenses and how to add them | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:13:33] <Dominic> though the httpd lens is available since augeas 0.8.0 which has been out since Feb | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:14:33] <tyska> henk: im sorry bothering you =/ | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:14:35] <jokajak> villovil: you can add lenses to wherever the others ones are | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:15:09] <villovil> when I first tried to work with .8.0 apache2 lens did not show but after i updated to .10 (I think) it worked | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:15:37] <Dominic> bug fixes perhaps | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:16:06] <Dominic> if augeas is at least 0.8.0, then you could try using the 0.10.0 lens depending on where the issue lies | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:16:40] <henk> tyska: You aren’t. I just really think it would help you. | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:17:11] <villovil> ok. Is there a site/repo somewhere with lenses or better yet which folder on the server is the lens stored. I could move it from the server that is working | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:17:40] <mao> hello all. i just had someone blow away the ssl dir on my master! | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:17:43] <Dominic> villovil: look at the package contents, it'll depend on the distro/packaging. Probably /usr/share or something similar. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:17:56] <villovil> ok thanks | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:18:18] <villovil> I will going hunting :) | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:19:04] <mao> i thought i had recreated everything correctly, but now i'm getting this error on clients after signing new certs: | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:19:05] <mao> err: Could not request certificate: Neither PUB key nor PRIV key:: header too long | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:19:40] <mao> any ideas as to what could be going on? | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:23:02] <matchaw_> hi, when having multiple masters how can you push the yaml facts to a central master? i.e where dashboard is located? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:24:20] <matchaw_> ah, is this what the inventory service is for perhaps... | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:24:32] <matchaw_> as the yaml cache is purely local to the master.. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:27:57] <jokajak> is it possible to create variables within a .erb template that are local to the template? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:43:42] <pll> I'm having problems with passenger/apache crashing when I run puppet agent -vt --ignorecache | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:44:21] <pll> The only thing I see in any of the logs is: [warn] RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) `puppet.foo.com' does NOT match server name!? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:45:46] <pll> I'm actually running the client on the puppetmaster as well. Is that problematic ? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:46:08] <jbaldridge> no | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:46:18] <pll> Could it be that | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:46:37] <pll> 'puppet.foo.com' is a CNAME for 'actual_name.foo.com' | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:46:47] <pll> and the client is connecting using it's actual hostname ? | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:46:52] <jbaldridge> are you explicitly setting your puppetmaster somewhere? | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:47:27] <pll> my puppet.conf has 'agent = puppet.foo.com' | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:47:43] <pll> sorry, [agent] has server = | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:48:08] <jbaldridge> set server to puppet.foo.com, or add an altname to your ssl cert of "puppet" | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:48:26] <jbaldridge> you're probably just connecting to "puppet" with a dns search of foo.com | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:48:46] <jbaldridge> but "puppet" doesn't match "puppet.foo.com" which your certificate seems to have | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:49:04] <pll> I tried using --server puppet.foo.com on the cmd line | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:49:14] <pll> passenger/apache still crashes. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:49:39] <pll> I also have [master] dns_alt_names = <list of alt names> | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:49:46] <jbaldridge> oh hey.. sorry, I totally missed the line where you said apache crashes, and just saw the cert mismatch line | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:49:56] <pll> np | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:50:14] * pll waves goodbye from the platform :) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:58:35] <clustermagnet> guys, string concatination… ala | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:58:36] <clustermagnet> http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/5022 | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:58:48] <clustermagnet> can e now say $foo = "hello" + "world" ? | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:58:56] <clustermagnet> 2.7.5 | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:59:09] <jim80net> pll: what version of puppet are you running? | ||
| [2011/12/15 10:59:31] <pll> 2.7.6 | ||
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| [2011/12/15 10:59:37] <Volcane> clustermagnet: why do you ask? when its quicker to just test in a small test.pp file? | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:00:11] <Volcane> clustermagnet: puts $foo = "hello" + "world" followed by notice($foo) in test.pp and run puppet apply test.pp | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:00:42] <clustermagnet> Volcane: i did :) Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: left operand of + is not a number at | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:01:01] <pll> If I run puppet master --no-daemonize -d -v in one window, and puppet agent -vt --ignorecache in another window, everything works fine. | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:01:10] <Volcane> clustermagnet: then i guess you have your answer | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:01:26] <clustermagnet> Volcane: actually, im doing it this way : source => "puppet:///modules/wsesvn/keys/$siteshortname"+"dev", | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:01:31] <pll> But if I turn on apache with passenger, everything blows up, apache crashes | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:01:33] <clustermagnet> let me see if i can stick it in a variable | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:01:47] <Volcane> clustermagnet: why would you do it that way and not "....${siteshortname}dev" | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:02:22] <jim80net> hrm, me has no experience w/ passenger | ||
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| [2011/12/15 11:02:35] <clustermagnet> Volcane: yes! thats what i has to do :) thank you | ||
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| [2011/12/15 11:17:50] <jpalmer> can you define a virtual resource inside a virtual resource/ | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:17:51] <jpalmer> ? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 11:19:25] <pll> How do you create the puppetmaster certs again ? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 11:19:32] <pll> is that the --mkusers option ? | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:20:54] <ashp> Anyone around who knows about the internals of storeconfigs? I need a hand trying to work out if i hit a real bug or not | ||
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| [2011/12/15 11:22:22] <ohadlevy> pll puppetca generate | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:22:30] <pll> for the master or the server ? | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:23:07] <ohadlevy> pll: https://github.com/ohadlevy/puppet-foreman/blob/master/puppet/manifests/server/config.pp#L10 | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:23:12] <ohadlevy> pll: master | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:23:50] <pll> thanks. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 11:28:15] <jamesturnbull> ashp: ummm | ||
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| [2011/12/15 11:28:31] <ashp> jamesturnbull: I actually fixed the problem, kinda! | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:28:33] <jamesturnbull> ashp: maybe can help or if dpittman is around he's much more au fait than me | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:28:40] <ashp> It was a misleading error | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:28:41] <pll> When I run with --waitforcert I'm getting an error about unable to retrieve the catalog and that the certificate verify failed. | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:28:48] <ashp> the issue was that I had two @@mysql::rights with the same $name | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:28:51] <pll> Then it mentions something about time being out of sync, | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:28:52] <dpittman> jamesturnbull: you rang? | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:28:53] <pll> which ist | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:28:58] <pll> which it's not. | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:29:00] <ashp> The error it gives is: err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: Exported resource Mysql::Rights[puppetmaster] cannot override local resource on node | ||
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| [2011/12/15 11:29:26] <jamesturnbull> ashp: ah - see all you had to do was asked in #puppet and your problem was revealed | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:29:27] <dpittman> ashp: Let me grep for a minute..... | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:29:29] <ashp> which made me think that there was one defined locally, but really it just meant "hey I have one resource thanks to exported resources, I can't have another, you idiot" :D | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:29:37] <ashp> jamesturnbull: I actually fixed it by showing my boss how cool exported resources are | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:29:41] <ashp> jamesturnbull: and while in the manifest went WAIT A MINUTE | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:29:42] <jamesturnbull> lol | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:29:51] <jamesturnbull> I have those moments a lot | ||
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| [2011/12/15 11:29:57] <ashp> What I have to do now is work out how to fix my mysql::database one which uses $name to build the database name :/ | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:30:06] <ashp> As I export a mysql::rights and ::database from each remote puppetmaster | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:30:15] <ashp> (god I love exported resources, I have a hammer and the world is made of nails) | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:30:31] <dpittman> ashp: Ah. So, you have a local resource with the same type and title as a resource you are importing from *another* node. | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:31:02] <ashp> dpittman: no! | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:31:04] <grosendorf> I'm having an issue (probably my lack of understanding) using the service resource to stop a service that is controlled by an init script on Ubuntu | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:31:05] <ashp> dpittman: I have no local resources | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:31:15] <dpittman> ashp: ....then you have found a bug. :) | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:31:15] <ashp> dpittman: And I have exported a resource on two seperate nodes that had the same title | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:31:27] <dpittman> ashp: Oh. Wait, yeah, that would probably fail too. | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:31:33] <ashp> Yeah, it's confusing! I figure maybe you're not allowed to have two identically named exported resources | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:31:41] <ashp> the bug is more in that the error message makes it sound like there is a local resource | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:31:41] <grosendorf> the stop argument for the init script works fine from the command line, but for some reason ensure => stopped doesn't seem to do anything | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:31:44] <dpittman> ashp: That code is actually foolish and doesn't track the origin of the "local" resource. | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:31:52] <ashp> i think it takes the first exported resource, considers it local, then tries again, yeah | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:31:55] <dpittman> ashp: So, the first one is added, and then is considered "local" for the second one. | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:32:06] <ashp> It's not really a massive issue but it did lead me to poke around for 30 minutes in the wrong place | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:32:32] <ashp> Shame the title has to be unique and not just some aspect of an exported resource | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:32:36] <dpittman> ashp: I will file a bug about that, so we have it on the radar to get fixed. I suspect the fix is a bit intrusive (eg: track extra state all over the place) so may not happen soon. | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:32:41] <dpittman> ashp: *nod* I tend to agree. | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:32:41] <ashp> because the mysql lib/ stuff uses the name to generate the database | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:32:49] <ashp> So my grand plan won't work :) | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:33:00] <ashp> I guess it's time to wade in and fix up some lib stuf | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:33:04] <dpittman> ashp: You can file the mysql feature request though. ;) | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:34:23] <nlew> Non-unique titles would probably be acceptable if you weren't allowed to talk about collected exported resources after collecting them.. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 11:34:37] <dpittman> nlew: Probably not an acceptable solution though. | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:34:50] <nlew> dpittman: Oh no, not for *this* problem, at all. | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:34:59] <dpittman> nlew: Plus, in the MySQL case, it probably manages the database twice in that case. The *same* database. | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:35:23] <nlew> Right, because the name is also non-unique | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:37:48] <dpittman> ashp: Do you have a RedMine account? Want me to subscribe you to the bug report I am filing? | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:38:07] <ashp> dpittman: I tell you what feature request I should put - an actual mysql module made by puppetlabs as none of the existing ones are amazing as they all just call out to the mysql client instead of doing real mysql/ruby stuff | ||
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| [2011/12/15 11:38:13] <ashp> i do, it should be ashp, let me log in and check | ||
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| [2011/12/15 11:38:30] <zacs> WARNING: define defined inside a class on line 33 | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:38:33] <dpittman> ashp: I only get full names. | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:38:39] <zacs> is defining a function inside a class bad practice? | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:38:51] <ashp> it's ashp, (apenney@gmail.com) | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:38:54] <dpittman> ashp: ...and, yeah, file that feature request. :) | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:38:58] <dpittman> ashp: Got it. :) | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:38:59] <ashp> (Ashley Penney), we'll get there eventually | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:39:23] <ashp> dpittman: Can I add a request for an oracle module, I'll buy enterprise for that the same day :D | ||
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| [2011/12/15 11:40:07] <aricg> can oracle be installed without a gui? | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:40:19] <dpittman> ashp: So, in all seriousness, put in that feature request, and add that comment. Our sales people love to apply the thumbscrews of "X customers want feature Y" to the development team. ;) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 11:40:53] <dpittman> aricg: I am sure that installing xvfb as a dependency would hardly be noticed. (...and I believe there are RPM packages of Oracle out in the universe. ;) | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:41:32] <ashp> You can install oracle without a gui | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:41:34] <ashp> kina.. | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:41:39] <ashp> it has an answers file | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:41:47] <ashp> but I guess you could script out the generation of that file | ||
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| [2011/12/15 11:42:12] <ashp> dpittman: I will do, I'll just raise a generic database feature request - I really think there's huge milage in well written modules with good lib/ resources for sale by puppetlabs | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:42:36] <ashp> dpittman: they are honestly the kind of thing I would spend works money on individually or in bulk, because I'm pretty happy using the open source version for most stuff (as I have foreman etc enterprise is just a pain for me) | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:42:42] <ashp> but for good quality modules that save me a week.. | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:42:45] <dpittman> ashp: We generally prefer finer grained requests. :) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 11:42:59] <ashp> "produce and write all the modules that make me look good at work" | ||
| [2011/12/15 11:43:00] <ashp> :D | ||
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| [2011/12/15 12:00:54] <ken_barber1> ashp: I'd love to help you do an oracle module under an engagement :-). I've been waiting for such a job actually but nothing has come to me yet :-). | ||
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| [2011/12/15 12:07:08] <Evolution> ashp: automatically deploying oracle via puppet.... that's... nearly as evil as what we do here. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 12:15:27] <Naresh> whack: in https://github.com/jordansissel/puppet-examples/tree/master/masterless you say storeconfigs works, but where do you specify the storeconfig related variables? in puppet.conf on each node? and under [master] section? with each node being able to access the db? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 12:18:48] <ashp> Evolution: I actually do that today! | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:18:59] <ashp> ken_barber1: I'll mention it to my boss for REAL because I have the worst oracle module in existance | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:19:10] <ashp> right now I'm trying to figure out what I broke in ruby so that this mysql type won't work | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:19:14] <ashp> i am so thick | ||
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| [2011/12/15 12:21:35] <coasterz> Hey guys, I am looking for someone to assist/guide me in getting a proper puppet system in place for my KVM infrastructure. Unfortunately I need to get most of this in place before next week, and an already severely full plate. Any suggestions ? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 12:22:48] <coasterz> I have a cobbler and puppet in place already, I just need a serious hand up on getting configs setup | ||
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| [2011/12/15 12:25:25] <clustermagnet> guys… in puppet … is there any way to append an already existing file? | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:25:56] <clustermagnet> i guess one could run an external command... | ||
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| [2011/12/15 12:26:23] <clustermagnet> which would first have to check if certain text already exists in the file, and append only if it does not... | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:27:21] <clustermagnet> i see this: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/1/wiki/Simple_Text_Patterns | ||
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| [2011/12/15 12:28:42] <aricg> clustermagnet, I have this -> http://privatepaste.com/31d0a0990b its a bit simpler.. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 12:29:30] <aricg> it could echo "foo" >> /file-that-needs-appending | ||
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| [2011/12/15 12:32:13] <clustermagnet> aricg: thanks! | ||
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| [2011/12/15 12:32:27] <comptona> clustermagnet: you could use Augeas: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/1/wiki/Puppet_Augeas | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:34:15] <raphink> (and #augeas) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 12:37:20] <pll> Anyone ever seen Apache die with a SIGTERM when a client connects to passenger ? | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:38:24] <ashp> http://fpaste.org/wPKJ/ | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:38:29] <ashp> Anyone see anything obviously wrong with that? | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:41:05] <clustermagnet> ashp yep, thanks! | ||
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| [2011/12/15 12:41:52] <pll> I can't figure out why passenger and apache keep dying when I run an agent. | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:41:56] <clustermagnet> man, puppet is getting… HUGE :) | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:42:05] <pll> everything works fine under webrick | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:42:05] <clustermagnet> pll: dunno, sorry | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:42:14] <clustermagnet> pll: logs? | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:42:30] <pll> I've got logging turned all the way up in my passenger.conf | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:42:32] <Evolution> ashp: uh.. one sec... I had something for this... | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:43:38] <ashp> Evolution: Holy shit if you figured this out you're a goddamn genius | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:43:43] <pll> Is there a more verbose logging level for apache than 'debug' | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:43:45] <ashp> because I have spent about two hours stuck on this | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:44:08] <Evolution> ashp: fuck no I didn't figure it out. I let other people do the work and then I steal from them. | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:44:16] <Evolution> ashp: http://bitfieldconsulting.com/puppet-and-mysql-create-databases-and-users | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:44:37] <ashp> oh this is like a lame version of what I have :) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 12:44:50] <Evolution> alternatively (and more debian-esque) https://github.com/DavidS/puppet-mysql | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:45:01] <ashp> Evolution: What I have are actual lib/ resources so I have mysql::database and mysql::user and mysql::grant and it goes off and calls mysql directly | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:45:04] <ashp> i've modified it for RHEL | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:45:12] <ashp> i should shove it in github and show you | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:45:18] <ashp> (once I fix it) | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:45:27] <Evolution> yes. SO I CAN STEAL THE CRAP OUT OF IT | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:45:32] <ashp> the issue is you can't export a resource with the same name twice and so I need to add a database => param | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:45:41] <Evolution> ah | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:45:41] <ashp> so that it uses that for the db name and the actual name can be unique | ||
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| [2011/12/15 12:45:48] <ashp> but for whatever reason my type isn't working | ||
| [2011/12/15 12:45:54] <ashp> and so it claims database is invalid | ||
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| [2011/12/15 12:50:00] <ashp> turns out i'm just an utter moron | ||
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| [2011/12/15 12:57:34] <coasterz> In my gathering of info on how I will implement puppet I have come accross example42, which seems to be a quite complete layout. Since I am just getting started using puppet, is example42 a good place to build a template from. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 13:03:06] <mzi> coasterz: yep, example42 is a good place to start if they suit you. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 13:09:47] <pll> clustermagnet: I figured it out. | ||
| [2011/12/15 13:10:03] * pll is an idiot. | ||
| [2011/12/15 13:10:06] <pll> service { httpd: ensure => stopped, enable => false;} | ||
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| [2011/12/15 13:17:55] <coasterz> mzi: thanks, I am just trying to get a base in place so I can work out my deployment methods. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 13:18:21] <coasterz> if my budget allowed I would get puppetlabs to build me a base | ||
| [2011/12/15 13:21:09] <ablew> is it possible to specify the environment as a command line arg in puppet v2.6.x? | ||
| [2011/12/15 13:21:14] <ablew> or did that bet deprecated? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 13:27:30] <Evolution> okay, stupid question.. I've seen it in the docs before but what's the command to expose the puppet default values? it was like puppet agent --configtest 'param' or similar | ||
| [2011/12/15 13:27:41] <Evolution> I can't find it now that I'm looking for it | ||
| [2011/12/15 13:27:43] <nfagerlund> configprint | ||
| [2011/12/15 13:27:53] <Evolution> thank you. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 13:28:34] <nfagerlund> the thing is that configprint itself is a config setting, rather than an application-specific command line switch. So it probably isn't listed in the man pages, since it falls under the catch-all about config settings working as --switches. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 13:35:19] <gabrtv> is there a command-line test for extlookup? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 13:39:38] <the_ramink> ablew: it still works --environment stage | ||
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| [2011/12/15 13:48:19] <ablew> the_ramink: odd, it didn't seem like it was working when I tried it. I'll play with it a bit more | ||
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| [2011/12/15 13:52:44] <brunoleon_> hello, I keep on getting Database isn't the current migration version: expected 20111118204121 when launching workers for the dashboard. Has anyone got it workling ? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 13:53:32] <the_ramink> brunoleon_: did you run the rake migrate scripts? | ||
| [2011/12/15 13:53:49] <brunoleon_> yes | ||
| [2011/12/15 13:54:00] <brunoleon_> I even dropped the DB and reapplied | ||
| [2011/12/15 13:54:23] <brunoleon_> can't figure out what it wants. The dashbord interface is working fine | ||
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| [2011/12/15 13:58:20] <the_ramink> brunoleon_: environment problem maybe? Is delayed_job kicked off with the same RAILS_ENV as the interface? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:06:50] <Evolution> okay, I'm apparently doing something stupid with templates. I'm reading http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/templating.html, and trying to reference the hostname of the puppet server itself. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:07:34] <Evolution> puppet --configprint server outputs the proper value, but if I test my module via a --noop I get 'could not find value for server' | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:07:50] <HCoyote> <%= hostname %> doesn't work? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:08:23] <Evolution> HCoyote: that wouldn't give me the puppet server would it? that would give the client's name | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:08:28] <Evolution> or am I backwards in this? | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:08:37] <HCoyote> should give you the client. | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:08:41] <HCoyote> (client hostname) | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:08:46] <HCoyote> oh. | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:08:50] <HCoyote> I misread what you were asking for. | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:08:56] <Evolution> right. I want to return the puppetmaster's fqdn | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:09:29] <HCoyote> not sure you can do that. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:09:47] <HCoyote> what are you really trying to do? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:10:51] <Evolution> generating a config file that points pulp (software provisioner) back to the puppet master.. which is also running pulp. | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:11:02] <clustermagnet> guys, could someone please enlighten me :) | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:11:03] <clustermagnet> http://pastie.org/3023280 | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:11:09] <clustermagnet> i need to do some string conversion tricks | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:11:10] <Evolution> basically using puppet to deploy the client, and point it back to the server. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:11:35] * HCoyote would just define a variable in site.pp that holds the name of the puppet server. <shrug> | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:11:42] <clustermagnet> if hiera is returning back a string like "https://me.com/blah/trunk/modules" i would like to have a variable which only is "/trunk/modules" :) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:11:48] <clustermagnet> is there a way to do this in puppet? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:12:05] <Evolution> HCoyote: if I put that in site.pp, then <%= server %> will work? | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:12:06] <clustermagnet> is there a split() funciton? | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:12:12] <Evolution> that seems a workable solution | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:12:20] <clustermagnet> Evolution: templates rule | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:12:28] <HCoyote> Evolution: should. | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:12:56] <HCoyote> clustermagnet: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/2.6.8/function.html#split | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:13:04] <clustermagnet> HCoyote: xoxo | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:13:19] <clustermagnet> winning :) thanks | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:16:27] <ianbrandt> Greetings. Is there any way to get exec to flush command output as it's running? I tried autoflush = true in my puppet.conf but no luck. Also is there a way to enable logging for onlyif/unless commands? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:17:31] <clustermagnet> guys… arrays, http://pastie.org/3023311 | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:17:42] <clustermagnet> how would you grab the last value in an array? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:18:07] <HCoyote> foo[-1] maybe? | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:18:32] <clustermagnet> HCoyote: checking:) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:20:22] <brett_h> is there a way to force something to exec (say apt-get update) *before* everything else in the run, without having to create an entire dependency chain between everything with it at the top? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:22:50] <bmahe> brett_h, stages? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:24:00] <brett_h> bmahe: thanks I'll check them out | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:24:04] <brunoleon_> the_ramink: seems related to that indeed when IO luanch it by hand specifying the RAIl_ENVit works... | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:29:17] <the_ramink> brunoleon_: I have mine kick off with the env set, so I've never run into it. Are you running it as some env other than production. That's what it should default to otherwise you'll have to set it. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:35:16] <brunoleon_> the_ramink: I'm using the deb packacges, but seems the init script is boggue, path to pid are wrong and delayed_job_monitor is not stop when it should | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:39:52] <nate_h> clustermagnet, if -1 doesn't work in puppet it wouldn't be hard to write a function that takes an array as an argument and then just use the -1 | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:39:53] <jorhett> dangit, I found a syntax once that I can't remember. How can you add something to an existing resource? Like $Resource['name']->{'notify'} = .... | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:40:30] <nate_h> use the -1 in ruby code i mean | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:41:28] <nlew> jorhett: Type[title] { notify => whatever, param => value } | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:42:53] <jorhett> nlew: thanks | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:47:38] <Wolfspyre> what's the easiest way to debug a custom fact that isn't making sense? I'm using timeout and open-uri functions and trying to determine if I can connect to a specific host on the internet/intranet (checking to see if a client firewall is incorrectly configured before installing a package which needs to communicate with the server in quesiton) tcp:80 IS open, but for some reason my fact isn't working right and I'm not sure why: | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:47:39] <Wolfspyre> http://pastebin.com/5rGjLf29 | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:48:57] <Wolfspyre> I can connect via telnet just fine. and something relatively similar to this config is working for an internal version of whatismyip | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:50:46] <nlew> Wolfspyre: You might try removing the rescues and see what the error you get is | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:51:16] <clustermagnet> nate_h: [-1] works perfect | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:51:18] <clustermagnet> thank you! | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:51:30] <nlew> Also might try your code in irb and see what's happening | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:53:57] <nate_h> Wolfspyre, I'd convert the fact to a ruby program you can run on the command line | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:54:06] <nate_h> Wolfspyre, then you can output debugging and run it easier | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:54:31] <nate_h> once you are assured the output is right, its simple to wrap in the fact code | ||
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| [2011/12/15 14:55:01] <Wolfspyre> the url is returning a 401; which is getting interpreted as an error. | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:55:06] <Wolfspyre> that's helpful :) | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:55:32] <Wolfspyre> any suggestions on how I might tweak my check to a simple tcp connect check? | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:55:38] <Wolfspyre> ruby isn't quite my forte | ||
| [2011/12/15 14:56:08] <Wolfspyre> I can dig thru the interwebs if you don't have any suggestions off the top of your head | ||
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| [2011/12/15 15:00:06] <Wolfspyre> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/517219/ruby-see-if-a-port-is-open aha | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:00:12] <Wolfspyre> answered my own q | ||
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| [2011/12/15 15:00:24] <Wolfspyre> thankyou intertubes | ||
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| [2011/12/15 15:02:30] <dissipate> sorry to go off on a rant but i don't see the point of having Ruby and Python. my forte is Python, but my stance is let's pick 1 or the other. i'm fairly certain the differences are marginal enough to live with if one went away. :/ | ||
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| [2011/12/15 15:03:43] <seekwill> dissipate: Are there any negative effects of having both? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 15:04:56] <dissipate> seekwill, of course. | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:05:09] <seekwill> I'm not familar | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:05:26] <seekwill> with either platforms. But I didn't know there would be anything bad about having both environments | ||
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| [2011/12/15 15:05:46] <dissipate> seekwill, double the effort to maintain libraries, extra effort to learn syntax, quirks and idioms of both. just more overhead. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 15:06:19] <seekwill> There are package managers to handle keeping the libraries up to date | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:06:59] <seekwill> Yeah, developing for both would be cumbersome. But I can also see the use case where you want to have both if you had tools that dependent on them | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:07:02] <dissipate> i may be way off the mark here but i thought Ruby was used almost entirely for Ruby on Rails in practice. now i see it creeping into more general uses. | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:07:34] <seekwill> Rails made Ruby famous, I believe | ||
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| [2011/12/15 15:07:57] <seekwill> It's like we see a lot of people in #mysql that think PHP and MySQL are "the same" | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:08:31] <agaffney> I have an erb template with a line that starts with '%ops'. puppet accepts this just fine, but when running the erb syntax check command recommended by the puppet docs, it complains about the syntax, because the % gets stripped off the beginning of the line | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:08:32] <nate_h> ya rails is definitely what kicked ruby up in popularity | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:08:48] <nate_h> agaffney, i believe there is an ERB escape char | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:08:59] <nlew> agaffney: %% might fix that | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:09:06] <nate_h> what nlew said | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:09:13] <dissipate> seekwill, it's not just package managers. you have to write a math library and extend it for Python and Ruby etc. | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:09:17] <nate_h> there was this guy trying to erb template javascript | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:09:23] <nate_h> you can imagine how fun that was with js comments | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:09:23] <nate_h> haha | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:09:46] <agaffney> nate_h, nlew: but why doesn't it bother puppet during normal operation? | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:09:48] <seekwill> dissipate: Well, if you're talking about development, I think that's a different story. I was thinking from a system ops pov | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:10:17] <nate_h> agaffney, but does end resulting file actually work with what its used for? | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:10:28] <nate_h> agaffney, ie, does not having the % in the final file break whatever app uses that as a config? | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:10:36] <agaffney> nate_h: the resulting file on the agent has the leading % | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:10:38] <dissipate> seekwill, it affects system ops because you have half the effort devoted to those libraries than you otherwise would (assuming a 50/50 split in development effort for each language). | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:10:55] <agaffney> nate_h: but that is stripped when running 'erb -x -T' on the file | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:11:03] <nate_h> agaffney, ah, i dunno then | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:11:10] <agaffney> %% makes the syntax check happy, but it ends up as %% on the client | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:11:23] <nate_h> stop running erb -x -T on the file? | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:11:24] <nate_h> ;) | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:11:35] <seekwill> dissipate: What's the use case? Like, where does this happen? We have the same issue when we want to develop something on Linux and Solaris. It's just part of the job | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:11:41] <dissipate> seekwill, there's a reason Google only has 3 official languages I think. :O | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:12:02] <seekwill> dissipate: Sure, I don't disagree. But I think context is important | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:12:11] <nlew> dissipate: It's more than just Python/Ruby, though. Each language has its own philosophy, and thus appeals to a different set of people. | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:12:32] <agaffney> nate_h: not really an option :P | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:12:57] <dissipate> seekwill, pick anything out of the core libraries of those languages as an example. effort was expended in producing those libs that wouldn't have been if there was only 1 of the two languages. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 15:13:52] <dissipate> nlew, that may be true, but in my opinion the gains in using one over another (from a core language perspective) are probably marginal for the vast majority of cases. | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:14:07] <seekwill> dissipate: What was the purpose of having two languages in the first place then? | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:14:27] <agaffney> nate_h: it seems someone else found the problem...and the solution: https://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/3902 | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:14:28] <nlew> dissipate: Pretty much. But what I mean is it's a larger issue. You could pretty much get rid of every language that starts with a P, and just use Ruby instead. | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:14:32] <seekwill> dissipate: Honestly, I don't know where you're coming from, so some of your assumptions aren't clear to me | ||
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| [2011/12/15 15:15:33] <dissipate> that's why i shake my head at all this Perl code that could be rewritten as Python. the vast majority of Perl code i've seen could be rewritten as Python with no loss of anything, but enhanced readability etc. the reason why is because in practice, good Perl programmers avoid all the gnarly Perlisms that are difficult for people to understand. | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:16:27] <nlew> dissipate: But perl came first. You ought to be questioning the existence of python. | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:16:28] <dissipate> yes, Perl can definitely be more powerful than Python for certain cases, but in practice I don't see that stuff being used all that much. | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:16:53] <nate_h> ya perlisms are stupid | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:17:47] <dissipate> people are being blinded by their supposed 'philosophies', when in fact they are actually in practice writing pretty much the same code, just in a different language. | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:17:47] <nate_h> its like sure the software is smaller, but completely unreadable with all the builtin variable/function use | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:18:15] <nate_h> agaffney, good to know :) | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:18:17] <seekwill> dissipate: It all comes down to C :P | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:18:27] <nate_h> agaffney, is your erb testing part of your pre-git hook checkin? | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:18:34] <seekwill> We all write binary and not even know it | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:19:22] <ablew> interesting, so i'm running this: puppet agent --environment ablew | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:19:24] <dissipate> seekwill, C is a good language for its purpose (code that needs to run close to the hardware). for expressing higher level concepts (especially mathematical concepts), it is a terrible language. | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:19:37] <ablew> but the request is only getting serviced by the production environment on the puppetmaster side | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:20:17] <seekwill> dissipate: So you agree that on should use the "best tool for the job"? | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:21:12] <nlew> How's tht saying go again? Hegemony is the spice of life? | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:22:10] <grim_radical> heh | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:23:47] <dissipate> seekwill, yes, with the caveat that some tools are better for the job for use cases in practice. for instance, i much prefer Python over Perl if I don't need the power of Perl's built in operators (e.g. built in regex matching). | ||
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| [2011/12/15 15:24:50] <dissipate> but the Ruby vs. Python war seems wasteful to me. call me crazy but i'm not seeing enormous benefits of one over the other for much of anything. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 15:25:11] <seekwill> dissipate: I thought you were the one complaining about it? :P | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:25:28] <grim_radical> zing! | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:25:37] <daMaestro> We are updating to 2.6.12 from 0.25.5 and we are running into "Could not parse for environment production: No file(s) found for import of ..." where the import is a relative import. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 15:25:49] <dissipate> seekwill, i'm complaining that people are fighting over it. :P | ||
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| [2011/12/15 15:26:02] <seekwill> dissipate: Just install both libraries and be done with it :) | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:26:35] <dissipate> and i'm also complaining that tools like Puppet have to pick 1, leaving extra effort for those not familiar with it. it's marginal gains at best and it's overhead. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 15:28:17] <seekwill> dissipate: So how about we just tell everyone to drop Linux and OSX, and run Windows everywhere? Then developers worldwide can work on a single platform, improve its efficieny, and everyone would be familiar with it. | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:28:22] <dissipate> to sum up, I would give up Python if all I had to know was Ruby for all the tools out there that Ruby and Python were good for (e.g. puppet). | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:28:54] <grim_radical> dissipate: um, that's a pretty big "if" | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:29:02] <dissipate> seekwill, bad analogy. the benefits of Linux and OSX over Windows are not marginal. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 15:30:23] <daMaestro> Is there something simple we are missing? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 15:33:27] <seekwill> dissipate: It was a nice chat, but I have to work now :) | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:33:50] <dissipate> seekwill, same here. cya. | ||
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| [2011/12/15 15:40:24] <ablew> ahh, had to restart the puppetmaster | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:40:26] <ablew> my bad :) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 15:51:11] <daMaestro> 2.6.6 works for us :-/ | ||
| [2011/12/15 15:51:12] <daMaestro> hmm | ||
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| [2011/12/15 16:20:37] <daMaestro> actually it does nto | ||
| [2011/12/15 16:20:38] <daMaestro> not* | ||
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| [2011/12/15 16:36:45] <jorhett> anyone know which certs that puppet kick needs to read? the ca cert, or the individual host certs? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 16:38:48] <Wolfspyre> what's the easiest way to have an exec not fire if a file DOESN'T exist | ||
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| [2011/12/15 16:43:19] <agaffney> Wolfspyre: unless/onlyif with a call to 'test' | ||
| [2011/12/15 16:43:20] <jorhett> onlyif => test ! -f filename | ||
| [2011/12/15 16:43:26] <jorhett> or unless => test -f filename | ||
| [2011/12/15 16:43:36] <agaffney> yes, that :) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 16:44:00] <jorhett> beware of a bug in puppet however where if you have a file named test in your current directory it will fail, whether or not test is within your path | ||
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| [2011/12/15 16:44:43] <Wolfspyre> yeah I just wasn't sure if the ! in test conditional would need escaping somehow | ||
| [2011/12/15 16:45:21] <jorhett> see bug #10908 | ||
| [2011/12/15 16:45:22] <gepetto> jorhett: #10908 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/10908 "Puppet - Bug #10908: puppet executing files in local directory, ignoring configured path when running OnlyIf/Unless. It has a status of Rejected and is assigned to Daniel Pittman" | ||
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| [2011/12/15 16:47:06] <agaffney> jorhett: easily worked around by doing: unless => '/usr/bin/test ...' | ||
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| [2011/12/15 16:48:41] <jorhett> if test is always there on every os | ||
| [2011/12/15 16:48:53] <jorhett> it's a ridiculous bug | ||
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| [2011/12/15 17:25:38] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Puppet_Modules (#23) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Puppet_Modules?version=23 (by Nick Fagerlund) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 17:56:22] <jamesturnbull> gepetto: seen tcolgate | ||
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| [2011/12/15 17:56:47] <jamesturnbull> happymcplaksin: so that bug looks like it's fixed - it'll be in the next 2.7 release 2.7.10 | ||
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| [2011/12/15 18:00:47] <happymcplaksin> jamesturnbull: Cool! I may still be doing something wrong.. | ||
| [2011/12/15 18:01:17] <happymcplaksin> I manually applied the patch and instead of "can't find user 2288" I get "can't find user happy" with a backtrace | ||
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| [2011/12/15 18:02:39] <happymcplaksin> I'm RDP'd in as happy but it's actually a domain account so technically it's USO\happy and my cmd.exe is running as Administrator...I know almost nothing about Windows :) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 18:21:25] <jamesturnbull> happymcplaksin: can you update the ticket? thanks | ||
| [2011/12/15 18:21:43] <happymcplaksin> in the midst of doing that :) | ||
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| [2011/12/15 18:26:27] <whack> Naresh: I never use puppet.conf, I always pass stuff in as flags. | ||
| [2011/12/15 18:26:35] <whack> Naresh: puppet apply --genconfig will show you | ||
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| [2011/12/15 22:34:26] <drkatz> helloooo | ||
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| [2011/12/15 23:41:53] <passenger> hi! | ||
| [2011/12/15 23:42:18] <dissipate_> hi | ||
| [2011/12/15 23:42:42] <dissipate_> passenger, you seem happy, what's going on? :D | ||
| [2011/12/15 23:44:22] <passenger> dissipate_, on how much you make life easier Puppet? | ||
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| [2011/12/15 23:48:59] <joe-mac> yes, yes it does | ||
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| [2011/12/15 23:55:22] <joe-mac> 2.6.9 to 2.7.9 went really smooth- but I had been qualifying vars for a while now | ||
| [2011/12/15 23:55:27] <joe-mac> that was my only worry that I had missed something | ||
| [2011/12/15 23:55:35] <joe-mac> went seamless though, smoothest major upgrade yet | ||
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