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| [2011/12/17 00:39:27] <jrcarlsen> How can I set a node specific variable. I tried to do it like this, but that wasn't successful: http://pastebin.com/ZVJrEDBR | ||
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| [2011/12/17 00:44:27] <jrcarlsen> nevermind, found my error | ||
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| [2011/12/17 00:45:21] <jrcarlsen> I included a module in "aware-servers" that relied on the variable | ||
| [2011/12/17 00:45:46] <jrcarlsen> including that module in the nodes shown in the pastebin made it work | ||
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| [2011/12/17 01:08:53] @ Topic is "Puppet Enterprise 2.0 is out: http://bit.ly/PE_2 | Important Security Announcement: http://bit.ly/AltNames | Puppet 2.7.9 and 2.6.13 available at downloads.puppetlabs.com | http://docs.puppetlabs.com | Bugs & Feature Requests http://bit.ly/dKVa0A | November Newsletter http://bit.ly/nl11-11" | ||
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| [2011/12/17 05:20:46] <Wicla_> Hi. I've a question regarding the recurse option on file entities with purge set as true. I've tried using recurse => remote but it doesn't seem to work properly. Using recurse => true it cleans both managed and unmanaged directories. However with recurse => remote it doesn't seem to clean either. Am I mistaken what it does? | ||
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| [2011/12/17 05:39:22] <Volcane> Wicla_: maybe you should rather explain what you want to achieve | ||
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| [2011/12/17 05:53:00] <Wicla_> Volcane: sure. It was kind of vague. Example: http://pastebin.com/CXT43pEX. With recurse => true it makes sure only content on puppet://module/cache exists on remote system and cleans everything else out in /var/lib/zypp/cache/. However with recurse => remote (it should only clean directories/files not managed by puppet in that directory(?)). But if it's set it does neither. Am I mistaken what recurse = remote does? | ||
| [2011/12/17 05:53:45] <_zack> is there a difference between using "inherits foo" and "include foo" in the body of the class? | ||
| [2011/12/17 05:54:00] <Volcane> i think the combination of recurse and purge here doesnt make sense | ||
| [2011/12/17 05:54:16] <Volcane> recurse remote and purge doesnt make sense | ||
| [2011/12/17 05:54:22] <_zack> in particular, I'd like to set some variables before "include foo" but I don't want them to be visible in the outer scope | ||
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| [2011/12/17 05:54:45] <_zack> with include I can do that, but I'm not sure if the semantics changes in subtle ways wrt inherits | ||
| [2011/12/17 05:54:58] <Volcane> inherits is very different | ||
| [2011/12/17 05:55:09] <Volcane> only inherit when you want to adjust resources in the class you are inheriting from | ||
| [2011/12/17 05:55:14] <Volcane> else avoid it | ||
| [2011/12/17 05:55:22] <_zack> uhm, ok | ||
| [2011/12/17 05:55:48] <_zack> I'll stick to include for compositions then, thanks | ||
| [2011/12/17 05:56:34] <Wicla_> Volcane: So it wouldn't be possible to make sure other files and directories are cleaned from, in this case /var/lib/zypp/cache, but still keep files not generated by puppet in puppet-managed subdirectories of that directory? | ||
| [2011/12/17 05:57:01] <Volcane> Wicla_: isnt that what recurse => true combined with purge does? | ||
| [2011/12/17 05:57:41] <Wicla_> It cleans both managed and non-managed directories so only managed files and directories are left in /var/lib/zypp/cache | ||
| [2011/12/17 05:58:00] <Volcane> right i see now what u want | ||
| [2011/12/17 05:58:19] <Volcane> no dont think u can do that unless you recurse copy each of the subdirs u care about | ||
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| [2011/12/17 06:00:56] <Wicla_> Content in /var/lib/zypp/cache/ are metadata related to the package manager in SLE[DS] 10. It's not possible to use puppet to push it out. Thanks for letting me know! | ||
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| [2011/12/17 09:45:47] <_zack> is there any way to have a dry run of "puppet apply"? it seems weird to me that "agent" has a dry run mode, but "apply" seems not to | ||
| [2011/12/17 09:45:53] <LoRez> is there a way to get puppet's debian package handling to realize that ensure => installed is compatible with being held while installed? | ||
| [2011/12/17 09:45:55] <_zack> (so I'm probably just missing something...) | ||
| [2011/12/17 09:47:52] <Dominic> _zack: --noop works for apply as well as agent, at least here | ||
| [2011/12/17 09:48:18] <_zack> ah, cool, thanks: it doesn't seem to be documented in my "help agent" | ||
| [2011/12/17 09:48:30] * _zack crosses fingers and proceeds | ||
| [2011/12/17 09:49:41] <Dominic> _zack: --help only lists command "options" as opposed to "configuration", which is how noop is classed. Any config option you can change with --<name> instead of using a config file. Have a look at the config page on the site for the full list, or run it with --genconfig. | ||
| [2011/12/17 09:51:15] <_zack> Dominic: I see, I got puzzled by the fact that puppet agent --help does show --noop among its options | ||
| [2011/12/17 09:51:47] <Dominic> _zack: ah so it does, that's odd - I don't know why :) | ||
| [2011/12/17 09:52:12] <_zack> no worries, it's good that --noop is ubiquitous :) | ||
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| [2011/12/17 10:18:09] <|Majestic|> hiya, is there a cleaner way to do this in erb template? <% if scope.lookupvar('hostname') == "mail" or scope.lookupvar('hostname') == "mailq" then -%> | ||
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| [2011/12/17 10:34:09] <Volcane> if ["mailq", "mail"].include?(hostname) | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:34:28] <|Majestic|> thank you Volcane again :) | ||
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| [2011/12/17 10:37:55] <countskm_> anyone using rspec and cucumber in their project? curious about what criteria one uses to use cucumber style over rspec and vice-versa | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:38:21] <countskm_> i know that u can use rspec in cucumber but i mean when u actually define rspec like contexts, etc. | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:38:53] <Volcane> rspec tends to be for unit testing and cucumber for integration testing | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:39:39] <|Majestic|> btw Volcane, thanks again the other day for the fact code.. I have since created about 5 facts using same code for things like country, isp etc. | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:39:55] <countskm_> it seems like there can be a fuzzy overlap - depends on scale of project, etc I suppose? | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:39:57] <Volcane> |Majestic|: neat, get a github account and share:) | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:40:19] <|Majestic|> got to learn git :) used to svn but will look into that over the hoilidays ;) | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:40:43] <Volcane> countskm_: yeah probably - but mostly cucumber just doesnt have clean integrations with mock tools etc that rspec has - which you need for unit testing in ruby | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:41:14] <Volcane> cucumber is all about expressing behaviors, rspec all about testing inputs/outputs, error codes and such | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:41:20] <countskm_> gotcha | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:41:37] <countskm_> i am reading the rspec book (pragprog) - man i like it | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:41:40] <Volcane> |Majestic|: to get started with git can be very similar to svn its only when you get into branching and such where it gets weird | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:41:53] <|Majestic|> great | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:42:09] <Volcane> |Majestic|: and github has a svn mode too :) | ||
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| [2011/12/17 10:42:28] <|Majestic|> seems I already created a git acct a while ago just not used - bad me.. teaches me to use private svn servers hehe | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:42:32] <countskm_> Majestic- one other thing git add will stage changes to your files and then you commit - so you have an extra state that doesn't exist in svn | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:42:57] <|Majestic|> right | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:43:09] <|Majestic|> well I should really start mirgrating away from svn.. | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:43:23] <|Majestic|> told myself ages ago to but... you know what its like lol | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:43:32] <countskm_> yep :- | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:43:34] <countskm_> :-) | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:44:17] <countskm_> i still am using svn for my unix admin team but switched over to git to maintain some code i am learning and home directory stuff in ~/bin ~/dotfiles, etc | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:44:40] <|Majestic|> got ya | ||
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| [2011/12/17 10:45:16] <countskm_> that way i am forced to learn it but only i suffer my learning-stage ;-) | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:45:19] * Volcane also has his puppet in svn, the git dance can be a PITA if you're just one dude maintaining some fiels | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:45:26] <Volcane> but for collaboration git rules | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:45:33] <|Majestic|> yea | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:45:38] <|Majestic|> right | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:45:57] * mechi_soulfly MP3 Brasil Soulfly-3 (5.7MB 160Kbps 44.1Khz 5m) | ||
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| [2011/12/17 10:46:27] <Evolution> hah | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:46:49] <|Majestic|> will keep you posted how epic fail I am with git in a while hehe | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:47:07] * Volcane thought for a moment that was some spam but no its was just something annoying :P | ||
| [2011/12/17 10:47:15] <|Majestic|> hehe | ||
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| [2011/12/17 12:55:33] <Salvatore65> ciao | ||
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| [2011/12/17 12:56:14] <Diranged> anyone know of a simple way to make vcsrepo act in a 'refreshonly' type mode... | ||
| [2011/12/17 12:56:26] <Diranged> essentially i want it to do the checkout once, and only once.. not continue to do 'fetch's from the server | ||
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| [2011/12/17 13:04:50] <kjetilho> Diranged: specify a tag | ||
| [2011/12/17 13:05:08] <kjetilho> it will check status and skip updating | ||
| [2011/12/17 13:05:58] <Diranged> hrmm .. what if i just want it to check out the latest version the first time, and then not update after.. | ||
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| [2011/12/17 13:10:10] <kjetilho> that sounds a bit undeterministic to me... | ||
| [2011/12/17 13:10:39] <kjetilho> use a special environment for updating it, perhaps? | ||
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| [2011/12/17 13:26:11] <_zack> am I right in assuming that metaparameters passed to defined resource types are useless, unless the defined resource uses them explicitly in its definition? | ||
| [2011/12/17 13:26:23] <_zack> there is an example in the language guide about that, but I'm not sure I'm getting it right... | ||
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| [2011/12/17 13:33:37] <Evolution> is it possible to set an array for a packages definition? Something like "if rhel6, installme = foo,bar else installme = foo ; package installme => ensure; ? | ||
| [2011/12/17 13:34:00] <_zack> found my answer at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/msg/0fd4387d029e7e38 | ||
| [2011/12/17 13:34:06] <_zack> (i.e. metaparameters automatically propagate) | ||
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| [2011/12/17 13:35:16] <Evolution> oh, it seems you can. | ||
| [2011/12/17 13:35:21] <Evolution> found my answer... | ||
| [2011/12/17 13:35:46] <Callek> Evolution: yes, but not necessarily as straightforward as you might expect | ||
| [2011/12/17 13:38:41] <Evolution> Callek: case $operatingsystem { redhat,centos,fedora,Scientific: {$tftp_package = [ "tftp-server", "syslinux", "syslinux-tftpboot" ] } | ||
| [2011/12/17 13:38:59] <Evolution> seems pretty simple. | ||
| [2011/12/17 13:39:23] <Evolution> only issue is that the last package is el6 and recent fedora only. | ||
| [2011/12/17 13:39:41] <Evolution> so I might need to add another case for $operatingsystemrelease in there. | ||
| [2011/12/17 13:39:52] <Callek> Evolution: I meant in terms of the after-parts. like |package { $tftp_package: ensure=>latest; }| but you can't do simple before/after and ref that array, etc. | ||
| [2011/12/17 13:40:24] <Callek> but for simple-use-cases it does work out to be great | ||
| [2011/12/17 13:40:37] <Evolution> this is a reasonably simple use case. | ||
| [2011/12/17 13:40:48] <Evolution> how would I add to an array like that though? | ||
| [2011/12/17 13:43:25] <Evolution> can I do case $operatingsystem { redhat,centos,fedora: { $tftp_package = [ "tftp-server", "syslinux" ] ; case { $operatingsystemrelease ? { >=6 SOMETHING }} to add syslinux-tftpboot to the existing array? | ||
| [2011/12/17 13:44:08] <Evolution> so if it's redhat and it's 6 or greater, add this package name to the array? | ||
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| [2011/12/17 15:55:21] <Evolution> is there a way to create an alias to a particular resource? for example a file where the name may be dynamic? | ||
| [2011/12/17 15:56:05] <Evolution> for example, http://fpaste.org/TtbP/ | ||
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| [2011/12/17 15:57:04] <Evolution> if I go to reference that later on with: require => File["what-goes-here?"] ? | ||
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| [2011/12/17 15:58:49] <kjetilho> Evolution: alias => "what-goes-here" ? | ||
| [2011/12/17 15:59:06] <Evolution> kjetilho: oh? sweet | ||
| [2011/12/17 15:59:07] <Evolution> thanks | ||
| [2011/12/17 15:59:10] <kjetilho> hehe | ||
| [2011/12/17 15:59:17] <Evolution> now I feel dumb | ||
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| [2011/12/17 16:08:35] <Evolution> kjetilho: okay, I'm going to continue to sounds stupid... | ||
| [2011/12/17 16:09:08] <Evolution> kjetilho: I can simply reference that as File["myalias"]; right? | ||
| [2011/12/17 16:09:42] <kjetilho> not always | ||
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| [2011/12/17 16:10:05] <kjetilho> you can't do File[',ualias' | ||
| [2011/12/17 16:10:20] <kjetilho> you can't do File['my-alias'] { source => "something different" } | ||
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| [2011/12/17 16:10:58] <z00dax> who's have thought Evolution works on weekends... | ||
| [2011/12/17 16:11:00] <kjetilho> actually I think you can only use the alias with dependencies | ||
| [2011/12/17 16:12:16] <Evolution> z00dax: hehe | ||
| [2011/12/17 16:12:35] <Evolution> z00dax: puppet modules for automated pulp installation and cds syncing. | ||
| [2011/12/17 16:12:37] <Evolution> :-D | ||
| [2011/12/17 16:13:04] <z00dax> oh that sounds interesting.. share ? | ||
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| [2011/12/17 16:14:30] <Evolution> certainly will once I get it where I'm okay with it being seen in public | ||
| [2011/12/17 16:14:32] <Evolution> :-P | ||
| [2011/12/17 16:15:21] <z00dax> do that early, and then let someone else fix all the issues {| | ||
| [2011/12/17 16:15:30] <Evolution> hahaha | ||
| [2011/12/17 16:15:42] <Evolution> I should have it up on github either tonight or tomorrow | ||
| [2011/12/17 16:15:59] <Evolution> foreman has forced me to move into modern times. | ||
| [2011/12/17 16:16:15] <Evolution> learning puppet, learning git, learning python for pulp... | ||
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| [2011/12/17 16:16:18] <Evolution> and ruby... | ||
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| [2011/12/17 20:36:23] <Moe__> hello everyone | ||
| [2011/12/17 20:36:54] <Moe__> what what cause the puppet agent to stop performing runs event though the process is still running? | ||
| [2011/12/17 20:38:54] <Moe__> it looks like it stopped in the middle of writing a log entry | ||
| [2011/12/17 20:39:40] <Moe__> looks like this is happening on a few of my clients | ||
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| [2011/12/17 21:16:12] <Moe__> what what cause the puppet agent to stop performing runs event though the process is still running? | ||
| [2011/12/17 21:16:16] <Moe__> it looks like it stopped in the middle of writing a log entry | ||
| [2011/12/17 21:16:25] <Moe__> looks like this is happening on a few of my clients | ||
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| [2011/12/17 21:33:48] <countskm> taking a shot in the dark - disk space on var? | ||
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| [2011/12/17 21:36:09] <Moe__> using lvm and 60% available on / | ||
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| [2011/12/17 21:42:37] <countskm> like i said shot in the dark - can u strace the process? | ||
| [2011/12/17 21:45:51] <Moe__> installing now | ||
| [2011/12/17 21:46:32] <Preston4tw> what's the problem? | ||
| [2011/12/17 21:48:37] <Moe__> what should I do with the strace? | ||
| [2011/12/17 21:48:49] <Moe__> puppet stops performing runs | ||
| [2011/12/17 21:48:55] <Preston4tw> pastebin and link it | ||
| [2011/12/17 21:49:00] <Moe__> with no error and the process is still running | ||
| [2011/12/17 21:49:14] <countskm> you can trace the hanging process and see the system calls - may or may not help - just a suggestion | ||
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