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| [2011/12/22 00:01:50] <rjd_> What's the update interval for a clients puppetd? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 00:13:29] <jeremyb> rjd_: configurable? some run from cron some other ways | ||
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| [2011/12/22 00:16:43] <rjd_> jeremyb: I just saw that, default interval for a running puppetd is 30 minutes? | ||
| [2011/12/22 00:16:55] <whack> rjd_: you can configure it however you want | ||
| [2011/12/22 00:17:06] <jeremyb> rjd_: apparently but that's googling plus a vague memory | ||
| [2011/12/22 00:17:06] <rjd_> and running it from cron would mean disable the puppetd service, and instead run puppet by cron? | ||
| [2011/12/22 00:17:14] <jeremyb> yes | ||
| [2011/12/22 00:17:21] <rjd_> thanks | ||
| [2011/12/22 00:17:24] <jeremyb> http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/1/wiki/Cron_Patterns | ||
| [2011/12/22 00:18:00] <jeremyb> (there's even more ways to run it but i think cron and puppetd runs forever are the most common) | ||
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| [2011/12/22 00:18:18] <rjd_> what if I have a hundred servers running it from cron at the same time? :) | ||
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| [2011/12/22 00:22:05] <bd> rjd_: you don't, look at fqdn_rand() | ||
| [2011/12/22 00:22:59] <rjd_> thanks | ||
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| [2011/12/22 00:33:14] <codehotter> wilco: ping | ||
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| [2011/12/22 00:54:26] <rjd_> what is the most common way to differentiate nodes (database servers, web backends etc) to include proper configuration? | ||
| [2011/12/22 00:54:51] <rjd_> except matching the host names.. | ||
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| [2011/12/22 00:58:57] <codehotter> rjd_: we do it by hostname. Why don't you like to do it by hostname? | ||
| [2011/12/22 00:59:08] <codehotter> rjd_: you can also create classes for each type of server, then link the hostname to that class | ||
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| [2011/12/22 01:00:27] <Cirbri> If you subscribe a service to a directory, will it reload if anything in subdirectories of that directory are changed? | ||
| [2011/12/22 01:01:53] <codehotter> Cirbri: sorry to be unhelpful, Cirbri, but it sounds like that would be easy to test. | ||
| [2011/12/22 01:03:26] <ranjibd> Cirbri, depends upon the directory parameters | ||
| [2011/12/22 01:03:40] <ranjibd> Cirbri, recursive :true is set? | ||
| [2011/12/22 01:07:19] <Cirbri> ranjibd: Ah, right. | ||
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| [2011/12/22 01:22:07] <ubunter> hi there | ||
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| [2011/12/22 01:23:04] <ubunter> i have some issues with puppet 2.7.1 in ubuntu | ||
| [2011/12/22 01:23:13] <ubunter> can anyone help me plz | ||
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| [2011/12/22 01:23:52] <emdub> is this still true when specifying command line options: When using boolean settings on the command line, use --setting and --no-setting instead of --setting (true|false). ? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 01:24:17] <emdub> i was trying to disable ansi color output but --no-color doesn't work, however --color=false does | ||
| [2011/12/22 01:25:17] <ubunter> why 2.7.1 puppet client hangs for a while with a master of the same version under ubuntu? | ||
| [2011/12/22 01:26:36] <ubunter> erm, hello? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 01:39:11] <Dominic> emdub: color is a config option (it's in puppet agent --genconfig) and has multiple values, ansi, html and false, so isn't a simple boolean. I'm not sure if the --no-* pattern applies to config settings, only arguments. | ||
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| [2011/12/22 01:41:29] <emdub> Dominic: i was using it on the command line | ||
| [2011/12/22 01:42:08] <Dominic> emdub: yes, all config options can be passed on the command line.. it's still a config option underneath though | ||
| [2011/12/22 01:43:14] <emdub> oh i see what you're saying | ||
| [2011/12/22 01:43:17] <emdub> thats probably true | ||
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| [2011/12/22 02:05:12] <rjd_> codehotter: all servers are named <company><incremental number>, hence Im looking for another way :-) | ||
| [2011/12/22 02:05:58] <nevyn> rjd_: buy a book of babynames | ||
| [2011/12/22 02:07:12] <Rapeseed> Mitt Romney has what it takes from his private sector experience to fix American healthcare! Our next president must repeal Obamacare and replace it with market-based reforms that empower states and individuals and reduce health care costs. States and private markets, not the federal government, hold the key to improving our health care system. Vote Mitt Romney for President 2012! http://www.mittromney.com | ||
| [2011/12/22 02:07:14] <rjd_> nevyn: I was not around when that policy was formed | ||
| [2011/12/22 02:07:36] * nevyn hates corporate server naming | ||
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| [2011/12/22 02:07:55] <nevyn> it always ends up as a mess where you have encoded data in the name which is just wrong | ||
| [2011/12/22 02:07:59] <rjd_> I guess I will have to introduce aliases | ||
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| [2011/12/22 02:08:07] <Dominic> rjd_: do you have an inventory database of some sort? You could link it to puppet easily via an ENC script. | ||
| [2011/12/22 02:08:44] <rjd_> Dominic: I do not, but I wouldn't mind creating one. | ||
| [2011/12/22 02:09:30] <Dominic> I think that's the way to go. We have a similar naming scheme and have servers registered in a db before they can be built with their OS/role/config policies etc. | ||
| [2011/12/22 02:09:44] <Dominic> then you're simply enforcing config based on the database | ||
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| [2011/12/22 02:10:12] * nevyn is trying to make the config management team add the few entries he needs to the cmdb | ||
| [2011/12/22 02:10:23] <rjd_> What kind of db are we talking about? Some custom sql database, or actually using a tool for inventory from which db you then extract the servers and roles? | ||
| [2011/12/22 02:11:06] <nevyn> rjd_: so I havn't used it for a while but gmpq would be interesting to try and do this with | ||
| [2011/12/22 02:12:44] <nevyn> GLPI rather | ||
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| [2011/12/22 02:12:56] <nevyn> http://www.glpi-project.org/spip.php?lang=en | ||
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| [2011/12/22 02:15:00] <Dominic> rjd_: I didn't have anything in particular in mind... ours is a hokey text file + script system (to pull info from AD, DNS etc), but it does do the job. There are proper inventory and CMDB type tools out there though. | ||
| [2011/12/22 02:15:46] <rjd_> Dominic: yup, I'll be looking at such. Can you point me to documentation of this ENC thing? | ||
| [2011/12/22 02:16:00] <Dominic> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/external_nodes.html | ||
| [2011/12/22 02:17:33] <rjd_> thanks! | ||
| [2011/12/22 02:20:49] <rjd_> nevyn: glpi seems pretty neat, thanks | ||
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| [2011/12/22 03:09:14] <san__> hi | ||
| [2011/12/22 03:09:45] <san__> can the puppet dashboard be customized using language other than ruby ? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 03:15:10] <mzi> san__: probably, depending on what you want to do. but why? what do you want to do? | ||
| [2011/12/22 03:16:03] <san__> i need many more information that what is actually provide r8 now | ||
| [2011/12/22 03:16:04] <gepetto> san__: r8 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/repositories/revision/puppet/8 "Revision 8ec60864" | ||
| [2011/12/22 03:17:51] <Cirbri> I'm having trouble using the override with an array. I.e File[ $array ] { tag => "foo" } | ||
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| [2011/12/22 03:18:07] <Cirbri> Is it possible? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 03:19:52] <Cirbri> Nevermind, I'm having other problems. | ||
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| [2011/12/22 05:04:19] <Raboo> hello | ||
| [2011/12/22 05:04:36] <Raboo> does puppet use ruby's built in openssl support? | ||
| [2011/12/22 05:05:22] <Raboo> i'm guessing it does since communicates with asymetric encryption? | ||
| [2011/12/22 05:05:35] <nevyn> yes | ||
| [2011/12/22 05:06:25] <Raboo> i'm trying to build ruby as a static binary | ||
| [2011/12/22 05:06:38] <Raboo> it fails when it tries to build in openssl | ||
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| [2011/12/22 05:14:05] <codehotter> Raboo: if you don't mind me asking, why are you trying to build ruby as a static binary? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 05:18:40] <Raboo> codehotter so i can use one ruby-libs rpm for both suse and redhat | ||
| [2011/12/22 05:19:24] <codehotter> OK | ||
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| [2011/12/22 06:06:15] <erthad> hiall | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:06:43] <erthad> is it possible to assign stage for a class from inside it but not when including it? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 06:09:54] <pctony> g'day folks | ||
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| [2011/12/22 06:10:37] <pctony> I recently upgraded to 2.7.1 (Ubuntu oneiric) from natty (2.6.x) and the puppetmaster node is no longer storing facts for the clients. Am I missing something obvious? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 06:12:08] <ranamalo> I want to install a package only if a certain file is present. what's the best way to do that? I was thinking if "test -f /my/file", but that doesn't work | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:12:30] <pctony> ranamalo: it should, I use it here | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:12:31] <codehotter> ranamalo: why doesn't that work? | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:12:36] <pctony> or used too atleast | ||
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| [2011/12/22 06:14:17] <ranamalo> pctony, codehotter, the it doesn't give an error, but still tries to install the pacakge even though the file is not there | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:14:30] <codehotter> ranamalo: can you pastebin your exact code? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 06:16:04] <ranamalo> codehotter: http://pastebin.com/YCh8hCbV | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:17:39] <ranamalo> well it does error: http://pastebin.com/qY2ZxHQZ | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:18:16] <ranamalo> because it can't find the package that i don't want it to install if that repo is not there | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:19:19] <codehotter> ranamalo: does my.repo come out of puppet? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 06:19:48] <ranamalo> codehotter: puppet removes it for this template | ||
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| [2011/12/22 06:19:59] <codehotter> you could simply depend on the file definition | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:20:19] <ranamalo> hmmm how? | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:20:29] <ranamalo> subscribe? | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:21:27] <ranamalo> pctony: is my code the same way you use it? | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:22:49] <codehotter> so, hold on, puppet removes that file, and at the same time, installs a package that depends on that file? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 06:24:58] <ranamalo> codehotter: this is a base class I use for many templates. Most of them need that package, but some don't, and I remove the repo on those servers, so if I remove the repo it don't want it to try to install that package | ||
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| [2011/12/22 06:26:37] <ranamalo> correction: so if I remove the repo i don't want it to try to install that package | ||
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| [2011/12/22 06:29:49] * conntrack will be taking no shit in the new year :) | ||
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| [2011/12/22 06:32:11] <conntrack> 2 weeks | ||
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| [2011/12/22 06:36:32] <ranamalo> codehotter: so what do you mean depend on the file definition? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 06:36:43] <codehotter> Well it wouldn't work for your requirement | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:36:50] <codehotter> although it's confusing me a little bit | ||
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| [2011/12/22 06:40:02] <codehotter> I would try to not run the Package class on systems where you don't want to install the package... the more conventional way of doing things is that if the package requires that file, to have puppet create that file first before installing the package | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:40:06] <codehotter> I'm sure there's a way to do what you want, though. | ||
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| [2011/12/22 06:41:23] <codehotter> ranamalo: what about running an exec with an 'onlyif' requirement? | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:41:37] <codehotter> exec yum -y install package onlyif test -f blabla | ||
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| [2011/12/22 06:43:04] <ranamalo> codehotter: thanks for the suggestion. I wish package had the onlyif deal | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:43:45] <Dominic> there's no need for it to, you're using puppet incorrectly. If you don't want the resource, don't put it in the class or don't include the class on that node. | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:44:05] <Dominic> if you really must try and do this, you could create a custom fact for whether a file exists and then test that instead | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:44:19] <Dominic> but it's an anti-pattern, you're trying to write a shell script in puppet | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:45:08] <aricg> ruby-shadow should be a puppet dependency on centos 5.7 (Provider useradd does not support features manages_passwords; not managing attribute password) | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:46:12] <bd> can I run hooks after an agent has applied it's catalog? preferably I'd like to have a passive nagios check on successfully agent runs | ||
| [2011/12/22 06:46:35] <Dominic> bd: there's a config setting called "postrun_command", call a script from that | ||
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| [2011/12/22 06:46:50] <bd> Dominic: thx | ||
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| [2011/12/22 07:51:57] <jabba> good morning | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:52:27] <jabba> I'm getting a strange error when trying to use an ssh_authorized_keys resource. It is working on all my machines except one | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:52:33] <jabba> one sec, I'll pastebin it | ||
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| [2011/12/22 07:53:39] <jabba> http://jabba.pastebin.mozilla.org/1416255 | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:53:46] <jabba> anyone run into this before ^ ? | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:53:53] <jabba> I know these types of errors can be misleading | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:54:04] <jabba> I've already checked disk space and that I can create the file manually, etc. | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:54:50] <aricg> hmm why is it creating a temp file in /root/ ? | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:54:56] <jabba> I don't know :) | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:55:04] <jabba> I assume this is just something that puppet does | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:55:44] <jabba> --debug doesn't give me anything useful either, at least not that I understand | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:55:59] <jabba> I've tried uninstalling and re-installing puppet on this host as well | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:56:18] <jabba> and this is a manifest I've pushed out to all of my ~1000 machines, and this one doesn't like it for some reason ... | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:56:35] <Dominic> is SELinux or similar enabled? | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:56:48] <Dominic> and how are you launching Puppet? Could TMPDIR or something be set in the environment? | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:57:46] <jabba> selinux is not enabled, that I can tell | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:58:06] <aricg> could not write /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys -- is your user really called user? | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:58:13] <jabba> no | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:58:16] <aricg> k | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:58:20] <jabba> I changed it for the pastebin :) | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:58:52] <aricg> i would try setting /root/ to o+rw just for one run | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:59:02] <jabba> how can I check the environment? normally puppet runs from cron, but I also log in and run "puppet agent --test" and get the same result | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:59:37] <Dominic> run "env"? | ||
| [2011/12/22 07:59:42] <mzi> "env" | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:00:02] <jabba> chonging /root to o+w didn't help | ||
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| [2011/12/22 08:00:11] * jabba changes back before he forgets | ||
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| [2011/12/22 08:01:01] <jabba> I don't see anything like TMPDIR or similar in the output of env | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:01:40] <_rc> this is a known bug, just rummaging to find the id | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:02:43] <_rc> http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/10850 | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:02:44] <jabba> this is a rhel5 system, if that sets off any "oh yeah, this is known on rhel5" ideas.. | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:02:48] <jabba> thx | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:03:25] <jabba> cool, I'll investigate | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:03:30] <jabba> thx for the help so far | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:03:47] <_rc> it's known in 2.7.newish, one bugfix shook this one out | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:03:57] <jabba> I'm on 2.7.5 | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:04:07] <jabba> I can try upgrading | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:04:27] <_rc> you could, but that ticket isn't marked as fixed in any version | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:04:42] <jabba> well, if I can fix it manually I'll do that. it is just this one server out of many | ||
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| [2011/12/22 08:21:17] <karthick87> I am unable to register the client with puppetmaster. can anyone help me pls. | ||
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| [2011/12/22 08:21:58] <aricg> karthick87 can you pastie the error? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 08:25:13] <karthick87> aricg: I just want to verify whether the client is joined with master or not? how to check? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 08:25:55] <aricg> karthick87 the logs. | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:26:42] <karthick87> aricg: what about this command ? sudo puppetca -all | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:27:22] <aricg> karthick87, I believe you need to read the documentation. | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:28:07] <karthick87> aricg: Where can i get the documentation | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:29:32] <aricg> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/ | ||
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| [2011/12/22 08:33:35] <de_> howdy | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:34:11] <de_> is it possible to instantiate a puppet class twice with different parameters from the same file? | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:34:15] <de_> if so - how? | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:34:27] <ashp> no. | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:34:43] <ashp> classes are singletons or whatever the term is | ||
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| [2011/12/22 08:35:17] <joe-mac> singleton would be an accurate term | ||
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| [2011/12/22 08:35:34] <joe-mac> they are also containers more than they are classes in the traditional sense | ||
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| [2011/12/22 08:35:47] <de_> so lets say i have a web server defined and want it to run in the same configuration on a second port. it is not possible to reinstantiate the module with different port? | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:35:48] <joe-mac> if you need more than one of what is conceptually a similar thing, like a traditional class, look at the 'define' keyword | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:37:28] <Hunner> de_: yep, that's specifically what defined resources are for... when you need the same thing more than once but a little different | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:38:30] <de_> you mean theese function type things with "define myserver {..."? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 08:39:17] <Hunner> yep | ||
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| [2011/12/22 08:52:58] <de_> thx for your help Hunner :) | ||
| [2011/12/22 08:53:03] <de_> bye | ||
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| [2011/12/22 09:08:06] <xian_> Hi everyone. I have a question. I'm trying to use a common sshd module. It sets various bits of the sshd conf file from the template with puppet variables | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:08:16] <xian_> I have a common set of variables and tried to set them in a custom class: | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:08:44] <xian_> class ssh-local inherits sshd { $sshd_use_pam = "yes" } | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:08:49] <xian_> and then for my node: | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:09:42] <xian_> node whatever ( $sshd_allowed_users = "root", include ssh-local } | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:09:57] <xian_> the allowed_users bit is getting passed, but not my pam setting | ||
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| [2011/12/22 09:10:10] <xian_> I don't know what I am doing wrong in my syntax | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:10:12] <xian_> any ideas? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 09:12:50] <mzi> are your plan to use $ssh-local::ssh_use_pam in sshd? | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:13:19] <xian_> yeah. I'm just trying to set variables common to all hosts once | ||
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| [2011/12/22 09:13:27] <xian_> so each host only has to declare what makes them special | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:14:15] <xian_> like the $sshd_use_pam = "yes" setting | ||
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| [2011/12/22 09:15:36] <mzi> I think you have a scoping issue. why not use a parameterized class instead? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 09:41:36] <semiosis> is anyone here using puppet-iptables? or managing iptables rules with puppet some other way? | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:41:48] <aricg> i am | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:42:47] <semiosis> aricg: i'm just getting started with it, on ubuntu, and it seems to be interpreting my iptables resources, but not having any effect on iptables | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:42:53] <aricg> hmmm | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:43:14] <semiosis> i tried adding blah=>foo as a param to one, and it did barf on the bad param, so i know the module is loaded | ||
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| [2011/12/22 09:44:29] <henk> I’m using ferm. IMHO much easier than using iptables directly, especially with puppet… | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:44:50] <aricg> semiosis, heres an example init.pp i know works http://privatepaste.com/91cd5cba37 | ||
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| [2011/12/22 09:45:43] <semiosis> aricg: does this example work on ubuntu? | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:45:56] <aricg> yep, and centos | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:46:02] <semiosis> great | ||
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| [2011/12/22 09:47:04] <aricg> its an example to be used with "puppet-iptables" | ||
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| [2011/12/22 09:47:37] <aricg> ls | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:48:08] <semiosis> aricg: a ha! line 53 is the secret sauce :D | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:48:22] <henk> http://ferm.foo-projects.org/ | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:48:24] <semiosis> aricg: you provide /etc/init.d/puppet-iptables on ubuntu/debian | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:48:52] <semiosis> aricg: where on cent/redhat/fedora there is /etc/init.d/iptables | ||
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| [2011/12/22 09:50:20] <semiosis> that seems to be important | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:51:03] <aricg> semiosis, it is already in init.d on centos, but not ubuntu\ | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:51:10] <aricg> so we add it for ubuntu | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:52:57] <semiosis> hmm i dont have that, would that explain why my rules are not being executed? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 09:54:20] <aricg> you dont have it on centos? | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:54:26] <semiosis> i'm on ubuntu | ||
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| [2011/12/22 09:54:56] <aricg> semiosis, puppet will add it | ||
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| [2011/12/22 09:56:03] <semiosis> do i need it for puppet-iptables to work? | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:56:14] <semiosis> because my puppet does not add it right now | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:56:16] <aricg> semiosis the file is included with puppet-iptables | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:56:30] <aricg> but ill pastie it here | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:56:32] <semiosis> oh, let me check that | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:56:41] <aricg> http://privatepaste.com/f2346fe7a0 | ||
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| [2011/12/22 09:57:31] <semiosis> i just cloned the puppet-iptables git repo from github, and all i got was the iptables.rb type provider, it did not come with anything else | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:57:50] <aricg> oh.. odd. i dont remeber where i got mine | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:58:03] <aricg> can you link the one from github you got? | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:59:09] <semiosis> https://github.com/camptocamp/puppet-iptables is the project root, the type provider is https://github.com/camptocamp/puppet-iptables/blob/master/lib/puppet/type/iptables.rb | ||
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| [2011/12/22 09:59:46] <aricg> semiosis, yeah thats the wrong one.. | ||
| [2011/12/22 09:59:57] <semiosis> awesome | ||
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| [2011/12/22 10:00:57] <semiosis> where can i find the right one? | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:01:12] <aricg> i dunno. i dont see it on github.. but I think thats where i got it.. | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:01:37] <aricg> if you just add http://privatepaste.com/f2346fe7a0 to file/puppet-iptables | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:01:39] <aricg> it should work | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:02:22] <semiosis> oh ok i understand. i thought you meant i had the wrong iptables type provider | ||
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| [2011/12/22 10:03:12] <aricg> yeah the one i grabbed has the same lib/ files it just had a bunch of other stuff. like manifests and whatnot | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:03:54] <aricg> you need to have pluginsync=true | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:04:13] <semiosis> yeah that part works | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:04:41] <semiosis> i enabled debug and i can see it is correctly building iptables commands from my resources, it just never executes them | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:05:09] <aricg> has it added /etc/init.d/iptables yet? | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:05:25] <savid> Odd, I used to be able to do this in a previous version of puppet: ensure => ($ensure and $has_init ) , but now I'm getting a syntax error on that line. I was under the assumption that it was a simple boolean expression and that puppet could handle that. Is that not the case anymore? | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:06:18] <semiosis> aricg: no i dont have that in my manifest, i didnt think i would need it, i'll give it a try | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:08:10] <agaffney> I should really start putting all these crazy modules I've written out on the internet, but I'm not sure that they're really usable "in the wild" | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:08:11] @ Quit: nan0r: Quit: Leaving. | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:08:46] <agaffney> yesterday, I wrote a module that just contains a define and a custom parser function that lets various hosts "register" values with a certain tag and then another host to "collect" those registrations for the tag | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:09:08] <agaffney> I'm using it for stuff like have my new DNS system automatically know the IPs for the master and slaves without hard-coding it anywhere | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:09:34] <agaffney> it works great, but it (ab)uses exported resources to do it | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:10:39] <agaffney> I've also got a gitosis management module that can manage gitosis from install all the way to creating new repos (with the first commit) and managing gitosis.conf with various groups, keys, and repos | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:10:46] <agaffney> but these things are full of hacks | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:11:20] <semiosis> agaffney: puppet is full of hacks too so you're in good company | ||
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| [2011/12/22 10:14:15] <semiosis> aricg: thanks for trying but that iptables initscript didnt solve the problem | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:14:47] <semiosis> aricg: its like i'm missing some magical "wantittowork => yesplease" parameter on my iptables resources! | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:14:51] <aricg> semiosis is the initscript in place now? | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:14:58] <aricg> on your box? | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:15:00] <semiosis> yeah | ||
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| [2011/12/22 10:15:15] <aricg> you included # include puppet-firewall::hostfw | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:15:17] <semiosis> eh, thought so, but not yet... slow puppet run | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:16:16] <aricg> and you have a /etc/puppet/iptables on the nodes? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 10:27:56] <semiosis> aricg: ok yeah, so now i have the initscript and also the /etc/puppet/iptables folder, all set up, but still no rules being executed | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:28:16] <semiosis> aricg: which makes sense, because there's nothing in the type provider i can find that references that folder or the iptables service | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:28:38] <semiosis> nothing in your manifest suggests they're related either | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:28:46] <aricg> include puppet-firewall::http ? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 10:29:00] <semiosis> i'm not using your manifest, but a simpler one | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:29:24] <semiosis> its not the manifest thats the problem, its the type provider | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:29:41] <semiosis> what ubuntu version/release do you use? | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:29:49] <semiosis> i'm using 11.10 oneiric | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:29:54] <aricg> 10.04 | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:30:00] <semiosis> which puppet version? | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:30:04] <semiosis> i'm using 2.7.1 | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:30:23] <aricg> whichever is provided by the puppetlabs repo | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:30:25] * semiosis thinks thats the problem | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:30:35] <semiosis> aricg: heh | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:30:35] <aricg> 2.7.9 | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:30:36] <semiosis> ok | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:30:42] <semiosis> maybe i need to upgrade | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:30:43] <semiosis> :( | ||
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| [2011/12/22 10:37:13] <mw46> anybody know how to make a provider use a command conditionally? Problem, the useradd provider now depends on the chage command which does not exist in Solaris:-( | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:37:52] <mw46> so the whole provider does not work any longer (2.7.9):-( | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:38:57] <Dominic> mw46: on Solaris it should be using the user_role_add provider, which overrides commands like chage from the useradd provider | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:39:13] <Dominic> are you explicitly specifying the provider? | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:39:32] <mw46> don't think so but let me check | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:40:28] <mw46> yes, I do in that case:-( | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:41:06] <Dominic> ah ok, best to let it autodetect or add in a selector for Solaris | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:41:21] <mw46> I'll try that now;-) | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:41:34] * semiosis gives up on puppet-iptables | ||
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| [2011/12/22 10:42:02] <mw46> just trying to upgrade from 0.25.5 -> 2.7.9 ;-) | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:42:10] <mw46> and running into such problems | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:42:18] <Dominic> big jump :) | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:42:28] @ Quit: kermit: Quit: Leaving. | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:43:50] <mw46> yes:-) let's say I'm officially only a dev, trying to keep our boxes upn in my spare time:-( | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:44:22] <mw46> ok, that solved it, thanks Dominic;-) | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:44:24] <semiosis> puppet does some great stuff, but it sure does have issues with quality control. so many bugs, so many regressions | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:45:14] <aricg> everyone should use the puppetlabs repo /twocents | ||
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| [2011/12/22 10:50:49] <vocis> where is it? | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:50:57] <pctony> mzi: FYI, upgrading to 2.7.9 sorted a few issues - but it was ultimately an issue with adding users that was the root cause | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:50:59] <brd> I have to figure out how I am going to do a 0.24.8 -> 2.7.latest someday | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:51:15] <pctony> brd: I did 2.6.x to 2.7.1 the other day | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:51:27] <pctony> it was a clusterfuck of a mess. For one reason alone. | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:51:40] <pctony> We had not been using puppet-lint for a long time | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:51:57] <pctony> grab latest puppet-lint and fix against that | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:52:23] @ Quit: paxos: Quit: Leaving. | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:52:28] <Dominic> pctony: what sort of things went wrong? | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:52:53] <pctony> Dominic: string to array errors for one ;) | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:53:22] <pctony> in the user feature | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:53:32] <pctony> and then variable scoping | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:53:42] <pctony> those were the two biggest issues | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:53:46] <brd> pctony: puppet-lint? I haven't heard of that.. I will have to check it out | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:53:52] <Dominic> pctony: ah ok, interesting, ta | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:53:52] <mzi> pctony: nice that you solved it! if you have a solid case, do a bug report for that message. | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:53:53] <pctony> brd: its a rubygem | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:54:06] <brd> pctony: great, thanks! | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:54:19] <pctony> big props to mzi for holding my hand throught he pain | ||
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| [2011/12/22 10:55:35] <brd> nice | ||
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| [2011/12/22 10:59:08] <pctony> brd: "find . -name init.pp -print -exec puppet-lint '{}' ';' | less" | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:59:21] <pctony> from the root of your puppet repo | ||
| [2011/12/22 10:59:35] <pctony> s/init.pp/*.pp/ too perhaps | ||
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| [2011/12/22 11:00:17] <pctony> I now have that as part of the svn pre-commit hook (modified for the file, not the whoel repo) and if there are ERRORs (dont care about WARNs) the commit will fail | ||
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| [2011/12/22 11:00:25] <brd> pctony: ok, cool I'll put that in my notes | ||
| [2011/12/22 11:00:37] <brd> pctony: ah, good idea as well.. might as well stop it there | ||
| [2011/12/22 11:00:37] <pctony> and the usual puppet parse option | ||
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| [2011/12/22 11:01:06] <pctony> so commits to the puppet branch of my repo is a little slow - but it filters out the stupidity | ||
| [2011/12/22 11:01:37] <pctony> anyhoo | ||
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| [2011/12/22 11:01:43] <pctony> before I go on anymore.... | ||
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| [2011/12/22 11:04:58] <brd> pctony: nah, all good suggestions | ||
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| [2011/12/22 11:29:41] <juve> ciao | ||
| [2011/12/22 11:29:48] <juve> lista | ||
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| [2011/12/22 11:34:05] @ stahnma set topic "Puppet Enterprise 2.0 is out: http://bit.ly/PE_2 | Puppet 2.7.9 and 2.6.13 available at downloads.puppetlabs.com | http://docs.puppetlabs.com | Bugs & Feature Requests http://bit.ly/dKVa0A | December Newsletter http://bit.ly/nl11-12 | Important Security Announcement: http://bit.ly/AltNames" | ||
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| [2011/12/22 11:37:56] <jpalmer> can puppet use multiple ENC's? or just one? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 11:38:20] <ashp> you're an evil man :D | ||
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| [2011/12/22 11:44:22] <sdog> wondering if there is a way already to upload a bunch of modules to forge automatically .. | ||
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| [2011/12/22 11:45:23] <eric0> jpalmer: just one, but you could have that one fan out if you needed to | ||
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| [2011/12/22 11:45:46] <eric0> jpalmer: when we migrated ENCs we made the new one invoke the old one and return its output if the node wasnt found | ||
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| [2011/12/22 12:21:33] <bluemustard> I am trying to find a module that will allow me to pull files from an Amazon S3 bucket, I tried this http://bit.ly/rCO1xq from puppet labs but can't get it to work | ||
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| [2011/12/22 12:46:55] <jpalmer> eric0: ahh, thanks for the response. And.. that makes sense. | ||
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| [2011/12/22 13:03:00] <kangman> trying to certify a node to puppet master but getting this error err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: SSL_connect returned=1 errno=0 state=SSLv3 read | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:03:39] <kangman> https://gist.github.com/fe0c95374923e7bfeb43 | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:03:43] <kangman> any takers? | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:04:48] <jpalmer> kangman: make sure the time is set correctly on both master and agent. | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:05:01] <kangman> oh wow really? | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:05:09] <jpalmer> for real | ||
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| [2011/12/22 13:08:39] <kangman> jpalmer: thanks, it was real | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:09:04] <jpalmer> ;) ran into it myself earlier today. | ||
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| [2011/12/22 13:09:24] <jpalmer> I'd suggest setting up ntpd on all your puppet agents, so they don't skew too badly | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:09:31] <kangman> yeah for sure | ||
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| [2011/12/22 13:10:42] <jpalmer> kangman: what I do: I have the kickstart run an ntpdate against pool.ntp.org. then bootstraps puppet. on the first puppet run, I have an ntpd module that configures and starts that service. | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:10:55] <jpalmer> grab a ntpd module from the forge. a few to choose from there. | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:11:16] <kangman> epel would have? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 13:13:27] <kangman> jpalmer: happy holidays! thanks i will do this right away. | ||
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| [2011/12/22 13:19:17] <shuff> hey folks, i'm trying to write a custom function for Kerberos keytab distribution (vaguely following the suggested solution here: http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/browse_thread/thread/e4c2d37a49f1b597/c451a215a9a34da0) | ||
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| [2011/12/22 13:20:08] <shuff> unfortunately, the keytab content is in a binary format, and i think i'm running into problem transmitting the binary data from the master to the client node | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:20:36] <ashp> I wish it was easier to model N clusters of a product whereby the nodes of each cluster would discover the right hostname to connect to for say, the database | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:20:46] <ashp> as it's a pain in the ass to model this for dev/testing/staging/qa/prod | ||
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| [2011/12/22 13:21:25] <shuff> ashp: maybe use environments? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 13:21:58] <agaffney> ashp: for something like that, I usually create a module::variables class that will see which "environment" you're in and set the values accordingly | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:22:09] <agaffney> and then reference those values from the other manifests | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:22:16] <agaffney> you can also use something like extlookup or hiera | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:22:22] <ashp> agaffney: I've been trying to seperate out the variable stuff from manifests so I tend to use foreman smart variables for it | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:22:31] <ashp> but it's still wicked clumsy due to one reason - can't use wildcards! | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:22:38] <ashp> so I can't do fqdn = integration-* or anything | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:22:59] <ashp> I could match on environments but I am not actually well geared up for that, I only just added dev/test as actual environments | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:23:04] <ashp> I guess it's the best way to do it, in the long run | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:23:05] <agaffney> wildcards for what? | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:23:19] <ashp> agaffney: in foreman you can attach variables to classes | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:23:21] <agaffney> if $fqdn ~ /^integration-/ { | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:23:30] <agaffney> I don't use foreman | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:23:34] <agaffney> or any sort of ENC | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:23:34] <agaffney> yet | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:23:34] <ashp> then you have the matching criteria in foreman like: fqdn=x, domain=x, location=x, stuff like that | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:23:44] <agaffney> ah, I see | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:23:47] <agaffney> then write your own ENC | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:23:50] <ashp> the best option would be to probably switch over to using environments more intensively | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:23:51] <agaffney> that supports wildcards | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:23:57] <ashp> nah, patching up foreman would be easier :) | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:24:06] <ashp> and we're just hiring someone willing to write ruby, muhahaha, poor sod | ||
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| [2011/12/22 13:24:22] <agaffney> ashp: poor sod, indeed | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:24:42] <shuff> srsly | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:24:52] <agaffney> I despise ruby as a language | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:24:54] <ashp> I'm just bad at ruby so I'm glad to hand it off to someone else | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:24:57] <agaffney> I only tolerate it because of puppet | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:25:06] <ashp> i'm not a fan of ruby and today I found out someone I know who has a 10k+ cfengine deployment | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:25:13] <agaffney> and I know just enough ruby to write all my custom facts, parser functions, etc. | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:25:16] <ashp> refused to evaluate puppet because of ruby | ||
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| [2011/12/22 13:25:24] <agaffney> ashp: I'll eventually be to that scale with puppet | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:25:26] <ashp> 10k+ nodes, that is | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:25:35] <agaffney> I'm currently only at ~500 | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:25:37] <ashp> It's just sad that ruby keeps people away | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:25:40] <agaffney> but we'll be quickly ramping up | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:25:54] <agaffney> if it weren't for puppet, I'd abolish ruby from my servers | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:25:59] <ashp> that's awesome, let me know how scaling turns out | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:26:13] <alop> quick question, with a true/false fact, can I just do 'if ! $fact { }' ? | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:26:23] <ashp> agaffney: I've said it before and I'll say it again, my secret hope is someone is out there making a drop-in puppet replacement as an alternative implementation, in another language :D | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:26:32] <agaffney> heh | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:26:35] <agaffney> it'll never happen | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:26:39] <eric0> implementation language should be a factor in evaluating a product, certainly. but "refuses to consider" is pretty self-limiting. | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:26:43] <agaffney> I'd much rather see puppet written in python, but alas | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:26:44] <ashp> doubt it, but .. fondest dream | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:26:53] <ashp> eric0: Well I think it was more like "we thought about it but decided we hate ruby" | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:26:59] <agaffney> I personally prefer perl, but it wouldn't be suitable for something like puppet | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:27:11] <eric0> agaffney: looked at bcfg2? its a pretty good project that is top to bottom python | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:27:13] <ashp> you.. you monster :O | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:27:22] <ashp> I can only imagine the horror of puppet in perl :D | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:27:26] <agaffney> eric0: nah, I'm happy with puppet and have no reason to change | ||
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| [2011/12/22 13:27:38] <agaffney> I've invested 3+ years in puppet, and I'm good at it ;) | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:28:18] <ashp> Yeah, that's where I am | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:28:30] <ashp> even if a better product came along I would hate to reinvent the wheel and rebuild everything | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:28:38] <ashp> I'm barely competent in Puppet after ~3-4 years | ||
| [2011/12/22 13:28:42] <ashp> i don't need to start over | ||
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| [2011/12/22 13:48:26] <zahna> does extlookup not work inside a class when called using the parameterized class syntax? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 13:58:37] <Volcane> zahna: surprisingly describing your complex problem in english is orders of magnitute less helpful than showing a line or 2 of code on pastie | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:02:11] <zahna> Volcane: it's actually not a complex problem. and i just found my answer, which is "yes". the cause of my problem turned out to be a missing ending bracket on an array of classes. | ||
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| [2011/12/22 14:05:51] <failure> hmm isnt this suppose to work ? groups => ["adm","sudo"] (in the user function) | ||
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| [2011/12/22 14:08:14] <agaffney> failure: according to the type reference document, yes | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:08:36] <agaffney> however, you have to provide the primary group via the 'gid' parameter and then exclude it from the 'groups' parameter | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:09:30] <failure> hnn | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:09:31] <failure> hmm | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:09:47] <failure> strange becouse if i just have one group in groups it is working | ||
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| [2011/12/22 14:10:50] <failure> ah | ||
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| [2011/12/22 14:10:59] <failure> or this is just working when it creating the user | ||
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| [2011/12/22 14:13:44] <tty00> failure :) | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:14:09] <zahna> are significantly different code paths taken when calling a class with "include <classname>" versus "class { "<classname>": }"? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 14:18:25] <Dewin> Do resource names have to be globally unique, or is it legal to have two classes that each, say, independantly generate a file resource with the same name (but different paths)? | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:18:57] <failure> tty00: help, are you in here :) | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:19:12] <Dewin> zahna: I thought I read that the include method is going away or somesuch. | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:19:22] @ Quit: verwilst: Quit: Ex-Chat | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:19:58] <Dewin> And the latter method is the only way to use parameterized classes | ||
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| [2011/12/22 14:20:39] <Dewin> Answered my own question | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:20:40] <zahna> Dewin: ah, ok. then it's a good thing that i'm switching over to the new syntax. i was just wondering how different the process from a code path perspective when compiling a manifest | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:20:49] <ryancoleman> Dewin: Check out http://docs.puppetlabs.com/learning/manifests.html#titles-and-namevars | ||
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| [2011/12/22 14:21:34] <Dewin> I just realized that something I was doing was likely to create accidental name collisions down the road. | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:21:43] <Volcane> u cant class{"foo": } twice ont he same host, but you can inlcude multiple times | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:22:07] <Volcane> thats a significant issue, u can though class{"foo":} once then later include foo | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:22:32] <Dewin> I'll go ahead and ask the other question I had, though I think I'm going to wrap it into a define anyways... | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:22:46] <Volcane> but the new syntax has to come first | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:23:08] <Volcane> which given puppets non deterministic parse ordering means its unusable unless you do all class{} syntax in the node block | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:23:12] <tty00> failure: stop following me! | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:23:17] <Volcane> which yields massively complex non dry node blocks | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:23:18] <tty00> ;) | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:23:34] <Dewin> I'm trying to do the equivalent of file { [ a, b, c ]: path => "${rootdir}/${name} .... } in a manifest, but it doesn't work and pulls the $name of the containing class instead. I know I can work around that by wrapping it in a define (which is what I'm now going to do anyways), but is there a simpler way? | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:23:50] <Volcane> Dewin: need to use a define | ||
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| [2011/12/22 14:26:17] <clustermagnet> hey guys, when i see : "Report processor failed: Connection refused - connect(2)" in master error logs | ||
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| [2011/12/22 14:26:33] <clustermagnet> does this mean that the report could not be passed along to puppet dashboard? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 14:29:12] <Volcane> yes | ||
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| [2011/12/22 14:29:41] <clustermagnet> Volcane: thank you :) | ||
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| [2011/12/22 14:43:32] <yann2> can we use "tags" with any exported resource, or just with files? | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:43:39] <Dewin> Hmm. A define within a class does not appear to use the class's scope for variables, and using template() within that define searches the main template directory rather than modules/classname/templates. I don't think I'm going to be able to use defines for this after all. | ||
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| [2011/12/22 14:44:22] <agaffney> yann2: yes, you can tag exported resources | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:44:30] <yann2> k thanks | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:44:33] <agaffney> however, you can only collect based on a single tag | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:44:36] <agaffney> so keep that in mind | ||
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| [2011/12/22 14:47:59] <yann2> i can collect based on a single tag, or i can put only a single tag on exported resources? | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:49:08] <failure> hmm im getting nowwhere with this user: groups => [ "group1", "group2" ] <-- is this only when puppet creates the user or can it change it afterwords ? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 14:50:51] <failure> i have read the user section here: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/2.6.2/type.html and google alot but no luck | ||
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| [2011/12/22 14:52:19] <agaffney> yann2: you can have multiple tags when you export it, but you can only specify one when collecting | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:52:36] <agaffney> failure: try groups => 'group1,group2' instead | ||
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| [2011/12/22 14:57:58] <duritong> hmm, how do I figure out with facter 1.6 that i'm on a kvm host? | ||
| [2011/12/22 14:58:31] <duritong> not on a guest, on "hypervisor" | ||
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| [2011/12/22 14:59:43] <Dominic> duritong: there's nothing I can think of that would indicate that. You'd have to make a new fact that perhaps queried libvirt (or similar mgmt API), scanned for qemu-kvm processes or something - though even that's all hinging on having VMs configured/running. | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:00:00] <Dominic> duritong: I suppose it depends if you're testing for something that's "capable" of it, or is configured for it | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:00:33] <duritong> Dominic: yeah, custom fact is probably my solution | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:00:52] <failure> agaffney: no luck with that :/ | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:01:34] <failure> agaffney: im running puppet 2.6.2-5+squeeze3 | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:02:39] <mzi> failure: try [ "group1", "group2" ], | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:02:58] <failure> mzi: done that and it isnt updating my groups | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:03:19] <mzi> failure: with the white spaces? | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:03:30] <failure> mzi: yes | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:03:40] <mzi> failure: and the groups exists? | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:03:54] <failure> mzi: yes, it a system group tho, "sudo" | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:04:55] <mzi> you should --trace it and see what it does. I've done the same thing since 0.24.x and it has always worked... | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:05:26] <failure> ok | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:05:32] <failure> so it is working when i create the user | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:05:36] <failure> put it will not update it | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:06:40] <mzi> and you don't do anything honky when you create the user? like your own define()? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:07:42] <mzi> just create a test.pp on your workstation with a standard user-type and run puppet apply test.pp on your machine. then update it and run again. | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:08:21] <failure> http://pastebin.com/3mkS4GmF | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:09:22] <failure> i have ubuntu on my ws, but maybe thats a good test anyway | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:12:34] <failure> ok so on my ubuntu this works | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:13:03] <failure> tho it dosnt remove me from the group that i removed, just adding | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:13:33] <failure> notice: /Stage[main]//User[patbat1]/groups: groups changed 'adm,sudo' to 'adm,root,sudo' | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:15:10] <vocis> anyone reading this who's using puppet with archlinux? | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:15:10] <failure> "puppet apply --verbose test.pp | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:15:11] <failure> info: Applying configuration version '1324595692' | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:15:23] <failure> and that on debian with puppet 2.6.2 | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:15:31] <failure> ubuntu is running 2.7.1 | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:15:41] <failure> so maybe update.... | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:16:47] <mzi> works on my 2.6.12 and has worked since anno dazumal | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:17:53] <mzi> run puppet apply --trace and see what happens. | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:18:28] <failure> puppet apply --verbose --trace test.pp | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:18:29] <failure> info: Applying configuration version '1324595900' | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:18:31] <failure> nothing | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:18:32] <failure> :/ | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:19:21] <failure> doh | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:19:23] <mzi> puppet agent, I mean agent! | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:19:33] <failure> maybe its a good thing to change the groups b4 running it :P | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:19:44] <failure> puppet apply --verbose --trace test.pp | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:19:45] <failure> info: Applying configuration version '1324595949' | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:19:45] <failure> notice: /Stage[main]//User[patbat1]/groups: groups changed 'adm,sudo' to 'adm,root,sudo' | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:19:47] <failure> that is working | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:20:03] <failure> but not when im running the code inside a class or a node | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:21:00] <mzi> failure: I meant puppet agent --trace on the node that dose't do as you wish. | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:22:02] <failure> err | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:22:04] <failure> it is working | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:22:21] <failure> it didnt work tho with puppet --debug --verbose site.pp | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:22:43] <mzi> --trace is just more output, does nothing fancy. | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:24:49] <failure> ok | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:24:53] <failure> thanks for the help mzi | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:25:10] <failure> but i just wonder why "puppet --debug --verbose site.pp" didnt apply the change | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:26:03] <mzi> you did something between the two tests? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:27:19] <failure> mzi: no | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:27:43] <failure> mzi: or what do you mean with that ? | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:27:57] <failure> mzi: the only thing i did was changing the groups to add one more | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:28:15] <mzi> failure: so this time you did it the right way? | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:28:35] <mzi> failure: do you have in version control so you can diff working/last revision? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:29:25] <eric0> augh anyone know offhand the bug# for 'pluginsync doesnt work with environments' ?? searching is useless | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:31:52] <failure> mzi: nope :( | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:32:11] <failure> mzi: but that was a good thing, i will add this to svn right away :P | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:32:55] <failure> mzi: is there a good way to ensure that those groups are the only groups those users are in ? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:34:07] <mzi> failure: not from within vanilla puppet that I know of. | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:34:19] <failure> mzi: ok | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:35:07] <mzi> failure: but that goes for any type. there are more files that the one described in puppet, more packagaes and so on. | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:37:10] <eric0> ah #4409. | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:37:11] <gepetto> eric0: #4409 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/4409 "Puppet - Bug #4409: puppetmasterd does not find custom types for environment. It has a status of Accepted and is assigned to Daniel Pittman" | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:50:36] <brd> with erb templates is it possible to do multiple ifs? i.e. <% if has_variable?("one") and has_variable?("two") then %> | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:53:47] <mzi> try parenthize it if (foo and bar) then | ||
| [2011/12/22 15:54:01] <mzi> "if (foo and bar) then" | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:55:58] <failure> ooo im to smart somethimes, changed the ' to " for password doing the hased password as variables that has $ :P | ||
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| [2011/12/22 15:57:49] <vocis> /wrist | ||
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| [2011/12/22 16:02:32] <sri> greetings, I have a question regarding gems and puppet.. can you use things like net:ssh from within puppet to make manifests? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 16:05:43] <Volcane> sri: why would you want to do that? | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:06:00] <Volcane> sri: def sounds counter the basic approach puppet takes | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:06:44] <sri> well, I'm a storage admin and I want to be able to control changes on the storage server, like a netapp or some type of storage. | ||
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| [2011/12/22 16:07:07] <sri> I don't want to do constant ssh, but use a tunnel in order to chain commands. | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:07:13] <Volcane> ah, there's something along those lines for cisco devices | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:07:27] <Volcane> you could look how those are done and do something similar | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:08:04] <sri> emc for instance, is a big pain because in order to get anything useful, you have to do almost a database query, (eg look up some table, get some id, get that id and then look up in another table) | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:08:36] <eric0> thats going to involve some pretty heavy development -- right now puppet is not a good tool for non-unix devices IMO | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:08:41] <sri> teh attraction to puppet was the hope that I could access to the underlying ruby language and use some classes I've written using net:ssh | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:08:51] <sri> eric0: :( | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:09:15] <Volcane> yeah its not that str8 forward - but the cisco stuff works so its not impossible, but very far from user services parts as it were :) | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:09:15] <eric0> i have gobs of netscalers id love to run puppet on but its just not the right model | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:09:28] <sri> ok | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:09:29] <Volcane> servicable even | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:10:12] <sri> that's kind of a bummer. | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:10:41] <sri> puppet labs is about 10 miles from me, I suppose I could wander over there and ask them questions | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:11:00] <Djelibeybi> sri: tell jamesturnbull I said hi. | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:11:05] <Djelibeybi> sri: also barn | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:11:12] <sri> Djelibeybi: heh, okay. | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:11:42] <sri> probably wait for after the holidays.. I doubt anybody is there now! | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:11:59] <jamesturnbull> sri: Actually we're all here | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:12:29] <sri> jamesturnbull: oh.. cool. would you guys be available if I wandered over there and asked some questions? | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:12:40] <barn> what am I doing? | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:12:43] <jamesturnbull> sri: I don;t think what you want is that hard to do - we're just about to add F5 to the Cisco support and I am pretty sure Teyo Tyree is working on NetApp "stuff" | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:12:46] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull: surely Puppet would take care of things so that you can go on leave? Or is the marketing material lying to me? :) | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:13:03] <jamesturnbull> Djelibeybi: I am here so you all can go on leave - I make the puppet dance | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:13:12] <Volcane> barn: confirming what we all thought - you dont know what you're doing :P | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:13:17] <sri> jamesturnbull: cool.. I used netapp as an example, we have some of those, but we're using something called Panasas object storage. | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:13:20] <jamesturnbull> sri: probably not this afternoon but I can set something up if you like? | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:13:24] <Djelibeybi> jamesturnbull: fair enough | ||
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| [2011/12/22 16:15:13] <barn> Volcane: I never said I knew what I was doing... | ||
| [2011/12/22 16:15:16] <barn> not once! | ||
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| [2011/12/22 18:13:22] <sevard> How do I know what dependancies a client is missing when it's trying to install a package given to it from the puppet master? I can't locate more verbose logs. | ||
| [2011/12/22 18:13:42] <sevard> a puppetd client is getting a "Skipping because of failed dependencies" | ||
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| [2011/12/22 18:20:04] <daff> sevard: try running puppet agent manually, with flags --verbose and --no-daemonize to see more useful logs | ||
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| [2011/12/22 18:21:40] <sevard> daff: found it by running puppetd -ovvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv | ||
| [2011/12/22 18:21:41] <sevard> ;) | ||
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| [2011/12/22 19:19:01] <LoRez> how do you actually make use of reports? I want to set a tickler up for when a host hasn't updated in a while | ||
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| [2011/12/22 19:21:45] <rodjek> LoRez: i use nagios to alert me if a host hasn't updated in the last 4 hours and i send any changes/errors from the reports to campfire | ||
| [2011/12/22 19:22:28] <LoRez> do you poll the host with nagios? or do you poll the puppetmaster? | ||
| [2011/12/22 19:22:57] <rodjek> nagios check the mtime of /var/lib/puppet/state/state.yml on the hosts | ||
| [2011/12/22 19:24:59] <LoRez> cool | ||
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| [2011/12/22 19:51:16] <joe-mac1> it's also good IMO to enable tagmail for the err taf | ||
| [2011/12/22 19:51:17] <joe-mac1> tag | ||
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| [2011/12/22 21:18:17] <Guest79791> hi | ||
| [2011/12/22 21:18:39] <Guest79791> how can i set puppet cliok | ||
| [2011/12/22 21:19:21] <Guest79791> how can i set puppet client to send email to puupet server in case odf errors | ||
| [2011/12/22 21:19:23] <Guest79791> ? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 21:19:50] <Guest79791> hi | ||
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| [2011/12/22 21:27:41] <siddhartha> how to configure client to send error reports as email to server | ||
| [2011/12/22 21:27:42] <siddhartha> ? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 22:05:17] <agaffney> siddhartha: you can't...but the server can send emails when it gets reports with errors | ||
| [2011/12/22 22:05:24] <agaffney> using tagmail | ||
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| [2011/12/22 22:25:28] <siddhartha> <agaffney> for that i need to install and confiru mail server in puppet master ? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 23:47:50] <sad12> hi | ||
| [2011/12/22 23:47:54] <sad12> all: fng@puppetlabs.com webserver: webadmin@puppetlabs.com | ||
| [2011/12/22 23:48:12] <sad12> wthat dowe webserver means here incase of tagmail | ||
| [2011/12/22 23:48:13] <sad12> ? | ||
| [2011/12/22 23:48:26] <sad12> which address should it be ? | ||
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| [2011/12/22 23:55:15] <gucki> hey there | ||
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| [2011/12/22 23:56:00] <gucki> I have the problem that puppet always shows >>ensure changed 'stopped' to 'running'<< for a service which is already running (normal debian package). anybody knows what could be the cause? | ||
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