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| [2011/12/27 00:57:50] <Zugschlus> which puppet book is recommendable? Pulling Strings with Puppet or Pro Puppet? | ||
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| [2011/12/27 00:59:42] <ptman> the newer one | ||
| [2011/12/27 01:02:31] <willaerk> it's more in depth, and more up to date | ||
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| [2011/12/27 01:44:05] <joe-mac> pro puppet | ||
| [2011/12/27 01:44:11] <joe-mac> pulling strings with puppet is obselete at this point | ||
| [2011/12/27 01:44:32] <joe-mac> it was written so long ago, some of the information is probably harmful/bad practice at this point | ||
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| [2011/12/27 01:44:47] <job> i recently bought the puppet 2.7 cookbook | ||
| [2011/12/27 01:45:00] <job> it was okayish, but the author seems to tiptoe around the hard parts | ||
| [2011/12/27 01:45:17] <joe-mac> I have that but havn't read it much | ||
| [2011/12/27 01:45:40] <joe-mac> pro puppet was written by james turnbull and a couple other PL folks, while the puppet 2.7 cookbook was written by a third party consultancy | ||
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| [2011/12/27 02:12:54] <Raboo> hello | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:13:12] <Raboo> i'm trying to build a facter rpm | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:13:20] <Raboo> and install it on suse | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:13:21] <Sargun_Screen> why | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:13:28] <Sargun_Screen> ew, SuSe | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:13:32] <Raboo> error: Failed dependencies: which is needed by tc-facter-1.6.4-1.el6.noarch | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:13:39] <Raboo> yes, not my choice | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:13:56] <Raboo> so it fails on a blank dependency | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:14:05] <Raboo> why is that one might wonder | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:14:12] <Sargun_Screen> uhh | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:14:24] <Sargun_Screen> because that's an el6 RPM? | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:14:27] <Sargun_Screen> not a suse | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:14:41] <Sargun_Screen> and wtf is tc-facter | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:14:42] <Raboo> well i want to create a rpm for both distros | ||
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| [2011/12/27 02:14:56] <Raboo> well i renamed it | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:14:57] <Sargun_Screen> well, there is already an el6 rpm | ||
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| [2011/12/27 02:15:09] <Raboo> cause i have diffrent install dir | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:15:12] <Sargun_Screen> http://yum.puppetlabs.com/el/6/products/x86_64/ | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:15:14] <Raboo> /opt/ | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:15:22] <Sargun_Screen> ...Why are you doing that? | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:16:07] <Raboo> because i want to seperate the puppet install from the system depndencies | ||
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| [2011/12/27 02:17:02] <Sargun_Screen> How come...? | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:17:07] <Raboo> i don't want a yum upgrade or in suse zypper up to change versions of stuff | ||
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| [2011/12/27 02:17:25] <Sargun_Screen> Why would it change versions? | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:17:45] <Sargun_Screen> wait, change versions of what tuff? | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:17:53] <Raboo> dependencies | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:18:22] <Sargun_Screen> but, it wont because they wont resolve. the package manager is smart enough to understand what puppet depends on | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:18:31] <Sargun_Screen> and all puppet really needs is ruby 1.8.7 | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:18:51] <Raboo> well what if i have a server running older ruby | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:19:01] <Sargun_Screen> Why is it running an older ruby? | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:19:02] <Raboo> for some strange customer application? | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:19:13] <Raboo> it's not about the why | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:19:19] <Raboo> it's a enterprise best practice | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:19:53] <Sargun_Screen> So, the way we've done it is using RVM to install a separate ruby for puppet, and separate for customer applications | ||
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| [2011/12/27 02:20:02] <Sargun_Screen> our customer application requires something insane like 1.9.2 | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:20:15] <Raboo> i have a mixed enverionment, suse, redhat, centos, ubuntu, freebsd, hp-ux, solaris. Which of all has custom developed applications | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:20:32] <Sargun_Screen> Then your best bet may be to use rvm + gem | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:21:05] <Raboo> but everyone here is recommending the use of RPMS | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:21:10] <Raboo> and in #foreman | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:21:14] <Raboo> and #mcollective | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:21:28] <Raboo> i started with using source install | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:21:33] <Sargun_Screen> In a highly mixed environment, I've had my best bet using gem + rvm | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:21:39] <Raboo> but everone keept telling me to use rpm | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:21:45] <Sargun_Screen> once everything is standardized, rpms make sense | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:22:01] <Raboo> yes, but that is what i'm trying to do | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:22:25] <Raboo> except facter rpm requires nothing.. and rpm is unable to provide a nothing | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:22:41] <Sargun_Screen> Well, rather, why do you feel rpms are better? | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:23:16] <Raboo> then i can more easily do upgrades using puppet and such | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:23:23] <Raboo> easier to install | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:23:48] <Raboo> rpm -ivh own.repo.rpm, yum install tc-puppet | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:23:51] <dissipate> what about pacman? | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:23:56] <Raboo> pacman? | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:24:08] <dissipate> yep. the arch linux package manager. | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:24:10] <Sargun_Screen> wait, what? | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:24:44] <Raboo> who names something pacman, it's impossible to google "pacman" and get the result you want | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:24:59] <Sargun_Screen> See, I think gem + RVM is definitely the path to least resistance, but if you're building RPMs, then there is absolutely no reason to go about building them with your own name | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:25:02] <dissipate> Raboo, and 'puppet' is better? :P | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:25:24] <Raboo> dissipate no, definetly not | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:25:41] <Raboo> everything is messed up | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:25:44] <Sargun_Screen> because you just set your local repo with a higher priority than the external repos. | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:25:54] <Sargun_Screen> Raboo: yeah, because you renamed puppet to tc-puppet | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:25:56] <Sargun_Screen> Why..? | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:26:03] <Sargun_Screen> What kind of terrible person are you? | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:26:10] <Raboo> Sargun_Screen i have built an install that goes entierly under /opt/tc-puppet | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:26:23] <Raboo> with ruby, facter, mcollective | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:26:37] <Raboo> however now i'm stuck on damn suse | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:26:39] <Sargun_Screen> Raboo: But, there's no benefit of putting it under /opt/ is what I'm saying - if you leverage RVM | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:26:52] <Raboo> facter wont install because it depends on "" | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:27:23] <Zugschlus> joe-mac: thanks for the input | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:28:24] <ohadlevy> Sargun_Screen: why not use rvm for your custom apps, and all the rest use packages? | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:28:40] <Sargun_Screen> ohadlevy: because that's a slightly higher path of resistance | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:28:49] <ohadlevy> Sargun_Screen: from your devs? | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:29:01] <Raboo> Sargun_Screen how would i change ruby version using rvm via a puppet module? | ||
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| [2011/12/27 02:29:21] <Sargun_Screen> ohadlevy: well, no, because you have to modify your custom apps (which are already deployed) | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:29:22] <Raboo> lets say in 6 months best practice is to use ruby 1.9 | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:29:37] <Sargun_Screen> https://github.com/blt04/puppet-rvm | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:29:52] <Sargun_Screen> rvm_system_ruby { | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:29:52] <Sargun_Screen> 'ruby-1.9.2-p180': | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:29:52] <Sargun_Screen> ensure => 'present', | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:29:53] <Sargun_Screen> default_use => true;} | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:29:55] <Sargun_Screen> DONE! | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:30:02] <Raboo> ok | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:30:13] * ohadlevy dont like rvm/bundler on production machines | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:31:03] <Raboo> i don't like server service under /usr in production machines. | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:31:04] <rmenn> we actually use it quite extensively, have one version for our app and another one for puppet | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:32:10] <Sargun_Screen> ohadlevy: Me neither, but after deploying RPMs on nearly 350 machines with a bunch of ruby apps and running into a roadblock, we decided the rvm + gem route is best | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:32:29] <Sargun_Screen> Unfortunately, right now, we're not fully on RVM, we're using RVM to build a custom ruby that we turn into an rpm | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:33:10] <ohadlevy> Sargun_Screen: which roadblocks? | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:33:41] <Sargun_Screen> ohadlevy: Not entirely sure, but I can ask the ruby architect guy at work. | ||
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| [2011/12/27 02:36:25] <Sargun_Screen> IIRC, we had some RoR apps which needed weird versions of ruby configured differently than the standard vendor ruby | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:36:31] <Raboo> Sargun_Screen how do you install puppet? | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:37:21] <Raboo> well you have an ruby archtect guy | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:37:30] <Raboo> we are a team of 3 ppl in total | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:37:41] <Raboo> handling all unix related stuff | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:38:06] <Raboo> having customers that outsource there current environments as is. | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:38:27] <Raboo> hp-ux, solaris, suse, redhat, centos, ubuntu | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:38:45] <Raboo> from end of live versions to current up to date versions | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:39:07] <Sargun_Screen> 1) Install RVM (multi-user) | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:39:15] <Sargun_Screen> 2) gem install puppet | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:39:56] <Sargun_Screen> actually 1.5) rvm install 1.8.7 | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:40:18] <Sargun_Screen> 2) gem install --no-ri --no-rdoc puppet | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:40:21] <Sargun_Screen> but, you get the idea | ||
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| [2011/12/27 02:41:17] <Raboo> which puppet version comes thru gem? is it up to date? | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:41:59] <Sargun_Screen> IIRc, we're on 2.7.7 right now | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:42:10] <Sargun_Screen> Actually, we replace the gemrc to use our own local gem mirror | ||
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| [2011/12/27 02:43:12] <Sargun_Screen> So, whatever we push to our gem mirror | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:45:27] <Raboo> i just realized using gem global mirror won't work | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:45:39] <Raboo> for instance today it's puppet 2.7.9 | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:45:53] <Sargun_Screen> yep | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:46:07] <Raboo> tomorrow it might be 2.7.10 | ||
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| [2011/12/27 02:46:20] <Raboo> so using just gem will cause version missmatch | ||
| [2011/12/27 02:46:28] <Sargun_Screen> Well, you mirror it to your local repo | ||
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| [2011/12/27 02:59:26] <Volcane> dont use gems, they're not packages | ||
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| [2011/12/27 03:03:00] <joe-mac> yea what volcane said | ||
| [2011/12/27 03:03:29] <joe-mac> terrible, terrible way to install programs but not bad for libs if you're doing dev... I think it sucks as a whole but sucks less as long as you avoid using it for programs | ||
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| [2011/12/27 04:03:47] <joe-mac> nice, hadn't noticed this newer 'osfamily' fact | ||
| [2011/12/27 04:03:57] <joe-mac> had been doing a lot of conditionals for that | ||
| [2011/12/27 04:04:05] * joe-mac adds to list of shit to make better | ||
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| [2011/12/27 05:08:50] <Kazuhiro> Is it normal for the puppet-dashboard spool directory to grow significantly. I cant find any rake tasks to clean this out either. | ||
| [2011/12/27 05:09:02] <Kazuhiro> I have 33K files in there @ about 5.3GB | ||
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| [2011/12/27 05:49:59] <zoobab> hi | ||
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| [2011/12/27 06:08:57] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Using_Mongrel_On_Debian (#4) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Using_Mongrel_On_Debian?version=4 (by romuald FREBAULT) | ||
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| [2011/12/27 07:44:30] <ssm> Kazuhiro: start some dashboard worker threads, they take items from the spool, and process them | ||
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| [2011/12/27 08:00:18] <Kazuhiro> ssm, I have 4 workers already running. Started another one interactively to see whats going on. | ||
| [2011/12/27 08:00:30] <dan__t> 'morning. | ||
| [2011/12/27 08:00:43] <Kazuhiro> ssm: thanks for the tip though. Now I know what to look at. | ||
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| [2011/12/27 08:13:16] <Kazuhiro> ssm: I assume that after jobs are processed the files should be removed from puppet-dashboard/spool | ||
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| [2011/12/27 08:32:17] <pll> Is there a way to prevent puppet from recursively copying the .svn/ dirs when it's managing a directory structure ? | ||
| [2011/12/27 08:35:00] <f3ew> jamesturnbull: what's the easiest way to get the Puppet NagIOS configuration generator hooks to use a custom database instead of exported resources? | ||
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| [2011/12/27 08:35:55] <agaffney> pll: use git ;) | ||
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| [2011/12/27 08:36:18] <agaffney> something like ignore => '.svn' on the File resource may help | ||
| [2011/12/27 08:36:20] <pll> agaffney: Yeah, sadly, that's not going to fly :) | ||
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| [2011/12/27 08:36:44] <pll> Hmm, okay, I'll have to go scour the docs to figure out how that works. | ||
| [2011/12/27 08:36:45] <pll> thanks | ||
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| [2011/12/27 08:38:25] <Kazuhiro> agaffney: put this in your site.pp "File { ignore => ['.svn', '.git', 'CVS' ] }" | ||
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| [2011/12/27 08:39:03] <Kazuhiro> Then any file resources will inherit those settings. | ||
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| [2011/12/27 08:39:19] <pll> Kazuhiro: sweet! Thanks! | ||
| [2011/12/27 08:43:43] <ssm> Kazuhiro: yes, they should be removed when processed. | ||
| [2011/12/27 08:44:13] <pll> For some reason when I run puppet in my production env, it seems to hang before processing. | ||
| [2011/12/27 08:44:24] <pll> It doestn't do this in the test env. | ||
| [2011/12/27 08:44:37] <pll> and -vt isn't revealing anything exciting. | ||
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| [2011/12/27 08:48:14] <f3ew> pll: IIRC, ignore => ".svn" | ||
| [2011/12/27 08:48:57] <f3ew> ffs | ||
| [2011/12/27 08:49:05] <f3ew> pll: Is it waiting for facter? | ||
| [2011/12/27 08:49:55] <pll> I'm not sure. | ||
| [2011/12/27 08:50:06] <pll> I've got logging turned up, and am using -vt on both sides. | ||
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| [2011/12/27 08:50:14] <pll> It just sits there, then moves forward. | ||
| [2011/12/27 08:50:37] <pll> It might be a networking issue, or perhaps DNS. | ||
| [2011/12/27 08:51:17] <pll> But dns resolves fine in both directions on both client and server. | ||
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| [2011/12/27 08:52:45] <Kazuhiro> ssm: Yup, they should. The jobs were not processing those files. Although the dashboard was/is updating fine. I removed the 33K files and new jobs create files there and the jobs process those new files just fine. | ||
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| [2011/12/27 08:54:52] <Diranged> anyone got any simple code for making sure a line exists in a file, BEFORE another line? | ||
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| [2011/12/27 08:58:14] <Kazuhiro> Diranged: are you editing files like how cfengine does? I would suggest you check out augeas or use templates. | ||
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| [2011/12/27 09:41:26] <arBmind> does anyone now a way to run an augeas "set $dbpass $password" change? | ||
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| [2011/12/27 09:41:52] <arBmind> $dbpass is the real path (the dollar sign has to be escaped) | ||
| [2011/12/27 09:43:15] <arBmind> I tried a $dollar variable, but the set command is still invalid | ||
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| [2011/12/27 10:55:33] <Dominic> arBmind: sorry, I don't understand your question. Run it in Puppet, or in augtool? | ||
| [2011/12/27 10:55:39] <hacim> does anyone know how to get at DavidS' git repos? they are available via gitweb, but the git URIs don't work | ||
| [2011/12/27 10:55:54] <Dominic> arBmind: the dollar sign shouldn't be escaped if it's a puppet variable | ||
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| [2011/12/27 11:35:09] <Hunner> No ty :) | ||
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| [2011/12/27 11:37:38] <Ashutto> sorry, i missed the "/" :) | ||
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| [2011/12/27 11:51:51] <countskm> clear | ||
| [2011/12/27 11:53:36] <Hunner> hacim: Do you have more details on "don't work"? | ||
| [2011/12/27 11:54:18] <Hunner> hacim: usually it helps to try git:// https:// and http:// (especially on older rhel boxen) | ||
| [2011/12/27 11:55:37] <hacim> Hunner: git.black.co.at[0: 78.46.201.105]: errno=Connection refused | ||
| [2011/12/27 11:56:08] <hacim> Hunner: tried http/https, no dice | ||
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| [2011/12/27 12:38:38] <Hunner> hacim: I get connection refused for git://git.black.co.at/module-dnsmasq which means that his git server is probably not running, and I get a 403 forbidden for http://git.black.co.at/git/module-dnsmasq | ||
| [2011/12/27 12:38:43] <Hunner> So, it's not just you | ||
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| [2011/12/27 13:19:46] <polipie> can you put a define in a file like site.pp in the module directory? like this: https://github.com/uggedal/puppet-module-nginx/blob/master/manifests/site.pp - I tried doing something similar, but i'm getting an error when I try to reference the define: "ArgumentError: Invalid resource type nginx::site". anyone got an idea that could push me in the right direction? thanks! | ||
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| [2011/12/27 13:25:12] <Dominic> polipie: pastebin the site.pp and the manifest that's causing the error along with a pointer as to which line it's saying is wrong | ||
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| [2011/12/27 13:30:50] <Stuttergart_> Hi! | ||
| [2011/12/27 13:32:17] <polipie> Dominic: http://pastie.org/private/kcq6t2axfxor1jm2i7dgg | ||
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| [2011/12/27 13:32:47] <polipie> if i put the define in the same file as the manifest, then it works fine | ||
| [2011/12/27 13:33:03] <polipie> i must be overlooking something :) | ||
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| [2011/12/27 13:33:57] <polipie> Error 400 on SERVER: Could not find class nginx::xdconfig which points to line 37 in the pastie | ||
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| [2011/12/27 13:36:24] <Volcane> polipie: see the module documentation - you need to put nginx::foo in the moduledir in nginx/manifests/foo.pp | ||
| [2011/12/27 13:37:05] <polipie> that would make perfect sense :D | ||
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| [2011/12/27 13:37:47] <polipie> works now, omg :) | ||
| [2011/12/27 13:37:50] <polipie> thanks! | ||
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| [2011/12/27 13:50:39] <Stuttergart_> does anyone have a pointer to docs on the correct way to add nodes to a PE instance without using the provisioning layer? | ||
| [2011/12/27 13:51:17] <Stuttergart_> Did the "puppetd --test --waitforcert" 60 dance but the node doesn't show up in the console even after signing and re-test | ||
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| [2011/12/27 13:56:43] <arBmind> Dominic, thanks for your answer - it's run through puppet - augeas itself has no problem with dollar signs in pathes | ||
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| [2011/12/27 13:57:17] <arBmind> I used the phpvars lens, which generates key for php variables with $ signs | ||
| [2011/12/27 13:57:38] <Dominic> arBmind: I take it you put one level of escaping in for augtool? | ||
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| [2011/12/27 13:58:04] <arBmind> no augtool does not require any escaping | ||
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| [2011/12/27 13:59:30] <Dominic> ah ok, what's happening on the value/password side, is that a puppet variable or a string containing dollars? | ||
| [2011/12/27 14:00:32] <arBmind> code looked like: $dollar = '$'; .... changes: [ "set ${dollar}dbpass $password" ] | ||
| [2011/12/27 14:00:52] <Dominic> so $password is set outside the resource? | ||
| [2011/12/27 14:01:01] <arBmind> error of puppet states "set with params ["\$dbpass", "xyz"] does not work | ||
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| [2011/12/27 14:02:14] <arBmind> yes, it obscure... puppet documentation always states do not use double quotes with $ signs. | ||
| [2011/12/27 14:02:32] <arBmind> apart from that I could not find any hints | ||
| [2011/12/27 14:02:53] <Stuttergart_> ah, nevermind, I didn't realize that the installer was for all components including the agent | ||
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| [2011/12/27 14:07:40] <wizonesolutions> Is anyone aware of any decent VirtualBox-compatible machines that have Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and puppetmaster pre-installed? | ||
| [2011/12/27 14:08:12] <arBmind> wizonesolutions, you may want to look into vagrantboxes.es | ||
| [2011/12/27 14:08:20] <arBmind> vagrantbox.es | ||
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| [2011/12/27 14:09:18] <wizonesolutions> arBmind: Ooh, nice. I have been wanting to play with Vagrant, so this is a nice excuse. Thanks. | ||
| [2011/12/27 14:09:56] <wizonesolutions> hmm, not sure if they have an Ubuntu one with Puppet but maybe I can use something else since the VM would basically only be for Puppet | ||
| [2011/12/27 14:10:26] <wizonesolutions> or I could just grab a straight Ubuntu one and install it myself | ||
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| [2011/12/27 14:12:59] <arBmind> both ways should be easy enough | ||
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| [2011/12/27 14:13:58] <Dominic> arBmind: this works for me on 2.7.x. Note the double-escaped dollar, so Augeas doesn't interpret it as a var and extra quotes so the end value is quoted. http://fpaste.org/FvE8/ | ||
| [2011/12/27 14:14:01] <wizonesolutions> arBmind: Yeah, I'll probably get the clean box just to get some installation experience. This is probably a stopgap solution to get me started and for my own use, but I'll want to move it to a VPS or higher eventually. | ||
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| [2011/12/27 14:15:34] <arBmind> Dominic, thanks for triing that out | ||
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| [2011/12/27 14:28:34] <arBmind> Dominic, it works here too, I don't know what was the problem some hours before | ||
| [2011/12/27 14:28:59] <arBmind> maybe i tried to many variations and something else was wrong when i tried the extra backslash | ||
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| [2011/12/27 14:29:55] <Dominic> arBmind: ah ok, glad that was it | ||
| [2011/12/27 14:30:10] <Dominic> the combination of escaping can be a nightmare | ||
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| [2011/12/27 14:49:44] <jeremyb> any ideas what's up with this? http://dpaste.com/678436/ (re jamesturnbull's scaffold tool; assuming it doesn't have it's own channel) | ||
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| [2011/12/27 14:56:34] <jamesturnbull> jeremyb: I'd recommend not using that tool anymore and instead the puppet-module tool | ||
| [2011/12/27 14:56:41] <jamesturnbull> jeremyb: try gem install puppet-module | ||
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| [2011/12/27 14:56:53] <jeremyb> jamesturnbull: trying... | ||
| [2011/12/27 14:57:03] <jamesturnbull> jeremyb: and that functionality itself has been merged into Puppet core too - it'll be in the next major release | ||
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| [2011/12/27 15:06:38] <jeremyb> "Technical disclaimer for techies" is kinda funny but I like that it's there | ||
| [2011/12/27 15:07:51] <jeremyb> jamesturnbull: looks like it's just for modules? scaffold seemed to do several different levels of hierarchy | ||
| [2011/12/27 15:08:07] <jeremyb> (i.e. --template=) | ||
| [2011/12/27 15:10:46] <jamesturnbull> jeremyb: yeah but it's probably not worth doing it that way anymore | ||
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| [2011/12/27 15:24:06] <jeremyb> jamesturnbull: ok, thanks. btw is there a way to buy pro puppet that gives you a bigger cut? i.e. amazon vs. apress vs. some other way | ||
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| [2011/12/27 15:24:29] <jamesturnbull> jeremyb: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1430230576/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=puppet0e-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1430230576 | ||
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| [2011/12/27 15:24:34] <jamesturnbull> jeremyb: and thanks! :) | ||
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| [2011/12/27 15:30:40] <countskm> jamesturnbull: pro puppet is ze best - gracias | ||
| [2011/12/27 15:31:14] <jamesturnbull> countskm: thanks! | ||
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| [2011/12/27 15:32:09] <countskm> fortunately and unfortunately i read every other book before yours ;-) its a good thing in the end.. forced discipline :-) | ||
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| [2011/12/27 15:32:48] <countskm> although i think u were implicated in 'pulling strings'? | ||
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| [2011/12/27 15:34:25] <countskm> just a jest ;-) | ||
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| [2011/12/27 15:37:26] <countskm> on another note, anyone working w/ aix and virtual machines? | ||
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| [2011/12/27 15:41:18] <Dahme2011_> هاي | ||
| [2011/12/27 15:41:46] <countskm> m/.../ | ||
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| [2011/12/27 16:00:18] <JC> Hello, I am having problems installing puppet-dashboard. I installed all the pre reqs. I created my DB but when I run rake db:migrate I get a uninitialized constant Gem::SyckDefaultKey what Gem is this? | ||
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| [2011/12/27 16:16:09] <campee> is there a web forum for puppet where people can get help? | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:16:53] <agaffney> there's the mailing list and this IRC channel | ||
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| [2011/12/27 16:17:44] <campee> ok, i'll prepare a pastebin then and share my issue in here :) | ||
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| [2011/12/27 16:26:50] <campee> here is my issue if anyone feels like helping out: http://pastebin.com/5bf9MHke | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:27:13] <campee> basically, i have a module that says that a class is missing. but i clearly have that class configured and i believe my configuration is valid | ||
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| [2011/12/27 16:27:29] <campee> in fact, i have other modules with identical configurations that are working correctly | ||
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| [2011/12/27 16:32:37] <anrxc> campee: you have closed postfix::config too soon | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:32:44] <anrxc> campee: line 58 | ||
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| [2011/12/27 16:34:47] <thoraxe> is it possible to have a node definition that corresponds to multiple hostnames? | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:35:01] <Kazuhiro2> yes, you can regex match in the node name. | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:35:08] <rodjek> thoraxe: you can supply a regex instead of a node name | ||
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| [2011/12/27 16:35:52] <campee> anrxc: i can't seem to figure out what should it look like. what would should it be? | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:35:58] <thoraxe> hm | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:36:02] <thoraxe> i was hoping for an array | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:36:05] <thoraxe> but i guess a regex would work | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:36:34] <kjetilho> thoraxe: you can write a comma separated liste | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:36:38] <kjetilho> -e | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:37:17] <kjetilho> but it has to be the whole hostname or fully qualified domain name | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:37:28] <thoraxe> kjetilho: node 'foo.bar','apple.banana' ? | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:37:36] <thoraxe> or would it be 'something,something' ? | ||
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| [2011/12/27 16:41:27] <campee> anrxc: ? | ||
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| [2011/12/27 16:51:41] <Hunner> thoraxe: node 'foo.company.com', 'bar.company.com', 'baz.company.com' { | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:52:22] <Hunner> or node /.*\.company.com/ { should work too | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:53:38] <Hunner> I don't know this for sure, but the master should check in order for 'foo.company.com', 'foo.company', 'foo', then check for matching regex nodes if nothing was found | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:53:56] <Hunner> So you can have catch-all regexes, and specific node defs to override it | ||
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| [2011/12/27 16:56:01] <Anamika> Anybody home ? | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:56:41] <Anamika> Yo! People | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:56:50] <bob2> if you have a question, ask | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:56:57] <bob2> that's how all technical irc channels work | ||
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| [2011/12/27 16:57:09] <Anamika> No | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:57:10] <Anamika> ok | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:57:29] @ Quit: ascarter: Ping timeout: 240 seconds | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:57:29] <Anamika> well, i am not able to connect to dalnet.net | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:57:39] <Anamika> :-D | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:57:46] <Anamika> Can you guys help me | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:57:54] <bob2> what? | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:57:55] <Anamika> :-[ | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:57:55] <campee> and you joined #puppet to ask for help? | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:58:05] <bob2> why are you asking for irc connection help in #puppet? | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:58:17] <campee> a channel devoted to a configuration management software tool | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:58:28] <Anamika> Actually, i am sorry but the only channel i was able to was yours. | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:58:30] @ Quit: alanevans: Ping timeout: 248 seconds | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:58:54] <campee> Anamika: /join #irc | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:58:54] @ Quit: scsinutz: Quit: Leaving. | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:58:57] <campee> Anamika: ask for help there | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:59:18] <Anamika> I am from india, 20 yrs F. And new to irc | ||
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| [2011/12/27 16:59:33] <Anamika> So it kind confusing . | ||
| [2011/12/27 16:59:34] <bob2> ok but still nothing to do with us | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:00:54] <Anamika> that's it ??? | ||
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| [2011/12/27 17:01:52] <Anamika> Rude Ppl!!:-/ | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:02:26] <bob2> what? | ||
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| [2011/12/27 17:04:12] <HarrisonZhu> Anamika:read this first http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/IRC_Channel | ||
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| [2011/12/27 17:05:15] <campee> pretty sure Anamika is trolling | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:05:50] <Anamika> What that's suppose to mean | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:06:38] <Anamika> BTW, what the symbol of angry ?? | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:06:39] <Anamika> b,coz i feel it here so much | ||
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| [2011/12/27 17:15:58] <anrxc> campee: for real? | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:16:06] <anrxc> campee: loewr } to end of the manifest | ||
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| [2011/12/27 17:25:23] <campee> anrxc: thanks, i figured it out. i'm not accustomed to this type of syntax | ||
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| [2011/12/27 17:34:03] <anrxc> you'll be soon :) | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:34:13] <anrxc> take a good editor and this won't happen again | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:34:22] <anrxc> puppet on debian comes with puppet-mode for emacs | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:35:12] <anrxc> campee: do you keep your modules in git or svn? on the puppetlabs wiki you can copy a pre-commit hook that validates syntax of manifests and templates | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:35:20] <anrxc> campee: if you don't have a good editor that helps | ||
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| [2011/12/27 17:38:53] <rtyler> I suppose there isn't a good resource type for adding nameserver entries to /etc/resolv.conf :/ | ||
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| [2011/12/27 17:40:55] <anrxc> you read the types document right? they suggest content of file typ | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:40:56] <anrxc> e | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:41:32] <anrxc> e42labs or how it's called has a common module with some cfengine-like functions that can be used like append_of_noline - that would be good for resolv | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:41:58] <anrxc> append_if* | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:42:45] <rtyler> it doesn't look like the file resource type supports "onlyif" like exec | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:43:04] <rtyler> so maybe I'll just haxx up an exec block that will only append to the file if the nameserver isn't there already | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:43:52] <anrxc> i find it useful to have a common module that applies to all servers - like for customer facter if server is s/w raid or h/w raid | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:44:11] <anrxc> and then when you have one adding append_if_noline is simple | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:44:47] <rtyler> yeah, I use a "base" module that all hosts include | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:45:05] <rtyler> https://github.com/jenkinsci/infra-puppet/blob/master/modules/base/manifests/init.pp | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:46:29] <anrxc> https://github.com/example42/puppet-modules/tree/3a80fc564/common | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:46:51] <rtyler> I like this game | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:46:53] <rtyler> :P | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:47:18] <rtyler> do you use puppet with a puppetmasterd or standalone if I may ask | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:47:43] <anrxc> master with nginx+mongrel | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:47:56] <anrxc> not happy though, up to 10 mongrel backends now on 50 servers, and still lots of failed runs | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:48:01] <rtyler> O_O | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:48:29] <rodjek> master w/ nginx & unicorn | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:48:31] <rodjek> works great | ||
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| [2011/12/27 17:49:15] <anrxc> i aksed a statistics profesor i know to calculate how often in a period of an hour, with my run intervals, more than 4 servers request manifests | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:49:21] <anrxc> i'll see from there :) | ||
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| [2011/12/27 17:51:32] <anrxc> i use masters per customer for now, potentially we could use it for all customers, and with this behaviour it's not possible | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:52:21] <anrxc> i like the server-client model more than alternative transport methods | ||
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| [2011/12/27 17:52:51] <rtyler> https://github.com/jenkinsci/infra-puppet/blob/master/modules/autoupdate/manifests/init.pp | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:52:59] <rtyler> this may or may not be a "stupid-ass idea" | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:53:34] <anrxc> yeah in managed hosting intervals are much more frequent, fot a lot of changes you can't let the customer wait | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:53:39] <anrxc> one of my thorns | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:53:45] <rtyler> ah, fair point | ||
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| [2011/12/27 17:54:32] <rodjek> rtyler: i'd suggest keeping something as important as your puppet manifests in root's home dir is a stupid-ass idea | ||
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| [2011/12/27 17:55:04] <anrxc> rodjek: unicorn sounds good, i'll look into it, thanks | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:55:19] <rtyler> rodjek: why? | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:56:21] <rodjek> rtyler: home dirs are are a user's personal files, not system configurations | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:56:52] <rtyler> considering the root crontab runs the update, does it matter whether it's /root or /var/puppet? | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:57:10] <rodjek> /etc/puppet is a much more suitable (and standard) place | ||
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| [2011/12/27 17:57:32] <rtyler> despite running masterless? | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:58:18] <rodjek> rtyler: in theory, you could put them in /usr/lib/foo/bar/baz/gronk if you want without an issue, but it's not a good idea | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:58:41] <rtyler> for any other reason than convention though? | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:58:46] <rodjek> the method of running puppet doesn't effect where you should store your manifests | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:59:07] <rodjek> the next sysadmin that logs into that box won't stab you in the eye? | ||
| [2011/12/27 17:59:26] <rtyler> so no? :P | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:00:07] <rodjek> conventions are there for your sanity, feel free to go against them if you wish | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:00:22] <nevyn> rtyler: it should be in some sort of version control | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:00:37] <rtyler> it is in version control, it all is fed from github | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:02:47] <Kazuhiro2> Doing things different for the sake of different is a dumb idea. | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:03:10] <nevyn> usually | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:03:12] <nevyn> depends | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:03:24] <nevyn> on cost of modifying things to be the "same" | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:03:40] <nevyn> vs the cost of managing different | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:03:47] <nevyn> and maintaing different | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:04:15] <rtyler> there's literally zero difference between directories where you dump your manifests as far as I can tell, when using masterless | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:04:35] <rtyler> (as far as I can tell) | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:04:47] <rtyler> while yes, if I were building this from scratch now, I'd put things in /etc/puppet | ||
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| [2011/12/27 18:05:04] <rtyler> but the convention isn't enough for me to move all theses hosts over | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:05:08] <rodjek> except usually when you delete something from /root it doesn't break shit | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:05:20] <Kazuhiro2> +1 to that. | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:05:24] <rtyler> don't do that! :P | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:05:40] <rodjek> i do it regularly | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:05:48] <Kazuhiro2> I've seen people clear out root cause they filled the file system dumping some sql in there and then went opps.. later. | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:05:53] <rodjek> there shouldn't be anything in the home dirs on my production hosts | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:06:25] <nevyn> rtyler: relying on stuff being in homedirs for functionality is a broken pattern | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:06:57] <Kazuhiro2> I treat root as a scratch space to work im doing right now. Any thing that is there when I log in I assume to be someone else's left over digital trash. | ||
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| [2011/12/27 18:07:15] <rtyler> I must have always been doing things wrong, I *never* touch /root | ||
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| [2011/12/27 18:07:36] <rtyler> I will keep said convention in mind for future deployments | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:08:34] <nevyn> Kazuhiro2++ | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:09:37] <nevyn> even roots crontab should be empty idealy | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:09:45] <nevyn> /etc/cron.daily etc should be used instead | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:10:01] <Kazuhiro2> or drop in per job /etc/cron.d files with your own time spec | ||
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| [2011/12/27 18:15:11] <rtyler> why would I do that instead of relying on the cron resource type? | ||
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| [2011/12/27 18:16:01] <syntaxx> Hi, I would like to know which syntax should i use to surpass the dpkg questions like if TOS and others? | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:16:11] <rodjek> again, mostly so all my system configuration is in one (standards compliant) place - /etc | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:17:29] <rodjek> syntaxx: i call debconf-set-selections using an exec resource before the package | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:17:44] <rodjek> ie for the sun java license | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:17:57] <rodjek> exec { "echo \"debconf shared/accepted-sun-dlj-v1-1 boolean true\" | debconf-set-selections": | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:18:36] <syntaxx> rodjek, thanks.. is the puppet syntax first in first out? | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:19:46] <rodjek> syntaxx: you'll have to add a require relationship to your package resources | ||
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| [2011/12/27 18:21:28] <syntaxx> ic.. so this is what i have now exec { "echo \"debconf shared/accepted-sun-dlj-v1-1 boolean true\" | debconf-set-selections": } | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:21:28] <syntaxx> package { 'sun-java6-bin': ensure => installed } | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:22:44] <syntaxx> is that correct? | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:22:53] <rodjek> not quite | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:23:04] <rodjek> puppet resources aren't applied in the order in which they appear in the file | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:23:04] <whack> syntaxx: I have preseed stuff like that in a module: https://github.com/loggly/puppet-modules/tree/master/debian | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:23:17] <whack> here's a java example that uses it: https://github.com/loggly/puppet-modules/tree/master/java | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:23:23] <rodjek> you'll need to setup relationships between them | ||
| [2011/12/27 18:23:25] <syntaxx> thanks | ||
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| [2011/12/27 20:19:04] <danblack> i've made a puppet type and provider for iptables chains. The create and destroy are working however puppet doesn't seem to be called the policy= method on the provider when the policy property changes. Any suggestions where I should be looking? | ||
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| [2011/12/27 20:23:12] <rodjek> danblack: pastebin your type and provider | ||
| [2011/12/27 20:23:51] <rodjek> also, https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-firewall | ||
| [2011/12/27 20:27:22] <danblack> rodjek: yep looking at that as a basis. provider: http://pastie.org/3082842 type: http://pastie.org/3082844 | ||
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| [2011/12/27 20:28:17] <danblack> testing with resource; firewallchain { 'FORWARD': policy => 'drop', } | ||
| [2011/12/27 20:29:42] <rodjek> your policy method is returning the policy that you've set in your resource instance | ||
| [2011/12/27 20:30:01] <rodjek> the resource hash contains the desired values, not the current ones | ||
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| [2011/12/27 20:32:20] <danblack> ah. ok. so I should be using @property_hash? | ||
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| [2011/12/27 20:32:57] <rodjek> danblack: in that provider, yes | ||
| [2011/12/27 20:34:40] <rodjek> just use properties[:policy] instead of resource[:policy] | ||
| [2011/12/27 20:35:16] <danblack> in the provider get methods I'm assuming def policy... | ||
| [2011/12/27 20:35:23] <rodjek> yep | ||
| [2011/12/27 20:35:43] <danblack> great. got a step closer. thanks. still some uppercase/lowercase errors. | ||
| [2011/12/27 20:35:56] <danblack> I'll submit it once working. | ||
| [2011/12/27 20:36:00] <danblack> thankyou. | ||
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| [2011/12/27 20:40:07] <rodjek> danblack: no worries | ||
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