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| [2012/01/10 00:17:07] <Dewin> Is there a list of built-in puppet classes somewhere? I read about 'settings', and I'm particularly trying to see if 'config' is one. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 00:19:03] <Dewin> more or less, I'm trying to track down the cause of "warning: Scope(Class[Mysql]): Could not look up qualified variable 'config::server_id'; class config has not been evaluated at [...]/puppet/modules/mysql/manifests/init.pp:15", when config has definitely been evaluated and in fact exists in a previous stage. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 00:40:48] <karthick87> I am getting this error "Could not find class mymodule at line 1 on node karthick-it.chn.jd.com" on applying the module can anyone help me pls? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 00:44:37] <Harzilein> hmm | ||
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| [2012/01/10 00:45:15] <Harzilein> might this be similar to what i keep asking about configuring google apps from a puppet module?: http://puppetlabs.com/blog/puppet-network-device-management/ | ||
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| [2012/01/10 02:09:37] <rtyler> which ssh module is the best one? :D | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:09:42] <rtyler> http://forge.puppetlabs.com/tags/ssh | ||
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| [2012/01/10 02:12:25] <rtyler> this looks the best: https://github.com/bobsh/puppet-sshd | ||
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| [2012/01/10 02:18:01] <sdog> rtyler: you're not @agentzero right ? | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:19:21] <rtyler> one letter off :) | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:19:42] <rtyler> what's up | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:20:26] <sdog> one of my coworkers is hacking on a Jenkins - RPM selfservice packaging service :) | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:20:35] <rtyler> ruh roh | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:21:10] <rtyler> using puppet-jenkins? | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:21:32] <sdog> rtyler: not your module .. we wrote one ages ago .. | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:21:37] <rtyler> oh bummer | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:22:11] <sdog> rtyler: https://github.com/KrisBuytaert/puppet-jenkins | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:22:33] <sdog> rtyler: (Actually that's even a Vagrant box bootstrapping a full Jenkins instance..) | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:22:43] <sdog> it works .. but it could use some more love .. | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:23:04] <sdog> should probably spend some time merging the good stuff from your module :) | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:23:14] <rtyler> indeed | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:23:18] <rtyler> you're not kris are you? | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:23:26] <sdog> rtyler: I am | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:23:29] <rtyler> aha | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:23:37] <rtyler> I'm pretty sure we've met in person before | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:23:46] <rtyler> at the very least we will at FOSDEM | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:23:56] <sdog> rtyler: devopdays mountainview iirc saturday afternoon sessions | ||
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| [2012/01/10 02:24:07] <rtyler> aha, that was it | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:24:15] <sdog> rtyler: any big travel plans ? | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:24:57] <rtyler> scale10x and fosdem | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:25:12] <rtyler> also, I plan to visit drunk a number of times in between | ||
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| [2012/01/10 02:36:03] <sdog> rtyler: I meant around Fosdem ... just a quick weekend in and out .. or do some more travel ? | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:37:48] <rtyler> I fly in on the the 2nd and fly out the night of the 7th | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:37:58] <rtyler> can't take much more time than that, other people need me :) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 02:38:12] <rtyler> belgium is too damned cold in the february to travel much | ||
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| [2012/01/10 02:40:53] <rtyler> gahhhh circular dependency hell! | ||
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| [2012/01/10 02:42:38] <sdog> rtyler: not much time around it .. wel.. you can always join us at the #fixmonitoring hackfest :) | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:43:56] <rtyler> i've been thinking about it, i'm not sure if I'll be able to not get pissed off at the status quo :P | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:44:31] <rtyler> that said, puppet makes me hate nagios far less | ||
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| [2012/01/10 02:46:22] <rtyler> Wom21 | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:46:23] <rtyler> derp | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:46:48] <limed> there goes a password? | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:47:12] * jamesturnbull giggles | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:47:25] <rtyler> nah | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:47:33] <rtyler> misaligned keyboard+autocomplete | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:47:34] <jamesturnbull> rtyler: I really hope not young man - appalling password | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:47:36] <jamesturnbull> :P | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:47:39] <rtyler> trying to type /window 21 | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:48:39] <rtyler> jamesturnbull: sorry to hear you won't be joining us in fosdem :/ | ||
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| [2012/01/10 02:54:22] <ohadlevy> speaking of fosdem, is the schedule out already? | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:54:34] <rtyler> for the main tracks yes, not for the devroom | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:55:19] <ohadlevy> hmm.. ada devroom | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:55:40] * rtyler hides his membership to the #ada channel | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:56:05] <ohadlevy> oh nice, the virtual and cloud devrooms is large (500+ people) | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:56:16] * ohadlevy is looking forward to the ovirt talks | ||
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| [2012/01/10 02:58:43] <sdog> ohadlevy: I know a guy called James that could shine some light on the schedule of a certain devroom .... | ||
| [2012/01/10 02:59:29] <ohadlevy> sdog: last I heard they didnt let him in | ||
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| [2012/01/10 03:00:27] <sdog> ohadlevy: Oh I`m pretty sure we'd (Belgium) let him in .. it's just getting him back out which is the problem ...:( | ||
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| [2012/01/10 03:02:29] <rtyler> I hear EU countries empty your pockets on your way out | ||
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| [2012/01/10 03:21:32] <jamesturnbull> rtyler: yeah me too - damn USCIS | ||
| [2012/01/10 03:22:04] <jamesturnbull> ohadlevy: it'll be up tomorrow I think - we're waiting for the last spoeakers to confirm | ||
| [2012/01/10 03:22:33] <ohadlevy> jamesturnbull: 10x | ||
| [2012/01/10 03:22:58] <jamesturnbull> ohadlevy: stupid uS immigration - can't leave the country for 2-3 months whilst they "change my status" | ||
| [2012/01/10 03:23:10] <jamesturnbull> I have no idea how this country functions sometimes | ||
| [2012/01/10 03:23:22] <ohadlevy> jamesturnbull: yeah, really annoying, i had the same in Europe | ||
| [2012/01/10 03:24:01] <jamesturnbull> ohadlevy: I should move to Israel - they might conscript me but the immigration is easy... | ||
| [2012/01/10 03:24:20] <ohadlevy> jamesturnbull: you might even get citizenship | ||
| [2012/01/10 03:24:46] <jamesturnbull> ohadlevy: hmmm I wonder if I can hold dual Israeli/Australian citizenship - I can't imagine that'd be a problem | ||
| [2012/01/10 03:24:53] <ohadlevy> jamesturnbull: and sadly.. ithink you are too old for the army ;) | ||
| [2012/01/10 03:26:28] <jamesturnbull> lol | ||
| [2012/01/10 03:26:34] <jamesturnbull> not that they'd have me | ||
| [2012/01/10 03:26:44] <jamesturnbull> I'd be a medical case in about a day | ||
| [2012/01/10 03:26:57] <henk> I thought that too... | ||
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| [2012/01/10 03:40:50] <Kernel_Core> Hi all | ||
| [2012/01/10 03:41:52] <Kernel_Core> I am running CentOS for puppet clients, by default repel repo isnot disabled , I would like to install phpmyadmin to clients... how should I enable repel repository in my class ? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 03:53:14] <rmt_> I suggest creating repo::epel class (or similar), which installs /etc/yum.repos.d/epel.repo .. you could use a define in repo::epel to make this easier. | ||
| [2012/01/10 03:53:46] <rmt_> Whenever you need the epel repo in a recipe, you can then just do "include repo::epel" .. which you can use multiple times, if mixing recipes. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 03:54:25] <Kernel_Core> rmt_: | ||
| [2012/01/10 03:54:26] <Kernel_Core> class phpmyadmin-install{ | ||
| [2012/01/10 03:54:26] <Kernel_Core> package { "phpmyadmin": | ||
| [2012/01/10 03:54:26] <Kernel_Core> ensure => installed, | ||
| [2012/01/10 03:54:26] <Kernel_Core> enablerepo => [ "epel" ]; | ||
| [2012/01/10 03:54:33] <Kernel_Core> what about this ? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 04:02:34] <nan0r> Hi Puppet community | ||
| [2012/01/10 04:02:47] <nan0r> 'mornin | ||
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| [2012/01/10 04:03:17] <Kernel_Core> Hi nan0r | ||
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| [2012/01/10 04:03:47] <bd> *yawn* | ||
| [2012/01/10 04:04:04] <R1ck> when copying a directory recursively from puppetmaster to client, how can I ignore all files ending with .swp? ignore => '*.swp' doesnt work | ||
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| [2012/01/10 04:14:16] <Vorik> Good morning, a little question regarding the new scoping rules: I've got some variables that are needed througout modules, so they must be declared global. | ||
| [2012/01/10 04:14:16] <Vorik> Although, when I declare them in manifests/init.pp as $::zone I get the error "Cannot assign to variables in other namespaces". | ||
| [2012/01/10 04:14:16] <Vorik> AFAIK, when I declare in manifests/init.pp, i am in the root namespace right? | ||
| [2012/01/10 04:14:53] <kjetilho> if you are outside any class, define or node, it is global namespace, yes | ||
| [2012/01/10 04:15:03] <Vorik> Also, when I've declared it as $zone, and I want to use the variable in a module I cannot use $::zone. (it's empty) | ||
| [2012/01/10 04:15:31] <kjetilho> Puppet Labs really hates variables | ||
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| [2012/01/10 04:15:44] <kjetilho> they don't want us to use variable assignment at all, it seems | ||
| [2012/01/10 04:16:02] <kjetilho> the answer? use ENC or extlookup/hiera | ||
| [2012/01/10 04:16:27] <kjetilho> (we haven't quite given up in our config, though :-) | ||
| [2012/01/10 04:16:48] <Vorik> well, if I use $zone in a module, I get the depreciation warning | ||
| [2012/01/10 04:17:14] <Vorik> and $::zone is empty | ||
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| [2012/01/10 04:17:32] <kjetilho> use a parameterized class | ||
| [2012/01/10 04:18:19] <Vorik> nah, this is stuff like the name of the network (LAN, EDMZ, IDMZ) that is used through many modules | ||
| [2012/01/10 04:19:06] <Vorik> but there should be a way to do it without difficult extra steps | ||
| [2012/01/10 04:19:09] <kjetilho> I have a fact (called site) which uses $ipaddress to find out the server location | ||
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| [2012/01/10 04:19:58] <Vorik> ah yes, but cna i create one fact that I can use throughout multiple modules? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 04:20:33] <Vorik> or can I only use a fact within a single module? | ||
| [2012/01/10 04:20:45] <kjetilho> the fact is global | ||
| [2012/01/10 04:20:59] <kjetilho> in fact it will be evaluated on all nodes, regardless of what modules are in use | ||
| [2012/01/10 04:21:54] <Vorik> okay, I'll look into it, thanks! I'll still file a support-request, because I think it's nuts that I cannot use a global variable. (We're using Puppet Enterprise) | ||
| [2012/01/10 04:22:35] <kjetilho> great! | ||
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| [2012/01/10 04:39:54] <oimon> anyone have memory leak issues with puppet (2.6.12)? puppet reports were failling , upon restarting puppetmaster i regained 1.2 GB RAM | ||
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| [2012/01/10 04:43:03] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Whos_Using_Puppet (#44) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Whos_Using_Puppet?version=44 (by Lorenzo Salvadorini) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 04:51:55] <bertrant> hi | ||
| [2012/01/10 04:52:33] <bertrant> when i try to install puppetmaster on rhel6 i get a ruby(selinux) dependency problem, even if selinux is disabled | ||
| [2012/01/10 04:53:17] <bertrant> but i can't find any solution ... anyone else knows this problem? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 04:59:44] <rmt> bertrant, Where are you getting the puppetmaster RPMs from? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 05:17:39] <Raboo> i'm getting nuts with damn suse | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:17:50] <Raboo> does suse behave diffrently in puppet= | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:18:02] <Raboo> i get this error from a suse node | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:18:03] <Raboo> Failed to apply catalog: Could not find dependency Class[Vmware:erase] for Package[vmware-tools] at /etc/puppet/modules/vmware/manifests/init.pp:46 | ||
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| [2012/01/10 05:18:12] <Raboo> i get 0 errors from a centos node | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:18:38] <Raboo> and i do have a include vmware::erase | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:18:59] <Raboo> why must everything go against me... | ||
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| [2012/01/10 05:19:24] <henk> aaaaaw | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:19:52] <Raboo> where can i go from here? | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:20:03] <whack> Raboo: sounds like you aren't actually including vmware::erase on suse | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:20:10] <Raboo> i mean it's working on one node, and a second not | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:20:11] <KristianDK> Raboo, I've received weird dependency errors if there was an error when executing puppet agent on a client before, also, do you have the exact same code or do you have a case selector for which operating system you use? | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:20:16] <henk> to a pastebin? | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:21:08] <Raboo> check line 11 | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:21:10] <Raboo> http://pastie.org/3159408 | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:21:42] <Raboo> ojj | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:21:43] <Raboo> oh | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:21:48] <Raboo> i feel a bit ashamed now | ||
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| [2012/01/10 05:22:11] <Raboo> Class["vmware:erase"], | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:22:13] <Raboo> ;( | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:22:17] <hardcore> whats the websites name where i can find a hugh amount of puppet manifests? | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:22:45] <Raboo> i blame it on the fever | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:22:57] <Raboo> hardcore puppetcookbook.com? | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:22:58] <hardcore> xyz42 on the end i think | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:23:03] <henk> hardcore: puppetforge or something? | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:23:11] <Raboo> labs42 | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:23:15] <hardcore> oh thanks :D | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:23:29] <hardcore> i think labs42 rocks | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:23:39] <Raboo> http://www.example42.com/ | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:23:45] <hardcore> yep | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:23:59] <hardcore> thanks a lot | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:24:10] <Raboo> also checkout this one http://www.puppetcookbook.com | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:24:14] <Raboo> good examples | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:24:20] <hardcore> all right thanks a lot! | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:25:22] <Raboo> the labs42 modules are nice | ||
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| [2012/01/10 05:25:44] <Raboo> but what i do not like is the "monitoring" and "backup" function to every module | ||
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| [2012/01/10 05:25:52] <Raboo> i usually turn that off | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:26:01] <hardcore> same here hehe | ||
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| [2012/01/10 05:30:06] <Vorik> Yeah, I also use lab42. (and disable the monitoring and backup part :) ) | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:30:47] <hardcore> haha | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:30:49] <hardcore> :) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 05:31:52] <Vorik> Not all modules are cross-platform though | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:32:08] <Vorik> I found several that were not compatible with RHEL | ||
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| [2012/01/10 05:34:24] <abhinavmehta> hey everyone.. | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:35:15] <abhinavmehta> I want to updated some config-files, using puppet…but I want to take a backup of the existing files…before it puppet updates with the new one…how to do that..? | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:35:25] <abhinavmehta> I mean, how to take that backup..? | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:36:03] <bd> abhinavmehta: try the puppet type refernce and look for the file type. iirc there is a backup option | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:36:18] <abhinavmehta> bd: thank you. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 05:43:14] <Raboo> Vorik hardcore i've had to modifiy pretty much all, if not for the backup and monitoring.. other stuff aswell for them to work properly | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:43:23] <Raboo> but they do have a good layout | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:43:35] <Raboo> it's a really good starting point | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:43:49] <Raboo> maybe we should create a labs42 fork? :) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 05:48:45] <Raboo> ohh | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:48:50] <Raboo> i'm done! | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:48:56] <Raboo> my modules work in suse now | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:48:58] <Raboo> :-) | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:49:51] <Raboo> germans are usually good at things.. i wonder how they've managed so fail so hard with suse... | ||
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| [2012/01/10 05:51:47] <Raboo> i know i shouldn't brake anything | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:52:18] <Raboo> but that is not my nature and i can't help wondering why | ||
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| [2012/01/10 05:53:05] <Raboo> in package vmware-tools i have default, which requires yumrepo vmware | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:53:22] <Raboo> and i have suse, which doesn't require the "file" zypper repo | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:53:46] <Raboo> however for some reason, the zypper repo file was created before it tried to install vmware-tools on suse | ||
| [2012/01/10 05:53:53] <Raboo> that i do not understand why | ||
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| [2012/01/10 06:50:39] <tim|mac> hey all, is "if defined(Resource["bla"])" still considered unsafe to depend on? in puppet 2.7.9? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 07:12:51] <R1ck> Query OK, 45671452 rows affected (1 hour 35 min 4.85 sec) | ||
| [2012/01/10 07:12:58] <R1ck> \o/ hooray for dashboard | ||
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| [2012/01/10 07:17:23] <RoUS> newbie question: can a manifest obtain the home directory of a user who *isn't* managed by puppet? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 07:17:52] <henk> RoUS: ~user? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 07:19:14] <RoUS> henk: hm. so i can do something based on file { "~someusername/somefile" ... } ? | ||
| [2012/01/10 07:19:24] <RoUS> rockin' | ||
| [2012/01/10 07:19:28] <henk> I guess… | ||
| [2012/01/10 07:19:51] <kjetilho> RoUS: no | ||
| [2012/01/10 07:20:38] <kjetilho> you can only use ~user in shell commands (since they are expanded by the shell on the client) | ||
| [2012/01/10 07:20:46] <RoUS> kjetilho: okey, is there a mechanism with the same effect, if 'someusername' isn't managed? | ||
| [2012/01/10 07:21:18] <kjetilho> I don't think so | ||
| [2012/01/10 07:22:07] <RoUS> kjetilho: all right, what if it *is* managed, then? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 07:22:33] <kjetilho> RoUS: then you can access it via Ruby DSL, I think | ||
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| [2012/01/10 07:23:11] <RoUS> okey, thanks | ||
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| [2012/01/10 07:29:10] <Vorik> Raboo: There is a nextgen library of modules underway, now that looks very promising.. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 07:34:18] <Raboo> Vorik nextgen? | ||
| [2012/01/10 07:34:44] <Vorik> http://example42.com/?q=NextGen | ||
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| [2012/01/10 07:41:54] <Raboo> Vorik cool | ||
| [2012/01/10 07:42:51] <Vorik> Raboo: Indeed! | ||
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| [2012/01/10 07:51:18] <miguelzinho> man, this DSL has some annoying gotchas: package {"ntp": ensure => $::is_virtual ? { true => purged, false => installed, } } | ||
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| [2012/01/10 07:51:37] <miguelzinho> that does not work, I have to quote true and false | ||
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| [2012/01/10 07:55:54] <kjetilho> miguelzinho: hah. facter really needs an overhaul | ||
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| [2012/01/10 07:56:13] <kjetilho> it stupidifies all kinds of facts | ||
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| [2012/01/10 07:56:58] <miguelzinho> kjetilho: this is facter's fault? | ||
| [2012/01/10 07:57:42] <kjetilho> well, the connection between facter and puppet | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:00:15] <Kernel_Core> guys... is there any way to install rpm package from epel-repo without enabling them on the clients ? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:01:57] <Evolution> Kernel_Core: wait, what? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:02:31] <Evolution> Kernel_Core: you want to install epel packages without enabling the epel repo? | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:02:39] <Evolution> (that's how I'm reading what you said) | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:02:43] <Kernel_Core> Evolution: I want to install phpmyadmin on clients | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:02:57] <Kernel_Core> Evolution: but this package is only available in epel repo | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:02:58] <henk> It’s getting better and better :-p | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:03:17] <abhinavmehta> I'm using file bucket, and trying to backup the stuff, with (source => ::$fqdn | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:03:18] <abhinavmehta> first of all is it correct to write like this..if yes, than where my backup'd files are going..and if no, than how one should write, if he don't want to hard-code his server-host-name | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:03:20] <Kernel_Core> Evolution: and I don't want to enable epel on the puppet clients.... | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:03:23] <Evolution> henk: have I told you that I really don't agree with your definition of 'better'? | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:03:26] <Evolution> :-P | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:04:04] <henk> Evolution: hrhr, agreed | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:04:18] <Evolution> Kernel_Core: create a local repository of just the packages you want from epel. | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:05:00] <Kernel_Core> Evolution: can I use the installed epel-repo on clients ? | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:05:10] <Kernel_Core> Evolution: can I use the installed epel-repo on clients without enabling them ? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:05:35] <Kernel_Core> exec {"phpmyadmin-install-app": | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:05:35] <Kernel_Core> command => "/usr/bin/yum -y --nogpgcheck install phpmyadmin --enablerepo=epel", | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:05:37] <Kernel_Core> logoutput => true | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:05:43] <Kernel_Core> also it doesn't work .... | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:05:47] <abhinavmehta> anyone..? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:06:49] <henk> Kernel_Core: Doesn’t work sucks as an error description. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:08:57] <Kernel_Core> henk: I used IRC since 1997 ! I know how to use it dude ! | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:10:00] <henk> hrhr, you should add irony tags, some people might not get it :) | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:10:44] <Evolution> Kernel_Core: using irc and asking a proper question are in no way related. | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:11:19] <abhinavmehta> plz anyone with filebucket answer? | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:11:19] <Evolution> Kernel_Core: please provide some error logging or better debugging beyond "doesn't work" | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:11:37] <Evolution> abhinavmehta: I'm sorry, I'm not ignoring you.. I've just never used it. | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:11:56] <Evolution> I can't help with it. | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:11:59] <abhinavmehta> Evolution: not a problem. :) | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:12:05] <abhinavmehta> but anyone..henk..? | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:12:21] <Kernel_Core> Evolution: when I use puppetd -t -d , I don't see anything related to this class... it seems puppet ignores it . | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:12:42] <henk> What class? You just pasted an exec? | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:13:09] <Vorik> abhinavmehta: sorry, never used it either... perhaps you can try the puppet-users mailinglist on google-groups... | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:13:17] <henk> btw: use a pastebin, pasting into channels is not nice. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:13:31] <abhinavmehta> Vorik: thank you..:) | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:14:11] <henk> abhinavmehta: Not even sure I understand your question. And there is no point in asking everyone active right now personally, that will just scroll your question out of view faster. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:15:50] <abhinavmehta> henk: I understand your point, but thought may I can have your inputs…thats it, no-offense. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:17:25] <henk> abhinavmehta: None taken, just giving advice on what I think is proper behaviour on IRC. Some people might feel offended or annoyed and decide to ignore you for wasting their time, though. | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:17:48] <Kernel_Core> henderb: here is my class file : http://pastebin.ca/2101888 , and nothing happens after I include it to the node . | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:19:10] <abhinavmehta> henk: hmmm…but I did good research(googling) before-hand, before coming to take anyones time…I respect your's and everyones time….but due to less online-documentation about this…I've no other option…but I buy your point. | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:19:45] <Kernel_Core> henk: here is my class file : http://pastebin.ca/2101888 , and nothing happens after I include it to the node . | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:20:48] <henk> abhinavmehta: It’s not the question or your asking, but hilighting persons which might be taken as rude by some people. People will respond to questions if they can and have time. If they don’t the chance that they will when you bug them with it is very low… | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:21:42] <henk> abhinavmehta: Can you elaborate on your problem? You have file resources you want bucketed? And something about $fqdn, but I did not quite get that part. | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:22:42] <henk> Kernel_Core: Sorry, pastebin.ca seems down for me and everyone else (according to http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/pastebin.ca) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:22:51] <abhinavmehta> the problem is simple…I want to using 'file'-resource, and updating some files…and while doing so, I want to backup the old files, on the nodes. | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:22:59] <abhinavmehta> so for that filebuket, is used..I guess | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:23:13] <henk> abhinavmehta: correct. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:23:37] <abhinavmehta> and while using that…you have to provide either 'server' or 'path' (server incase remote-repo, and path in-case of local-node) | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:23:51] <henk> hm, basically. Not sure if filebucket will be able to backup the files on the client itself, but IIRC the client already does something similar anyway. | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:24:01] <henk> ok | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:24:24] <abhinavmehta> ..now for local node..I'm providing fully-qualified-path, and using the 'server'-resource.. | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:24:30] <abhinavmehta> things are working fine.. | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:24:42] <abhinavmehta> but where is my old-file, getting backup'd. | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:25:37] <abhinavmehta> I'm not getting that local path..of backup'd files. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:26:37] <abhinavmehta> and the reason I'm using $fqdn, is because…it makes things more portable…else on local-machines using the hard-coded-paths will break the portability. | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:26:39] <gob_bluth> with the mount {} type, is there a way to use a different setting for one server (or type of servers) and another for another set of servers? as in a if statement within the module init.pp | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:27:07] <abhinavmehta> Am I clear..? | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:27:49] <walkeran> gob_bluth: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/language_guide.html#conditionals | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:28:38] <henk> abhinavmehta: I’m not quite getting the problem. Maybe a paste of what you have helps? | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:28:51] <abhinavmehta> henk: ok | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:28:57] <gob_bluth> thanks walkeran i think that solves my problem | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:29:07] <walkeran> no problem :) | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:29:27] <Kernel_Core> henk: yes ! after I pasted my conf server stoped working .... anyway here is the new paste : http://pastebin.com/1QLTibQM | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:31:13] <gob_bluth> i can do a mountfs => $hostname ? { 'serv1'=>'glusterfs', 'serv2'=>'nfs' } and use the same mount decl. for different backends | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:31:15] <gob_bluth> parfait | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:31:25] <henk> Kernel_Core: That’s nothing I can make anything off… Looks ok. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:32:58] <Kernel_Core> henk: how do I ensure that puppet client load this class ? | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:33:21] <henk> Kernel_Core: include it for that node | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:33:55] <Kernel_Core> henk: I included , but on clients I don't see anything regarding to class phpmyadmin-install | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:34:15] <walkeran> Kernel_Core: Does that class show up in /var/lib/puppet/classes.txt? (or wherever your vardir is) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:35:03] <Kernel_Core> walkeran: no ! it doesn't ...stragne ! | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:36:20] <walkeran> Kernel_Core: It's not ending up in the catalog then, for whatever reason. In the node definition for that server, if you create a notify resource just for debugging purposes, does that end up printing on the agent when you run it? | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:39:22] <Kernel_Core> walkeran: I restarted the both sides , puppet server and client , now I have it , but I get this error : http://pastebin.com/g2iMJFjX | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:40:03] <matchaw_> Hi all, how is it possible to have 2 file resources, one "/this/dir" and set purge and then another "/this/dir/${filename}" | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:40:16] <matchaw_> I keep getting errors saying "/this/dir" already defined.. | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:40:16] <walkeran> matchaw_: Yep! | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:40:46] <matchaw_> probably because it sees "/this/dir/${filename" before the variable is inserted ? | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:40:47] <walkeran> Kernel_Core: Apparently phpmyadmin isn't in that repo? | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:41:10] <matchaw_> walkeran, any ideas? | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:41:12] <walkeran> matchaw_: Is it possible that $filename isn't defined at all? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:41:41] <matchaw_> yes $filename is defined, I am able to use it correctly if I remove the resource "/this/dir/" | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:42:08] <Evolution> Kernel_Core: that's not the name of the package. | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:42:32] <Evolution> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/6/x86_64/repoview/phpMyAdmin.html | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:42:41] <Evolution> case sensitivity matters for rpm names. | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:42:45] <walkeran> matchaw_: Hmm.. would you mind whipping up a pastie of that chunk of code? | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:43:12] <abhinavmehta_> henk: http://pastebin.com/7dWjvczK | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:43:37] <matchaw_> this is what i mean : http://pastie.org/3160247 | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:43:56] <abhinavmehta_> its little elaborated, and I wrote everything in my comments | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:44:35] <walkeran> matchaw_: Looks fine to me. Gimmie a minute, and I'm going to test that snippet out quick | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:46:09] <Kernel_Core> walkeran Evolution: thanks guys ! Solved :) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:47:59] <Kernel_Core> but how do I disable the repo after I installed the phpmyadmin ? | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:48:11] <walkeran> matchaw_: Oh! It's in a define :) That makes sense, then | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:48:18] <matchaw_> walkeran: try this http://pastie.org/3160268 | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:48:23] <matchaw_> this is more what I am trying to do. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:49:02] <walkeran> matchaw_: Remember, each time you use that define, it's going to try to create the resource for /this/dir | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:50:06] <matchaw_> Walkeran: everytime I call the define it should create "/this/dir/${name}" ? | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:50:27] <matchaw_> but it errors saying "/this/dir/" already define elsewhere (line 16) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:50:40] <walkeran> matchaw_: Nevermind... the last pastie wouldn't work if both of the resources were inside the define, but this one should work alright... testing it out quick | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:50:51] <walkeran> matchaw_: Err, I mean first pastie | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:51:26] <matchaw_> ignore first pastie :) it was wrong | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:51:33] <matchaw_> second one is what I am doing | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:52:00] <walkeran> matchaw_: Interesting. That one is working just fine for me as-is | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:53:17] <walkeran> matchaw_: What version of puppet are you running on your agent? Not that it should matter, just curious | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:53:55] <matchaw_> humm, actually let me try that code again | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:54:07] <matchaw_> it should be latest version | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:54:12] <walkeran> ok | ||
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| [2012/01/10 08:55:56] <matchaw_> walkeran, yes that is working by it self. perhaps there is something else in the code which is causing this. | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:55:58] <matchaw_> I will re check | ||
| [2012/01/10 08:55:59] <matchaw_> thanks. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 09:00:38] <henk> abhinavmehta_: ah, ok, now I get it :) I’m not sure where you put those resources and what ::$fqdn will evaluate to… | ||
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| [2012/01/10 09:23:32] <Rudemeister> anyone on Oracle and puppet? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 09:26:42] <dotplus> I have a file { '/foo/bar': ensure => present,recurse => true }, but I get an error "Could not set 'file on ensure: No such file or directory". If I declare another resource file {'/foo': ensure => directory }, then the error goes away. what? I thought 'recurse' was supposed to mean that I didn't need to explicitly declare /foo as a parent for /foo/bar? | ||
| [2012/01/10 09:27:03] <Volcane> thats not what recurse does yeah | ||
| [2012/01/10 09:27:13] <Volcane> recurse recursiely copies the content of one directory to another | ||
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| [2012/01/10 09:28:06] <Rudemeister> is curl the way puppet copies (binary) files ? | ||
| [2012/01/10 09:28:24] <Volcane> no it uses the built in ruby http libraries | ||
| [2012/01/10 09:29:04] <Rudemeister> so if I were to copy a 2Gb file, will it (ab)use the memory or is this only in the 0.25.x version? | ||
| [2012/01/10 09:29:21] <Volcane> well your 2GB file doesnt sound like its a config file | ||
| [2012/01/10 09:29:31] <Volcane> so probably using a config management system to copy it isnt the right idea | ||
| [2012/01/10 09:29:39] <Rudemeister> true, that would be a tarball | ||
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| [2012/01/10 09:29:54] <Volcane> but indeed in more recent versions file copying is more efficient, but its not a system optimized for file serving | ||
| [2012/01/10 09:29:55] <Rudemeister> actually, agreed | ||
| [2012/01/10 09:29:58] <Volcane> its a config management system | ||
| [2012/01/10 09:30:09] <Volcane> maybe you're looking for a package management system to compliment your config managemnet | ||
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| [2012/01/10 09:30:36] <Rudemeister> or I can have puppet tell a file server to push such a tarball | ||
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| [2012/01/10 09:30:54] <Volcane> sure, you could design your own package management system | ||
| [2012/01/10 09:31:08] <Rudemeister> :> tnx Volcane | ||
| [2012/01/10 09:32:42] <Harzilein> is there a puppet.conf setting that specifically sets the logfile name for puppet apply (and nothing else)? | ||
| [2012/01/10 09:32:57] <dotplus> Volcane: so how should I get a file resource to create parent directories if necesasry, without declaring each parent as a separate resource? or is that exactly what I need to do? | ||
| [2012/01/10 09:33:22] <Volcane> dotplus: file{["/foo", "/foo/bar"]: ensure => directory .....} is the only sane way | ||
| [2012/01/10 09:33:28] <Harzilein> i don't want to have to specify it on the command line (eventually someone would forget it) | ||
| [2012/01/10 09:33:45] <Harzilein> neither do i want it mixed with puppet-agent output should there be any | ||
| [2012/01/10 09:34:00] <dotplus> oh. ick. thanks for info tho | ||
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| [2012/01/10 09:36:36] <rjd_> Can I achieve the same functionality as monit, that being ensure a process (and not necessarily a service) is running, by which user and with which arguments (.. and for example with matching pid of some $pidfile)? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 09:49:46] <abhinavmehta_> henk: sorry I was away…okay, I'll manage. :) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 10:06:32] <Volcane> rjd_: puppet tend to only run every 30 minutes or so - presumably you want a higher frequency of maanaging that | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:06:48] <Volcane> rjd_: puppet can though configure monit, thats probably the best approach - use a tool designed to solve that problem | ||
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| [2012/01/10 10:18:40] <cwebber> So... Ideally I will provision my hypervisor systems with the correct (openvz) kernel from the start, but would stages be the correct way to approach installing the correct kernel if it is not installed? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 10:24:22] <Volcane> what is it you're trying to gain by using a stage vs just installing the package? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 10:29:41] <rjd_> Volcane: good point, still in the stage of reading the puppet documentation prior to configuring it. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 10:45:58] <gob_bluth> any recommendations on how to force puppet to add two of the same mount target to fstab ? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 10:46:11] <gob_bluth> svr1 /mnt nfs ... | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:46:15] <gob_bluth> srv2 /mnt nfs ... | ||
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| [2012/01/10 10:47:17] <kjetilho> why do you want that? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 10:51:26] <Sp4rKy> is it possible to have something like : $myvar = $myvar ? { nil => "somedefaultvalue", default => $myvar } | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:53:04] <kjetilho> yes, you can write if ! $myvar { $myvar = "somedefaultvalue" } | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:53:16] <kjetilho> but in practice it can't be used often | ||
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| [2012/01/10 10:53:28] <Sp4rKy> why ? | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:53:30] <Rudemeister> waZzup | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:53:30] <kjetilho> because $myvar can't ever have been seen | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:53:43] <joe-mac> say I have two directories in my modulepath, and I have a module in both, will puppet load them both as a composite, or will the first one win? | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:53:57] <Volcane> joe-mac: like $PATH | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:54:02] <kjetilho> so you can't use it for define parameters, for example | ||
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| [2012/01/10 10:54:30] <joe-mac> Volcane: right, figured... kinda sucks for me cause I have a bunch of generic code but then some private data, for example in my bind module or my dhcpd module | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:54:42] <kjetilho> I think it will try both paths if you look for mod::bar | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:54:42] <joe-mac> the maniest code is generic and would work for anyone, but my configs are obviously sensitive and specific | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:54:48] <Sp4rKy> context : I have some variable used in exec {} command, I will use dashboard as ENC so I can't use define/parametrized class | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:54:55] <kjetilho> ie. it will use the first bar.pp it sees | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:55:10] <kjetilho> but try it and see | ||
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| [2012/01/10 10:55:15] <joe-mac> so I was hoping I could put in like public-modules/dhcpd/manifests/init.pp but have private-modules/dhcpd/files/dhcpd.conf.$fqdn | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:55:46] <joe-mac> I might just have to make a file mount called priv or something | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:55:48] <joe-mac> less than ideal | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:55:49] <kjetilho> Sp4rKy: ok. in that case it will work, I think | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:55:58] <Sp4rKy> ok cool :) | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:56:08] <kjetilho> Sp4rKy: if the variable is coming from ENC or not at all | ||
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| [2012/01/10 10:57:01] <Sp4rKy> if it is set to something other than default value, it will be from ENC, yes | ||
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| [2012/01/10 10:58:47] <joe-mac> so Volcane, when you say like $PATH- in that case, would it find the file? or you mean it's like path as in the module as a whole | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:58:55] <joe-mac> idk if I am expressing myself properly | ||
| [2012/01/10 10:59:04] <joe-mac> talking is hard :-P | ||
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| [2012/01/10 11:00:55] <Volcane> joe-mac: it shold be the module as a whole - but surely this is trivially tested :) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 11:05:55] <joe-mac> yea, just in the middle of three things and not ready to test yet | ||
| [2012/01/10 11:05:56] <joe-mac> will soon | ||
| [2012/01/10 11:05:58] <joe-mac> thanks for your input | ||
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| [2012/01/10 11:20:55] <ChoHag> Can a whole bunch of nearly identical resources be created from a hash?h describing the differences? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 11:32:15] <colon_D> what is the difference between user {} and @user {}? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 11:34:06] <henk> colon_D: Normal vs. virtual resource IIRC | ||
| [2012/01/10 11:34:46] <colon_D> henk: thank you.. now I know what to read up on :-) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 11:34:59] <henk> :) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 11:35:57] <gob_bluth> hi I'm getting this error: | ||
| [2012/01/10 11:36:08] <gob_bluth> Failed to call refresh on Mount[/home/data/shared-nfs]: Execution of '/bin/mount -o /home/data/shared-nfs' returned 1: fusermount: mount failed: Cannot allocate memory#012fusermount: mount failed: Cannot allocate memory#012Mount failed. | ||
| [2012/01/10 11:36:14] <gob_bluth> works when you run that command ont he command line though | ||
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| [2012/01/10 11:36:24] <gob_bluth> is there a way to change the default shell for puppet? it's using /bin/sh right ? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 11:38:06] <geekatcmu> Volcane: have you had experience with exported files not showing up on the hosts which are collecting them? I've verified the file is in the DB, and other collected resources are showing up, just not some files. | ||
| [2012/01/10 11:38:52] <henk> gob_bluth: Maybe. What is /bin/sh? Try running your command with it. And show the fstab entry for that mountpoint please. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 11:40:47] <gob_bluth> /bin/sh -c "/bin/mount -o _netdev /home/data/shared-nfs" that works too | ||
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| [2012/01/10 11:40:55] <geekatcmu> NM, suddenly the files are showing up. | ||
| [2012/01/10 11:40:59] <geekatcmu> I *hate* heisenbugs. | ||
| [2012/01/10 11:41:04] <gob_bluth> shared-files-01:/xy_glusterfs /home/data/shared-nfs glusterfs _netdev 0 0 | ||
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| [2012/01/10 11:41:52] <henk> gob_bluth: Are you aware that the _netdev is missing in the puppet output you pasted? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 11:42:27] <gob_bluth> yeah it doesn't matter though | ||
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| [2012/01/10 11:42:35] <gob_bluth> i've tried it with defaults,_netdev | ||
| [2012/01/10 11:42:53] <gob_bluth> i was thinking it was the options, but it's not, it's the environment. let me double check | ||
| [2012/01/10 11:44:45] <caaakeeey> can I just create and use objects/lists in puppet | ||
| [2012/01/10 11:44:59] <gob_bluth> yeah it's the same thing, it doens't matter what the options are | ||
| [2012/01/10 11:45:24] <kenperkins> puppet makes life so comparatively easy... just rolled out 11.10 for some production servers without nary a hiccup | ||
| [2012/01/10 11:45:34] <gob_bluth> in /bin/bash (logged in), the command works. but when puppet tries to run it it's saying 'cannot allocate memory' | ||
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| [2012/01/10 11:57:51] <Alpha_Punk_> hey is there a definitive "getting started" guide? I obviously have found the docs on the puppetlab site, but is there one real good tutorial/howto ? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 11:59:24] <joe-mac> Alpha_Punk_: the pro puppet book at this point I think is king | ||
| [2012/01/10 11:59:38] <Alpha_Punk_> :/ | ||
| [2012/01/10 11:59:45] <joe-mac> ? | ||
| [2012/01/10 11:59:52] <daysmen_> i second that | ||
| [2012/01/10 11:59:52] <henk> Alpha_Punk_: I | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:00:15] <Alpha_Punk_> that costs 35bucks | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:00:19] <henk> Alpha_Punk_: I started onlywith the official docs. | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:00:19] <joe-mac> is there a canonical way to access the stored config db in an ERB that puppet is compiling? | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:00:24] @ Quit: cliff-hm: Ping timeout: 260 seconds | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:00:29] <joe-mac> Alpha_Punk_: seriously? | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:00:43] <joe-mac> puppet is free | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:00:51] <joe-mac> and it's an epic piece of software that saves thousands of hours of work | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:00:52] <Alpha_Punk_> joe-mac: books often are not free | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:01:02] <Alpha_Punk_> henk: yeah that is what i am doing | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:01:17] <joe-mac> yea, what I'm saying is, 35 dollars isn't exactly expensive, unless you're a broke college student | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:01:20] <daysmen_> yep someones hard work should be rewarded financially | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:01:23] <joe-mac> besides, most companies will pay for books | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:01:39] <Alpha_Punk_> joe-mac: i am not | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:01:43] <Alpha_Punk_> that does not help me today | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:01:47] <Alpha_Punk_> that was my issue with that | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:01:54] <Alpha_Punk_> i can get them to buy it here | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:01:58] <Alpha_Punk_> but it will take a week | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:02:01] <joe-mac> o I c | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:02:03] <Alpha_Punk_> and.. i usually dont buy books | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:02:06] @ Quit: cirbri: Quit: leaving | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:02:14] <Alpha_Punk_> i will continue fumbling with online docs | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:02:20] <joe-mac> you don't have safari? | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:02:24] <torrancew> Alpha_Punk_: it's available in several e-book formats | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:02:30] <torrancew> directly from apress | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:02:37] <Alpha_Punk_> torrancew: i saw | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:02:57] <Alpha_Punk_> why the hell would i have safari? | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:03:00] <Alpha_Punk_> :P | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:03:05] <joe-mac> heh | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:03:27] <siert> Alpha_Punk_: because macs are quiet populair these days? ;) | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:03:36] <Alpha_Punk_> do i look like a homosex? | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:03:38] <Alpha_Punk_> KIDDING | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:03:43] <siert> whaha | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:03:45] <Alpha_Punk_> i better walk away from that one | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:03:46] <henk> Books are way too often out of date shortly after they are written/published | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:03:47] <Alpha_Punk_> :P | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:03:52] <Alpha_Punk_> henk: xactly | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:04:04] <mutex> ... | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:04:17] * Volcane never did get on with safari, their idiotic points system for getting PDFs just seemed like too much hard work | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:04:23] <walkeran> I still think Pro Puppet is worth $35, even if you are only going to read it once, and then never use it again | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:04:42] * antarus thought pro puppet was crap | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:04:43] <antarus> but hey | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:04:54] <antarus> I had already been using puppet for a while when I read it | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:05:46] <daysmen_> antarus: "was crap" explains alot about what you did not like | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:05:59] * antarus is planning on giving it to his new teammates anyway ;) | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:06:14] <antarus> I've kind of a 'dive in and figure stuff out' sort of guy; but not everyone is | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:06:31] <antarus> the book does offer some nice concrete examples | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:07:17] <siert> imho it's nice to have the option to buy a book for a certain product, even if only used as a reference | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:07:32] <Alpha_Punk_> antarus: i am too | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:07:38] <Alpha_Punk_> ill get it | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:07:50] <siert> the documentation must be up-to-date though | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:07:53] <Alpha_Punk_> just a little frustrated that the documentation is HARD to get started on | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:08:05] <Alpha_Punk_> i dont know enough to know if i am using passenger, master, etc | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:08:16] <Alpha_Punk_> or dashboard, etc | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:08:22] <denstark> I didn't have any issues getting started on the documentation | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:08:28] <Alpha_Punk_> hm | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:08:29] <joe-mac> the most basic getting started docs should tell you all of those terms | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:08:33] <siert> Alpha_Punk_: this week me and a couple of collegues are in a puppet training; that's a good kickstart :) | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:08:43] <antarus> daysmen_: we have been using puppet for a while and we don't use things like the dashboard, foreman, mcollective, etc | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:08:51] <antarus> daysmen_: so thats like a third of the book that I can just tear out ;p | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:09:01] <denstark> antarus: same, i don't use any of that either | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:09:46] * antarus would have loved to spend more time on the DSL, custom facts, custom types, etc... | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:09:49] <antarus> spent* | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:10:00] <Alpha_Punk_> antarus: yeah i dont think I want any of that either | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:10:14] <Alpha_Punk_> just want CIS audits on my nessus scanner | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:10:54] <daysmen_> antarus: most folk today need such tools to better control their enviroment especially when you run into the 1000s of managed nodes | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:11:38] <antarus> why use them when you can use our homebrewed custom hacks? :p | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:14:51] <daysmen_> yea that works too | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:22:59] <kenperkins> anyone have a monitoring/alerting framework they like that's not nagios | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:26:15] <mutex> kenperkins: icinga, it is a fork of nagios | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:26:39] <mutex> it is actively maintained, and has all kinds of modern web components that nagios does not have | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:26:49] <siert> kenperkins: zenoss / zabbix / munin ... ? | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:26:49] <siert> kenperkins: I choose zabbix, because of the discovery rules and because my boss wants to see graphs/reports/etc. | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:26:50] <mutex> but it has a good portion of backward compatibility with nagios | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:30:25] <kenperkins> I didnt' think Munin did notification | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:31:57] <mutex> also, graphite has been incredible for trending | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:32:06] <mutex> it literally has a command line for graphs | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:32:11] <kenperkins> hm | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:33:15] <chjohnst> isnt zabbix a port of nagios? | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:33:21] <agaffney> no | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:33:26] <agaffney> totally unrelated | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:33:49] <chjohnst> ahh I believe there is a port of nagios out there, I just don't recall the name | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:34:16] <agaffney> there are a couple of them | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:34:16] <kenperkins> mutex: so icinga looks interesting. alerts are all part of this? | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:34:17] <mutex> I don't even understand what that means | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:34:20] <agaffney> some OSS and some commercial | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:34:34] <mutex> kenperkins: icinga is nagios, just actively maintained it looks exactly like nagios under the hood | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:34:42] <mutex> all the upper web layer is very modern | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:34:45] <chjohnst> icginga! thats it | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:34:51] <mutex> they started throwing away all the ido utils and crazy stuff | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:34:57] * kenperkins doesn't really know nagios at all, just that it's hated by many | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:34:58] <mutex> and write a unified API for message passing | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:35:05] <kenperkins> I want a modern web ui, with alerts | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:35:13] <mutex> go download their VM | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:35:13] <kenperkins> and not a nightmare to setup/learn | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:35:15] <mutex> and try it out | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:35:24] <mutex> you can apt-get it in debian and ubuntu I think | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:35:45] <mutex> for as much as people complain about nagios | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:35:53] <mutex> there is a *lot* of tools out there that work with it | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:35:55] <mutex> including puppet | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:36:01] <mutex> and they just plugin to icinga the same way | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:36:03] * kenperkins is aware of that fact | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:36:04] <chjohnst> can it handle aggregate alerting? ie, an entire site goes down to network link going down and I get "one" alert verse 1000 | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:36:18] <kenperkins> chjohnst: please let that be the case | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:36:25] <kenperkins> my iphone can't handle 500 sms alerts | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:36:27] <mutex> chjohnst: I am pretty sure that if you do your dependancies are setup correctly then nagios supports that too | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:36:28] <chjohnst> yea | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:36:37] <chjohnst> zennoss I think just added support for that | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:37:34] <kenperkins> ah interesting: so zennoss combines graphing into the picture | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:38:24] <mutex> kenperkins: admittedly I have not worked on getting nagios/icinga data into graphite | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:38:34] <mutex> it just is not that important to me at the moment | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:38:42] <kenperkins> are you using graphite for your graphing | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:38:47] <mutex> yes, and it is awesome | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:38:54] <chjohnst> didnt someone write a plugin for nagios->graphite? | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:38:54] <kenperkins> <sigh> | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:38:58] <kenperkins> I can't decide what to do | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:39:03] <chjohnst> I think I saw one sitting out there, a gateway of some sort | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:39:26] <mutex> kenperkins: gets big management points because you can create really pretty graphs in about 5 minutes | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:39:43] <kenperkins> yea, I see the value there | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:40:00] <mutex> in the mrtg world, graphs a fairly static | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:40:11] <mutex> but in the graphite world, it is like a unix command line for graphs | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:40:12] <chjohnst> yea graphite + gdash looks nice | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:40:19] <kenperkins> what's gdash | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:40:28] <flipwork> gdash eh | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:40:48] <chjohnst> thats volcanes project | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:40:52] <flipwork> oooh, that IS nice looking | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:41:12] <jorhett1> kenperkins: the hood is all there is to hate about nagios. The infrastructure flexibility is awesome. | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:41:14] <chjohnst> yea looks nice | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:41:48] <jorhett1> I have often installed nagios, torn out all the defaults and use both our own UI and our own tests and alerts, just using the skeleton provided | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:41:48] <kenperkins> so nagios/icinga is monitoring/alerting, graphite is graphing, my guess is I want all 3 | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:41:52] <flipwork> once my graphite+statsd setup sucks less, I'll use that | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:42:09] <mutex> kenperkins: I'm of the 'use the tool that is best for the job' philosophy | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:42:13] * Volcane has something that listens for events on my middleware and https://github.com/ripienaar/typhon/tree/master/samples/nagios to just feed in nagios data | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:42:17] <mutex> flipwork: I used collectd + graphite plugin, works awesome | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:42:24] <kenperkins> oh | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:42:28] <kenperkins> graphite works with collectd? | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:42:32] <mutex> yup | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:42:34] <mutex> like I said | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:42:35] <mutex> awesome | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:42:39] * kenperkins already has collectd on all my servers | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:42:44] <kenperkins> what is the front end for it? | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:42:47] <flipwork> mutex: my current problem is that logstash doesn't escape dots in host names | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:42:58] <mutex> you just install this plugin, and it converts all the collectd data into graphite format | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:43:02] <mutex> automatically | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:43:04] <flipwork> so when I push into graphite its all screwed up | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:43:21] <kenperkins> I was using visage, but it was too slow with much data | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:43:43] <mutex> kenperkins: lemme find the link | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:44:00] <flipwork> collectd + graphite looks like a nice alternative to cacti though | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:44:12] <mutex> https://github.com/joemiller/collectd-graphite | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:44:13] <flipwork> although, cacti is nice for historical stuff | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:44:58] <mutex> kenperkins: you can either install it on your 'collector' or do it on individual hosts | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:45:06] <mutex> I opted for the latter | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:45:10] <kenperkins> individual hosts? | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:45:32] <mutex> yeah, you can have each individual collectd host send the data | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:45:51] <mutex> or collectd has this mode for collecting lots of data from hosts and agregating them | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:45:59] <mutex> then send the data to graphite from there | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:46:15] <kenperkins> yea, that's what I do, collectd sends to collectd master | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:46:23] <kenperkins> so sounds like it'd be easier to install graphite on the master | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:46:25] <chjohnst> what about ganglia | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:46:26] <mutex> then you just install the graphite plugin there | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:46:38] <chjohnst> ganglia has a slick ui, decent protocol (lightweight) | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:46:49] <chjohnst> easy to install and scales well | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:46:53] <mutex> chjohnst: did they change the static graphs ? | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:46:54] <chjohnst> I believe graphite support is coming or is there now | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:47:22] <chjohnst> so they still have the rrd backends as a default | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:47:26] <mutex> sad | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:47:37] <mutex> it is just a different world with graphite, I can't go back | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:47:53] <chjohnst> yea I know | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:48:03] <mutex> beign able to overlay two datasets is just too awesome | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:48:06] <flipwork> it is pretty darn cool, I just started playing with it | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:48:11] <chjohnst> http://blog.vuksan.com/2010/09/29/integrating-graphite-with-ganglia/ | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:48:17] <flipwork> pumping my apache access logs from logstash into it | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:48:20] <kenperkins> is graphite the graphing engine, the consumption front end? or ?? | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:48:22] <mutex> also being able to inject historical data | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:48:25] <flipwork> kenperkins: both | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:48:35] <mutex> kenperkins: there is a backend that stores data in a time series called carbon | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:48:58] <mutex> my *only* complaint is that the packaging is difficult, and that it tends to log WAY to much data | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:49:04] <mutex> i'm talking 3 or 4 gigs a week | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:49:13] <kenperkins> it's a bit confusing to figure out what to install first :D | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:50:41] <flipwork> mutex: how did you end up packaging it? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:51:13] <mutex> flipwork: found a package for ubuntu that I adapted for debian | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:51:15] <mutex> for 0.9.8 | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:51:27] <mutex> i'm behind I guess | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:51:40] <flipwork> well then, lucky you :-) | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:51:53] <mutex> yeah | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:51:57] <mutex> ii python-graphite 0.9.8-1~lucid1~ppa15 | ||
| [2012/01/10 12:51:57] <flipwork> maybe I can find a redhat one to adapt to Suse | ||
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| [2012/01/10 12:52:31] <Swat-> siert: u there? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 13:00:16] <joemiller> mutex: glad that plugin is working out for you | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:00:23] <mutex> :-D | ||
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| [2012/01/10 13:01:13] <mutex> joemiller: I packaged it up if you are interested in publishing a deb | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:01:32] <joemiller> sure | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:02:08] <mutex> lemme take a look at my package builds and I'll shoot you an email | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:02:14] <joemiller> tnx | ||
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| [2012/01/10 13:31:35] <flakrat> is there a way to append to a users groups in the user definition? I'm seeing that if I define userA groups => ["1", "2"] in the virt_all_users.pp and then further specify userA groups => ["3"] for node1_users.pp, the user on node1 will only have group 3 as a secondary, not 1 and 2 | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:31:51] <flakrat> is there a way to do a += type groups define? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 13:36:49] <nate_h> flakrat, can you just store the original two groups in a variable and then append to that variable and call the define again? | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:37:24] <flakrat> hmm, that might work | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:37:44] <nlew> flakrat: You can use the +> operator, but I think it might only work for overrides (I forget the rules) | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:38:01] <flakrat> let me try that | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:38:18] <nlew> oh apparently it's been in since before overrides, so that theory is probably wrong.. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 13:39:47] <flakrat> nlew, that worked, since node1_users.pp includes virt_all_users.pp it's now applying both sets of groups | ||
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| [2012/01/10 13:48:05] <abhinavmehta> having a small doubt regarding puppet project structure layout. Problem statement here: http://pastie.org/3161739 | ||
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| [2012/01/10 13:49:20] <abhinavmehta> actually, its not about project-layout…but precisely about 'templates'-dir layout. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 13:52:04] <nlew> abhinavmehta: Templates will be searched for in modules regardless of the templatedir setting. templatedir is just additional places to look for them. | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:52:51] <abhinavmehta> nlew: if i remove that --templatedir option, it fails. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 13:53:21] <abhinavmehta> nlew: what you said, was also my expectation…but unfortunately doesn't work. | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:53:28] <nlew> abhinavmehta: What does the argument you're passing to template() look like? | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:54:27] <abhinavmehta> I've tried "template(module1/templates/sometemplate.erb) as well just "template(some template.erb)" | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:54:41] <abhinavmehta> none of the them worked. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 13:55:18] <abhinavmehta> *please ignore punctuation marks, and spaces. | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:55:23] <tizzo> how do you extend a parameterized class? | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:55:25] <nate_h> i think its ("Module/template.erb") | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:55:38] <tizzo> `class mysql5-dev ($mysqlpassword) inherits mysql5 {` is throwing an error | ||
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| [2012/01/10 13:55:50] <tizzo> that I have to pass the param to mysql5 | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:55:53] <abhinavmehta> nate_h: make sense..give a sec. | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:56:07] <tizzo> but `class mysql5-dev ($mysqlpassword) inherits mysql5 ($mysqlpassword) {` doesn't work either | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:56:25] <nlew> tizzo: #6539 :( | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:56:25] <gepetto> nlew: tizzo: #6539 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/6539 "Puppet - Bug #6539: Inheritance of a parametrized class does not work. It has a status of Accepted and is assigned to Nick Lewis" | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:56:26] <Volcane> inheritance and param classes just doesnt work | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:56:39] <tizzo> blaaaaaaaaah | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:56:40] <nate_h> ya inheritance with params is borken | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:56:42] <tizzo> oh noes!!!!!! | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:56:55] <tizzo> k. back to the drawin' board | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:57:06] <tizzo> thanks guys, you just saved me a lot of head/wall banging | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:57:09] <nlew> I think it might work if you declare the parent somewhere, before declaring the child | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:57:35] <tizzo> nlew: so if you include the parent class then the child class? | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:57:38] * tizzo goes to try it | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:57:45] <nlew> yeah | ||
| [2012/01/10 13:58:14] <abhinavmehta> nate_h, nlew: you were correct nlew, donno..why this doesn't came to my mind..! Thanks guys.! :) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 13:58:59] <tizzo> nlew: nah, doesn't seem to | ||
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| [2012/01/10 14:00:35] <nate_h> tizzo, ya thats why I use an external data lookup | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:00:56] <tizzo> nate_h: I'm afraid I don't actually know what that means :-[ | ||
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| [2012/01/10 14:01:02] <nate_h> extlookup or hiera | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:01:04] * tizzo is somewhat new to puppet | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:01:33] <jorhett1> has anyone seen "no locks available" report before? | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:01:44] <nate_h> tizzo, i basically don't do inheritance hehe | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:01:52] <tizzo> ah | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:01:56] <tizzo> I think I see | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:01:58] <jorhett1> "Error 400 on SERVER: Could not read YAML data for node blah.blah.blah: No locks available" | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:01:58] <the_ramink> tizzo: external data sources so you can have your module query for data rather than rely on inheritance or tricky Ruby code | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:02:11] <tizzo> right | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:02:31] <nate_h> so my init.pp does have a default parameter that reads in a hash of data for all the info that module needs | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:02:37] <nate_h> then i store that hash in a data.pp | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:02:40] <nate_h> and all my subclasses inherit that | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:02:43] <nate_h> so they all have access to the hash | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:03:01] <nate_h> not perfect, but works ok | ||
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| [2012/01/10 14:04:00] <dpittman> jorhett1: no, but we have seen other locking issues around YAML locking with flock, etc. Can you reproduce with `--trace` and confirm where it comes from? | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:04:38] <dpittman> jorhett1: Ultimately, though, it is pretty much likely that flock (or whatever kernel locking Ruby uses) is returning a failure, and we just abort because of it. Which suggests kernel tuning as the most likely solution. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 14:11:07] <tizzo> actually I got it | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:11:17] <tizzo> you separately call both parent and child handing in the param | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:11:26] <tizzo> I assume the child will still override the parent? | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:11:29] <tizzo> lets hope so... | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:11:36] <tizzo> anywayz, it did work | ||
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| [2012/01/10 14:17:44] <jorhett1> dpittman: can't reproduce because it seems to happen about once a week on a very busy server. I'd have to run the entire server on trace, right? Or would trace from the client help? | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:18:43] <jorhett1> given that the path reported is the server path, seems like I need more locks available to the passenger app? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 14:29:44] <zleslie> Anyone know where the documentation for using source => ["one","two","three"] is for the file resource? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 14:30:43] <Dewin> I'm still trying to figure out what causes "warning: Scope(Class[Mysql]): Could not look up qualified variable 'config::server_id'; class config has not been evaluated at .../puppet/modules/mysql/manifests/init.pp:17". All of my googling has found nothing but bug reports. What particularly confuses me is that 'config' evaluates before mysql and the error goes away if I instead refer to a class that inherits config (config::network::ser | ||
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| [2012/01/10 14:31:05] <zleslie> Dewin: do you gave a module named "config" ? | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:31:10] <Dewin> Yes. | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:31:37] <zleslie> Do you "include config" in your mysql module? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 14:32:32] <Dewin> Tried with include, require, and Classes['config']->Classes['mysql'] | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:32:44] <Dewin> plus config is in an earlier run stage | ||
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| [2012/01/10 14:33:21] <zleslie> Dewin: if you do "include config::server", you should be able to reference variables in config::server with $::config::server::foo | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:34:11] <Dewin> Oh, that's odd. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 14:34:48] <Dewin> Yeah, $::config::server_id works, but $config::server_id does not. Is "config" magic somehow? (I read about a "settings" that is) | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:35:11] <Dewin> Oh! I think I know why | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:35:23] <Dewin> There's a class mysql::config ,so it's referencing ::mysql::config rather than ::config | ||
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| [2012/01/10 14:38:31] <the_ramink> Dewin: unrelated to your problem, but you might find it better to autogenerate server_id based on the local IP, server_id = <%= ipaddress.split('.').inject(0) {|total,value| (total << 8 ) + value.to_i} %> On eless thing to manage. | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:38:52] <Dewin> server_id is based on hostname and is used to actually assign the local IPs. | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:39:18] <the_ramink> ah, interesting. Makes sense that way | ||
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| [2012/01/10 14:41:14] <Dewin> I think that having the warning message report the fully-qualified class name would save a lot of headache in similar situations, if it had said "class mysql::config has not been evaluated" I would have known right away what was happening. | ||
| [2012/01/10 14:41:32] <Dewin> I think I'll go file a minor bug report. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 15:35:50] <pdtpatrick_> Question -- I'm following the documentation on puppet labs and got this error | ||
| [2012/01/10 15:35:53] <pdtpatrick_> $ sudo puppet resource user | ||
| [2012/01/10 15:35:53] <pdtpatrick_> Could not parse for environment production: Could not find file /home/ubuntu/resource.pp | ||
| [2012/01/10 15:36:07] <nfagerlund> pdtpatrick_: do puppet --version | ||
| [2012/01/10 15:36:21] <pdtpatrick_> 0.25.4 | ||
| [2012/01/10 15:36:43] <nfagerlund> pdtpatrick_: Yeah, that's not going to work. The "puppet <SUBCOMMAND>" command format arrived in 2.6. | ||
| [2012/01/10 15:36:48] <nfagerlund> pdtpatrick_: just a sec | ||
| [2012/01/10 15:36:54] <nfagerlund> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/tools.html | ||
| [2012/01/10 15:37:02] <eric0> ralsh was the old name | ||
| [2012/01/10 15:37:11] <nfagerlund> pdtpatrick_: the command you'll need to use is "ralsh." there's a translation table there for the rest of the commands. | ||
| [2012/01/10 15:37:55] <nfagerlund> pdtpatrick_: And there are a bunch of more modern features that won't work with 0.25. But you should be able to get plenty done anyway. Consider upgrading when you have the chance, and until then just make sure you're using the right command names. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 15:38:12] <pdtpatrick_> I'm going to see if there's a pap for puppet and install the latest | ||
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| [2012/01/10 15:38:28] <nfagerlund> pdtpatrick_: the other big gotcha is the puppet.conf file. in 0.25 and earlier, the blocks are [puppetd] and [puppetmasterd] instead of [agent] and [master]. | ||
| [2012/01/10 15:38:51] <nfagerlund> pdtpatrick_: cool, good luck. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 15:45:52] <pdtpatrick_> $ puppet --version | ||
| [2012/01/10 15:45:53] <pdtpatrick_> 2.6.1 | ||
| [2012/01/10 15:45:54] <pdtpatrick_> :) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 15:46:14] <pdtpatrick_> nfagerlund: is this sufficient enough ? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 15:47:48] <nfagerlund> pdtpatrick_: You'll be able to follow the directions, I think! trying to remember if there were any major problems w/ 2.6.1; it's definitely missing some features, but it'll take a while for you to run into those, I think. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 15:48:14] <pdtpatrick_> oh cool | ||
| [2012/01/10 15:48:17] <pdtpatrick_> thanks :) | ||
| [2012/01/10 15:48:23] <nfagerlund> no prob! :) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 15:51:51] <themadcanudist> Hey guys… Quick question about collecting exported resources… The filter condition, I know I can filter based off of keys in a resource, can I do it off of variables? top-scope or class? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 15:56:51] <eric0> jamesturnbull: the eventbrite triage signup page has now beachballed both safari and chrome when i click the Quantity pulldown...crazy | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:01:09] <pdtpatrick_> anyone use vim-puppet? does that work well ? | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:01:33] <pdtpatrick_> or do u guys use something like textmate to make life easier? | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:01:47] @ Quit: abhinavmehta: Quit: abhinavmehta | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:02:31] <daff> pdtpatrick_: I use vim-puppet, but it doesn't really do much more than proper syntax-highlighting | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:02:57] <Harzilein> pdtpatrick: i included it with pathogen and it works as advertised. nothing fancy, as daff said. | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:03:26] <pdtpatrick_> yeah that's what i noticed as well. I thought it would auto indent and all that other fancy stuff. Thanks guys | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:03:28] <the_ramink> pdtpatrick_: there's a fairly complete Eclipse plugin for Puppet called gepetto. | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:03:50] <daff> yeah, gepetto looks nice | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:04:04] <daff> but nothing you can or should run on the puppetmaster itself :) | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:04:07] <pdtpatrick_> Might try it out. Also sometimes eclipse can get angry and spit java and i'll have no idea what happened :( . WIll check it | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:05:47] <the_ramink> there is also puppet-lint which you can gem install though it's a best practices check rather than syntax | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:06:23] <daff> say, when using the group type to add a system group, and the group already exists with the same gid and name, shouldn't that count as success for puppet? | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:06:36] <daff> i.e. this is an error: change from absent to present failed: Could not create group admin: Execution of '/usr/sbin/groupadd -g 111 -r admin' retur | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:06:39] <daff> ned 4: groupadd: GID '111' already exists | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:06:51] <daff> but shouldn't it instead be considered a success? | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:07:15] <pdtpatrick_> the_ramink daff .. check it out | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:07:15] <pdtpatrick_> https://github.com/masterzen/puppet-textmate-bundle | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:07:21] <pdtpatrick_> or for anyone interested | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:09:37] <daff> I don't know, paying money for a text editor seems wrong :) | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:10:41] <windowsrefund> unless you're mad at your money | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:10:45] <pdtpatrick_> haha yeah it sure does | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:11:04] <pdtpatrick_> i tried a lot of different editors and finally decided fine i'll pay and so far so good | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:12:14] <pdurbin> vim-puppet does autoindenting for me... | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:12:56] <daff> pdtpatrick_: really? it doesn't for me | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:13:45] <pdurbin> "Formatting based on the latest Puppetlabs Style Guide" -- https://github.com/rodjek/vim-puppet | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:13:51] <pdurbin> as advertised | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:13:55] <daff> hm | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:14:11] <daff> probably not the same vim-puppet that comes from puppetlabs? | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:14:19] <pdurbin> no idea | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:14:44] <daff> I'll try it at once, thanks for the hint | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:14:47] <gnat42> is there a way to have a fact tell the last time a puppet client successfully talked with the puppetmaster? | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:14:50] <antarus> is there a way to extend types? | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:14:57] <joe-mac> you can override them | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:15:06] <joe-mac> which I've had to do for sshkey | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:15:06] <gnat42> I realize its kinda chicken and egg | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:15:15] <joe-mac> you can even override single providers | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:15:18] <antarus> so I can say 'hey File is really CustomFile' ? | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:15:34] <pdurbin> daff: sure. rodjek is the same guy behind puppet-lint, mentioned above, which is also very good | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:15:36] <joe-mac> yea you just put your own custom type with the same name in a module, look at the plugins in modules wiki | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:15:43] <antarus> mmm | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:17:48] <antarus> so what I am really aiming for is a File-like type that has a specific replacement semantic | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:18:04] <antarus> I'm probably just not good enough at ruby to write it 'succintly' | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:18:06] * antarus tries anyway | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:20:47] <antarus> bleh, the file type is complicated ;p | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:22:03] <nlew> antarus: By far the most complicated type. :/ What behavior are you trying to accomplish? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:23:16] <antarus> the idea is basically that we manage a bunch of config files | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:23:20] <antarus> but some users want customizations | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:23:37] <antarus> so I was hoping that they would drop some state on their machine that would be expressed in a fact | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:23:51] <antarus> and then then I'd replace File with CustomFile | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:24:00] <antarus> that based its replacement strategy on the fact values | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:24:15] <antarus> I imagine very little code actually needs to change | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:24:35] <antarus> I'm familiar with re-opening classes in ruby | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:24:45] <antarus> the puppet scaffolding is strange to me ;) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:28:00] <nlew> antarus: hmm you could potentially have a custom type that will generate an appropriate file resource | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:28:29] <nlew> antarus: to still use the file type for managing files, but not decide what the content should be until evaluating on the agent | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:28:48] <nlew> though I'm still not entirely clear of the behavior you want | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:32:07] <antarus> nlew: I can try an example | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:32:19] <blinki> hi, relative neophyte to puppet; trying to configure a puppetmaster on debian 6.0.3 using puppet 2.6.2 from apt; I get the following when I try to test the config: can't convert String into Integer at /etc/puppet/modules/common/manifests/init.pp:19 on node xyz. Is this a result of the version I'm using or just an upstream bug with their modules? | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:32:23] <antarus> nlew: I ship an /etc/ssh/sshd_config as a default config for my customers | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:32:36] <antarus> nlew: some customers need to customize that; but puppet will always overwrite their changes | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:33:09] <antarus> nlew: So I offer some kind of functionality like 'hey write /etc/ssh/sshd_config to some file' and then I'll export that as a custom facter fact | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:33:31] <antarus> so now I have a fact like i_want_a_custom_etc_ssh_sshd_config = yes | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:34:09] <Dewin> antarus: there's a 'replace => false' option for files that will create a nonexistant file but not overwrite an existing one.... hmm, that wouldn't work since it's generated right out the gate with the package install though | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:34:18] <antarus> now I want my File resources to respect that fact, so File { ... replace = $i_want_a_custom_etc_ssh_sshd_config } | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:34:39] <antarus> Dewin: putting my default file down is fine, the point is I don't want to touch it again | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:35:12] <cosman2001> bgupta, did you every package foremancli as a gem | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:35:13] <nlew> So what about that solution is insufficient? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:37:07] <antarus> nlew: nothing; I just don't know how to modify the File type | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:37:53] <antarus> (part of the problem with making a custom type is that arguments are explicit) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:38:10] <nlew> antarus: Doesn't seem like you need to? replace => ! $i_want_a_custom_etc_ssh_sshd_config | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:38:29] <nlew> Or do you let them arbitrarily choose files not to override? | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:38:43] <antarus> The user can override whatever files they like | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:38:54] <antarus> I don't really want to write the replace logic for every File resource | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:38:57] <nlew> ahh | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:38:58] <antarus> i want it to be implicit | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:39:04] <antarus> yeah otherwise we will forget ;) | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:40:02] <Dewin> antarus: How do you know for sure if they overrided a file as opposed to it, say, being the defaults from installing the package (as opposed to the defaults you push down from puppet?) | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:40:27] <eric0> sounds like you really want to have the file resources run in a separate config tree (environment or tag) from the regular resources | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:40:34] <eric0> and only execute them on bootstrap | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:41:23] <eric0> that way you can give a clean baseline but regular runs only enforce things that can safely be dictated by the puppet server | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:41:52] <nlew> is it unreasonable for your users to use puppet to manage those files? | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:42:03] <Dewin> Why must file() (not file { }) require fully qualified paths instead of being able to work relative to the module dir... | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:42:25] <antarus> nlew: yes | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:42:34] <antarus> nlew: we do that now sorta, it is horrible | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:42:51] <antarus> my users are not puppet-aware, don't want to be puppet-aware, etc... | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:43:10] <antarus> eric0: that is a possibility | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:43:24] <antarus> I'll add it to my design | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:43:35] <eric0> Dewin: #5158 | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:43:36] <gepetto> eric0: Dewin: #5158 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/5158 "Puppet - Feature #5158: File resources: Make source/content parameters and the file/template functions consistent.. It has a status of Needs Decision and is assigned to Nigel Kersten" | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:45:17] <eric0> heh i seem to have a scary amount of the bug tracker in my head :P | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:45:22] <gnat42> can I access facts from a ruby file meant to add other facts? | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:45:59] <Dewin> eric0: Clearly you're just a highly advanced AI replicating the bug database as an idle process. | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:49:55] <eric0> sigh, if only the rest of my plantary-scale processing power could be used to advance the things i'm supposed to be working on | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:52:21] <pdtpatrick_> Questionn .. where can u find more details for the parameters when u run "puppet describe -s resource" | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:54:54] <Jailbait> Has anyone dealt with having 2 separate masters running the same content? Page 27 of the Usermanual suggests rsync and 'puppet apply', while the person here who set everything up - but hasn't done much with it since - thinks that you should be able to use puppet to duplicate itself. The 1st sounds easier. Is the 2nd A) possible and B) doable in reasonable time? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:57:35] <teratoma> i have more than one master. /etc/puppet is in svn. i have the 2 puppet masters update their checkout of the puppet config repo every minute. there you go | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:57:59] <Jailbait> Right. That's more-or-less the rsync solution... | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:58:36] <teratoma> actually i have 10 puppetmasters. i probably have a lot more machiens than you!. it works. sometimes SVN gets hung up and there are problems. i deal. | ||
| [2012/01/10 16:58:54] <teratoma> i configure my puppet clients and the puppetmasters with puppet too | ||
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| [2012/01/10 16:59:32] <Jailbait> 'configure' the masters, but keep the file service content separate? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:00:33] <eric0> an approach i'm kind of moving towards is having the puppet configs packaged up in an RPM , the version of which is managed through puppet but it's distributed alongside all our other custom packages. so a new release of puppet config is an (automated) export from revision control, create rpm, upload to yum servers | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:01:32] <teratoma> Jailbait: my puppet configs ( class files ) are in source control. yours should be too! | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:01:36] <eric0> for a long time i've run with the puppet master module area a svn working copy like teratoma , so it's just an 'svn up' to get new changes live. but that's getting to be a little seat-of-the-pants for the volume of change | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:03:26] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Big_Picture (#20) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Big_Picture?version=20 (by Joe Foley) | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:03:33] <neonflux> pgamesdb01 now has mysql running and pgames01 has nginx and php installed | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:03:43] <neonflux> neither one configured though | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:04:06] <pdtpatrick_> Question .. using faster, puppet does not see ec2 instances as virtual, whereas using ESXi, it does | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:04:43] <pdtpatrick_> s/faster/facter | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:05:11] <the_ramink> pdtpatrick: it's very dependent on facter version. If you're running facter < 1.6 I'd look at upgrading. You can use apt or yum .puppetlabs.com | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:06:01] <gnat42> I'd like to modify puppet so it logs to a file the last time it was able to talk to the puppet master | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:06:21] <pdtpatrick_> the_ramink: 1.5.6 is running on amazon and 1.5.7 is running on ESXi | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:06:27] <pdtpatrick_> i'll get the latest version then | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:06:35] <gnat42> looking around I'm wondering if adding it to the retrieve_and_apply_catalog function within benchmark.rb would be the appropriate palce | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:06:37] <gnat42> place | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:07:11] <murkk> I have a question regarging puppet dashboard, Is this the place or is there a separate channel? | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:08:45] <the_ramink> pdtpatrick_: yeah that version is crap. IIRC you needed patches to get the ec2 facts to work properly in that version. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:09:33] <pdtpatrick_> the_ramink: i just installed 1.6.4 and now it complains. | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:09:34] <pdtpatrick_> The interpreter parameter to 'setcode' is deprecated and will be removed in a future version. | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:09:34] <pdtpatrick_> Error: undefined method `get_uptime' for Facter::Util::Uptime:Module | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:10:49] <the_ramink> pdtpatrick_: which distro and version? | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:10:57] <pdtpatrick_> Debian Squeeze | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:11:07] <pdtpatrick_> Release: 6.0.3 | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:12:26] <the_ramink> hmmm, works for me in 10.04 lts and 12.04-prewhatever. You installed via apt.puppetlabs.com and not with gem or anything? | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:13:18] <pdtpatrick_> did u add that to ur sources.list ? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:18:04] <the_ramink> pdtpatrick_: yep. I just pushed it to my examples repo. https://github.com/rkhatibi/rdk-puppet-modules/blob/master/apt/manifests/puppetlabs.pp | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:21:51] <pdtpatrick_> the_ramink: i added the following | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:21:52] <pdtpatrick_> deb http://apt.puppetlabs.com/ubuntu lucid main | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:21:56] <pdtpatrick_> then apt-get update | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:22:11] <pdtpatrick_> and then import the gpg key it complains about | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:22:15] <pdtpatrick_> then apt-key add | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:22:59] <pdtpatrick_> nice | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:23:05] <pdtpatrick_> facterversion => 1.6.4 | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:23:11] <pdtpatrick_> is_virtual => true | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:24:50] <daff> pdtpatrick_: the correct source line for puppetlabs apt repos is now "deb http://apt.puppetlabs.com/ <dist> main" | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:25:11] <pdtpatrick_> right ..thats what i did above | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:25:19] <daff> seems there is some repository re-organisation underway | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:25:37] <daff> the URL doesn't contain "ubuntu" anymore | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:26:18] <pdtpatrick_> oh | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:36:31] <murkk> Is there any information on programmatically setting node parameters in puppet dashboard. I can't find a rake task for it. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:36:48] <murkk> Maybe an api for dashboard? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:42:27] <dwalu> How does one compare versions between the versions of a puppet module installed through "puppet-module install" and ones downloaded from github? | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:42:39] <dwalu> I'm trying to verify that a version of a module I installed is the same one on puppetlabs' github account | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:42:47] <stahnma> for those running into puppet daemons hanging on certain kernels, it looks like Red hat just published some new ones. https://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/10418 (last comment) | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:42:58] <dwalu> it seems that the revision file gets created by puppet module tool | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:43:48] <dwalu> I'm hoping the one on github is newer, because the one on forge seems to be broken | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:44:22] <dwalu> same date in the changelog. crap. :( | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:44:56] <dwalu> is there a more functional mysql module? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:47:11] <torrancew> dwalu: github is almost certainly the newest, though they could be equal | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:48:56] <stahnma> dwalu: I think the mysql module from puppetlabs was updated very recently | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:49:21] <stahnma> or it has outstanding pull requests on it...one of the two came across my email recently | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:49:36] <stahnma> ccaum: dwalu has some mysql module questions | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:49:41] <stahnma> ping ccaum | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:49:42] <stahnma> :) | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:49:47] <ccaum> stahnma: who? | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:49:49] <Swat-> Evening | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:50:25] <stahnma> ccaum: dwalu was asking something about it...I punted | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:50:26] <ccaum> stahnma: Oh, different channel :) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:50:43] <Swat-> Is it possible in a manifest to have an array and somehow iterate trough it? | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:51:21] <dwalu> ccaum: it appears that on debian 6, creating a mysql server and setting the root password fails. the first time I tried it it reated two accounts with empty passwords, the third time it locked me out. | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:51:30] @ Quit: kelseyhightower: Ping timeout: 252 seconds | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:51:58] <ccaum> dwalu: Hmm. Which version are you using? | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:52:10] <dwalu> version of? | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:52:13] <dwalu> mysql? | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:52:25] <ccaum> dwalu: Which version of the puppetlabs/mysql module | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:52:49] <dwalu> ccaum: whichever one gets installed via puppet-module. The revision file says 0.0.1 | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:53:34] <dwalu> which appears to be the same version as on github | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:53:35] <ccaum> dwalu: K. Can you try it with version 0.0.2? http://forge.puppetlabs.com/users/puppetlabs/modules/bacula | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:53:59] <dwalu> huh? bacula? | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:54:03] <dwalu> isn't that backup software? | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:54:06] <ccaum> dwalu: Err, sorry | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:54:20] <dwalu> http://forge.puppetlabs.com/users/puppetlabs/modules/mysql shows version 0.0.1 | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:54:33] <ccaum> dwalu: I pasted the wrong link. | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:54:36] <dwalu> ah | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:54:54] <ccaum> dwalu: You're right. 0.0.1 is the latest version | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:55:24] <ccaum> dwalu: So if you don't set a root password it works fine, yes? | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:55:34] <dwalu> ccaum: I haven't tried not setting a root password | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:55:53] <ccaum> dwalu: Do you get any errors from the puppet run? | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:56:17] <dwalu> Jan 10 22:51:14 dwalu puppet-agent[28310]: (/Stage[main]/Mysql::Config/Exec[set_mysql_rootpw]/returns) change from notrun to 0 failed: mysqladmin -u root password randompassword returned 1 instead of one of [0] at /etc/puppet/modules/mysql/manifests/config.pp:25 | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:56:31] <dwalu> access denied on making the change | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:56:50] <dwalu> (fresh install, I ran aptitude purge mysql-server between each puppet apply to try and test idempotently) | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:57:34] <tremble> Swat-: Look at using defines, you can then use your array to instantiate defined objects, same way you can instantiate any type using an array. package { [foo, bar] : ensure => installed } | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:58:08] <ccaum> dwalu: On debian I've always had to blow away the /var/lib/mysql directory even after a purge. Otherwise when the mysql-server package is reinstalled it just uses the mysql database that was there previously, which should have had a password | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:58:09] <kenperkins> for all ya'll using graphite, how do you get data to it | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:58:19] <ccaum> dwalu: Maybe give that a try? | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:58:28] <dwalu> ccaum: ugh I forgot about that. why is it that debian hates the idea of actually uninstalling crap when you tell it to? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:58:41] <dwalu> ill try that, thanks! | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:58:52] <Swat-> tremble: i sorta tried it with a define and that works but now i have to define my variables twice. | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:58:53] <ccaum> dwalu: I don't know. If I say purge, then purge. It's frustrating | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:58:59] <dwalu> agreed! | ||
| [2012/01/10 17:59:17] <dwalu> Jan 10 22:59:09 prod-bpdb1 mysqld_safe[30453]: ERROR: 1064 You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'ALTER TABLE user ADD column Show_view_priv enum('N','Y') CHARACTER SET utf8 NOT ' at line 1 | ||
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| [2012/01/10 17:59:41] <Swat-> tremble: i am trying to push filesnames and put all files in 1 filename, and with the define i am putting all the data in those files | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:00:17] <ccaum> dwalu: Ugh. So I have a new version of the mysql module that's pending review. Would you want to try it out? It might solve your problem | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:00:31] <dwalu> I'd love to | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:00:36] <pdtpatrick_> how do i make a service subscribe to two files? subscribe=> File['pg_hba.conf'], | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:00:46] <ccaum> dwalu: https://github.com/ccaum/puppetlabs-mysql/tree/feature/master/use_mysql_gem_for_provider | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:00:52] <Swat-> tremble: is there perhaps a way when i go into the define loop to build an array there for later use (like $var += 'myval') | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:01:19] <rodjek> pdtpatrick_: you can pass an array to subscribe | ||
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| [2012/01/10 18:01:35] <tremble|zzz> Swat-: Sorry, it's late over here and I'm too knackered to try to figure out quite what you're trying to do. I just wanted to give you a vague pointer since no-one else replied | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:01:43] <dwalu> ccaum: thanks! I'll try cloning that and see if it helps | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:01:48] <pdtpatrick_> rodjek: any example please or send a wiki link? | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:01:49] <ccaum> dwalu: I have to run for a sec. Try it out and let me know | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:01:49] <gnat42> can I do "package-*": ensure => latest; ? | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:01:51] <ccaum> dwalu: Thanks | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:02:01] <gnat42> or do I have to list all packages and the subpackages? | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:02:06] <Swat-> tremble|zzz: ok thanks for the help! | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:02:28] <rodjek> pdtpatrick_: subscribe => [File['foo'], Package['bar'], etc | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:02:38] <pdtpatrick_> ahh thanks | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:02:54] <rodjek> needs a closing ] but you get the idea | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:03:14] <tremble|zzz> Swat-: generally if you're trying to iterate and build up a list, you're probably trying to do it the wrong way. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 18:03:33] <pdtpatrick_> rodjek: and if I'm using just files? can i do something like File['foo', 'bar'] ? | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:04:44] <rodjek> pdtpatrick_: yep | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:05:05] <rodjek> i'd suggest having a read through http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/language_guide.html | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:05:14] <rodjek> it explains all this sort of stuff | ||
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| [2012/01/10 18:05:35] <Swat-> tremble|zzz: ok i will try to approach it from a different angle ;) | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:05:43] <pdtpatrick_> rodjek: thanks | ||
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| [2012/01/10 18:12:51] <dwalu> ccaum: still the same problem :/ | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:12:59] <dwalu> fucking debian | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:13:06] <ccaum> dwalu: Same sql error? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 18:13:34] <dwalu> yeah that too. right now I'm struggling to make absolutely sure there's nothing debian related. deleting packages is harder than getting my developers to close their tickets | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:13:53] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Road_map (#9) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Road_map?version=9 (by Nigel Kersten) | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:14:12] <ccaum> dwalu: Oh, you have to purge ALL mysql packages. apt-get remove --purge mysql*. THEN rm -rf /var/lib/mysql | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:14:16] <dwalu> are you actually sending sql to mysql, or are you just using the mysqladmin password command in an exec? | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:14:52] <ccaum> dwalu: I'm sending sql with the ruby mysql gem. My new module doesn't use any msyql system commands | ||
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| [2012/01/10 18:15:35] <dwalu> apparently you also have to do more than that :/ | ||
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| [2012/01/10 18:16:29] <ccaum> dwalu: Damn. What does you mysql::server declaration look like? | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:16:37] <dwalu> debian still leaves a debian.cnf in /etc/mysql after that. if you delete that then debian pukes the next time you try to install. | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:17:07] <dwalu> http://pastebin.com/DqAxZyAM | ||
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| [2012/01/10 18:17:25] <dwalu> crap, there goes that password | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:17:35] <ccaum> dwalu: ;) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 18:18:21] <dwalu> pretty simple declaration | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:18:21] <ccaum> dwalu: The declaration looks fine. I guess try purging all mysql packages. rm -rf /etc/mysql /root/.my.cnf /var/lib/mysql | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:18:31] <ccaum> dwalu: I can't think of anything else | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:18:51] <ccaum> dwalu: If that doesn't work I'll install Debian 6 and see if I can reproduce. I'll have you open a ticket | ||
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| [2012/01/10 18:21:40] <dwalu> I'm going to try on a fresh server to make sure | ||
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| [2012/01/10 18:21:52] * dwalu stabs debian with a spork | ||
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| [2012/01/10 18:22:58] <dwalu> oh hmm. does that config actually set a root password in mysql, or does it just put it into my.cnf? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 18:27:14] <dwalu> ccaum: another interesting bit is if I delete everything, then run that without a root password, mysql_safe warns me that there are now 3 root accounts without a root password | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:27:25] <dwalu> err debian-start does | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:27:27] <dwalu> Jan 10 23:26:42 prod-bpdb1 /etc/mysql/debian-start[3515]: WARNING: mysql.user contains 3 root accounts without password! | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:28:19] <ccaum> dwalu: Hmm, I might have a bug then. The manifest does actually set the root password, or is supposed ot | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:28:31] <ccaum> dwalu: Does the /var/lib/mysql/mysql_set_pass script exist? | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:28:46] <dwalu> negative | ||
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| [2012/01/10 18:30:18] <ccaum> That is definitely supposed to exist. Does the config.pp file in manifests/ declare the '/var/lib/mysql/mysql_set_pass' file resource? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 18:32:18] <daff> so I've installed rodjek's vim-puppet, but it doesn't seem like automatic alignment on => works, even though I have the tabular plugin installed. any ideas? :) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 18:33:01] <rodjek> daff: interesting... | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:33:19] <rodjek> what version of vim? | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:33:34] <daff> ah, the man himself :) vim 7.2 | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:33:43] <daff> too old? | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:34:01] <rodjek> not sure, i've only ever tried it on 7.3 | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:34:01] <Diranged> ok… im crazy. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 18:34:16] <Diranged> i have a single definition (apache::site { 'filenamegoeshere': content => template('sourcecontentgoeshere') }... | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:34:18] <daff> I'll see if I can get a newer version | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:34:22] <Diranged> i am using it twice.. and it was working | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:34:28] <Diranged> but now, it wont replace the content of one of my two files | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:34:40] <Diranged> but there are no errors to explain why | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:35:10] <rodjek> daff: yeah, i'd recommend upgrading, 7.2 is pretty old | ||
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| [2012/01/10 18:41:30] <dwalu> ccaum: no | ||
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| [2012/01/10 18:42:22] <dwalu> which is weird because it is set in https://github.com/ccaum/puppetlabs-mysql/blob/feature/master/use_mysql_gem_for_provider/manifests/config.pp | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:42:49] <ccaum> dwalu: Ah, so you don't have the module I'm working on. Did you do a clone? | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:42:50] <daff> rodjek: I now have vim 7.3.154 installed, but => alignment doesn't seem to work yet. do I have to enable something specific? | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:43:07] <ccaum> dwalu: Try just downloading the zip: https://github.com/ccaum/puppetlabs-mysql/zipball/feature/master/use_mysql_gem_for_provider | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:43:14] <dwalu> hrm I did, but I cloned https://github.com/ccaum/puppetlabs-mysql.git | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:43:26] <dwalu> will try that, thx | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:43:34] <ccaum> dwalu: yeah, but you didn't pull my branch. You were running off master which is old | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:43:44] <dwalu> oh :) sorry, a bit new to git | ||
| [2012/01/10 18:43:53] <ccaum> dwalu: No worries | ||
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| [2012/01/10 19:01:06] <dwalu> ccaum: /var/lib/mysql/mysql_set_pass exists now, but I still get the SQL error | ||
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| [2012/01/10 19:03:20] <dwalu> ccaum: the password I intended to set gets set, but so do one or two accounts with blank passwords | ||
| [2012/01/10 19:04:08] <ccaum> dwalu: Huh, that's not supposed to happen. Thanks. I'll dig in to that. Other than that, it works though, yes? | ||
| [2012/01/10 19:04:44] <dwalu> ccaum: thanks. the irony is my smoke test of "can I login with this password" works. I think I need a new test "I should not be able to login without a password" | ||
| [2012/01/10 19:05:43] <ccaum> dwalu: Just remember the password is set in /root/.my.cnf so the mysql command will use the credential there that if it's available | ||
| [2012/01/10 19:06:22] <dwalu> oh . damn. you told me twice and I ignored it both times. you're right. I suck. thanks. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 19:18:32] <justintime> ccaum: you have some time? I ran into an error with your mysql gem branch this morning, and now have some time to work on it | ||
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| [2012/01/10 19:18:54] <ccaum> justintime: I'm a bit slammed right now. Can you throw it in an emal? | ||
| [2012/01/10 19:19:19] <justintime> sure, where to? | ||
| [2012/01/10 19:19:34] <ccaum> justintime carl@puppetlabs.com | ||
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| [2012/01/10 19:21:45] <ccaum> justintime: Thanks | ||
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| [2012/01/10 19:24:55] <aalmenar> hello | ||
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| [2012/01/10 19:30:38] <blinki> hi, relative neophyte to puppet; trying to configure a puppetmaster on debian 6.0.3 using puppet 2.6.2 from apt; I get the following when I try to test the config: can't convert String into Integer at /etc/puppet/modules/common/manifests/init.pp:19 on node xyz. Is this a result of the version I'm using or just an upstream bug with their modules? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 19:33:32] <the_ramink> blinki: I'd suspect the code is trying to use a fact, which are always strings, as an interger. pastir.org up the code so we can see it. | ||
| [2012/01/10 19:34:37] <torrancew> pastie.org ^^^ ;) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 19:41:23] <eric0> is there a way to make 'automatic' environments, through variable interpolation in the server's puppet.conf ? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 19:46:06] <torrancew> eric0: yes! (I've read, at least) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 19:46:31] <torrancew> eric0: http://puppetlabs.com/blog/git-workflow-and-puppet-environments/ and http://hunnur.com/blog/2010/10/dynamic-git-branch-puppet-environments/ | ||
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| [2012/01/10 19:50:18] <eric0> freaking awesome! | ||
| [2012/01/10 19:50:28] <wildint> trying to learn puppet on my own ubuntu vm, how do I execute puppet commands with sudo priveleges? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 19:52:18] <Callek> sudo puppet .... | ||
| [2012/01/10 19:52:38] <Callek> i think anyway | ||
| [2012/01/10 19:52:51] <wildint> Callek, that throws an error - | ||
| [2012/01/10 19:52:52] * Callek is not a ubuntu person, and not yet GREAT at puppet commands | ||
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| [2012/01/10 19:52:57] <torrancew> wildint: of what type? | ||
| [2012/01/10 19:53:33] <wildint> Could not run command from prerun_command | ||
| [2012/01/10 19:54:00] <wildint> Execution of /etc/puppet/etckeeper-commit-pre returned 1 | ||
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| [2012/01/10 19:55:18] <wildint> does my user need to belong to the puppet group? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 19:55:52] * wildint try's to figure out how pupper aquires permisions to do root like things | ||
| [2012/01/10 19:56:37] <torrancew> wildint: puppet doesn't acquire permissions. When you run it with sudo, sudo acquired root for you. | ||
| [2012/01/10 19:57:00] <torrancew> That error is due to some external script that is being called, but I do not know why it is being run by puppet automatically for you | ||
| [2012/01/10 19:57:25] <wildint> sure but if I was running the server client model how would the server trigger say user creation (which is what I'm trying to do) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 19:58:06] <wildint> almost everything I need puppet to do would normally take sudo | ||
| [2012/01/10 19:58:39] <wildint> torrancew, thanks for the hint - I'm trying to do user creation | ||
| [2012/01/10 19:58:44] <torrancew> In the server client model, the server can ideally be run as any user | ||
| [2012/01/10 19:58:53] <torrancew> and the client will run as root, so that the it can do what it needs | ||
| [2012/01/10 19:59:25] <torrancew> the server is basically a specialized web server with a built in CA (though that's a *very* high level description of it) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 20:04:57] <wildint> anyone have a reference to simple user create file that works with puppet apply? | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:05:14] <wildint> no server | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:05:40] <Callek> wildint: just use the user resource? | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:05:45] <Callek> (and group resource if necessary) | ||
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| [2012/01/10 20:06:07] <Callek> o need to run the useradd type commands yourself! | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:06:19] <Callek> s/o /no / | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:06:30] <wildint> yes I have a users.pp with user{} sections | ||
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| [2012/01/10 20:07:25] <Callek> wildint: if you want an example of a simple format that works with puppet apply: http://hg.mozilla.org/build/puppet/file/f856bb491989/modules/users/manifests/builder.pp | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:08:03] <wildint> is puppet picky about single v double quotes? | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:10:10] <eric0> should have figured that Hunner would have hit upon this. so slick | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:10:37] <eric0> wildint: like shell, ruby etc, it won't do variable interpolation in singlequotes | ||
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| [2012/01/10 20:12:20] <wildint> this is the test I'm trying to run http://pastebin.com/JUscGfdY | ||
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| [2012/01/10 20:16:16] <moodywoody> I noticed files that are only audited are not being backed up to the filebucket. Is there a way to change that? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 20:31:47] <rjsalts> I think I have some problems with scope that I'm wondering if I could get some advice on. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 20:33:53] <rjsalts> I have a node "groupofhosts" with some variables defined in it. Then node "hostname" inherits groupofhosts { include atypeofhost } | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:34:40] <rjsalts> in the definition of atypeofhost I have a file that I want copied from puppet based on a variable in groupofhosts | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:34:43] <rjsalts> Can I do that? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 20:39:30] <rjsalts> something like http://pastebin.com/qfqrk3P2 | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:39:53] <nlew> rjsalts: That should work, but will give you dynamic scope warnings if it does. | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:40:12] <nlew> I think the correct solution would be to make atypeofhost a parameterized class | ||
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| [2012/01/10 20:44:32] <rjsalts> oh, hang on one more wrinkle | ||
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| [2012/01/10 20:45:46] <themadcanudist> hey guys, is there a way to count number of elements in a array in a puppet DSL? (not ruby DSL) | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:47:19] <nlew> themadcanudist: There's a "size" function in the stdlib module | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:48:09] <themadcanudist> hey nlew, thanks… it's not in the function reference though | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:48:32] <themadcanudist> wait, not ruby dsl… how would you use size() within a puppet dsl manifest (.pp) | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:48:33] <themadcanudist> ? | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:48:38] <nlew> ah, no I mean http://forge.puppetlabs.com/puppetlabs/stdlib | ||
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| [2012/01/10 20:52:59] <themadcanudist> very interesting! thank you | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:53:03] <themadcanudist> second part of the question | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:53:27] <themadcanudist> when "collecting resources", is there a structure that contains some information about the resources that I can manipulate? | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:53:41] <themadcanudist> ie. like get a list of the names of the resources I've collected via storedconfigs | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:53:52] <themadcanudist> list/array… instaed of just realizing them | ||
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| [2012/01/10 20:54:39] <nlew> unfortunately not yet | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:54:42] <nlew> what are you trying to do? | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:55:19] <themadcanudist> translate some info i get from collecting resources in to a command.. | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:55:44] <themadcanudist> ie. i'd like to know the facter variables of $ipaddress_ethX from all the exported resources.. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 20:56:22] <themadcanudist> dang.. i can think of a way to get around it, but that would be super-convenient | ||
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| [2012/01/10 20:57:34] <themadcanudist> i need to construct a command on the host that collects the resources that uses the addresses of all the clients that have exported their resource.. | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:57:54] <themadcanudist> i can do it by explicitly defining these ips in a dict/variable | ||
| [2012/01/10 20:58:11] <themadcanudist> however, not having to do that is one extra awesome layer of automation. | ||
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| [2012/01/10 21:08:18] <themadcanudist> nlew: any reflections on that? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 21:10:50] <themadcanudist> nlew: what about in the ruby dsl… is there a way to get an object or something of the collected resources, so I can yank some strings from them? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 21:26:25] <themadcanudist> anyone here know who i can talk to about collecting resources in the ruby dsl | ||
| [2012/01/10 21:26:50] <themadcanudist> i have the docs up, but I am wondering if I can introspect the collected resources and rip strings from them? | ||
| [2012/01/10 21:26:56] <themadcanudist> or do i ony have an interface to realize them? | ||
| [2012/01/10 21:27:21] <themadcanudist> I imagine I should be able to introspect them | ||
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| [2012/01/10 23:03:18] <antarus> hrm | ||
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| [2012/01/10 23:06:12] <antarus> is there a way in the DSL to get the value of a fact, if the factname is in a variable? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 23:07:34] <antarus> in a template I'd use scope.lookupvar | ||
| [2012/01/10 23:07:51] <antarus> but I don't see taht as an option in the DSL | ||
| [2012/01/10 23:09:04] <wildintellect> for those here earlier - my problem with the ubuntu puppet giving a etckeeper returned 1 error is solved, turns out to be a couple of extra lines in puppet config that are optional if using etckeeper https://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/browse_thread/thread/12dba6c9a318fe83/ebb54bd23ebab4e7?#ebb54bd23ebab4e7 | ||
| [2012/01/10 23:10:28] <jroid> anyone know why an email link in a spannabletext in an alertdialog would not be clickable? | ||
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| [2012/01/10 23:10:41] <jroid> wrong channel., sorr | ||
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