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| [2012/01/14 00:16:00] <chapinj> since node definitions support regex, can you have multiple node definitions apply to a single node? | ||
| [2012/01/14 00:16:49] <chapinj> for instance, I want to apply something to all tst*.foo.bar.com servers, and something else to all *cgi.foo.bar.com servers -- and there is an overlap, will that work? | ||
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| [2012/01/14 00:37:15] <eric0> nope | ||
| [2012/01/14 00:37:25] <eric0> says as much in the language guide | ||
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| [2012/01/14 01:12:23] <chapinj> damn, thanks though. Reading more of the documentation is on the schedule for this weekend | ||
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| [2012/01/14 01:19:08] <whack> oh snap, triage-a-thon | ||
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| [2012/01/14 02:48:49] <michaeltwofish> I'm new to puppet, trying to set up a VM in standalone mode. In /etc/puppet/puppet.conf [master] section I set modulepath=/etc/puppet/modules but it seems to be ignored. Should this work? | ||
| [2012/01/14 02:49:22] <michaeltwofish> puppet apply --configprint modulepath returns /home/michael/.puppet/modules:/usr/share/puppet/modules | ||
| [2012/01/14 02:51:16] <michaeltwofish> ah, nevermind, it seems it was a permissions problem. | ||
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| [2012/01/14 05:17:28] <matzie> Hi - I'm quite early in the puppet learning curve, most of my manifests are just file deploys so far.; I have a module that copies a file to /etc/init.d but I want to call update-rc.d (I'm on debian) so that it gets run on boot; I thought a service with enable=>true would do it, but it isn't - any pointers please? | ||
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| [2012/01/14 05:24:57] <ssm> enable => true _should_ do what you need. What happens if you run "puppet resource -d service yourservice enable=true" | ||
| [2012/01/14 05:25:13] <ssm> (that would provide some debug output, for that service) | ||
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| [2012/01/14 05:39:12] <matzie> thanks; I've just broken my puppet install utterly but will try that when I'm back up :-) | ||
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| [2012/01/14 09:54:43] <f0> hi | ||
| [2012/01/14 09:55:48] <f0> i use exported resources (the host resource) and the Host <<||>> to collet them, i use this to automatically update my dns server (dnsmasq) | ||
| [2012/01/14 09:56:20] <f0> so how can i notify the service dnsmasq if a new host is in the hosts file? | ||
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| [2012/01/14 09:58:22] <Dominic> f0: you should be able to chain resources, e.g. Host <<||>> ~> Service["dnsmasq"] | ||
| [2012/01/14 09:58:32] <Dominic> f0: the ~> is a subscription, rather than -> which is a requirement | ||
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| [2012/01/14 10:00:07] <Dominic> f0: or maybe Host<||>, not sure what the syntax when it's an exported resource would be | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:00:28] <Dominic> ah yes, the docs use Host<| |> syntax | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:00:44] <daff> I have here a node that keeps enabling a service on every run, even though it already is properly enabled. I.e. I keep seeing "notice: /Stage[main]/Postfix::Service/Service[postfix]/enable: enable changed 'false' to 'true'" on every run | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:01:05] <daff> this on Ubuntu 10.04, the provider is update-rc.d | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:01:08] <daff> any ideas? | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:01:32] <f0> Dominic: thx i try this | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:01:43] <Dominic> daff: it could be a bug in your version of Puppet, you can at least see which command it's running to determine the current state with --debug | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:02:39] <Dominic> daff: depending on the verison of Puppet, you might be using the debian or upstart provider | ||
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| [2012/01/14 10:03:46] <daff> Dominic: see the relevant debug lines here: http://pastie.org/3184280 | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:04:03] <daff> using puppet 2.7.9 (latest from apt.puppetlabs) | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:04:26] <daff> but the problem appears only on a single node. all other nodes, with identical puppet and OS versions seems unaffected | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:04:45] <daff> the debian provider is the correct one in this case (postfix) | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:06:16] <Dominic> daff: do you see any output relating to invoke-rc.d in the debug? The code looks like it should use it to determine whether it's enabled or not. | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:06:35] <daff> I'll check | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:06:50] <Dominic> daff: it looks at the return code of "/usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d --quiet --query postfix start" | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:07:54] <Dominic> daff: https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet/blob/2.7.x/lib/puppet/provider/service/debian.rb#L35 | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:08:14] <f0> Dominic: to chain the resources works, thx for the hint | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:08:23] <Dominic> f0: good, np | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:08:33] <daff> Dominic: I don't see any mention of invoke-rc.d in the debug logs | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:09:23] <Dominic> daff: ah, the code's using the system() call rather than the command so that's probably why. I'd try running the command yourself, checking the return code ($?). | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:10:14] <daff> ok, checking | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:11:21] <daff> hm, on that faulty node /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d --quiet --query postfix start returns 105 | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:11:27] <daff> on another, working node, it is 104 | ||
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| [2012/01/14 10:12:21] <daff> that is very strange | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:12:23] <Dominic> hm, that's probably worth looking into if it's the same version of postfix + Ubuntu. Otherwise the puppet provider's check looks a bit crude, it sees if the service is enabled in at least 4 runlevels... | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:13:43] <daff> I'll be damned, the postfix versions are different | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:13:48] <daff> on those two nodes | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:13:55] <daff> how the hell that happened, I have no idea | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:14:01] <daff> thanks for the pointer, Dominic | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:14:17] <Dominic> ah :) | ||
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| [2012/01/14 10:21:10] <countskm> is there a way to do specify that one host must be created first before another? or is this something for the orchestrator | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:22:12] <countskm> i guess almost viewing a host as a resource that can be required | ||
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| [2012/01/14 10:24:09] <DigitalFlux> Hi Guys | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:24:19] <DigitalFlux> Anybody faced problems with the pip provider recently ? | ||
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| [2012/01/14 10:24:37] <DigitalFlux> I am having an error here: https://gist.github.com/1227739 | ||
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| [2012/01/14 10:29:57] <Dominic> DigitalFlux: you would probably get that if pip's not installed or in PATH | ||
| [2012/01/14 10:31:28] <DigitalFlux> Dominic: Hmm, checking | ||
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| [2012/01/14 10:33:11] <DigitalFlux> Dominic: yup, python-pip was not installed, Thanks :) | ||
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| [2012/01/14 11:02:02] <freezey> any easy ways to pull all variables from facter for use in a template? | ||
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| [2012/01/14 11:02:16] <freezey> besides doing the <% whichever %> for each variable | ||
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| [2012/01/14 11:04:42] <Dominic> freezey: look at this, it gives an example near the bottom about looping over all variables in the scope. You could then pass each variable name into scope.lookupvar or something to get the value. http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/templating.html | ||
| [2012/01/14 11:05:24] <Dominic> freezey: or even just iterating over that hash actually | ||
| [2012/01/14 11:06:05] <freezey> ahh vn | ||
| [2012/01/14 11:06:07] <freezey> thanks | ||
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| [2012/01/14 12:30:14] <hacim> is there a way to specify a file resource that only fires if the file exists in the source? | ||
| [2012/01/14 12:30:19] <hacim> otherwise just doesn't? | ||
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| [2012/01/14 12:33:26] <Dominic> there is a file() master-side function, you might be able to create a conditional with it | ||
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| [2012/01/14 13:14:55] <karthick87> How to apply a module from puppetmaster to hosts ? | ||
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| [2012/01/14 13:16:07] <kwame> karthick87: add it to your modules sections and add it to your nodes | ||
| [2012/01/14 13:16:56] <karthick87> kwame: How? | ||
| [2012/01/14 13:17:17] <kwame> karthick87: have you read the documentation? | ||
| [2012/01/14 13:17:27] <karthick87> kwame: Yes | ||
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| [2012/01/14 13:17:56] <kwame> karthick87: ok, so in your config, what part is not working? | ||
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| [2012/01/14 13:18:44] <kwame> karthick87: if you follow this, you should have your module sent to your hosts in no time http://www.ctrip.ufl.edu/puppet-module-debian-lenny | ||
| [2012/01/14 13:19:02] <karthick87> Let me try | ||
| [2012/01/14 13:19:02] <kwame> karthick87: but, if you expect for somebody to write the puppet code you need, forget it | ||
| [2012/01/14 13:20:48] <karthick87> Fine. I just need to apply a module to all hosts | ||
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| [2012/01/14 14:03:49] <tmclaugh> Anyone have a puppet module or resource for doing something like a Windows nested group on *nix? | ||
| [2012/01/14 14:04:26] <tmclaugh> I'm just thinking of something where I give it an LDAP group and it automatically manages adding and removing members from a given local group. | ||
| [2012/01/14 14:04:32] <dpittman> tmclaugh: Not that I know of, and not really the strongest point of the system; it would need a custom provider and type to make it work on the client side. | ||
| [2012/01/14 14:04:47] <dpittman> tmclaugh: You would be better off investing in using LDAP NSS, and turning on the nested groups feature of that. | ||
| [2012/01/14 14:04:52] <tmclaugh> preferably an array of LDAP groups actually | ||
| [2012/01/14 14:05:09] <dpittman> tmclaugh: ...and automate replication of the LDAP data to the local machine, if you want a local copy, which Puppet is good at. :) | ||
| [2012/01/14 14:06:04] <tmclaugh> dpittman: for a variety of reasons of how things at work function, our builds use local users and admins groups on the host. | ||
| [2012/01/14 14:06:21] <tmclaugh> And that works for many of the groups whom we support. | ||
| [2012/01/14 14:06:55] <tmclaugh> But larger departments, some having stricter requirements for access than others, sometimes have their own AD groups setup. | ||
| [2012/01/14 14:07:18] <tmclaugh> So I'm trying to keep that users/admins usage but shoehorn these larger groups in. | ||
| [2012/01/14 14:07:30] <dpittman> tmclaugh: *nod* I assume you can't use winbind NSS either, right? | ||
| [2012/01/14 14:07:59] <tmclaugh> winbind is sh!t and no. We need UID/GID info same across all hosts. | ||
| [2012/01/14 14:08:39] <tmclaugh> the 'users' and 'admins' group has to be a local group. | ||
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| [2012/01/14 14:09:15] <tmclaugh> The point is to bypass our network services group where possible when creating a new host for a department. | ||
| [2012/01/14 14:09:22] <dpittman> tmclaugh: fair enough. Anyway, I am not aware of anything that does what you want, and would probably look to having some sort of sync script that extracted the data and updated a manifest on the master. | ||
| [2012/01/14 14:09:43] <dpittman> tmclaugh: It could read out the group, then write a manifest that started by eliminating everything from the group that wasn't managed, then list all the members. | ||
| [2012/01/14 14:09:48] <dpittman> tmclaugh: Then you at least centralize the problem. | ||
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| [2012/01/14 14:10:09] <tmclaugh> Yeah. I hve a sync script right now but I'm trying to figure out how to kill it. :-/ | ||
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| [2012/01/14 14:10:30] <tmclaugh> And a custom provider brings me back to the same problem as before. It'll only run once an hour. | ||
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| [2012/01/14 17:01:54] <torrancew> nlew: ping | ||
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| [2012/01/14 17:07:39] <tty00> hi again, is it possible to use an template outside an module in puppet? | ||
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| [2012/01/14 17:09:46] <tty00> i would like to seperate some template files from the modules, for example /private/%D and/or /private/&H | ||
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| [2012/01/14 17:50:48] <rtyler> just installed 2.7.9 on an Ubuntu LTS machine: https://gist.github.com/1613194 | ||
| [2012/01/14 17:50:57] <rtyler> not seen this issue with facter before :/ | ||
| [2012/01/14 17:53:41] <rtyler> ah, found a SO thread about it | ||
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| [2012/01/14 17:58:59] <Harzilein> war das erst squeeze mit /etc/default/keyboard ? | ||
| [2012/01/14 17:59:03] <Harzilein> ewin | ||
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| [2012/01/14 19:08:35] <rebelladolce> hello | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:08:38] <rebelladolce> all is ok? | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:10:00] <misc> well, yes | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:10:10] <rebelladolce> wonderfull | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:10:12] <rebelladolce> :P | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:10:24] <rebelladolce> asl? | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:10:25] <rebelladolce> pls | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:11:33] <GoodKarma> 4000, mummy, egypt | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:11:47] <rebelladolce> 4000?? | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:11:49] <rebelladolce> :)) | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:12:39] <antarus> 1994 called | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:15:16] <rebelladolce> hmm | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:15:42] <rebelladolce> 22 f usa | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:15:43] <rebelladolce> here | ||
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| [2012/01/14 19:17:52] <rebelladolce> hello | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:17:57] <rebelladolce> wekup | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:17:57] <rebelladolce> :P | ||
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| [2012/01/14 19:19:02] <Volcane> rebelladolce: this is not a general chat channel, you'll have more fun elsewhere. | ||
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| [2012/01/14 19:23:11] <rebelladolce> pgffffffff | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:24:00] <|Mike|> rebelladolce: Please shut up. | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:24:09] <rebelladolce> hm:(( | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:24:11] <rebelladolce> why? | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:24:24] <|Mike|> Anoying. | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:24:36] <rebelladolce> i disturbe you? | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:24:42] <rebelladolce> u cant sllep? | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:24:44] <rebelladolce> :P | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:24:50] <|Mike|> Say what? | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:25:07] <rebelladolce> were u from? | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:25:20] <|Mike|> /join #2,000 | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:25:21] <gepetto> |Mike|: #2 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/2 "Puppet - Feature #2: Add 'link' ability to File. It has a status of Closed and is assigned to Luke Kanies" | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:25:27] @ Mode +b *!*rebellado@85.186.131.* by Volcane | ||
| [2012/01/14 19:27:11] <|Mike|> ty | ||
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| [2012/01/14 20:19:57] <pdtpatrick__> Question - I keep getting the following errors | ||
| [2012/01/14 20:19:58] <pdtpatrick__> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/534960/ | ||
| [2012/01/14 20:20:05] <pdtpatrick__> with exec | ||
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| [2012/01/14 20:24:15] <haus> pdtpatrick__: looks like you're trying to install a package without a name | ||
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| [2012/01/14 20:25:37] <henk> pdtpatrick__: Why do you think is Stage[main]/Ssh::Install/Package[undef]/ensure defined in class apt::update? o_O | ||
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| [2012/01/14 20:27:40] <haus> yea, what henk said...it looks like your problem is in your Ssh::Install class | ||
| [2012/01/14 20:28:59] <pdtpatrick__> here's the install | ||
| [2012/01/14 20:28:59] <pdtpatrick__> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/534961/ | ||
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| [2012/01/14 20:29:50] <haus> pdtpatrick__: that's the apt::install class. Your error indicates that Ssh and/or Ssh::install are the problems | ||
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| [2012/01/14 20:55:02] <pdtpatrick__> haus: seems like it is complaining about | ||
| [2012/01/14 20:55:13] <pdtpatrick__> …. /usr/bin/apt-get -q -y -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confold install undef' returned 100: | ||
| [2012/01/14 20:55:35] <pdtpatrick__> oh | ||
| [2012/01/14 20:55:38] <pdtpatrick__> ur right | ||
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| [2012/01/14 20:56:55] <pdtpatrick__> here's my ssh::install | ||
| [2012/01/14 20:56:55] <pdtpatrick__> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/534968/ | ||
| [2012/01/14 20:57:20] <pdtpatrick__> I don't think it likes $ssh::params::ssh_package_name | ||
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| [2012/01/14 21:11:29] <pdtpatrick__> Well i've learned my lesson | ||
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| [2012/01/14 21:36:51] <dissipate> i'm using the recipe for MySQL server here: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/1/wiki/My_Sql_Server_Patterns but when the catalog runs it says it can't find the package 'MySQL-*' | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:37:09] <dissipate> i'm running on ubuntu 11.10. any idea what's going on? | ||
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| [2012/01/14 21:39:05] <cornet> need to be all lower case if ubuntu i think | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:39:48] <cornet> and remove the mysql shared line, it's not required | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:40:41] <dissipate> cornet, i thought puppet supported 23 different package managers | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:41:00] <cornet> it supports a lot of package managers yes | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:41:07] <cornet> but the package name needs to be correct | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:41:16] <dissipate> so where is the time savings if you have to change the package names?? | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:41:56] <antarus> The time savings is not having to write your own logic for each PM... | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:41:57] <cornet> if the packages differ on different distributions then you would have to accomodate for that in your modules | ||
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| [2012/01/14 21:43:18] <dissipate> wowzers bowzers, that's not good. :( | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:44:26] <Harzilein> dissipate: if you want to avoid that, your manifest maybe can use a third party module | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:44:47] <Harzilein> dissipate: they usually already contain the lists of packages for a certain service | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:45:00] <dissipate> Harzilein, do most people just use facter to differentiate the package names? | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:45:24] <cornet> yup, if they are maintaining multiple distributions | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:45:25] * antarus notes knowing the package names across all distros is a hard problem | ||
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| [2012/01/14 21:45:35] <cornet> yer | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:45:51] <dissipate> Harzilein, i see. that sounds like a good solution. | ||
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| [2012/01/14 21:48:03] <kaushal> H | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:48:07] <kaushal> Hi* | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:48:40] <kaushal> Are there study books or tutorials or irc channels or mailing list available for devops ? | ||
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| [2012/01/14 21:49:39] <Harzilein> dissipate: a good example i use myself is https://github.com/blt04/puppet-rvm/blob/6d4d852dbf31ae78bf7cdf030a126a9e532e2ccc/manifests/classes/dependencies.pp | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:49:44] <dissipate> kaushal, check out 'Pro Puppet' | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:49:52] <gnat42> Are the certificates created by puppet useable as client SSL certs for lets say other random HTTPS requests? | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:50:11] <kaushal> dissipate: 'Pro Puppet' ? | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:50:18] <kaushal> not sure i understand that | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:50:24] <antarus> kaushal: its a book | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:50:26] <cornet> it's a book | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:50:29] <cornet> google it :) | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:50:30] <kaushal> oh ok | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:50:37] <Harzilein> i guess 'pro puppet' is a compagnon to 'pro git' ;) | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:50:39] <dissipate> kaushal, http://www.apress.com/9781430230571 | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:50:53] <kaushal> dissipate: Thanks | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:50:53] <antarus> devops..I will never forgive the person who coined that term ;) | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:50:57] <cornet> also devops is not a job role, or thing. it's a culture or way of thinking | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:51:06] <dissipate> Hamzah, in the same series of books but nothing to do with each other AFAIK | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:51:31] <kaushal> also any mailing list ? | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:51:35] <dissipate> cornet, i just got my dev ops certificates | ||
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| [2012/01/14 21:51:42] <Harzilein> dissipate: that's what i meant. do you know if there is a free version as with pro git? | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:51:49] <cornet> dissipate: :) | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:52:20] <dissipate> Harzilein, i do not believe pro puppet is free | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:52:28] <kaushal> dissipate: is it a tool ? | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:52:38] <dissipate> kaushal, is what a tool? | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:52:41] <cornet> kaushal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx8OBeNmaWw # i suggest you watch this | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:52:45] <kaushal> ok | ||
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| [2012/01/14 21:54:17] <kaushal> dissipate: as per http://www.apress.com/9781430230571 | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:54:25] <dissipate> Harzilein, thanks for the blob. that makes sense. looks like things can get kind of verbose though. | ||
| [2012/01/14 21:54:52] <dissipate> kaushal, puppet is the tool. 'pro puppet' is a book about puppet. | ||
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| [2012/01/14 22:00:39] <Harzilein> dissipate: you mean from looking at the list of packages? i guess it can't get more terse. it would certainly nice if distributions could come up with common agreeing task-/metapackages for services | ||
| [2012/01/14 22:00:48] <Harzilein> +be | ||
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| [2012/01/14 23:12:39] <haus> pdtpatrick__: what is $ssh::params::ssh_package_name supposed to be? and can you post your ssh::params class? | ||
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| [2012/01/14 23:19:27] <pdtpatrick__> yeah looks like it is not expanding variables in params.pp .. here's my params.pp .. | ||
| [2012/01/14 23:19:27] <pdtpatrick__> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/534986/ | ||
| [2012/01/14 23:24:57] <pdtpatrick__> I'm guessing i might have to use include ssh:params instead | ||
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| [2012/01/14 23:36:47] <haus> yea, if you don't include it, ssh::install has no knowledge of ssh::params | ||
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