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| [2012/01/18 00:42:44] <pdtpatrick_> if you are making a directory - since, puppet uses user "puppet" - the directory needs to be owned by puppet or group puppet for it to traverse it otherwise the directory would need to be 775 right ??? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 00:46:27] <tmz> pdtpatrick_: On the master, yes, the user that puppetmasterd runs as needs to be able to access files and directories you are having it serve. The agent runs as root, so it can apply whatever ownership and modes you require on agents/clients. | ||
| [2012/01/18 00:46:58] <pdtpatrick_> tmz -- thanks :) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 02:16:39] <rbowlby> module devel question: I see a lot of modules where an optional package is another class, example apache::ssl which would install apache and mod_ssl if declared. With parametrized classes is it now better to make this a parameter? class { 'apache': ssl_package => true } | ||
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| [2012/01/18 02:47:33] <mukulm> Hi, | ||
| [2012/01/18 02:47:45] <rbowlby> Hi all, quick question. | ||
| [2012/01/18 02:47:46] <rbowlby> module devel question: I see a lot of modules where an optional package is another class, example apache::ssl which would install apache and mod_ssl if declared. With parametrized classes is it now better to make this a parameter? class { 'apache': ssl_package => true } | ||
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| [2012/01/18 02:48:02] <mukulm> Hi, how can i find the sync & unsync clients from puppet server ? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 02:48:16] <beddari> rbowlby: not better, just different? (and you don't need to repeat your question hehe) | ||
| [2012/01/18 02:48:47] <rbowlby> beddari: is one a "standard"? | ||
| [2012/01/18 02:49:48] <beddari> rbowlby: I don't think so. I myself prefer to do those in "nested classes" | ||
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| [2012/01/18 02:51:08] <rbowlby> beddari: thanks, going to tryi it with nested classes for now | ||
| [2012/01/18 02:51:49] <beddari> rbowlby: yeah, its easy to forget that you can actually do thins SIMPLE if you want ;-) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 03:30:44] <sarguru_> mukulm: You mean the commands | ||
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| [2012/01/18 03:52:00] <Elwell> Hey folks, is there a .repo file anywhere for yum.puppetlabs.com? search fail :-) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 03:53:57] <hno2> Can I somehow test in a manifest if a certain package is installed and take different actions if it is? To be exact I need to test it it's syslog or rsyslog that is installed to know what config to adjust. | ||
| [2012/01/18 03:54:25] <sarguru_> yes. You can | ||
| [2012/01/18 03:54:42] <hno2> any hints how? | ||
| [2012/01/18 03:54:59] <sarguru_> use unless or onlyif | ||
| [2012/01/18 03:55:03] <haus> Elwell: grab and install the puppetlabs-release.rpm? | ||
| [2012/01/18 03:55:15] <haus> Elwell: like (http://yum.puppetlabs.com/el/5/products/i386/puppetlabs-release-5-1.noarch.rpm) | ||
| [2012/01/18 03:55:24] @ Quit: leifmadsen: Ping timeout: 240 seconds | ||
| [2012/01/18 03:55:29] <henk> hno2: You can, but you should not. | ||
| [2012/01/18 03:55:29] <tty00> hno2: ohoj! | ||
| [2012/01/18 03:55:38] <haus> modify path to match your os | ||
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| [2012/01/18 03:56:34] <sarguru_> henk: Why shldn? Any convention? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 03:56:53] <hno2> same os release may run different syslog depending on other conditions. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 03:57:52] <henk> sarguru_: Puppet is made for saying “machine x has syslog, machine y has rsyslog”. Not for “if machine has foosyslog, do this, if not, do that”. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 03:59:28] <sarguru_> henk: True. But when you migrate pre-existing systems with different os/environments I am not sure how much you can define | ||
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| [2012/01/18 04:00:28] <Jallberg> show me most popular fifa channel please | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:01:51] <mzi> sarguru_: you do a module for syslog and a module for rsyslog. and in that module you configure either accordingly. | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:01:56] <henk> sarguru_: Yeah, I guess there are always exceptions, excuses, special cases and whatnot to justify doing stuped things… | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:03:10] <Elwell> haus: exactly like that :-) Ta | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:04:13] <mzi> sarguru_: the wrong thing to do, but will work is to drop a small script in /etc/facter.d and check that facter in your class. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 04:04:54] <sarguru_> mzi: Yeah, Bt I am not using anything like that ;) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 04:05:12] <mzi> depending on your puppet version you might have to get it from https://github.com/ripienaar/facter-facts/tree/master/facts-dot-d | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:05:50] <mzi> you compile the catalog on the master and the master is agnostic in relation to the clients. | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:06:10] <mzi> so you won't be able to check if a certain package is installed during compilation. | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:06:31] @ Quit: csanchez: Quit: csanchez | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:06:33] <mzi> hence - don't do it. | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:08:15] <sarguru_> mmm..better | ||
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| [2012/01/18 04:09:34] <kronn> Hi! | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:09:37] <kronn> Anyone around here using cucumber-puppet to test custom types? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 04:09:53] <mzi> sarguru_: but I'm still not convinced that you really want to do it. | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:10:22] <mzi> sarguru_: how are you going to treat newly provisioned machines? with another clause? | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:10:57] <sarguru_> mzi: I was just asking to explore the possibility of doing it. I have a clear definition of machines and I use different modules/environments. | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:11:01] <sarguru_> mzi: I a | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:11:38] <sarguru_> mzi: * I had some bad experience with my own hackish facts and modules and have resorted to using a more cleaner structure now | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:12:44] <sarguru_> and one more completely unrelated question. Are there any serious demerits of using a masterless puppet model? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 04:13:24] <sarguru_> Please give me your views and opinions | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:14:18] <mzi> sarguru_: I'd say that's hackish! | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:14:39] <mzi> it you mean using puppet apply intead of puppet agent | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:14:40] <sarguru_> mzi: Hackish but good hackish or bad hackish ;) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 04:14:51] <mzi> I wouldn | ||
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| [2012/01/18 04:14:58] <mzi> t use it in my envirionment. | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:15:09] <henk> I see the advantage of a decentralized setup, but no other (dis)advantages so far… | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:15:10] <mzi> too hard to bootstrap and let other people in. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 04:16:49] <sarguru_> henk: I have been experimenting with it on my test boxes. The performance is good when compared to passenger/unicorn-nginx master. But its really hackish like mzi puts it and I dont see much usage of it other than a bunch of places | ||
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| [2012/01/18 04:17:03] <henk> What’s hackish about it? | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:17:42] <sarguru_> The way you will get reports/use inventory store etc | ||
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| [2012/01/18 04:17:54] <sarguru_> but it works | ||
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| [2012/01/18 04:19:48] <henk> Sure, you lose some of the features of a master-setup, but that does not make it bad hackish IMHO. | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:20:13] <henk> I guess it depends on your use case, as so often… | ||
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| [2012/01/18 04:21:06] <sarguru_> henk: True. Its a trade off depending on the use case. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 04:22:25] <hno2> hi tty00, nice to see you here as well. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 04:35:16] <mukulm> where to track the configuration changes for users in server ? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 04:39:30] <mzi> mukulm: could you repeat that question with more words? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 04:53:34] <Sp4rKy> is there a possibility to ensure that notified "objects" are run immediatly after the object which notified ? | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:53:45] <Sp4rKy> ex : I have a file ressource, which notify an exec ressource | ||
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| [2012/01/18 04:54:22] <Sp4rKy> I would be sure that no ressource will be evaluated betwwen the file{} and the exec{} | ||
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| [2012/01/18 04:55:22] <mzi> then you should probably assign them to their own stage. | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:55:39] <henk> Sp4rKy: Not easily. What are you doing? Why do you think you need that? | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:55:40] <Sp4rKy> was thinking of this, but ... | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:55:50] <Sp4rKy> I'm adding rpm repositories | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:56:08] <Sp4rKy> I have 4 rpm repositories, each node may add some of them, not all | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:56:20] <Sp4rKy> so a basic stage that creates all is not good | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:56:35] <Sp4rKy> could virtual ressources works ? | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:56:38] <mzi> why the exec? | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:56:49] <Sp4rKy> mzi: to update yum cache | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:57:04] <henk> That does not answer my question or explain why you need it run _directly_ afterwards. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 04:57:42] <Sp4rKy> henk: because if not, I only have a "Scheduling refresh of Exec[update yum cache]" | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:58:02] <Sp4rKy> and puppet tries to install some Package ressources without the cache was updated | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:58:05] <mzi> do a define (with a virtual resource if you like) that uses yumrepos and an exec. | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:58:12] <mzi> and put that define it its own stage | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:58:58] <Sp4rKy> so one define per repo | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:59:44] <mzi> depending on what your repos look like you could have an even more genereal define. | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:59:50] <Sp4rKy> and I add the appropriated call to each node | ||
| [2012/01/18 04:59:57] <mzi> yup. | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:00:15] <Sp4rKy> mzi: all ressources in a define are run in same "block" ? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 05:01:58] <henk> So you have packages which depend on a certain repository but you don‘t tell puppet about it? ;) | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:02:13] <Sp4rKy> henk: I do | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:02:33] <Sp4rKy> but repository and yum makecache are 2 differents ressources | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:02:46] <Sp4rKy> so the package depends on the repository | ||
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| [2012/01/18 05:04:22] <mzi> http://pastie.org/3206538 | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:05:41] <mzi> if you have the url something like http://server/path/to/repo/$architechture/$operatingsystemrelease/ you can easily replace the 'repo' part of the url with for example $title | ||
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| [2012/01/18 05:06:12] <mzi> and I'm old, of cource I mean $::operatingsystemrelease and so on. | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:06:29] <mzi> course, even. :) | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:06:42] <Sp4rKy> :) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 05:08:32] <Sp4rKy> well, give it a try | ||
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| [2012/01/18 05:16:28] <kjalil> hello, i'm using "roles" to define what my puppet instance should do, such as "webserver" or "db", and then I use an "include" to include a file which has the same name as the "role", so "modules/roles/manifest/webserver.pp", etc. The problem is that I am using a regular expression to "extract" the role from the "hostname" the machine uses. In this scenario if I do a postgres master/slave setup I am forced to use hostnames like "pg_master" and "pg_slave" w | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:16:34] <kjalil> hich people recommend is a bad idea because a slave could be a master at any time. So what is a better solution? Perhaps I should get the role from some other location? Maybe EC2 userdata as everything is deployed there and then I could "pass" the role in when I start the machine? | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:18:44] <misc> I guess you could use a enc | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:18:54] <misc> ( ie, a script that goive you the role based on the hostname ) | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:19:18] <misc> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/external_nodes.html | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:19:56] <_rc> sounds like you've already got an answer in your EC2 userdata thingy, what's the question? | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:20:50] <kjalil> _rc, yes I just wanted to ask, wondering what people thought about it, perhaps it's a common usecase | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:21:57] <kjalil> misc, ENC sounds promising as well, thanks | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:22:35] <_rc> it's very common | ||
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| [2012/01/18 05:31:35] <kjalil> a separate question: on the "hostname" of master/slave situation, I really can't think of anything else to use besides maybe pg1 for the master and pg2 for the slave. I could use weird names like "bart" and "lisa" that have nothing to do with the machine's roles, but won't that be more confusing? | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:31:50] <mukulm> How can i tack the configuration changes from server instead of dashboard ? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 05:33:59] <_rc> mukulm: enable reports, but use the store report processor and process the yaml summaries yourself | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:34:12] <misc> kjalil: a hostname is just a convention, I do not understand the question | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:34:29] <henk> kjalil: I tend to give my systems real names (like bart and lisa) and assign the role via extlookup (and via CNAMES in DNS). That scales and works nicely when a new server takes over a role from another server. | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:34:49] <misc> (and allow some harmless fun from sysadmin too ) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 05:35:37] <mutante> kjalil: how about burns and smithers for master/slave ?:) | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:35:45] <mukulm> rc > reports are enabled but want to see the changes through command line ? | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:36:05] <kjalil> henk, could you elaborate on how you use extlookup + CNAMES to do it please? | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:36:18] <_rc> mukulm: which report processors do you have enabled? | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:36:22] <kjalil> mutante, excellent.... :-) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 05:37:15] <mukulm> rc > its puppet inbuild | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:37:39] <_rc> mukulm: never heard of that one | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:38:22] <_rc> mukulm: what does 'puppet --configprint reports' say on the master? | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:38:25] <henk> kjalil: DNS does not matter for puppet, only extlookup. I do an "include $role" where "$role = extlookup('role')" more or less… | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:38:39] <henk> kjalil: But hiera > extlookup AFAICT | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:39:47] <mukulm> rc > store | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:40:14] <kjalil> henk, yeah i've heard good things about hiera, really need to look into it | ||
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| [2012/01/18 05:42:32] <_rc> mukulm: then look at $vardir/reports/$fqdn | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:43:27] <sarguru_> mukulm: puppet inbuild? NEver heard of that report processor | ||
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| [2012/01/18 05:44:07] <_rc> sarguru_: keep reading, he meant 'store' | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:45:06] <mukulm> also $vardir/reports/$fqdn gives me /reports/ | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:45:55] <mukulm> but this is required for dashboard, require through server cmd | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:46:14] <_rc> sorry, I don't follow | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:46:24] <sarguru_> _rc: Got it .. SOrry :) | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:46:40] <_rc> if you're using dashboard, you typically use an additional report handler to feed it | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:47:05] <mukulm> any command or syntax from where i can see the configuration changes through command line from server | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:47:19] <_rc> if you're on the cli of the master, you can inspect the yaml files the store report generator put in $vardir/report | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:48:02] <_rc> cat $vardir/report/name.of.a.host.you.care.about/*.yml | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:48:30] <_rc> if it's not populated it may be your nodes aren't running with reporting enabled | ||
| [2012/01/18 05:48:53] <mukulm> k | ||
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| [2012/01/18 05:57:01] <codec_> sigh. could someone please come up with an awesome idea for the puppetforge? i'm in github puppet hell again. merge (with conflicts of course) repo/branch x, y to get features z, z1, z2. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 06:03:31] <kjalil> henk, i'm reading the ENC docs but can't quite understand how to implement it. I just write a script that extracts the role from EC2's userdata and returns YAML with only the "parameters" set? I don't quite understand what the point of "classes" is | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:04:38] <_rc> it's the classes to apply | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:04:57] <_rc> so all the include statements you'd have put in your node definition | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:05:17] <_rc> I'm assuming you have a class per role | ||
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| [2012/01/18 06:06:53] <kjalil> _rc, if the ENC returns the YAML that is on the docs page, how does puppet know that "this" particular node will use it and not this other one? | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:07:01] <kjalil> _rc, yes, I have a class per-role | ||
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| [2012/01/18 06:13:06] <_rc> kjalil: it's invoked as /path/to/your/enc $fqdn | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:13:25] <_rc> so you look at your arguments and return the yaml for the node you're asked about | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:14:41] <kjalil> _rc, ah so it's hostname based again, which I'm trying to avoid, so I guess I'll just ignore that and grab the userdata instead from EC2 and return appropriately | ||
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| [2012/01/18 06:15:33] <_rc> it's only as hostname based as using that for a primary key to identify the node in question; same as the rest of puppet | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:16:08] <_rc> your ENC can then ask the EC2 userdata or whatever | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:17:17] <_rc> otherwise how does your ENC know what node it's being asked about? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 06:31:55] <mukulm> k thc rc | ||
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| [2012/01/18 06:40:45] <RhysMorgan> Morning all! | ||
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| [2012/01/18 06:41:12] <RhysMorgan> Using the exec command is there a defined way of outputting stout and std err to designated flat files? | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:42:18] <mzi> it's just a shell escape so 1> 2> will work | ||
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| [2012/01/18 06:45:33] <RhysMorgan> internal to the command? | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:45:47] <RhysMorgan> That's what I assumed | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:46:03] <_rc> depends on the version of puppet | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:46:44] <_rc> pre 2.6ish it's arbitary shell, later there's a choice of provider with the default being to not use a shell | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:47:41] <_rc> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/latest/type.html#exec see the section on the provider parameter | ||
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| [2012/01/18 06:50:38] <ABK> *ping* | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:51:04] <ABK> could anyone answer a Q regarding puppet modules and custom resource | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:51:28] <_rc> no need to ask to ask | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:52:08] <ABK> so, we have a Puppet Module with different *.pp files included in init.pp | ||
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| [2012/01/18 06:52:58] <ABK> we had a custom resource | ||
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| [2012/01/18 06:53:24] <ABK> accessed in multiple *.pp file there with different names | ||
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| [2012/01/18 06:53:58] <ABK> we extracted that out in a different file, but facing problem in accessing it | ||
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| [2012/01/18 06:54:54] <ABK> putting that entire custom resource in a class, including that and accessing the resource via class giving duplication problem | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:54:54] <_rc> you named the file consistently with the name of the define, as per http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/modules.html#module-autoloading ? | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:55:16] <ABK> facing not-found resource type in some other approaches tried | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:55:36] <ABK> what would be the preferred/working approach | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:56:51] <ABK> I think so, let me double check the spelling once more | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:57:25] <_rc> well what do you currently have, and what's the error you're getting? | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:57:55] <ABK> yes its according to convention | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:58:43] <ABK> ok so if | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:58:44] <ABK> init.pp {include a, include b} | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:59:23] <ABK> a.pp [[ class modulename::a{ res1{...} }]] | ||
| [2012/01/18 06:59:34] <ABK> b.pp [[ class modulename::b{ res1{...} }]] | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:00:07] <ABK> myres.pp [[ class modulename::myres{ def res1($myvar){...} }]] | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:00:09] <Volcane> ABK: please put your code on pastie.org along with any actual errors | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:00:32] <Volcane> ABK: telling us what you think you have doesnt say anything about your actual code - there might just be a small error you are missing, we cant really help you with hypothetical code | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:01:46] <ABK> ok, until then is there any other preferred approach or link I can refer to | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:02:02] <Volcane> the docs linked to already covers it | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:02:10] <Volcane> and u seem to understand the basics | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:03:50] <ABK> thanks, I'll make it available on pastie (if get consent from PM :) ), and be back | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:04:11] <ABK> thanks for the help @Volcane @_rc | ||
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| [2012/01/18 07:48:13] <ABK> hey @Volcane @_rc | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:48:23] <ABK> I tried a similar stuff on my local try box | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:48:29] <ABK> and its giving the same error | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:48:35] <ABK> the thing I tried is at | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:48:36] <ABK> http://pastie.org/3207160 | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:48:57] <ABK> that's the actual code-piece I tried | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:49:07] <ABK> and the Error peice | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:49:51] <bd> ABK: class ztest::myres { ... } | ||
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| [2012/01/18 07:51:16] <ABK> bd: what is wrong in there, plz giv some detail | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:52:11] <bd> ABK: the name is wrong, look at what you pasted | ||
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| [2012/01/18 07:53:14] <ABK> oh!!! my bad, I'll try the corrected version and update it there as well, thanks for notifying | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:53:26] <sarguru_> ABK the class myres should be class ztest::myres{} | ||
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| [2012/01/18 07:55:02] <bd> I'd like to have my puppet generated .dot files in one central location, not on each node | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:57:08] <ABK> corrected the manifest and the Error generated | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:57:30] <ABK> the Error was resource_type not found from that included class | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:57:42] <ABK> what would be corrected preferred approach for that | ||
| [2012/01/18 07:57:56] <ABK> http://pastie.org/3207160 | ||
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| [2012/01/18 08:04:14] <ABK> HELP!!! http://pastie.org/3207160 | ||
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| [2012/01/18 08:07:48] <ABK> ~ | ||
| [2012/01/18 08:07:48] <ABK> ~ | ||
| [2012/01/18 08:07:48] <ABK> http://pastie.org/3207160 | ||
| [2012/01/18 08:07:51] <robthoms__> ABK, what makes you think that tmp_file will be able to lookup res1? | ||
| [2012/01/18 08:09:44] <pabelanger> any body have a good example of using cloud-init (ubuntu) with puppet? I'm looking to change my hostname on my ec2 instances | ||
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| [2012/01/18 08:11:39] <_rc> ABK: you need to rename your define | ||
| [2012/01/18 08:12:04] <robthoms__> ABK, no private messages, please. | ||
| [2012/01/18 08:12:06] <_rc> the error message is that it can't find it | ||
| [2012/01/18 08:12:12] <ABK> robthoms_ : i even tried including it in tmp_file no effect | ||
| [2012/01/18 08:12:27] <robthoms__> ABK, I think that ztest::myres::res1 { "newres": } will probably work. | ||
| [2012/01/18 08:12:40] <ABK> cool, I'll try that right now | ||
| [2012/01/18 08:12:57] <_rc> it *might*, but far better to name it that and not nest a define declaration inside a class | ||
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| [2012/01/18 08:13:14] <robthoms__> I agree .. make the define top level, ideally. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 08:13:30] <adedommelin> 2/c | ||
| [2012/01/18 08:13:31] <ABK> ztest::myres::res1 worked | ||
| [2012/01/18 08:13:33] <ABK> tahnks | ||
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| [2012/01/18 08:45:30] <marcus> hi all. i am using puppet in standalone mode (without a puppet server). here is an example where i use templates: http://pastebin.com/k28tmncX, now my question is if there is another way to refer template("$network::template_path/resolv.conf.erb"). i thought about something like $module::template_path | ||
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| [2012/01/18 08:46:14] <bigon> hi, I've a parameterized class that is included in a base node, and my other nodes is inheriting of it. it seems there is no way to change a parameter in child node. is there any other clean(tm) way to do that? | ||
| [2012/01/18 08:46:58] <bigon> template('network/resolv.conf.erb') should work | ||
| [2012/01/18 08:47:22] <bigon> marcus: ^ | ||
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| [2012/01/18 08:47:42] <marcus> hmm, i just wanted to skip network but to use a global variable instead | ||
| [2012/01/18 08:48:16] <robthoms__> bigon, Have your child nodes include the param'd class.. consider using an ENC or extlookup (or hiera).. avoid dynamically scoped variables at all cost. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 08:49:51] <_rc> marcus: why do you want to use a global? | ||
| [2012/01/18 08:51:26] <_rc> template('network/resolv.conf.erb') means the resolv.conf.erb from the templates dir of the network module. organising by modules is a good thing. | ||
| [2012/01/18 08:53:03] <marcus> because if i have more, i need to adjust that value on every change of the module name | ||
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| [2012/01/18 08:54:48] <_rc> then use the ${module_name} variable? or back up and think as to why you're renaming your modules so much, and address that | ||
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| [2012/01/18 08:56:24] <sarguru_> marcus: Even I use a stand alone puppet. I feel its better to include modulepath in your templates/resource. Using global values is not a recommended practice | ||
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| [2012/01/18 08:59:22] <marcus> ok i guess i will stick with your advise. is this also possible for file reference? atm. i am using something like: http://pastebin.com/JYn833sL | ||
| [2012/01/18 08:59:41] <marcus> where filepath is the mount point | ||
| [2012/01/18 08:59:42] <sarguru_> or you can say "${module_name}/template.erb | ||
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| [2012/01/18 09:01:18] <_rc> for that you say source => "puppet:///modules/network/interfaces", and on the fs it's modules/network/files/interfaces | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:01:43] <_rc> this way the same module will work serverless or with a server | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:01:43] <sarguru_> yes $module_name is introduced since puppet .6 | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:01:49] <sarguru_> 2.6* | ||
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| [2012/01/18 09:02:58] <marcus> hmm, then it says: can't use relative urls | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:03:00] <_rc> does that mean in 2.6, or after 2.6? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 09:03:52] <sarguru_> marcus: I use source=>"puppet:///modules/${module_name}/foo.cf | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:03:54] <hno2> Hm. trying to make a template for snmpd.conf, but we have snippets in there for very many things depending on what is installed on the node. And advice on how to structure this? | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:03:58] <_rc> marcus: can we see the actual resource with the actual error message | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:04:10] <sarguru_> _rc: in 2.6 | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:04:47] <hno2> Ideally I'd like the snmpd.conf template in the snmp module somehow automatically inherit parts added by other modules somehow. | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:05:04] <marcus> sarguru_, i think it works in server mode, but not in file based mode | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:05:19] <_rc> hno2: expose a define for adding stuff to the file, use concat in its implementation | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:05:52] <hno2> concat how where? | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:06:24] <_rc> krish1: https://github.com/ripienaar/puppet-concat#readme | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:06:28] <_rc> hno2: https://github.com/ripienaar/puppet-concat#readme | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:06:36] <_rc> krish1: misfire, sorry | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:07:41] <marcus> sarguru, ah it even works in file mode, thanks | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:08:27] <marcus> one last question for now: is it always recommended to refer variables with ${VAR} instead $VAR? | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:08:42] <_rc> yes | ||
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| [2012/01/18 09:09:34] <_rc> insulates you from parser changes where they made '-' valid in an identifier etc. | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:10:15] <_rc> this is only in string interpolation mind, no point to it otherwise | ||
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| [2012/01/18 09:12:25] <hno2> _rc, looks very promising. Is there any way to feed these collected fragments into a template instead of a file? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 09:12:32] <sarguru_> marcus: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/style_guide.html | ||
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| [2012/01/18 09:13:10] <_rc> hno2: no | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:13:43] <hno2> a pity.. the order alone is a litle fragile. | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:13:51] <aptiko> Can I get more useful error messages from augeas than "Save failed with return code false"? | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:13:56] <_rc> the order alone is sufficient | ||
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| [2012/01/18 09:15:44] <hno2> yes. i guess I can get something sane from it by hiding the order in defines for the different slots that should accept fragments. | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:17:45] <Dominic> aptiko: not before Puppet 2.8 really, you can try to reproduce what you're doing with augtool. It's normally a problem that you're setting the wrong node in the order or similar (#augeas may be some help here). | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:18:11] <aptiko> thx | ||
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| [2012/01/18 09:30:54] <fallen> just wondering, is anybody using mod_cache for file_metadata on puppetmaster? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 09:38:42] <caaakeeey> can i do string manipulation in puppet? | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:38:55] <caaakeeey> specifically removing a period | ||
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| [2012/01/18 09:40:27] <_rc> caaakeeey: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/stable/function.html#regsubst | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:40:35] <`mx> when writing your facts and are pushed out with pluginsync. Should they been seen when I run facter? or is it only accessable via puppet? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 09:41:13] <_rc> `mx: facter --puppet | ||
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| [2012/01/18 09:44:22] <ashp> Hmm | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:44:26] <`mx> _rc: thx | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:44:43] <ashp> I wonder if it would be a good use of facter to have it return an array of all repositories a machine is using via /etc/yum.repos.d/ | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:44:50] <ashp> that way I could query machines to see what they are using for package sources | ||
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| [2012/01/18 09:45:59] <_rc> my general feeling on that kind of thing is no, declare what they should have, don't ask what they do | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:46:33] <ashp> While that's definitely the general principle | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:46:34] @ Quit: jodok_: Ping timeout: 276 seconds | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:46:45] <ashp> When you're retrofitting puppet into a large amount of machines that were all built by hand | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:46:54] <ashp> it can be hard to accurately inventory everything to see what's going on :D | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:47:11] <ashp> About the only thing I've shoehorned in to the majority of these machines is facter/puppet so far, next is mcollective | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:47:24] <ashp> so I'm trying to gather all my information to take the next step via facter where possible as it's the only thing I can trust | ||
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| [2012/01/18 09:54:18] <caaakeeey> _rc, thanks <3 | ||
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| [2012/01/18 09:56:55] <astrostl> i have a list of 100+ web sites to monitor, which i'll do using the nagios_* types. what would the most efficient way to loop over them be? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 09:57:20] <astrostl> i could make a shell script that enters them using a define or something like that, but i'm wondering if there's a more puppet-native way i should be iterating over a list. i could make it a csv. | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:57:22] <RhysMorgan> I have somehow gotten into the position where a dev group wants a package deployed which is a series of 2 bat files how can i carry them out in order? | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:57:26] <RhysMorgan> stage? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 09:57:56] <astrostl> stage would work | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:58:03] <astrostl> separate classes with specified order would work | ||
| [2012/01/18 09:58:25] <astrostl> repackaging it into one thing would perhaps be most elegant | ||
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| [2012/01/18 09:58:49] <RhysMorgan> It would but unfortunately it is way out of my comfort zone to do so and politics are heavy at the moment with people and process | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:00:28] <astrostl> i tend to use separate classes in modules, like deps.pp for dependencies, install.pp for installation, config.pp for configuration, etc. | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:00:44] <astrostl> in init.pp i put include foo::deps, foo::install | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:00:54] <astrostl> and Class['foo::deps'] -> Class['foo::install'] | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:01:00] <RhysMorgan> oh so it does work procedurally that way? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 10:01:12] <astrostl> then include foo for the node in site.pp | ||
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| [2012/01/18 10:01:23] <astrostl> that picks up init.pp, which picks up the sub-classes and orders them as i intend | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:01:33] <bd> my puppet generated, dot'ified png has a width of 20000 and a height of 300 pixels. is there a way to get a more squareish picture? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 10:01:49] <bd> neato does draw a rectangular one, but all the nodes overlap | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:01:59] <astrostl> bd: multi-monitor until you get 20k pixels :) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 10:02:16] <RhysMorgan> so I have 3 classes: app::dirs, app::files, app::exec and i assume this method would require an app::exec2 | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:02:20] <bd> asbruvik1: I fear I'd need display link chaining :) | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:02:39] <bd> hmngralt, nickcompletion fail | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:03:27] <RhysMorgan> dirs and files are pre-req's so i have require => Class['tecad::dirs'] in the tecad::files and require => Class['tecad::files'] in the tecad::exec | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:03:31] <_rc> RhysMorgan: so you have two execs you want to control the order they apply in? | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:03:51] <astrostl> if they're execs you can simply have the second one be refreshonly and the first one can notify it | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:03:57] <astrostl> i thought they were actual package resources | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:04:05] <RhysMorgan> no, sorry my bad explanation | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:04:19] <astrostl> _rc: any tips on large-data import as described above? | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:04:21] <RhysMorgan> astrostl: yes that would work, thankyou | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:04:23] <_rc> easier, you can before/require relationship | ||
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| [2012/01/18 10:04:49] <RhysMorgan> so require => Class['tecad::exec'] in the tecad::exec2 class? | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:04:59] <_rc> don't make two classes | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:05:30] <_rc> it's completely fair game for one resource in a class to require another one | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:06:15] <_rc> people take the fad of splitting package/file/service too far at times | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:06:40] <RhysMorgan> it's something I have gotten used to to enable granularity from our portal UI | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:08:20] <RhysMorgan> Like this? | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:08:22] <RhysMorgan> http://pastebin.com/TEPgeSRF | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:08:23] <_rc> astrostl: describe the data some more | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:08:57] <_rc> RhysMorgan: yes, that'll ensure ordering | ||
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| [2012/01/18 10:09:25] <millere> Hi all - I've been testing some definitions locally (puppet —confdir=/mypuppet /mypuppet/manifests/sites.pp) with 0.25.5 (works fine). Now running same files on a 0.25.4 server is not resolving paths (eg. Package[$postgres::params::pg_server] errors out as "Package[]" is a duplicate) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 10:09:35] <RhysMorgan> perfect, thank you: that's my something new learnt for today :-) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 10:10:22] <astrostl> _rc: text file with 100+ urls, that's all it is | ||
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| [2012/01/18 10:10:31] <themadcanudist> hey guys… is there defined plans to support parameterized classes with the ruby dsl? | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:10:40] <themadcanudist> the docs say it's supported, but it doesn't work, at least in puppet 2.7.1 | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:10:49] <astrostl> current plan: make a define so that i can nagios_host add them with a one-liner, then iterate over the file with a for loop to spam out individual define invocations | ||
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| [2012/01/18 10:11:00] <astrostl> what i'd LIKE is to be able to reference it as an external file | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:11:19] <astrostl> nagios_host { 'hosts': importsomecrap => file.csv } a la extlookup | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:11:27] <astrostl> with resource purging of deleted items and the whole shebang | ||
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| [2012/01/18 10:11:32] <astrostl> perhaps a lot to ask | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:11:33] <_rc> themadcanudist: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/5236 it's a tracked issue | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:11:40] <themadcanudist> yeah | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:11:41] <themadcanudist> totally | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:11:52] <themadcanudist> that part i knew | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:12:00] <themadcanudist> just wondering if someone had some insight =) | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:12:14] <astrostl> best to ask for that in the ticket | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:12:18] <themadcanudist> kk | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:12:19] <themadcanudist> thx | ||
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| [2012/01/18 10:13:47] <_rc> astrostl: so $urls = slurp_file("urls.txt") nagios::url { $urls: } | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:14:30] <astrostl> something like that, yeah | ||
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| [2012/01/18 10:14:49] <astrostl> i can't find a single ref to slurp_file on google, is that pseudocode? | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:14:56] <_rc> completely doable, you just need to write a function for slurp_file | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:15:32] <astrostl> if i do that can i still do a resource purge for those that BECOME unmanaged? | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:15:43] <astrostl> i'd like to use extlookup because it can already grok csvs and i can add data to it | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:16:11] <_rc> extlookup isn't going to do anything useful for you in this case | ||
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| [2012/01/18 10:16:59] <astrostl> i don't want to go through writing something custom only to find it can't auto-purge | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:17:05] <_rc> it uses csvs, this much is true, but it uses them as a simple table backend, not your use-case at all | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:17:12] <astrostl> if it can't, i'll just loop over it and put it all in the manifest | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:17:18] <astrostl> generate might do it? | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:17:37] <_rc> generate returns a string | ||
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| [2012/01/18 10:17:57] <astrostl> so multiple lines won't fly as an array input? | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:18:22] <_rc> right | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:18:48] <_rc> auto-purging is really going to depend on how you implement the rest of the define | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:19:50] <_rc> say if you were to add files into a directory managed with ensure => purge then it'll take care of it magically | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:20:05] <_rc> I really can't speak to the built in nagios types | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:20:13] <astrostl> they're pretty threadbare | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:20:19] <astrostl> they support purging though | ||
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| [2012/01/18 10:48:43] <caaakeeey> what are the possible ways of having a puppet agent run, other than every x minutes, ie can you trigger a run when the files on the master change? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 10:49:06] <henk> caaakeeey: puppet kick | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:49:30] <chjohnst> puppet kick is one way | ||
| [2012/01/18 10:49:34] <chjohnst> or use mcollective | ||
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| [2012/01/18 10:49:47] <chjohnst> with an svn/git/rcs post trigger | ||
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| [2012/01/18 10:50:16] <henk> ssh $node "puppet agent -t" works too :-p | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:00:30] <themadcanudist> top-scope variables in puppet: I can access them via $::variable, however, how would I access a variable defined within a NODE definition that includes a class? It seems like those variables aren't top-scope. Am I doing something wrong? | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:01:14] <themadcanudist> however, i can access it via $variable… I'd like to be explicit about what scope to take it from. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:04:15] <ZummiG777> Question: We are currently running puppet .25.5 for our puppetmaster and clients. We are going to be upgrading soon, but it will be server by server. If we upgrade the puppetmaster first to 2.6 will the clients who are still running .25.5 still work correctly? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:05:52] <themadcanudist> nm, i think i got it. I believe they act the same as classes for scope… hmmmm. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:14:53] <themadcanudist> hey is there a way to generically reference the parent scope when using a variable? Or generically reference a number of parent scopes back or generically reference the node scope without being specific? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:16:07] <ozy_work> can I write a custom function to create resources? | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:16:26] <ozy_work> the syntax for functions appears different than the syntax used when defining resources | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:19:01] <joe-mac1> that's because it is, functions are run server-side, and are written in ruby | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:19:16] <ozy_work> hmm, ok | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:20:03] <themadcanudist> joe-mac1: do you have any idea about scoping variables and pulling them from the node scope? | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:20:25] <themadcanudist> or generically referencing a parent class? | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:20:49] <themadcanudist> sorry.. generically referencing a variable in a parent class without knowing the parent class name. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:21:33] <ozy_work> joe-mac1: I am trying to create a function that can be used to create a bunch of nagios checks -- we have some services that run over a load balancer, and the only thing that changes is the hostname/url, so I wanted to call the nagios_host and nagios_service resources in a function | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:22:51] <joe-mac1> scope.lookupvar themadcanudist | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:23:36] <joe-mac1> ozy_work: I think you're using the term 'function' wrong | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:23:42] <joe-mac1> you mean class or define | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:24:21] <ozy_work> perhaps. I want to pass the hostname to 'something' and have it generate the nagios_host{} resource to be run on the nagios host | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:24:37] <ozy_work> can classes accept arguments? | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:24:47] <joe-mac1> classes can but they are singletons | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:24:56] <joe-mac1> therefore you likely need a define | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:25:06] <teacup> hi, is there a way of reporting package versions with the audit metaparameter? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:25:41] <themadcanudist> joe-mac1: scope.lookupvar works in templates and in ruby dsl, but will it work in a puppet DSL manifest? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:26:31] <ozy_work> joe-mac1: do you have alink to documentation? I am getting a lot of results for 'defined' which appears to be different | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:27:25] <joe-mac1> themadcanudist: use $::var | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:27:28] <joe-mac1> that is global scope | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:27:38] <joe-mac1> ozy_work: look at the language reference at the 'define' keyword | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:28:16] <Dewin> themadcanudist: Are you perhaps looking for inherits? | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:28:19] <themadcanudist> joe-mac1: that much i know. Say I want to refer to the node scope generically? Is that possible with some.. | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:28:24] <themadcanudist> Dewin: I'd like to avoid inherits | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:28:35] <themadcanudist> Dewin: ACtually they won't work in this case anyway | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:28:54] <themadcanudist> I'd like something like this… $node::variable | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:29:06] <themadcanudist> where node is like a symbol. | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:29:22] <themadcanudist> so any node that includes a class, that class can look for $node::variable | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:29:28] <sarguru_> teacup: You can specify the version of the package to be present in the system | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:29:33] <themadcanudist> it works by letting puppet 2.7.X search through its scope… but i'd like to be specific. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:29:42] <Dewin> Aren't node variables globals? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:29:58] <Dewin> (I honestly don't know, I haven't found good documentation on node and haven't used it yet} | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:29:59] <themadcanudist> they are. | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:30:09] <themadcanudist> but not top-scope | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:30:13] <Dewin> then $::var | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:30:18] <themadcanudist> that won't work | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:30:30] <Dewin> sorry, I meant top scope when I said global | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:30:33] <teacup> saguru_: I was hoping to be able to use puppet to audit our existing systems.. so by using audit I was hoping it coudl repor the package version | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:30:47] <joe-mac1> themadcanudist: you want to refer to a node's vars inside another node's catalog? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:30:56] <joe-mac1> $var will work | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:31:00] <joe-mac1> you're overthinking it | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:31:20] <Dewin> being able to automatically lookup variable scope is going away I thought | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:32:40] <sarguru_> teacup: Im not sure if you can do it. Audit is not a part of the package resource type. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:34:17] <teacup> sarguru_: ok, thanks. still quite new to this so not sure entirely sure how to implement this | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:34:41] <Dewin> Err, if I'm reading the docs right, I don't see why you couldn't? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:34:52] <Dewin> Disclaimer: Also still quite new | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:44:34] <emamdouh> hi, i'm facing a weired problem with puppet | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:44:46] <emamdouh> i have puppet master version 2.7.6 | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:44:53] <emamdouh> and puppet node version 2.7.9 | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:45:02] <emamdouh> every thing was running fine | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:45:19] <emamdouh> but from about one hour puppet agent runs so slowly | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:45:30] <emamdouh> any ideas why this happens | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:45:58] <GoodKarma> network? | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:46:38] <emamdouh> btw, machines are ec2 instances | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:47:09] <sarguru_> which one is taking more time? | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:47:35] <emamdouh> sarguru_ , what do you mean ? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:48:14] <sarguru_> emamdouh: Which part of the puppet agent run is taking the maximum time | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:48:27] <joe-mac1> emamdouh: you're doing the upgrading backwards | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:48:32] <joe-mac1> you're supposed to upgrade master before nodes | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:49:24] <emamdouh> the whole execution takes about 1000 seconds ,and the normal execution takes 50 seconds | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:50:00] <sarguru_> in the report you will find the time taken by separate sections of the puppet agent run | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:50:19] <sarguru_> if you give us the complete details we can help | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:51:26] <hajile> is brandon turner around? | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:51:50] <hajile> i'm running into some weird problems with the puppet-rvm module, if anyone has any expertise in this area :) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:52:57] <themadcanudist> joe-mac1: yeah, i know i'm overthinking it, but as dewin said, i'm trying to prepare for puppet's future… that global scope lookup is going away | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:53:08] <themadcanudist> =) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:53:35] <themadcanudist> this actually wouldn't be an issue if i could declare parameterized classes in the ruby dsl | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:53:52] <themadcanudist> as i would just use parameterized classes everywhere… but cuz i can't i'm a bit screwed =D | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:55:47] <_rc> themadcanudist: quit it. the future will get here without all that pacing. | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:56:13] <DigitalFlux> sarguru_: joe-mac1: Guys | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:56:27] <DigitalFlux> Here is the summary of the puppet runs emamdouh has been talking about | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:56:28] <DigitalFlux> https://gist.github.com/1634023 | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:56:32] <themadcanudist> =D | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:56:38] <DigitalFlux> The File resources are taking too much time as you can see | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:56:45] <DigitalFlux> but this just didn't use to happen before ! | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:57:03] <DigitalFlux> scping some files over the network shows that the network between the 2 EC2 instances is just fine | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:57:16] <Dewin> How large are the files? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:57:30] <joe-mac1> themadcanudist: what you can do, and I think this is what I did, is write a wrapper traditional class that says if $ensure present then add that ruby class | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:57:35] <_rc> puppet's file resource is a lot more complex and slower than a scp | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:57:48] <joe-mac1> something like that | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:57:56] <joe-mac1> idk it kind of sucks buyt iut might work for you | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:57:58] <Dewin> And I think files are md5sum'd before a transfer even happens to see if it's needed? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:57:59] <sarguru_> scp is faster than puppet file transfering | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:58:22] <DigitalFlux> sarguru_: I do get that, i was just load testing the network | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:58:27] <DigitalFlux> so see if there are network issues | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:58:31] <DigitalFlux> but it's working just fine | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:58:43] <DigitalFlux> no new files was added to the code, it's just a new puppet run | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:58:52] <_rc> how many file resources do you have? | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:59:13] <themadcanudist> joe-mac1: interesting… do you have a quick example of what you mean. I think I understand. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 11:59:31] <DoDaT69> greeting all! I have a question relating to the use of a variable in a file declaration | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:59:47] <DigitalFlux> _rc: How can i count those ? | ||
| [2012/01/18 11:59:56] <DoDaT69> can I do it? and is it in the same fashion as concatenation of variables? | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:00:21] <DigitalFlux> Guess what, the puppet agent on that puppet master is currently failing ! | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:00:39] <_rc> DigitalFlux: calm down. | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:01:06] <DigitalFlux> _rc: :) | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:01:10] <DigitalFlux> here is the trace: https://gist.github.com/1634054 | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:01:33] <joe-mac1> themadcanudist: http://www.pastie.org/3208392 | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:01:48] <joe-mac1> then in mysql::metrics, that's a parameterized class, pass all your params and just pull them into local scope inside the .rb | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:01:50] <joe-mac1> works fine for me | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:01:52] <_rc> it timed out while the master was compiling the catalog. look at the load on the master | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:02:12] <DigitalFlux> _rc: looks cool, 0.20 | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:02:18] <_rc> also check the log, it should log how long it's taking for compliation in the syslog | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:02:28] <_rc> I don't actaully mean loadavg | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:02:39] <joe-mac1> then you just include it themadcanudist | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:03:02] <PerryChick2015> herro people | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:03:13] <themadcanudist> right, gotcha. | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:03:13] <joe-mac1> set something like local_ensure = scope.lookupvar("mysql::metrics::ensure") if you need to be able to remove resoruces, one of my most common uses of parameterized classes | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:03:13] <themadcanudist> thx | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:03:51] <PerryChick2015> ummmm | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:04:34] <PerryChick2015> what? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:08:43] <mfridh> it's odd. I have ruby-augeas 0.4.1 on EL6, but still the augeas setm command is unknown... | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:08:53] <mfridh> thought 0.4 should have setm ... | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:09:05] <Dominic> mfridh: which version of Puppet? You need 2.7.x for support. | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:09:16] <mfridh> Dominic: oh, that's it? thanks... I'm using 2.6 | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:09:31] <Dominic> mfridh: yeah, 'fraid so as the provider currently parses the commands so you need support in two places | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:09:47] <mfridh> yep, should have figured that out myself actually... | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:09:58] <mfridh> thanks. I'll use some grubby exec instead for this grub.conf thing :) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:10:29] <Dominic> ah yeah, it's really handy for GRUB. It's a trivial patch if you want to do that, look at issue #6494. | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:10:30] <gepetto> Dominic: #6494 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/6494 "Puppet - Bug #6494: Augeas defvar (def*?) does not appear to be supported in Puppet. It has a status of Closed and is assigned to Nigel Kersten" | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:16:15] <mfridh> so annoying that EL is on 2.6.x and alot of the stuff isn't backported properly | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:17:25] <mfridh> thanks Dominic | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:17:28] <Dewin> If a class subscribes to another class but that class never ends up being loaded otherwise, what happens? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:19:02] <_rc> you get an error | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:20:00] <Dewin> Well, since defined() is parse-order-dependant... | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:20:24] <mfridh> Dewin: err: Failed to apply catalog: Could not find dependency Class[Some_fictional_shit] | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:20:49] <mfridh> apparently, subscribing to something sets up an automatic dependency as well. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:21:32] <_rc> a subscription is also a require dependency, yes | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:22:28] <Dewin> If classes A and B can operate without each other, but there's some interaction that I want to have happen if both load.... | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:23:09] <mfridh> Dewin: all I know is the defined() test, but like you said... it's pure luck whether or not it does the right thing :) | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:23:10] <_rc> then, a) you're doing it wrong or b) put that in class C | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:24:24] <caaakeeey> I have a file, and an exec that depends on it, the exec has a creates short circuit, is there a way to avoid the file download from the master if the exec would have short circuited? | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:24:40] <_rc> caaakeeey: nope | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:26:22] <caaakeeey> _rc can i wrap then up in a define and somehow say the define can short circuit? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:27:04] <laudo> is there any advantage of running ruby verison 1.8.7 instead of 1.8.5 concerning puppet? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:27:13] <caaakeeey> in chef i could do File.exists? for downloading the file | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:27:45] <_rc> caaakeeey: no | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:28:50] <fubada> hi | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:29:07] <fubada> does puppet use ssh-agent on remote clients? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:29:22] <fubada> im seeing tons of stale ssh-agent procs on my puppet machines | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:29:27] <fubada> hundreds | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:29:31] <_rc> fubada: no, it uses its own thing | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:30:05] <eventi> anyone know why mysql on Ubuntu doesn't know that it's enabled? | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:30:05] <_rc> it might be something in your manifests, or some other thing | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:30:07] <eventi> I get enable changed 'false' to 'true' on every run | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:31:01] <_rc> provider issue? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:34:04] <_rc> eventi: if you run the agent with --debug does the output help explain it? | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:34:11] <ryancoleman> Are there any noticeable performance differences between using a case statement versus if/else or another conditional if each will get the job done? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:35:02] <st33v> anyone know of any example of using puppet to manage data in a database? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:35:51] <st33v> like… on the first run, if it's not already there… enter information about this host in the inventory db, for example. | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:36:10] <_rc> ryancoleman: if any they'll be marginal. go with whatever reads best | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:36:51] <ryancoleman> thanks _rc! | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:41:02] <daff> I enabled the inventory service on my puppetmaster (facts_terminus = inventory_active_record) along with storeconfigs in a postgres database | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:41:06] <caaakeeey> _rc, can i use custom facts, and then use if/else? it'll be messy but possible? | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:41:11] <daff> but clients show errors when connecting: | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:41:11] <daff> err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: PGError: ERROR: column "id" does not exist | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:41:14] <daff> LINE 1: ...2012-01-18 18:23:41.715182', 3, E'475.99 MB') RETURNING "id" | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:41:33] <daff> apparently there are database tables missing for storing facts/inventory data | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:41:40] <daff> what needs to be done here? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:42:25] <_rc> caaakeeey: you'd have to write/distribute a custom fact. is that really worth the saving of not syncng 1 file resource? If yes then go ahead, but otherwise it sounds like a premature optimisation | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:45:03] <caaakeeey> _rc, its ~200mb, so probably | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:45:46] <_rc> sounds like a candiate for managing as a package | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:47:00] <caaakeeey> _rc, in the sense of writing a custom provider, or packaging it up to use standard package management? | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:48:13] <_rc> the latter | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:48:57] <caaakeeey> _rc, mm, that's the feedback I've sent upwards, thanks | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:49:43] <^conner> anyone from #puppet going to scale10x? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:58:36] <krish> hey guys, how do i run a Exec only if a file has changed? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:58:59] <Asako> krish, refreshonly = true | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:59:08] <Asako> err: //monit/Exec[echo 'mo:2345:respawn:/usr/bin/monit -I &> /dev/null' >> /etc/inittab]: Failed to retrieve current state of resource: | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:59:13] <_rc> krish: exec { "foo": subscribe => File["blah"], | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:59:14] <Asako> anybody know what would cause this? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 12:59:39] <krish> _rc: yeah that didnt work | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:59:42] <krish> sadly | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:59:49] <_rc> so what did it do? | ||
| [2012/01/18 12:59:54] <krish> it keeps running the command on every puppet run | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:00:03] <Asako> yeah, you need refreshonly | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:00:08] <_rc> you need the refreshonly too, as Asako pointed out | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:00:56] <Asako> my manifest looks right, not sure what the problem is | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:01:28] <_rc> Asako: may we see it? also is that all there is to the error? | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:01:41] <Asako> that's the only error | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:01:46] <Asako> http://pastebin.com/rJpQbMyh | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:01:51] <_rc> Asako: puppet version? | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:02:06] <Asako> 0.25 | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:02:53] <_rc> looks ok. I'd give it a name, just in case it doesn't like the piping | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:03:27] <Asako> hmm | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:04:04] <krish> Asako: _rc: hmm that worked. acc to this it woouldnt - http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/browse_thread/thread/ce688578bf37ff7a | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:04:14] <krish> thks :) | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:04:37] <Asako> np | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:04:48] <Asako> we use augeas to manage the grub config | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:05:44] <eventi> _rc - It's using "sh -c LANG=C invoke-rc.d mysql status" | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:06:11] <_rc> eventi: and what happens when you do that? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:06:29] <Asako> I wonder if exec doesn't like my special characters | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:06:40] <eventi> it's blank - Actually don't think that's relevant | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:06:56] <eventi> pasting - http://pastie.org/3208725 | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:06:59] <_rc> krish: is your specific example the grub.conf/menu.lst like that? | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:07:31] <_rc> krish: as what's not kosher is running a command that modifies the file you just told puppet to manage | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:08:00] <_rc> eventi: what's the return value? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:08:22] <krish> _rc: yeah pretty much (mine is not menu.lst), but same 'service' depends on files managed by a module and a submodule | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:08:43] <Asako> I really don't want to throw the whole inittab into puppet | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:08:57] <_rc> krish: that's completely normal operating procedure | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:09:22] <eventi> 0 ; but I think that's testing if it's running, not "enabled" | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:09:59] <Asako> are exec commands chrooted? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:10:11] <_rc> nope | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:10:26] <_rc> they're not run with the usual environment, but no chroot | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:10:38] <Asako> oh, derp | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:10:43] <Asako> had the wrong path set | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:10:45] <_rc> eventi: that snippet you pasted, is that really all of it? | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:11:22] <eventi> oh, no - the only thing relevent to mysql - hold on | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:11:32] <_rc> how are you sure? | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:11:40] <krish> _rc: i got same service in 2 submodules too | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:11:48] <krish> ah, i guess done with days work | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:11:49] <_rc> krish: huh? | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:12:15] <krish> _rc: yeah, so since that wouldn't work, i had to alternate refresh services | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:12:21] <eventi> _rc: http://pastie.org/3208757 | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:12:26] <krish> which is subscribe to 2 files, 1 common | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:12:40] <krish> nyway, freaking thing works :) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:13:34] <_rc> well ok, but you're a little in your head with what you're saying, so I don't know what you mean | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:14:39] <Asako> puppet error messages need some work | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:15:06] <hezekiah_> anyone here running puppet masters with unicorn? my puppet master is not seeing changes to the puppet.conf or other files | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:15:10] <_rc> Asako: amen | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:15:11] <hezekiah_> I have to stop unicorn then start it | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:18:24] <_rc> eventi: looking at https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet/blob/master/lib/puppet/provider/service/debian.rb it does something like invoke-rc.d --quiet --query mysql start and examines the exit code of that to see if it's actually enabled | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:19:08] <eventi> _rc: eww | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:19:11] <eventi> :) | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:19:18] <_rc> eventi: for my curiosity can you tell me what that returns? | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:19:48] <hezekiah_> argh | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:19:58] <eventi> That's returning false | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:20:08] <_rc> I mean the exitcode? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:21:01] <eventi> 105 | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:21:48] <eventi> actually, for all I know it's not starting at boot | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:21:50] <_rc> so from the comment it suggests that the initscript for mysql doesn't support query, so it does the link counting | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:22:12] * eventi browsing ruby | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:22:42] <_rc> https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet/blob/master/lib/puppet/provider/service/debian.rb#L45 | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:23:10] <eventi> yeah - i see - so I'm going to reboot and see if it starts - it may actually not have control of mysql | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:23:13] <_rc> and then it does (effectvely) ls /etc/rc*.d/S*mysql and counts | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:24:12] <eventi> hrm - mysql is using upstart | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:24:22] <eventi> is there a provider for that? | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:24:59] <_rc> looks to be. https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet/blob/master/lib/puppet/provider/service/upstart.rb | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:25:07] <eventi> PROGRESS!!! | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:25:21] <_rc> so maybe a provider => "upstart" on your service definition will do it | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:26:00] <_rc> that is master though, so you may have a version of puppet installed that predates that provider | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:26:10] <eventi> yeah - i do :( | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:26:29] <eventi> Parameter provider failed: Invalid service provider 'upstart' | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:26:35] <_rc> also this comment suggest it's not enableable. https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet/blob/master/lib/puppet/provider/service/upstart.rb#L16 | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:27:05] <eventi> hmm - OK - I guess I'll just exec it | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:27:44] <_rc> boo | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:30:00] <eventi> _rc - agreed :( | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:30:59] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Downloading_Puppet (#136) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Downloading_Puppet?version=136 (by Matthaus Litteken) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:33:40] <eventi> _rc - it appears to be enabled in the upstart config, but puppet has no control over it - seeing how they're combined, I can see why upstart is not enable-able | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:40:30] <Dewin> Hmm. It's not legal to have an empty class I take it? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:42:25] <the_ramink> Dewin: nah, I do placeholders all the time, works fine. class postfix::sasl {} | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:42:57] <Dewin> Oh, it was probably me accidentally doing a //comment | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:43:59] <haus> PSA: Facter 1.6.5rc1 available for download in the usual haunts | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:48:36] <the_ramink> I seem to remember there being some sort of getversion funtion within Puppet that I can use. This ring a bell with anyone enough to point me to a doc? | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:48:37] <Asako> facter rocks, even if you don't use puppet | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:48:44] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Release_Notes (#158) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Release_Notes?version=158 (by Michael Stahnke) | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:48:44] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Release_Notes (#159) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Release_Notes?version=159 (by Michael Stahnke) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:50:52] <justintime> Does anyone have some tips on how to add /usr/bin/scponly to /etc/shells using augeas? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:52:50] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Release_Notes (#160) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Release_Notes?version=160 (by Michael Stahnke) | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:52:50] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Release_Notes (#161) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Release_Notes?version=161 (by Michael Stahnke) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:54:20] <Dominic> justintime: something like this should work: http://fpaste.org/JmBo/ | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:55:27] <justintime> Dominic: thanks. I really don't like the hardcoded '01' in that solution, because if I add another shell later, I have to make sure I don't reuse that label. | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:55:37] <justintime> Any way to find out what the last label is + 1? | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:56:03] <Dominic> justintime: those numbers are sequential, so when Augeas saves it'll change "01" (which it deems as invalid) to the next in the sequence. Next time you load it, it'll be n+1. | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:56:57] <justintime> dammit, that would've been nice to see in the docs http://augeas.net/page/Adding_nodes_to_the_tree | ||
| [2012/01/18 13:57:09] <justintime> I'll test, then update the wiki, thanks! | ||
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| [2012/01/18 13:59:59] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Release_Notes (#162) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Release_Notes?version=162 (by Michael Stahnke) | ||
| [2012/01/18 14:00:08] <Dominic> justintime: yes, perhaps the last paragraph of the first section could be improved there. There were a couple of silly errors in that first paste, try this: http://fpaste.org/cTI7/ | ||
| [2012/01/18 14:00:49] <justintime> Yeah, I caught those - I just needed the set command. Thanks! | ||
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| [2012/01/18 14:03:59] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Release_Notes (#163) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Release_Notes?version=163 (by Michael Stahnke) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 14:26:38] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Downloading_Puppet (#137) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Downloading_Puppet?version=137 (by Matthaus Litteken) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 14:28:29] <Text> Hi, what am I doing wrong here? http://pastebin.com/2VR7ruPB Complains of syntax error. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 14:28:36] <Text> regarding the brackets | ||
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| [2012/01/18 14:39:49] <haus> PSA: Dashboard 1.2.5rc1 available for download in the usual haunts | ||
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| [2012/01/18 14:40:01] <the_ramink> Text: extra } or missing { | ||
| [2012/01/18 14:40:44] <Text> hrm | ||
| [2012/01/18 14:40:58] <Telmo> evening, I know this questions has probably been ask a zillion times, but is there a way to cherry pick config files from the master instead of having to pull all the manifests? | ||
| [2012/01/18 14:41:09] <Text> Have I correctly built that class? | ||
| [2012/01/18 14:41:13] <Text> def? | ||
| [2012/01/18 14:41:51] <the_ramink> Text: I | ||
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| [2012/01/18 14:44:02] <the_ramink> Text: I'm not familiar with the create_resources stuff, but your first { is missing a match so the class can't be parsed properly. Removing the } on line 10 allows puppet parser validate to work | ||
| [2012/01/18 14:45:30] <themadcanudist> in the ruby DSL, should this work: if defined ["Class['module']"] | ||
| [2012/01/18 14:46:16] <themadcanudist> the syntax doesn't complain, but it does not evaluate to true, however, if i set a variable in there that I source using scope.lookupvars() and test it, it definitely works. | ||
| [2012/01/18 14:46:28] <themadcanudist> i'm wondering if there might be a namespace conflict… ruby's defined? call, shouldn't conflict | ||
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| [2012/01/18 15:00:02] <IndyMichaelB> I have a new node that ensures an enormous number of files from puppet, more then all the other nodes in my environment combined. I'm using passenger by the way. Subsequent puppet runs are failing while checking those files, I believe timing out, with the error "err: Could not run Puppet configuration client: execution expired". I don't see a timeout value in puppet.conf … am I looking in the wrong place? | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:01:49] <aricg> IndyMichaelB You probably want too look into a different way of syncing those files. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 15:04:47] <themadcanudist> in the ruby dsl what's the best way to check to see if a Class was previously defined (parse-order). In the puppet DSL calling defined() is sufficient. When I do that in ruby DSL, it always returns false. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 15:09:21] <IndyMichaelB> aricg: ok, thanks, will rsync or auto mount them or something | ||
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| [2012/01/18 15:22:01] <jsm> fun error of the day: "err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Could not intern from pson: Could not convert from pson: Could not find relationship target "Package[]" | ||
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| [2012/01/18 15:26:18] <Dominic> jsm: usually means you're doing Package[$foo] somewhere and foo is an empty string. Debugging it is a nightmare usually :( | ||
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| [2012/01/18 15:27:39] <jsm> Dominic: thanks for the tip | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:28:19] <Dominic> I'd try and find places where you use that sort of syntax, failing that do a bisection search and remove half the classes from your node at a time to narrow it down! | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:29:04] <jsm> Dominic: i'm lucky, found it already :) thanks again | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:29:14] <themadcanudist> anyone know how to ask puppet via ruby dsl how to check to see if a resource/module was defined (parse-order)? In the puppet dsl i use defined() which works like a charm | ||
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| [2012/01/18 15:29:26] <Dominic> jsm: ah, you're very lucky. I've seen people in here lose hours to it :) | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:29:47] <themadcanudist> when i call defined ['Class["module"]'] it always returns false in ruby dsl | ||
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| [2012/01/18 15:35:55] <shadowvice> So Im trying to organize some modules into a standard convention that makes sense and prevents headaches down the way. I have a security.pp that includes a lot of different small classes that are all relative to the security modules but specific to one OS. Outside of creating a sub directory for each of the 7 classes or placing them within the init.pp, how can I get the classes to be loaded? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 15:40:33] <themadcanudist> ok, how about this one: using scope.functions_template("module/template.erb") within an ERB template fails… it tells me that it fails to collect "module/template.erb":String | ||
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| [2012/01/18 15:40:52] <themadcanudist> this is clearly documented, yet it doesn't work. | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:40:53] <themadcanudist> =( | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:42:11] <jsm> shadowvice: you could have your classes in a modules/security/firewall.pp modules/security/permissions.pp etc | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:42:29] <jsm> shadowvice: and then you'd address it via security::firewall, security::permissions, etc | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:42:48] <jsm> the naming is automatic and magic :) | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:44:54] <shadowvice> jsm: Thanks... that's what I was looking at but hoping for a one file solution. It just doesn't sound like that would really be possible | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:45:25] <jsm> shadowvice: one file solution is just messy | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:45:28] <jsm> too much in one place | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:45:44] <hezekiah_> I have a unicorn puppet master questions | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:45:47] <jsm> i'd do a class per file | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:46:44] <shadowvice> Thanks jsm! | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:47:05] <hezekiah_> anyone running puppet masters with unicorn? | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:47:54] <ashp> So, I've been using foreman for a awhile to manage machines as well as DHCP entries but I realized a bunch of our legacy stuff requires multiple ip's added as aliases and all sorts. | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:48:08] <ashp> How do the rest of you handle that stuff, force it into dhcp too and dhcp the aliases as well? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 15:57:29] <shortbus-> Dominic / l0n: so i've tried about everything i can think of and i can't get past that kernel/ruby bug from yesterday. i've updated to 5.7 with kernel 2.6.18-274.17.1.el5, which supposedly have the fix and it still hangs. i even tried a newer 2.6.18-304.el5 kernel from people.redhat.com, and the test still fails. | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:58:11] <shortbus-> in the bugzilla it says that it only happens when ruby does multithreading, is there a way to force ruby/puppet clients not to multithread? | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:58:24] <Dominic> shortbus-: that's worrying. is it the test that's failing, or puppet? | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:58:39] <shortbus-> both | ||
| [2012/01/18 15:58:52] <Dominic> hm | ||
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| [2012/01/18 15:59:58] <shortbus-> out of pure desperation i'm downloading centos 6.2, but i'd rather not have to upgrade major revs to get puppet working | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:00:16] <laudo> I have one host which does not apply any changeds. puppet runs in 0.06 sec. It worked one day ago. Any idea why this can happen? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 16:03:21] <joe-mac1> what version are you on | ||
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| [2012/01/18 16:07:58] <laudo> joe-mac1: 2.6.4 | ||
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| [2012/01/18 16:20:19] <[diecast]> if i set <%= something %> in a template, am i able to set it in the node with $something = "blah" | ||
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| [2012/01/18 16:22:25] <Asako> is there a way to do a reverse onlyif ? | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:22:36] <Dominic> Asako: unless | ||
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| [2012/01/18 16:23:56] <Asako> thanks | ||
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| [2012/01/18 16:28:04] <hezekiah_> how do I make puppet master see changes to the config file | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:29:36] <Asako> it reads it constantly | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:29:52] <hezekiah_> ok. I thought it did when running stand alone | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:29:53] <Asako> restart it if you want | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:29:57] <hezekiah_> it does not do this when running in unicorn | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:30:05] <the_ramink> hezekiah_: to puppet.conf? restart/reload the process unless you're using the webrick based puppetmasterd stuff which monitors the file. | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:30:09] <hezekiah_> is there something I have not conifgured? | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:30:33] <Asako> or send it a SIGHUP | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:30:34] <hezekiah_> I am running the puppetmaster in unicorn | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:30:45] <hezekiah_> the puppetmaster rack app | ||
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| [2012/01/18 16:31:36] <the_ramink> then restart/reload unicorn | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:31:50] <hezekiah_> yes. I was hoping to not have to do that. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 16:32:12] <hezekiah_> is the monitoring of the file only something in the webrick based puppetmaster and not in the rack app? | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:34:19] <Asako> we use mongrel for it | ||
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| [2012/01/18 16:34:38] <hezekiah_> yeah. I may have to switch back to mongrel | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:34:48] <hezekiah_> I didn't think something like this would be in one implementation and not the other | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:34:55] <the_ramink> hezekiah_: as far as I understand. This of it as a vhost config. You can change the site code, but changes to the vhost require a restart. Works the same with Passenger. I'm curious what you're changind in your puppet.conf. Once you've set it, not much shoudl change. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 16:35:54] <hezekiah_> I have an environment where I allow users to dynamically create new environments (which then have new and specific module paths) | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:36:15] <hezekiah_> so that requires changes to (I have separated the puppet master config) puppetmaster.conf | ||
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| [2012/01/18 16:36:36] <hezekiah_> my external node classifier sets the environment based on data from our cmdb | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:37:31] <hezekiah_> so a devops can create an environment, create a new server (in openstack) which will spin up and be in that new environment, which the devops can use to develope and test puppet class changes without impacting anything/anyone else | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:37:44] <hezekiah_> all this is automatical. | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:37:45] <Dominic> hezekiah_: if it helps, you can use $environment when defining a modulepath and manifest settings in puppet.conf, so you can avoid editing puppet.conf on the master if your modules/manifests are in the same filesystem structure | ||
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| [2012/01/18 16:37:58] <hezekiah_> I can't use that and still have good inhertince | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:37:59] <hezekiah_> ance | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:38:05] <hezekiah_> I had wanted to do that | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:38:20] <hezekiah_> but that requires a non-dynamic module inheritance | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:38:40] <hezekiah_> this system allows the devops to create a new environment and define the 'paren't environment | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:39:53] <hezekiah_> then the module path has the correct ordering of environments | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:40:22] <hezekiah_> I really liked using the $environment in the modulepath concept. but I can't have different length module paths with that | ||
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| [2012/01/18 16:42:06] <Asako> will subscribe on an exec work? | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:42:23] <hezekiah_> ? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 16:42:57] <Asako> http://pastebin.com/hAidRFMw this isn't quite working how I want | ||
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| [2012/01/18 16:43:08] <Asako> maybe I need to take out the refreshonly | ||
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| [2012/01/18 16:44:11] <the_ramink> Asako: yeah remove it from your first exec, your unless => statement will keep it from rerunning | ||
| [2012/01/18 16:44:12] <Dominic> the refreshonly on line 5 doesn't make sense, unless it's notified from somewhere else | ||
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| [2012/01/18 16:44:27] <Asako> ok | ||
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| [2012/01/18 16:44:41] <Asako> it would be notified by the package | ||
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| [2012/01/18 16:45:48] <Asako> monit isn't working any way, sigh | ||
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| [2012/01/18 17:16:57] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Internal_Development_Process (#88) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Internal_Development_Process?version=88 (by Daniel Pittman) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 17:21:56] <Text> Hi, I am trying to port a class into my WAR class. Here's a descrition of what I am doing: http://pastebin.com/Kv182aFZ Anyone have a minute to look at this with me? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 17:22:57] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Engineering_done_done (#12) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Engineering_done_done?version=12 (by Jeff McCune) | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:25:48] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Downloading_Puppet (#138) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Downloading_Puppet?version=138 (by Michael Stahnke) | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:27:02] <cwebber> is there currently a good reference puppet server module? | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:27:11] <cwebber> and client module for that matter? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 17:31:09] <torrancew> So, let's assume that for a reason beyond my control, I have to forcefully install a 32 bit apache on a 64 bit debian. Can puppet help me without dropping down into a maze of file and exec resources? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 17:34:24] <cwebber> torrancew: hmmmm... you should be able to just specify the i386 pkg and have puppet pick it up | ||
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| [2012/01/18 17:34:49] <pdtpatrick> assuming it is the repo | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:35:18] <torrancew> Well, the package is in the standard debian repo. You're saying I should be able to just specify the full version string from the package? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 17:35:25] <torrancew> for the record, has anyone successfully done this? | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:35:40] <stahnma> PSA: puppet 2.7.10rc1 available at downloads.puppetlabs.com. Release notes: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Release_Notes#2.7.10rc1 | ||
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| [2012/01/18 17:37:24] <pdtpatrick> torrancew: without using puppet - how would u have otherwise installed it ? | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:37:44] <pdtpatrick> apt-get install <full-packagename> ? | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:38:00] <pdtpatrick> have you tried it and see if there's a dependency problem? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 17:38:10] <pdtpatrick> you can run apt-rdepends <packagename> | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:38:51] <torrancew> pdtpatrick: without puppet, I pulled down the .debs and ran dpkg -i --force-architecture | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:39:05] <torrancew> As apt tries to pull the package for your architecture | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:39:15] <torrancew> but I will give that a go on the other node | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:39:15] <pdtpatrick> i thought you said it was in the standard repo ? | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:39:25] <pdtpatrick> you can specify a different repo with -t | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:39:28] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Engineering_done_done (#13) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Engineering_done_done?version=13 (by Jeff McCune) | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:39:28] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Release_Notes (#164) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Release_Notes?version=164 (by Michael Stahnke) | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:39:46] <pdtpatrick> apt-get -t backports install apache | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:39:57] <pdtpatrick> or whatever the repo is called the package is in | ||
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| [2012/01/18 17:40:31] <torrancew> pdtpatrick: it's not a repo issue, it's an architecture issue | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:40:41] <torrancew> -t is for specifying which release the package should come from IIRC | ||
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| [2012/01/18 17:40:56] <torrancew> but in my case, I need to tell apt "forget that you're 64-bit, grab this package via 32 bit" | ||
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| [2012/01/18 17:41:07] <torrancew> regardless, will try the full package name when I wrap up the current task | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:41:09] <torrancew> thanks for the tip | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:41:12] <pdtpatrick> what I'm asking is -- if you were not going to use puppy, do you have to use dpkg -i or apt-get .. do they install smoothly or do u have to force it ? | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:41:34] <torrancew> I have to use dpkg -i when doing so manually, and I have to --force-architecture | ||
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| [2012/01/18 17:42:23] <pdtpatrick> i think (AFAIK) package will use apt-get. So you might have to use exec with whatever options you used. I would recommend testing this on a sandbox | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:43:11] <torrancew> pdtpatrick: yeah, that's what I'll be doing | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:43:15] <torrancew> this is all in a dev env anyway | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:43:21] <torrancew> bloody terrible vendor packages | ||
| [2012/01/18 17:43:31] <pdtpatrick> sorry to hear | ||
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| [2012/01/18 17:43:53] <torrancew> not your fault, mate (I hope not, anyway XD ) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 17:56:36] <multiverse> Hello, I'm looking for a little advice on this issue: http://pastebin.com/Kv182aFZ | ||
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| [2012/01/18 18:38:58] <noakes> is there a nice pattern for applying conditionals to a file where it can be either a 'source' or a 'content' - i.e. a hardcoded file or a template | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:38:59] <noakes> ? | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:39:08] <noakes> I have it implemented as: | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:39:15] <noakes> if $variable { | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:39:35] <noakes> file {"blah": content => template } | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:39:37] <noakes> else { | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:39:49] <noakes> file {"blah": source => file } | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:39:57] <noakes> but all the other file attributes are duplicated | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:40:07] <noakes> so was hoping to 'inline' the if/else into the file def | ||
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| [2012/01/18 18:40:28] <noakes> was wondering if you can assign the entire source/content line to a variable | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:40:38] <noakes> and then use the variable within the file def? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 18:41:56] <torrancew> noakes: you can do that. You can also do this: http://pastebin.com/TMk9U2Vs | ||
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| [2012/01/18 18:42:54] <noakes> @torrancew - nice - wasn't sure if you could have an undef attribute - probably should have spiked that before asking - thanks for the quick answer | ||
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| [2012/01/18 18:43:24] <the_ramink> noakes: generally conditionals within resources are frowned upon as hard to read, not good style. Seems simpler to just have a template and deal with any fanciness there. | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:43:32] <mrooney> whack: I liked your slides on masterless/nodeless puppet, I was just wondering if you still recommended it or if you ran into any big issues, as I was thinking about moving to it | ||
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| [2012/01/18 18:44:41] * Volcane 's just busy moving to same | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:44:56] <torrancew> noakes: a define I have that does something similar can be found here: http://code.sudobangbang.org/puppet-runit.git/HEAD/blob/manifests%2Fservice.pp | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:44:59] <Volcane> 1) you'll need to make some tooling of your own for runs etc, few scripts, cron job or 2 etc | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:45:08] <Volcane> 2) it doesnt write classes.txt | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:45:27] <noakes> @the_ramink - looked into doing that, but the contents of the file are such that if I template it, almost every line will land up becoming a variable for the template and not very happy with how that balloons out the definition | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:45:30] <mrooney> Volcane: yeah, I'm pretty much there, already have "node default { include $custom_fact_classname }" | ||
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| [2012/01/18 18:45:54] <mrooney> and bootstrapping machines via wgetting the manifests from s3 and using puppet apply | ||
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| [2012/01/18 18:46:12] <mrooney> just need the cron + reporting to be the equivalent of the puppet agent I guess | ||
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| [2012/01/18 18:46:51] <Volcane> and ofcourse you need to be happy that all machines have the code | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:47:56] <mrooney> yeah, indeed | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:49:21] <Volcane> biggest pain is i already have a setup built for masters | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:49:32] <Volcane> refactored 4k puppet lines of code in the last 4 nights, sigh | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:49:39] @ Quit: fubada: Ping timeout: 240 seconds | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:51:17] <mrooney> ah, I didn't have to change anything, you can still puppet:/// and such | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:51:45] <mrooney> but if you have it set up to assume you can auth securely / pull secure things for only certain nodes, then it can take some refactoring | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:52:11] <Volcane> yeah, my manifests have been dragging along over many years so lots of weird shit | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:52:19] <Volcane> I've been removing cruft too etc | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:52:23] <mrooney> ah yeah, definitely makes sense | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:52:49] <the_ramink> noakes: you'd use the same method in your template. If something == then this template block, else this static text | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:52:56] <mrooney> I just started an infrastructure from scratch so I got to do all the things I wished I had done after using it for a year at my last job | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:53:14] <Volcane> % find . -name \*.pp|xargs wc -l | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:53:15] <Volcane> 12431 total | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:53:21] <Volcane> :( | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:53:52] <|Mike|> That's a lot! | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:53:57] <mrooney> 251 total haha | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:54:06] <noakes> @the_ramink - I see what you mean - don't have variables for the template but do the if/else in the template with the variable that already exists | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:54:28] <noakes> will try both approaches and see what works better | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:54:33] <noakes> thanks for all the help | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:54:44] <torrancew> noakes: it's worth mentioning that my module uses the stdlib from PL | ||
| [2012/01/18 18:54:51] <the_ramink> noakes: sure, <% if has_variable?("my_variable_that_is_set") then -%> | ||
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| [2012/01/18 19:03:00] <aknapp> Volcane: damn, that's a lot of lines of puppet code. I have ~4k, and I though that was a lot. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 19:04:26] <noakes> @Volcane: how many nodes are you managing? | ||
| [2012/01/18 19:04:35] <Volcane> noakes: 50ish | ||
| [2012/01/18 19:04:43] <Volcane> noakes: but very varied | ||
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| [2012/01/18 19:05:18] <noakes> yeah, wonder if there are any puppet metrics type stuff - i.e. complexity of nodes => puppetlines/nodes | ||
| [2012/01/18 19:05:37] <noakes> modules/node, etc... | ||
| [2012/01/18 19:05:39] <Harzilein> Volcane: was about to ask, 50ish but not really supporting just one "project"/"entity"? | ||
| [2012/01/18 19:06:01] <Harzilein> with entity i mean something like a department in a company | ||
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| [2012/01/18 19:07:32] <Volcane> no, its generic hosting for lots of customers all different and different stacks | ||
| [2012/01/18 19:07:42] <Harzilein> Volcane: aah :) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 19:08:33] <eskp> Duplicate definition: File[/var/lib/moin/common/underlay] is already defined in file /opt/puppet/modules/moin/manifests/wiki.pp at line 30; cannot redefine at /opt/puppet/modules/moin/manifests/wiki.pp:30 on node zoidberg | ||
| [2012/01/18 19:08:44] <eskp> hmmm | ||
| [2012/01/18 19:08:51] <Volcane> eskp: defines must make unique resources | ||
| [2012/01/18 19:09:16] <eskp> oh of course | ||
| [2012/01/18 19:09:23] <eskp> thanks | ||
| [2012/01/18 19:10:13] <mosen> Volcane do you write providers occasionally? | ||
| [2012/01/18 19:10:19] <Volcane> nope | ||
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| [2012/01/18 19:10:35] <mosen> ok :) difficult to find in depth doco | ||
| [2012/01/18 19:11:10] <Harzilein> hmm. but there _is_ official docs on it afaict | ||
| [2012/01/18 19:11:23] <Harzilein> just today i looked just what makes an "ensurable" | ||
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| [2012/01/18 19:11:57] <whack> mrooney: I still like masterless, yes. Though using exported resources with it is pretty messy. I think exported resources are messa nyway | ||
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| [2012/01/18 19:59:02] <basic`> does puppet have a package ensure => '>= some.version-834' | ||
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| [2012/01/18 20:20:01] <czervik> Is anyone familiar with vim-puppet on ubuntu? I installed the package but am not getting any syntax highlighting for pp files | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:20:17] <pdtpatrick> is it in .vim ? | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:20:21] <pdtpatrick> use pathogen btw | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:20:31] <czervik> pathogen? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 20:20:53] <pdtpatrick> http://addisu.taddese.com/blog/using-github-and-pathogen-for-your-vim-config-files/ | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:20:59] <pdtpatrick> and after you've installed that | ||
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| [2012/01/18 20:21:10] <pdtpatrick> then clone the vim-puppet repo from github | ||
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| [2012/01/18 20:21:25] <pdtpatrick> and then put that folder in ~/.vim/bundles/ | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:21:25] <czervik> tks pdtpatrick | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:21:40] <pdtpatrick> or just cd ~/.vim/bundles && git clone <reponame> | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:21:45] <pdtpatrick> you're welcome | ||
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| [2012/01/18 20:30:01] <|Majestic|> Good morning yawns... I beleive ive found a bug but wanted to check first. I am adjusting sshd_config via augeas. Paste here: http://pastie.org/3210930 which this works great on debian based systems but if this is ran on Redhat based (centos) it says that its run sucessfuly but it hasnt. Will post the debug output in a sec. I have manauly tried to change the paramaters via augtool and that works fine. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 20:32:04] <|Majestic|> http://pastie.org/3210938 | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:33:08] <bob2> where do you define "hasnt" | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:33:15] <bob2> just "it didn't make the change"? | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:33:28] <|Majestic|> config wasnt updated | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:33:37] <|Majestic|> didnt make the change.. seemed it didnt try | ||
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| [2012/01/18 20:33:57] <|Majestic|> [root@dev2(~)> grep -i port /etc/ssh/sshd_config | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:33:57] <|Majestic|> #Port 22 | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:33:57] <|Majestic|> #GatewayPorts no | ||
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| [2012/01/18 20:34:27] <|Majestic|> augtool shows | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:34:37] <|Majestic|> ./files/etc/ssh/sshd_config/#comment[9] = "Port 22" | ||
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| [2012/01/18 20:35:28] <|Majestic|> if I change it via augtool that works fine | ||
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| [2012/01/18 20:35:33] <pipegeek> Where do properties get evaluated: on the client side, or on the puppet master? It seems like types ought to live on the server side (since they do things like validate arguments) but properties (which are declared in type definitions) have methods which expect to be run on the client side, like retrieve(). | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:35:36] <|Majestic|> as in manualy | ||
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| [2012/01/18 20:36:33] <|Majestic|> hum... thats a good question.. first time ive been playing with aug... whats weird is its working fine with debian | ||
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| [2012/01/18 20:37:02] <eric0> pipegeek: the master does some loading of types and providres, but its just syntax afaik -- all provider suitability and the actual processing happens on the client | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:37:13] <|Majestic|> I assume looking at debug - puppet server talks to client and says run arg providor with X cmd | ||
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| [2012/01/18 20:37:43] <mfridh> the puppet-common module -- I can install it as a normal module right, and not have to do it in manifests/site.pp ? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 20:39:43] <pipegeek> eric0: I see. So, do any methods (the block that's passed into munge, for instance) get called on the master, or is the only way to execute code on the master via puppet manifests and parser functions? | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:41:32] <pipegeek> eric0: as in, which (if any) methods in the type get called at compile time? | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:43:02] <eric0> pipegeek: nothing in the actual type code gets exeuted on the master -- you've got it right that manifest code and parser functions are your server-side tools. | ||
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| [2012/01/18 20:43:17] <eric0> pipegeek: whats the specific thing you're trying to suss out? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 20:45:23] <pipegeek> eric0: I'd like to check a master database on the master that maps usernames to UIDs when defining users. It looks like the best (only) way to do this is in a parser function (something like get_uid(username)) and pass the result into a user {} resource definition, rather than having a custom 'stable_user' type that handles it magically | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:45:25] <|Majestic|> maybe onto something | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:45:41] <pipegeek> which is fine with me. I just wanted to make sure I understood what was what. | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:46:05] <pipegeek> I was confused because types that are defined using 'define' in puppet manifests have a server-side component | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:46:31] <|Majestic|> http://pastie.org/3210977 - this is what should happen.. snapshot from debian run. looks like maybe aug isnt installed with puppet on centos... looking more at it... | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:46:37] <pipegeek> well, actually, they're entirely server-side | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:48:06] <pipegeek> and naturally providers have to execute on the client, but I had hoped that the validation/argument munging part of types happened at catalog compile time | ||
| [2012/01/18 20:48:13] <eric0> pipegeek: yes a parser function would absolutely be a good way to that lookup -- you might generalize it if you have a real infra db that stores that sort of thing $uid= get_db_value("uid","some_user") | ||
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| [2012/01/18 20:51:36] <pipegeek> cool. Thanks, eric0 | ||
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| [2012/01/18 20:58:57] <|Majestic|> yea looks like a bug sighs - oh well I have to do a check if not debian then use an exec and do it that way sighs | ||
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| [2012/01/18 21:23:41] <pipegeek> Does anyone know what the timeframe for http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/2624 is? It'd be nice to have parser functions live in the namespace of the module in which they were defined | ||
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| [2012/01/18 21:46:19] <whack> pipegeek: best bet is to ask on that ticket | ||
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| [2012/01/18 21:49:47] <pipegeek> fair enough :) | ||
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| [2012/01/18 22:24:37] <scoates> hello | ||
| [2012/01/18 22:25:25] <scoates> if I `include "foo"` from within a class called `bar`, is there a scoping issue there? will it look for the bar module? or am I making a bad assumption? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 23:13:58] <eppa> 'lo | ||
| [2012/01/18 23:14:53] <eppa> if I'm making use of a 3rd party module in a manifest, do I have to install it on my puppetmaster seperately? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 23:18:16] <mosen> yep | ||
| [2012/01/18 23:18:22] <mosen> in the modules dir | ||
| [2012/01/18 23:18:51] <eppa> that's /var/lib/puppet/modules by default? | ||
| [2012/01/18 23:19:37] <eppa> or should I explicitely specify that in my puppet.conf? | ||
| [2012/01/18 23:19:58] <mosen> trying to remember, i specified my own | ||
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| [2012/01/18 23:22:44] <mosen> for some reason i have two different defaults.. maybe it changed between 2.6 and 2.7 | ||
| [2012/01/18 23:22:59] <mosen> or it could just be the distribution | ||
| [2012/01/18 23:24:10] <eppa> is one of them /var/lib/puppet/modules ? :) | ||
| [2012/01/18 23:24:50] <mosen> nope, haha | ||
| [2012/01/18 23:24:56] <eppa> hah | ||
| [2012/01/18 23:25:14] <mosen> /etc/puppet/modules and /usr/share/puppet/modules | ||
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| [2012/01/18 23:37:56] <johnw`> hello, I'm having major difficulties getting puppet 2.7.9 to work with puppet 1.9.3p0 on OpenIndiana | ||
| [2012/01/18 23:38:12] <johnw`> i finally got it all running, but I simply can't get SSL certificate negotiation to work between two clients | ||
| [2012/01/18 23:38:25] <johnw`> I get as far as this: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: SSL_connect returned=1 errno=0 state=SSLv3 read server certificate B: certificate verify failed. This is often because the time is out of sync on the server or client | ||
| [2012/01/18 23:38:33] <johnw`> after running: puppetd --server puppet.boostpro.com --waitforcert 60 --test | ||
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| [2012/01/18 23:39:55] <johnw> if I try: openssl s_client -connect puppet.boostpro.com:8140 | ||
| [2012/01/18 23:40:03] <johnw> it connects and tells me it's using a self-signed certificate | ||
| [2012/01/18 23:40:09] <johnw> so why can't puppet connect? | ||
| [2012/01/18 23:40:27] <johnw> I also followed the fixit suggested here: http://j.mp/w621RS | ||
| [2012/01/18 23:40:36] <johnw> "SSL Gotcha with Puppet and Ruby 1.9.2" | ||
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| [2012/01/18 23:43:10] <johnw> is it because hostname returns puppet.boostpro.com, but the certificate shows the CN as just puppet? | ||
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| [2012/01/18 23:47:02] <johnw> sorry, connect being spotty | ||
| [2012/01/18 23:47:27] <johnw> so, puppetd --test connects locally on the puppet master, but none of the 3 agents can connect, all with this same SSL error | ||
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| [2012/01/18 23:53:35] <bob2> yes you definitely want to fix your certs | ||
| [2012/01/18 23:55:07] <johnw> ok, trying my best to do that | ||
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| [2012/01/18 23:55:53] <johnw> i set the hostname to 'puppet', the cert is 'puppet', and --server is using 'puppet'. Now I'm getting "notice: Did not receive certificate", which I haven't seen before | ||
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| [2012/01/18 23:57:05] <johnw> the only host whose cert request I see in the queue is the one that's on the local network. I'll keep digging into this, thanks |
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