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[2012/01/22 01:45:09] <Dewin> Is there no better way to concatenate strings (without requiring assigning each string to a variable) besides sprintf? Namely for a define that constructs the 'command' part of an exec{} and needs to shellquote various (optional) arguments.
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[2012/01/22 01:49:08] <Dewin> I'd like to be able to do something like $command = "/usr/bin/ssh-keygen -t " + shellquote($type) + " " + $length ? {undef => "", default => "-b " + shellquote($length) } ...
[2012/01/22 01:49:20] <Dewin> but + doesn't work for concatenation and I don't see a documented operator that does
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[2012/01/22 03:04:17] <dissipate> i was able to get database replication working for mysql using this guide: http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-set-up-database-replication-in-mysql-on-ubuntu-9.10 i am now porting this to a puppet manifest. if i get it working using puppet is this worthy of putting in the wiki as a recipe?
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[2012/01/22 03:08:17] <tty00> dissipate: i have also tought of setting up a master-master replication with puppet recipe, and a couple of other services like ldap in mirror mode and mit kerberos servers
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[2012/01/22 03:10:19] <dissipate> tty00, i see. i got this setup on my Amazon EC2 instances so i can do nightly database backups without locking the tables on master.
[2012/01/22 03:10:52] <dissipate> the instructions i found seem to work for ubuntu, not sure about other distros. :/
[2012/01/22 03:11:15] <dissipate> wondering if it is wiki worthy
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[2012/01/22 03:29:19] <tty00> mysql configuration is not dist specific, the only thing that can change from one dist to another is the path to the configuration file
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[2012/01/22 03:52:26] <dissipate> tty00, that's good to know. i'm pretty new to sysadmin stuff and configuration management. my recipe might be less than perfect. :O
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[2012/01/22 03:55:15] <dissipate> it looks like the server that is going to be set up as the slave has to wait for the master to finish it's catalog run.
[2012/01/22 03:55:24] <dissipate> hmm
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[2012/01/22 04:05:29] <dissipate> is there a way to require a node in puppet? similar to classes.
[2012/01/22 04:05:45] <dissipate> i need a node to finish its catalog run before another node starts its catalog run.
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[2012/01/22 04:22:57] <whack> dissipate: there's been some work recently on doing cross-node coordination, you can use mcollective, noah, and other tools to help with this.
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[2012/01/22 04:28:31] <tty00> whack: what is noah?
[2012/01/22 04:28:43] <tty00> and how can puppet use it?
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[2012/01/22 04:29:18] <larstobi> tty00: http://blog.lusis.org/blog/2011/05/16/on-noah-part-1/
[2012/01/22 04:30:09] <larstobi> tty00: http://www.kartar.net/2011/05/puppet-noah/
[2012/01/22 04:30:51] <tty00> cool, thank you for the links :)
[2012/01/22 04:30:54] <larstobi> np
[2012/01/22 04:31:21] <dissipate> man, people really need to start using more unique names for software projects
[2012/01/22 04:31:33] <dissipate> googling 'noah' is going to bring up all kinds of Bible stuff
[2012/01/22 04:33:04] <dissipate> whack, i'm just going to code up a custom script and call it from the puppet manifest. not ideal, but it works.
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[2012/01/22 07:04:04] <Callek> dissipate: you can get (mostly) relevant results with: "Puppet Noah -bible -ark -toy -stuffed -show" in the google search box
[2012/01/22 07:05:25] <Callek> certainly a good mix of false positives
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[2012/01/22 07:12:36] <gdbc> Hi, how can i execute a module from inside another manifest?
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[2012/01/22 07:15:57] <gdbc> /module/class
[2012/01/22 07:17:28] <misc> what do you mean by "execute" ?
[2012/01/22 07:17:41] <misc> you can inclue it with include module::class
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[2012/01/22 07:18:58] <gdbc> misc: ta will try that. execute = include
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[2012/01/22 08:08:43] <smintz> hey guys, I have a configuration with multiple environments but all environments get files from the default environment (in file{"name": source => "puppet:///module/file.ext" }
[2012/01/22 08:08:48] <smintz> why is that?
[2012/01/22 08:08:55] <smintz> puppet 2.6
[2012/01/22 08:09:12] <misc> can you give more info, like the manifests you use ?
[2012/01/22 08:10:45] <smintz> well, I've took the base of example42 puppet repo, and then I created stage and prod environment
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[2012/01/22 08:11:29] <smintz> when I made changes in modules on prod, the prod machines get the right configurations
[2012/01/22 08:12:01] <smintz> but when prod machines trying to fetch a file, they always take them from stage :-/
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[2012/01/22 08:28:47] <techhelp> what's the difference between pe-httpd and puppetmasterd? Are they the same thing but for different versions of puppet?
[2012/01/22 08:30:02] <codec_> anyone familiar with the development lifecylce around?
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[2012/01/22 08:31:15] <Ashutto> risk
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[2012/01/22 08:43:43] <ken_barber> rodjek: you about?
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[2012/01/22 10:33:18] <|Majestic|> hiya, got a quick simple question, or what shoudl be simple ;) - I am trying to think of how I can exclude this class (pastie) http://pastie.org/3231312 from running on certain hosts.. in my case any hostname which has mail or mailq it must not touch/run. Any ideas how I could acompblish this? was thinking of if statments but dont seem to work within the auges stuff.
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[2012/01/22 10:36:16] <Dominic> if statements have nothing to do with augeas, you should be able to do it. the correct way though is not to *include* it in the first place, not creating exceptions
[2012/01/22 10:38:00] <|Majestic|> thanks Dominic. Issue is.. wanted the module added to add hosts which theres about 30 of them but 2 I did not want it added
[2012/01/22 10:38:39] <|Majestic|> thuoght of an exception - my thinking was wrong :) just seems dumb to add to 28 hosts
[2012/01/22 10:38:40] <|Majestic|> ;)
[2012/01/22 10:40:38] <Dominic> personally I'd enforce what it should be on those two hosts too, have a variable that's set depending on whether it's a mail relay or not (or whatever those two are)
[2012/01/22 10:41:02] <|Majestic|> got ya ty!
[2012/01/22 10:41:30] <|Majestic|> so if veriable is set then do the class got ya
[2012/01/22 10:42:37] <Dominic> or do the class always, but set the value between loopback-only and the other value
[2012/01/22 10:43:28] <|Majestic|> got ya
[2012/01/22 10:44:04] <|Majestic|> working on that now thank you.
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[2012/01/22 11:41:37] <|Majestic|> Dominic: fyi resolved this way http://pastie.org/3231678 thanks again.
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[2012/01/22 11:42:16] <|Majestic|> bit delayed - been busy on phone :( just got off was only 30 sec change ;)
[2012/01/22 11:43:28] <|Majestic|> now to expand on module now that the bit which worried me is sorted.
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[2012/01/22 11:47:11] <codec_> can someone point me to docs about the magic that happens in providers?
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[2012/01/22 11:51:01] <Dominic> |Majestic|: looks good
[2012/01/22 11:51:25] <|Majestic|> thxs
[2012/01/22 11:51:46] <|Majestic|> should of thought of that though :) cheers for the tips
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[2012/01/22 11:57:04] <misc> codec_: like http://www.kartar.net/2010/02/puppet-types-and-providers-are-easy/ ?
[2012/01/22 11:57:52] <sarguru__> misc: This is what I need though. Thanks :)
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[2012/01/22 12:01:45] <codec_> misc: looks good, thank you
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[2012/01/22 12:13:21] <kvad32> hey guys i know this is a common question but its driving me crazy
[2012/01/22 12:13:29] <kvad32> one of my clients is not able to connect to the server node
[2012/01/22 12:13:31] <kvad32> err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: hostname was not match with the server certificate
[2012/01/22 12:13:34] <kvad32> warning: Not using cache on failed catalog
[2012/01/22 12:13:37] <kvad32> err: Could not retrieve catalog; skipping run
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[2012/01/22 12:13:46] <kvad32> i have googled for hours and still have issues
[2012/01/22 12:14:08] <kvad32> is the incorrect cert name on the server or the client. I'm not sure about this error
[2012/01/22 12:14:22] <misc> on the client, I think
[2012/01/22 12:15:10] <kvad32> so blowing out the ssldir and then puppet --test should work after i have cleaned the cert from the master server then correct?
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[2012/01/22 13:16:39] <illsci> hey I'm trying to capture facter output in python... and i'm failing...
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[2012/01/22 13:17:24] <illsci> it's using check_call and it returns the exit code... instead of the str output..
[2012/01/22 13:19:38] <illsci> hmm I guess I can just use check_output
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[2012/01/22 13:43:29] <Dewin> Is there a better way to construct a bunch of commandline arguments to a program besides this? http://pastebin.com/wBM9gfpA It feels like there really ought to be...
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[2012/01/22 19:11:53] <thansen> what's the proper way to have a file that's ensured as a directory that will create all necessary parent dirs?
[2012/01/22 19:12:07] <thansen> ie, mkdir -p
[2012/01/22 19:12:24] <bob2> make them and require them
[2012/01/22 19:13:11] <misc> the requires are added automatically
[2012/01/22 19:13:12] <thansen> ok, so I just need to define all the subdirs as 'file' declarations as well?
[2012/01/22 19:13:53] <bob2> misc, is that new?
[2012/01/22 19:13:54] <thansen> http://pastebin.com/VJLNntE9
[2012/01/22 19:14:08] <thansen> is doesn't get any prettier than that eh?
[2012/01/22 19:15:03] <misc> bob2: new, I do not think so, but that's not much documented ( ie "puppet will do the right stuff by default" in the documentation )
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[2012/01/22 19:16:08] <bob2> hmmm
[2012/01/22 19:16:10] <thansen> well, the bottom file there was failing before defining the top one in my example
[2012/01/22 19:16:17] <bob2> I thought I had tried that and failed
[2012/01/22 19:16:27] <thansen> because the parent dir didn't exist
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[2012/01/22 19:18:37] <thansen> even with recurse => true, it still failed
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[2012/01/22 19:29:30] <haus> thansen: two relevant pages...(https://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/86) and (https://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/6368)
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[2012/01/22 19:29:57] <haus> recurse => true won't create parent directories
[2012/01/22 19:30:08] <thansen> haus: I gotta jet, but I'll take a look and report back
[2012/01/22 19:30:19] <haus> cool
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[2012/01/22 20:51:10] <eskp> hey guys, can i override manifest variables in nodes.pp?
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[2012/01/22 21:45:56] <hacim> i'm having a strange problem with a node:
[2012/01/22 21:45:56] <hacim> err: Package[logtail](provider=apt): Could not find latest version
[2012/01/22 21:45:56] <hacim> notice: /Stage[main]/Logcheck/Package[logtail]/ensure: ensure changed '1.3.13' to 'latest'
[2012/01/22 21:46:10] <hacim> it can't seem to find the 'latest version' and keeps doing that on every run
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[2012/01/22 22:11:25] <zak007> y
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[2012/01/22 22:35:25] <rtyler> IS THIS WHERE I COME FOR JUJU SUPPORT?
[2012/01/22 22:35:29] * rtyler giggles
[2012/01/22 22:37:21] <rtyler> in all seriousness, does cucumber-puppet work for 2.7 yet? I read a note on that here: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/ci-modules/wiki
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[2012/01/22 22:39:06] <haus> https://github.com/nistude/cucumber-puppet/commit/41cfdb588b7bf16c235c01241df36aa77e0e5f1b
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[2012/01/22 22:39:29] <haus> yes, it does
[2012/01/22 22:40:07] <haus> i'll update the wiki
[2012/01/22 22:40:44] <rtyler> ignoring the bit about guard, does vagrant + cucumber-puppet still make a whole lot of sense? http://www.jedi.be/blog/2011/12/13/testdriven-infrastructure-with-vagrant-puppet-guard/
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[2012/01/22 23:06:35] <techhelp> how do you print a message to the screen in puppet?
[2012/01/22 23:07:11] <bob2> http://www.puppetcookbook.com/posts/simple-debug-messages.html
[2012/01/22 23:07:16] <bob2> note: for debugging
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