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| [2012/01/24 00:48:56] <checkers> I keep getting this error from our puppet installs: notice: /Stage[main]/Snmpd/Service[snmpd]/ensure: ensure changed 'stopped' to 'running' | ||
| [2012/01/24 00:49:38] <checkers> oh, I think I see | ||
| [2012/01/24 00:50:56] <checkers> (service: hasstatus' default changed from false->true in 2.7) | ||
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| [2012/01/24 00:57:31] <checkers> hm, is it a known issue that 2.7.1 puppetmasters give super weird client errors for 30secs after restarting? | ||
| [2012/01/24 00:57:37] <checkers> because my test is | ||
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| [2012/01/24 01:18:45] <sarguru_> errors liike? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 01:31:30] <checkers> can't find the first class I include as a submodule, ie 'ssh::auth' | ||
| [2012/01/24 01:31:43] <checkers> but it finds previous lines like 'include logrotate' just fine | ||
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| [2012/01/24 02:40:55] <adam-_-> what affects whether a command logs? I have an exec that I've set to logoutput but I'm not seeing anything. If I run the command locally it'll definitely spew info | ||
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| [2012/01/24 02:52:03] <rodjek> adam-_-: what'd you set logoutput to? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 02:52:15] <adam-_-> true | ||
| [2012/01/24 02:54:10] <rodjek> adam-_-: works here, what version of puppet? | ||
| [2012/01/24 02:54:31] <adam-_-> well it works with all my other execs, it's just this one in particular, quite strange.. | ||
| [2012/01/24 02:54:46] <rodjek> can you pastebin the exec that isn't working? | ||
| [2012/01/24 02:54:55] <checkers> does output over stdout/err get handled differently? I don't know myself | ||
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| [2012/01/24 02:57:11] <adam-_-> rodjek: http://hastebin.com/fuviqocame.vbs | ||
| [2012/01/24 03:00:09] <rodjek> unquote the true for logoutput and try again | ||
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| [2012/01/24 03:01:17] <adam-_-> alright, will do when this run timesout | ||
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| [2012/01/24 03:49:28] <KaZeR_W> hi there | ||
| [2012/01/24 03:49:52] <KaZeR_W> are packages names case sensitive using rhel? phpmyadmin doesn't work (package not found), phpMyAdmin does work | ||
| [2012/01/24 03:50:16] <KaZeR_W> is that expected? when using yum directly, the commands are case insensitives... | ||
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| [2012/01/24 03:52:34] <rodjek> KaZeR_W: yes, they are case sensitive | ||
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| [2012/01/24 03:53:13] <misc> KaZeR_W: yes, that's a bug, ie puppet give the package name to yum who is case insensitive, but check with rpm -q, who is case sensitive | ||
| [2012/01/24 03:53:52] <rodjek> i like to think that the fact that yum isn't case sensitive is the bug | ||
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| [2012/01/24 04:15:29] <KaZeR_W> thanks guys | ||
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| [2012/01/24 04:15:47] <KaZeR_W> rodjek, why the package search should be case sensitive? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 04:18:08] <rodjek> because everything else is | ||
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| [2012/01/24 04:24:51] <KaZeR_W> rodjek, yes, but the package names depends of the distro. for example, under gentoo it's phpmyadmin. Then a class using this package would need a condition, just because of the case. it's not really convenient, is it? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 04:26:21] <rodjek> well, it could also be completely different for debian | ||
| [2012/01/24 04:26:28] <rodjek> so you still need to have some logic there | ||
| [2012/01/24 04:28:05] <KaZeR_W> i agree that the logic is required if the package name really differs, but it's maybe overkill if it's only the case. well, it's just my own opinion :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 04:28:50] <rodjek> if yum is actually case insensitive, then you could just put the capitalised version and both would be happy, no? | ||
| [2012/01/24 04:29:21] <rodjek> but still, use logic | ||
| [2012/01/24 04:29:31] <rodjek> to determine the correct package name | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:08:37] <artkrz> hey guys, i'm looking for the easiest way to add another master to my environment, i have modules and manifests in git + certificates signed on one box, what' s my options ? i'm looking at this: http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/1/wiki/Multiple_Certificate_Authorities but it's a bit old | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:09:01] <artkrz> i would like to sign certificates on 1 master but serve catalogs from both | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:11:31] <eric0> set --ca_server=puppetmaster1 on bootstrap | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:11:40] <aberdine_> Hi artkrz. Have you tried syncing the CA folder to the second server and see if they are recognised? | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:11:51] <artkrz> no | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:12:20] <artkrz> i think there's an option in agent to say who's cert authority but i'm not sure | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:12:24] <artkrz> trying to find it now | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:12:26] <eric0> --ca_server | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:13:04] <eric0> alternately you can put the same CA cert on both of them and edit 'serial' on the 2nd one to be a very big number | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:13:27] <eric0> that way they wont issue overlapping serials but will trust the ones issued by each other | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:13:55] <artkrz> i would prefer to sign them on one master, but be able to serve catalogs from both | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:15:13] <artkrz> i'm trying to find documentation about scaling master | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:16:01] <_rc> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/scaling.html | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:16:19] <sarguru_> artkrz: Why dont you use passenger + proxy loadbalancing | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:16:41] <artkrz> don't you still need multiple masters for that ? | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:17:11] <sarguru_> You dont have to go through certificate hassles for that | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:17:44] <eric0> srsly, the easiest thing to do is just set the commandline option --ca_server or pre-seed your puppet.conf with that same option | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:18:19] <artkrz> eric0: ok, but what do I add to 'slave' master config ? | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:18:33] <artkrz> how do I control who's allowed to pull catalogs out of it ? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:20:52] <eric0> as long as it uses the same $localcacert as the clients do, and that is the issuing CA's cert, it will verify clients issued by the other master without a problem | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:21:34] <artkrz> k, so basically i have to transfer master cert from master master to slave master ? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:22:24] <eric0> the cert has to get there but running it as a client one time will do that | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:22:59] <artkrz> so you say I connect slave master to master as client and then start using it as master ? | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:23:02] <eric0> man i just had this discussion a week ago with somebody. probably means i should write it up | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:23:14] <eric0> yeah | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:23:24] <artkrz> there isn't good docs on this :( | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:23:28] <eric0> http://www.masterzen.fr/2010/11/14/puppet-ssl-explained/ | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:23:52] <artkrz> that's a good blog, have some posts in the pipeline there | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:24:06] <eric0> brice=mega awesome | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:24:12] <masterzen> artkrz: more to come (as soon as I find time) | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:24:20] <masterzen> eric0: thanks :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:24:23] <eric0> :D | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:24:42] <masterzen> eric0: shouldn't you be sleeping at that time? | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:24:45] <artkrz> masterzen: you're doing awesome job, i'm trying to find time to read puppet internals | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:25:33] <artkrz> would you guys say going masterless is better approach, we have already got around 500 agents and 1 master = sic | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:26:09] <eric0> masterzen: yes i should. i just finished work :P it is 0225. i have a nice Belgian beer in front of me and when it is gone, i am gone. | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:26:32] <matti> Hi eric0 | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:26:32] <masterzen> artkrz: masterless has some issues IMHO. Like you push all your manifests on all your nodes. I'm not confident to leave all my configs everywhere... YMMV | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:26:34] <matti> masterzen: :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:26:39] <masterzen> matti: hi | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:27:04] <artkrz> masterzen: yep, that would be the case | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:27:07] <masterzen> eric0: there's no reason to sleep if you drink a Belgian beer :) | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:27:23] <masterzen> eric0: next week == Fossdem == plenty of Belgian beers for me :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:27:53] <matti> Heh | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:27:56] <masterzen> artkrz: and you loose reports, too. | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:27:56] <matti> FOSDEM ;] | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:28:09] <matti> masterzen: THey should rename it to European Geek Beer-fest ;] | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:28:21] <masterzen> matti: definitely | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:28:30] <eric0> artkrz: no i like client->server, it scales fine. i have (2 servers / 5000 clients) x 3 data centers | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:28:32] <artkrz> masterzen: rly ? that's no go for me then | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:28:39] <matti> masterzen: Have fun : | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:28:51] <matti> masterzen: And eemmm... amm.. "drink responsibly" ;d | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:28:52] <matti> ;p | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:28:53] <masterzen> there's so many interesting talks this year | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:28:57] <artkrz> eric0: are they split 50/50 ? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:29:03] <matti> masterzen: Is it expensive? | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:29:07] <eric0> hardware load balancer in front | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:29:11] <masterzen> matti: it's free | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:29:31] <masterzen> (and very crowdy) | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:29:42] <artkrz> eric0: can i pm you and ask some more details ? | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:30:01] <matti> masterzen: Oh. | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:30:08] <matti> masterzen: I did not know that :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:30:09] * masterzen is going to the DC install some more RAM | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:31:57] <eric0> artkrz: if its fast, my beer timer is almost out | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:32:01] <artkrz> k | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:34:15] <dd> hi all, I've a problem with puppetlabs-opennebula module... when I try to execute puppet agent -t, the command shows this output err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: Unknown function create_resources at /etc/puppet/modules/opennebula/manifests/controller.pp:192 on node | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:34:26] <sjohnson> hay | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:34:33] <dd> any ideas? | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:34:43] <rodjek> dd: what version of puppet | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:34:49] <rodjek> sounds like an older one | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:35:12] <dd> rodjek: 2.6.2 | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:35:45] <rodjek> create_resources is 2.7.x from memory | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:35:54] <dd> ok, thanks | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:35:56] <dd> :9 | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:36:26] <sjohnson> hi just wondering if anyone can help me i have a problem, i have a define that is apache::vhost that require apache::sslcert, but that sslcert could be require by othere vhosts on the same node, i have tried apache2::vhost[$name]->apache2::sslkey[$sslkeys] but that syntax erros am i missing someting | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:36:30] <bede> how can I test on the puppet master, if the catalog for a specific client compiles? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:37:30] <rodjek> bede: what version of puppet? | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:37:51] <bede> rodjek: 2.6.2 | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:38:22] <rodjek> bede: puppet master --compile <host> | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:39:05] <bede> rodjek: thx | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:42:32] <sjohnson> anyone got any ideas, how i can model a many to one relationship with defines, i.e a define (vhost) that requires another define (ssl) that can be used with many vhosts | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:43:11] <bede> that sounds like a x/y problem | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:44:25] <sjohnson> well i want to model ssl keys, that are need by vhosts, but the ssl keys could be wildcard ssl keys that could be used by multiple vhosts | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:45:13] <sjohnson> so i though i could create a define for the vhost and sslkey. Then some how tie the sslkey define into the vhost define. If you know what i mean | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:49:08] <dd> rodjek: undefined method `[]' for :undef:Symbol at /etc/puppet/modules/opennebula/manifests/controller.pp. Any idea about it? | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:49:46] <rodjek> dd: are you still running 2.6.x? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:50:25] <dd> rodjek: no, now i'm using puppetversion => 2.7.9 | ||
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| [2012/01/24 05:51:27] <stephenh> hi, i get the error 'Error 400 on SERVER: Could not find stage main specified by Class[Rvm::Dependencies::Ubuntu]' and not sure how to trouble shoot? | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:51:44] <stephenh> there is no mention of 'main' in that class, and when hashing it out in the main .pp, there is no difference | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:52:24] <rodjek> dd: dunno, you're probably be best to bug ken_barber about that tomorrow | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:59:01] <bede> rodjek: while that works, if /var/lib/puppet/yaml/node/$NODE.yaml does not yet exists, it will be generated. and when I run the command as root, the file will be owned by root and the client can not access it | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:59:15] <rodjek> don't run it as root? | ||
| [2012/01/24 05:59:43] <stephenh> not sure how to troubleshoot this one . :/ | ||
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| [2012/01/24 06:00:17] <rodjek> stephenh: it'd probably help to pastebin the manifests in question | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:00:29] <bede> well yeah, but I need to remember that | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:00:33] <stephenh> sure, i can provide a link | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:00:45] <stephenh> https://github.com/blt04/puppet-rvm/ | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:01:03] <rodjek> bede: you could look at something like rspec-puppet or cucumber-puppet w/ jenkins to automate catalogue compilation | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:01:11] <stephenh> haven't worked with stages before, so the error is all quite new to me | ||
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| [2012/01/24 06:02:41] <rodjek> stephenh: you're using 2.6.x or above yeah? | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:02:46] <stephenh> yep | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:03:07] <stephenh> 2.6.9 | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:03:32] <rodjek> hmm, it should define a main stage for you automatically | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:03:33] <stephenh> it requires 2.6.7 =< | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:03:50] <bede> rodjek: well that was more of a one time test to see if we have compilation errors somewhere. | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:04:21] <stephenh> unfortunatley not sure.. haven't used stages before so not sure where to start | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:04:22] <bede> rodjek: I am preparing to clean up a couple of things and I wanted to make sure that I have a known good point to start | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:04:36] <stephenh> there's no reference to any stage in that class, | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:04:56] <rodjek> stephenh: init.pp line 1 | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:05:09] <stephenh> yeah | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:05:14] <stephenh> was just about to paste that.. | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:05:20] <stephenh> tried hashing it out (?) and no difference | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:05:57] <stephenh> also in manifests/classes/system.pp | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:06:10] <rodjek> eugh, the more i read this module, the more i'd suggest not using it | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:06:28] <stephenh> (guess it's setting rvm::system as rvm-install stage?) | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:06:41] <rodjek> yeah | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:07:13] <stephenh> ok, that makes sense, so to run rvm-install before processing the rest (main?) of the manifests | ||
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| [2012/01/24 06:12:31] <sjohnson> question i have a definition define apache2::sslkey( $sslcert = "", $sslkey = "",$sslca = "" ), how can i access those variables in another define, apache2::sslkey["name"]::sslcert ? | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:12:33] <stephenh> if i removed any reference to the stage= could that resolve it? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 06:14:33] <_rc> stephenh: you can't | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:14:37] <rodjek> stephenh: i wouldn't recommend it. the author is using stages to ensure the order in which things happen | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:14:55] <_rc> stephenh: sorry, bad tab-complete | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:15:00] <_rc> sjohnson: you can't | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:15:44] <sjohnson> eeeek, im stuck then | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:16:56] <_rc> why do you want to do this? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 06:17:15] <sjohnson> i have a define which is an apache vhost and a define which is a ssl key | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:17:32] <sjohnson> the apache vhost needs to know the file names of the ssl keys | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:18:06] <sjohnson> i was hoping to access the variables for the define of the ssl key but i suppose i can just hardcode the names of the keys | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:18:14] <sjohnson> from the name of the define | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:18:48] <sjohnson> $name.key in the ssl key and then pass the define name to the apache vhost | ||
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| [2012/01/24 06:20:40] <stephenh> rodjek: any suggestion..? | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:21:00] <stephenh> couldn't he/i use require instead? or not quite the same thing in this case? | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:21:57] <rodjek> stephenh: use a different rvm module | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:22:17] <rodjek> one that isn't full of good practices violations | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:22:44] <stephenh> that's what i'm leaning towards at the moment | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:22:46] <stephenh> still looking | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:23:09] <sjohnson> any idea what the error could be err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: wrong header line format | ||
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| [2012/01/24 06:33:42] <GoodKarma> is there a way to allow one module to see variables from another module? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 06:35:30] <GoodKarma> and how does the scopping go, becasue I've got two classes using ENC, one say standard, second webserver - standard applies to all the hosts, webservber only to a number of hosts | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:36:15] <GoodKarma> and standard includes sudo module, but I would want the sudo config on the hosts that have webserver class via ENC also, to be a bit different | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:38:11] <GoodKarma> based on template ideally | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:39:10] <_rc> define a bit different please | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:40:08] <GoodKarma> would want to include extra line | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:40:12] <_rc> simplest thing may be to drop something into /etc/suoders.d as part of your webserver class | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:40:49] <GoodKarma> would reather want to have all the sudo stuff enclosed within one module | ||
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| [2012/01/24 06:41:10] <GoodKarma> maybe, is there a way to access a list of classes from within the template somehow? | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:41:16] <Volcane> technically that sudo entry isnt a sudo thing its a webserver thing though isnt it? | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:41:21] <_rc> no, also don't. | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:41:37] <Volcane> you should have a define to expose adding sudo entries something like sudo::entry and then other modules should use that to input entries into sudoers | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:42:02] <GoodKarma> right | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:42:12] <GoodKarma> that makes sense now | ||
| [2012/01/24 06:42:56] <sjohnson> if anyone has any time can someone look at https://github.com/stephenrjohnson/puppet-apache2 and tell if im doing things the standard way | ||
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| [2012/01/24 06:44:06] <GoodKarma> thanks | ||
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| [2012/01/24 07:27:42] <legoklods> Can I in a template test if the host is a member of a given class? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 07:31:54] <crs> Hi there. I got custom fact. Is it possible to make it so it loads only for certain hosts? Not all of them? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 07:36:18] <unixdaemon> crs - not unless you're seperating them through environments - and maybe not even then | ||
| [2012/01/24 07:36:42] <unixdaemon> Not sure if they fixed that or not. | ||
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| [2012/01/24 07:37:26] <crs> On the other hand. If module fails on loading, will it work later on? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 07:44:13] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Ruby_Dsl (#11) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Ruby_Dsl?version=11 (by Ken Barber) | ||
| [2012/01/24 07:44:13] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Ruby_Dsl (#12) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Ruby_Dsl?version=12 (by Ken Barber) | ||
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| [2012/01/24 08:07:40] <Sp4rKy> no one is aware of some puppet types to manage zabbix server (through API) ? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 08:14:16] <SpComb> is it possible to access some named resource's attribute as a variable value? | ||
| [2012/01/24 08:14:38] <SpComb> like `$mymodule_bar_path = Foo::Bar['somename'].path`? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 08:15:18] <Shurick> hi all | ||
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| [2012/01/24 08:16:06] <Shurick> anyone can consult me on using portupgrade provider on freebsd? pkg provider doesn't support upgrade feature | ||
| [2012/01/24 08:16:47] <SpComb> as in, I have a defined type with some computed variable, and I want to access the value of that variable for a given instance of that type | ||
| [2012/01/24 08:16:48] <Shurick> the problems isn't discussed in google's serarch | ||
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| [2012/01/24 08:22:02] <junaid> i have to problem to run check_puppet.pl to get it integrated with nagios | ||
| [2012/01/24 08:22:07] <junaid> Can't locate Nagios/Plugin.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at ./check_puppet.pl line 16. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./check_puppet.pl line 16. | ||
| [2012/01/24 08:22:17] <junaid> i get above error prompt | ||
| [2012/01/24 08:23:29] <mika> forgot to install libnagios-plugin-perl? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 08:25:06] <junaid> let me check boss | ||
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| [2012/01/24 08:32:14] <m3ridian> is anyone here managing a linux server where you use the latest puppet version that's not in the distros repository ? How did you solve the puppet software management on the nodes in that case ? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 08:34:47] <Shurick> updated server to the latest version from puppet repo | ||
| [2012/01/24 08:34:48] <_rc> newer than your upstream distribution doesn't necesarrily mean unpackaged. you should be able to manage a topic repo with newer puppet in it, and assign that to your clients | ||
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| [2012/01/24 08:40:38] <m3ridian> Shurick: apt.puppetlabs.com you mean ? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 08:41:02] <Shurick> yes, for debian-based | ||
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| [2012/01/24 08:41:21] <m3ridian> yeah, I'm using ubuntu and debian in this case | ||
| [2012/01/24 08:42:04] <Shurick> echo 'deb http://apt.puppetlabs.com/ squeeze main' >> /etc/apt/sources.list | ||
| [2012/01/24 08:42:13] <Shurick> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade puppet | ||
| [2012/01/24 08:42:25] <Shurick> (for squeeze 6.x release) | ||
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| [2012/01/24 08:45:03] <m3ridian> yeah, thanks - why has this info eluded me until now =) | ||
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| [2012/01/24 08:45:47] <junaid> Can't locate Params/Validate.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0/Nagios/Plugin/Functions.pm line 11. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0/Nagios/Plugin/Functions.pm line 11. Compilation failed in require at /usr/local/sh | ||
| [2012/01/24 08:46:07] <junaid> following error i recieved after install libnagios-plugin-perl | ||
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| [2012/01/24 08:47:12] <legoklods> junaid: Then install libparams-validate-perl | ||
| [2012/01/24 08:48:02] <junaid> right boss, let me do it | ||
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| [2012/01/24 08:55:00] <danleyden> morning all. Question on scoping... I have a template that needs to use variables. The template is called in a defined type, where the variables are declared. Previously one would access the variable by simply calling it in the template, but as of v2.7 that is deprecated and the warning states to use $classname::variable, but the variable is declared in a defined type so this won't work. The question is: how do I access the variab | ||
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| [2012/01/24 08:55:55] <danleyden> scope.lookupvar('$mytype:variable') just tells me (rightly) it can't find a class called mytype... | ||
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| [2012/01/24 10:25:30] <icezimm> have anybody tried to user puppetlabs' mysql module? | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:25:40] <icezimm> or justintime fork? | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:26:17] <justintime> I have :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:26:31] <icezimm> uow.. looking for your nickname on channel list hahahh | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:26:47] <joe-mac1> anyone using vcsrepo on 2.7.9? getting some odd errors | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:26:54] <icezimm> mysql::db is not working.. I don't know | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:27:06] <justintime> icezimm: what distro are you using? | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:27:19] <icezimm> on —debug I can see puppet is calling | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:27:20] <icezimm> debian | ||
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| [2012/01/24 10:28:09] <justintime> If you're on debian, then you likely won't see any benefit to using my fork. | ||
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| [2012/01/24 10:28:22] <justintime> But ccaum has a fork that's huge, and pretty beneficial | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:28:43] <justintime> I was active on it a couple weeks ago, but got pulled off last week. | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:28:49] <icezimm> hummm thought your fork were supporting creating mysql::db | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:29:05] <icezimm> puppetlabs one still doesnt support when you have a host with root pwd set | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:29:11] <justintime> Let me see if ccaum's pull request is complete | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:29:14] <icezimm> hummm | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:29:15] <icezimm> ok | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:29:18] <icezimm> I'm gonna check too | ||
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| [2012/01/24 10:29:56] <justintime> While I can tell you mysql::db with root pw set works in my fork, I can also tell you I didn't write anything to make it work :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:30:06] <e_> hi guys. can i make puppet stop a service, then modify a file, then stop the service instead of modify / restart? | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:30:30] <icezimm> e_: you can change the file, then reload the service.. | ||
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| [2012/01/24 10:30:45] <e_> icezimm: that's not good :/ | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:30:51] <icezimm> e_: start_config_stop I don't know | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:30:56] <icezimm> maybe you can using requires | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:31:00] <e_> other way round | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:31:02] <justintime> icezimm: here's ccaum's feature branch that has the big refactor in it: https://github.com/ccaum/puppetlabs-mysql/tree/feature/master/use_mysql_gem_for_provider | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:31:04] <e_> stop_config_start :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:31:16] <e_> to properly shut the service down it needs the old config | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:31:21] <justintime> Have a standup, brb | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:31:25] <icezimm> yes.. I misspelled hehe | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:31:46] <e_> hehe | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:31:53] <icezimm> justintime: I'm gonna check.. thank you man | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:32:04] <crs> Hm, one more question. Is it possible to combine unless and comparing two facts together? Like at the moment I have: unless => "[ $a == $b ] && command" -- where a and b are shell commands. I would like to move a and b to be custom facts. But how would I then get the same logic? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 10:41:18] <illsci> Is there something up with the puppet labs ubuntu package repo http://apt.puppetlabs.com/ ? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 10:41:44] <illsci> It's hanging for me for the last few weeks and when you open it in a web browser I can't navigate into the ubuntu dir | ||
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| [2012/01/24 10:41:50] <illsci> Am I crazy? | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:42:37] <illsci> I have deb http://apt.puppetlabs.com/ubuntu lucid main in my apt repo... | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:42:38] <Shurick> illsci, it works | ||
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| [2012/01/24 10:43:31] <Shurick> did you miss final / ? | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:43:54] <illsci> If you open a browser and go to http://apt.puppetlabs.com/ you can enter the ubuntu folder? | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:44:08] <_rc> there's some rewrite there, 302s /ubuntu to / | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:44:08] <Shurick> no, it seems to redirect back to / | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:44:33] <illsci> So that would break an apt entry doing what I was doing.... deb http://apt.puppetlabs.com/ubuntu lucid main | ||
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| [2012/01/24 10:44:42] <illsci> this just started like a week or so ago | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:45:14] <Shurick> try deb http://apt.puppetlabs.com/ lucid main | ||
| [2012/01/24 10:45:16] <illsci> http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/1/wiki/Puppet_Ubuntu This is the wiki that has the same entires | ||
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| [2012/01/24 10:45:26] <illsci> werd | ||
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| [2012/01/24 10:51:13] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Ruby_Dsl (#13) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Ruby_Dsl?version=13 (by Ken Barber) | ||
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| [2012/01/24 11:11:38] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Ruby_Dsl (#14) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Ruby_Dsl?version=14 (by Ken Barber) | ||
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| [2012/01/24 11:13:38] <and`> are wildcards allowed in pp's variables? i.e $hostname != "*.something" | ||
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| [2012/01/24 11:20:29] <unixdaemon> and`: that's just a literal string as it's within in " " | ||
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| [2012/01/24 11:21:11] <and`> unixdaemon: thanks | ||
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| [2012/01/24 11:38:34] <techhelp2> what's the default module path for puppet? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 11:39:02] <_rc> puppet --configprint modulepath | ||
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| [2012/01/24 11:45:29] <Zerthimon> i got a problem with modules files serving, can anyone help ? | ||
| [2012/01/24 11:46:05] <henk> Not unless you ask a question… | ||
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| [2012/01/24 11:50:04] <Zerthimon> I have a module i need to serve a file from configured like this: source => "puppet://${puppet_server}/modules/system/etc/ssh/sshd_config}"; and a file is in /etc/puppet/modules/system/files/etc/ssh/sshd_config but I receive a err: /Stage[main]/System::Ssh::Config/File[/etc/ssh/sshd_config]: Could not evaluate: Could not retrieve information from environment production source(s) puppet://puppet.bonsite.local/modules/system/etc/ssh/sshd_config} at /etc/pu | ||
| [2012/01/24 11:50:05] <Zerthimon> ppet/modules/system/manifests/ssh/config.pp:12 any idea what's wrong ? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 11:51:53] <stahnma> try puppet:/// and remove ${pupet_server} | ||
| [2012/01/24 11:52:09] <stahnma> if you're modulepath is configured properly that should serve it up | ||
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| [2012/01/24 11:54:12] <Zerthimon> stahnma: changing to puppet:/// didn't help | ||
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| [2012/01/24 11:55:21] <_rc> can the user the puppetmaster runs as read /etc/puppet/modules/system/files/etc/ssh/ and /etc/puppet/modules/system/files/etc/ssh/sshd_config | ||
| [2012/01/24 11:55:38] <Zerthimon> _rc yes | ||
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| [2012/01/24 11:56:45] <_rc> and all the directories along the path? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 11:57:04] <Zerthimon> _rc: yes | ||
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| [2012/01/24 11:58:30] <Zerthimon> setting modulepath=/etc/puppet/modules doesn't help either | ||
| [2012/01/24 11:58:43] <_rc> what was it before? | ||
| [2012/01/24 11:58:54] <Zerthimon> it wasn't specified | ||
| [2012/01/24 11:59:09] <_rc> so it would have been that value | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:00:27] <Zerthimon> running master with debug shows info: Could not find file_metadata for 'modules/system/etc/ssh/sshd_config}' | ||
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| [2012/01/24 12:01:13] <_rc> is that a transcription error, the } ? | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:01:41] <Zerthimon> hmm | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:01:58] <Zerthimon> where the } come from .. | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:02:29] <_rc> what happens is you depress a key, and a switch closes | ||
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| [2012/01/24 12:03:52] <Zerthimon> whoa, the } was a problem | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:04:12] <Zerthimon> _rc: thanks a lot | ||
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| [2012/01/24 12:20:28] <elasticdog> how do you guys cleanly organize modules to handle both differences between distros and versions of distros? (centos vs ubuntu, and centos 5 vs centos 6) | ||
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| [2012/01/24 12:20:37] <elasticdog> just a bunch of conditionals that include sub classes? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 12:22:39] <jbaldridge> elasticdog: I've been a fan of patterns I first saw in lab42's modules. | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:22:45] <jbaldridge> https://github.com/example42/puppet-modules/blob/master/lighttpd/manifests/params.pp | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:22:48] <jbaldridge> for example | ||
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| [2012/01/24 12:24:50] <Shurick> anyone played with portupgrade provider (for freebsd)? or has idea how to perform ports upgrades w/o having /usr/ports installed (frob pre-compiled .tbz)? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 12:34:28] <cjz> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/file_serving.html says that you have an entry mount_point | ||
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| [2012/01/24 12:34:59] <cjz> but the fileserver.conf that i have has [files] | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:35:25] <cjz> already with a path pointing to /etc/puppet/files | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:35:54] <_rc> it shows an example of a section you may add called mount_point | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:36:12] <_rc> it doesn't say it'll be there to begin with | ||
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| [2012/01/24 12:37:10] <cjz> but do i need mount_point if i already have files? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 12:37:44] <cjz> they seem to have the some config properties i guess is what is confusing me | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:37:53] * cjz is very new to puppet | ||
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| [2012/01/24 12:39:35] <_rc> if you're new, you're better off forgetting about fileserver.conf completely, and just put your files in modules | ||
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| [2012/01/24 12:40:12] <_rc> as this section says http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/file_serving.html#serving-module-files it's semi-magical and mostly DTRT | ||
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| [2012/01/24 12:45:31] <cjz> oh i see | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:45:35] <cjz> ok lemme try that | ||
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| [2012/01/24 12:53:50] <wollviech> quick question: can i use '~<user>' in a file-resources path-parameter to reference <user>'s homedir on the client-system (not on the puppetmaster) | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:54:51] <elasticdog> jbaldridge: thanks for the link, I'll check it out | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:55:39] <wollviech> if yes, will autorequire still work correctly? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 12:56:50] <_rc> $ puppet apply -e 'file { "~richardc/foo.txt": ensure => present }' | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:56:51] <_rc> Parameter path failed: File paths must be fully qualified, not '~richardc/foo.txt' at line 1 | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:57:23] <_rc> looks like a no | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:57:24] <wollviech> meh, but thanks | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:57:32] <elasticdog> jbaldridge: I've used params classes before, and I do like their use of $base_source...however, the module I'm working on needs additional files and service checks depending on version, not just different names/paths/etc. | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:57:36] <whack> wollviech: you can use facter for that | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:57:43] <whack> wollviech: if you really really need to | ||
| [2012/01/24 12:58:12] <justintime> Can anyone tell me if there's any limitations in the naming of a puppet environment? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 13:01:48] <TCPcaveman> Okay so when I use the User type and create a user with a uid => '' it creates just fine but when I run puppet again it tries to set the uid to '' with usermod and fails. Is this expected behavior? It seems like a bug. I am running 2.6.12 | ||
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| [2012/01/24 13:02:13] <Volcane> justintime: best to keep it simple lowercase | ||
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| [2012/01/24 13:07:10] <agaffney> TCPcaveman: if you don't have a value to specify for uid, just leave it out | ||
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| [2012/01/24 13:11:20] <TCPcaveman> agaffney, thanks thats what I did but I was more wondering if this was a bug | ||
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| [2012/01/24 13:20:12] <agaffney> TCPcaveman: probably ;) | ||
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| [2012/01/24 13:20:25] <TCPcaveman> hah | ||
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| [2012/01/24 13:25:32] <pdtpatrick> Can someone please give me a wiki or link that fully explains file bucket and its uses | ||
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| [2012/01/24 13:25:43] <pdtpatrick> so far i've just seen brief overviews | ||
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| [2012/01/24 13:26:54] <agaffney> pdtpatrick: the whole point is to create a backup of files that puppet replaces | ||
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| [2012/01/24 13:27:42] <pdtpatrick> ahh then my original thoughts were valid | ||
| [2012/01/24 13:27:43] <pdtpatrick> thanks | ||
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| [2012/01/24 13:34:45] <multiverse> I am researching how to deal with environments, and note that there are still compllications with it. The bit I found interesting is that it was suggest that files be served "from modules'. It is my intent to get files from artifactory via http. Is that a problem? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 14:14:56] <OltreIrc`11619> !list | ||
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| [2012/01/24 14:20:59] <ale345> ciao | ||
| [2012/01/24 14:21:34] <ale345> !addon | ||
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| [2012/01/24 14:31:08] <OltreIrc`11619> ciao | ||
| [2012/01/24 14:31:20] <cwebber> ccaum: you hanging around? | ||
| [2012/01/24 14:31:29] <OltreIrc`11619> !list | ||
| [2012/01/24 14:31:33] <ccaum> cwebber: Yeah, what's up? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 14:32:22] <cwebber> so struggling hard core to wrap my head around this whole testing thing... it feels like I am just redefining the manifest in a different language | ||
| [2012/01/24 14:32:40] <cwebber> is there something I am missing? | ||
| [2012/01/24 14:33:08] <cwebber> IE why wouldnt I just test to ensure that the module compiles? | ||
| [2012/01/24 14:33:10] <ccaum> cwebber: In essence you are, but really you're testing the resources in the generated catalog. | ||
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| [2012/01/24 14:33:59] <ccaum> cwebber: For example, if you have a File resource default that sets the mode to 0440, it's possible that someone didn't realize you were counting on that so they manually set the mode to /etc/sudoers to 0755. Your test should catch that | ||
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| [2012/01/24 14:34:44] <ccaum> cwebber: By manually I obviously mean setting the mode parameter in the manifest | ||
| [2012/01/24 14:34:48] <cwebber> ccaum: OK that makes sense. Additionally looking for errors of omission etc | ||
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| [2012/01/24 14:35:23] <ccaum> cwebber: Exactly. The code checks the tests and the tests check the code. Catches regressions and hopefully bugs early on | ||
| [2012/01/24 14:35:51] <cwebber> unless your logic is flawed to begin with ;-) | ||
| [2012/01/24 14:36:03] <cwebber> thanks, that helps justify the time on the tests | ||
| [2012/01/24 14:36:19] <ccaum> cwebber: Cool. If you need any help, let me know | ||
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| [2012/01/24 14:58:46] <eric0> <3 writing parser functions | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:08:12] <asiii> hey all… when using exported resources, can you have more than one node doing the same resource collection? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:11:34] <Volcane> asiii: yeah | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:12:10] <sevard> Does anyone know if puppet only changes directory permissions on directory creation? | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:12:22] <sevard> I can't get it to change permissions of an already existing directory using mode => in a file directive | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:13:37] <asiii> Volcane: cool ok, thanks for confirming | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:15:35] <asiii> on 2 servers w/ the same puppet configs, they're generating nagios configs based via exported resources. on server1 puppet runs fine, on server2 puppet errors as it 'cannot override local resource' | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:15:48] <asiii> wasn't sure if it was due to multiple nodes doing the collection | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:17:01] <asiii> dont see any duplicate entries in the storeconfigs db. anyone with ideas i can look into? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:17:44] <jamescarr> hi... can I get some help with puppet+vagrant? | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:18:00] <jamescarr> trying to put together a quick spike to demo at my company tomorrow | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:18:47] <jamescarr> actually nvm... it is an apt issue | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:23:09] <HCoyote> is there a way to get the name of the class you're in during runtime? I want to use something from the class name to autoconfigure some things inside the class | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:24:32] <SpComb> HCoyote: I believe $name works in a `class ... { ...} `, might be wrong though | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:25:03] <HCoyote> does $name resolve to the class in that case? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:25:55] <SpComb> I just recall coming across that behaviour when trying to use $name in a define's default value in 2.6.2 :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:26:08] <SpComb> (it become the enclosing class's name) | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:26:15] <HCoyote> hmm. ok. | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:26:49] <jamescarr> so I cannot find a package for puppet enterprise that runs on ubuntu 11 | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:26:59] <jamescarr> do my eyes deceive me? | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:27:46] <windowsrefund> use the free software packages? | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:28:45] <HCoyote> pay them to provide a version that runs on ubuntu 11? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:29:45] <jamescarr> heheheh :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:29:57] <jamescarr> fair enough | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:31:34] <HCoyote> if I've done something like package{"foo": ensure => "$version" } ... how can I require that some other puppet functionality (in this case a custom type), only run if that version is installed? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:32:33] <RhysMorgan> Hey all, I don't suppose anyone here is or knows someone with puppet and LAMP experience looking for some work in the UK do they? | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:33:54] <jamescarr> eh, I dont need the enterprise ui at the moment anyway, using the vagrant | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:34:01] <jamescarr> can I has multiple manifests for different apps? | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:34:50] <RhysMorgan> jamescarr: do you mean multiple modules? | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:35:07] <jamescarr> yeah, I supposed thats what I mean | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:35:24] <RhysMorgan> You can have as many modules as you like then include them in your node definition | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:35:58] <jamescarr> hmmm... is there a good quick link to this? I followed the examples for setting up vagrant and want to go further | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:37:03] <RhysMorgan> jamescarr: What exactly are you trying to achieve, if you give me a use case I can point you in the best direction | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:39:14] <jamescarr> RhysMorgan, well, right now I want to add mongodb to my Vagrant box | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:39:23] <jamescarr> basically using it to understand the ropes with puppet :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:39:50] <RhysMorgan> have you checked out moduleforge? | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:40:28] <jamescarr> heh, I have not :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:40:58] <RhysMorgan> for example: http://forge.puppetlabs.com/portertech/mongodb | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:41:09] <RhysMorgan> read, absorb and re-create to learn more :) | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:42:18] <jamescarr> THANK YOU SIR | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:43:45] <jamescarr> so, to add a module I just do a git checkout of it's repo as a submodule? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:44:33] <RhysMorgan> depending on your file structure, but yeah put it in your module path and the reference it in your node definition | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:45:54] <jamescarr> and I include it in my main manifest? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:46:52] <jamescarr> heh, I'm trying it and will see :) | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:47:48] <ultrasliberi94> !list | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:49:18] <jamescarr> nice... I got it runniing | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:49:24] <jamescarr> pretty freaking smooth | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:50:28] <RhysMorgan> welcome to the wonderful world of puppet :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 15:51:12] <eventi> enlightenment | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:53:52] <jamescarr> Now I just need to dig down into more detail :) | ||
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| [2012/01/24 15:57:23] <RhysMorgan> well feel free to shout if you need any help | ||
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| [2012/01/24 16:12:09] <jY> anyone know why a custom fact won't work.. I cant call facter os_location and the file is in /var/lib/puppet/lib/facter/os_location.rb | ||
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| [2012/01/24 16:13:35] <jY> i get when i run puppet agent "info: Loading facts in os_location" | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:13:40] <jY> but i can't use the fact | ||
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| [2012/01/24 16:15:52] <the_ramink> Puppet dashboard question. I'm trying to move the dashboard over to https. Works via my browser. I updated puppet.conf on the master to use the new url, but the POST to the reports URL seems to be choking on ssl errors. Does Puppet know how to post via https? | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:16:28] <the_ramink> worst case I'll just setup a limited http vhost to take posts from the master, but figured I'd ask and try to keep it simple. | ||
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| [2012/01/24 16:19:25] <jamescarr> argh | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:19:33] <jamescarr> my installation is hanging on installing mongodb: Puppet::Type::Package::ProviderApt: Executing '/usr/bin/apt-get -q -y -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confold install mongodb-stable' | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:19:48] <jamescarr> is there anything I can do to verify that it's fetching the files or something? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 16:22:03] <joe-mac1> jamescarr: try to run it yourself, what happens | ||
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| [2012/01/24 16:23:01] <RhysMorgan> what distro are you installing on? | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:23:07] <RhysMorgan> i.e ubuntu/centos | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:23:13] <jamescarr> ubuntu | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:23:19] <jamescarr> lucid to be exact | ||
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| [2012/01/24 16:23:29] <RhysMorgan> is the package called mongodb-stable on ubuntu? | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:23:44] <jamescarr> yes | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:23:49] <jamescarr> https://github.com/jamescarr/vagrant-spike | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:23:58] <jamescarr> that's my project structure I am using to bootstrap | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:24:05] <joe-mac1> it would outright fail if the package name was bad | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:24:07] <joe-mac1> if it is hanging | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:24:10] <joe-mac1> run it yourself by hand | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:24:13] <joe-mac1> see if it also hangs for you | ||
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| [2012/01/24 16:24:19] <joe-mac1> or note any behavior that is anomolous | ||
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| [2012/01/24 16:25:02] <jamescarr> holy cow | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:25:07] <jamescarr> it installed an old ass version | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:25:09] <jamescarr> 1.6.5 | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:25:21] <marksteele> damn, was hoping for god-like heefer | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:25:24] <marksteele> what a let down | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:25:29] <RhysMorgan> ok check the repo in params.pp | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:25:39] <marksteele> err heffer | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:25:43] <marksteele> (holy cow) | ||
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| [2012/01/24 16:26:02] * coofaman1 *rimshot | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:26:14] <RhysMorgan> marksteele: not funny when you have to explain :) | ||
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| [2012/01/24 16:26:49] <marksteele> by that, I meant that I was expecting the appearance of a cow with mighty godline powers ;P | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:27:01] <marksteele> RhysMorgan: ;) | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:27:08] <marksteele> err god-like | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:27:11] <marksteele> damn typos today | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:27:18] * marksteele ducks | ||
| [2012/01/24 16:28:07] <eventi> apt-get moo | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:03:39] <HCoyote> jY: did you try facter -p? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:04:46] <HCoyote> (I've only ever gotten that to run correctly as root, btw ... never fully debugged why it wasn't picking up the system-level custom facts when run as a non-root or non-puppet user) | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:05:28] <jamescarr> so help me understand... if my company uses something like weblogic, do we just host it internally? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:09:28] <jamescarr> I mean the package for it? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:19:42] <cwebber> ccaum: have you seen any rspec-puppet stuff that actually handles the class stuff? | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:20:58] <ccaum> Yeah, you can check out my experimental branch of the mysql module: https://github.com/ccaum/puppetlabs-mysql/tree/feature/master/use_mysql_gem_for_provider/spec/classes | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:21:28] <ccaum> cwebber: ^^ | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:22:46] <rodjek> cwebber: what do you mean by 'class stuff'? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:23:37] <cwebber> essentially, i am having an issue where it isnt finding the class to test because it is never included... At least that is how I am understanding the failings of my code | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:24:53] <rodjek> cwebber: can you give me some more details? pastebin your spec file, spec_helper, manifest & locations on disk of all of the above | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:25:35] <cwebber> rodjek: let me see if ccaum's code examples are enough to model. If I dont get it, I will do that for sure | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:25:44] <rodjek> ok | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:31:10] <techhelp2> what's the difference between exec and Exec? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:32:06] <the_ramink> techhelp2: exec is when you define it, Exec is when you refer to it. | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:33:04] <jamesturnbull> metcalfc: I somewhat misled you yesterday when I talked about remote installing PE - http://docs.puppetlabs.com/pe/2.0/cloudprovisioner_classifying_installing.html | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:33:19] <jamesturnbull> marksteele: you can use puppet node install to script remote installs of Puppet/PE | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:33:31] <jamescarr> what is the "right" way to install a huge list of packages? | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:33:38] <jamesturnbull> marksteele: oopps I meant metcalfc :( | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:33:44] <jamescarr> I'm playing with puppet to reprorduce my preferred dev environment | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:33:49] <jamescarr> *reproduce | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:34:10] <rodjek> jamescarr: package { ['package1','package2'...]: ensure => installed } | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:35:32] <agaffney> is the recommended way to format an import/include as a function (import("nodes.pp")) or as a keyword and string (import "nodes.pp")? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:37:06] <rodjek> agaffney: i skip the parens personally | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:37:36] <agaffney> rodjek: well, I'm writing a formatter, so I need to know the "recommended" format :) | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:39:09] <rodjek> agaffney: the style guide doesn't mention it, but the language guide examples all show it being used without | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:39:18] <rodjek> so i'd say that's the defacto recommended format | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:40:20] <Volcane> if i use it as a string i tend to () it but if a bare word not, donno why | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:40:24] <agaffney> k, then I'll handle import/include without | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:41:29] <agaffney> my script is able to parse/format ~720/784 manifests in my local setup | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:41:45] <agaffney> going for 100% coverage of the stuff I use | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:41:45] <rodjek> agaffney: do you know ruby? | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:41:49] <Volcane> agaffney: whats this script doing? | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:41:49] <agaffney> some, but I hate it | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:42:04] <agaffney> Volcane: token parser, building a tree structure, and spitting it all back out formatted nicely | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:42:14] <rodjek> pity, it'd be nice to integrate the functionality of what you're doing into puppet-lint | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:42:23] <mosen> hi puppeteers | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:42:27] <Volcane> agaffney: ah so like a code pretty thing? | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:42:32] <agaffney> Volcane: yep | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:42:38] <Volcane> thats awesome | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:42:42] <rodjek> it's something i've wanted to add, but haven't had the free time to do | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:42:45] <Volcane> thats really awesome | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:42:51] <agaffney> I have a *lot* of manifests written in a variety of styles, and I want a quick way to get them inline with the style guide | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:43:02] <Volcane> yeah ditto | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:43:13] <agaffney> I've got it in github, and I'll share once it's "done" | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:44:27] <eric0> one comment on include syntax, at least in 2.6 | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:44:49] <eric0> if your classname has variable expansion it needs to be in parens | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:45:23] <agaffney> failing of the puppet parser? | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:45:28] <agaffney> or was that done intentionally? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:45:53] <eric0> i think its a bug but haven't groveld redmine to find if its been filed/fixed | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:47:07] <Volcane> hmm include "${foo}" works for me | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:47:14] <Volcane> 2.6.9 | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:48:32] <techhelp2> which process is using memcached in puppet? | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:48:32] <eric0> hm, the specific one i have is include("os::${operatingsystem}") | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:48:46] <rodjek> techhelp2: none of them? | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:48:53] <eric0> guess this will end up on redmine after all | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:50:53] <techhelp2> rodjek: then why did the installer install memcached? | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:50:57] <agaffney> I'm down to only 26/784 manifests in my setup that don't parse with this script | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:51:05] <agaffney> and 4 of them are from the concat and puppetlabs-stdlib modules ;) | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:51:26] <rodjek> techhelp2: eh? | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:51:32] <rodjek> oh, puppet enterprise? | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:51:47] <antarus> agaffney: where is this script so I may steal it... | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:51:51] <techhelp2> yes, any idea? | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:52:01] <rodjek> nope | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:52:07] <rodjek> probably the dashboard | ||
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| [2012/01/24 17:54:37] <agaffney> antarus: it's on my github account, but I'll be sharing it once it's "done" (which might just be this afternoon) | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:55:19] <bpgoldsb> Is there a good repository for puppet 2.7.x rpms for RHEL6/Centos6 systems? EPEL looks like it has 2.6.x in it | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:55:39] <agaffney> yum.puppetlabs.com ? | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:59:00] <agaffney> Yumrepo <||> -> Package <||> | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:59:07] <agaffney> that is terrible, terrible syntax | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:59:11] <agaffney> I don't want to write code to parse that :P | ||
| [2012/01/24 17:59:18] <rodjek> haha | ||
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| [2012/01/24 18:00:48] <bpgoldsb> agaffney: Thanks. That wasn't listed on http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/1/wiki/Downloading_Puppet | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:01:07] <bpgoldsb> Well, it was kind of mentioned for puppet dashboard. | ||
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| [2012/01/24 18:02:44] <eric0> i'm kind of proud of the fact that we have 14k lines of puppet code in 256 manifest files and zero spaceships | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:03:26] <rodjek> i have a few double spaceships scattered around the place | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:03:30] <torrancew> eric0: that's pretty awesome | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:03:39] <torrancew> we have one or two | ||
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| [2012/01/24 18:04:57] <bpgoldsb> Does anyone remember seeing something about using wildcard expansion for environments somewhere? i.e. having unlimited environments without having to add each of them to puppet.conf? I thought I saw something like that a few months ago in a blog, but can't find the post. | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:05:22] <eric0> bpgoldsb: yeah working on implementing exactly that now | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:05:32] <eric0> http://puppetlabs.com/blog/git-workflow-and-puppet-environments/ | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:06:09] <bpgoldsb> eric0: Awesome, thank you sir. | ||
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| [2012/01/24 18:06:54] <eric0> see also #11900 | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:06:54] <gepetto> eric0: #11900 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/11900 "Puppet - Feature #11900: Dynamic environment interpolation in puppet master configuration. It has a status of Needs More Information and is assigned to Kelsey Hightower" | ||
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| [2012/01/24 18:13:00] <cwebber> rodjek: So... I apparently have failed. here is a gist w/ all the info I think you need https://gist.github.com/1673392 | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:13:44] <rodjek> ok | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:13:53] <rodjek> so you're kind of going about this the wrong way | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:14:16] <rodjek> when you're testing the 'puppet' class, you're testing what resources inside the class are going to be in the manifest | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:14:20] <cwebber> that does not supprise me in the least | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:14:41] <rodjek> so class puppet {} doesn't contain class puppet | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:15:15] <cwebber> that makes sense | ||
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| [2012/01/24 18:15:55] <cwebber> so stupid style question then, normally I would stub class puppet and then create puppet::client and puppet::server | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:15:55] <rodjek> check out https://github.com/rodjek/rspec-puppet/tree/master/spec | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:17:22] * cwebber just realized his style question, didnt contain a question | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:17:31] <rodjek> indeed | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:17:33] <cwebber> ok so that makes sense | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:18:02] <cwebber> so do I need a stub test if I have a stub class? | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:18:17] <rodjek> nope | ||
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| [2012/01/24 18:18:36] <rodjek> i may not be understanding what you're trying to acheive | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:18:43] <rodjek> you stouldn't need to stub anything | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:20:04] <cwebber> so really i just need puppet_init_spec.rb, just puppet_server_spec.rb and it should contain tests for the file resources etc | ||
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| [2012/01/24 18:26:13] <bpgoldsb> Is there a better solution than the old extdata+csv stuff nowadays? I've seen some blog traffic, but I'm not sure if any of it was ever production ready | ||
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| [2012/01/24 18:47:43] <checkers> bpgoldsb: I think hiera is designed to replace it, but I don't use it myself | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:48:43] <gizmoitus> Hello, just getting started with Puppet. I've defined a node named 'web'. On a puppet node, how do i configure it to be a particular node type | ||
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| [2012/01/24 18:51:30] <cwebber> rodjek: can you look at https://gist.github.com/1673392 and tell me how bad I am missing this. Feeling like a bit of an idiot right about now | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:51:47] <cwebber> gizmoitus: what do you mean by node type? | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:52:50] <gizmoitus> cwebber: in my site.pp i started with a node default {... | ||
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| [2012/01/24 18:53:21] <gizmoitus> now I've added a node web {... which I want to have config for web server nodes | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:53:58] <cwebber> so you should start by creating a webserver module | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:54:50] <cwebber> once you have a module built, include that in the node defintion | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:54:56] <rodjek> cwebber: what's the full path to your spec_helper and init.pp | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:56:39] <gizmoitus> cwebber: ok, but my question is, on my web server, when I run puppet, how is it going to know that this is a "web" node and some other type of node. | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:57:37] <Volcane> gizmoitus: node "your.web.server" { include roles::webshit } | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:57:58] <Volcane> gizmoitus: node /^web\d.+your.com/ { include roles::webshit } | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:58:07] <cwebber> rodjek: just added the output of ls -lR and pwd to the gist, but ~/projects/puppetmaster/puppet/modules/puppet/spec/spec_helper.rb and ~/projects/puppetmaster/puppet/modules/puppet/manifests/init.pp | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:58:25] <gizmoitus> Volcane: is there a way I can do this so that I don't have to use a hostname? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 18:58:58] <Volcane> gizmoitus: you can have a fact on the nodes if they can figure it out on their own then you can have node default { include "roles::${role}" } | ||
| [2012/01/24 18:59:09] <rodjek> cwebber: what happens when you uncomment the c.module_path line in spec_helper.rb? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:01:11] <cwebber> rodjek: refresh the gist and it is there | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:01:33] <gizmoitus> Volcane: ok, I'll look into that, thanks. | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:01:45] <cwebber> rodjek: not sure why it is looking for /Users/cwebber/.puppet/manifests/site.pp | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:02:16] <rodjek> oh, that's because that's your default puppet dir | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:02:39] <Volcane> gizmoitus: its very flexible basically so if you have some way to automatically figure out what a node is you can make puppet aware of that, last resort write an external node classifier then you can query any DB | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:03:01] <rodjek> set c.manifest_dir = FIle.join(File.dirname(__FILE__), '../../../manifests') | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:05:14] <cwebber> sweet! that did it | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:05:35] <rodjek> i should fine a decent way to auto set that | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:06:14] <cwebber> the only issue I have is that I haven't seen it set in any of the examples I have looked at | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:06:42] <cwebber> i must must just be doing dev in a really weird way | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:06:51] <rodjek> probably old examples | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:07:06] <rodjek> anywho, i really should fix that | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:26:29] <checkers> hi, I'm testing 2.7.1, it seems after I update the server's puppet code repository (with a git fetch ; git reset --hard origin/master), the first time I run a puppet client against the server it fails with a strange error | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:28:38] <checkers> I get an error that a class cannot be found, but when I immediately re-run puppet everything works fine | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:28:46] <checkers> http://pastebin.com/PNMdNAB3 here's my code and the error output | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:29:35] <checkers> I have various 'include common' lines that work, but when it gets to the first include of a module sub-class (ssh::auth), it fails with Could not find class ssh::auth | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:30:50] <checkers> I can't see anything in the release notes that relate to a similar sounding bug, but has anyone seen it before? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:31:54] <torrancew> checkers: using passenger? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:32:15] <torrancew> I saw that once on passenger, but that's the only time i've seen it | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:32:27] <checkers> torrancew: nope | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:32:44] <checkers> just the built in server, whatever it is | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:32:49] <torrancew> ah, webrick | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:33:03] <torrancew> not sure if it has that same flaw, but the recommendation is to use $notWebRick for your server | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:33:27] <torrancew> what puppet version, checkers? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:33:35] <checkers> but if the problem exists on passenger too... | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:33:38] <checkers> 2.7.1 | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:33:55] <torrancew> checkers: IIRC it existed with older puppets+passenger, but I no longer use passenger and can't say for sure | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:34:02] <the_ramink> webrick is fine in testing and less than a few servers. | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:34:38] <torrancew> the_ramink: do you know if it picks up changes to modules immediately, or does it need a second request? | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:34:39] <checkers> we run puppet on-demand, so scalability is fine so far | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:34:50] <the_ramink> passenger issue was solved around 2.6.7 IIRC | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:34:59] <torrancew> sounds right - I saw it on 2.6.2ish | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:36:50] <the_ramink> though 2.7 and 2.6 divereged around 2.6.5 (maybe?) so it's possible that early 2.7 has the same issue. checkers, which distro? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:37:11] <checkers> ubuntu 10.10, the pacakge is from backports | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:37:31] <eric0> i would not feel too good about 2.7.1 | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:37:38] <ralos> I just ran 'puppet clean cert hostname.com --all' ; It looks like I might of just revoked certs for a ton of nodes. Can anybody confirm if that is the correct syntax to flush an old host and it's reports? Or did I just goof | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:37:55] @ Quit: techhelp: Client Quit | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:38:04] <torrancew> ralos: you goofed | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:38:09] <ralos> joy | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:38:11] <torrancew> the --all has it operate on all certs | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:38:31] <torrancew> Coworker made the same error once. Hope you've got backups of your master's $ssldir... | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:38:34] <the_ramink> try pulling 2.7.9 from apt.puppetlabs.com and see if it goes away. FWIW I waited till 2.7.6 to move to the 2.7 series because of early bugs. | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:38:35] <agaffney> ewwww | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:38:53] <agaffney> whose idea was it to allow defining resources and chaining dependencies together on the same line? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:40:13] <eric0> if you just remove the crl, it'll be like it never happened ;) | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:40:25] <eric0> cert revocation is pretty well busted anyway | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:40:33] <eric0> ^^ thats for ralos, sorry | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:41:19] <eric0> $ssldir/ca/ca_cr.lpem and $ssldir/crl.pem on the master | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:41:50] <nate_h> any idea why i would get an error when trying to stop the puppet client as a service? | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:41:51] <nate_h> debug: Service[puppet](provider=redhat): Executing '/sbin/service puppet stop' | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:41:51] <nate_h> err: /Stage[main]/Puppet::Service/Service[puppet]: Could not evaluate: Puppet::Util::Log requires a message | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:41:53] <checkers> the_ramink: yeah think I might, I can see this bug confusing the heck out of me at 3am some day | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:42:01] <windows7> oh come on I just need a nick not taken | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:42:13] <nate_h> i'm just saying ensure = stopped, enable = flase | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:42:17] <nate_h> enable=false | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:42:19] <windowslinuxmaco> ok there | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:42:33] <ralos> oh thankfully cert list --all tells me what I need to fix | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:42:36] <windowslinuxmaco> general question with startup here | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:43:00] <windowslinuxmaco> puppet master and puppet dashboard go on the computer that controls all the others, correct? | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:43:05] <windowslinuxmaco> and all others are puppet-agent? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:43:54] <the_ramink> windowslinuxmaco: basically though you could have the dashboard on another server as well. Or not have it at all. | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:44:10] <windowslinuxmaco> the_ramink: but it makes it a lot easier, does it not? | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:44:31] <windowslinuxmaco> actually, would you mind critiquing something for me? | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:44:37] <nate_h> how come I can't set a service to ensure a service is both stopped and disabled? | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:44:41] <nate_h> without a funky error message | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:45:21] <windowslinuxmaco> I wrote a script (not a good one) to setup puppet/dashboard, I'd like to know any way to improve it as well as expanding upon it, it's still a work in progress, I'll pastebin it... | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:46:14] <windowslinuxmaco> the_ramink: http://pastebin.com/wLqMJvFH | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:46:19] <the_ramink> windowslinuxmaco: hmmm do you have to have dashboard on the same server to have it act as an enc? Maybe in the case though I'm sure you could push code around as well. | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:47:09] <the_ramink> windowslinuxmaco: why is this not a Puppet manifest/class? :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:47:23] <windowslinuxmaco> the_ramink: I'm sorry? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:49:18] <the_ramink> why isn't Puppet doing the install is the question. you could even do it with puppet apply before the puppetmaster was up and runnin. | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:49:18] <windowslinuxmaco> I still find puppet/agent/master/dashboard/manifest a bit confusing | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:49:26] <windowslinuxmaco> I'm trying to automate what I can for people | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:49:41] <windowslinuxmaco> puppet apply? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:52:33] <the_ramink> windowslinuxmaco: so in the first part you could rewrite that as a Puppet manifest using the yum repo type. Then puppet apply modules/yum/init.pp (or whatever) example of a yum class with a repo in it, https://github.com/rkhatibi/rdk-puppet-modules/blob/master/yum/manifests/atrpms.pp | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:54:18] <windowslinuxmaco> I don't understand | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:55:25] <the_ramink> windowslinuxmaco: sure. If I say, Puppet is the config management system that can install, configure, and generally manage an OS, do you agree? | ||
| [2012/01/24 19:57:12] <windowslinuxmaco> yes | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:58:44] <the_ramink> then why use bash scripting to do something that could be done by your config management system? To that end once you yum install puppet, you can puppet apply $puppet_code directly without having a master or anything else up and running. | ||
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| [2012/01/24 19:59:39] <the_ramink> I wouldn't do it long term, though some people do, but you're basically doing the work of spec-ing a Puppet master twice. Once in Bash and once in Puppet which you'll use to manage it in the future. | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:00:49] <windowslinuxmaco> would it not take more effort though to write up a manifest then a bash script? | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:01:18] @ Quit: kelseyhightower: Quit: kelseyhightower | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:01:23] <the_ramink> only if you assume that you'll never need to build a new Puppet master or manage and existing one. | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:01:39] <windowslinuxmaco> I thought there was only one master though | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:01:43] <windowslinuxmaco> set it and forget it | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:02:28] <windowslinuxmaco> also, does puppet need rails or only dashboard? | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:02:45] <windowslinuxmaco> I mean if I configure some boxes to only have agents do they need rails? | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:03:04] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: We use rails, or rather ActiveRecord, for StoreConfigs. That only matters on the master, not the agent, unless you want `puppet apply` to be able to do storeconfigs. | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:03:40] <the_ramink> windowslinuxmaco: gotta run | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:04:08] <windowslinuxmaco> dpittman: could you give me a list of the exact gems that I need to have for agent and for master and for dashboard so if someone wants one but not the others there isn't clutter? | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:04:11] <windowslinuxmaco> the_ramink: ok thanks for the help | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:04:43] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/installation.html | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:04:57] <windowslinuxmaco> dpittman: I think with my script I'm going to change it to prompt for input before doing an initial install and base configuration to ask if you want agent, master, or dashboard, and install things accordingly | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:05:18] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: That is what our PE installer does. :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:05:55] <windowslinuxmaco> PE? | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:06:21] <windowslinuxmaco> puppet enterprise? | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:06:25] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: yup. | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:06:27] <windowslinuxmaco> ah | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:07:17] <windowslinuxmaco> if it's any consolation my company said if I could get the proof of concept work on this done and teach them enough about it we'd go with enterprise | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:08:22] <windowslinuxmaco> and just to make sure, dashboard is the only thing that needs X, right? | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:08:34] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: It *shouldn't* need X. :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:08:38] <windowslinuxmaco> you could conceivably run agents and master solely from command line | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:09:05] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: PE is free up to ten nodes, so you could totally PoC off that. I would strongly encourage it, because even if you use FOSS in the long run, it makes getting started easy. | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:09:24] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: Dashboard is a web thing, so any browser will do. :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:09:26] <windowslinuxmaco> I thought PE was in the thousands | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:10:09] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: Purchase price and "free for use on up to ten nodes" are orthogonal. :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:10:32] <windowslinuxmaco> wish I'd known I wouldn't have to do this random scripting work and could've just downloaded your stuff directly | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:10:39] <windowslinuxmaco> you wouldn't believe the random hoops I had to jump through | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:10:56] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: Heh. Well, I will tell our web team that. Where did you look before failing to learn that? | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:11:38] <windowslinuxmaco> I come from a debian background and the epel repos here are disabled by default by kickstart so I thought I didn't have a lot of resources that I did and I ended up having to scour the internet for packages and build a lot by source initially before realizing where I went wrong | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:11:46] <windowslinuxmaco> it was a whole issue that it didn't need to be | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:12:06] <windowslinuxmaco> oh by the way though dpittman one big thing on your installation guide | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:12:39] <windowslinuxmaco> there's a section about setting up the mysql that leaves out a big chunk that would help.,,, | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:12:49] <windowslinuxmaco> don't know if you read my script | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:13:50] <windowslinuxmaco> http://pastebin.com/GmJ3QnDL | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:14:03] <windowslinuxmaco> dpittman: see the part where I fed input to mysql? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:14:43] <windowslinuxmaco> well the install guide on your site doesn't mention about making separate DBs | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:14:55] <windowslinuxmaco> maybe that's sort of an implied task I should've known | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:15:10] <windowslinuxmaco> but wouldn't hurt to mention it on there | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:15:13] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: Would you file that as a bug with our docs? http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet-docs | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:15:39] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: Our docs team love feedback like that. :) | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:17:05] <windowslinuxmaco> dpittman: sure | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:17:48] <ccaum> jhelwig: https://github.com/puppetlabs/dmv/pull/11 | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:18:16] <jhelwig> ccaum: Bad tab completion? | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:18:21] <ccaum> jhelwig: Sorry. Wrong user | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:18:50] <ccaum> jhelwig: In fact, wrong channel. Sheesh | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:22:46] <agaffney> antarus: https://github.com/agaffney/puppet-parser | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:22:59] <agaffney> please let me know about any issues | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:28:48] <windowslinuxmaco> dpittman: fail | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:28:55] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: ? | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:29:09] <windowslinuxmaco> dpittman: your installer failed because of a not high enough version of java | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:29:24] <windowslinuxmaco> dpittman: bash script:1 java:0 | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:29:26] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: Better than installing, then failing afterwards. :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:29:58] <windowslinuxmaco> but I thought puppet didn't have anything to do with java, I thought it was entirely ruby and rails | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:30:11] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: Puppet doesn't, but mcollective does. | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:30:17] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: ...and PE includes mcollective. | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:30:22] <windowslinuxmaco> what's mcollective? | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:30:50] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: ...and the DLJ went away, so we can't just ship Java to you. MCollective is an orchestration tool; lets you interact in real-time with agents out on the nodes. Does a bunch of stuff. | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:31:07] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: Anyway, sorry if that turns out to be a headache, and makes my suggestion less useful than it might have been. | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:31:50] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: http://puppetlabs.com/mcollective/introduction/ | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:33:04] <windowslinuxmaco> dpittman: DLJ? | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:33:05] <antarus> agaffney: perl! | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:33:16] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: Distributor License for Java. | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:33:20] <windowslinuxmaco> ah | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:33:24] <ralos> heh | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:33:37] <windowslinuxmaco> dpittman: well now it's going on about my augeas being too updated | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:33:42] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: :( | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:34:00] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: File bugs on those too, so that at least we have that feedback for our packaging team. :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:34:11] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: ...or ignore my advice and go back to your scripts. :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:34:15] <windowslinuxmaco> bash:2 java:0 | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:39:38] <windowslinuxmaco> dpittman: so if I have a clean kickstart and download this installer there and tell it I want dashboard, will it go so far as to download X11 as well? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:40:05] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: It shouldn't, but I can't speak to the dependency chain of the RPMs. Our code doesn't depend on X11 to run Dashboard. | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:40:42] <windowslinuxmaco> dpittman: you can't run rails in links, can you? | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:41:05] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: you run rails in a web server, and then you can run the browser on, y'know, the client workstation. :) | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:41:48] <agaffney> antarus: suck on my perl | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:43:13] <windowslinuxmaco> dpittman: console == dashboard? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:43:22] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: more or less, yes. | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:44:33] <stahnma> dpittman: java (openjdk) I am pretty sure pulls in some libX11.so stuff | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:44:36] <stahnma> yay! | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:44:42] <windowslinuxmaco> so if there is computer a, b, and c, a could have agent, b the master and console, and c could access the master through the console connecting to b? | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:44:44] <agaffney> antarus: it's fairly easy to rewrite in another language, but I did perl because my original version was regex heavy | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:45:03] <dpittman> windowslinuxmaco: Think of the console / dashboard as being a Web UI to some of the stuff Puppet can do. :) | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:45:29] <stahnma> windowslinuxmaco: master/console can be on different systems, but that adds complexity in most cases | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:45:37] <windowslinuxmaco> dpittman: but it can be accessed remotely, right? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:45:42] <stahnma> yes | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:46:20] <windowslinuxmaco> ok also, is it possible to not need to hand code anything and have the console/dashboard code it from user input? | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:46:34] <windowslinuxmaco> basically to make people not have to learn the dsl | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:48:45] <windowslinuxmaco> another question | ||
| [2012/01/24 20:49:08] <windowslinuxmaco> is it nonsensical to have puppet perform the same task as something like monit or runit or god? | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:51:49] <stahnma> windowslinuxmaco: you can make actions occur through the console, but it's not as powerful as the puppet dsl | ||
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| [2012/01/24 20:52:11] <stahnma> you could potentially monitor with mcollective, but overall the overlap isn't huge | ||
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| [2012/01/24 21:11:31] <dak419> I'm firing up PE for the first time in months, and I can't for the life of me remember the default password to the dashboard! | ||
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| [2012/01/24 21:12:26] <abetterlie> dak419: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/pe/2.0/maint_reconfiguring.html | ||
| [2012/01/24 21:12:44] <abetterlie> I don't know what the default is, but changing it is trivial if you have root on the box | ||
| [2012/01/24 21:13:09] <dak419> thanks. I'll try that out | ||
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| [2012/01/24 22:53:28] <betsys_> anyonehave a pointer to a current, reliable method of installing puppet on a solaris 10 box? Blastwave seems to be borked and I'm having bizarro errors trying to install rubygems with the sunfreeware version of ruby | ||
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| [2012/01/24 23:25:56] <abetterlie> betsys: you talking agent or master? | ||
| [2012/01/24 23:26:10] <abetterlie> (hopefully agent) | ||
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| [2012/01/24 23:28:44] <betsys> sorry, wandered away. that was kinda painful | ||
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| [2012/01/24 23:29:31] <betsys> lots of deceptive error messages trying to get ruby and rubygems to work but it all boiled down to setting LD_LIBRARY PATH, and gettign a different version of rubygems | ||
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| [2012/01/24 23:29:45] <betsys> couldn't get 1.3.1 to work at all but 1.8.whatever installed just fine | ||
| [2012/01/24 23:30:05] <betsys> then facter and puppet were easy. | ||
| [2012/01/24 23:30:09] <betsys> http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/1/wiki/Puppet_Solaris is a little out of date | ||
| [2012/01/24 23:30:32] <betsys> blastwave seems to have gone walkabout again. I don't trust blastwave/csw for production at ALL at this point | ||
| [2012/01/24 23:31:34] <betsys> (and agent. Master's on linux, doing Just Fine. sigh, linux has eaten my brain. | ||
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| [2012/01/24 23:32:07] <betsys> I spent 20 years doing solaris stuff but after a couple years of linux I get impatient after the first half hour or so of trying to install a package :-P | ||
| [2012/01/24 23:32:37] <betsys> I'll send a note to the mailing list tomorrow when I am awake enough to not sound too stoopid | ||
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| [2012/01/24 23:39:27] <abetterlie> yeah | ||
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| [2012/01/24 23:40:02] <abetterlie> I totally understand, package management on solaris is a depressing state of affairs after using apt-get or yum for a few months | ||
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| [2012/01/24 23:45:58] <danblack> days..hours...miliseconds.... | ||
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| [2012/01/24 23:52:46] <abetterlie> hah | ||
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| [2012/01/24 23:53:39] <abetterlie> yeah that's definitely more like it. I went from debian to opensolaris when it came out and my first reaction was complete disbelief | ||
| [2012/01/24 23:54:09] <macmichael01> Is there a way in puppet to determine if a port is valid. I a server which will host multiple projects and it would be nice when deploying if a random valid port could be assigned to nginx/apache. | ||
| [2012/01/24 23:54:25] <bob2> i'd pick ports for things explicitly | ||
| [2012/01/24 23:56:10] <macmichael01> I guess I can do that just thought there might be a more dynamic approach. might also be too risky. | ||
| [2012/01/24 23:56:42] <mosen> dunno | ||
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