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| [2012/01/25 00:00:56] <aaron> hi everyone | ||
| [2012/01/25 00:01:09] <checkers> hello aaron | ||
| [2012/01/25 00:01:14] @ aaron is now known as Guest82437 | ||
| [2012/01/25 00:01:33] <Guest82437> ok now im a guest | ||
| [2012/01/25 00:01:43] <Guest82437> <--- was aaron | ||
| [2012/01/25 00:02:05] <checkers> I would never have guessed | ||
| [2012/01/25 00:02:22] <Guest82437> i got a question, how do i create a base line for my nodes to be used for doing compliance? | ||
| [2012/01/25 00:03:50] <Guest82437> i have tried to look through all the docs... did i miss somewhere that talks about how to do it? | ||
| [2012/01/25 00:03:53] <bob2> what does that mean | ||
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| [2012/01/25 00:05:14] <Guest82437> when i click on the link "Compliance" and choose a node, i get a line saying "There is no baseline data for Monday, January 23, 2012" | ||
| [2012/01/25 00:05:37] <Guest82437> do i have to do anything special to create the baseline data? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 00:07:13] <bob2> oh, this is a puppet enterprise or foreman or something question | ||
| [2012/01/25 00:07:19] <bob2> good to mention that in your initial question | ||
| [2012/01/25 00:07:45] <Guest82437> aooh opps, im sorry | ||
| [2012/01/25 00:08:05] <Guest82437> yah you are right, im using puppet enterprise 2 | ||
| [2012/01/25 00:08:56] <Guest82437> 2.7.6 (Puppet Enterprise 2.0.0) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 00:10:42] <Guest82437> can you help me bob2? or should i keep searching? | ||
| [2012/01/25 00:11:10] <bob2> don't even know what puppet enterprise is | ||
| [2012/01/25 00:11:52] <Guest82437> haha aoh | ||
| [2012/01/25 00:11:54] <Guest82437> oks sorry | ||
| [2012/01/25 00:11:57] <Guest82437> thanks =) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 01:50:10] <drewp> i'm looking for a guide to having puppet install new types for itself to use, since i want my manifest to be able to use https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet-vcsrepo/tree/feature%2Fdarcs | ||
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| [2012/01/25 01:55:50] <danblack> drewp: something related to pluginsync -maybe : command line is puppet agent -t --pluginsync --environment production | ||
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| [2012/01/25 01:57:26] <drewp> indeed- thanks for the pointer | ||
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| [2012/01/25 02:05:13] <betsys> anyone around? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 02:05:38] <rodjek> betsys: there's usually at least one person | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:05:57] <betsys> O | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:06:02] <betsys> I am losing my grip | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:06:25] <betsys> trying to install a solaris client | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:06:33] <betsys> might be hitting this bug http://urgetopunt.com/puppet/2011/09/14/puppet-ruby19.html | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:07:14] <betsys> got ruby 1.9.2, time is right on client nad server. linux clients are happy. solaris client has been agiant pain | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:07:35] <rodjek> you're going to get a better response if you provide some real info. puppet version, error messages etc | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:07:37] <betsys> this is more or less a new installation | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:07:42] <betsys> I'm still typing! | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:07:54] <betsys> not very fast at 2 am | ||
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| [2012/01/25 02:08:32] <betsys> puppet is latest, 2.7.9 . client is a zone on solaris 10 u 10. server is OEL linux, should be totally latest rpm's | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:08:44] <betsys> error message is | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:08:55] <betsys> puppet agent --server puppet.bo3.e-dialog.com --waitforcert 30 --test err: Could not request certificate: SSL_connect returned=1 errno=0 state=SSLv3 read server certificate B: certificate verify failed. This is often because the time is out of sync on the server or client | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:09:13] <betsys> the time is not out of sync | ||
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| [2012/01/25 02:10:51] <rodjek> can you pastebin 'openssl x509 -text -in <path/to/crt> -noout'? | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:12:56] <Dominic> sounds like http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/9084 ? There's a workaround listed to create a hash symlink of the CA. | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:12:57] <betsys> I scp'ed the cert from server to client | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:12:57] <betsys> http://pastebin.com/HftGsR9u | ||
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| [2012/01/25 02:13:10] <betsys> yeah I tried that but wondering if I didn't do it right | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:13:41] <betsys> SSL is not my strong point | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:14:34] <betsys> ash-3.2# ls -l /etc/sfw/openssl/certs/ca.pem lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 Jan 25 01:53 /etc/sfw/openssl/certs/ca.pem -> /etc/puppet/ssl/certs/ca.pem | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:15:18] <rodjek> something isn't right there | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:15:26] <betsys> probably I should go to bed and try this when I'm conscious :-) But want to have ot to show tomorrow | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:15:31] <rodjek> the issuer and the subject are the same? | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:15:35] <betsys> yeah I screwed around making links and copying the cert around | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:15:37] <rodjek> but this isn't you puppetmaster | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:16:17] <betsys> I was reading http://urgetopunt.com/puppet/2011/09/14/puppet-ruby19.html | ||
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| [2012/01/25 02:16:57] <betsys> which seemed to suggest copying the cert from server to client | ||
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| [2012/01/25 02:17:15] <rodjek> this looks like your ca cert | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:17:18] <rodjek> not your client cert | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:17:28] <betsys> scp user@puppetmaster:/etc/puppet/ssl/certs/ca.pem /etc/puppet/ssl/certs/ | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:17:53] <rodjek> can you run that openssl command with your signed client cert instead? | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:18:02] <betsys> I don't have a client cert | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:18:11] <betsys> I think that's the problem I'm trying to solve? | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:18:25] <rodjek> well, yeah, that's going to cause a couple of auth issues | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:18:42] <betsys> I'm trying to get a cert from the puppetmaster, no? | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:19:02] <dpittman> betsys: If that process fixes your deployment, please file a bug report with the set of details. Exact version of OpenSSL would be awesome to have included in that. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 02:20:57] <betsys> we're meeting tomorrow to play with a puppet test install. Our engineering team was using blastwave and they're broken right now. I've been trying to install puppet from the puppetlab instructins and having no joy with solaris clients. One of the guys on our team wants to toss this all out and use cfengine. installing puppet has been sort of a bear | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:21:32] <betsys> I used a bunch of sunfreeware packages for the dependencies | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:22:28] <dpittman> betsys: Hrm. stahnma, we don't have our own Solaris packages, do we? | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:22:53] <betsys> we do need to start off with the free version not Enterprise, for the POC | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:23:06] <dpittman> betsys: why? | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:23:28] <rodjek> dpittman: nah, they're built by a 3rd party | ||
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| [2012/01/25 02:24:44] <betsys> dpittman: cause we want to get it to work befor we go ask for $$$ and we have several hundred boxes | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:25:10] <betsys> don't want to build something that's going to self destruct | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:25:12] <dpittman> betsys: Fair enough. I did wonder. :) | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:25:32] <dpittman> betsys: The ten free licenses don't really scale up to that size PoC and all. :) | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:25:51] <betsys> one reason we want to use puppet is that our engineering team has a real whiz who's built a ton of stuff with puppet and foreman. I'm on the production side and if I can hook into his stuff it'll be ahuge step towards devops -itude | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:26:22] <betsys> then my plan is to go make a case for enterprise when we get our vmware stuff rolled out | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:26:30] <dpittman> betsys: *nod* Sadly, I have no Solaris 10, so can't advise there. Other than, generally speaking, Ruby 1.8.7 is going to be better tested and easier than 1.9.2 will be, today. :) | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:27:00] <betsys> There's a theory that we'll be off Solaris sometime. | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:27:57] <dpittman> betsys: We have the same theory about 1.8.7. ;) | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:28:03] <ohadlevy> betsys: what do you need for solaris? | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:28:04] <betsys> where do I even get ruby 1.8.7 | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:28:29] <betsys> and is it going to play nice with all this other SFW software that is all latest and greatest? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 02:29:26] <betsys> I am not touching Blastwave with a 100 foot pole | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:29:38] <Dominic> betsys: for Solaris, I'd recommend OpenCSW as a source for packages. It does sit under /opt/csw though so will conflict with Blastwave, but the stack is reliable and Puppet is kept up to date by phips. | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:30:02] <ohadlevy> +1 | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:30:25] <betsys> is opencsw more reliable than blastwave? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 02:30:56] <Dominic> I haven't compared them, but have been using it for some time without any problems. The dev team's active too. | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:31:03] <betsys> ok Im switching to another machine here | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:31:20] <Dominic> they ship both Ruby 1.8 and 1.9, I think the puppet package is current depending on 1.8 | ||
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| [2012/01/25 02:34:01] <betsys> whee! | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:34:16] <betsys> "pkgutil -i puppet" is producing action | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:34:46] <betsys> so are some of you puppetlabs folks? Always good to say it was an official recomemndation if it was | ||
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| [2012/01/25 02:35:33] <betsys> oh crap, this isn't going to work in a zone | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:35:37] <mosen> There are puppetlabs people here often | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:35:39] <betsys> mkdir /usr/sadm/install/scripts/i.cswpreserveconf mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/sadm/install/scripts/i.cswpreserveconf': Read-only file system | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:36:03] <betsys> must be a conf file to tweak | ||
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| [2012/01/25 02:36:22] <tremble> mosen: Yeah, but most of them are on the US West Coast | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:36:34] <mosen> tremble, yep | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:36:54] <dpittman> betsys: Neither Dominic or ohadlevy are, but they are awesome members of the community. (...and wrote foreman, in the later case) | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:37:02] <dpittman> betsys: I am, but I know nothing of these repositories. ;) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 02:40:07] <betsys> so any ideas ho to tell opencsw pkgadd to stay out of /usr? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 02:41:15] <betsys> OK I can't use openCSW. DANG | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:41:24] <betsys> http://wiki.opencsw.org/cswclassutils-package | ||
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| [2012/01/25 02:46:02] <octane-> morning | ||
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| [2012/01/25 02:46:58] <betsys> I'm going to try opencsw on a test box | ||
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| [2012/01/25 02:50:42] <betsys> wow that certainly took a lot less time | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:50:56] <betsys> !!THANK YOU!! | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:51:20] <betsys> upside: opencsw puppet freaking WORKED. Downside: need to install it in solaris global zone which is a harder change to sell | ||
| [2012/01/25 02:52:25] <betsys> ok bedtime. well it was bedtime five hours ago | ||
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| [2012/01/25 03:46:40] <SpComb> puppet 2.6.2 apply is pegging at 100% cpu and taking several minutes to copy each file in a `file { recurse => true }` :/ | ||
| [2012/01/25 03:47:22] <SpComb> `--verbose --debug` isn't showing anything to explain what it would hang on | ||
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| [2012/01/25 03:50:24] <rodjek> SpComb: is there a lot of files in the folder you're recursively managing? | ||
| [2012/01/25 03:50:37] <SpComb> no, like a handful of .dotfiles in a homedir | ||
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| [2012/01/25 03:51:50] <SpComb> although wait, it's enumerating all the files on the destination, isn't it? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 03:53:58] <SpComb> the `source => [ ... ]` contains maybe five files, but the `path => "/home/..."` is big | ||
| [2012/01/25 03:54:32] <rodjek> SpComb: yes, it checks all the files on the destination | ||
| [2012/01/25 03:54:46] <rodjek> recurse really shouldn't be used imho | ||
| [2012/01/25 03:54:54] <SpComb> hrmph, seems like it | ||
| [2012/01/25 03:55:34] <SpComb> I was trying to manage dotfiles in my homedirs, I guess I should find some other mechanism for that | ||
| [2012/01/25 03:56:05] <Wicla> Hi. Are there no longer possible to first create a node definition which calls a parameterized class which uses a variable as parameter. This node is later inherited by another node which defines/redefines this variable? See example. http://pastebin.com/AyssjscE | ||
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| [2012/01/25 03:58:20] <Hunner> Wicla: refacter 'node basenode' into 'class baseclass' in a baseclass module, then instead of inheriting, use `include baseclass` after setting $localvariable | ||
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| [2012/01/25 04:00:39] <Hunner> Wicla: something like http://pastebin.com/k0XKbiHu | ||
| [2012/01/25 04:00:54] <Hunner> Of course that's still bad practice | ||
| [2012/01/25 04:01:17] <Hunner> And will throw warnings about deprecated dynamic scoping | ||
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| [2012/01/25 04:01:57] <Wicla> ah so it's no longer support as stated by docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/scope_and_puppet.html? | ||
| [2012/01/25 04:02:38] <henk> I don’t get the point… What’s supposed to be the purpose of this construct? Apart from being complex and using inheritance where probably something better could be used? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 04:22:42] <Dominic> betsys: glad that worked. I thought you could install the packages in a non-global zone, perhaps phips can confirm when he's around. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 04:27:42] <Wicla> henk: yeah might be true. Current problem I'm having is that I'm want the module to be defined in a basenode which is later inherited by other nodes. But some groups of nodes need to redefine settings sent to this class. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 04:30:06] <laptoplinus> Notify { 'Hello everyone' : } | ||
| [2012/01/25 04:31:15] <misc> ah ah | ||
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| [2012/01/25 04:36:50] <erthad> hiall | ||
| [2012/01/25 04:37:00] <erthad> [2010/10/10 08:42:25] <Volcane> aydotout: hornetq works kinda but its a pain in the arse so not recommended | ||
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| [2012/01/25 04:37:19] <erthad> what's wrong with mcollective running using hornetq ? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 04:48:05] <KristianDK> Hey, I've been trying to install puppet master on a new domain, puppet.domain.tld - however, usually i set hostname to puppet.domain.tld (by changing /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts), but this time i get an error: hostname was not match with the server certificate - any ideas how to get further with this? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 04:55:04] <KristianDK> I could also change this question to: what is the correct hostname of the puppet master (puppet or fqdn) and how do i change it in that case? | ||
| [2012/01/25 04:56:34] <kjetilho> it is your client which complains. you need to use one of the names in the master's certificate | ||
| [2012/01/25 04:56:55] <kjetilho> by default puppet will generate a master certificate with the name "puppet" and the servers FQDN at that time | ||
| [2012/01/25 04:57:17] <KristianDK> kjetilho, it seems that my puppet master didn't generate one for "puppet", use for the FQDN | ||
| [2012/01/25 04:57:29] <KristianDK> puppet agent --test --server puppet.domain.tld works | ||
| [2012/01/25 04:57:36] <KristianDK> (I'm running puppet agent on the puppet master) | ||
| [2012/01/25 04:57:42] <kjetilho> and "getent hosts puppet" works? | ||
| [2012/01/25 04:58:13] <KristianDK> returns <ip> puppet puppet.domain.tld | ||
| [2012/01/25 04:58:30] <kjetilho> hmm. so "--server puppet" fails? | ||
| [2012/01/25 04:58:36] <KristianDK> yes | ||
| [2012/01/25 04:58:48] <KristianDK> on the puppet master itself | ||
| [2012/01/25 04:59:08] <kjetilho> ok, perhaps the defaults for the certificate have changed | ||
| [2012/01/25 04:59:26] <KristianDK> i guess, previously i had no problems settings this up :(' | ||
| [2012/01/25 04:59:36] <KristianDK> but do you know a way to regenerate the master certicate?= | ||
| [2012/01/25 04:59:47] <kjetilho> it's just a standard X509 cert | ||
| [2012/01/25 04:59:58] <kjetilho> so it's the same way as you would do for Apache | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:00:09] <kjetilho> just use Puppet's CA | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:00:24] <henk> Wicla: You basically just answered the question about the point with “I don’t know, but I want it”… | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:00:57] <KristianDK> kjetilho, actually I wouldn't know how to do that, but in that case there is no puppet command to do it? | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:01:07] <kjetilho> I don't know :-) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:02:06] <henk> examine the cert to find the names in it | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:02:24] <henk> openssl x509 -in certfile -noout -text or something | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:05:03] <KristianDK> henk, "Issuer" ? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:05:12] <KristianDK> or "Subject"? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:06:33] <henk> KristianDK: Subject and Subject Alternative Name | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:10:50] <KristianDK> henk, "openssl x509 -text -noout -in /var/lib/puppet/ssl/certs/" in that directory there is "puppet.pem" and "puppet.domain.tld.pem", they have the same subject as their filename | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:13:38] <henk> KristianDK: I have ca.pem and pigeon.example.org. yes, I did experience the same problem when I called my masters host "puppet", but once I gave it a proper hostname and just pointed puppet to that name via a CNAME things worked fine. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:14:44] <KristianDK> henk, so you recommend to give it a real name, e.g. pigeon.example.org and CNAME puppet.example.org -> pigeon.example.org? How do i set /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts in that case? | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:15:38] <Wicla> henk: I did say that I want to be able to use this class early in the chain (to make it easy updating all puppets manipulating a single entry instead of multiple). But since some nodes needs to be configured differently I want to be able to edit a variable (or similar) to manipulate a file created by the module in question. | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:16:21] <Wicla> Or are the solution to make a separate class (module) which handles the file in question? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:17:30] <henk> echo pigeon > /etc/hostname; sed -i '/ipaddress/d'; echo ipaddress pigeon.example.org pigeon puppet >> /etc/hosts (not tested, may break things if you don’t know what it does and don’t think for yourself if you want that!) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:19:46] <henk> Wicla: What you do there has no influence on the order of things AFAIK, so when you want this class to be applied seems irrelevant. And you can have all this variable-dependent stuff done just as well without inheritance… | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:20:05] <KristianDK> henk, looks valid, but i see what you want to do there - thanks a lot, will try it out | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:20:18] <KristianDK> henk, would it be nescescary to reinstall or? | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:20:28] <KristianDK> for puppet to pickup the new names | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:20:49] <henk> KristianDK: I’m not sure, but at least the certs would have to be regenerated. | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:21:04] <KristianDK> henk, any convenient one liner for that as well? :D | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:21:23] <KristianDK> (if ok, ill put this together to a blog post once it works, so people hopefully can find it on google) | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:23:07] <henk> I’d have to try for myself, sorry. I’d first try to simply stop the master and move it’s cert somewhere safe (but not the ca-cert if you already have clients!), then restart the master. It might regenerate its cert… | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:23:22] <KristianDK> henk, its a completely new master | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:23:38] <KristianDK> henk, would it work if i delete /var/lib/puppet ? | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:23:41] <henk> ok, still try if it works that way, I’d be interested :) | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:23:47] <KristianDK> sure | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:24:10] <KristianDK> so e.g. mv /var/lib/puppet/ssl/certs/ /var/lib/puppet/ssl/certs.bkup/ ? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:24:25] <henk> IIRC removing /var/lib/puppet/ssl/* is enough. | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:24:25] <KristianDK> or other certificates as well? | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:24:41] <KristianDK> henk, ok, ill try that ;) | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:24:58] <henk> As I said: I’d only move the masters cert, not the ca.cert | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:25:12] <henk> Which you said you did not have?! | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:26:17] <KristianDK> what subdir would it be in, compared to /var/lib/puppet/ssl ? | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:26:30] <henk> certs | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:26:42] <KristianDK> henk, there i have ca.pem | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:26:51] <KristianDK> and then puppet.pem and puppet.example.org | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:26:54] <henk> ah perfect, try leaving that in place | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:27:06] <henk> delete the others. puppet.pem is a mishap due to wrong hostname | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:27:26] <KristianDK> ok, so deleting the two others should do it, instead of wiping /var/lib/puppet/ssl ? | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:27:55] <henk> _might_ do it ;) I’m not sure how puppet works regarding ssl… | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:28:51] <KristianDK> ok, deleted now | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:28:55] <KristianDK> then ill just rename it to something | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:29:42] <henk> hm, nice hostname scheme :) something.example.org, anything.example.org, whatever.example.org, whogivesafsck.example.org… :-p | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:29:57] <KristianDK> :P | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:30:42] <kjetilho> what.example.org | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:31:02] <kjetilho> "- something is down. - what is down? NO, something is down!" | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:31:56] <henk> hrhr, reminds me of "you want kofi? Who? No, hu is the new leader of china" | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:32:21] <KristianDK> henk, unfortunately your one-liner doesn't work - i get some errors with the "sed" part | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:32:52] <KristianDK> sed -i '/ipaddress/d'; echo ipaddress | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:33:21] <KristianDK> shouldn't sed get some input? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:35:33] <henk> KristianDK: Substitute ipaddress with the ipaddress of your puppet master that you put in /etc/hosts | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:35:49] <KristianDK> henk, ah, i thought it was some magic :D | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:35:52] <henk> KristianDK: '/ipaddress/d' just deletes all lines matching ipaddress | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:36:20] <henk> half autmagiced ;) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:36:56] <KristianDK> henk, still get "see: no input files" when executing the entire command | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:37:26] <henk> ha, of course, forgot the /etc/hosts at the end | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:37:42] <henk> sed -i '/ip…/d' /etc/hosts | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:37:45] <KristianDK> :D | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:38:00] <KristianDK> henk, works perfectly | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:38:32] <KristianDK> henk, do you know if its required to restart it to take effect with the hostname? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:38:39] <henk> the server? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:38:42] <KristianDK> yeah | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:38:51] <KristianDK> hostname / hostname -f still returns the old stuff | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:39:09] <KristianDK> don't know if its sufficient to restart "networking"? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:39:26] <KristianDK> it seems its not | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:39:37] <KristianDK> ill just restart it, its not active anyway | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:39:37] <KristianDK> sec | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:39:42] <henk> Not necessarily, you can just do what the hostname init script does, i.e. hostname -F /etc/hostname | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:39:49] <KristianDK> ah right | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:39:59] <henk> That should be enough. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:40:32] <KristianDK> henk, now there is only one certificate with the new fqdn | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:41:18] <KristianDK> now its the same problem again, "puppet agent --test" returns hostname was not match with the server certificate - because its looking for "puppet" but the server have the FQDN certificate | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:41:51] <KristianDK> --server pigeon now works | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:42:30] <henk> examine the cert, what subjects are in there? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:43:47] <KristianDK> Subject: CN=pigeon.example.org | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:44:28] <henk> That’s all? No altname for puppet.example.org? | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:44:36] <KristianDK> henk, noep | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:44:40] <KristianDK> nope * | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:45:48] <henk> oh, wonder why it does that on the initial installation o_O | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:50:15] <KristianDK> henk, yeah, its kind of weird | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:50:30] <KristianDK> but as i see it, if you then want to use the default configuration, the hostname must be puppet, right? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:53:00] <KristianDK> if i run hostname puppet and change /etc/hosts so puppet is on the first line, it works | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:54:19] <henk> it works? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:54:25] <henk> What’s 'it'? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:54:35] <KristianDK> puppet agent --test without specifying a server | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:54:50] <henk> ah, yes | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:55:48] <henk> hm, are you sure there are no alternative names? | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:55:59] <henk> nvm, if the client fails, it’s rather clear… | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:56:10] <KristianDK> henk, yeah | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:56:18] <KristianDK> but do you know how to set it up with alt names? | ||
| [2012/01/25 05:56:28] <KristianDK> or is it just deprecated in never versions of puppet? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 05:59:13] <henk> You can just create your own cert manually with settings as you like, but I’m not sure what puppet expects and how it fails if those expectations are not met, so maybe you have to play a bit. Or start anew with a proper hostname and not a role as a hostname ;) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 06:06:49] <KristianDK> henk, well, this is how puppet expects it | ||
| [2012/01/25 06:06:54] <KristianDK> it looks for hosts called puppet | ||
| [2012/01/25 06:07:26] <KristianDK> so if i call it puppet, i just have to do "apt-get install puppet && puppet agent --run-once" in the client and they work | ||
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| [2012/01/25 06:07:43] <henk> I mean what the master expects to see in its cert. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 06:08:22] <KristianDK> have to leave for lunch, brb | ||
| [2012/01/25 06:08:34] <henk> And if you call it puppet you are just creating problems. Rather give it a proper name and let puppet point to that in DNS. Makes it way easier when you have to make a new puppetmaster. | ||
| [2012/01/25 06:09:12] <henk> Same goes for stuff like ns1, www, and mail and generally all other role names. NEVER assign them to a host themselves only let them point to actual names. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 06:36:36] <cirbri> Is there any way to have a resource subscribed to ever instance of some other resource,. like subscribe => File[*] | ||
| [2012/01/25 06:36:39] <cirbri> ? | ||
| [2012/01/25 06:39:14] <cirbri> I.e. exec { "echo 'you create file/s' > /tmp/foo": subscribe = File[*]; } | ||
| [2012/01/25 06:39:23] <cirbri> ?? | ||
| [2012/01/25 06:39:29] <henk> Sounds naughty… | ||
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| [2012/01/25 06:40:48] <_rc> there's probably some syntax nonsense around file {<||>} { notify => Exec["blah"] } but really why do you want it | ||
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| [2012/01/25 06:46:03] <gilesw> heya all, anyone know how to get rid of the already initialized constant MONTHNAMES warning from date.rb when running puppet? | ||
| [2012/01/25 06:46:39] <cirbri> _rc: Don't worry, my reason for wanting it is better than that. | ||
| [2012/01/25 06:47:02] <_rc> cirbri: you didn't say why you wanted it | ||
| [2012/01/25 06:48:45] <henk> Of course you think your reason is better, you wouldn’t ask if you didn’t, would you? If you don’t care that we would like to know and understand, I don’t care about you or your problem. | ||
| [2012/01/25 06:49:07] <cirbri> I have a class, we'll call it class a::b, and it doesn't always get included with class a::a, but if it is included it needs to know when class a::a creates files. | ||
| [2012/01/25 06:49:18] <cirbri> henk: I'm trying.. I just don't like to complicate things. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 06:50:45] <cirbri> Because class a::b want's to concatante them all (they're all in the same directory, so it doesn't need to know the filenames) | ||
| [2012/01/25 06:50:59] <cirbri> It just needs to know when these files change. | ||
| [2012/01/25 06:51:23] <cirbri> And because a::b isn't always included, I can't have those file or the directory above notify it. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 06:58:01] <henk> Yeah, that explains what you do, but we are asking for the why… | ||
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| [2012/01/25 06:59:44] <_rc> If we understood the problem, we could possibly give you a simpler solution, but instead you've already decided on complex solution Y. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 07:02:23] <cirbri> How far back do you want to go? Fair enough, I have a whole load of custom Icinga classes and defines, one of these defines create contacts definitions -- one per file -- we also have a legacy notification script that relies on being able to read all the contact defs in a single file. Hence I need to concatanate a bunch of files when this legacy script is installed (via a class). | ||
| [2012/01/25 07:03:02] <_rc> you're installing the script? | ||
| [2012/01/25 07:03:07] <cirbri> Aye. | ||
| [2012/01/25 07:03:12] <_rc> it's so very legacy you can't fix it? | ||
| [2012/01/25 07:03:39] <cirbri> Well, no. I just wanted to avoid us having a modified one until we want to retire the old system. | ||
| [2012/01/25 07:03:54] <cirbri> And I thought that this could be a neat kludge until then. | ||
| [2012/01/25 07:04:03] <_rc> it's not. modify the script. | ||
| [2012/01/25 07:04:41] <cirbri> That means having two versions of the script that'll require maintaining until we retire the older Nagios systems. | ||
| [2012/01/25 07:04:48] <cirbri> I'd really rather not. | ||
| [2012/01/25 07:05:00] <_rc> no, have one script that knows to look at fragments and the big file | ||
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| [2012/01/25 07:06:48] <cirbri> Yeah, I'd thought of that. I'm just gonna have two of them, then. | ||
| [2012/01/25 07:06:59] <cirbri> I have my reasons. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 07:29:06] <hno2> Can I include templates from templates somehow? | ||
| [2012/01/25 07:31:11] <_rc> yes, beware deep recursion. <%= scope.function_template(["some/other/template"]) %> | ||
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| [2012/01/25 07:45:24] <telmich> hello | ||
| [2012/01/25 07:46:27] <telmich> if I've a variable that is $icinga_packages = ["icinga", "icinga-gui", "nagios-plugins", "nagios-plugins-setuid"], how can I reference the packages as a requirement? like require => [Package[...]]? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 07:47:35] <duritong> telmich: Package[$icinga_packages] does not work? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 07:48:12] <telmich> duritong: haven't tried that, I was looking in the documentation and did not find an example / real world use of this | ||
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| [2012/01/25 07:50:46] <duritong> telmich: seems to work: http://fpaste.org/G5Qk/ | ||
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| [2012/01/25 07:54:21] <zerthimon> hello, got a question. Now when dynamic scoping is on the road to retirement, how should I go about introducing different node types (node that use the same modules but do different actions etc.) ? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 08:00:08] <hno2> Is there some reasonable example defining node specific parameters that get used in module templates? | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:00:49] <hno2> I understand how to pass parameters down to classes as class parameters, but not sure how to scale it properly as number of parameters increase. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 08:01:39] <hno2> also a little unsure on when to use include instead of class {...:} | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:02:27] <cirbri> No, I'm leaving those scripts alone -- I've just have the init script concatanate them each time it get restarted. | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:02:32] <cirbri> Pff. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 08:03:18] <henk> hno2: You group related stuff into classes and include those in the appropriate places… | ||
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| [2012/01/25 08:06:32] <hno2> henk, not sure that answers any of the questions. I know both include 'someclass' and class { 'someclass':}. But when is it best to use one or the other? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 08:06:48] <mealstrom> ls /var/log/messages | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:06:53] <henk> hno2: oh, that class syntax you mean, sorry! | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:06:58] <mealstrom> oops. sr | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:07:46] <henk> hno2: IIRC you only have to use the latter with parameterized classes. Apart from that, they are the same. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 08:08:59] <hno2> my main question however is the forst, how to correctly deal with node parameters which need to be inherited down to a number of classes. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 08:10:52] <zerthimon> hno2: something I'm trying to figure out also | ||
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| [2012/01/25 08:10:59] <Volcane> use hiera | ||
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| [2012/01/25 08:15:42] <zerthimon> got production and staging servers that needs to be configured differently, but how do I tell my modules that It's dealing with production or staging servers ? As I dont wanna create different modules for every server type... | ||
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| [2012/01/25 08:16:30] <zerthimon> I read that defining node variable will not work .. | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:16:49] <Volcane> puppet supports environments natively | ||
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| [2012/01/25 08:18:38] <raz> hmm | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:18:40] <Evolution> I'm trying to determine the best way to deploy puppet... is there any documentation on doing this in a tree structure? for example having a puppet master deploy a second puppet master (which is also a client of the original master)? | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:18:50] <raz> how do i have puppet create a directory if it not exists - but also tolerate a symlink in the same place? | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:20:21] <henk> replace => false IIRC | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:20:23] <henk> ref:type | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:20:24] <gepetto> henk: ref: ref:type is http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/latest/type.html "Puppet Labs" | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:20:55] <raz> hmm | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:21:15] <raz> Whether or not to replace a file that is sourced but exists. This is useful for using file sources purely for initialization. Valid values are true (also called yes), false (also called no). | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:21:26] <raz> not clear to me from that paragraph but i'll try it out ;) | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:23:03] <zerthimon> can a node belong to more than one environment in puppet ? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 08:25:38] <karthick1987> How many hosts can puppetmaster handle? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 08:25:59] <icezimm> karthick1987: depends on your server and your config | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:26:07] <Volcane> karthick1987: there are people handling 10s of thousands | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:26:52] <karthick1987> Volcane: We have 400 machines. Will one puppetmaster support? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 08:27:12] <icezimm> karthick1987: depends on the pooling time of the clietns | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:27:21] <telmich> can I somehow include all classes that are named icinga2::svc-*? using include icinga2::svc-* results in Syntax error at '*'; expected '}' | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:27:21] <icezimm> karthick1987: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/scaling.html this can help you if you need | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:27:22] <Southern_Gentlem> as long as your bandwidth lasts | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:28:08] <icezimm> karthick1987: depends if your puppet master is a amd k6-ii 500 or a xeon quad core hahah | ||
| [2012/01/25 08:28:33] <Volcane> karthick1987: depends on the size of your catalog, size of your master, amount of file copies etc. certainly on a medium size EC2 node running a master behind passenger its been shown that you can serve 400 clients with a small catalog | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:02:49] <Volcane> NuclearLucifer: he's saying its not discovering agents and the agent isnt showing up in mco inventory | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:02:52] <Volcane> oops, wrong # | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:19:23] <manager-of-it> hello | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:19:35] <manager-of-it> anyone home? | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:19:59] <hno2> yes | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:20:13] <Southern_Gentlem> no i am at work | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:20:30] <manager-of-it> @southen_gent LOL | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:21:47] <manager-of-it> new up for helping me with a yum prereq prob installing puppet ? I have a newer version of ruby installed than what puppet is requiring and yum install fails | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:22:20] <manager-of-it> NOT new --- *en1 | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:24:23] <takamichi> I'm using Puppet to configure VPN servers. I need to specify the IP's of the radius authentication servers. At the moment I have declared the IP's in variables in the node definition and then simply used them in the erb templates. I've read that I should instead be passing these values to a class as parameters but I don't understand why I should (I know how to). Could any shed some light on | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:24:23] <takamichi> where (non-factor) information should be defined and how it should be used in my example? | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:24:25] @ Quit: fronlius: Quit: fronlius | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:24:48] <Volcane> manager-of-it: you'll need to tehn make your own puppet packages - the spec file is in the tarball | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:28:21] <manager-of-it> @volcane sigh… it's just one old host that needs puppet. tx u for reply | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:28:53] <Volcane> you could install by gems too, or from source etc | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:29:10] <Volcane> but anyway, building custom things have a cost that needs to be paid unfortunately | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:30:27] <manager-of-it> seems kinda odd though, to depend on an older package and fail to install | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:31:01] <Volcane> we wouldnt know - we can only go by the very limited amount of information you provided | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:31:20] <|Majestic|> manager-of-it: give me one second - will share me special install-puppet script which I use on any new systems. This works for debian & centos machines. | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:31:54] <crs> Hi there. Does puppet have elif? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:32:01] <|Majestic|> http://pastie.org/3250046 | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:32:18] <manager-of-it> Transaction Check Error: | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:32:19] <manager-of-it> package ruby-libs-1.8.6.111-1 (which is newer than ruby-libs-1.8.5-19.el5_6.1) is already installed | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:32:19] <manager-of-it> file /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/abbrev.rb from install of ruby-libs-1.8.5-19.el5_6.1 conflicts with file from package ruby-libs-1.8.6.111-1 | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:32:19] <|Majestic|> copy that to a file name of yoru choosing.. i.e. install-puppet.sh or whatever. | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:32:41] <manager-of-it> @Majestic ty… taking a look now | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:32:59] <Volcane> your custom ruby conflicts with the system one - so it cant go ahead | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:33:47] <|Majestic|> manager-of-it: my script wont fix your issue though - its designed for clean system in mind i.e. fresh install | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:34:44] <|Majestic|> tested with debian 6 (squeeze) & centos 5.x - works flawless. If you dont automaticly accept certs like I dont.. it will keep trying every 10 seconds to connect.. in the meantime just pop on your master and sign the cert with puppetca --sign fqdn | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:34:58] <|Majestic|> or you can just cheat and use puppetca --sign --all | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:35:06] <henk> crs: yes | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:36:09] <manager-of-it> @majestic I've done about 20-30 puppet installs and have about 100 more to go. this will help! | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:37:00] <|Majestic|> only reason why I wrote it is.. was having major issues with centos puppet install - the issue I was getting was to do with augeas - as the version which was being installed was so anchient puppet wasnt directly complaning but wasnt doing what I wanted :) | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:37:03] <|Majestic|> yw :) | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:37:22] <|Majestic|> do change the mirror line for your yum repo | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:37:22] <manager-of-it> @volcane I don't think "ruby-libs-1.8.6.111-1" is custom. it was installed via yum/rpm | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:37:31] <|Majestic|> its using one of my servers - should of removed it :) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:37:38] <|Majestic|> done my own yum mirror due to.. | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:38:00] <|Majestic|> puppetlabs one is extreamly slow at times and was taking 5 mins sometimes just to do an apt-get update | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:38:01] <|Majestic|> LOL | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:38:05] <Volcane> manager-of-it: i think it is. | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:38:08] <|Majestic|> now supper speedy :) | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:38:16] <|Majestic|> if you want the mirror script as well | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:38:19] <|Majestic|> give me 30 secs | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:38:20] <Volcane> manager-of-it: show 'rpm -qi ruby-libs-1.8.6.111-1' on pastie.org | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:38:32] <_rc> manager-of-it: it may be an rpm, but it doesn't make it from a standard repository | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:38:32] <|Majestic|> no public repo so have to use pastie fornow hope you dont mind | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:38:54] <crs> henk: Couldn't find in documentation though. Where can I see it? | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:39:13] <henk> crs: guide:language_guide | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:39:14] <gepetto> henk: crs: guide:language_guide is http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/language_guide.html "Puppet Labs" | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:39:29] <henk> crs: Conditionals | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:40:08] <crs> henk: Looked at it and overlooked that. Can see it now. thanks. | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:40:27] <henk> crs: happens :) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:40:38] <manager-of-it> @volcane http://pastie.org/3250102 | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:40:53] <|Majestic|> http://pastie.org/3250104 - change the paths to suit etc.. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:41:09] <Volcane> manager-of-it: notice the buildhost "Build Host: lucutus.jablko.pl" | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:41:17] <Volcane> manager-of-it: thats not an official rpm from centos/redhat etc | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:41:41] <Volcane> manager-of-it: so it might be installed with yum, but its a custom package from somewhere and its conflicting with the native ones | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:41:43] <manager-of-it> got it. feh. I'm at new job, with old boxes | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:42:14] <|Majestic|> I rememeber thoughs days of a "not so smooth" handover | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:43:11] <manager-of-it> @volcane tx u vm! | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:44:17] <IndyMichaelB> in a template, if a variable equals a certain string I want to print a line, otherwise I don't want the line. I'm struggling with the correct syntax, not sure my if is correct. Any suggestions? I'm trying syntax like <% if $app == "foo" %><%= testing %><% end %> | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:45:05] <|Majestic|> oh manager-of-it if you use me install script make sure you read it throughly first.. it will adjust the yum porities to what I use and these maybe not what you intend. so do beware. I am sure you can spot where it does it.. was only a quick knock up job the other day. | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:45:33] <manager-of-it> @mejstic will do! tx! | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:45:43] <|Majestic|> it wasnt designed to be shared hence no veriables.. but I may adjust it in the future when I have a spare 5 mins | ||
| [2012/01/25 09:46:40] <|Majestic|> anytime. have fun but I do suggest.. make your own puppetlabs repo mirror or you will feel pain :) - setup a cron job with that other script for once a day and you be sorted. Repos are small.. I thnk 3 debian based repos both archs was around 127mb | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:46:48] <|Majestic|> yum is probbaly about the same without me chekcing | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:49:48] <Guest10544> Hello. I have query regarding puppet dashboard | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:51:00] <Guest10544> is there any development guide for puppet dashboard | ||
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| [2012/01/25 09:51:02] <Guest10544> ? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 10:04:42] <IndyMichaelB> The following template entry adds text if app == srvc, but otherwise puts a blank line in the file. I'd like to not have the blank line. <% if app == "srvc" %> SetEnvIf Request_URI "^/services/salesforce/*" nokeepalive<% end %> | ||
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| [2012/01/25 10:06:26] <Volcane> IndyMichaelB: ending in %> adds blanks -%> doesnt | ||
| [2012/01/25 10:06:27] <_rc> IndyMichaelB: look at putting a - inside the tags to indicate whitespace should be chomped | ||
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| [2012/01/25 10:07:42] <IndyMichaelB> Volcane: ty | ||
| [2012/01/25 10:07:47] <IndyMichaelB> _rc: ty | ||
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| [2012/01/25 10:18:40] <jamescarr> so I've been running into a small problem while using puppet to define my dev environment that annoys me... | ||
| [2012/01/25 10:18:58] <jamescarr> basically, I'll define a dependency on, say, libssldev to make it download it | ||
| [2012/01/25 10:19:16] <jamescarr> but later I include a module that already brings it in | ||
| [2012/01/25 10:19:20] <jamescarr> and my puppet install fails | ||
| [2012/01/25 10:19:52] <eventi> Can you put an example in pastebin.com | ||
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| [2012/01/25 10:20:04] <eventi> or hastebin.com - that things slick :) | ||
| [2012/01/25 10:20:17] <Volcane> seems you have a module that doesnt do what its core responsibility is | ||
| [2012/01/25 10:20:24] <Volcane> its installing other slightly related software | ||
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| [2012/01/25 10:20:33] <Volcane> instead of including a module that installs the related software | ||
| [2012/01/25 10:21:03] <Volcane> which is why you can include multiple times | ||
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| [2012/01/25 10:22:03] <jamescarr> http://hastebin.com/vasafivufa.m | ||
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| [2012/01/25 10:22:18] <jamescarr> oh... hold on... I am using this module: | ||
| [2012/01/25 10:22:31] <jamescarr> https://github.com/blt04/puppet-rvm | ||
| [2012/01/25 10:23:26] <jamescarr> basically, I had to remove my ensure present declarations for git-core and libssl-dev | ||
| [2012/01/25 10:23:32] <jamescarr> when using that module | ||
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| [2012/01/25 11:09:39] <takamichi> Following my previous question, would this be the correct way to pass host specific information to a class? - http://pastebin.com/D138F7mw | ||
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| [2012/01/25 11:10:32] <eventi> takamichi: that paste is gone :( | ||
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| [2012/01/25 11:11:35] <takamichi> woops! one sec.. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 11:12:30] <takamichi> eventi: http://pastebin.com/DQXAPkb6 | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:07:30] <Diranged> how can i do some math in a puppet manifest? | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:07:37] <Diranged> ie.. $::memorysize * 0.5 | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:07:38] <Diranged> for example | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:27:48] <mfridh> man I don't get it.. and I'm feeling blind and stupid right now...: Error 400 on SERVER: Could not find class package::sysstat in namespaces base at /etc/puppet/environments/development/modules/base/manifests/init.pp:146 on node | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:28:27] <_rc> it means it can't find that class | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:28:57] <_rc> where is your class package::sysstat declared? | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:29:09] <mfridh> _rc: modules/package/manifests/sysstat.pp | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:30:43] <mfridh> same manifests work in another environment... I just don't get it | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:30:48] <_rc> seems legit. is that in your environment's module_path? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:32:25] <mfridh> yeah, well.. there's gotta be something I missed here, a silly typo somewhere | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:32:33] <mfridh> I'll go dig some more | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:32:49] <_rc> start preparing a pastie | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:34:01] <mfridh> ugh | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:34:03] <mfridh> permissions problem | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:34:27] <mfridh> sudo -u puppet cat /etc/puppet/environments/development/modules/package/manifests/sysstat.pp | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:34:30] <mfridh> cat: /etc/puppet/environments/development/modules/package/manifests/sysstat.pp: Permission denied | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:34:33] <mfridh> sorry for the noise :D | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:34:56] <mfridh> I probably need to fix my umask in my post-receive deploy script | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:37:27] <spicyWith> hi there, I'm new to puppet (actually trying to decide between puppet and chef). Is puppet enterprise the version of puppet I should be considering or are there more out there? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:38:12] <Volcane> spicyWith: do you intend to pay for support? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:38:26] <spicyWith> Volcane: probably not | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:39:03] <Volcane> there's an opensource version too | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:41:30] <aaron> anyone here know about how to use puppet enterprise? | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:41:36] @ aaron is now known as Guest32534 | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:42:20] <spicyWith> Volcane: puppet home page really pushes for enterprise 2.0, so I assumed it was the open source version and you could pay for support on top of it, but I guess that's not the case | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:42:23] <dpittman> Guest32534: (aka aaron), sure. You will find more direct experience in the `pe-users` mailing list, but the core of Puppet in PE is literally the same code as the FOSS Puppet, so anything that applies to the later applies to the former. (Modulo the specific version shipped, of course.) | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:42:48] <dpittman> spicyWith: It is, more or less. Plus a handful of other little bits on top, like a compliance GUI. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:43:30] <spicyWith> dpittman: so where do we find the open source version? all the download links lead to PE 2.0 :( | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:43:56] <dpittman> spicyWith: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/installation.html | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:44:21] <dpittman> spicyWith: ...or https://github.com/puppetlabs/{facter,puppet}, or your distribution. (I recommend the last, generally) | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:44:39] <dpittman> spicyWith: I don't know where on the corporate website links to that. I don't ofter use it, being a developer and all. :) | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:44:41] <Guest32534> dpittman: thanks for the great information! do you know where there is documentation on how to use the compliance feature? | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:44:49] <spicyWith> dpittman: thanks :) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:45:29] <dpittman> Guest32534: off-hand, no. I know we have links from inside the PE UI to the docs, but I don't know where it lives. That developer thing again - I seldom use the finished product. Sorry. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:46:03] <Guest32534> dpittman: which version do you use? | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:46:30] <nfagerlund> Guest32534: Probably start with http://docs.puppetlabs.com/pe/2.0/compliance_basics.html | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:46:42] <dpittman> Guest32534: I am one of the developers at Puppet Labs, so I mostly write code against the head of the branches. | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:46:48] <dpittman> nfagerlund++ | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:46:54] <spicyWith> dpittman: maybe you can help me with something else. I'm trying to figure out where to find manifests. I was looking through forge.puppetlabs.com but a lot of the manifests there seemed immature compared to what I was expecting from an established product, Is there a better place/way to find them? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:55:57] <dpittman> spicyWith: We are working to make the forge more awesome at the moment, and it easier to build reusable modules, but there is a shortfall in the area. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:55:58] <dpittman> spicyWith: There are some big examples out there, like the example42 group's manifests. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:55:59] <dpittman> spicyWith: http://www.example42.com/ - such a cute name for a company too. :) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:57:04] <mfridh> So, I just created an addition to my dell puppet module to have it upgrade firmwares automatically and reboot the server (I intend to use it on first boot and on demand) - I check "if $::apply_firmware" and include my class, and run it like: FACTER_apply_firmware=true puppet agent -vt . I'm sure it's not the only way but is it the simplest? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:57:55] <spicyWith> dpittman: thanks. How do you go about finding puppet modules. For example, I'd like to avoid writing something for ifs + mdadm if possible. | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:58:00] <mfridh> I was thinking about tags, perhaps I can replace the if with if tagged(something) ? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:58:41] <dpittman> spicyWith: Back when I used puppet in the field, I ended up writing most of what I needed. I don't know how much that has moved in the year I have been a developer here, though, but it looks like a bit of movement to the future. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 12:59:06] <spicyWith> dpittman: ah, so you work for the co. | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:59:23] <dpittman> spicyWith: Yeah, I am one of the core developers. :) | ||
| [2012/01/25 12:59:44] * dpittman liked the product so much, I joined the company. ;) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:00:31] <spicyWith> dpittman: nice :) | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:00:47] <dpittman> spicyWith: yeah, but it doesn't leave me expert in where to find modules. :) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:02:24] <spicyWith> dpittman: maybe you can prod someone to finish off the Learning Puppet part two: master/agent (http://docs.puppetlabs.com/) After reading this post on puppet vs chef I was expecting a lot more complete documentation: http://bitfieldconsulting.com/puppet-vs-chef | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:02:54] <nfagerlund> spicyWith: That's what I'm working on today. *goes back to it* | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:03:15] <dpittman> spicyWith: nfagerlund is our documentation person. We will crack the whip harder. ;) | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:03:31] <spicyWith> nfagerlund: yes! | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:04:02] <dpittman> spicyWith: I can recommend the recent "Pro Puppet" book as being a great resource for getting started. James and Jeff are pretty awesome, and have lots of field experiecne with the product. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:05:05] <eventi> and they hang out here | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:05:08] <anveo> spicyWith: I would agree the puppet documentation for someone getting isn't puppet isn't very good. The "Pro Puppet" book is a must have | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:05:22] <anveo> getting into* | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:05:52] <dpittman> anveo, spicyWith: we encourage people to file bugs against our documentation project, which we take seriously, to help us work out what would help you get started better. If you can name what was missing, we can at least know that we should build it. | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:07:32] <spicyWith> anveo: interesting, thanks. that post from bitfield consulting set me up with the wrong expectations. It makes it seem like puppet is crushing chef in terms of documentation so that's why I was confused. | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:07:45] <spicyWith> dpittman: I will :) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:10:28] <dpittman> spicyWith: We get a lot of feedback from users that we are doing really well, in that regard, which is why I am enthused by you putting in "bug" reports about what you miss. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:10:52] <dpittman> spicyWith: ...because awesome for some people is not the same as awesome for everyone, and we totally want to support everyone with those docs. | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:11:05] <dpittman> spicyWith: So, obviously we are failing to deliver the documentation you need... | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:11:51] <spicyWith> dpittman: for sure, I don't doubt the docs are good. I was just surprised to find a big chunk of docs "coming soon". Hopefully nfagerlund will get them out the door soon :) | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:12:32] <dpittman> spicyWith: I doubt they will ever be entirely finished. The "learning Puppet" series is a fairly recent addition to the set, which is why it is partly done. :) | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:12:37] <dpittman> spicyWith: ...but I can see that. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:18:14] <anveo> dpittman: I don't think the puppet documentation is bad by any means. The book teaches in a somewhat linear fasion, where some chapters build on the previous ones with very useful real world examples. When I first started using puppet, the puppetlab doc page seemed more like a collection of links describing various aspects | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:18:53] <anveo> As a beginner I didn't know what I needed to learn or understand the puppet vocabulary to know where I needed to go or search | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:18:57] <dpittman> anveo: I don't think it is bad, but I can totally accept it might not contain everything that everyone wants today. :) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:25:55] <JC> Hello, on some of my nodes I am seeing my Puppet Agent using 100% CPU and I cannot tell why. I think it is waiting to get its update from the puppetmaster but I do not know why it is taking so much CPU. Anyone have had this before? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:29:26] <fixxxermet> Hey everyone, i'm having a variable scoping issue and I'm looking for some help. http://pastebin.com/asLAPr2E is my problem-module. nodes.pp has $ntp::params::class = 'server' for the node in question. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:29:34] <fixxxermet> The error that I am getting is: err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: Error 400 on SERVER: Could not parse for environment production: Cannot assign to variables in other namespaces at /etc/puppet/manifests/nodes.pp:7 | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:29:55] <fixxxermet> Basically I'm trying to overwrite a variable from params.pp in nodes.pp | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:32:48] <Volcane> you just cant do that | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:33:24] <fixxxermet> So I should have ntp::config::server and ntp::config::client? | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:34:27] <fixxxermet> herm, huh | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:34:31] <fixxxermet> that wouldn't work either | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:34:57] <fixxxermet> The problem is, how do I apply a default config to all hosts except those with a certain varaible set? | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:35:00] <fixxxermet> or is tehr a better way to do it? | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:35:05] <Volcane> look at hiera | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:35:08] <Volcane> or extlookup | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:36:38] <fixxxermet> So I can't override variables? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:39:28] <Volcane> nope | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:40:17] <fixxxermet> argh | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:40:20] <fixxxermet> that's crazy | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:40:47] <Volcane> its just different | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:41:04] <HCoyote> we use extlookup for that. works fairly well. <shrug> | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:42:15] <nate_h> fixxxermet, you can do that with hiera | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:42:55] <fixxxermet> hiera is new and scary. I thought I knew puppet, and now my world is changing. | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:43:00] <fixxxermet> (to me) | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:43:15] <nate_h> ya, it took a complete re-write to incorporate it | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:43:24] <fixxxermet> serious or sarcasm? | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:43:25] <nate_h> but now all my data is stored in hashes in layers outside of the modules | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:43:29] <nate_h> no seriously | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:43:33] <fixxxermet> shat | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:43:47] <nate_h> but thats probably because the modules sucked to begin with and had data scattered into them | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:43:54] <nate_h> its mostly re-writing the interface to the modules | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:47:00] <the_ramink> nate_h: how did you break things up in your module? I've been playing with ::params for internal module stuff and ::data for extlookup, hiera, etc. | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:47:02] <fixxxermet> we need to hire a half dozen sys admins before that could happen | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:47:24] <fixxxermet> Could hiera be added to my existing puppet but only used within one module (for now)? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:47:41] <Volcane> yup | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:47:53] <fixxxermet> alright, off to google I go | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:48:06] <nate_h> fixxxermet, check out the blog posts Volcane wrote up on it as a start | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:48:49] <fixxxermet> got a link? I'm coming up short | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:49:08] <Volcane> google for 'puppet hiera' | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:49:20] <eventi> http://www.devco.net/archives/2011/06/05/hiera_a_pluggable_hierarchical_data_store.php | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:49:26] * eventi is reading along | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:49:31] <fixxxermet> Ah, that one | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:50:44] <nate_h> the_ramink, well.. I hadn't quite done the module specific data | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:51:11] <nate_h> i mean internal module stuff | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:51:21] <nate_h> but right now I grab one hash that has all the data for the module in the init.pp | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:52:00] <nate_h> then in the init.pp i store that in the data.pp, then include whatever subclasses, install.pp, config.pp, services.pp, etc | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:52:20] <Volcane> nate_h: hmm, why not lookup the individual data items? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:52:37] <nate_h> Volcane, because I didn't want a million hiera lookups | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:52:42] <Volcane> fair enough | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:52:50] <the_ramink> nate_h: gotcha, I'll have to think about my approach a bit. I feel like I just shifting the problem around rather than solving it. | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:52:52] <nate_h> plus i modified hiera so it does hash merging | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:53:04] <Volcane> nate_h: like the hiera_hash function does? | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:53:28] <nate_h> Volcane, ya, but I added a new ruby function so it does merging down the key level | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:53:34] <nate_h> vs just the first level of keys | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:53:36] <Volcane> ah | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:53:58] <Volcane> probably going to suck for you long run - since once integrated into puppet i doubt there will be a standalone hiera as such for you to patch | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:54:30] <nate_h> Volcane, can't I still do custom backends once its added to puppet? | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:54:36] <Volcane> yes | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:54:44] <nate_h> ok, so it should be fine, its just a different backend | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:54:48] <Volcane> ah right | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:54:49] <Volcane> nice one | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:54:53] <fixxxermet> If a node inherts base which includes class ntp, can that node's definition somehow un-include ntp? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:55:46] <nate_h> fixxxermet, i wouldn't inherit | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:55:52] <nate_h> i'd include on a conditional | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:56:07] <nate_h> so then you can have a flag that can bet set to include or not include the class | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:56:21] <JC> Is there a way to tell why puppet client is taking 100% cpu for hours on a client? | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:56:31] <nate_h> ps -aux ? | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:56:41] <nate_h> if its running some exec | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:56:56] <fixxxermet> nate_h: I'm not sure I understand your example. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:57:55] <nate_h> JC you could also run the server and client in debug and see what step it hangs on | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:57:55] <fixxxermet> So include a conditional in base on whether to include ntp-client or ntp-server? | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:58:06] <nate_h> fixxxermet, ya | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:58:13] <JC> I just see the client sit there. the only thing I can think of is one of my classes has a recurse to make sure that the directory and files are owned by a user. But I have several clients that puppet is running 100% cpu. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 13:59:12] <cwebber> anyone using the puppet-vcsrepo module | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:59:28] <cwebber> getting some errors when i set ensure => latest | ||
| [2012/01/25 13:59:55] <17SAAGMIT> I'm using it but not to set ensure latest | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:00:00] <17SAAGMIT> probably will soon | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:01:35] <manager-of-it_> Hi… i'm trying to install puppet on some old systems running fedora 5, 7 & 8. install is failing on libselinux-utils. libselinux-utils is not readily available for these older distros (http://rpm.pbone.net/ returns nothing). any suggestions? can I use something out of a newer version of fedora or centOS 5? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:02:51] <joe-mac1> rebuild the package without requiring this? could be risky though | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:02:57] <joe-mac1> those are some really old boxes | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:03:13] <joe-mac1> can you even get ruby 1.8.6 on fedora 5? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:05:07] <cwebber> joe-mac1: I am going to have to go dig through the code and understand the execution path of the provider | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:05:42] <manager-of-it_> joe-mac1: yes… 1.8.6 is installed | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:06:03] <manager-of-it_> (yes these are old boxes… :\ ) | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:06:49] <joe-mac1> cwebber: what is the error oyu get | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:06:49] <manager-of-it_> actually 1.8.6 is installed on my fedora 8 box. not actually sure about the even older ones | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:07:23] <Volcane> manager-of-it_: you'd need to force it, or rebuild it | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:07:30] <manager-of-it_> yum can't find the package… and I can't find a distro/repository with libselinux-utils on anything before fedora 10 | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:07:57] <Volcane> you can just rebuild with flags: --without selinux | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:08:06] <Volcane> and it wont add the dependency to the resulting rpm | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:08:41] <manager-of-it_> volcane: tx. (maybe I'll just hurry up and shoot these boxes and get them out of my misery!) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:13:19] <cwebber> joe-mac1: https://gist.github.com/1677976 | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:15:43] <JC> Can you increase the delivery time that the puppetmaster responds to its clients? I am seeing a lot of my clients waiting for the puppetmasters response and looking at the logs from the puppetmaster it appears the response is slow. I am only running 30 clients on this master | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:18:42] <joe-mac1> JC: if you're using webrick, you probably want to not do that | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:19:23] <JC> no I am not using webrick. RPM install of ruby and puppet | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:19:36] <Volcane> using webrick then | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:19:42] <JC> ohh | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:19:55] <JC> not sure exactly what webrick is | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:20:04] <Volcane> JC: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/passenger.html | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:20:05] <takamichi> My understanding is that we are being nudged towards using paramaterized classes to prevent having to use global variables. Also, parameters passed into the class will be available in the template. If I previously had a global variable '$IP_Radius' which was required for dozens of templates for file resources in dozens of classes, I must now pass this value to every class as a parameter, which | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:20:05] <takamichi> seems like a lot of work - Or would I nest all these classes within another class and pass through the parameters so that I only have to declare the variable once in the containing class? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:21:07] <JC> Thats I do have passenger and rails on my server for another ruby application I use | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:21:13] <JC> thanks * | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:22:33] <fixxxermet> nate_h: Maybe I'm missing what you recommend, but I'm doing this (http://pastebin.com/17G7HTXc) and it isn't working | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:24:03] <JC> volcane - do I renstall the puppetmaster using the rack way to get rid of webrick? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:26:07] <danblack> JC you shouldn't need to reinstall. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:28:00] <rtyler> somebody should fix the "Puppet and Cucumber" link in today's blog post | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:28:02] <rtyler> it's borkulated | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:29:10] <JC> Ok I am not that familiar with passenger and rails. I have passenger 2.2.11 and rack 1.2.1 and 1.1.0 on that server | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:29:32] <JC> running puppet-server-2.7.5-1.el5.rf | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:32:31] <JC> where do I copy the puppetmasterd.conf file and config.ru for setting up the puppetmaster using apache and passenger | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:32:55] <danblack> JC a apache configu. Also need to enable the passenger module in apache http://pastebin.com/5RxCcLf8 | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:34:45] <danblack> don't need a puppetmasterd.conf. make sure puppetd isn't running otherwise apache won't be able to bin to the port. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:37:12] <JC> thanks danblack. I checked in my /usr/share/puppet/ I have no rack or puppetmaster directory in there | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:37:33] <JC> I only have a ext and modules directory | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:38:30] <danblack> JC this is off a debian/ubuntu box. adjust paths as necessary. perhaps the official documentation or puppet wiki will be better | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:39:03] <JC> Ok that helps. | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:40:38] <JC> In the official documentation it says to make that directory and copy a config.ru file into it. Where do I get the config.ru file? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:43:28] <JC> thanks danblack I think I will try from documentation here | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:45:33] <nate_h> fixxxermet, what error are you getting? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:49:47] <fixxxermet> nate_h: that it couldn't find ntp::config::client, and actually $ntp isn't defined until line 13 so that conditional always would fail. | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:50:40] <fixxxermet> nate_h: my workaround: http://pastebin.com/Xyhn4ktg ugly, but it works | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:50:55] <fixxxermet> And I could just change that $hostname conditional to check an array I suppose | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:51:12] <nate_h> oh jesus that's bad bad bad | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:51:17] <fixxxermet> I know, I know | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:51:23] <fixxxermet> I can't make it work any other way | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:51:29] <nate_h> let me look for a sec | ||
| [2012/01/25 14:51:36] <fixxxermet> ok | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:53:45] <JC> is there a manifest.pp and congig.ru for Redhat Apache install of Puppet 2.7 +? github only has debian | ||
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| [2012/01/25 14:58:59] <bman1> hey if I have a class called puppetclient and I want a dynamic var for my conf how would I call it? I tried setting it like $puppetclient::puppetmaster_host in the nodes section just like u would for extlookup but it says Cannot assign to variables in other namespaces | ||
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| [2012/01/25 15:04:01] <nate_h> fixxxermet, so i don't see why it wouldn't be able to find that client class | ||
| [2012/01/25 15:05:35] <fixxxermet> nate_h: You mean in http://pastebin.com/17G7HTXc ? | ||
| [2012/01/25 15:06:30] <nate_h> ua | ||
| [2012/01/25 15:06:31] <nate_h> ya | ||
| [2012/01/25 15:07:32] <nate_h> and if the ntp variable isn't visible yet, you could do an include instead of an inherits | ||
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| [2012/01/25 15:07:39] <nate_h> create a class that is the base | ||
| [2012/01/25 15:07:49] <nate_h> and just include that in every node | ||
| [2012/01/25 15:08:23] <fixxxermet> Would you mind showing me what you mean by editing that paste? | ||
| [2012/01/25 15:08:26] <fixxxermet> I'm feeling dumb today | ||
| [2012/01/25 15:08:33] <nate_h> yep, editing now | ||
| [2012/01/25 15:08:37] <fixxxermet> you the man! | ||
| [2012/01/25 15:08:56] <teratoma> how can i ensure a directory is empty ? | ||
| [2012/01/25 15:09:02] <bman1> hey if I have a class called puppetclient and I want a dynamic var for my conf how would I call it? I tried setting it like $puppetclient::puppetmaster_host in the nodes section just like u would for extlookup but it says Cannot assign to variables in other namespaces | ||
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| [2012/01/25 15:09:50] <nate_h> bman1, pass the variable into your puppet module | ||
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| [2012/01/25 15:10:40] <nate_h> bman1, that way the module has a local variable but you are looking it up via extlookup and passing it via a parameter so you don't have to try and set the variable inside the module | ||
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| [2012/01/25 15:12:32] <mlout> Hello, I have a custom repository which I use to serve debian packages from, I have a class customrepo that sets up the sources.list, puts the key and does a apt-get update | ||
| [2012/01/25 15:12:34] <laudo> I have puppet-2.6.4-1 installed an try to parse files for syntax errors. Doesn't work at all. is parseonly implemented in my version? | ||
| [2012/01/25 15:13:01] <mlout> now if i want to ensure the custom repository is configured before installing a package, can i just use require => Class['customrepo'] in the package type? | ||
| [2012/01/25 15:13:34] <mlout> the class customrepo is included inside the same class | ||
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| [2012/01/25 15:14:05] <nate_h> mlout, ya should be able to | ||
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| [2012/01/25 15:14:39] <nate_h> fixxxermet, http://pastebin.com/eANRjr9d | ||
| [2012/01/25 15:14:41] <mlout> nate_h: alright, thanks | ||
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| [2012/01/25 15:19:24] <kerframil> mlout: another approach: Class['customrepo'] -> Package <| |> | ||
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| [2012/01/25 15:23:49] <mlout> kerframil: ah yes, that would be a more general approach, ty | ||
| [2012/01/25 15:24:22] <kerframil> mlout: one declaration too | ||
| [2012/01/25 15:26:32] <HCoyote> Is there a way to test tht a template exists before attempting to use it? | ||
| [2012/01/25 15:27:09] <fixxxermet> nate_h: Would I need to $ntp = 'client' on all of my other boxes (my prod has 200 some servers) | ||
| [2012/01/25 15:27:19] <fixxxermet> or could that be the default in default? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 15:30:53] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Road_map (#13) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Road_map?version=13 (by Daniel Pittman) | ||
| [2012/01/25 15:30:53] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Road_map (#14) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Road_map?version=14 (by Daniel Pittman) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 15:45:05] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Downloading_Puppet (#139) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Downloading_Puppet?version=139 (by Matthaus Litteken) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 15:58:58] <i0n> is exec still the best way to have puppet run apt-get update? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 16:00:24] <fixxxermet> Think so i0n, th at's what I still do | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:00:33] <i0n> ugh | ||
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| [2012/01/25 16:00:47] <fixxxermet> I make it refreshonly => true and subscribe => whatever | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:00:52] <fixxxermet> slightly better | ||
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| [2012/01/25 16:01:02] <i0n> going to make a init script and have my code notify the service | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:01:08] <siert> I just noticed that facter gets a permission denied on /dev/mem when running as a normal user | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:01:29] <siert> $ facter >/dev/null | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:01:31] <siert> /dev/mem: Permission denied | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:03:00] <i0n> what os | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:03:03] <i0n> siert: | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:03:11] <siert> ubuntu 10.10 (maverick) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 16:03:24] <i0n> memfree = Facter::Util::Resolution.exec("vmstat | tail -n 1 | awk '{ print $5 }'") | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:03:39] <i0n> try giving your normal user vmstat permissions | ||
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| [2012/01/25 16:04:08] <siert> $ vmstat | tail -n 1 | awk '{ print $5 }' | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:04:08] <siert> 54560 | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:04:12] <siert> that works... | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:04:25] <i0n> look through the facter libs | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:04:31] <i0n> and find what you dont have permission for | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:04:31] <siert> I have facter 1.6.5-1puppetlabs1 | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:04:46] <i0n> memory.rb | ||
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| [2012/01/25 16:06:15] <i0n> its prob this one | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:06:21] <i0n> memtotal = Facter::Util::Resolution.exec("sysctl hw.physmem | cut -d'=' -f2") | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:06:29] <i0n> i think sysctl requires root | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:06:51] <i0n> i dunno i run everything as root cause. | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:07:08] <i0n> i dont feel like dealing with that stuff | ||
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| [2012/01/25 16:09:12] <siert> On Linux it uses 'facter/util/memory.rb' | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:09:44] <i0n> i dont think you are understanding what im saying. | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:10:20] <i0n> try running sysctl as your normal user | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:10:25] <i0n> do u have permissions? | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:10:32] <siert> yes | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:10:37] <i0n> k then i dunno | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:11:04] <siert> i0n: i think /dev/mem is not being read from the two memory.rb's I have on my system | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:11:38] <siert> i0n: but you gave me the right directions; I'll see what changed since the latest update | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:12:08] <devicenull> why does puppet reload the md5 module every time it needs to compute a hash? | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:12:17] <devicenull> I was looking at strace output trying to figure out why it's so slow | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:12:20] <devicenull> and noticed that | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:13:14] <i0n> siert: issue a ticket to and i can look at it sometime next week if you dont fix it. give good notes if you do. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 16:26:05] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Road_map (#15) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Road_map?version=15 (by Nigel Kersten) | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:26:05] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Road_map (#16) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Road_map?version=16 (by Nigel Kersten) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 16:35:46] <tangledhelix> <rant>i seem to be butting up against some kind of upper bound on hosts my puppetmaster can support because ruby 1.8.7 is so slow.</rant> | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:36:18] <tangledhelix> where the upper bound is not exorbitant. i'm talking about 100 systems. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 16:37:15] <tangledhelix> taking an average 150 seconds to compile each host's manifest. and i'm only doing unix users and groups so far, nothing else... | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:38:31] <the_ramink> tangledhelix: are you still running your Puppet master as the standalone webrick server? | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:38:48] <tangledhelix> i haven't done anything special so i assume so if that's the default | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:39:37] <the_ramink> tangledhelix: that's likely your problem. You'll want to move to an Apache/Passenger based Puppet master. | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:40:30] <tangledhelix> i asked here some time ago about this and everyone insisted you didn't need to deal with that stuff until at least like 500+ systems ... ok i'll read up on that, thanks | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:40:49] <the_ramink> tangledhelix: http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/passenger.html | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:40:53] <colon_D> 500+? O_o i always heard something like 20+ | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:41:06] <colon_D> suppose it depends what you be doin. | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:41:25] <tangledhelix> colon_D: probably depends on the system you're using, i guess. this is a quad-core 2.2GHz machine, seems like it should be able to handle a bit more than this | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:41:31] <tangledhelix> must have zilch for caching or something | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:41:51] <the_ramink> tangledhelix: I'd say more than 20, but it really depends on concurrency or not having concurrency if you're on webrick | ||
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| [2012/01/25 16:42:21] <the_ramink> tangledhelix: the quad core doesn't help since webrick is a single process. | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:42:39] <tangledhelix> the_ramink: good point | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:42:43] <colon_D> on a related note; has anyone successfully used restart.txt with passenger? could never get that bugger to work | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:42:54] <tangledhelix> the_ramink: OTOH i have 3 cores to share all the other procs with :) | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:43:13] <HCoyote> colon_D: restart.txt? | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:43:34] <aknapp> colon_D: yeah, restart.txt works for me | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:43:36] <colon_D> i read you're supposed to be able to restart your app (puppet) in passenger by touching a restart.txt file in the app's root | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:43:46] <aknapp> nah, not in the root | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:43:51] <aknapp> in <root>/tmp/restart.txt | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:44:03] <colon_D> yeah, there ya go | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:44:05] * HCoyote just graceful's the apache. | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:44:21] <aknapp> oh man, 'touch <root>/tmp/restart.txt' is the way to go | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:44:27] <HCoyote> why's that? | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:44:43] <aknapp> passenger just recycles it's processes then, no reason to get apache involved | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:44:47] <colon_D> i have a machine that has puppet seems to crash on, but restart.txt has no effect, i have to restart apache | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:44:54] <colon_D> maybe the whole of passenger is getting pwned | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:44:54] <the_ramink> tangledhelix: sure, but I'd rather run six Rack processes acting as Puppet master processes and not worry about it. :) | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:45:44] <tangledhelix> the_ramink: yeah. i'll have to see what redhat provides in that vein. i don't even want to deal with it on the current solaris-based puppetmaster host. | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:47:18] <tangledhelix> anyone know if the ruby 1.9 certificate stuff goes away if you move from webrick to passenger? i could stand to ditch ruby 1.8.7 too... | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:47:25] <the_ramink> tangledhelix: I don't really recommend this, but I run my Puppet master out of rvm so it's isolated from the OS, the puppet agent, etc. Might be a reasonable option, but moving to RHEL is probably simpler and requires less Ruby stack skills. | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:47:55] <tangledhelix> the_ramink: well i'm moving all of my systems to RHEL anyway. i'm just not that far along so i have many more solaris boxes around | ||
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| [2012/01/25 16:48:05] <the_ramink> tangledhelix: last I tried it, around 2.7.4, it was still broken, but that may have changed. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 16:48:38] <tangledhelix> the_ramink: ok thanks. someone from puppet labs told me 2.7.x supported ruby 1.9.2, but it hasn't worked so far... might try again just to see. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 16:50:02] <dwalu> Is it possible to have 2 certificates on a server? I'd like to have a generic certificate called puppet.dwalu.int on my master, but I want it to also have it's normal hostname as a certificate for when it checks in | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:50:05] <the_ramink> tangledhelix: supported is correct, works as well as 1.8.7... perhaps not. :) | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:50:30] <tangledhelix> the_ramink: aye. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 16:51:47] <nate_h> fixxxermet, you can just use an if/else then and make the client the else case as you had before | ||
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| [2012/01/25 16:57:53] <dwalu> I guess what I'm asking is can you have a puppetmaster's client cert be completely different from iit's master cert? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 16:58:15] <the_ramink> dwalu: yes you can do that. Assuming you've got a Passenger based Puppet master, you can generate your server cert (with dns_alt_names in case you need to move it) and have that configured in the vhost. Then the agent can run as the local hostname. | ||
| [2012/01/25 16:58:16] <eric0> dwalu: absolutely | ||
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| [2012/01/25 17:00:26] <dwalu> duh, ok that makes a lot of sense, thanks! | ||
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| [2012/01/25 17:26:24] <bman1> is extlookup disabled in version 2.6.7? | ||
| [2012/01/25 17:26:44] <bman1> im sorry 2.7.9 | ||
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| [2012/01/25 17:28:38] <takamichi> I'm trying to refactor our manifests to use paramaterized classes and minimize the use of global vars. However, the result is looking terribly non-DRY. Could anyone take a quick look at the manifest for our VPN servers and give me any hints at how I should be doing it, it would be hugely appreciated - http://pastebin.com/6HkNq1CL | ||
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| [2012/01/25 17:29:45] <bman1> nm looks like its documented | ||
| [2012/01/25 17:29:48] <bman1> http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users/browse_thread/thread/be06320cb50bbf8e | ||
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| [2012/01/25 17:33:57] <bman1> kind of ghetto to have to use the extlookup.rb from 2.6 on 2.7 but oh well | ||
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| [2012/01/25 17:34:07] <nate_h> bman1, change to hiera | ||
| [2012/01/25 17:34:12] <nate_h> simple enough | ||
| [2012/01/25 17:34:44] <bman1> sorry hiera? | ||
| [2012/01/25 17:34:51] <nate_h> its a more modern version | ||
| [2012/01/25 17:35:04] <bman1> ok thanks | ||
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| [2012/01/25 17:35:54] <cyounkins> What is the proper way to upgrade the puppet client (stand alone environment), before executing the rest of a script? | ||
| [2012/01/25 17:36:17] <torrancew> cyounkins: masterless? I think you'll wind up having 2 puppet runs... | ||
| [2012/01/25 17:36:18] <cyounkins> Is there a way to restart the current script, or could I daisy chain them? | ||
| [2012/01/25 17:37:21] <cyounkins> torrancew: Is there a way to invoke the second run from the first? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 17:38:26] <torrancew> cyounkins: I can't think of a way to tell puppet to run itself if it's also told to kill itself... | ||
| [2012/01/25 17:38:38] <torrancew> Not saying there isn't one | ||
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| [2012/01/25 17:39:08] <torrancew> but you may do something like "puppet apply upgrade_puppet.pp; puppet apply normal_manifest.pp" | ||
| [2012/01/25 17:39:12] <the_ramink> cyounkins: I do the first run againist a --environment bootstrap and notify Service['puppet-agent'] at the end which makes it restart without the custom environment. though local puppet apply would work too. | ||
| [2012/01/25 17:39:41] <nate_h> takamichi, i would store that data in an external lookup | ||
| [2012/01/25 17:39:58] <cyounkins> Thanks torrancew and the_ramink | ||
| [2012/01/25 17:40:21] <nate_h> takamichi, then you can just look it up and you don't duplicate data | ||
| [2012/01/25 17:40:36] <takamichi> nate_h: Thanks, I'm not familiar with external lookups but I'll investigate immediately. | ||
| [2012/01/25 17:40:44] <nate_h> takamichi, ya google puppet hiera | ||
| [2012/01/25 17:41:08] <takamichi> nate_h: awesome, thank you. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 17:48:02] <jsm> interesting puppet error.. i'm trying to integrate puppet and boxgrinder.. the puppet run errs out of this: err: Could not run Puppet configuration client: Could not retrieve local facts: No such file or directory - (unreachable)/root | ||
| [2012/01/25 17:49:01] <jamescarr> is there a good tutorial on writing my own module? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 17:58:29] <alop> Anyone know if file resource can move a file? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 17:59:15] <alop> e.g. I want to distribute a standard sudoers file, but I don't want to lose prior configs. So I want to move the legacy /etc/sudoers to /etc/sudoers.local and my standard config includes it | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:01:26] <nate_h> alop, you could also use some of the augueus editors for sudoers | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:01:32] <nate_h> then you can edit existing stuff | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:01:36] <alop> hmm | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:01:44] <Dominic> alop: no, the puppet way of doing it is the "filebucket" feature. It stores backups of your files either on the local machine or puppet master by the MD5 sum (which is in the logs). | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:01:57] <alop> I could add my new sudoers as /etc/sudoers.remote, then use aug to add the include | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:01:59] <Dominic> alop: e.g. http://serverfault.com/questions/240096/filebucket-configuration-in-puppet | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:01:59] <nate_h> Dominic, i could imagine a few ways around that | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:02:44] <alop> I like both suggestions! Thanks | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:02:51] <nate_h> alop you could basically create an unless statement for an exec that tested if the current sudoers was original | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:02:56] <nate_h> like check for a rule, or string | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:03:02] <nate_h> then if it was the original move it to sudoers.remote | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:03:14] <nate_h> and create a new sudoers and include | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:03:24] <nate_h> then subsequent puppet runs would be editing the new file with the include | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:03:37] <lwhalen> many many moons ago, I could've sworn there was a tool that would follow what commands you ran, and generate a Puppet manifest based off of those commands | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:03:57] <lwhalen> so if you ran 'adduser <blargh>', the tool would be smart enough to know to generate a User statement, etc | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:04:04] <lwhalen> does anyone recall such a tool? | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:04:12] <nate_h> lwhalen, i know of a tool to look at resources | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:04:19] <nate_h> like cron/users/packages and create puppet code for that | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:04:27] <Dominic> I wonder if there's an automatic way you could maintain a file { "/etc/sudoers.bak": } as a symlink, with the target pointing to the old MD5 sum in the local filebucket | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:04:29] <lwhalen> what is it? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:04:44] <jsm> can anyone make sense of this error: http://fpaste.org/LO27/ ? | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:04:58] <lwhalen> (the tool, that is) | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:05:37] <Dominic> lwhalen: `puppet resource user` aka `ralsh` | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:05:45] <nate_h> lwhalen, what dominic said | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:06:05] <lwhalen> thanks! | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:07:19] <nate_h> alop https://github.com/windowsrefund/puppet-sudoers | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:07:47] <nate_h> https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet-sudo | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:08:06] <windowsrefund> I switched to a sudoers.d style of managing sudoers | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:08:16] <windowsrefund> I should delete the stuff up on github | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:09:47] <nate_h> windowsrefund, ah, thats probably a better solution for his issue | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:10:10] <windowsrefund> good deal | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:10:13] * windowsrefund heads out | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:10:44] <nate_h> so i am trying to have a service with both a ensure = stopped and enable = false | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:10:45] <JC> I am trying to install the passenger/apache version of the puppetmaster. I am running passenger 2.2.11 rack 1.2.1 puppet-server 2.7.1 on redhat. I set it up based on the puppet documentation | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:10:50] <nate_h> and then i get an error | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:11:06] <nate_h> http://www.pastie.org/3252993 | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:11:09] <nate_h> any idea why i can't do that? | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:11:23] <JC> when I restarted apache I do not see the application listening on the 8140 port I setup | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:11:25] <nate_h> if I just tell puppet to enable = false without a ensure = stopped i don't get the error | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:11:25] <Dominic> jsm: that's just bizarre, I can't work it out. Maybe something odd in your puppet.conf, like a factpath or modulepath that's bad? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:11:47] <JC> How do I see what is causing the application to crash? | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:12:06] <Dominic> nate_h: can you run with --trace? | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:12:18] <jsm> Dominic: i think it has something to do with the environment it is running in… it's running in a boxgrinder guest | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:12:34] <jsm> Dominic: but the error it's giving isn't very helpful | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:13:23] <nate_h> Dominic, http://www.pastie.org/3253005 | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:13:47] <Dominic> jsm: yeah, you probably need to work out where the invalid path (if my assumption's right, it's trying a chdir to it) is coming from, somewhere in the env | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:15:29] <nate_h> any ideas? | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:17:21] <Dominic> nate_h: no, sorry, looks a bit involved. It's worth filing a bug over though. | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:17:57] <Dominic> which distro and init system are you using? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:18:03] <nate_h> sles | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:18:06] <nate_h> redhat provider | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:18:16] <nate_h> 2.7.9 | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:19:05] <Dominic> that's normal sysv init is it? | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:19:10] <nate_h> ya | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:19:40] <Dominic> hm sorry, not sure what's going on | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:20:07] <nate_h> np | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:20:58] <jbaldridge> hmm... Any thoughts on what negative effects might result from updating apt.rb to drop a config in apt/preferences.d pinning package versions when a package resource specifies a version in ensure? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:21:50] <centos62> trying to teach myself manifests and proper jargon here, was wondering if someone could give me a hand with a small example of something | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:22:05] <nate_h> centos62, go on? | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:22:07] <centos62> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/latest/type.html#package | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:22:45] <centos62> nate_h: for that, how I would I say, specify any of the features available by provider? | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:23:14] @ Quit: nutron: Quit: I must go eat my cheese! | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:23:17] <centos62> I mean | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:23:36] <centos62> let's say I want yum to install gnome or something | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:23:43] <nate_h> ya | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:24:07] <nate_h> you can either set the provider globally, per the namespace, or per package | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:24:12] <centos62> ok bad example because it shows it there, ensure => installed | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:24:12] <centos62> but I mean | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:24:15] <centos62> let's say I want it to use yum and....do something else | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:24:23] <centos62> not install but remove or purge or upgrade a package | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:24:41] <centos62> with gnome as the package name how would I do that | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:24:42] <nate_h> centos62, well what other operations would you do | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:24:56] <centos62> in this one example let's consider that the only operation | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:25:13] <centos62> all I want to do is instead of install gnome, it's already installed and I want to upgrade that package | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:25:35] <centos62> instead of ensure => installed.....it would be? | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:25:42] <nate_h> centos62, package { gnome: ensure => <someversion>, provider => yum } | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:26:18] <nate_h> just specify the version instead of "installed" | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:26:21] <nate_h> or you can say "latest" | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:26:25] <nate_h> but i like to pin specific versions | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:28:26] <centos62> now let's say I want to delete it, package { gnome: ensure => absent, provider => yum } | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:28:41] <nate_h> uh hu, that looks correct | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:29:02] <nate_h> I globally set my package provider to whatever i'm using though | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:29:04] <nate_h> then I don't have to speciy | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:29:05] <nate_h> specify | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:29:12] <centos62> how would one do that? | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:29:17] <nate_h> also it should detect which one to use | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:29:20] <nate_h> base on your os | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:29:22] <nate_h> based | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:29:38] <centos62> so with centos it'll default to yum? | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:29:44] <nate_h> not sure | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:29:52] <nate_h> but you just use the global resource syntax | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:29:59] <nate_h> Package { provider => foo } | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:30:03] <nate_h> and put that in global scope | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:30:11] <nate_h> so right in your site.pp | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:30:16] @ Quit: jamescarr: Ping timeout: 252 seconds | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:30:21] <nate_h> or in my case I include a base pp from there | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:30:28] <jbaldridge> centos62: the default provider on centos is yum | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:30:35] <jbaldridge> from package/yum.rb: | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:30:35] <jbaldridge> defaultfor :operatingsystem => [:fedora, :centos, :redhat] | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:30:51] <nate_h> import "/srv/puppet/modules/defaults/manifests/init.pp" | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:30:52] <centos62> jbaldridge: thanks, good to know | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:30:56] <nate_h> thats from my site.pp | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:31:05] <nate_h> so i set global defaults in that file | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:31:07] <centos62> thanks nate_h | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:31:27] <centos62> jbaldridge: what about dependency checking? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:31:40] <nate_h> jbaldridge, the package provider should handle that | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:31:41] <jbaldridge> what about it? | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:31:47] <jbaldridge> yum does the dep checking | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:31:48] <nate_h> err sorry i meant that for centos62 | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:31:51] <jbaldridge> nod | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:32:03] <centos62> ok | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:32:13] <centos62> what if an error is encountered in processing it? | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:32:22] <centos62> say gpg keys are bad or something | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:32:41] <nate_h> centos62, you can turn off gpg checking | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:32:57] <nate_h> centos62, but you usually would want to make sure your shit works :P | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:32:58] <jbaldridge> thats a bad idea | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:33:13] <centos62> but will you receive notice of the failure and be told it was due to gpg keys? | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:33:17] <nate_h> i mean its ok for us to use no gpg checking since we run all our own repos and there is no outside stuff | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:33:26] <nate_h> centos62, ya usually it gives an ok error | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:33:36] <nate_h> or you can manually run the command it shows you in debug and determine the issue | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:34:03] <jbaldridge> yeah, the resource would fail to apply.. I'm not sure how that specific error would be presented, but you should be able to figre out whats going on from the output of a puppet run | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:34:50] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Road_map (#17) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Road_map?version=17 (by Nigel Kersten) | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:35:44] <tillMorning> How correct I need to say: 'get life joy'. should be: get the life joy? or get the life of joy? - or is OK get life joy? | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:36:00] <nate_h> what the? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:36:16] <nate_h> tillMorning, is this an english grammar question? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:41:19] <ozy_work> i have regex used to define nodes -- is there any easy way to see why a particular node is *not* matching a given regext? It appears to not match any, and is getting only the default config... | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:41:45] <nate_h> ozy_work, i'd say put your regex in like online regex thing and test | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:42:14] <the_ramink> ozy_work: I like this one for puppet testing, http://rubular.com/ | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:42:35] <nate_h> also make sure the fact for fqdn is actually what you think it is | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:42:55] <ozy_work> i can see it connecting on the server... | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:43:41] <ozy_work> looks right useing facter | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:43:52] <nate_h> yep then check with that site the_ramink posted | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:44:27] <ozy_work> i think I got it, thanks | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:44:40] <ozy_work> opened up a new mystery, but still | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:45:14] <ozy_work> ooooooo | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:45:15] <ozy_work> i get it | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:45:17] <ozy_work> thanks! | ||
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| [2012/01/25 18:58:49] <bman1> what am i doing wrong here | ||
| [2012/01/25 18:58:49] <bman1> http://pastebin.com/gGz6xdPJ | ||
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| [2012/01/25 19:02:36] <bman1> any idea why this wont work http://pastebin.com/gGz6xdPJ | ||
| [2012/01/25 19:03:33] <nate_h> because you aren't include ssl_option inside of ssl_print | ||
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| [2012/01/25 19:03:58] <bman1> < smacks self in head | ||
| [2012/01/25 19:04:16] <bman1> thought they all would be inheritied but since i tried one like that most likely yeah thanks | ||
| [2012/01/25 19:04:29] <nate_h> not sure what your trying to do though with that layout | ||
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| [2012/01/25 19:05:32] <nate_h> the other problem is you are creating the ssl_server variable in the ssl_print class | ||
| [2012/01/25 19:05:42] <nate_h> therefore the test_foobar class doesn't have access to that namespace | ||
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| [2012/01/25 19:06:29] <bman1> ok thx | ||
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| [2012/01/25 19:08:25] <bman1> what I am trying to accomplish is to be able to use a common var and modify it for a erb template without allot of fuss in 2.7.9 | ||
| [2012/01/25 19:09:21] <nate_h> so global variables vs using an ext lookup? | ||
| [2012/01/25 19:09:52] <nate_h> i used to do that, i'd store all my common variables, etc in a single pp | ||
| [2012/01/25 19:10:01] <nate_h> err in a single class then include that class wherever i needed them | ||
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| [2012/01/25 19:10:40] <bman1> extlookup is not working in 2.7.9 | ||
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| [2012/01/25 19:11:29] <bman1> was looking at the other tool u mentioned but it seemed a lil overkill if it can be done like this, ill prob use it in the future however | ||
| [2012/01/25 19:11:47] <nate_h> bman1, ya i'd store them in a variables module then | ||
| [2012/01/25 19:12:12] <nate_h> class global_variables { foo = ssl1 } | ||
| [2012/01/25 19:12:30] <nate_h> then in any module you want to use the global variable you just do include global_variables | ||
| [2012/01/25 19:12:33] <nate_h> and use them | ||
| [2012/01/25 19:12:41] <bman1> ok will try that thanks | ||
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| [2012/01/25 19:23:31] <eirich> has anyone else run into problems installing puppet enterprise in centos 6? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 19:33:58] <haus> eirich: there is a known issue with mod_ssl (https://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/11807) | ||
| [2012/01/25 19:34:18] <haus> will be resolved in the upcoming patch release mentioned in the ticket | ||
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| [2012/01/25 19:35:08] <eirich> reading it now. thanks | ||
| [2012/01/25 19:35:16] <haus> np | ||
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| [2012/01/25 19:39:21] <eirich> this might answer some problems i had during installation, but i finally got it to go. | ||
| [2012/01/25 19:40:17] <eirich> however from the puppermaster node itself i get "Error 400" in the reports | ||
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| [2012/01/25 19:45:14] <gepetto> feed redmine had 5 updates, showing the latest 3 | ||
| [2012/01/25 19:45:14] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Release_Notes_Scratchpad (#7) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Release_Notes_Scratchpad?version=7 (by Chris Price) | ||
| [2012/01/25 19:45:14] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Release_Notes_Scratchpad (#8) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Release_Notes_Scratchpad?version=8 (by Chris Price) | ||
| [2012/01/25 19:45:14] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Release_Notes_Scratchpad (#9) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Release_Notes_Scratchpad?version=9 (by Chris Price) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 19:49:00] <the_ramink> stahnma: I think you need to update the repo data for the PL yum repo. I'm not picking up the new facter or puppet. | ||
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| [2012/01/25 20:00:44] <stahnma> the_ramink: hmm, I thought I did, but I'll check it out again | ||
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| [2012/01/25 20:01:16] <stahnma> the_ramink: you're right, wrong Rakefile :) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 20:01:23] <stahnma> updating now | ||
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| [2012/01/25 20:06:11] <the_ramink> yep that did the trick, thanks | ||
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| [2012/01/25 20:10:41] <gepetto> ::redmine:: Wiki edit: Release_Notes (#165) @ http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Release_Notes?version=165 (by Michael Stahnke) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 20:33:36] <tomben_> Is it normally not to be able to look up local scope variables with scope.lookupvar? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 20:43:54] <whack> tomben_: hmm, that sounds wrong | ||
| [2012/01/25 20:44:23] <tomben_> I need to rephrase a bit | ||
| [2012/01/25 20:44:33] <tomben_> I can look them up with scope.lookupvar("variable") | ||
| [2012/01/25 20:44:51] <tomben_> but not with scope.lookupvar("class::subclass::variable") | ||
| [2012/01/25 20:45:27] <tomben_> from inside of 'class2', scope.lookupvar("class::subclass::variable") works | ||
| [2012/01/25 20:45:31] <whack> right, works for me | ||
| [2012/01/25 20:45:31] <whack> % puppet apply -e '$foo = "Hello world" notice(inline_template("<%= scope.lookupvar(\"foo\") %>"))' | ||
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| [2012/01/25 20:45:34] <whack> notice: Scope(Class[main]): Hello world | ||
| [2012/01/25 20:45:37] <whack> % puppet apply -e '$foo = "Hello world" notice(inline_template("<%= scope.lookupvar(\"foo\") %>"))' | ||
| [2012/01/25 20:45:40] <whack> notice: Scope(Class[main]): Hello world | ||
| [2012/01/25 20:45:43] <whack> stupid paste. | ||
| [2012/01/25 20:45:48] <whack> oh | ||
| [2012/01/25 20:46:04] <whack> so inside 'class::subclass' you try scope.lookupvar("class::subclass::variable") ? | ||
| [2012/01/25 20:46:40] <whack> This also works fo rme | ||
| [2012/01/25 20:46:41] <whack> % puppet apply -e 'class foo::bar { $baz = "Hello world" notice(inline_template("<%= scope.lookupvar(\"foo::bar::baz\") %>")) } include foo::bar' | ||
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| [2012/01/25 20:49:17] <tomben_> whack: Hmm... that is working for me. | ||
| [2012/01/25 20:49:50] <tomben_> But it definitely isn't in my production class... Guess I have some digging to do, thanks! | ||
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| [2012/01/25 21:34:57] <jamescarr> https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-tomcat | ||
| [2012/01/25 21:34:59] <jamescarr> tomcat 5!? | ||
| [2012/01/25 21:35:01] <jamescarr> YIKES | ||
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| [2012/01/25 21:37:03] <jamescarr> looks like this one is better | ||
| [2012/01/25 21:37:04] <jamescarr> https://github.com/camptocamp/puppet-tomcat | ||
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| [2012/01/25 21:43:34] <crashdummymch> having an issue with puppet 2.7.10 and scope. $package::variable works fine but if it is an autoloaded class $package::subpackage::variable i get a null value. Is this a but or am I doing something wrong. | ||
| [2012/01/25 21:44:01] <crashdummymch> but=bug | ||
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| [2012/01/25 22:30:53] <tomben_> whack: someone pointed out my bug in my code, stupid order of operations issue I couldn't see because I was staring so long, thx for help earlier | ||
| [2012/01/25 22:32:15] <jamescarr> anyone understand why my tomcat module just doesn't work? https://github.com/jamescarr/vagrant-spike | ||
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| [2012/01/25 23:17:12] <agaffney> jamescarr: you'll have to be far more specific than that if you want help | ||
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| [2012/01/25 23:18:22] <jamescarr> agaffney, yeah, it was a problem with the tomcat module... | ||
| [2012/01/25 23:18:24] <jamescarr> sorry | ||
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| [2012/01/25 23:18:37] <jamescarr> I posted my repo and then figured it out :) | ||
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| [2012/01/25 23:42:05] <junoip682> SOPA wins :S -> http://adf.ly/50eZt | ||
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| [2012/01/25 23:51:50] <dissipate> what's the consensus on using 3rd party repos for packages? | ||
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| [2012/01/25 23:55:31] <danblack> dissipate: my opinion is use if required but generally try to avoid to prevent a messy system | ||
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| [2012/01/25 23:56:21] <dissipate> danblack, it seems the best solution is to run one's own package repository. but i don't really want to spend the time to set that up. :/ | ||
| [2012/01/25 23:56:48] <danblack> you haven't set up much of a description of your business case. | ||
| [2012/01/25 23:57:02] <danblack> in puppet you can pin packages at a version i think | ||
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| [2012/01/25 23:57:33] <danblack> change control is something that goes procedurely beyond a repository existing | ||
| [2012/01/25 23:57:44] <dissipate> danblack, i want to install the package 'xtrabackup' from percona's 3rd party repo on launchpad. |
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