Tuesday, 2010-08-10

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[2010/08/10 13:37:58] <nasrat> ReinH: meh busy day on the day job barely a moment to look at facter
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[2010/08/10 14:10:29] <ReinH> nasrat: no worries :)
[2010/08/10 14:10:46] <ReinH> nasrat: I got confirmation on #4156 from Matt so I've merged it into next
[2010/08/10 14:10:46] <gepetto> ReinH: nasrat: #4156 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/4156 "Facter - Bug #4156: Facter doesn't detect Openvz as a virtual - Puppet Labs"
[2010/08/10 14:11:03] <ReinH> (Matthew Cluver)
[2010/08/10 14:11:27] <ReinH> nasrat: we can update master to whatever point in next you feel is ready for release, whenever you have time to test it.
[2010/08/10 14:11:42] <ReinH> nasrat: I'd like to get that release out this week. Does that seem reasonable?
[2010/08/10 14:11:48] <ch> hi!
[2010/08/10 14:12:00] <ch> what would not agreeing to http://puppetlabs.com/legal/cla.txt imply?
[2010/08/10 14:12:00] <ReinH> ch: hello
[2010/08/10 14:13:52] <ReinH> ch: PuppetLabs can't use any submitted code without a CLA.
[2010/08/10 14:14:07] <ReinH> s/submitted/contributed
[2010/08/10 14:14:20] <ch> Yeah, I figured that
[2010/08/10 14:14:56] <ch> the CLA basically implies that PLabs can do a closed-source sale of the code to other entities, right?
[2010/08/10 14:15:55] <ReinH> ch: it allows for relicensing, yes
[2010/08/10 14:17:49] <jamesturnbull> ch: the issue is protection for all parties - there is NO intent to a closed source sale of the code
[2010/08/10 14:19:28] <ReinH> right, it states that the contributor isn't liable for damages from the use of their code, etc
[2010/08/10 14:19:52] <jamesturnbull> ReinH: correct
[2010/08/10 14:21:45] <duritong> ch: and it would mean that someone has to rewrite the part you coded
[2010/08/10 14:21:53] <duritong> someone who agreed to the cla
[2010/08/10 14:21:58] <ch> Ya.
[2010/08/10 14:23:13] <ch> Well, if I'm going to sign this I have to figure out /if/ the company I no longer work for, also has to sign this
[2010/08/10 14:23:16] <ch> and this is quite shitty.
[2010/08/10 14:23:43] <jamesturnbull> ch: if you have concerns I am sure lak would be happy to talk to you about it - but his email - "Proposed changes to Puppet's IP management" covers it
[2010/08/10 14:23:53] <jamesturnbull> ah
[2010/08/10 14:24:03] <ch> jamesturnbull: do you have a google groups link for that?
[2010/08/10 14:24:13] <ch> because, yeah, I've also concerns on that side of the topic ;)
[2010/08/10 14:24:13] <jamesturnbull> ch: yeah hang on
[2010/08/10 14:24:51] <jamesturnbull> ch: http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-dev/browse_thread/thread/ae86291feecbe8b3/de41e2dc1bdb5494?lnk=gst&q=CLA#de41e2dc1bdb5494
[2010/08/10 14:25:39] <jamesturnbull> ch: but we're def. not evil - we're not seizing ownership - just enhanced rights to the code to allow us to use Puppet in some cool ways - there is no intent to close source it
[2010/08/10 14:26:20] <Volcane> jamesturnbull: so why not make that intent clear in the cla?
[2010/08/10 14:26:56] <ReinH> Volcane: IANAL, but it's difficult to write "intent" into a legal document
[2010/08/10 14:26:56] <jamesturnbull> Volcane: it's the standard Apache CLA pretty much
[2010/08/10 14:27:44] <jamesturnbull> Volcane: and what Rein said - we choose the simplest CLA that would allow us to progress
[2010/08/10 14:28:11] <Volcane> nods, well jsut saying, google is also not evil :P
[2010/08/10 14:28:28] <jamesturnbull> Volcane: it's also an established legal standard - whereas other things would require far more legal wiggly - lots of people have signed Apache CLAs - lots of established legal opinion there
[2010/08/10 14:29:00] <ch> the mail went out to all the email adresses in git commits?
[2010/08/10 14:29:41] <jamesturnbull> ch: yeah I parsed the git log and gave them to Jose
[2010/08/10 14:29:46] <jamesturnbull> ch: did you not get one?
[2010/08/10 14:29:58] <ch> jamesturnbull: I did get one, with two To:'s
[2010/08/10 14:30:03] <ch> and one of them is the company address
[2010/08/10 14:30:13] <ch> so I guess I have to ask them
[2010/08/10 14:30:21] <jamesturnbull> ch: ah - I thought I'd weeded out all the duplicates
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[2010/08/10 15:05:30] <ReinH> nasrat: ping
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[2010/08/10 15:32:16] <ReinH> nasrat: would please look at my note in #2865 when you have a moment?
[2010/08/10 15:32:16] <gepetto> ReinH: nasrat: #2865 is http://projects.puppetlabs.com/issues/show/2865 "Facter - Bug #2865: facter 1.5.7 changed the report of the virtual fact - Puppet Labs"
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[2010/08/10 22:07:37] <github> puppet: tickets/2.6.x/4509 James Turnbull * b808236 (2 files in 2 dirs): Removed legacy Trac code - http://bit.ly/cDsguS
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